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1. You’re Not Alone: Why We’re Finally Having the Conversations That Matter · Anchored At Home

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  Speaker 1: The conversations that impact our lives are rooted in vulnerability, truth,
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  Speaker 1: and grace.
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  Speaker 2: Each week, we'll have real conversations about.
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  Speaker 1: Life and all the beautiful, messy moments in between. We
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  Speaker 1: hope this is a place where.
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  Speaker 2: You can exhale, feel seen, know you're not alone, and
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  Speaker 2: leave encouraged, challenged, and equipped. We're Josh and Liz, and
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  Speaker 2: welcome to Anchored at Home.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, welcome to Anchored at Home. I'm Liz.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Josh.
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  Speaker 1: And we are the Knowleses. We are.
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  Speaker 2: So this is exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're actually here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, starting a podcast. And never thought this would be
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  Speaker 2: ever anything that we would be doing. No, never. Not
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  Speaker 2: people that ever wanted a mic.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Here we are with a giant mic in front of us.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to share with them what you thought
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  Speaker 1: about your mic at first?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely. I feel like LL Cool J. If you're old
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  Speaker 2: head like me, you remember the, I'm going to knock
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  Speaker 2: you out. Anyway. So I feel like maybe I should
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  Speaker 2: drop some bars after this. Something separate.
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  Speaker 1: It'll probably come into it for sure.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So Anchored at Home podcast. Just want to kind of
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  Speaker 2: have a real raw conversation. Like you said, everything that
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  Speaker 2: we are going to talk about is just off the cuff,
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  Speaker 2: who we are, what's on our heart. So I guess
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  Speaker 2: we should start by who we are again. Josh. Liz. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and we're in the dozes. We met in Virginia. I'm
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  Speaker 2: born and raised in Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: I was there getting my master's. We were both coaching.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: For the same club team. I coached the U14 girls.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I had been coaching for this club. I'm,
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  Speaker 2: you know, living in that area, knew a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: And we all coached at the same facility. So when
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful, smoking, hot blonde comes in, you're like, who's
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  Speaker 2: that girl? I would like to get to know her.
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  Speaker 2: So I did introduce myself at the coach's clinic. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: I was demoing. And I honestly think that probably is
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  Speaker 2: where it, spark started to fly for you i could
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  Speaker 2: be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Right yeah not so much your soccer ability that was it.
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  Speaker 2: Right definitely no just shaved legs yeah maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah first guy ever met with shaved legs yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah who knew we'd be sharing razors down the line
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  Speaker 2: anyway um so yeah that's kind of how we met
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  Speaker 2: and we started our family uh in in virginia we
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  Speaker 2: have two boys august and braxton um And then from there,
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  Speaker 2: we went on an adventure. We both believe that life
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  Speaker 2: is an adventure. And as long as we have us four,
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  Speaker 2: we know no matter where we go, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be okay. We're going to be strong. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: be secure. We're going to make new friends.
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  Speaker 1: God's always brought the right people into our lives in
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  Speaker 1: each season.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. So yeah, Virginia, we lived outside of Manhattan for
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  Speaker 2: six and a half years. And then COVID hit and
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  Speaker 2: we were like, let's get out of here. Went to
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  Speaker 2: Florida for almost two and a half years. Then Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Which is so hot in Texas. And if you live there,
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  Speaker 2: we love it. We did. We met some incredible people,
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  Speaker 2: obviously everywhere we went, but even in Texas, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: just some incredible, awesome people, um, that are dear to
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  Speaker 2: our heart that still live there. And maybe they'll have
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  Speaker 2: a come to Jesus moment and move back to Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Um, but yeah, we missed the beach
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  Speaker 2: and always lived, uh, close, you know, close to the ocean.
