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Episode #3980 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive August 2000 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Welcome again to another Radio Archive Hour from the Hall
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Speaker 1: of Fame, Phil Henry Show and philhenryshow.com. From October of 2000, wait,
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Speaker 1: excuse me, this is August of 2000. August of 2000,
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Speaker 1: this was when the Republican National Convention was taking place.
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Speaker 1: And our very own Larry Grover, the former president of
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Speaker 1: conservatives of Kern County, who lost his wife and kids
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Speaker 1: because he was so intent on getting Clinton out of office,
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Speaker 1: and he never really succeeded doing that. But Larry is
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Speaker 1: like kind of a I don't know, man.
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Speaker 2: He's just nuts, okay?
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Speaker 1: And here he is talking about how the Republicans had
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Speaker 1: too many black people and too many gay people at
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Speaker 1: the convention. There's no way that they're going to convince them.
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Speaker 1: You just might as well move on to some votes
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Speaker 1: you can actually get.
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Speaker 2: Let's see, what else does he say here?
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Speaker 1: It's just a waste of time getting the, quote, homosexual
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Speaker 1: and African-American voter on board. So instead, Larry had a
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Speaker 1: black girlfriend, and he shows up for a date with
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Speaker 1: her because he was late. He was at a Civil
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Speaker 1: War reenactment. wearing a Confederate soldier uniform. And he wonders
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Speaker 1: why his life is hard.
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Speaker 2: Here's Larry.
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Speaker 3: This is Larry Grover broadcasting live, Phil, from the Republican
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Speaker 3: National Convention. And right now we're in one of the
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Speaker 3: ante rooms of the Republican National Convention where a lot
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Speaker 3: of delegates come for refreshments, a cup of coffee, maybe
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Speaker 3: some a liquid refreshment of some kind before we head
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Speaker 3: back out onto the floor.
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Speaker 1: What is on the agenda right now for this evening?
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Speaker 2: I know it's, what, a little bit after 8 o'clock?
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Speaker 3: A little bit after 8 o'clock right now in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 3: Not a lot going on on the floor right now, Phil.
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Speaker 3: Some of the delegations have been making their proclamations. Delegates
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Speaker 3: are committing a lot of things. As you know, of course,
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Speaker 3: George W. Bush has been nominated to the presidency of
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Speaker 3: the United States as the candidate. So this is really
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Speaker 3: just a roll call to see where everybody's at, how
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Speaker 3: everyone feels. And that's why right now is probably as
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Speaker 3: good a time as any to sort of talk to
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Speaker 3: you about some of the things that I've seen.
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Speaker 1: And I know that you've seen a lot of things
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Speaker 1: that you like and a lot of things that maybe
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Speaker 1: disturb you a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have seen a lot of things that I like.
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Speaker 3: I've seen George W. Bush. a guy that I think
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Speaker 3: very highly of, elevated to the nominee of the Republican
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Speaker 3: Party for the presidency of the United States of America.
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Speaker 3: But I've got to tell you that I worked... I
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Speaker 3: worked tirelessly for years in the Republican Party. I believe
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Speaker 3: to this day that Bill Clinton should not be president
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Speaker 3: of the United States. I came to Philadelphia to nominate
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Speaker 3: George W. Bush and to support the Republican Party. I
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Speaker 3: have sacrificed an awful lot for this party. Now I
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Speaker 3: come to Philadelphia... and the best chance for the Republicans
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Speaker 3: to regain the White House in 12 years. And last
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Speaker 3: night I walked into a convention being addressed by a
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Speaker 3: known African-American. I found out yesterday that Dick Cheney's daughter,
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Speaker 3: who it is alleged is a gay, will be with
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Speaker 3: him at the convention. Now we've got these log cabin types.
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Speaker 3: And these log cabin guys.
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Speaker 1: The log cabin types being who? These are gay Republicans.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the log cabin club is a gay Republican club.
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Speaker 1: What about inclusion? You say a known African-American. Are you
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Speaker 1: talking about Colin Powell?
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Speaker 3: Colin Powell is a known black and a great servant
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Speaker 3: to our country. Don't get me wrong. He was a
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Speaker 3: chief of staff. He helped win the war against the Arabs.
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Speaker 3: He's a tremendous American. But I'm going to tell you,
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Speaker 3: I believe the gay and the black... Are Democrats in Republicans' clothing, Phil?
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Speaker 2: Oh, come on. Hold on for a second, Larry.
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Speaker 3: No, Phil, I really do. I think your gay in
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Speaker 3: your back is a Democrat wearing the Republican silver suit.
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Speaker 3: And I think at the most opportune moment, they'll stick
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Speaker 3: a spear right in your back.
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Speaker 2: Why do you say that?
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Speaker 3: Why do I say it? Because I am telling you
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Speaker 3: that they will stab you in the back. These are
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Speaker 3: people who have been suckling at the teat of the
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Speaker 3: Democratic Party for some 60 to 70 years. I spent
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Speaker 3: the better part of the last eight years trying to
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Speaker 3: get Clinton met.
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Speaker 2: Hold on for a minute. I want to get back
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Speaker 2: to this gays and blacks thing.
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Speaker 3: I know, but I've been looking at this.
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Speaker 2: All right, I know that.
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Speaker 1: The gay vote, the black vote, you say, is a
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Speaker 1: Democratic vote no matter what.
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Speaker 3: You better believe it. And I think that what we're
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Speaker 3: doing in this convention... Jerry Falwell, by the way, just
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Speaker 3: walked by and very graciously said hello. I think that
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Speaker 3: what we're doing here in the.
