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Mysonne responds to Jay-Z's Target freestyle, plus Lettuce Contamination scandal · TMI

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Speaker 2: How you feeling today?
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Speaker 1: All as well? All as well?
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Speaker 2: Travel?
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Speaker 3: Travel has been a nightmare, though I can say it's
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Speaker 3: been really really bad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, we have to admit that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everything is canceled.
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Speaker 2: That's your flight after cancel flight.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I'd rather, I'd rather everything be canceled
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Speaker 3: than for the airlines to try to push through dangerous situations.
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Speaker 3: So I guess, you know, we constantly remind ourselves of that.
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Speaker 3: But I think it's the way that they do things
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Speaker 3: sometimes where they have people just sitting around the airport
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Speaker 3: for seven, eight hours, ten hours and then you know,
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Speaker 3: find eventually canceling flights. I think decisions have to be made,
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Speaker 3: you know, in different some some something has to be
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Speaker 3: different in terms of how the rollout happens for this stuff.
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Speaker 3: Because I you know, I personally am I'm one. I'm
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Speaker 3: one of those people who has sat in the airport
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Speaker 3: this past week, or well, let me let me go
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Speaker 3: backwards and say that. Interestingly enough, when I was leaving
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Speaker 3: a recent trip on from Barbados, they did do something
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Speaker 3: a little bit different where they kept scent updating the
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Speaker 3: time so that you would know that the flight was delayed, delayed, delayed,
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Speaker 3: and they gave you the ability to check to see
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Speaker 3: where your plane was, so you knew that the plane
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Speaker 3: that they were using was not even position to you know,
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Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna get it couldn't get to you, you
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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, to take off because it's in
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Speaker 3: the air somewhere, or it's still parked in La.
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Speaker 1: Guardia, it hasn't left yet.
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Speaker 3: So there was enough information for us not to run
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Speaker 3: to the airport and be there five hours, six hours,
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Speaker 3: and seven hours. But other airlines didn't do that. They
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Speaker 3: had people nine hours at the airport and then it
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Speaker 3: was it just was canceled. So I just feel like
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Speaker 3: for the mental stability and just the you know, the
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Speaker 3: comfort of the consumer, there has to be a better
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Speaker 3: way to go about informing people so that they're not
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Speaker 3: just sitting in one place for you know, too long
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Speaker 3: without a lot of these airports, they don't always have
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Speaker 3: certain food options, especially if you were in the small
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Speaker 3: ones then they closed down. I mean, it's just it
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Speaker 3: just gets to be ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, it's the fact that there's
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Speaker 2: not enough in advance, like what you're saying, Like for me,
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Speaker 2: it's like you're saying that they're giving you updates about
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Speaker 2: the plane now, but or it's two advents. It's like
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Speaker 2: they cancel the flight on Monday and then push it
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Speaker 2: to Tuesday night, right, where are all the flights in between? Like,
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Speaker 2: so there's no there's no makeup flight in between cause
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Speaker 2: there's nothing that's going on between then. And then by
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Speaker 2: the time you get to Tuesday night and now they're
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Speaker 2: saying it's raining so you can't take the flight, and
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Speaker 2: they cancel that flight. So it's like for me, like,
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Speaker 2: why aren't there enough flights that you can say, Okay,
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Speaker 2: we're not able to make this flight at seven am,
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Speaker 2: but maybe we'll have one at three or four. Maybe
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Speaker 2: maybe we'll add another flight because we know that we're inconvenienced,
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Speaker 2: and it's hundreds of people that probably are not getting
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Speaker 2: to where they need to go. Like I don't I
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Speaker 2: don't think that they care enough about you know, the
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Speaker 2: people that's just flying these planes. I don't think they
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Speaker 2: care now. I think they just like and they charge
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Speaker 2: you out the wazoo. So it's like for me, it's
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Speaker 2: like they charge you all this money and then they
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Speaker 2: just canceling fights and it's like, all right, fuck it,
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Speaker 2: you just gotta deal with and we don't care about
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Speaker 2: your inconvenience. And it's like to me, that's crazy to me.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, just to be clear, they would
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Speaker 3: say the airlines would say that the big problem here is, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, shortage of workers.
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Speaker 3: Short you know, you have the issues with TSA, you
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Speaker 3: have the issues with the FAA and all of the
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Speaker 3: different entities that it takes to move planes in and
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Speaker 3: out of the airspace. And you know, even with people
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Speaker 3: working in the airlines like literal airline. I don't know
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Speaker 3: if they call stewardess anymore, but airline, I mean what
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Speaker 3: you call the flight attendance, all of that, even pilots,
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Speaker 3: I mean, they they'll say that the workforce is strained.
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Speaker 3: And I mean recently we saw that the CEO of
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Speaker 3: Delta made statements that you know, the company was not
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Speaker 3: going to change their prices because Delta is sky high.
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Speaker 3: I mean, as you said, their prices right now are
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Speaker 3: absolutely outrageous. You can't even used to be able to
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Speaker 3: get to Atlanta. You could get a little two hundred
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Speaker 3: and eighty nine dollars ticket three twenty nine. Now every
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Speaker 3: time I check is four six, you know, one thousand
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Speaker 3: dollars sometimes for a ticket to Atlanta, especially if you're
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Speaker 3: trying to go out of LaGuardia, you might be able
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Speaker 3: to get something cheaper at JFK or and maybe do work.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's really out of control. And he's saying
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Speaker 3: that even though the fuel prices are coming down, that
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Speaker 3: the airline has taken such a significant hit that they
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Speaker 3: will not be reducing their prices anytime soon.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: The thing about that is, if you remember when Pete
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Speaker 3: Budajig was the head of transportation for the federal government
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Speaker 3: Secretary of Transportation, he had started really sanctioning and monitoring
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Speaker 3: what these airlines were doing. He came up with, you know,
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Speaker 3: the oh, I don't know if he came up with it,
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Speaker 3: but I know that they all had to adhere to
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Speaker 3: the twenty minute rule. If your bags don't come out
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Speaker 3: in twenty minutes. Then you could receive you know, some
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Speaker 3: type of whatever something. I don't know if it's a
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Speaker 3: credit or cash. I'm not sure exactly what it was,
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Speaker 3: but you could receive some type of compensation for the
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Speaker 3: laid bags and you know they had other things. If
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Speaker 3: you are, you know, if the flight's a delayed X
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Speaker 3: amount of times you waiting to airport this amount of time.