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  Speaker 2: So not having that nearby felt like a piece of
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  Speaker 2: my soul was missing. Um, that was the only place
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  Speaker 2: that we've, we've lived where there wasn't a, uh, free
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  Speaker 2: nervous system reset. And I feel like, especially for our kids. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is at peace. I mean, closer to God's creation,
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  Speaker 1: even though there are ranches in Texas and there are
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  Speaker 1: mountains and other places, but the water is where we belong.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I feel like, yeah, we're meant to connect
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  Speaker 2: to God's creation. That's how we connect better.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's nervous system.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a reset for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Regulated.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Amazing. Okay, so we came from there, Texas. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everybody think, well, when we meet them, are you military?
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  Speaker 1: We're like, no, we just have moved six states in
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  Speaker 1: a short period of time.
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  Speaker 2: I've had some military haircuts since moving back to Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God I found a good barber. It was a struggle.
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  Speaker 1: It was. You did look like you just came out
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  Speaker 1: of the Marines.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A few haircuts.
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  Speaker 2: Which is amazing. I wish I could be as amazing
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  Speaker 2: as an Marine, but I'm not that guy, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So moving on. Um, yeah, that's who we are. We
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  Speaker 1: reside in sunny Florida now. Um, and this has been
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  Speaker 1: something on our hearts for a few years, but we've
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  Speaker 1: definitely pushed it away, run away, ran away, ran away,
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  Speaker 1: brought some other people into it and help them do
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  Speaker 1: their great podcasts and their stuff. But every time we
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  Speaker 1: walked away, um, or just like put it down even, um,
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  Speaker 1: And the Lord brought it back to us in ways
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  Speaker 1: that only He can through amazing people. And I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get emotional on the first time, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: where I'm so grateful just for this opportunity. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's just where we've been at. And it's just,
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  Speaker 1: we believe that it's about our obedience and our yes.
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  Speaker 1: And this is our yes, even though it feels terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the last thing.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be doing.
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  Speaker 1: And it's super uncomfortable, but it's also not about me
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  Speaker 1: and it's not about you. And really God's shown us
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  Speaker 1: that over the last few years, like to put down
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  Speaker 1: the whole dying to our flesh and put down our
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  Speaker 1: own pride. And this is for other people. And so
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  Speaker 1: it's just, yeah, really grateful that we even have this
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to speak to you guys, to get to be
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  Speaker 1: here to sit and hang out together. This was not
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  Speaker 1: what this looked like, our marriage or our lives years ago. So,
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  Speaker 1: and again, we know like everyone doesn't believe what we
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  Speaker 1: believe and that's totally okay. I think we both know
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  Speaker 1: that whatever you do believe, the same as we do
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  Speaker 1: or not, you're going to gain something and can gain
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  Speaker 1: something from these conversations. We, our prayers that like God
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  Speaker 1: would speak to us through us and it just lands
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  Speaker 1: on hearts. And if we can help one person or
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  Speaker 1: one family, um, we're doing what we've been asked to do.
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  Speaker 1: So we're just really grateful.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I want to, I want to touch on the
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  Speaker 2: obedient part too, because I think we've, well, especially me
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  Speaker 2: because I'm way older than you, but we've lived long
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  Speaker 2: enough to have these moments in our life where we've
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  Speaker 2: been obedient and, um, It's so cool to see what
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  Speaker 2: God does on the back end of that obedience. He always,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you take a step of faith, you be
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  Speaker 2: obedient and without fail, when we take this step, God's
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  Speaker 2: always like, no, let me show you. I got you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I call them the, I got you moments. And there's
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  Speaker 2: probably some other great wording for it, but that's my, that's.
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  Speaker 1: What I call it. Yeah. So it's an example of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Really cool.
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  Speaker 1: So what's an example of that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, when, I mean, an example in our life of when,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many. Where would you like me
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  Speaker 2: to start?
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  Speaker 1: Which one? Pick one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So I'll say when we moved to up north
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  Speaker 2: outside of Manhattan, technically we were in Jersey. I always
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  Speaker 2: start it with outside of Manhattan because it sounds cooler.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why. Shout out to all my Jersey people.