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Speaker 2: He didn't say hello to me.
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Speaker 3: He doesn't know you. I've met Jerry a couple of times.
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Speaker 3: Very graciously said hello. I think what we're doing in
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Speaker 3: the Republican Party is we are wooing a vote that
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Speaker 3: we cannot have, and that is the gay and the black.
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Speaker 2: Don't you want the party to be inclusive?
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Speaker 3: Well, I do want the party to be inclusive, but
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Speaker 3: I spent the better part of eight years trying to
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Speaker 3: get Clinton out of the White House. I neglected my family.
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Speaker 3: I lost my wife. I lost my home. I moved
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Speaker 3: in with my mother, and after a morning period, I
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Speaker 3: started to finally date. And I started to date a
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Speaker 3: young African-American woman. And just before we were going to
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Speaker 3: consummate our relationship, she broke the relationship off.
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Speaker 1: So you base all of your feelings on the black
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Speaker 1: vote fleeing back to the Democratic Party on this young lady?
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying to you that it is a sign,
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Speaker 3: I think, of the black. They go back to the
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Speaker 3: person that they know best. They don't venture out into
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Speaker 3: anything new very easily.
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Speaker 2: Why did she break up with you? Why did this
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Speaker 2: young black woman break up with you?
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Speaker 3: She had problems. I've got a hobby. I'm involved in
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Speaker 3: civil war reenactments, and she had problems. I guess I
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Speaker 3: understand that. And I reenacted on the part of the Confederacy,
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Speaker 3: and she had some issues with that. You know?
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Speaker 1: Well, hold on for a minute. You're dating a black woman,
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Speaker 1: and you do Civil War reenactments?
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Speaker 3: All right. I mean, I understand that.
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Speaker 2: No, well, wait a second. There's nothing unusual about that.
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Speaker 3: I realize it's an unusual hobby.
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Speaker 2: No, it is not an unusual hobby.
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Speaker 1: What's unusual about it is you're reenacting the Civil War
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Speaker 1: as a Confederate soldier, and you have a black girlfriend.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she got angry, and she got hurt about this.
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Speaker 3: And I don't know... One of the problems was she
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Speaker 3: got asked to reenact as one of the conscripts because
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Speaker 3: they had women in the Confederate Army. They had black women.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, conscripts. More like slaves, right?
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, Phil, and I didn't want to
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Speaker 3: get into it.
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Speaker 1: All right, so you've got a problem because you think, well,
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Speaker 1: what about gay people?
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Speaker 3: Well, the same thing. You know I was going to
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Speaker 3: buy that house in the marina, right?
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Speaker 2: Why did that fall through? Because you didn't get the loan, right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a gay banker didn't give me the loan. So, Phil,
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you... These gays and blacks will always run
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Speaker 3: back to their mommy. That's the Democratic Party. That's my concern.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say it to you again.
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Speaker 1: Do you not want to be an inclusive party and
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Speaker 1: have them in the party?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I would love to have the gay and the
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Speaker 3: black in the Republican Party, not the Democratic Party. But
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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you something. I think it's time
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Speaker 3: for some kind of a loyalty oath because I don't know.
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Speaker 3: You can woo the gay, woo the black, but they're
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Speaker 3: going to desert right back to the Democrats.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how you were able to get
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Speaker 1: a loyalty oath out of them. How can you make
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Speaker 1: sure that they're going to vote Republican?
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I talked to Bernie Smith. I know
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Speaker 3: you know Bernie and Bob Hellevin from the committee over
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Speaker 3: in Kern County.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how are the guys doing?
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Speaker 3: They're doing great. They came up with the idea of
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Speaker 3: a loyalty oath.
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Speaker 2: How would that go? You give this to gays and blacks?
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Speaker 3: I think the only way to keep gays and blacks
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Speaker 3: in the Republican Party is to give them a loyalty oath.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how that would sound. I mean, what,
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Speaker 2: I swear that I will.
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Speaker 3: I really, really am, and I'm not kidding. There's something wrong.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: All right, hold a minute, Larry. Larry Grover from Conservatives
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Speaker 1: of Kern County. He's in the city of Philadelphia for
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Speaker 1: the Republican National Convention. Our number is 1-800-449-8686. We're talking
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Speaker 1: to Larry about the Republican Party wooing a lot of
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Speaker 1: gay and black votes this year.
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Speaker 2: If I read correctly, I think that there are some.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, 18 of the 20, 2066 delegates
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Speaker 1: are openly gay. That was as opposed to two in 1992.
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Speaker 1: And obviously Colin Powell spoke and there's, there's a much
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Speaker 1: greater African-American president presence at the Republican convention this year
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Speaker 1: than what is four years ago or even eight years ago.
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Speaker 2: And it is Larry's belief.
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Speaker 1: And you think that wooing the gay vote and the
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Speaker 1: black vote is a waste of time.
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Speaker 3: Absolute waste of time. These guys are going to run
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Speaker 3: back and they're going to vote Democrat. Like they always have.
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Speaker 3: And we're going to wind up with egg on our face.
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Speaker 3: We're going to look the fool and feel like an idiot.
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Speaker 3: And right now, Rick Dees is addressing the convention.
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Speaker 2: Rick Dees?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my understanding. He's addressing a guy that looks
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Speaker 3: like him or something.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at CNN's coverage. I see a blonde here.
