Latest / Austin Signal / Mando Rayo shares some taco hot takes
Transcript
- 0:08The inaugural KUT Festival is
- 0:10happening this weekend here in
- 0:12Austin, it was scheduled to take
- 0:13place on the UT campus, but now a
- 0:15majority of the events are taking
- 0:16place elsewhere.
- 0:18More about the changes and the back
- 0:19and forth between campus and station
- 0:21leadership.
- 0:22And beef prices are sticking near
- 0:24record highs, and that's
- 0:26an issue that's been exacerbated by
- 0:28severe drought in some of the
- 0:29country's main cattle producing
- 0:30regions.
- 0:31That's forced some Texans to get
- 0:32creative about how they get their
- 0:34meat, more about that coming up
- 0:36on today's show.
- 0:37The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:39of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:41Jerry Quijano.
- 0:42Austinites have many preferences
- 0:44and takes on their tacos.
- 0:46What's your taco ha take?
- 0:48We've got some to share with you,
- 0:50plus some Texas music history
- 0:52for you.
- 0:53All that coming up today,
- 0:54right here on Austin Signal.
- 1:07Howdy out there, you are listening
- 1:09to Austin Signal.
- 1:11It is Thursday, April 30th.
- 1:13I'm your host, Jerry Kihannel.
- 1:14Thank you for tuning in to Community
- 1:16Powered Public Radio.
- 1:17This is KUT News.
- 1:21The University of Texas announced in
- 1:22an email this week to KUT staff and
- 1:24KUT festival panelists that the bulk
- 1:26of the event's programming would be
- 1:27moved off the UT campus.
- 1:29This change came just days before
- 1:31the festival was set to begin.
- 1:33The university says it was because
- 1:34of safety concerns.
- 1:36KUT general manager Debbie Hyatt
- 1:37says KUT has, quote, agreed
- 1:39to every health, security, and
- 1:41safety request that has been made of
- 1:43us and our production company,
- 1:45end quote.
- 1:46Now Amanda Cochran-McCall,
- 1:48Vice President for Legal Affairs and
- 1:49General Counsel at UT says that,
- 1:51and other statements by Hyatt are
- 1:53false.
- 1:54Cochrane-McCall made the allegations
- 1:55in a letter Wednesday to Hyatt.
- 1:57It's a situation that has raised
- 1:58questions from festival attendees,
- 2:00listeners, and panelists alike, and
- 2:02it's one that Neena Satija is
- 2:04looking into. She is the Texas
- 2:05newsroom's investigative editor and
- 2:07reporter. Neena, thanks for talking
- 2:08with us.
- 2:10Thanks so much for having me.
- 2:11So, in case folks are not familiar
- 2:13with what has been happening this
- 2:14week, can you just set the scene?
- 2:16What happened initially on Tuesday?
- 2:18On Tuesday, there was a
- 2:19communication from the Moody College
- 2:21of Communication, which is
- 2:22essentially what houses KUT
- 2:24and its sister station, KUTX.
- 2:27And Moody college had a surprising
- 2:28update. They basically said the
- 2:30KUT festival is gonna have to move
- 2:32major portions of the festival.
- 2:35And the interim dean of Moody's
- 2:37college wrote that that was because
- 2:39of poor planning, essentially on
- 2:41KUT's part.
- 2:42Okay and you spoke with Debbie Hyatt
- 2:43after those emails, what did she
- 2:45have to say?
- 2:46I did. And I'll just note, of
- 2:47course, I am an employee of KUT.
- 2:49I am and investigative editor
- 2:50reporter for KUT in the Texas
- 2:51newsroom. But this is being done
- 2:53outside of the purview of university
- 2:55officials and our executive
- 2:56leadership here at KUT and I'll
- 2:58continue. And to say that in
- 3:00an on the record interview, Debbie
- 3:01told me she was quite surprised
- 3:03and confused by
- 3:06the Moody College emails
- 3:07allegations.
- 3:09It also said that
- 3:11there had been KUT Festival
- 3:12organizers' unwillingness to
- 3:15accept UT staffing and safety
- 3:16recommendations.