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Speaker 1: And when Trump came in, they reversed all of that stuff.
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Speaker 3: So the CEO of Delta has nothing to worry about
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Speaker 3: because the government up in their attempt to apply capitalism
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Speaker 3: in it's its most raw form, this extortion. Yeah, that
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Speaker 3: they're not even that they're not, and what they're doing
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Speaker 3: is ultimately separating the people who have from the people
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Speaker 3: who don't have as much.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but and I don't I don't think
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Speaker 2: it's a I don't think it's a good strategy, you know,
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Speaker 2: because people are gonna choose, you know, their bills over traveling.
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Speaker 2: You know, people are gonna take less trips, you know
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Speaker 2: where it could like you said, when you could have
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Speaker 2: just got up in the minutes of the day, I
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Speaker 2: give me a little three hundred dollars fight to go
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Speaker 2: to there, lant let me get on that, let me
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Speaker 2: get this little two hundred all of fight you might
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Speaker 2: have traveled. Now people will say, man, look i'm gonna
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Speaker 2: go to Atlantic City. I'm gonna go get on the
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Speaker 2: train somewhere I can get on the train. I think
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Speaker 2: the train is gonna benefit more because people are gonna
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Speaker 2: try to start getting closer and take and playing less.
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Speaker 2: And it's just to me, it's just I don't see
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Speaker 2: how it's a survive I mean, a sustainable strategy, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I think the planes are full.
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Speaker 3: The planes are full, So why would they think that,
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Speaker 3: you know, even though to your point, they don't have
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Speaker 3: as many flights in between the day, Like you can
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Speaker 3: tell that there's not as many flights flying out a
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Speaker 3: particular city. But what they're doing is just passing the
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Speaker 3: inconvenience that they may be feeling onto the consumer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what happens, and what happens when you
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Speaker 2: pass it on the consumer. At some point the consumer
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Speaker 2: can't consume, right because right now, at this point is
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Speaker 2: when people are really starting to notice that flights are
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Speaker 2: really just too expensive and people normally probably will travel,
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Speaker 2: it's gonna take less flights and it's gonna be you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, It's gonna be right now summertimes. Okay.
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Speaker 2: You know, people are already made their trips and you
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Speaker 2: know their plans. But people are gonna start making different plans,
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Speaker 2: you know, and especially when it's code, it's gonna be
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Speaker 2: a lot less traveling. People won't be like, nah, you know,
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Speaker 2: save my little coin, but it's not really worth it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, you know.
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Speaker 3: We say that, and then people just keep buying and
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Speaker 3: keep spuying. And that's that's where the problem comes in,
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Speaker 3: that at some point you have to actually stop buying,
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Speaker 3: because when you do that, you know that that's the
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Speaker 3: point when folks actually get the point. And until then,
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Speaker 3: I don't know. So it is what it is. You know,
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Speaker 3: money is tight everywhere, and to your point about you know,
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Speaker 3: people who will have to just stop spending, I mean
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Speaker 3: that is becoming more of a and more of a
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Speaker 3: reality in various places. So yeah, I mean, you know,
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Speaker 3: just as you said, eventually people are going to have
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Speaker 3: to stop spending because things are just so incredibly expensive.
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Speaker 3: And that really kind of brings me to my thought
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Speaker 3: of the day. You know, I was reading an article
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Speaker 3: where people were asking, you know, where are folks around
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Speaker 3: organizing for the midterm elections?
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Speaker 1: Like what exactly is happening? And I mean it was.
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Speaker 3: An article that really pretty much examined in previous midterms
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Speaker 3: the extensive outreach, grassroots outreach that some organizations were engaged in,
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Speaker 3: and it was just pretty much asking like where are
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Speaker 3: these orgs now and what's the plan for the midterms?
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Speaker 3: And I was thinking that the Trump administration they really
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Speaker 3: did take the years between his first presidency and then
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Speaker 3: of course through Joe Biden's presidency to the second Trump
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Speaker 3: election to really sit with a critical plan for how
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Speaker 3: to to disenfranchise voters and communities that they are targeting.
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Speaker 3: Because when you think about the way that they came
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Speaker 3: out with guns blazing from day one. They started out
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Speaker 3: as soon as they stepped into office with Elon Musk,
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Speaker 3: and they fired thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people.
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Speaker 1: From the federal government level.
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Speaker 3: Where you have people now, especially in Maryland, Virginia and
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Speaker 3: DC and that whole Beltway community that are really.
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Speaker 1: Really really stressed.
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Speaker 3: And when I say stressed, I mean not just like
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Speaker 3: mentally stressed, but their finances are stressed. Because the communities
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Speaker 3: are suffering from the loss of work. I had a
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Speaker 3: conversation with a person who organizes around work is right
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Speaker 3: down in that area, who said that the numbers are startling,
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Speaker 3: the amount of people who are not working. And we
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Speaker 3: know that the federal government was one of the largest
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Speaker 3: employers of black folks, so black folks and black women,
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Speaker 3: but black folks in general.
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Speaker 1: The majority of the jobs that.
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Speaker 3: Were secure for our communities, that helped us to build well,
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Speaker 3: to buy homes, to do all of that came from
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Speaker 3: the federal government. So they came straight in the door
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Speaker 3: firing thousands of people. And at the same time, and
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Speaker 3: the reason why I said on the federal level is
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Speaker 3: because at the same time, corporations took a page out
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Speaker 3: of the Elon musk Doge whatever it was called book,
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Speaker 3: and they started firing people as well. And where they
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Speaker 3: were able to do their best work quote end quote
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Speaker 3: was around diversity, equity, and inclusion. So they use that
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Speaker 3: as a way to get rid of, you know, a
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Speaker 3: swath of individuals who were working in semi senior level
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Speaker 3: positions at these corporations. Then they did it in education,
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Speaker 3: they closed departments, they shrunk administrations within colleges, and other institutions.
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Speaker 1: Put people out of work.