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Speaker 1: The guy behind him looks a little bit like him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was Dees. Or it's David Duke.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's one of the two. But I
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Speaker 3: really do believe that you've got to understand one thing
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Speaker 3: and one thing only. Unless you get the gay and
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Speaker 3: the black to take a loyalty oath.
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Speaker 1: Well, your loyalty oath, I, even though I'm gay or black,
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Speaker 1: I promise to be a.
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Speaker 2: Republican, I really, really mean it.
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Speaker 3: Something like that, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't that sound a little silly?
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Speaker 3: Yes, it does sound silly. Something you could construct, though, Phil.
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Speaker 3: I swear that I will remain loyal to the Republican Party...
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Speaker 3: And I'm not kidding, or I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Well, you can't put I'm not kidding. You're going to
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Speaker 1: only give this to black people and to gay people.
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Speaker 1: It's going to look very much like McCarthyism.
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Speaker 3: No, it's just, you know, are you loyal to us
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Speaker 3: or are you not? The only other black guy, by
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Speaker 3: the way, that I see in this convention hall right
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Speaker 3: now is Bernard Shaw from CNN. So him and Powell,
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Speaker 3: and that's it. But I know that they'll be pouring
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Speaker 3: in here in a few minutes.
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Speaker 1: All right, we've got Larry Grover on the line from
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Speaker 1: the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia, 1-800-449-8686. Just how loyal
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Speaker 1: will the gay vote and the black vote be to
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party this year? The Republican Party looks like
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Speaker 1: they're really going all out to woo those votes, and
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Speaker 1: it's Larry's belief that they are not loyal votes to
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party, that they will flee back to the
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Speaker 1: Democratic side.
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Speaker 2: It's Phil Henry's show.
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Speaker 1: Larry Grover is at the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 1: and you're there at the, what's the name of the
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Speaker 1: arena again?
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Speaker 2: Is that the old Spectrum?
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Speaker 3: Phil, I don't know. The arena is called the Comcast
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Speaker 3: First Union Center, and it's a beautiful edifice. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if it's the old Spectrum or not.
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Speaker 1: Because there was a Spectrum in Philadelphia where the sporting events,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Flyers and 76ers would play. I'm just
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Speaker 1: wondering if it's the same place.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: All right, so we're talking, Larry, about the black and
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Speaker 1: gay voters and how you feel you saw– Colin Powell,
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Speaker 1: a known.
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Speaker 2: You call him a known African-American?
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Speaker 3: Well, he's well-known as a black man addressing this. I
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Speaker 3: just think it's unusual. I think Colin Powell's a great guy,
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Speaker 3: but I think it's unusual to have a black guy
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Speaker 3: out there giving an address, having these gays out here,
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Speaker 3: this Rod Cabin deal. I think it's unusual... It makes
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Speaker 3: me a little nervous, and as I told you, that
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Speaker 3: gal that left me, that black girl that I was
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Speaker 3: dating for six months.
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Speaker 1: She left you because she found your hobby, being involved
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Speaker 1: in Civil War reenactments, to be weird.
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Speaker 3: But you know something? Do you think a white girl
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Speaker 3: would have the same response? I don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems creepy, if you want my
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Speaker 2: honest opinion.
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Speaker 3: Creepy?
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Speaker 1: If you want my honest opinion, I don't think getting
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Speaker 1: involved in Civil War reenactments is the sexiest thing in
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Speaker 1: the world, but I could be wrong.
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Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you this much. The one and
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Speaker 3: only black girl that I ever date, and she turns
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Speaker 3: around and splits because she doesn't like the Civil War deal.
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Speaker 1: And let's remember that you were reenacting on the side
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Speaker 1: of the Confederacy.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that had anything to do with it.
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Speaker 2: Well, here's Albany on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hello.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to speak to your guest over there.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to know, how much have you.
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Speaker 5: Been drinking tonight?
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Speaker 3: I haven't been drinking anything tonight.
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Speaker 4: You do these Civil War reenactments, and you can't understand
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Speaker 4: why a black person would.
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Speaker 3: No, sir, what I'm saying... No, hold on for a minute.
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Speaker 3: First of all, it is a part of our history
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Speaker 3: as a country.
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Speaker 4: What's your opinion of the South Side during the Civil War?
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Speaker 3: Do you think they were right or wrong? I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I think they were wrong. But somebody, when you do
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Speaker 3: a Civil War reenactment... Let.
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Speaker 2: Me ask you something. Are you saying somebody's got to
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Speaker 2: do it?
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Speaker 3: That's right. When you do that, it's a historical reenactment.
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Speaker 4: Well, if you were living in Germany and you were
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Speaker 4: Jewish and some people were doing Nazi reenactments and they
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Speaker 4: were Nazi soldiers, would you find that offensive?
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Speaker 3: If you're doing a historical reenactment, what's wrong with it?
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Speaker 4: Nobody over there would do it because they've been so discredited.
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Speaker 3: It's amazing to.
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Speaker 4: Me that people in this country are still fighting a
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Speaker 4: civil war.
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Speaker 3: In every movie, someone's got to play the bad guy.
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Speaker 3: That's all I'm talking about.
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Speaker 2: All right, but you don't see you're playing a confederate.
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Speaker 4: No, you don't have to play it.
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Speaker 3: Somebody's got to play the bad guy.
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Speaker 4: You can let some other wacko play it. You don't
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Speaker 4: have to play it.
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Speaker 3: Why can't I get to play it?
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Speaker 4: Unless you get some kind of perverse pleasure out of it.
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Speaker 4: pretending you're a Civil War fighter.
