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Marvel Shortcomings - The High n' Dry After Party Special · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: All right, everybody.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the high and giant after party.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: We got Turk with us.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, you're from this thing.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I pay are we getting paid for this?
• 0:28
  unknown: Oh snap!
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're back in.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm in there.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: So we welcome to the after party where we try and sober up a minute because James won't let us just leave.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: We might have some frittadas.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: Sherry might get us those some frittadas.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_03: I was thinking about tacos.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_03: I might get those at probably regardless.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, you go to the uh fucking uh Asada.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: Asada, right over there?
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: We're in North Las Vegas, everybody.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Asada.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: I can do that.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_03: Boo.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_03: Nah.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_03: They have dollars on Tuesdays, don't they?
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_03: Asada.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_03: You can pay full price for things sometimes.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_03: Nah, nah, nah.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because they're good.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: Not tackles.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: Not tails.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like that too.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: I never I never buy bagels at full price.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: When I go to the grocery store, if bagels aren't in like their discount section because they expire soon, I don't need bagels.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: But if they do have bagels in there, I can grab all of them.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so if you're listening to this, it means that you're really a fan.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: And it might be something wrong with you.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: But thank you.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: We just finished up an awesome episode with the first time we won't bleep his name, Trey.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: And we were talking about Bleep.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: Black Widow.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: And everything that that entails.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_03: I've never been here for the after-party ones.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_03: I usually get drunk and then disappear.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_03: But I will sober up.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_03: But yes.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_03: What do we talk about on the after party?
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: We sum up the show if we want, if there was a missed point, or we go to the book.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_03: I want to point out that the Black Widow that at her strongest used by Disney that we had to use is not really how Black Widow is.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_03: It is a Marvel Disney adaptation just to sell ticks.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_03: And that you should read the comics because the comics are way better than the movies they put out.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_03: Just FYI.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_03: But this new age doesn't like to read, but you should.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_03: Readings for losers.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_03: Don't read.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, don't read.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_03: Reading is fundamental.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, it's just so Black Widow won her fight.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, we're pretty upset about it.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: Kick this fucker off the podcast.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: Make him write a blog.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: You love reading so much, you're gonna be our blogger.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: You've got to write the newsletter.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying, if people read more, we wouldn't have the situation where Black Widow can be the fucking T-Rex.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: Think about it it's true.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: And well, I honestly, I think I so I was saying on the episode that Disney will just create this the enemy, whatever the fuck it is, and then our the Avengers will beat it.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: Without you know, realism in any sense of the word at all.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean they but they don't their plots are lazy.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: But they don't allow the character to be creative, to think through it.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: They don't allow characters.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they don't allow characters at all.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: There's no such thing as characters, there's monetizing brand identities.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and I think that's how Black Widow got done really, really dirty.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: She sure did.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and like every fucking movie shoe.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Scarlett Johansson just has like she has to be just so fucking tired of it.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: She comes on set, like, all right, we got another one of these pieces of shit.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: Who am I falling in love with?
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like how would you like me to position my buttocks?