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Speaker 3: You're talking at least a million black women and black
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Speaker 3: men right behind us, and to some degree other communities,
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Speaker 3: but no community has been impacted in the same ways
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Speaker 3: in which our community has been. And what happens when
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Speaker 3: you have all of these different institutions, whether it be
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Speaker 3: colleges and or corporations, and to some extent different positions
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Speaker 3: in the federal government, when people are not working or
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Speaker 3: they don't have resources from you know, from in other words,
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Speaker 3: colleges hiring people to speak new partnerships, especially when you're
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Speaker 3: talking about departments diversity, equity and inclusion, departments that focused
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Speaker 3: on race relations, that focused on a history that addresses
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Speaker 3: racial issues. When you cut those things, then you cut
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Speaker 3: people from being able to go to those colleges to
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Speaker 3: speak to students. Now, don't forget that they already started
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Speaker 3: the attack on education and trying to limit the amount
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Speaker 3: of information we all, including white and every other racial group,
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Speaker 3: had the access that we have to America's true history
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Speaker 3: in terms of what it has done, the crimes of
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Speaker 3: this nation, and what it has done to other communities,
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Speaker 3: and also the resilience of other communities and how people
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Speaker 3: have been able to fight back into become successful despite
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Speaker 3: America's you know, America's constant barrage of oppression, suppression, and
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Speaker 3: all the other things that we experience here as vulnerable people.
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Speaker 3: So when you put all of that together in a
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Speaker 3: framework that is the Project twenty twenty five idea that
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Speaker 3: we're going to restore America to mainly white male and
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Speaker 3: white women with white children, and then the white woman
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Speaker 3: is even subservient. Now you have created a scenario which
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Speaker 3: they are very happy with, that has disenfranchised people. And therefore,
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Speaker 3: when you start saying, well why aren't people out here
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Speaker 3: as much organizing, there are no resources. They have cut
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Speaker 3: the pipeline of funding off by making sure that institutions, corporations,
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Speaker 3: and otherwise no longer see the issues that they had
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Speaker 3: been funding as being priority to them, and those and
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Speaker 3: those funding networks that our tax payer dollars and are
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Speaker 3: spending within these corporations. We're not asking for anything, you know,
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Speaker 3: out of what do people say, we're begging, we're looking
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Speaker 3: for handouts?
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Our money is.
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Speaker 3: Going into these areas and we should be able to
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Speaker 3: receive a benefit from it. So, you know, that's a
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Speaker 3: lot to be said, but people are there, the organizations
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Speaker 3: that I know, many of them doors are closing. I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna do a part two on this too, you know,
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Speaker 3: next week, and potentially have a guest on to talk
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Speaker 3: about how you have organizations closing. You have people who
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Speaker 3: have been out here doing work for a long time
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Speaker 3: and they're now having to take jobs and go into
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Speaker 3: places and spaces that silences their voices and have where
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Speaker 3: they're not able to stand and speak and fight and
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Speaker 3: organize in the ways in which they have in the
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Speaker 3: past because they don't have the resources to be able
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Speaker 3: to keep the lights on in their homes while doing so.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about, you know, lots of money.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about just having enough resources to keep the
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Speaker 3: lights on, to keep things functioning, to keep a cell
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Speaker 3: phone where the media can actually reach you, to have
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Speaker 3: a conversation about whatever issue you may be, you know, addressing.
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Speaker 2: It's it's it's a real serious situation. And it's like
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Speaker 2: you said, it's strategic and it's product project twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: five and when we look at it, and and that's
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Speaker 2: why I've always said, people always try to give me
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Speaker 2: these stats about how the benefits white women and all that,
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Speaker 2: And I said, when they when they start attacking the
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Speaker 2: they're not gonna fire white woman, right, They're not looking
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Speaker 2: when they start taking the they're not looking for white
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Speaker 2: women to remove from you know, the the the workplace.
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Speaker 2: So that's not who they're going after. You know, you
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Speaker 2: you can tell me who who gets hired more, but
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Speaker 2: I know who's gonna get fired the most. And that's
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Speaker 2: and it's a reflection it right now in this culture
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Speaker 2: we live in, and we just have to really really
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Speaker 2: think about how do we create structures so these things
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Speaker 2: don't happen? You know, like what is our strategy? Like
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Speaker 2: you're saying, we need to be out, But if you're
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Speaker 2: not funding, if you don't have a cell phone, right,
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Speaker 2: if you don't have basic necessities, if you can't pay
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Speaker 2: your bills, and you've got to figure out how do
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Speaker 2: you do those things? You know? And I understand now
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Speaker 2: when you look back at history and you look at
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Speaker 2: the activists and you look at the frontline leaders, there
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Speaker 2: was always certain people who funded the movement and they
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Speaker 2: understood the need to fund the movement. I think we're
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Speaker 2: in a time where they got strategic with Project twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five because what they've done is they've made the
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Speaker 2: movement damn they illegal. Like when you look at these
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Speaker 2: new people that they're calling what they get to call
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Speaker 2: terrorists and who they get to call anti American, it's
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Speaker 2: just people who don't agree with the way that this
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Speaker 2: this fascist government is running. And you you, you damn
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Speaker 2: near criminal for saying the word fascist, right, So they
