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- 0:00Speaker 1: Muna's Ancient Community Development Council in both Philam and Focus
- 0:06mondays of twelve million right here on h Helvy Radio.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Them have with Pasa in Lahad and welcome to phil
- 0:17in Focus brought to you by the Asian Community Development
- 0:20Council or ACBC. Here we explore the important issues, challenges
- 0:26and opportunities impacting Filipino Americans as well as the wider
- 0:30Asian American and Pacific Islander community. Acopo a host Ado
- 0:35Vicelano and I am happy to welcome you to today's conversation.
- 0:40So mayon, we will be diving into a critical and
- 0:44often overlook topic, responsible gaming, with a very special guest.
- 0:49So joining us is Karenine Le Jugan, the director of
- 0:53Responsible Gaming Program at Caesar's Entertainment. Caroline also serves as
- 0:59a Vice president of the Board of Directors for the
- 1:02Nevada Council on Program Problem Gampling and as a board
- 1:06member at the Asian Community Development Council. So with deep
- 1:11experience in both gaming operations and community wellness, karenin plays
- 1:15a key role in promoting a safe and informed gaming environment.
- 1:20Touch us with Caesar's Enter Caesar's Ballace, but across our
- 1:25wider community. So again, thank you Karenen for being here.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Thank you Guyce for having me. I'm excited about this.
- 1:33I'm excited interviewing you. But let's start with your role.
- 1:37You're the director of.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Responsible Gaming at Caesar's Entertainment.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Yes, i am. You know, I've been with the company
- 1:45now for twenty five years, and my majority of my
- 1:49tenure there has been assisting with ensuring that we have
- 1:52a responsible gaming program, ensuring that we you know, we
- 1:57ensure that our standards are implemented across the company, which
- 2:02includes fifty five properties across the US, one in Canada
- 2:06it's called Caesars Windsor, and also on our online gaming
- 2:10platforms as well.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Wow, it's so amazing, like huge, huge responsibility.
- 2:15Speaker 1: It sure is, But you mentioned that, so your role.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Is all about also balance is not making sure that
- 2:20there's a balance of xcitement as well as a commitment
- 2:24to ensuring the guests have an experience, yes, and also
- 2:30having a responsibility for the community.
- 2:33Speaker 1: We sure do. We want every visitor that comes to
- 2:37a Caesar's property, which includes our famous world you know,
- 2:40worldwide properties here in Las Vegas, the opportunity to visit us.
- 2:44We want them to enjoy. Our hospitality amenities are you know,
- 2:50chef inspired, celebrity restaurants, the shows you know we have
- 2:55Kelly Clarkson happening at the Coliseum at Caesars Palace, we
- 3:00have shows over a planet Hollywood. And our business also
- 3:04is includes entertainment, which is gambling. So we offer a
- 3:08wide array of hospitality amenities. Gambling is one of.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Them, and gambling is also that's fascinating and gambling is
- 3:17also a common social activity among the A NHBI communities.
- 3:21But it can also bring some risk. So that's why
- 3:25your company is promoting responsible gaming and awareness. So it's
- 3:30important to really help everyone to do play safe and
- 3:34support if needed. So from a broader perspective, how does
- 3:38Sezars approach responsible gaming as part of its mission.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Well, first of all, it has to start with training
- 3:44with our team members. So one of our initiatives is
- 3:47to ensure that all team members who are employed by
- 3:50Caesars Entertainment receives responsible gaining education and awareness training. What
- 3:56is responsible gaming, what is problem gambling and how do
- 4:01we approach it. If we identify that one of our
- 4:03customers may be having an issue, right, we don't want
- 4:06our team members to sweep a problem under the rug.
- 4:09We want them to address it. So through training, we
- 4:13empower them to report commons or statements that are made
- 4:17by our customers, whether it be on person or online
- 4:20through chat or text.
- 4:21Speaker 2: I see, and it's actually Responsible Gaming Education month.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Yes, it is. The entire month of September is Responsible
- 4:29Gaming Education Month. We have our gaming operator friends throughout
- 4:34the country that talks about, you know, all their responsible
- 4:37gaming work that they do and the training that they
- 4:40also provide to their team members.
- 4:42Speaker 2: So it's a perfect time also to talk about it
- 4:45to raise awareness and in practice you mentioned earlier is
- 4:49making sure you prepare your staff for for providing information
- 4:55as being the will act well to the to your customers. Yes,
- 5:01and can you tell more about the initiatives that Caesars
- 5:05has implemented to foster responsible gaming?