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you just gotta be so fucking fed up with that.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_03: And and the thing is, because I watched the movie and it started off James Bond-esque, and I was like, oh man, like, okay, we're gonna try something different.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna do an actual spy movie first.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not just Black Widow, it's any other character that they want to establish on their own.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like Iron Man.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_03: Iron Man, one was great, two and three sucked.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, bad.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_03: They were it was bad.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's it's I don't want to just single out like it's just black widow, it's not, it's just that's the character we pick for what we did.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's just you can't beat a T-Rex Black Widow, but with how you are designed in this day and age, you can, and it just doesn't sit right with the colour.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_01: No, so she should so here's the thing.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the thing is she should totally be able to beat a T-Rex no problem because she has guns and like super technology and shit.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like she should no problem be able to beat a T-Rex.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: I almost feel like we were coming up with excuses to not have her beat a T-Rex.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Here's what I'm almost how I feel.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a personal failing of mine.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, well, I think that it's not because she wasn't fighting a T-Rex, she was fighting the T-Rex.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_00: The T-Rex.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: But but what my point is, is in talking about this writing, is that she maybe can't beat the T-Rex who's able to defeat, you know, engineered clones of itself, but she shouldn't be fighting it in the first place.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying is that you need to create stories that make sense for these characters instead of just crapping out what you think is gonna make the most in an algorithm.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: She's fought like all kinds of shit.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: She's fought all kinds of like big creatures and stuff.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: They put her up against all kinds of shit.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: So there is precedence, precedence of her being like big things.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what I don't think that they knew what they wanted to do with her the entire time.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: And she was just kind of there to fill whatever um archetypal role they didn't have in that movie.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: That was kind of her role was to be like the extra person that people recognize, and then her personality like changed between movies and shit.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have a static character for her.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry about that.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_03: I thought you were done as my bad.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: I I the problem is that they they feel like they have an audience they have to follow.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_03: And my thing is because her her spoilers, her sister in the movie, to me was more of a black widow than Black Widow was in her own movie.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_03: And it's because Marvel follows a storyline dynamic or plot dynamic or whatever, uh a sketchboard, whatever uh formula that from point A to point B has worked, and they just streamline it into whatever and feel like it worked.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_03: If they have followed what they were doing at the beginning, because like I said, it was James Bond-esque.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, oh, if she starts doing spy stuff for real for real in this movie, this could be a really great movie, like just not even Marvel movie, not superhero movie, not just a good movie.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel like they dropped the ball on that part, like they they didn't allow her, regardless of woman, male, whatever, her strongest abilities to show forth.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: It just became marvelous.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, it this should have been her skyfall.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and they totally they just went with what they've been doing.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, it worked.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, everyone lined up to see them.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't seen it, and I mean I'm talking like the we've we've been for the past 10 years, we've been lining up for this fucking formula.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: The movies don't change, yeah.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so they're like, well, let's keep on doing it.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: And and the thing that drives me crazy was the um that they they did her so dirty, um, just like she didn't have an action figure, she wasn't getting any of her own films until Wonder Woman came out, and then like, oh, we don't want to look like the people who hate women.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, then we've just making we've just been making our female fall in love with every dude who's the focus of whatever group movie they're in.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then they gave her her own.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: It was a pile of shit, it was just like every other one.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: The thing that drove me crazy was that they were so like off-kilter with how they treated their female characters that when it came to that big ensemble movie where they went the other way and did like girl power as they're all the women are taking over to fight that thing, and then they went the on the other side of it and it just came out so um just like insincere, so pandering.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: I love that scene from the boys where they were the where they were talking about girl power, and yeah, girls get it done.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: It was girls get it done, and and that was a complete talking about what I'm talking about.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was it was the complete criticism of exactly of what you're talking about, where it was it was it was recognized as clearly panderous and having no depth.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: Incredibly shallow, performative bullshit.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_03: Are you talking about the scene, the Avengers scene where they were doing the the problem with that one too, it wasn't it was that, but it was also the fact of they were pushing so they had Black Widow, the the the the lead female of the Avengers, yeah.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_03: But they were pushing Captain Marvel because that's what it was.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_03: It was it was Captain Marvel led that charge, yeah.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_03: But they did Captain Marvel wrong because her story was that's not her that wasn't her purpose in the comics at all.