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Speaker 2: know how, they know how to completely disenfranche our movement
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Speaker 2: because what they do is make they make the things
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Speaker 2: that we fight around, damn the illegal. They make it,
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Speaker 2: you know, third rail. And that's what they're doing at
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Speaker 2: this time. So what happens is it's no longer cool
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Speaker 2: to be someone who stands up and stands against the
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Speaker 2: things that are wrong with the government, you know, And
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Speaker 2: that's what they're doing right now. So we're in this
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Speaker 2: moment where you know, we're gonna have to have real
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Speaker 2: strong and tough skin. People are gonna have to you know,
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Speaker 2: grind and grind it out, especially if this is what
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Speaker 2: it if you're serious about, you know, being in this
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Speaker 2: movement and fighting for our people. But because they're intentionally
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Speaker 2: trying to wipe us out, you know, and they're doing
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Speaker 2: everything in their power, they're utilizing every tool in the
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Speaker 2: shed they're locking up. I just seen the thing where
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Speaker 2: they locked up activists and gave them fifty years for
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Speaker 2: protests and nothing for violence at all. You know, they're
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Speaker 2: labeling organizations who've done nothing violent as terrorists. Like it's
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Speaker 2: just it's a very surreal and real time that you
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Speaker 2: have to really make real decisions. You know, before you
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Speaker 2: knew you might get arrested, you know, but you knew
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Speaker 2: that there was some level of legality, right, there was
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Speaker 2: some level of some of the legal system that actually
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Speaker 2: followed the Constitution. Now we have a government that is
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Speaker 2: actually trying to eliminate the constitution, take and make it
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Speaker 2: to where you don't even have rights. So it's dangerous,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's very dangerous, and I think you know
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Speaker 2: organized And what they also do is as they disenfranchise,
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Speaker 2: they make you figure out like, oh, I gotta do
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Speaker 2: I gotta survive for me, this organization over here, for them,
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Speaker 2: this organization here, we just got to figure out for
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Speaker 2: us and this and that, you know, instead of putting
21:17
Speaker 2: resources together and figure out, how do how do we
21:20
Speaker 2: move in unison? How do we completely combat this? You know,
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Speaker 2: everybody is scared, And then and then when you look
21:27
Speaker 2: just looking at the government right now, with the whole
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Speaker 2: especially in the Democratic Party, the way it's so divided,
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Speaker 2: right like, it's this, this is this is very strategic
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Speaker 2: and it's not by accident. And the voices that are
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Speaker 2: getting the loudest voice, you know. I was just listening
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Speaker 2: to somebody like Van Jones talked, and it's always disheartening
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Speaker 2: because you have smart, dumb people that speak and then
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Speaker 2: you listen to them and they make up shit, right,
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Speaker 2: they make they dog whistle and they make up these
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Speaker 2: lies about how you know, people are just anti this
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Speaker 2: and people want this, all of this to happen. And
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Speaker 2: these people are or devil worshiped all types shit did
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Speaker 2: they say to just be so off? And you're like, well,
22:17
Speaker 2: where did that come from? You know? And it never
22:20
Speaker 2: came from nowhere. So this is this is where we are.
22:22
Speaker 2: There's the rise of misinformation, there's the rise of you know, disenfranchisement,
22:28
Speaker 2: and all those things are to attack certain demographics and
22:31
Speaker 2: certain cultures.
22:35
Speaker 3: I was reading an AP story where they were talking
22:39
Speaker 3: about how nonprofits and this is true because I've been
22:43
Speaker 3: told the same thing that donors nonprofit leaders are telling
22:48
Speaker 3: them that and again, this is true, It's confirmed. I've
22:51
Speaker 3: heard it that donors are waiting to see waiting to
22:56
Speaker 3: see which I don't even know what that means, but
22:59
Speaker 3: they're waiting to see see how the economy and all
23:01
Speaker 3: the tax stuff and the political landscape, you know, which
23:05
Speaker 3: direction things going before they make any particular commitments. And
23:10
Speaker 3: so meanwhile, that just says that, you know, people think
23:14
Speaker 3: that we have time. I don't think that folks are
23:18
Speaker 3: as organized as I don't think that people in this
23:24
Speaker 3: high donor class are going to anytime soon return to
23:32
Speaker 3: the support that we need in order to organize our
23:35
Speaker 3: communities properly, and support that some of us may have
23:38
Speaker 3: been able to depend on in the past.
23:41
Speaker 1: You know, one thing I will say is that.
23:42
Speaker 3: Until Freedom has always had to struggle to raise money.
23:45
Speaker 1: We've never been in a position where.
23:48
Speaker 3: You know, ten twenty thirty million dollars is just flying
23:52
Speaker 3: through the door. We are always grappling and out here
23:56
Speaker 3: hustling to get the resources we need. We don't have
24:00
Speaker 3: overblown salaries, you know, we are. We try as an
24:04
Speaker 3: organization to be pretty modest in terms of how we're spending.
24:09
Speaker 3: You know, what we bring in and what we put
24:11
Speaker 3: out and we really do do our guests to take
24:15
Speaker 3: care of as many other people as possible, so you know,
24:21
Speaker 3: we we definitely are experiencing it as until freedom that
24:25
Speaker 3: there is you know, an absolute decrease in support. And
24:30
Speaker 3: I would just say that again That's why I said
24:32
Speaker 3: I'm going to do a part two on this next week,
24:34
Speaker 3: because I would say that if you are someone who's
24:38
Speaker 3: concerned about what's happening in this moment and where the
24:43
Speaker 3: organization is and like and or if you're an organiza
24:47
Speaker 3: you have an organization and you're trying to figure out,
24:50
Speaker 3: like what is the best way for us to move
24:53
Speaker 3: in light of you know, this this this divestment from
24:59
Speaker 3: our work. The best thing we can do is really
25:02
Speaker 3: get out there for small dollars, for small donations from
25:06
Speaker 3: everyday people. You got to knock on doors, You got
25:10
Speaker 3: to really get out there and figure out, you know,
25:14
Speaker 3: if there are ways to encourage the everyday person who
25:18
Speaker 3: cares about the concerns of our community to invest.
25:23
Speaker 1: And that's that's sort.
25:24
Speaker 3: Of where we are in this moment. Is really getting
25:28
Speaker 3: your businesses and you know, the people who you know,
25:34
Speaker 3: who you are somehow connected to, who have money and
25:37
Speaker 3: letting them know that the need is really serious, or
25:41
Speaker 3: else you're going to have more and more people who
25:43
Speaker 3: go inside of corporations if they can get in, or
25:47
Speaker 3: you know, go and work for different entities, whether it
25:51
Speaker 3: be transit or department or corrections or you know, different places.
25:57
Speaker 3: People are going to have to take their skills and
25:59
Speaker 3: go inside, and then there will be less and less
26:02
Speaker 3: folks out here to you know, speak on these issues.
26:06
Speaker 1: And so that's all I can say.
26:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, I guess that's what it is.
26:11
Speaker 2: It's gonna come down to really good like grassroots and
26:16
Speaker 2: getting those who actually to invest. You know what I'm saying,
26:20
Speaker 2: I don't really like the word donation, to invest in
26:24
Speaker 2: the work that each organization does and understand the need
26:29
Speaker 2: to keep them functioning. You know, it's gonna it's gonna
26:32
Speaker 2: really take that type of motto and strategy in these
26:37
Speaker 2: times until people start realizing, you know, to until it
26:42
Speaker 2: becomes cool or to you, they actually need you, until
26:45
Speaker 2: something happens and they need you to advocate for them,
26:48
Speaker 2: and they need you to be on the front line.
