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3 Things We Learned From Ohio State's Collapse In Texas · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, September 13th. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Tom, or the.
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  Speaker 2: Kent State game in six days. The game against Michigan
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  Speaker 2: in 76 days.
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  Speaker 1: at Darryl K. Royal Texas Memorial Stadium, where the Buckeyes just,
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  Speaker 1: they did a thing.
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  Speaker 2: They had a 20-3 lead. And ended up losing it 24-23.
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  Speaker 1: It was a remarkable night here in Austin, Texas. And
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  Speaker 1: there were a lot of very, very, very, very happy
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  Speaker 1: Longhorn fans.
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  Speaker 2: Not so happy Ohio State fans.
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  Speaker 1: And Ryan Day, Juck, said you could kind of blame
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  Speaker 1: the offense, the defense, and the special teams all in
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  Speaker 1: sort of different parts there. It was a real team
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  Speaker 1: effort to make that not be a win tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Offense.
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  Speaker 1: What stood out to you? Where did the game sort
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  Speaker 1: of slip away with the offense?
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  Speaker 3: So Tony and I were watching from this beautiful new
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  Speaker 3: press box up there in the corner. Great view. And
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  Speaker 3: Julian Sane misses a wide open Devin McEwen, a ball
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  Speaker 3: that you or I could have thrown complete to Devin McEwen,
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  Speaker 3: which would have been a touchdown. And we looked at
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  Speaker 3: each other like, wow, that's a pass he doesn't ever miss.
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  Speaker 3: In the very next ball, an incredibly uncharacteristic ball that
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  Speaker 3: almost got picked off by two separate Texas players. And
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  Speaker 3: it was almost like that kind of might've shook him
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  Speaker 3: missing that touchdown ball. And from there on out is
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  Speaker 3: when we saw like the six straight incompletions, which is
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  Speaker 3: incredibly odd for Julian saying, and I feel like the
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  Speaker 3: moment got to him. And it's the first time I
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  Speaker 3: think we've ever really seen that from him where the
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  Speaker 3: moment just really got to him after the way that
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  Speaker 3: he had played that first half. which was so good.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming. His final stat line at
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  Speaker 3: 17 to 32, 17 to 32, incredibly odd for the
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  Speaker 3: most accurate quarterback in the country. And it wasn't because
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  Speaker 3: guys weren't open. It was just a really uncharacteristic performance
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  Speaker 3: from him that really, you know, in compounding that, you
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  Speaker 3: kind of threw quite a bit in the end there
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  Speaker 3: and you were getting off the field very quickly. as
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  Speaker 3: the defense was giving away some long drives that was
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  Speaker 3: wearing them down. And it was just a confluence of
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  Speaker 3: things that, you know, everything's kind of got to go
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  Speaker 3: right for a team like Texas to come back in
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  Speaker 3: a situation like that. And it all did in the
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  Speaker 3: Buckeyes helped them out in some ways for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It, you cannot just to do that with through sheer
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  Speaker 1: force of will, you have to have the opponent have
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  Speaker 1: some stuff go wrong. And, Texas in the first half
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  Speaker 1: had a bunch of stuff go wrong. You know, Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State building a 23 lead. You can't do that all
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  Speaker 1: by your lonesome against a team this good in a
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  Speaker 1: stadium this loud and big. And they certainly got some
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  Speaker 1: help with a couple bounces. They had a fumble that
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  Speaker 1: they recovered. Jay Timmons made a heck of a play
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  Speaker 1: on a fumble to set Ohio State up with an
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  Speaker 1: early field goal.
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  Speaker 2: They had a.
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  Speaker 1: Weird interception where it looked like it was going to
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  Speaker 1: be a long reception for Texas, and it turned into
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  Speaker 1: an interception for Ohio State. But then in the second half,
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  Speaker 1: it kind of went the other direction. And Ohio State's
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  Speaker 1: defense statistically was dominant for three quarters. And then if
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  Speaker 1: you look at the stat sheet, it's just like, well,
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  Speaker 1: they just fell apart. And it's like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the truth sort of lies a little bit in between
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  Speaker 1: where they probably weren't quite as dominant for the first
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  Speaker 1: three quarters as they looked on the stat sheet. But also,
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  Speaker 1: they probably were, you know, there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: stuff that went into the fourth quarter other than just,
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  Speaker 1: that's a bad defense.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I don't think that was my takeaway either.