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  Speaker 2: I love Jersey. My mom's from Jersey. Spent a lot
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  Speaker 2: of time there. So, but, you know, when we decided
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  Speaker 2: to move there, like we felt like, we were called
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  Speaker 2: to that area to be part of church and, and
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  Speaker 2: raise our family up there and be closer to your family. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and just, you know, like I said, life is an adventure,
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  Speaker 2: so let's go for it. Um, however, normally when you
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  Speaker 2: line those things up, you haven't, most people would move
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  Speaker 2: for a job or have something, you know, lined up. Um,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't, we had nothing lined up at the time
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  Speaker 2: I was selling it and working for a really incredible company.
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  Speaker 2: And I'd had some, some good years, uh, two and
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  Speaker 2: a half good years prior to that. And at the moment, um,
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  Speaker 2: there was no sales reps that worked remotely. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: really a thing back then. Everyone was in the office. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I said that, you know, that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you had a job opportunity up there and I, you know,
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  Speaker 2: wanted to, um, cause it's tough. You can't really go
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  Speaker 2: into the, your boss's office and be like, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like God's calling me to this area.
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, who?
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Um, but, uh, so, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and the truth was you did have an opportunity. So,
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  Speaker 2: and I wanted to support you, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: like I wanted to have a job and, um, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so I asked him if I could work remotely and
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  Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll support
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  Speaker 2: you and we'll give it a go. And it was sales.
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  Speaker 2: So it was really easy to be like, is he
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  Speaker 2: doing his job? Look at the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: If he's not, then it shows pretty pretty simply. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so we, he, they allowed us to move up there
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  Speaker 2: and for me to work remotely. And, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: intention was, all right, let's get up there, give a base, but,
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  Speaker 2: you know, see what happens from there. And then I
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  Speaker 2: continued to be successful in that. But when we got
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  Speaker 2: up there and the company, put our house on the market,
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  Speaker 2: put our house in the market, it sold, ridiculously quick. And, um, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like, they were, they matched my cost
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  Speaker 2: of living up there. They gave me raises and like,
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  Speaker 2: it was literally just like one thing after another where
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  Speaker 2: God was just like, I got you, let me show you.
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  Speaker 2: I got you opening up doors for you in the city.
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  Speaker 1: Um, and let me just add, not to interrupt you.
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  Speaker 1: It was not easy. So like, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: make that, we don't even need to go down this
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  Speaker 1: whole road, but like, I just want to prep like
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  Speaker 1: all those things are awesome. And that I got you
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  Speaker 1: moments were real and all like, it was like a
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  Speaker 1: waterfall of them, but it was more right. That act
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  Speaker 1: of obedience. And then those things came, but it was,
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  Speaker 1: there were lots of difficult things along that road. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to steer anyone wrong of that. One
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  Speaker 1: thing happens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Hard, especially with the decisions and like hard things.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's cool that God always when it's God.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's easy. If that makes sense. It's smooth.
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  Speaker 1: There's an ease.
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  Speaker 2: Ease to it. There's a, there's a peace in, it
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  Speaker 2: could be chaos, but there's peace.
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  Speaker 1: In the chaos. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Great. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Um, okay. So let's talk about why we started this
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  Speaker 1: like podcast podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I think, um, again, through our live lives, life
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  Speaker 2: in our marriage and our journey, we'll call it cause
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  Speaker 2: I believe everyone's on a journey. Um, there was times
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  Speaker 2: where we would kind of just like sit back and
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  Speaker 2: reflect on our relationships and conversations that we've had. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and the people that have been with us, um, and
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  Speaker 2: just like so fortunate that we had the people that
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  Speaker 2: we had with us standing with us, whether it's another couple,
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  Speaker 2: whether it was a professional therapist, um, a church group
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, friends, um, that looking back on it and
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  Speaker 2: reflecting was like, we would not be where we are
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  Speaker 2: now today. No. Right. Let alone, let alone five years ago,
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  Speaker 2: let alone 10 years ago where we were in this
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  Speaker 2: journey without the people that came alongside of us.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: So that being said, we had so many real raw, um,
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  Speaker 2: conversations that literally would start at a kitchen table with
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  Speaker 2: our friends, at a barbecue, sitting around the fire pit,
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  Speaker 2: on the porch, that were just unfiltered, uncut, raw, vulnerable
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  Speaker 2: conversations that we realize that we're not alone. Right. Whether
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  Speaker 2: we would confess something or something that we were struggling.