26:49
Speaker 2: They need you to do the work that you do.
26:52
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna it's gonna be just trying to
26:54
Speaker 2: stay above water. Man, it's got a doggy paddle, as
26:58
Speaker 2: they say.
26:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's a doggy battle.
27:01
Speaker 3: Now I feel like a little bit like it maybe
27:05
Speaker 3: it's us, maybe we're hypersensitive, but it seems like there's
27:09
Speaker 3: just so many things going on, and so sometimes I
27:12
Speaker 3: feel kind of crazy because I'm like, I know, people
27:15
Speaker 3: don't want to hear everything in a show where it's like, oh,
27:19
Speaker 3: we're going from the airlines are having issues to the
27:25
Speaker 3: funding for organizations is down, and then we turn right
27:29
Speaker 3: over to this topic, which is the contamination and food.
27:34
Speaker 3: Now I'm a little worried. And I always knew, and
27:40
Speaker 3: you know, I always basically know that our food system
27:43
Speaker 3: is poor and that we have significant issues around you know,
27:49
Speaker 3: around the America's regulation of food. But it's like, maybe
27:54
Speaker 3: it's just getting worse now. I really don't I'm a
27:57
Speaker 3: little I don't know, I don't know. I'm worried about
28:03
Speaker 3: the lettuce. When I saw the list of all the
28:06
Speaker 3: things that's going on, it's the lettuce, the berries, the
28:13
Speaker 3: packaged fruit, which is what a lot of people use
28:16
Speaker 3: for smoothies and all of that, you know, the taco
28:19
Speaker 3: bell lettuce. It's so many different layers of things that
28:26
Speaker 3: are going on. I'm a little concerned about, Like, you know,
28:31
Speaker 3: when you look around and you see that so many
28:33
Speaker 3: children are, you know, now being diagnosed with autism, it
28:42
Speaker 3: kind of feels like, yeah.
28:44
Speaker 1: Why not.
28:45
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't there be when we're living in a time
28:48
Speaker 3: where there's so many things that's contaminated.
28:52
Speaker 1: It's a little concerning.
28:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, you one hundred percent right this food and just
28:59
Speaker 2: do it. As you get old, you just get a
29:00
Speaker 2: lot more conscious of what you're eating. You're paying attention,
29:04
Speaker 2: you know, I'm reading labels, I'm doing research, and I'm
29:07
Speaker 2: noticing that a lot of the food that we eating
29:09
Speaker 2: is not even legal in other countries, Like we have
29:13
Speaker 2: one of the least healthy countries in the world. Like
29:16
Speaker 2: the FDA in America approves things that when you go
29:20
Speaker 2: to European countries they don't approve, you know, And I
29:24
Speaker 2: thought that's what Robert Kennedy was supposed to be over here.
29:27
Speaker 2: Do everybody's saying that he was this health person and
29:30
Speaker 2: he was supposed to be cracking down. I've heard a
29:33
Speaker 2: few things that he was supposed to be doing with food,
29:37
Speaker 2: you know, I don't really see a lot of activation.
29:39
Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of chemicals and foods that
29:44
Speaker 2: have been labeled as they're toxic not no longer available
29:49
Speaker 2: to us, right, I don't really see. I heard certain
29:51
Speaker 2: dyes and cereals and foods have supposedly been they supposed
29:56
Speaker 2: to be taken out, But I don't really see the
29:58
Speaker 2: you know, the real overhaul of the fake food. You know,
30:05
Speaker 2: there a lot of GMO, a lot of manufactured and
30:11
Speaker 2: farmed well they even here, they even got farmed fish down,
30:16
Speaker 2: you know, to where they're just creating our food and
30:20
Speaker 2: it's not even naturally being grown anymore. So, you know,
30:24
Speaker 2: and when you look at all the ailments that come
30:27
Speaker 2: like you said, autism can to you know, heart disease,
30:32
Speaker 2: liver disease, all of these things come from what we
30:35
Speaker 2: put into our body, and we and we're definitely on
30:39
Speaker 2: a high spectrum of all of those things, you know,
30:43
Speaker 2: when it comes to health ailments and issues that are
30:47
Speaker 2: plague in our society. So yeah, man, this like it's
30:51
Speaker 2: like you're right, man, If it ain't one thing, it's seven.
30:54
Speaker 1: I did a little bit of research like on this
30:56
Speaker 1: lettuce crisis. So okay.
30:58
Speaker 3: So a recent report says that the FDA's laboratory results
31:04
Speaker 3: have found that Tail of Farms, which is the largest
31:09
Speaker 3: distribute distributor of iceberg lettuce package lettuce, that they were
31:15
Speaker 3: positive for. I don't even want to mess it up,
31:18
Speaker 3: but I think it's like close spera anyway, I don't
31:22
Speaker 3: know the exact word, but the c y C l
31:24
Speaker 3: O s p O r A, which was resulting in
31:28
Speaker 3: very very severe diarrhea.
31:31
Speaker 1: And I've been and now I'm.
31:32
Speaker 3: Reading where people are vomiting, people are, you know, having
31:37
Speaker 3: very serious stomach pains, which is obviously linked with the diarrhea.
31:42
Speaker 3: And so they found that they had they had positive results.
31:46
Speaker 3: But then they have now come back and the FDA
31:49
Speaker 3: is said after further review of the results the testing
31:55
Speaker 3: results that they're not one hundred are saying now that
31:59
Speaker 3: it's a false positive. But then they're still saying at
32:02
Speaker 3: the same time that they haven't changed their position that
32:07
Speaker 3: the contamination came from Tail of Farms.
32:10
Speaker 1: So if it's a false positive, how do you how
32:13
Speaker 1: do you?