- 3:19And there was
- 3:21nothing that our production
- 3:23company had said
- 3:25that they were unwilling to do.
- 3:28And then Wednesday there was a
- 3:28letter from UT about Hyatt's
- 3:30comments. This is from UT legal
- 3:31counsel Amanda Cochran McCall.
- 3:33What did that letter say?
- 3:35That was a very strongly worded
- 3:37letter. I'm going to read from it a
- 3:38little bit.
- 3:39At one point, it says, the
- 3:40university is disappointed that the
- 3:42inaugural KUT festival had to
- 3:43relocate due to poor planning.
- 3:45However, it was the right decision.
- 3:48It also has some strong allegations
- 3:50against Debbie Hyatt.
- 3:52It says, contrary to your public
- 3:54statements, it was false to assert
- 3:56that you and your staff agreed to
- 3:57every health, security, and safety
- 3:58request. It was also false to
- 4:00a assert that KUT did not have an
- 4:01opportunity to sit down with campus
- 4:03safety officials. So it's.
- 4:04It's a pretty strongly worded email,
- 4:06no requirement of action,
- 4:08not clear if she's under some sort
- 4:10of disciplinary review, but it's
- 4:12certainly a reprimand, a harsh
- 4:13reprimande.
- 4:14So there were more details about
- 4:16security requests.
- 4:17You still have a request out
- 4:19for the analysis that was referenced
- 4:20on Tuesday, is that right?
- 4:22Yes, we have requested that, a copy
- 4:24of that, which Debbie Hyatt
- 4:26and others that we spoke to told us
- 4:27they never saw that in advance of
- 4:29that email from Moody College.
- 4:30Okay, so what's going to happen now?
- 4:32How does this move forward?
- 4:34That's a really great question.
- 4:35I think we don't know the answer to
- 4:37that.
- 4:38I reached out to the university for
- 4:40comment. I'll know that the
- 4:41university sent me this letter
- 4:43yesterday.
- 4:44They wanted me to have it.
- 4:48And they've said, I just heard from
- 4:49spokesman Mike Rosen, that they
- 4:51don't anticipate commenting beyond
- 4:53that. So I don't what happens
- 4:55next. Of course, operationally,
- 4:57we'll see the festival is planned
- 4:59for this weekend. But
- 5:01I think.
- 5:03Who knows, this could be the end of
- 5:05this tense exchange between the
- 5:06general manager of KUT and the
- 5:08university, or it could be an
- 5:10ongoing exchange.
- 5:12Okay so normally when we see KUT in
- 5:14headlines on the website it's
- 5:16because we're announcing events like
- 5:17the KUT Festival but this
- 5:19time it has been, it's there
- 5:21because it's part of the news that's
- 5:23happening. Why is this being
- 5:24reported on? And why has this risen
- 5:25to the level of news?
- 5:27That's a really good question.
- 5:28I think it's clear
- 5:30that a KUT is part
- 5:32of the fabric, the cultural fabric
- 5:34of Austin.
- 5:35I think there was a lot of interest
- 5:36in this festival as a community
- 5:38event. There were some pretty big
- 5:39newsmakers that were gonna be there
- 5:41at the festival that are still
- 5:42planning to be there as panelists.
- 5:44We had musicians that are popular
- 5:46like Shaky Graves who were set to
- 5:48perform, who I believe are still
- 5:50gonna perform.
- 5:51And so when those last
- 5:53minute changes occurred,
- 5:54people in the community noticed.
- 5:55We heard from.
- 5:57Listeners and from readers and from
- 5:58our audience, and they wanted to
- 6:00know what happened.
- 6:01But I think I would say it's
- 6:04gotten more newsworthy, in
- 6:06my view, since the letter
- 6:08that the university sent, you know,
- 6:10since we heard about this letter and
- 6:11since the university sent me a copy
- 6:12of this letter that they sent to
- 6:14KUT's general manager.
- 6:15Um, and it does feel
- 6:17like it is part of
- 6:19this ongoing escalation.
- 6:22Um, you know, of.
- 6:24Politics in our country today,
- 6:25particularly when it comes to
- 6:26universities and their on-campus
- 6:28radio stations that's
- 6:30played out in other parts of the
- 6:31country.