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, friend. I wanted to dine
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Speaker 3: this girl for six months. I'm not impressed. She's going
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Speaker 3: to stick a spear in my back. I don't blame
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Speaker 3: her for bolting, by the way. What? You know what?
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Speaker 4: You're going to judge all black people by one experience
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Speaker 4: with one black man away from what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: I just found out.
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Speaker 5: She was wrong to be offended.
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Speaker 1: What has this got to do with blacks and gays
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Speaker 1: deserting the Republican ticket?
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Speaker 3: I'm using it as an example as to how disloyal
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Speaker 3: some of the blacks can be.
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Speaker 1: Just because a woman leaves you because you're doing Civil
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Speaker 1: War reenactments, by the way, she might have split because
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Speaker 1: she would rather be with you on the weekend than
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Speaker 1: have you run off in your little Confederate uniform.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know something? That's pretty selfish. These people are
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Speaker 3: going to go back. Are you gay, sir? I'll ask
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Speaker 3: you point blank. No, I'm not.
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Speaker 4: I'm heterosexual.
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Speaker 3: All right. What do you think of the gay and
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Speaker 3: their log cabin boys eventually voting Democrat, even though they
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Speaker 3: like to hang out at the convention?
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Speaker 4: I think it's such a small percentage of the vote,
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Speaker 4: I think it's pretty irrelevant, to tell you the truth.
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Speaker 3: Well, they're doing an awful lot to rule those votes.
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Speaker 3: They had a known African.
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Speaker 4: Here's the thing that you don't understand. When Colin Powell gets.
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Speaker 6: Up there and speaks, let me finish.
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Speaker 4: He might not attract many black votes, but he is
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Speaker 4: going to attract moderates, particularly women, who voted for Democrats
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Speaker 4: the last two elections.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 1: Because he's a symbol of something more than me, but
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Speaker 1: he's a symbol of the military.
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Speaker 4: And they know they're smart to put him up there
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Speaker 4: because the wacko right-wingers like you are going to vote
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Speaker 4: Republican anyway, no matter how offended you.
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Speaker 3: Might be by him.
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Speaker 4: You have to reach out to the middle in the
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Speaker 4: general election.
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Speaker 3: So a known African-American gets up and addresses.
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Speaker 4: Is that a.
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Speaker 7: You're calling him a known.
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Speaker 4: Like, there's something wrong with that. Like, a known homosexual.
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Speaker 4: What's wrong with him being an African-American?
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Speaker 3: There is nothing wrong with him being an African-American, but
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Speaker 3: you're at the Republican convention for crying out loud. And
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Speaker 3: a known homo....
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Speaker 2: Okay, you're just homophobic, aren't you?
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Speaker 3: No, I am not.
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Speaker 2: A known homo.
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Speaker 4: A known homo and a known African-American? Like, that's somehow
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Speaker 4: the same thing?
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Speaker 2: It sounds like, you know, a known communist.
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Speaker 3: No, what I'm saying, you two guys are missing the point.
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Speaker 3: The point is.
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Speaker 4: And then you want to make him sign loyalty oaths?
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Speaker 4: You're really.
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Speaker 3: I can't... No, I'm saying, when these black, when the
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Speaker 3: black and the gay say that they're going to vote Republican,
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Speaker 3: how do you hold them to it? How do you
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Speaker 3: hold them.
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Speaker 4: But that's not who they're appealing to. They're trying to
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Speaker 4: appeal to moderates who are the swing voters who are
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Speaker 4: going to decide this election.
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Speaker 3: You're aware that Colin Powell is black, right?
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Speaker 6: That he what?
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Speaker 3: That he's black.
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Speaker 4: No kidding.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm asking you simply, sir. Do you know that
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Speaker 3: he's black?
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Speaker 2: Yes, we know he's black.
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Speaker 4: What relevance does this have to the conversation?
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Speaker 3: Excuse me, Mr. Hendry. I'm asking the gentleman. Do you
16:19
Speaker 3: know he's black or do you not? Yes, I do.
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Speaker 3: Then that makes him a known African-American. That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: What relevance does that have to the conversation?
16:27
Speaker 3: Because I'm telling you, based upon my experience with a
16:30
Speaker 3: gay banker and this black girl, they'll put a spear
16:34
Speaker 3: in your back. The minute you turn your back on them.
16:36
Speaker 3: A spear?
16:37
Speaker 4: Is that a racial slur?
16:38
Speaker 2: What is that, a spear?
16:39
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about.
16:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, I sure do. What's the name of your organization
16:44
Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania there?
16:45
Speaker 3: I'm in California, sir, the Conservatives of Kern County, California.
16:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you call yourselves the CCC?
16:51
Speaker 3: I'm just curious. Oh, sir, I do. Kern County.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I know why you do, too.
16:55
Speaker 3: You know something? Are you a Republican? Am I a Republican?
16:59
Speaker 4: I work for the Republican Party.
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Speaker 3: Okay, then you and I both know that we need
17:03
Speaker 3: to stick together and we need to push on to
17:05
Speaker 3: victory in November and not waste our time loving voters
17:08
Speaker 3: who are not going to be loyal. That's all I'm saying.
17:10
Speaker 2: But that's not.
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Speaker 4: Who they're appealing to. They're appealing to the moderates. Don't
17:14
Speaker 4: you understand that?
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Speaker 2: That's why Colin Powell was speaking.
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Speaker 1: Moderate voters who don't want the right-wing aspect of the
17:22
Speaker 1: Republican Party to dominate. They want the moderate, and Colin
17:25
Speaker 1: Powell represents that, okay?