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  Speaker 1: With or Someone else would share something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And there were so many like me too moments. Right.
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  Speaker 2: That was like, why aren't these conversations easy to be
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  Speaker 2: talked about? Right. So our goal, and please interrupt me
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  Speaker 2: at any moment. Um, our goal with this, with this
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  Speaker 2: podcast is to have those real raw conversations that people
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  Speaker 2: aren't having with each other, with our friends, with other, um, marriages,
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  Speaker 2: other couples, professionals that we've worked with and had the
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  Speaker 2: pleasure of working with because that people simply can't afford
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  Speaker 2: to work with. And we've been blessed to be able
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  Speaker 2: to do that. But like, we just feel like these
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  Speaker 2: conversations are needed and the topics are needed.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And I think it's, we've talked about this a
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  Speaker 1: lot of, okay, is it, are we being called to
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  Speaker 1: like go first? And obviously there's so many firsts. Like
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  Speaker 1: I don't, we don't mean like We're not special because
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  Speaker 1: we're first like doing this by any means. I think it's,
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  Speaker 1: we just know that if we can make a way
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  Speaker 1: and create a safe space for others to see that like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay to talk about the thing that like you
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  Speaker 1: may have had hidden for years or talk about the
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  Speaker 1: fear or to talk about the grief or the loss
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it might be that like has been kind
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  Speaker 1: of just like keeping someone holding someone back or whether
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  Speaker 1: that's in yourself or your relationship and friendships, because it
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  Speaker 1: does affect all of our relationships. But we've all been
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  Speaker 1: in those conversations with people where someone shares something, it's
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  Speaker 1: like everyone's holding their breath. And someone says, when you
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  Speaker 1: watch the person share what it is, it's like... like
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  Speaker 1: this giant exhale happens and you just watch, like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I can say you watch someone's nervous system. I just,
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  Speaker 1: you see the freedom in someone and it's just, it
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  Speaker 1: brings us so much joy and getting to work with
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  Speaker 1: couples aside from even the friends and like the relationships
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  Speaker 1: we have, like you were talking about, to have those
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  Speaker 1: like aha moments of just like, oh, you're struggling with that. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not alone. And that's like, we live in a
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  Speaker 1: world right now that we are the most lonely, yet
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  Speaker 1: the most connected, but disconnected, right? Like, yeah, connected. And
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  Speaker 1: so the amount of times and conversations and people that
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  Speaker 1: even the people you think, and this is the biggest
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  Speaker 1: myth that we see all the time and with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of couples we work with is, like, Oh, look
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  Speaker 1: at their life.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And like, it looks great. Like, look at their marriage,
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  Speaker 1: look at their family, look at their.