32:14
Speaker 3: And I know there's somebody out there who is brilliant
32:17
Speaker 3: about this issue who can speak to it and explain
32:21
Speaker 3: exactly how you're saying. On one hand that the contamination
32:24
Speaker 3: is likely from the same place. But on the other hand,
32:28
Speaker 3: saying we have a false positive now and of course
32:31
Speaker 3: these people Tail of Farms, maybe it's connected, maybe it's not,
32:36
Speaker 3: but they are very very very high level donors to
32:41
Speaker 3: MAGA and to Trump, and you know, and maybe that
32:45
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with the issue. I saw on
32:47
Speaker 3: social media people making the connection. But I will say,
32:51
Speaker 3: just because we want to be in full you know,
32:54
Speaker 3: truth and transparency to the extent that our research has
32:57
Speaker 3: shown us. They gave toms, gave money to Trump and
33:02
Speaker 3: MAGA million dollars in March, but the reporting of the
33:07
Speaker 3: the bad testing chain in May and then May, June
33:14
Speaker 3: and July, there have been different levels of reports out there,
33:19
Speaker 3: you know, saying that Tail of Farms is contaminated or
33:22
Speaker 3: that their lettuce is contaminated.
33:24
Speaker 1: How this now.
33:26
Speaker 3: Has spread to so many other fruits and vegetables and
33:30
Speaker 3: other things. Perhaps they're all coming out of Tail of Farms,
33:33
Speaker 3: which I only looked up the lettuce contamination. But it's
33:38
Speaker 3: very strange. So some people want to tie together that
33:42
Speaker 3: if he gave the money in March, that you know,
33:44
Speaker 3: later on in the summer time they may have reversed
33:49
Speaker 3: the statement of a positive test result just because of
33:54
Speaker 3: you know, the everything else they do is corrupt. But
33:57
Speaker 3: it may or may not be that. It may just
33:59
Speaker 3: be sort of coincidental.
34:03
Speaker 1: I don't know.
34:03
Speaker 3: It's very strange. All I do know is that people
34:06
Speaker 3: are actually very sick. I know somebody who was recently
34:10
Speaker 3: supposed to be on a trip and they were not
34:12
Speaker 3: able to make it because I think that they believe
34:15
Speaker 3: that they have the parasite. I haven't checked in to
34:17
Speaker 3: see what happened. I mean, this is now, this is
34:21
Speaker 3: very serious, and as it relates to as you were
34:24
Speaker 3: talking about what has happened with Robert Kennedy and his position.
34:32
Speaker 3: I did a little bit of research on that as well,
34:36
Speaker 3: and let me tell you what I have found. I
34:39
Speaker 3: will say just overall, it feels like Robert Kennedy is
34:46
Speaker 3: calling for things to happen.
34:50
Speaker 1: But whether or not any of these new.
34:56
Speaker 3: Statements have turned into actual pers policy, that's the thing
35:02
Speaker 3: that we've got to track down, because he's definitely made
35:07
Speaker 3: very serious statements about, as you said, the dye in foods.
35:12
Speaker 3: I think one of the most important things that Robert
35:14
Speaker 3: Kennedy wants to do is to eliminate the self affirm
35:19
Speaker 3: grass pathways, which is the generally recognized as safe passway pathway.
35:26
Speaker 3: So that means that a company can say, you know,
35:31
Speaker 3: we our ingredients are this, this, and this, and then
35:36
Speaker 3: once they give that self assessment of what ingredients they
35:39
Speaker 3: have and what their process of manufacturing is, then they're
35:44
Speaker 3: on a track that is pretty much self affirmed. And
35:48
Speaker 3: people just kind of take your word for it, you
35:50
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and they will, they will, they
35:53
Speaker 3: will just identify you as being generally considered safe.
36:00
Speaker 1: To me, that is a very dangerous.
36:02
Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't understand why that would be
36:05
Speaker 3: the case in the first place. You know, I would
36:08
Speaker 3: want there to be extensive testing of all of our
36:12
Speaker 3: school all of our food, and so if he's able
36:15
Speaker 3: to actually eliminate the grass which is generally recognized as
36:20
Speaker 3: safe pathway, I think that would be a big win,
36:25
Speaker 3: a big win.
36:26
Speaker 1: So we'll see.
36:26
Speaker 3: But he also is, you know, focused as you said,
36:28
Speaker 3: on synthetic food does and all of that, and he
36:31
Speaker 3: wants to create transparency tools for food and FDA process
36:37
Speaker 3: and so we will see. I would love to know
36:40
Speaker 3: where these things are in terms of it becoming one
36:44
Speaker 3: hundred percent policy that has to be followed because to date,
36:49
Speaker 3: what I know is the man is you know, is
36:52
Speaker 3: over here telling people they don't need the measles vaccination,
36:56
Speaker 3: and then you have more and more measles picking up.
36:58
Speaker 3: The cases of if not meaesel or infection, but people
37:02
Speaker 3: with measles has been increasing. You know, I don't know
37:06
Speaker 3: if anything that he's doing that has actually made our
37:10
Speaker 3: everyday lives better, I don't know, So you know, we'll
37:13
Speaker 3: I guess it's to be seen.
37:16
Speaker 2: So yeah, I totally agree. I definitely want to see
37:19
Speaker 2: where it is that he takes this. You know, I
37:23
Speaker 2: believe that we're in a real serious situation when we
37:28
Speaker 2: talk about because everybody is having real health issues and
37:32
Speaker 2: every day you turn around, there's a new food that's
37:35
Speaker 2: off the market. When we talk about this telepharm situation,
37:37
Speaker 2: it just looks fishy. It definitely looks fishy, you know,
37:41
Speaker 2: where you get donated. And then the just the wording
37:44
Speaker 2: of what they're saying. They're saying that that the outbreak,
37:48
Speaker 2: that they found out that it wasn't outbreak, but they
37:50
Speaker 2: still they're saying that it wasn't false positives, but they're
37:56
Speaker 2: still investigating it and they're not ruling it out, but
37:58
Speaker 2: it's a false positive. So what does that actually mean. Yeah,
38:02
Speaker 2: so you know this disadministration is from pay man. Like, listen, man,
38:11
Speaker 2: you paid the play here man whatever, you got a
38:13
Speaker 2: couple of dollars. That's what Boosie said. Look, man, I
38:17
Speaker 2: was supposed to pay for my part, and I gave
38:19
Speaker 2: these people this money. Everybody else need to be paying
38:22
Speaker 2: to get away. He didn't realize he didn't have the
38:25
Speaker 2: complexion for the protection.