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Speaker 3: Well, as a known black, and I guess this guy
17:29
Speaker 3: doesn't like me saying known black.
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Speaker 4: Why do you keep having to repeat a known black?
17:32
Speaker 2: A known black.
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Speaker 3: I just said you know he's black.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're losing your car phone, sir. I appreciate your call.
17:40
Speaker 1: I'll ask the gentleman's question. Why do you keep repeating
17:42
Speaker 1: known black?
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Speaker 3: Yes! And he's a known black.
17:47
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know what that means. 1-800-449-8686.
17:52
Speaker 1: Larry Grover is at the Democratic, or excuse me, at
17:54
Speaker 1: the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia, Omaha, on the Phil
17:57
Speaker 1: Henry Show.
17:58
Speaker 3: Hello. Hello. Yes, sir.
18:00
Speaker 6: I just wanted to say a couple of things. First
18:02
Speaker 6: of all, let's make clear who I am. I'm a Republican.
18:05
Speaker 6: I'm a conservative, very conservative, social conservative, which fits right
18:09
Speaker 6: in with what the guest is talking about.
18:12
Speaker 3: I've worked for eight years on behalf of the right
18:14
Speaker 3: wing of the conservative party.
18:16
Speaker 6: Well, I would like to say, first of all, to
18:19
Speaker 6: anyone who's listening, that this man does not represent the
18:22
Speaker 6: conservative group in the Republican Party.
18:25
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's presumptuous, sir.
18:27
Speaker 6: Sir, I do not understand. I mean, if you really
18:30
Speaker 6: are a Republican, I don't know why you don't stay quiet,
18:33
Speaker 6: because you do not represent us, and you are giving
18:37
Speaker 6: a black eye to the Republican Party.
18:39
Speaker 3: The only one giving a black eye to the Republican
18:42
Speaker 3: Party is Mr. Powell. and the other known African Americans.
18:46
Speaker 6: And I would add that when I called, and I'm
18:48
Speaker 6: still not so sure it's true, I've been assured that
18:51
Speaker 6: you are real, I would assume that you're somebody from
18:54
Speaker 6: the Democratic.
18:55
Speaker 3: Party that's getting on here to try and say this stuff.
18:57
Speaker 3: I will tell you this, that for eight years I
18:59
Speaker 3: worked on behalf of removing Bill Clinton from office. As
19:04
Speaker 3: I said, I neglected family and friends. I heard that.
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Speaker 6: They assured me you're real, so I'm taking their word
19:10
Speaker 6: for it. But you sound like somebody who's trying to
19:13
Speaker 6: sabotage the party.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do. Hold on. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: The number one rated Phil Henry show with Larry Grover
19:34
Speaker 1: from Conservatives of Kern County.
19:36
Speaker 2: And I'm going to get back to Larry. You on
19:38
Speaker 2: the line?
19:39
Speaker 3: I'm right here, Phil. All right.
19:40
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the gentleman who was
19:41
Speaker 1: hanging on in Omaha. Then I've got a couple of
19:43
Speaker 1: more questions of my own.
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Speaker 2: Omaha, go ahead.
19:46
Speaker 6: Well, I've pretty much said all I had to say
19:48
Speaker 6: except just to ask one more thing. of your show.
19:51
Speaker 6: You obviously went out and found the most off-killed or
19:54
Speaker 6: far to the right example to hold up as a Republican.
19:57
Speaker 6: I take you to task a little bit, too, but
20:00
Speaker 6: that's really all.
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Speaker 3: Hold on for a minute, sir. I'm my own man.
20:04
Speaker 3: You don't have to beat up on the talk show host. Mr.
20:07
Speaker 1: Grover is known to us as a conservative member of
20:10
Speaker 1: the Republican Party.
20:13
Speaker 2: Radical? I don't know. I know that he worked at.
20:15
Speaker 3: Oh, hold on. I don't need you talking for me.
20:18
Speaker 3: I worked on behalf of getting Bill Clinton out of...
20:20
Speaker 3: Look what happened to a lot of us who worked
20:22
Speaker 3: to try to get Clinton out of office. What do
20:24
Speaker 3: you think happened? We look like a bunch of clowns.
20:29
Speaker 3: And Clinton is off there getting more tail than he
20:32
Speaker 3: probably was getting before they started the impeachment.
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Speaker 6: Sir, you don't look like a clown. For what you
20:37
Speaker 6: did to try and work on removing Mr. Clinton, you
20:41
Speaker 6: don't look like a clown at all. You people who
20:43
Speaker 6: did that stuff are heroes.
20:44
Speaker 3: Heroes?
20:44
Speaker 6: What makes you trouble with you is your terms that
20:47
Speaker 6: are clearly racist. I don't know if that girl had
20:50
Speaker 6: any trouble with your Confederacy. You're a racist, sir. No
20:52
Speaker 6: wonder she left you.
20:53
Speaker 3: How am I a racist when I'm trying to determine...
20:56
Speaker 3: It speaks for itself. She turns around and runs... We
20:59
Speaker 3: had a dinner date at the Red Lobster... And I
21:03
Speaker 3: showed up in my Civil War uniform, and I talked
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Speaker 3: to Mr. Henry about it.
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Speaker 2: Well, see, that's the thing. If you're showing up for
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Speaker 2: a date wearing a Confederate uniform.
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Speaker 3: Because I was late, because the enactment had run long,
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Speaker 3: because she was waiting for me, and I wanted to
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Speaker 3: be a gentleman.