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  Speaker 2: Vacation version of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's all the highlight reels. Right. And so this is
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  Speaker 1: kind of like to allow you into, and like, we're
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  Speaker 1: not perfect. We don't have it all figured out. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, but to remind people that, that
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  Speaker 1: whatever you're seeing, right. The highlight reel, like we talk
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  Speaker 1: about this a lot and, you might have seen the
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  Speaker 1: anniversary post, right? That's this like beautiful dinner, who knows
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  Speaker 1: what it looks like, right? It's probably very curated, but
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  Speaker 1: like you didn't see the argument on the way to
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  Speaker 1: that dinner. Like there wasn't a reel of the 11 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: after that dinner that like is discussing how they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: even believe they got to that anniversary, right? Or whatever
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  Speaker 1: that might look like, you're not seeing the behind the
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  Speaker 1: scenes of any of these couples, families, relationships. And so
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  Speaker 1: the goal again is to like, To help people feel
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  Speaker 1: connected in a way through our conversations and with the
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  Speaker 1: people that we're bringing on and talking to, to then
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  Speaker 1: find connection like within your own home first, right? Like
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  Speaker 1: obviously for us, it's finding that connection with Jesus first
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  Speaker 1: and then connecting with your spouse and your family. And
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  Speaker 1: then it goes out from there. Like the ripple effect happens.
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  Speaker 1: So then maybe you'll find courage from us sharing something
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  Speaker 1: or hearing something on this. From someone and going, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, it's time for me to share this with
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  Speaker 1: someone that I'm close with. And that's our prayer behind
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  Speaker 1: it is to just have people feel, again, like, I
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  Speaker 1: know you're not in this room with us, but like,
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  Speaker 1: we feel like you're all sitting here.
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  Speaker 2: It's a safe space. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And like, it's a safe space to just be yourself.
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  Speaker 1: when so many other avenues in life are, are demand
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  Speaker 1: your demand, even we all play roles. So like the
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  Speaker 1: rules of motherhood, the roles of fatherhood of a businessman of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so many different avenues that you're, there is not,
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  Speaker 1: you don't, you can just come like and listen and
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  Speaker 1: really exhale and just like be yourself and show up
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  Speaker 1: and have this be a safe space for you to
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  Speaker 1: be able, who knows, to process something that you heard
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  Speaker 1: of and, um, And we just know God's going to
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  Speaker 1: use it however he sees fit.
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  Speaker 2: And I really, you know, believe that I said this earlier,
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  Speaker 2: like if we can help one person, then great. That's okay.
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  Speaker 2: And we've been obedient and we've helped that one person.
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  Speaker 1: We're not looking for.
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  Speaker 2: No, we're not. And I think that, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: we talk about like, we wouldn't have been where we
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  Speaker 2: are today.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Our marriage wouldn't have gotten through things without people. I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, through, through the, through our journey, we've realized
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  Speaker 2: that marriage is hard. Being a parent is hard. Being
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  Speaker 2: a successful businessman, businesswoman is hard. Connecting with your kids
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  Speaker 2: is hard. Life is hard. If not, you're probably doing
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  Speaker 2: it wrong. Well, call us and let us know what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing. Yeah, because I would love to know the secrets.
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  Speaker 2: But I think you hear all the time of, it
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  Speaker 2: takes a village. Right. We talk about this. It takes
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  Speaker 2: the village to raise a kid. And 1000%, it takes villages,
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  Speaker 2: I think, to raise a kid. But I think it
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  Speaker 2: also takes a village to have a healthy marriage. I
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  Speaker 2: think it also takes a village to be a great dad.
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  Speaker 2: It takes a village to be a great mom. It
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  Speaker 2: takes a village to be the best version of yourself.
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  Speaker 2: And what we're trying to create in these podcasts is
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  Speaker 2: we want to be part of your village. We want
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  Speaker 2: to bring people in that can help Be part of
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  Speaker 2: the village to help you and have real like unfiltered, uncut, vulnerable,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: raw conversations. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe one of the conversations is something you're actually
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  Speaker 1: going through at that time and you can find. And again,
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  Speaker 1: like Josh had mentioned, you know, support. if it's not free,
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  Speaker 1: costs a lot of money now. Right. And so like
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  Speaker 1: our goal also is to bring people on that. Like
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  Speaker 1: he said, we're so blessed that we've gotten to work
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  Speaker 1: with from so many different working professionals that we wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be where we are today without as well. And so
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  Speaker 1: to be able to have like invite them into this
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  Speaker 1: space and, um, and even just like talk, we've reached
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  Speaker 1: out to some of them. They're so excited and grateful,
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  Speaker 1: like to be able to share with you guys, like
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  Speaker 1: things that maybe some people wouldn't be able to, or
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: have wouldn't not just not be able to afford to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: find the right person. Right. So we love connecting people
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  Speaker 1: to whatever that looks like. We always say to people,
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  Speaker 1: couples we work with, that's why we do a consultation, um,
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  Speaker 1: a free like 30 minute call is if it's not us,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to find you the people. We just sent
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  Speaker 1: people recently to three different people whom we love and adore.