- 5:08Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure. So you know, when our customer, when our
- 5:10team members are on the gaming floor, you know, we
- 5:13want to provide the gold standard customer service. But when
- 5:16it comes down to gambling and we hear a customer
- 5:20make a statement or comment like you know, I'm gambling
- 5:23my mortgage money away or my wife, you know it's
- 5:26going to be upset at me, or you know, a
- 5:28family member will be upset at me because I spend
- 5:30all our money so we can't buy food or we
- 5:33can't buy gas for the car. Those are triggering statements
- 5:37that our team members are listening for, and if they
- 5:41hear a statement or comment that concerns them, they will
- 5:44report it to their supervisor. Oh wow, yeah, so they'll
- 5:47report it to their supervisor. And we have skilled supervisors
- 5:51and managers who we refer to as responsible gaming ambassadors,
- 5:56and that responsible gaming ambassador will then have a conversation
- 6:00with that one individual or that one guest or that
- 6:02family friend or that family member.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Oh that's excellent to know. So you're providing your team
- 6:08members to have that, giving them tools to be able
- 6:12to have to identify those signs as well as with
- 6:17the guests, you're providing them tools. Do will have more
- 6:20maybe informed.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Choices exactly exactly informed choices, such as setting a budget
- 6:25when you gamble, you know, setting a time limit at
- 6:28the casino or online, setting a deposit limit online as well.
- 6:33You know, online gamling has become more prevalent. It's become
- 6:36more popular amongst the you know, younger generation because you know,
- 6:41your mobile phone is everything today, right, and there's so
- 6:44many sports matting applications that people can access throughout the country.
- 6:49You know, they need to be aware of the responsible
- 6:51gaming tools that are available to them. We want them
- 6:54to enjoy those online gamling products, but if they identify
- 6:57with having a problem, what powers them to set those
- 7:01card rolls up for them through online gambling.
- 7:04Speaker 2: And having those bad boundaries and exactly. It's interesting that
- 7:08you mentioned that it's we have a growing number with
- 7:10a problem with the youth, because of course, I mean
- 7:14there's a stereotype that mostly the retired exactly community will
- 7:18be like more on the gambling, but there is also
- 7:21growing uh with the with increases with the youth. And
- 7:26you mentioned earlier is that there are some science but
- 7:29for our listeners who are less familiar, what are the
- 7:33other deltaing science tool that someone may be struggling.
- 7:38Speaker 1: With gambling finances? So that's a big, you know, big situation.
- 7:44You know, are they exceeding their limit when they're withdrawing
- 7:47money from you know the ATMs you know on the
- 7:50casino floor, right, you know, the capability to have a
- 7:55open communication with your friend or your spouse about your gambling,
- 8:01lying about where you are, you know, where are you
- 8:04after hours? You know, w are you at work? You know,
- 8:07And some people will say, you know, they were at
- 8:10some location when actually there were at you know, the casinos. Now,
- 8:14casino gambling is not bad, but when someone you know
- 8:18does have a problem with it, you know, we don't
- 8:20want them to be on our on our property, we
- 8:22don't want them to be at any gaming operation. So
- 8:25those are some of the signs, but particularly when they're
- 8:28making comments or statements, and it may also include a
- 8:32suicidal statement. You know, I'm gonna, you know, hurt myself
- 8:36because now I don't I've you know, gambled away all
- 8:39my money. I don't have any money. Those are so
- 8:42important because suicide is you know, one of those situations
- 8:47where a problem gambler, it's an idealistic situation. A lot
- 8:53of times they see their only way out, you know,
- 8:55through self harm, and we don't want that to ever happen.
- 8:59Speaker 2: It's unfortunately, and I'm glad we're having this conversation because
- 9:02it's really tough for someone to recognize those signs, especially
- 9:07on yourself or even on your loved one. So that's
- 9:11why having this having this conversation as well as having
- 9:18this month being responsible gaming education is very vital through
- 9:22ensure that our community is in formed. So if for
- 9:27our listeners, if you know anyone who may be struggling,
- 9:30reach out, help them, reach out for support, and and
- 9:33that I believe can make all the difference.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Sure can, yes.
- 9:37Speaker 2: And so if someone notices those signs in themselves or
- 9:41someone they care about, what resources are available that either
- 9:47czars or more broadly have.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I would recommend if you you know, identify with having
- 9:53a gambling problem or your family member or friend that
- 9:56you're concerned about for help resources, call the what eight
- 10:00hundred gambler number. It's a national number and it'll direct
- 10:04you to help resources anywhere in the country and you
- 10:09will be connected with your local treatment providers, problem gambling counselors,
- 10:18gambling anonym you know, a non gambler's anonymous like alcohol anonymous.
- 10:22There are groups throughout the country that have this fellowship
- 10:25in these meetings for people with problem gambling. Another great
- 10:29program is the Gamanon program for family and friends of
- 10:34the problem gambler. But you know, always start with contacting
- 10:38one eight hundred gambler.