- 6:33Also in the politics of
- 6:35UT, which we cover here at KUT,
- 6:37in which lots of local media
- 6:39organizations and statewide and
- 6:40national media organizations cover,
- 6:41that has changed over
- 6:44the years.
- 6:45We've seen changes, major changes to
- 6:47UT that are happening right now
- 6:48under this current political
- 6:49environment that we've reported on,
- 6:51So this feels like a part of that
- 6:52story.
- 6:53Alright, that is Neena Satija.
- 6:55She is the Texas Newsroom's
- 6:56investigative editor and reporter.
- 6:57We're gonna have a link to her
- 6:58reporting in today's show notes.
- 7:00Neena, thank you for your time.
- 7:14Beef prices remain near record
- 7:15highs, with the pound of ground beef
- 7:17currently costing on average about
- 7:19$6.70.
- 7:21That's due in part to low cattle
- 7:23supply, exacerbated by severe
- 7:25drought in some of the country's
- 7:27main cattle-producing regions.
- 7:29With eye-popping beef prices
- 7:30persisting at the grocery store,
- 7:32some folks are getting creative on
- 7:33how to save on meat, up
- 7:35to and including purchasing entire
- 7:38cows. And one Austin area
- 7:40company is helping meet that demand.
- 7:42For Harvest Public Media, Michael
- 7:44Marks reports.
- 7:46I'm in Casey Ginnert's Tidy Garage
- 7:48in Canyon Lake in Central Texas,
- 7:50and she's giving me a tour of her
- 7:52freezer.
- 7:53Okay, so I like to organize,
- 7:55so at the top we have
- 7:57mostly we've got beef flank,
- 7:59we've got any roast I have,
- 8:01we got the osso buco.
- 8:03It is packed.
- 8:04Mostly with beef.
- 8:06She's got roast ribs steaks
- 8:08and a whole trove of her favorite
- 8:10cut
- 8:11This third row, this is literally
- 8:13nothing but beef
- 8:15tenderloin.
- 8:16Is that not the most beautiful thing
- 8:18you've ever seen?
- 8:19These will last Ginnert and her
- 8:20partner more than a year, and
- 8:22these are folks who eat beef about
- 8:24five nights a week.
- 8:26They ordered the meat in bulk from a
- 8:28ranch about 75 miles east
- 8:29called Bastrop Cattle Company.
- 8:32Buying meat direct from a rancher is
- 8:34not a new concept, but
- 8:36the industry boomed thanks to COVID.
- 8:39Back then, grocery stores couldn't
- 8:41keep their cooler stocked, and
- 8:43customers wanted to know they'd have
- 8:44a stable meat supply.
- 8:46Before the pandemic, Bastrop Cattle
- 8:48Company had been selling their
- 8:50grass-fed beef to restaurants.
- 8:52Here's one of the owners, Max
- 8:53Kremke.
- 8:54And then 2020 happened and
- 8:57we were the only ones, one of the
- 8:58few places that was still able to
- 9:00process because we're small.
- 9:01And then we were able to sell
- 9:03to the public and we had a decent
- 9:05website.
- 9:06And so ever since then, it's
- 9:08kind of just been direct to customer
- 9:10only.
- 9:10The cattle crowd in the shade about
- 9:1250 yards away from us, munching
- 9:14and mooing, some of them just a few
- 9:16days old.
- 9:17Kremke says that buying a whole cow
- 9:19from a rancher like him used to be
- 9:21a more complex process.
- 9:22You'd buy the cow from the rancher
- 9:24live weight, then go to the butcher,
- 9:27and then it would turn into a
- 9:28hanging weight, which is with all
- 9:30the inedible parts removed.
- 9:31Then you pay a processing fee, pay a
- 9:33kill fee, give cutting instructions.
- 9:35Now, customers don't have to think
- 9:37about all that.
- 9:38They pick how much beef they want,
- 9:40decide how they want it cut with
- 9:41Kremke's help, and then pay one
- 9:43fee.
- 9:44It's over $2,000 for a
- 9:46half cow and nearly $4,000
- 9:48dollars for a whole.
- 9:49That's a lot of money.