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  Speaker 1: And we're like, we don't work in these areas and we,
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  Speaker 1: we don't feel, and we take time, we pray about it.
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  Speaker 1: And like, if we can't, God's not bringing, um, he
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: brings people to us, but also to go through us.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's not to bring them to us and be.
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  Speaker 1: Like, okay, no. And so that's like our hope and
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  Speaker 1: prayer is that, um, you would find like a part
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  Speaker 1: of home here, you know, but also to be able
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  Speaker 1: to share different episodes with a friend that you know
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  Speaker 1: is going through something that maybe was shared or talked about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and that it would bring like unite us
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  Speaker 1: all together in a way that there's so much like
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  Speaker 1: it's comparison and competition and who, you know, has the
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  Speaker 1: last word and who does this not. And like, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: let's just get rid of all of that. because none
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of it matters here. Like we wanted the most, the
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  Speaker 1: simplest stage. This isn't even a stage. We wanted the
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  Speaker 1: simplest room. We want to be wearing the simplest things.
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  Speaker 1: Like we want nothing more than like to point people
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  Speaker 1: to hope, um, which that is Jesus. And then to
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: point people to whatever and whomever, you know, um, they
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: can find that from like healing and connection, but really
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it's connection, you know, cause we all have it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: in our, like in our neighborhoods, in our towns. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it's just, are we, do we know how to make
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  Speaker 1: those connections?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's our hope for this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I spot on. I think there's just, there's
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  Speaker 2: such power, like being part of, you know, group therapy
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  Speaker 2: or men's group where, or just friends groups where like
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  Speaker 2: real conversations are had, especially like, I'll just like example
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  Speaker 2: of men's groups that I've been, part of where it's,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: so it's like not in our DNA to like be
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: vulnerable or surrender or show our true colors. Like this,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: it is what this is, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Especially as an athlete.
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  Speaker 2: 100%. Like you can't show your weaknesses. Like, oh, if
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I know what's the karate kid where he's got the
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: bum leg, sweep the leg, sweep the leg, Johnny. Well,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: he's sweeping his leg because he sees the weakness. Well,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: that's not our goal. Like our goal is like, let's be.
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  Speaker 1: Crowdy kid. I know we're going to go there at
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  Speaker 1: some point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But all to say that is like, yeah, when you,
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  Speaker 2: when you have those conversations, like I've been part of
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  Speaker 2: so many groups where men or women are talking or
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: couples are talking and they bring up something that I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even know. Oh man, me too. And I even
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: thought about it, but there are, there's so many me too,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: moments and it's just the reminder of like we're not
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: alone and you know the the struggles the addictions the
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the fights the wins the challenges like we're.
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  Speaker 1: Not alone yeah it's not we're in.
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  Speaker 2: This together and yeah we hope we can just be
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  Speaker 2: part of your.
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  Speaker 1: Village hey guys thank you so much for being here
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  Speaker 1: and just it means so much to us that you
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  Speaker 1: take the time to um just check in whether you're
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  Speaker 1: in your car whether you're going for a run um
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  Speaker 1: whatever it is, we're just grateful that you're here. And
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  Speaker 1: we hope that you have gained something from this, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's hope, whether it's something practical we said, but we're
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