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Speaker 1: So you roll into the Red Lobster while she's waiting
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Speaker 1: for you, wearing a gray coat uniform.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I did.
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Speaker 2: And you sit down with your black girlfriend for dinner.
21:29
Speaker 3: So in other words, trying to be a gentleman... Makes
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Speaker 3: me a bad guy.
21:34
Speaker 6: Okay.
21:36
Speaker 3: I plead guilty. Well, how about you in Omaha, sir?
21:39
Speaker 3: Would you have done that?
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Speaker 6: Well, I wouldn't have done that, but that's beside the point.
21:43
Speaker 6: His uniform is nothing. It's the entire attitude he's been
21:46
Speaker 6: expressing all the way through this thing. Known black man
21:48
Speaker 6: and all the rest of this. Clearly the man has
21:51
Speaker 6: racial problems. Why he dated him in the first place,
21:53
Speaker 6: I'll never know.
21:54
Speaker 3: I've got a racial problem. Yes, I did mention to
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Speaker 3: you that I threw the hotel room key on the table.
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Speaker 1: No wonder she left. Here comes a white guy dressed
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Speaker 1: as a Confederate soldier. He tosses a hotel room key
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Speaker 1: on the dinner table.
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Don't you get it?
22:13
Speaker 3: You know something? I think you guys are the racists.
22:15
Speaker 3: I think you guys are the bigots. And I work
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Speaker 3: for the Republican Party. And right now, Bill Clinton gets
22:21
Speaker 3: more tail than he did before the impeachment started. And
22:24
Speaker 3: I haven't sniffed any... In about four years, my family
22:29
Speaker 3: fell apart.
22:30
Speaker 1: Well, if you're not getting laid, pardon me for saying so,
22:32
Speaker 1: it ain't my fault.
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Speaker 3: I blame the moderate wing of the Republican Party, sir.
22:41
Speaker 3: Don't try to skate out on this.
22:43
Speaker 2: What are you blaming the moderate wing of the Republican
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Speaker 2: Party for?
22:45
Speaker 3: That I haven't had normal relations with a woman in
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Speaker 3: four years.
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Speaker 6: You're just making my case with every word you say.
22:53
Speaker 6: People out there, please understand, this man is not the
22:56
Speaker 6: Republican Party.
22:57
Speaker 2: I don't think, yeah.
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Speaker 6: He's not the conservative wing of the Republican Party.
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Speaker 2: I agree. I think he's the nut wing of the.
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Speaker 3: Mr. Henry, be careful what you say, because all of
23:06
Speaker 3: these things are being recorded.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, for your call.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: You didn't tell me the part about how you met
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Speaker 1: her at a Red Lobster dressed in a Confederate uniform
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Speaker 1: and tossed the hotel key onto the table.
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Speaker 3: In other words, I'm supposed to tell you that, why?
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Speaker 1: Because I think it sounds just a little bit callous.
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Speaker 3: Phil, I am the president of the conservatives of Kern County.
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Speaker 3: I'm a loyal Republican. But that doesn't make me a racist.
23:32
Speaker 2: You just don't get it. All right.
23:34
Speaker 3: What am I not getting?
23:36
Speaker 2: Just never mind. Here is Lincoln on the Phil Henry Show.
23:38
Speaker 3: Hello.
23:39
Speaker 7: I've got to wait until your book comes out. You'll
23:43
Speaker 7: have to let me know, boy.
23:44
Speaker 3: You're quite the swinger. But anyway.
23:47
Speaker 7: I got a question here.
23:48
Speaker 3: That goes for humor and Lincoln? What you just said
23:51
Speaker 3: when the book comes out?
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Speaker 7: Well, yeah, throw the hotel key down at the Red Lobster.
23:55
Speaker 7: You are a stud muffin.
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Speaker 4: All right, sir.
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 2: Oh, he just hung up.
24:03
Speaker 3: Oh, good.
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Speaker 7: I got him to hang up.
24:05
Speaker 2: You got him to hang up.
24:06
Speaker 7: I'm very proud of that.
24:08
Speaker 3: Well, I.
24:08
Speaker 7: This guy is very strange.
24:10
Speaker 1: Did you have a comment you want to make? See
24:12
Speaker 1: if you can get him back on the line.
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Speaker 7: The best way he can help the Republican Party... is
24:17
Speaker 7: to register, become a Democrat. I hope he does that
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Speaker 7: because he has more to do with Democratic Party.
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Speaker 1: The guy asks a woman to the Red Lobster for dinner,
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Speaker 1: comes wheeling through the door wearing a Confederate uniform and
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Speaker 1: tosses a hook.
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Speaker 2: I mean, did he call back?
24:36
Speaker 7: I'll tell you, you know, I mean, I used to
24:39
Speaker 7: say antidepressants, and I think he would be a candidate
24:42
Speaker 7: for an antipsychotic.
24:43
Speaker 2: Hold on for a minute. Did he call back? Are
24:45
Speaker 2: you there, Larry? Larry, are you there?
24:49
Speaker 3: Mr. Henry, you sent me to Philadelphia to report on
24:51
Speaker 3: the Republican National Convention. I did not know that I
24:54
Speaker 3: would be subjected to personal assault and slander. I have
24:58
Speaker 3: tried to conduct myself above board on your program.
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Speaker 2: You're saying some things that are wacky, man. You're talking
25:03
Speaker 2: about blacks.
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Speaker 3: All right. Are you a Republican, sir?