- 9:51But with retail beef prices still
- 9:53near record highs, it might end
- 9:55up cheaper than the grocery store,
- 9:57which is even a surprise to Kremkes.
- 9:59I remember the exact moment whenever
- 10:02somebody said to me, oh,
- 10:04we did the numbers and actually
- 10:06we think it'll save us money.
- 10:07And I was like, oh, okay, that's
- 10:08wild.
- 10:09Smaller operations like Kremke's pay
- 10:10more than big meat packers to
- 10:12process, package, and ship their
- 10:14food, which gets passed on to the
- 10:15customer.
- 10:16But as beef prices go up in
- 10:18stores, buying in bulk from
- 10:20a rancher becomes a better deal.
- 10:22I think that you probably were
- 10:24paying a premium to be purchasing
- 10:26the more local products
- 10:28in bulk.
- 10:30My hypothesis is that that gap has
- 10:32shrunk a little bit.
- 10:33That's Erin Beyer, Extension Meat
- 10:34Specialist for Kansas State
- 10:36University.
- 10:37She says there are caveats.
- 10:39You have to have enough money to pay
- 10:40for the beef up front and a
- 10:42freezer to store it all.
- 10:44Beyer says some people who bought a
- 10:45whole cow during the pandemic got
- 10:47more than they bargained for.
- 10:49That was a big issue from the
- 10:50beginning of, oh, I bought a half
- 10:52of beef or a quarter of beef and
- 10:54then they would get it
- 10:56right. And they have one
- 10:58small chest freezer.
- 11:00There's no way that's going to fit.
- 11:02Back in Canyon Lake, Casey Ginnert
- 11:04likes how buying a few hundred
- 11:05pounds of beef at a time shields her
- 11:07from fluctuations in price.
- 11:09Once you buy it at that
- 11:11price, if it goes up
- 11:13because something's going on,
- 11:16political science-wise, whatever,
- 11:18my pricing has stayed the same, at
- 11:19least for a good year, year and a
- 11:21half.
- 11:22Ginert has not penciled out exactly
- 11:24how much money she's saving, but
- 11:26after buying three orders from
- 11:27Bastrop Cattle Company, she's
- 11:29convinced it's the way to go.
- 11:31The upfront cost is a
- 11:33little painful, but it is
- 11:35worth it in the long run.
- 11:36And just think that you're not gonna
- 11:37see beef, probably,
- 11:39for a good year to year and a half
- 11:40on your grocery bill, and that makes
- 11:42a huge difference.
- 11:43She says this is how she'll buy
- 11:45beef from now on.
- 11:47For Harvest Public Media, I'm
- 11:48Michael Marks.
- 11:50Some news into the KUT newsroom
- 11:52today, Camp Mystic has announced
- 11:54that it is withdrawing its
- 11:56application with the Texas
- 11:57Department of State Health Services
- 11:58for a license to operate this
- 12:00summer.
- 12:01In a statement, the Christian Girls
- 12:03summer camp, where 28 campers and
- 12:05counselors died last summer in
- 12:06deadly floods, said, quote,
- 12:09This decision is intended to remove
- 12:10any doubt that Camp Mystics has
- 12:12heard the concerns expressed by
- 12:14grieving families, members of the
- 12:16Texas House and Senate Investigating
- 12:17Committees, and citizens across
- 12:19our state," end quote.
- 12:22The announcement from the camp comes
- 12:23after a legislative hearing this
- 12:24week where lawmakers heard testimony
- 12:26from investigators, victims'
- 12:28families, and Camp Mystic's
- 12:29operators about the preparations and
- 12:31emergency response to the deadly
- 12:33July 4th floods last year.
- 12:36Investigators said that the camp
- 12:37exhibited, quote, a complacent
- 12:38attitude toward flooding and safety
- 12:40before the 2025 downpour.
- 12:43Chemistic operators apologize
- 12:44to victims' families during this
- 12:46week's hearing.
- 12:47KUT's Kaylee Hunt is working on
- 12:49that story. We're gonna have more
- 12:50about that this afternoon on All
- 12:52Things Considered, and we have more
- 12:54Austin Signal coming up after
- 12:56this break.