- 10:39Speaker 2: I see, and then also beyond cesars like the organization
- 10:44Nevada Council Problem Gambling. It provides support and helplines.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Sure it sure does. Yes, Nevada Council on Problem Gambling
- 10:53is another great resource here in Nevada. The National Council
- 10:57on Problem Gambling is another great resource for people that
- 11:01want to learn more about problem gambling. You know, the
- 11:04signs and the symptoms and the you know, helpline numbers
- 11:08throughout the country and where to get help.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Are there also treatment options for those who are struggling.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Yes, there are treatment options. There are counselors that are
- 11:17readily available, you know, to have that counseling session. There's
- 11:22also some some places offer in treatment facilities or outpatient
- 11:27treatment as well.
- 11:29Speaker 2: I see, and then that's czars. If you see that
- 11:31the guests, you direct them towards those resources.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Yes, our Responsible Gaming Ambassadors will direct those individuals to
- 11:39the helpline number and then provide the local help resources
- 11:42that are available.
- 11:43Speaker 2: So it's amazing to know, yes, because not everybody knows
- 11:47about it that it's available, especially it's one of your initiatives.
- 11:51That's z RS. That's excellent to know. And then again
- 11:55the key is ready to reach out.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Reach out for help. Yes, please these Problem gambling is
- 12:02a diagnosable mental illness. Like any health issue, problem gambling
- 12:08is one of them diagnosable diagnosable and is stated in
- 12:12the DSM five. So please reach out for help. We
- 12:17want to break the stigma about problem gambling or being
- 12:20a problem gambler, you know, we want to normalize the
- 12:23conversation about problem gambling. A lot of you know, people,
- 12:27especially in the Asian American Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander community,
- 12:31they don't want to talk about problem gaming. It's you know,
- 12:34very shameful for themselves and then to the family. And
- 12:38we want to make sure that this stigma is broken.
- 12:41We don't want them to be labeled as a degenerate.
- 12:44That's the worst thing you can ever, you know, say
- 12:46to someone that you are a degenerate gambler.
- 12:49Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, and yeah, because there's a shame
- 12:53that is exactly yeah, connected to being a gambler or
- 12:57even let's say, in other like being alcoholic or anything.
- 13:02So it's really good to have this conversation and you
- 13:07clearly stated it earlier. Help is available, so reach out
- 13:11to available resources. And it sounds like really education and
- 13:16community engagement are the key pieces to solving or taking
- 13:22out the stigma.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Exactly, which is why I'm here and happy to be here,
- 13:26you know, to share this information with our community, right
- 13:29and to talk about it, and to share that there
- 13:32is help, there is hope. You know, never say there
- 13:36you know, no one can help me, because there is
- 13:38help for people with problem gambling.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Oh I love what you said. There is help and
- 13:42there is hope. Oh that's amazing. Yes, there is chill.
- 13:47That's something that we should tweet about. And there is hope.
- 13:54But then, like what you said, that community awareness is
- 13:58vital really in reducing that stigma and encourages also an
- 14:04early intervention.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Yes, it sure does, and that's where we you know,
- 14:09the company, our company comes in as far as the
- 14:13preventive measures. You know, before you even gamble, set a budget,
- 14:18set a time limit, ensure that you're visiting a casino
- 14:21for entertainment purposes, you know, have fun, go there to socialize,
- 14:26to meet people, watch the show, enjoy the restaurants, you know,
- 14:29if you're able to do that. But yeah, if you're
- 14:32going to the casino to chase your losses or if
- 14:36you're depressed and the casino's like one of the places
- 14:39that you like to go. We don't encourage that by
- 14:41any means. You know, talk to someone, talk to someone,
- 14:44talk to someone and get help.
- 14:47Speaker 2: And then I mean casinos and gambling is also meant
- 14:50to be a fun activity. So I mean, like what
- 14:56you said, set limits, because I remember, if I play
- 14:59the mach twenty dollars, that's it. Even if I win,
- 15:05I set the boundary, like, I'm okay. If I win
- 15:08at the five dollars, that's it. But if I lose, okay,
- 15:12I've already spent twenty dollars.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I'm okay, Yes, yes, yes, set set of budget and advice.
- 15:18I just want to say, not everyone is a problem gambler.
- 15:21According to studies, one to two percent of the adult
- 15:24population here in the United States, you know, identify with
- 15:28a gambling problem. So ninety percent of the population gamble
- 15:33with no issues. It's just the one to two percent.
- 15:36Speaker 2: I see, Okay, And then where shift you shifted towards
- 15:41empowerment power empowerment earlier? So aside from setting limits, what
- 15:46other advice can you give our community and also to
- 15:52be responsible in gambling?