38:29
Speaker 3: Bos he has, you know, consistently tried to turn me
38:34
Speaker 3: up to these folks. And it's a lot of people
38:37
Speaker 3: that just have not figured out yet how racist the
38:42
Speaker 3: administration is.
38:43
Speaker 1: It's just the people.
38:44
Speaker 3: It's pretty sad to see that we haven't figured out
38:48
Speaker 3: yet that these people are extremely dangerous. And I think
38:51
Speaker 3: we live in a society where, well, if he can
38:54
Speaker 3: get me straight, if I personally you know, don't or
38:59
Speaker 3: can get a a pardon or don't have to pay
39:03
Speaker 3: X or don't have to you know, follow why rule,
39:07
Speaker 3: then I'm good. And I think that's a lot of
39:11
Speaker 3: the mindset that we see, and that particular mindset is
39:15
Speaker 3: going to be the destruction of us.
39:17
Speaker 1: So it's it is what it is.
39:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry for corboozie. Man. You want know what
39:28
Speaker 2: is black ass over there with the people. But you
39:31
Speaker 2: know that's how the cookie crumbles. Like you said, people
39:34
Speaker 2: got to find on their own how racist disadministration. A
39:38
Speaker 2: lot of people will have to get the Amorosa treatment,
39:41
Speaker 2: you know, in order for them to get it.
39:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all right, Well what don't you get this week?
39:52
Speaker 2: Well, it's been a plethorough things. First, I want to
39:54
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, my my letter to jay Z
39:59
Speaker 2: and response to his freestyle that he did on the
40:03
Speaker 2: first night of the concert at the at the Yankee Stadium,
40:08
Speaker 2: the the jay Z thirty the Celebration of Reasonable Doubt,
40:12
Speaker 2: and he opened up with his target freestyle, which you know,
40:16
Speaker 2: I felt like I had to respond and I wanted
40:18
Speaker 2: to respond to it in a creative way, in creative manner,
40:22
Speaker 2: and also you know, in a respectful man and in love,
40:25
Speaker 2: you know, because a lot of times I think we've
40:27
Speaker 2: got to a point where people think disagreement has to
40:31
Speaker 2: be disrespect and I don't, and I don't and I
40:33
Speaker 2: don't live in that, you know what I'm saying. I
40:35
Speaker 2: have a lot of friends that I disagree with, and
40:37
Speaker 2: we have discussions and we have arguments, but we still
40:40
Speaker 2: argue in love and we disagree in love. You know.
40:43
Speaker 2: So this this letter was acknowledging what it is that
40:47
Speaker 2: I believe that Jay has been to the culture as
40:50
Speaker 2: not just an artist, but an entrepreneur, as someone who's
40:53
Speaker 2: been donated to the movement, who has played this part
40:57
Speaker 2: in certain roles. And then there's also missed that it
41:00
Speaker 2: mishaps and just trying to, you know, reconcile all of
41:03
Speaker 2: those things and just give you a clear view of
41:06
Speaker 2: how some of us see, especially as coming from an
41:10
Speaker 2: activist perspectives. Now, first let me start by saying that
41:13
Speaker 2: ain't nobody better than home.
41:15
Speaker 4: You set a bar for bar as well you in NAWS.
41:17
Speaker 4: But as far as.
41:18
Speaker 2: World impact and rep you did that you and from
41:21
Speaker 2: a kid that pitch crack and spit facts to a
41:24
Speaker 2: rich black mobil In fact, your global impact should be studied,
41:28
Speaker 2: because shit, we studied reasonable doubt and the way you
41:31
Speaker 2: was weaving in and out of those beats and speaking
41:34
Speaker 2: about those streets, how we was trying to eat, move
41:36
Speaker 2: and work doing dirt without no cleats was masterful. That's
41:40
Speaker 2: why thirty years later, those masterpieces are so classical and
41:43
Speaker 2: the statue you required deserves to be admired because you
41:46
Speaker 2: inspired a generation. You showed us that dedication could lead
41:50
Speaker 2: to elevation from a project boyd, that's so illegal medication
41:54
Speaker 2: to hold the cultural leader of a nation, and you
41:57
Speaker 2: gave the streets education and a revelation. Escaping deafinit incarceration
42:02
Speaker 2: was more than the possibility. You embrace the responsibility of
42:06
Speaker 2: breaking down doors and vading corporate America, using punchlines and
42:10
Speaker 2: similes to break it down for us. You did exactly
42:13
Speaker 2: what you told us. You made them pay for what
42:16
Speaker 2: they did to the cold crush that was so tough
42:19
Speaker 2: but heavy as they had that where's the crown? Now?
42:22
Speaker 2: Everywhere you turn they trying to tear you down. You
42:24
Speaker 2: either Illuminati or being sued by somebody, or somebody talking
42:28
Speaker 2: about you while they being interviewed by somebody Lucky you
42:33
Speaker 2: like you described and lucky me. But you still navigate
42:36
Speaker 2: through it like a fucking g and they act like
42:38
Speaker 2: they don't fucking see how you've been standing up for blacks,
42:41
Speaker 2: silently standing in the gaps from Trayvon the cap and
42:45
Speaker 2: I know what really happened with that, but.
42:46
Speaker 4: We ain't talking about that.
42:48
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the facts, or how you've been fighting
42:50
Speaker 2: for blacks for real, bringing niggas back home from jail
42:53
Speaker 2: and silently funding the movement and fitting the bill and
42:56
Speaker 2: still taking the shots from your own at the top
42:59
Speaker 2: of thrown you all along, But it don't make you
43:02
Speaker 2: immune from the pain when the same culture you fought
43:05
Speaker 2: with the votures for is trying to ruin your name.
43:08
Speaker 2: That shit gotta hurt, I know, because it hurts me.