- 13:02This is Austin Signal, welcome back.
- 13:05This week, way back in the 60s,
- 13:07Austin jazz musician Martin Banks
- 13:09joined forces with saxophonist
- 13:11Archie Shepp, one of the driving
- 13:13forces behind the development of
- 13:15avant-garde jazz.
- 13:16Jason Mellard, with the Center for
- 13:18Texas Music History at Texas State,
- 13:20tells us about Austin Jazz
- 13:22Trumpeter's appearance on the
- 13:23pivotal album, The Magic
- 13:25of Juju.
- 13:26AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
- 13:35This week in Texas Music History,
- 13:37an Austin Jazz man makes some magic.
- 13:39On April 26, 1967,
- 13:42Austin-born trumpeter Martin Banks
- 13:43appeared on Archie Shepp's LP The
- 13:45Magic of Juju, recorded for Impulse
- 13:47Records.
- 13:48It was the first of two recording
- 13:50dates for Banks with the legendary
- 13:51saxophonist and composer Archie
- 13:53Shep, one of the most prolific and
- 13:55uncompromising figures in jazz and
- 13:57authorized music.
- 13:58The magic of Juju relies on a
- 14:00percussion-heavy ensemble, along
- 14:01with Banks and company rendering
- 14:03intricate arrangements in support of
- 14:05Shep's lengthy solos.
- 14:19Martin Banks attended Anderson High
- 14:21School in Austin and owned his
- 14:22skills in regional bands before
- 14:24embarking for California, San
- 14:25Francisco, then Los Angeles, where
- 14:27he made his first recordings in 1961
- 14:29with saxophonist Dexter Gordon.
- 14:31Banks toured with the Duke
- 14:32Ellington, Count Basie, and Lionel
- 14:34Hampton bands.
- 14:37He tried his hand at Broadway,
- 14:38playing in the band for the
- 14:39counter-cultural hit, Hair, in a
- 14:41Hollywood film, working on the music
- 14:42for 1971's Cotton Comes to
- 14:44Harlem, featuring Red Fox and Teddy
- 14:46Wilson.
- 14:49In his genre-hopping career, he
- 14:51toured with Ray Charles and appeared
- 14:52on Brother Ray's landmark LP,
- 14:54Modern Sounds in Country and Western
- 14:56Music, that staked a claim for the
- 14:58black presence in and influence on
- 15:00country music.
- 15:01Love me half as much
- 15:03as I love
- 15:05you
- 15:12Over the span of his career, Banks
- 15:13also worked with fellow Texans King
- 15:15Curtis, Freddie King, and Dr.
- 15:17James Polk.
- 15:18In 1988, he moved back home to
- 15:20Austin and became a stalwart of the
- 15:21local jazz scene, performing
- 15:23frequently at the Elephant Room
- 15:24downtown and appearing at the fabled
- 15:26Liberty Lunch with another free jazz
- 15:28giant, Sun Ra.
- 15:30Banks passed unexpectedly in 2004,
- 15:32his legacy in Texas jazz secure.
- 15:43You can hear music from the Lone
- 15:44Star State 24-7 on the
- 15:46Texas Music Experience at tmx.fm.
- 15:59When we're talking food, everyone
- 16:01has their preference and
- 16:03an opinion, and it seems like
- 16:05more often than not when it comes to
- 16:07talking tacos, there are some
- 16:09definite hot takes.
- 16:10Perhaps you've got your own you're
- 16:11thinking about right now.
- 16:13Taco journalist Mando Rayo has his
- 16:15share of taco hot takes, and
- 16:17he talked to some folks who wanted
- 16:18to share their top thoughts.
- 16:21He spoke with Texas Standards'
- 16:23Angela Kocherga.
- 16:24Well, so first, what's your top
- 16:27taco hot take?
- 16:28That's hard to say.
- 16:29Yeah, I do.
- 16:31I have many, but I think
- 16:32salsa should be spicy.
- 16:34What is this thing about salsa?
- 16:37Oh, I just love the texture and,
- 16:39you know, I love the aroma.
- 16:42But no, tiene que picar.