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: And they gave they gave they gave Captain Marvel a movie first before they gave Black Widow a movie, which to me is a problem in itself.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's that's straight that's because they needed to find a way to keep up with Wonder Woman.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: They themselves felt like they decided for themselves and for us that the Black Widow wasn't interesting enough or competitive enough in that in that market.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: They made her that way, and they and they did it to themselves, and instead of thinking creatively in any sense, they just they've done what they've done.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's just like Jesus.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: She was never a fucking spy.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and what's crazy is like you guys are so low on these characters that you had to fucking dig for uh Marvel when and like we don't most people don't even know like that.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: She was in it for like five seconds and then had her power stolen by rogue.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, she wasn't even a big character.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: She like you guys are so low on this side of it, and it's like ridiculous.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: It it trips me out because it's like, man, if you could because them doing what they did makes DC do what they do, and it's like not a butterfly effect, but chain reaction.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's a chain reaction because DZ feels like they have to follow the mantle Marvel has when it should be the opposite way, it should be the opposite way, but because it's like, oh well, that worked over there, and we have to follow it where it's like, man, people, if in this day and age, if you originality is something that isn't pushed like it should be, because the moment something original comes, it is copied to the point where it's it's no point in making something original.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_03: You just wait for someone who is original and then copy it.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and what's crazy about that is that they they don't even see that the exact opposite is the case.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you had so Warner Brothers comes in, fucking guts um everything that the uh Justice League movie was going to be.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then when years later, after begging and begging, they released the Snyder cut, it makes everything else that Warner Brothers did look like a sack of shit.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, or when they do the Joker movie and they're like, we're just doing a dark fucking taxi style Joker movie, and it's fucking huge.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like one of the best fucking movies you've seen in forever.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: Not a Disney, not Disney-esque, but they refuse to learn the lesson that the it's dumb to compete with Disney.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Stop doing that.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Stop doing it.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: What but they but they look at the money and they're just their lizard brain turns on, they're like, I want the money.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: I want the money, I'll do anything for the fucking money.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: Give me the money, show me the money.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: These executives, like, they're just fucking they literally cannot pay attention to anything else.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: They're just like, I want the fucking money.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: And and they're totally blinded to any kind of sense.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like you have a market that and your movies make a large amount of money, and people like them.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you be yourself and do something, like, look, a kid can't go to Joker.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: It is what it is.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, but like when you make but when you make something for everyone, it turns into a pandering piece of garbage.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you you rip all art out of it, and I think that's what our especially, I mean, as far as uh America is concerned, um, I wouldn't I won't I won't definitely won't say Western culture because America is not the West.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, we'd like to use that as an encompassing term, and it only means the United States.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we have given away everything um that we used to do as far as industry, and we've centered it strictly on entertainment in markets that are supposed to be artistic.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: And it's directly opposed and competing with our capitalistic mindset.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so we have these we have that one scene where Cap Miss Marvel leads the charge.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't feel like in her her never mind.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: I just wish they'd I wish pe I wish they'd give a shit about the writing.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: I wish they'd care about like creating characters and and giving them reasons to be in situations and I don't know.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: Like basic story stuff.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_03: My I just thinking back on that scene now, because now y'all got me thinking of that movie.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't wasn't Spider-Man the one with the gauntlet at the end?
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to mean broke his whole body.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like, because I know Tony got it, but they did the whole scene, you know, passing it from woman to woman and all that.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't like Spider-Man get it and go through stuff?
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't remember.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_03: I don't care.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_03: But even then, I was just asking if I can't remember.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: But I it's it's it's it's sad because it's like there's so many different elements that you could go into and not get it, it's a movie, but you can't do everything, and there's so much stuff in the comics, and blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_03: But and I wouldn't be so um critiquing on Marvel if you know what, if they just say, hey, this is what it is, this is what we're gonna do, we're gonna make it cartoony, we're gonna make it blah blah blah, whatever.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: But it's that others follow that formula, and like I like DC, like, and DC follows Marvel's formula to you know detriment to themselves.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I haven't seen the new Suicide Squad that has just come out yesterday.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm watching.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: I was thinking we were gonna watch it too, but actually Cheryl wants hang out things.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so uh I I would say that uh fuck, you lie you you're talking about Suicide Squad.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: I look I was gonna watch that tonight, it's gonna be pretty good, maybe.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but fuck, what was my point?