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  Speaker 3: And there was one more that the Buckeyes D got
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  Speaker 3: away with that we foretold in the pregame show that
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Wingo is good to drop one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A touchdown went right through his hands and a perfectly
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  Speaker 3: thrown ball from Arch Manning that Wingo got some separation,
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  Speaker 3: got himself open, and the Buckeyes got away with that one.
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  Speaker 3: And then in the second half, we do see some
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  Speaker 3: of those breaks come back to Texas where It looked
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  Speaker 3: like Ohio State could have recovered two separate fumbles and
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  Speaker 3: didn't end up getting Texas got them back. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the Buckeyes' defense was nearly as dominant.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that they really were stagnant up front. I
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  Speaker 3: think that the only one that consistently really looked like
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  Speaker 3: he was going to get any pass rush was going
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  Speaker 3: to be Kari Wilder, and we only saw him a
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  Speaker 3: couple of plays in the game, which after last week,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, you know, he probably earned a few more
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  Speaker 3: snaps or a few more packages like Ryan Day talked about,
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  Speaker 3: and he was effective. when they put him in. But
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  Speaker 3: other than him in Kenyatta on the one sack that
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  Speaker 3: he had, I didn't really see the defensive line getting
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  Speaker 3: much push at all, which certainly didn't help the linebackers,
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  Speaker 3: stress them a bit. And all the tackles seemed to
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  Speaker 3: come from the secondary. You had Earl Little with 11,
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  Speaker 3: Devin Sanchez with like eight. You need some more out
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  Speaker 3: of your front seven or you're not going to win
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 1: And then the third element of the third aspect of
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  Speaker 1: the game is special teams, third phase of the game,
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  Speaker 1: special teams. And They leaned probably too much on special teams,
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  Speaker 1: kicked a bunch of field goals, passed up a field
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  Speaker 1: goal at one point in the red zone to go
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 2: On fourth down.
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  Speaker 1: But I think when you look at this, Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: fans are going to, you know, the punting, there was
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  Speaker 1: a punt that was not a great punt and a
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  Speaker 1: crucial moment that was set up by the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you're punting from the plus 39.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a weird spot to, you know, you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to cough and corner a kick, and sometimes you just
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  Speaker 2: don't hit it right.
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  Speaker 1: And then the field goal that was missed at the
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  Speaker 1: end by– Connor Hawkins hit his first three, looked absolutely automatic,
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  Speaker 1: and then just hit a clunker and missed a 45-yarder.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's one more pressure moment kick in an
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State kicker missing in the pressure moment on a
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  Speaker 3: kick that you know that he can make, that he's
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  Speaker 3: shown you he can make. And the fact that it
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  Speaker 3: was Connor's first time kicking for Ohio State in a
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  Speaker 3: pressure moment is not going to go well. I've not
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  Speaker 3: really seen much of the reaction yet. as we've been
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  Speaker 3: working since the game ended. But I know that's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a big topic of conversation, and it should be.
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  Speaker 3: It's just an unbelievable set of circumstances that Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: goes out and gets their big transfer portal kicker. He's
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  Speaker 3: a guy who's made 50 yarders. Coming down to Texas
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  Speaker 3: where he kicked last year, where he's from, and a
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  Speaker 3: 45 yarder with the heat on, he misses it. And
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  Speaker 3: it's just like, you know, what can you do? You
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  Speaker 3: got Joe McGuire, who's a guy that doesn't have a
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  Speaker 3: big leg, you count on him to be able to
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  Speaker 3: be accurate in a situation like that from the plus 39,
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  Speaker 3: which why are you kicking from there? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing it so you can pin them down and
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  Speaker 3: they get up to 15 yard line. It's just, it's
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  Speaker 3: not good enough from your special teams when you go
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  Speaker 3: out and bring in Robbie disher and you do that
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  Speaker 3: to have more effective special teams. That wasn't it. You
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  Speaker 3: had nothing, nothing really in the return game either. You
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  Speaker 3: don't have legend back. You get no kick returns. It
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  Speaker 3: was a, yeah, pretty much a total, I haven't seen
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  Speaker 3: the figures on it. If you lost that hidden yardage battle,
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  Speaker 3: but the whole point of that was to try to
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  Speaker 3: get an advantage and you certainly didn't when it mattered most.