25:07
Speaker 7: I am a diehard Republican.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Are you aware that Colin Powell, a known black,
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Speaker 3: was addressing the convention last night? Absolutely. And that's okay
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Speaker 3: with you.
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Speaker 7: A solid American. You're damn right it is.
25:19
Speaker 3: And you know what else? This party has changed. Yeah.
25:22
Speaker 7: I'm as conservative as they come. I am just what
25:25
Speaker 7: you call tolerant and decent. I don't believe in affirmative
25:29
Speaker 7: action for the same reasons you do.
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Speaker 3: And when you called me a stud muffin, you were joking, right?
25:34
Speaker 7: Hey, that's supposed to be a compliment.
25:36
Speaker 5: I mean, hey, you know.
25:37
Speaker 3: No, but Mr. Henry left, so you two guys were
25:39
Speaker 3: sharing some kind of a joke, weren't you?
25:41
Speaker 7: I want to know, did you happen to play the
25:42
Speaker 7: BG CD in your car when you were taking her
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Speaker 7: to the hotel?
25:45
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
25:48
Speaker 2: He hung up again.
25:49
Speaker 7: All right. Well, I accomplished something.
25:51
Speaker 2: Listen, thank you. Yeah, thank you for your call, sir.
25:53
Speaker 2: So what are we going to do?
25:54
Speaker 1: Are we going to play phone tag with this nutcase now?
25:58
Speaker 1: Did you happen to play the BG CD? Thank you
26:01
Speaker 1: very much.
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Speaker 2: Click. So we plan phone tag with this guy. Call
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Speaker 2: him back.
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Speaker 1: I do not want him hanging up one more time
26:07
Speaker 1: on my show, okay? Larry Grover from the Conservatives of
26:11
Speaker 1: Kern County is with us. Let's distill what he's saying
26:15
Speaker 1: so that we understand. He's saying that it's unusual in
26:20
Speaker 1: his experience to see an African-American addressing the Republican National Convention,
26:24
Speaker 1: number one. He also thinks it's unusual for the party
26:28
Speaker 1: to be that inclusive of homosexuals considering their family platform.
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Speaker 1: And I think he's saying that they're not loyal Republican voters,
26:36
Speaker 1: that they will turn and run to the Democratic side
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Speaker 1: of the ticket come November the 8th. But if he's
26:42
Speaker 1: saying that, then why not keep that from happening? Why
26:47
Speaker 1: not be as inclusive? Why not be as.
26:51
Speaker 2: Communicative?
26:52
Speaker 1: Why not interact and exchange ideas and make the African-American
26:57
Speaker 1: and the gay vote integral in terms of the issues
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Speaker 1: that concern them? and make that, Larry's back on the phone,
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Speaker 1: and make that a part of the party.
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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, Larry?
27:07
Speaker 3: Hold on for a minute, Phil. Wasn't that pretty? Wasn't
27:14
Speaker 3: that pretty?
27:15
Speaker 2: Did you hear one word that I said?
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Speaker 3: No, yeah, I heard it all. I heard your wonderful speech.
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Speaker 3: Wasn't that just pretty? All-inclusive, huh? And when the Democratic
27:26
Speaker 3: side of the.
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Speaker 2: If you're going to be sarcastic.
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Speaker 3: No, and when the Democrats win in November because all
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Speaker 3: of your little black friends and all your little gay friends,
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Speaker 3: all the little ones.
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Speaker 2: What, are they all midget blacks and gays?
27:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the little ones run off and vote for the.
27:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just see a herd of small black and
27:44
Speaker 1: gay people running over to the Democratic side.
27:45
Speaker 3: Right. Then you understand what I'm talking about. I know
27:49
Speaker 3: you want to make a joke out of this.
27:50
Speaker 1: No, you're the guy making a joke out of it.
27:53
Speaker 1: Here is Sherman Oaks on the Phil Henry Show.
27:54
Speaker 3: Hello.
27:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, Larry and Phil.
27:58
Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
28:00
Speaker 5: I find this conversation overwhelming. I'm 53 years old. I'm
28:04
Speaker 5: a Vietnam vet. I fought behind side-by-side with great African-Americans, Hispanics,
28:10
Speaker 5: and I think, Larry, that I appreciate and applaud the
28:15
Speaker 5: work you did to get Clinton out, but unfortunately this
28:18
Speaker 5: show has a far stretch across America Los Angeles. And I, too,
28:22
Speaker 5: would like that tape, because I would... And I'll give
28:26
Speaker 5: it to the... If I can get a tape, I'll
28:28
Speaker 5: pay for it. I'll personally get it to George W.
28:30
Speaker 3: Bush.
28:31
Speaker 5: I've got the power to do it. And I think
28:33
Speaker 5: that any Republican would want you exposed for the Republican Party.
28:38
Speaker 3: And I would not... And by the way, sir, let me...
28:40
Speaker 3: I listen to you, sir.
28:42
Speaker 2: I listen to you, sir.
28:44
Speaker 5: I would not wish the Democratic Party or any other party...
28:48
Speaker 5: to accept you in, because I'll tell you what, the
28:50
Speaker 5: Democrats would not want you in their party either, sir,
28:53
Speaker 5: nor would any other party. Possibly the Communist Party, sir.
28:58
Speaker 3: The Communist Party, huh? I worked on behalf of this
29:01
Speaker 3: country and you call me a communist?
29:03
Speaker 5: Well, sir, you were sitting there trying to divide what
29:06
Speaker 5: we're trying to repair.