- 16:44You know, like most Mexicans say,
- 16:46no pica no pika means si pica.
- 16:48So for me, salsa has to
- 16:50be spicy
- 16:51Yeah, and I mean, you need flavor,
- 16:53not just texture.
- 16:55I know. Well, let's listen to the
- 16:56next Taco Hot Take.
- 16:58My taco hot take is, the most
- 17:00underrated taco is a soft three-pot
- 17:02taco.
- 17:04Just no crisp on it, gushy.
- 17:06It's meaty, it feels like
- 17:08pate and custard in your mouth.
- 17:11Zomando, tell us who that was and
- 17:13what you think about that take.
- 17:14Yeah, well, you know, I invited
- 17:16the community to come into the
- 17:18studio to give us their best
- 17:20hot take.
- 17:21And so we heard from chef Chris
- 17:23Krensky from Ramen del Barrio,
- 17:26and he was like all
- 17:27in on soft tripas.
- 17:31And you know if you know what tripas
- 17:33are, you know, they're basically
- 17:34boiled and fried intestines.
- 17:37And, and so he says that they
- 17:39should be soft
- 17:41and, and, you know, they should be
- 17:43gelatinous and
- 17:46definitely stirred up,
- 17:48stirred up a conversation online
- 17:50and, you know?
- 17:51Cause everybody usually loves
- 17:52crispy. They love tripitas,
- 17:55but they have to be crispy, right?
- 17:56And then some people said, no, it
- 17:58could be a mix of both, but, and but
- 17:59most everybody was like, man, what
- 18:01are you talking about?
- 18:02Who's going to eat?
- 18:03You know, soft boiled
- 18:06three-pass.
- 18:08Yeah, well, yeah, talking about
- 18:09texture, not not doesn't
- 18:11sound appealing, but let's
- 18:14listen to the next hot take.
- 18:16My hot take is that salsa should
- 18:18be free.
- 18:19I think in San Antonio you can
- 18:21find salsa at every taqueria and
- 18:23you can have as much as you want, as
- 18:24little as you want.
- 18:26You can add it at your gusto.
- 18:28And here in Austin they charge you
- 18:29for every little bucket,
- 18:32like 25%
- 18:32for a little extra.
- 18:34It's so good. Yeah, I know. As part
- 18:35of the back goal.
- 18:36So Mando, tell us who that was and
- 18:38what you think about that take.
- 18:40Yeah, so I spoke to Juani Torres.
- 18:42He's a community activist from San
- 18:44Antonio.
- 18:45So, you know, when you go to a
- 18:46restaurant, you get your chips and
- 18:47salsa. Nowadays, some
- 18:49restaurants, because the
- 18:51economy, they have to charge
- 18:53for the salsa.
- 18:54So she's like, old school,
- 18:56hey, no, you don't come into the
- 18:57restaurant, I'm supporting, the
- 18:59salsa should be free.
- 19:01And by now, everybody kind of came
- 19:03in her defense, to be honest.
- 19:04And you know there was some that
- 19:05like, well, well, you they have pay
- 19:07for, You know, the increased
- 19:09jalapeno prices.
- 19:11But now she's stuck to her guns and
- 19:13she's like, you know what?
- 19:14I'm sorry salsa.
- 19:15She'll be free
- 19:16Yeah, well, salsa goes with your
- 19:17tacos, huh? You can't have naked
- 19:19tacos.
- 19:20I guess I'm like, it's all part of
- 19:21the package.
- 19:22Well, I'll chime in. I like the same
- 19:24with the Torreados.
- 19:26You know, if you can ask for those.
- 19:27Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:28Yeah, yeah, Chile Torreados.
- 19:31Okay, now that's like, that's
- 19:32definitely a side, right?
- 19:34So it's not just part of like, you
- 19:35know, the, yeah.
- 19:36That's very specific for Chile
- 19:38Torredos.
- 19:39I know. I love them.
- 19:40I wish they were for you, but they're
- 19:41not. Well, what else are you hearing
- 19:43from folks? I mean, there definitely
- 19:44are some opinions out there when it
- 19:46comes.
- 19:46Well, you know, I
- 19:48talked to Brandon Boone out of
- 19:50an Austin group called Warrior
- 19:52Latto.