- 15:55Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know advice that I would I
- 15:58would always share with you know, my family and my
- 16:01friends is gambling is a form of entertainment, you know,
- 16:06you know, enjoy the atmosphere, Enjoy you know, watching people
- 16:10when you go there. Enjoy the new machines that are
- 16:14being created by a lot of the gaming manufacturers. I
- 16:16mean a lot of them are fun. But do it
- 16:19within limits. Always set a budget, always, you know, set
- 16:22a limit, you know, to how long you're going to
- 16:25be at the casino. You know how often you're going
- 16:27to be there. Always, like anything else, set your guard
- 16:31with guardrails in and always, you know, just be mindful
- 16:35about your play, mindful about the time you spend at
- 16:38the casinos.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Just be mindful. Yes, have fun, but be mindful. And
- 16:44before you wrap up, I mean twenty five years when Caesars,
- 16:48I last.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Twenty five years, it's amazing, it's amazing. You know, I've
- 16:54learned a lot, I've grown professionally a lot. My twenty
- 16:57five years tenure at Caesars Entertainment been a great company
- 17:00for me. I do love what you know, job that
- 17:05I work with my team members, people in the community
- 17:08about responsible gaming. You know, I've been personally involved with
- 17:14family members who have experienced problem gambling, and I'm happy
- 17:17to you know, share the resources with them as well.
- 17:20And I've seen a lot of people here in Las
- 17:22Vegas relocate from Hawaii, where I'm originally from, only to
- 17:26get caught up, you know, in this situation with problem
- 17:30gambling and having to leave because they can't, you know,
- 17:33be in a community where gambling is provided.
- 17:38Speaker 2: But can you share a success story that maybe a
- 17:42time when responsible education made a meaningful impact?
- 17:47Speaker 1: I would say, you know, at Users Entertainment, we conduct
- 17:50employee surveys annually, and whenever we conduct these employee surveys,
- 17:57I am always proud to see that that Caesar's promoting
- 18:01responsible gaming receives the highest rating amongst our team members.
- 18:07And you know that tells me they trust the company
- 18:12to ensure that the customers that are visiting our properties
- 18:15are doing so for the right reason, which is to
- 18:18have fun. And you know, my success story is my
- 18:22team members, you know, having the power or being empowered
- 18:27to say something if they feel a customer of theirs,
- 18:31you know, you know, are in trouble. Yes, so that's
- 18:35my story. I mean we you know, eighteen thousand team
- 18:39members took the survey this year. It's called all In
- 18:42We Win Survey and eighty six percent of our team
- 18:45members identified that we continuously promote responsible gaming at our company.
- 18:51Speaker 2: And it's excellent, truly inspiring. I mean, you're not only
- 18:54empowering you know, our committee members to play responsibly, but
- 18:59also within your our organization, and you're ensuring that the
- 19:03team members are really empowered to speak up when they
- 19:06see something they have to say something. Yes, and then
- 19:09make sure the guest is safe.
- 19:11Speaker 1: Yes, make sure the guest is there for one reason,
- 19:14entertainment purposes. If you feel that there's a concern, team
- 19:18members you know, are empowered to again let their supervisors know. Okay,
- 19:22so that's my success story and I'm going to continue
- 19:26with the story and narrative as long as i'm you know,
- 19:29empowered to do so as well.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Yes, well, thank you for sharing your success story. And
- 19:33I'm sure your team members are very lucky to have
- 19:36you as a boss supporting them.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Yeah, and you thank you so much.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Advice for having me any final final advice to any Yeah,
- 19:48I do.
- 19:49Speaker 1: I always want to emphasize and remind people again there's
- 19:53help and hope, you know for problem gambers. You know,
- 19:56if you're if you a friend or a family member,
- 19:59is experience and seeing a gambling problem, you please contact
- 20:02one eight hundred Gambler that's the national Problem Gambling Helpline
- 20:06number for help resources. I mean, come visit our properties,
- 20:10make sure you're having fun, but if there's an issue,
- 20:12you know, say something, our team members will gladly provide
- 20:16you with the help resources available.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Excellent. Well, thank you Caroline for all the work that
- 20:21you do and your insights today as well as you
- 20:24know supporting a CDC.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my pleasure and you know, I
- 20:28just want to remind everyone it's Responsible Gaming Education month,
- 20:31so look out for those help resources and happy to
- 20:34be here everyone. Please take care.
- 20:36Speaker 2: All right and to our filam in focus listeners remember
- 20:40gaming should always be fun and say so. If you
- 20:43or someone you know may be struggling, help is available
- 20:46and you're not alone. As Caroline said, if there is help,
- 20:49there is hope. So thank you for tuning in to
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