29:07
Speaker 3: And I don't understand that. For four years, I gave
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Speaker 3: up my family, I lost my wife and kids, I
29:13
Speaker 3: haven't had sex with a woman.
29:15
Speaker 5: Well, did you date that woman for six months? What
29:18
Speaker 5: did you guys do? Just pass the plates back and forth?
29:23
Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying. I was trying. I don't know what
29:26
Speaker 3: I did wrong.
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Speaker 5: You showed up. Sir, you had one experience with a
29:30
Speaker 5: black woman, one experience with a gay banker, and all
29:34
Speaker 5: of a sudden because for some reason, whether it was
29:36
Speaker 5: your credit or anything else, you didn't get it. You're
29:38
Speaker 5: blaming all of the gays.
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Speaker 6: All of the blacks.
29:41
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Larry... Well, my credit. Come on,
29:43
Speaker 3: that's a bunch of baloney, my credit.
29:45
Speaker 5: Again, I applaud the work you did to get Clinton out.
29:47
Speaker 3: My credit's fantastic.
29:49
Speaker 5: But the other comments, you have driven... Let me ask
29:53
Speaker 5: you a question.
29:55
Speaker 3: You're dating a young African-American female, age 25. You have
29:59
Speaker 3: certain interests. They happen to be Civil War reenactments. You
30:03
Speaker 3: show up at her house, where her family is, wearing
30:06
Speaker 3: the uniform of... Okay, I'm wearing the uniform of Robert E. Lee.
30:11
Speaker 3: Is that any reason to get upset?
30:15
Speaker 5: I don't find... You know, I don't think that's... Big deal.
30:18
Speaker 5: I don't think that's... I really don't think that's a
30:21
Speaker 5: big deal.
30:21
Speaker 3: There you go. That's what I'm saying.
30:23
Speaker 5: But hold it, hold it. That's not the issue here.
30:26
Speaker 5: What is the issue, forget the uniform.
30:29
Speaker 3: And you know what, sir?
30:30
Speaker 5: Forget the young lady and forget the black banker for
30:33
Speaker 5: a second.
30:33
Speaker 3: The gay banker.
30:35
Speaker 5: You take all the people, you take one example, and
30:38
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I'm Armenian, and if I did
30:41
Speaker 5: something to you and stepped on your toe, are you
30:43
Speaker 5: going to say that all Armenians are bad?
30:46
Speaker 3: Well, I guess not.
30:46
Speaker 5: Sir, that's exactly what you've done. And I just find
30:51
Speaker 5: it appalling that you've given up all this. You've lost
30:54
Speaker 5: your money. You've lost your family. And by these comments,
30:57
Speaker 5: if somebody was on the fence, and as the president
31:01
Speaker 5: of Kern County Republicans, I mean, you sit there in
31:05
Speaker 5: a very high position, a position of esteem, and you
31:09
Speaker 5: sit there. I'd like to know how many people in
31:10
Speaker 5: the Kern County Republicans share your views. And I bet
31:16
Speaker 5: you the number is zero. And if it's zero, it
31:19
Speaker 5: may not... There may be one or two like you, sir.
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys a question. Go ahead, sir.
31:25
Speaker 3: I got a Confederate flag hanging in my living room.
31:28
Speaker 3: I guess I bought it with that, huh? Well, I
31:30
Speaker 3: brought it home. So what?
31:32
Speaker 5: That's fine. You've got every right to have anything you
31:36
Speaker 5: want in your house.
31:37
Speaker 1: And you have a young black lady coming into your
31:38
Speaker 1: living room with a Confederate flag hanging there?
31:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, why wouldn't she go to bed with me?
31:42
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, man. It just must be she
31:46
Speaker 2: must hate white people.
31:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Mr.
31:49
Speaker 5: Henry, I've got a question for you, sir.
31:50
Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
31:52
Speaker 5: This is a very important convention.
31:56
Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
31:56
Speaker 5: I'd like to know why, sir. And I listened to
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Speaker 5: you a little bit yesterday. I'd like to know why
32:02
Speaker 5: you have given this gentleman this much time when there
32:04
Speaker 5: are some really important issues to discuss. Did he leave
32:08
Speaker 5: us again?
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Speaker 2: Hold on. Larry, are you there? He hung up again.
32:12
Speaker 3: Well, I know he should.
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Speaker 2: What was your question again, sir?
32:16
Speaker 5: My question is directed towards you. Obviously, with KFO, it's
32:20
Speaker 5: the most important station with great reach.
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 5: Why would you give some wacko like this this much time?
32:25
Speaker 5: Because another gentleman asked the question. It's almost like you're
32:29
Speaker 5: trying to insult the Republican Party. And maybe five minutes
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Speaker 5: of this guy might have been humorous, but, you know...
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Speaker 5: I think you've gone way on too long with this guy.
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Speaker 5: There's got to be a lot of interesting people back there, sir,
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Speaker 5: that you could talk to. I'm not your program manager.
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Speaker 2: No, I know.
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Speaker 5: You have your own show.
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Speaker 2: You're right.
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Speaker 5: But surely there must be some really interesting people back
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Speaker 5: there that don't make Republicans look like jerks. But at
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Speaker 5: any rate, listen, I'm sure there's a lot of other callers.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's okay. It's all right. I apologize.
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Speaker 2: I just want you to know I'm sorry. Well, that's okay, but...
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Speaker 2: Do you hear me when... Are you hearing? Are you
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Speaker 2: getting that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: All right, sir.
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Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. Have a good day. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Are you leaving now? Okay, I guess he left. Hey, boy.
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