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  Speaker 3: But like we said, everything really kind of needed to
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  Speaker 3: mess up to ruin a lead like that. And it
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  Speaker 3: all did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It definitely, definitely one that you, you got a lead
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  Speaker 1: that you thought, boy, it took a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: for this to be, for this lead to sort of take,
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  Speaker 1: you know, take shape. And then boy, it took a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff for that lead to disappear as well.
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  Speaker 1: The good news, and I know everyone's going to be
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  Speaker 1: in the mood to talk about good news right now,
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  Speaker 1: but the good news is this is not a season-ending,
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  Speaker 1: season-defining loss in and of itself. You've got the 12-team
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  Speaker 1: playoff now. You can lose another game at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Your margin for error has obviously dropped quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: And boy, if you won this game, you'd be feeling
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  Speaker 1: pretty good about your likelihood of making the college football playoff.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you, like third quarter, I was thinking,
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  Speaker 1: all right, so they're probably basically in right now.
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  Speaker 2: And then what happened? I know.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not a season-ending loss for them in the
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  Speaker 1: way that it would have been 20 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: This is a loss that is, you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: not a.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bad loss, but in terms of the college
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  Speaker 1: football playoff, it's a one-point loss on the road against
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  Speaker 1: a team that's probably going to be a top-five kind
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  Speaker 1: of team. It's an excusable loss when you just sort
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  Speaker 1: of look at the top-line numbers.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: while it's infuriating, it's also not necessarily season-defining unless they
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  Speaker 1: allow it to become season-defining.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's interesting when we look at this, if
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  Speaker 3: you'd have told me beforehand, Ohio State goes down, plays
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  Speaker 3: a top-five matchup at Texas, loses by.
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  Speaker 2: A point, how you feeling?
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  Speaker 3: All right, pretty good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: You look good in the eyes of the people who
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  Speaker 3: are judging you. Do you still look that way when
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  Speaker 3: you lose it this way? I don't know. Probably because
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  Speaker 3: there's so much more football to be played if they
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  Speaker 3: go out play good football, lose and drop another one.
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  Speaker 3: But there's this other thing where it's also like when
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  Speaker 3: you go out and you lose in a way that
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  Speaker 3: shakes the program to a point where everybody's just furious
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  Speaker 3: like they did in Oregon by a point in 2024,
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  Speaker 3: things changed for the better immediately. Now, this is really
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  Speaker 3: early in the season.
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  Speaker 2: That wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: It was more middle, late, game eight, game nine. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how that plays. But sometimes losing a
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  Speaker 3: game in a way that really hurts you to your heart.
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  Speaker 3: And this one will hurt them bad, can shake things
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  Speaker 3: up or make adjustments in a way that galvanizes, and
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  Speaker 3: let's hope that happens.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think the response to this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a fascinating storyline to follow over the next
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  Speaker 1: week or two. And they've got Kent State on deck,
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  Speaker 1: so that will be a get-right game.
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  Speaker 2: That's not going to be a lot of drama. You've
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  Speaker 2: got Illinois after that.
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  Speaker 1: And then you get to get on an airplane and
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  Speaker 1: go to Iowa City, Iowa. And, boy, that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a fascinating game because Iowa is– I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: see what Iowa did against Iowa State on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't either. Yeah, I think they were– It was close. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was close.
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  Speaker 1: It was tied the last time I saw. I never
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  Speaker 1: saw the end of the game. So that's a team.
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  Speaker 1: A Kirk Ferens team in Iowa City is always going
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  Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a challenge. But you're
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  Speaker 1: going to sort of test your mettle there. We'll see
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  Speaker 1: how that all goes. But, man, it is going to
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  Speaker 1: be fascinating to see how this team responds to this
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  Speaker 1: loss and the nature of this loss.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have, man, oh, man, I have not
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  Speaker 2: looked at our game thread on our board.
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  Speaker 1: Since about halftime when I threw some photos in there.
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  Speaker 3: It is on and popping at Buckeye Insiders, where you
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  Speaker 3: want to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 1: You want to talk about this game, oh, friends, we
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  Speaker 1: He's our team insider, too. We got Ross and Michael.
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  Speaker 1: They are your scheme insiders. I'm going to guess there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be some fascinating scheme breakdowns this week as well.
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  Speaker 1: And if, you know, for the people who are in
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  Speaker 1: our YouTube comments who are ready to just sort of
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  Speaker 1: throw it all away, great news.
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  Speaker 2: We have a basketball insider, too. His name is Marcus Hartman.
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  Speaker 2: That will do it for today.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.