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck! Damn you.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Trey.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I'm tired of complaining about Marble.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: You're right, yeah.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_03: It is what it is.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but you know, um, it does make well our episode does make me want to see a T-Rex T-Rexing part movie.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: I fucking love the first.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: Here it was.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: So the so I used to be a huge Spider-Man fan.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I think uh in this new because like look, comics were never for everyone.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, even when they were making money, it was the nerd population that would roll in there.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't for everyone.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but in this new era where they're trying to make it for everyone, what we've done is so you have comics where, like, yeah, this person could spin webs, but the the central idea and the things that we explore are him as a person.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: How he interacts at school, you know, he made you relate to him as you you yourself are trying to get through school, and or when Peter Parker got older and he's going to college or Peter Parker got older and he's trying to find a fucking job.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what you related to.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then you got to fantasize and do escapism when he starts swinging around everywhere.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Now it's strictly, hey, look at that kid swing around.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: You should relate to him because you're the same age.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: Then that's what it's become.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we don't really have ownership of media or anything.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: We feel a sense of like personal connection, but like they can do whatever they want.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't give a shit.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: I just have to, I just have to find other things to enjoy, which is fine.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm finding other things to enjoy, which is nice.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like the Dune saga.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm so excited.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: So excited.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: I've really enjoyed learning about melange.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: There's so there's a I never got the reference until I fucking read Dune.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: There's a South Park where um one of the mothers has a fecal transplant, and they then the boys learn that there's an underground movement of people trying to steal Tom Brady's shit so they can do a fecal transplant with him, and it's supposed to make them healthy.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: And every time they so and the kids are trying to visit Tom Brady for whatever reason, I don't fucking remember anymore.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: But there's this group of people who are trying to get Tom Brady's shit, and they call it the spice melange.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so when the kids are getting ready to make it into Brady's mansion, there's all these underground people like, can they be the ones to finally get the spice?
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I never got the fucking reference.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's pretty crazy.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I'm gonna need to catch it.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't seen nothing dune.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know Dune.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: I've only listened to a podcast.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_03: I know I know nothing Dune.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_03: I don't haven't seen the story, I haven't read a book, I haven't watched a movie, I know a new one's coming out.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um who's in the new one?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: So the new one has uh Jason Momoa, so Aquaman showing up.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um is he?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: He is uh gonna be uh uh Idaho.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh okay.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Josh Brolin is gonna be Gurney Halleck.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: And that was oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh what's what's her name?
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Jessica is played by it was Rose the Hat in Doctor Sleep.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love her.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's because I've been drinking that I can't fucking remember her name.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um we're gonna pull it up right now.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'll just say Jason Momoa shirtless in anything.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: I will be there.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: He exudes so much raw power.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: Aquaman was a real disappointment, though.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: That one tried to be pretty marvely.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but it was it was, but it was better to me than what they had been putting out DC-wise.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: So that's why I gave it a pass.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was like I liked Man of Steel a lot.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but that was that but that was um Man of Steel came out before the whole Marvel storm, didn't it?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, so Man of Steel came, that was when they were still trying to be unique in themselves, and that that's why the story that was the Iron Man One of DC.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: Right, that's what I was gonna say.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: It was like before Marvel took over, yeah.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: But uh Rebecca Ferguson is going to be Jessica.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's not who I thought.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um she was Rose the Hat in uh Doctor Sleep.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I remember now.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't expect her to be Jessica.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think she'll I think she'll make it good.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: I thought we were talking about the younger woman.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: I thought the younger woman from Doctor Sleep, the uh the dangerous one, the one who was the bad Yeah, the bad lady, yeah, that's her.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: She's the older bad lady, the young girl who like came into her powers in the in Doctor Sleep.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: The good the good girl?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: No, she was bad.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: She got shot in the head, yeah.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, her.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, no, not her.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought you meant her because I thought she would have been a good Jessica.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, no.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh well Jessica was a little older, it's a mother.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: But they're but they don't age.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: So she, I mean, she was a little older than Paul, but they she looked like young still.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so Turk, thoughts on Doom or movie show, whatever I have not seen yet.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but if I go off Tremors, which I have seen.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: If I know Tremors, if I know Tremors, then it will be a great movie.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: You're probably not even gonna see a fucking worm in this book.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's only like it's like a half of the first book.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, check the the trailer for Doom is out now, the new trailer's out, and there's worms.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: Huge fucking worms.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: But if you've seen tremors, you you pretty much know what you're going into.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_03: So uh look, Jason Momoa's shirtless and put him in tremors, and then you have Doom.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm watching.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Was Ivanhoe ever shirtless?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: All the time.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: All the time.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: All the time.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: I knew he was.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: That's why he picked him up.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Some kid, I don't know.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Timothy Chalamet comes back.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's a sting.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's a sting.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so this has been the after party.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Trey, thanks for joining us.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm always glad to be here.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: Sobered up.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I'm probably gonna take a shot before I leave, but you know, it is what it is.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you guys take it easy.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for listening.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Bye.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Bye.