- 19:53Here it is. Let's listen.
- 19:54I'm just a traditional guy when it
- 19:56comes to taco. I just like the
- 19:57ground beef, the cheese, tomato,
- 20:00lettuce and I like to run it like
- 20:02that. Whether it's on a soft taco,
- 20:04flour, that's like my go-to.
- 20:06Okay, ground beef on everything.
- 20:07Yeah, for some reason that's just my
- 20:09go to.
- 20:10Man, everybody came after him.
- 20:12I was like, you know, but you know,
- 20:14I think people when they think of
- 20:15ground beef, they might think of
- 20:16Taco Bell or just very
- 20:18bland type of taco.
- 20:21But you know, most of the time
- 20:23actually got to come back to in
- 20:25his defense.
- 20:26Because i was like most of the time
- 20:27if you go to a mexican restaurant or
- 20:28tex-mex place if you order ground
- 20:30beef tacos you're eating picadillo
- 20:32yes and so that's why i'm like what
- 20:34what are you guys talking about you
- 20:36know but yeah you're even if
- 20:37you're if you like if you are down
- 20:39With ground beef tacos, you're
- 20:40probably eating picadillo.
- 20:42Yeah, no, and definitely very
- 20:44popular.
- 20:45Okay, so we've got one more hot
- 20:47take.
- 20:47Yes, Rene Chavez
- 20:49from, actually
- 20:51from KUT in Austin,
- 20:53he said that Birria was
- 20:55overrated.
- 20:56I think quesadilla tacos are
- 20:58overrated, overhyped.
- 21:00Why?
- 21:01It's style over
- 21:03substance to me.
- 21:05So I think a lot of places are
- 21:07prioritizing the pornographic cheese
- 21:09pool, you know, for the Instagram
- 21:12reel or the TikTok vibe.
- 21:13A lot of food porn, for sure.
- 21:14Totally. And I think they kind of
- 21:16let the quality of the beef
- 21:19slip a little bit.
- 21:20Yeah, so he was like, even with
- 21:22the dipping, it's just like this
- 21:23whole trend that just
- 21:25took off and lost its
- 21:27way.
- 21:27So too much, too much popularity.
- 21:29He needs to make a trip to Mexico
- 21:30and go to one of these old places
- 21:32off the road.
- 21:34Yeah, birria as
- 21:36a soup, as a caldo, okay.
- 21:38As a stew, yes.
- 21:40But yeah, the whole thing about
- 21:42the red tacos all over the
- 21:44internet, it's been
- 21:46trending for the last
- 21:4810 years.
- 21:49Wow, yeah another one that
- 21:51kind of a victim of its own
- 21:52popularity.
- 21:53Yeah exactly.
- 21:54You're never going out of style.
- 21:56We really appreciate you sharing
- 21:58your insight.
- 21:59We've been speaking with Mando Rayo,
- 22:00host of the Tacos of Texas podcast.
- 22:03Mando, thank you so much for your
- 22:04time.
- 22:08And thank you out there for tuning
- 22:10in to Austin Signal.
- 22:11Before you get out of here today,
- 22:13just wanted to let you know the
- 22:14National Weather Service has issued
- 22:15a flood watch that will go into
- 22:17effect tonight at nine o'clock and
- 22:20be in effect until Friday night
- 22:22at nine o' clock, National Weather
- 22:23service, giving us a 90%
- 22:25chance of precipitation tomorrow.
- 22:27So have multiple ways to stay
- 22:29weather aware and keep it
- 22:31tuned in to KUT for the
- 22:33latest out there and be careful,
- 22:34take care of your neighbor.
- 22:35That is very important.
- 22:37This is Austin Signal.
- 22:39We are community powered public
- 22:40radio.
- 22:41Rayna Sevilla is our technical
- 22:43director.
- 22:44Alexandra Hart is our producer.
- 22:45And Kristen Cabrera is our
- 22:47managing producer.
- 22:49We'll have more in today's podcast
- 22:50show notes and at kut.org
- 22:53slash signal.
- 22:55I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.
- 22:56We will talk to you tomorrow.