43:11
Speaker 2: It hurts to see. But it also hurts to be
43:14
Speaker 2: the subject of such slander. When you're front lining for
43:16
Speaker 2: your people and these suckers talk about you and such
43:19
Speaker 2: a manner that shit be mind blowing. You try not
43:22
Speaker 2: bother and even responded, but you're a man with prize,
43:25
Speaker 2: so you decide to bust back like fuck that, and
43:28
Speaker 2: I love that. But this time you shot your own
43:30
Speaker 2: anllies hop because we was the ones boycotting. We had
43:34
Speaker 2: our people avoiding shopping and target they lost billions, pleading
43:37
Speaker 2: with us to put them back on the market. Sure,
43:41
Speaker 2: men in Google was guilty too, but history and strategy
43:44
Speaker 2: told us that target was our target, so we focus. Hoh,
43:48
Speaker 2: we showed them what you showed us how to move
43:51
Speaker 2: in a room full of voltures. Pay us what you
43:54
Speaker 2: owe as for all the years that you hold us,
43:56
Speaker 2: we made target take notice. We not your token niggas. Nah,
44:01
Speaker 2: we not no side chick slide shit. You gotta fuck
44:04
Speaker 2: with us out in the open, nigga. We showed them
44:07
Speaker 2: black power. We showed them that our black dollar fused
44:10
Speaker 2: this economy. So see when you dismissed boycotting as picking
44:14
Speaker 2: and shoosing and politiicing as usual, you.
44:17
Speaker 4: Took a shot at me. When I know you proud
44:19
Speaker 4: of me.
44:19
Speaker 2: You gotta be because I fought with the blueprint, so
44:23
Speaker 2: I know you meant to silence. They hate us, but
44:25
Speaker 2: they use it to discredit our movement and divide and
44:28
Speaker 2: deflat us. But nah, they can't play us because we
44:32
Speaker 2: smarter than that. That divide and conquers shit ain't gonna
44:35
Speaker 2: work over here. Y'all gotta come harder than that pause,
44:41
Speaker 2: so y'all can relapse because it's nothing to see here,
44:43
Speaker 2: just a black man showing love to his brother.
44:46
Speaker 4: And let's be clear, even in disagreement and still loving.
44:49
Speaker 2: Respect because it's black equity, black power, black love to
44:55
Speaker 2: the death peace. I just really wanted it to come
44:59
Speaker 2: for a genuine place because I'm I've realized now being
45:04
Speaker 2: in a level of celebrity status to where you know,
45:08
Speaker 2: people notice you and people have in common and people
45:12
Speaker 2: come on your page and people have an opinion about
45:15
Speaker 2: everything you say or do you know that it's not easy?
45:18
Speaker 2: You know, it's people that say things about me that
45:21
Speaker 2: so far fetched. People I've known, people I don't know.
45:25
Speaker 2: Every day I wake up to on the Internet and
45:27
Speaker 2: somebody talking to me like or talking about me because
45:31
Speaker 2: they don't these conversations. I never really met an internet
45:34
Speaker 2: person in the street, but there's somebody on the Internet
45:37
Speaker 2: talking about me, and it's just fabricated. It's lies, it's vile,
45:43
Speaker 2: it's it's crazy. So you got to put yourself in
45:46
Speaker 2: people's shoes and sometimes and say that it must be
45:50
Speaker 2: hard to be an individual who has that level of notoriety,
45:55
Speaker 2: right because with love comes take and it's and sometimes
45:59
Speaker 2: it is not even balanced sometimes, especially if you look
46:02
Speaker 2: on the Internet. I was watching an interview with the
46:07
Speaker 2: guys from On Your Leisure and Rashard was saying, how
46:13
Speaker 2: if you pay attention to the Internet, you would think
46:16
Speaker 2: that most people hate you until you actually go outside
46:20
Speaker 2: you know, they were talking about their investments and how
46:22
Speaker 2: it's just a room full of love and people showing
46:25
Speaker 2: them love. And they walk through there and it's hundreds
46:29
Speaker 2: of thousand people coming up to them saying how much
46:32
Speaker 2: they love what they do. But then you go into comments.
46:35
Speaker 2: If you just live in comments session, you think, damn,
46:37
Speaker 2: you don't fuck with me at all, you know, So
46:40
Speaker 2: when you start understanding that, you know, and then you
46:43
Speaker 2: start getting older, man, we like, we gotta we gotta
46:45
Speaker 2: get more accustomer calling our people in instead of calling
46:49
Speaker 2: them out, especially the ones that's not really when you
46:53
Speaker 2: can tell that somebody, like, there's certain people who their
46:57
Speaker 2: whole intention is negative. They don't add anything to the culture,
47:02
Speaker 2: They don't add anything to our people. They never tried
47:05
Speaker 2: to help our people. They've always done nothing but tear down.
47:10
Speaker 2: And those people out there are opposition, and you just
47:13
Speaker 2: have to acknowledge that. So at that point you get
47:16
Speaker 2: into your fighting stance. You at war with those who
47:18
Speaker 2: try to tear down our people. But then, like Harry
47:22
Speaker 2: Belafonte said, man that you know those who are who
47:27
Speaker 2: are for our people only subject to friendship, You know
47:32
Speaker 2: those who are not playing the devil's game, and I
47:37
Speaker 2: don't I'm not going to participate in the devil's game.
47:41
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of our people, like you always
47:44
Speaker 2: say they are no perfect leaders, you know, and if
47:47
Speaker 2: we're looking for perfect leaders, if we're looking for perfect people,
47:50
Speaker 2: we're not gonna find it. But if you try to
47:53
Speaker 2: find where there is, you know, the connection where our
47:57
Speaker 2: people do the positive they do, and we try to
48:00
Speaker 2: build on that and try to help them move to
48:03
Speaker 2: their higher selves, then that's where we are. And that's
48:06
Speaker 2: that's where I'm at in this space, you know, So
48:08
Speaker 2: that I just wanted to bring that, just to put
48:11
Speaker 2: a pin in that. But for my I don't get
48:14
Speaker 2: it right. It's kind of I want to get it,
48:21
Speaker 2: but I don't get right. So we're in this time
48:24
Speaker 2: now where there seems to be a direct attempt to
48:31
Speaker 2: disenfranchise our demographic. You know, if you talk about from jobs,
48:37
Speaker 2: black people losing jobs, your higher rates. If we talk
48:40
Speaker 2: about our movement, you know, the fracture in our movement
48:44
Speaker 2: is divided. You know, it's based on ideology, is based
48:48
Speaker 2: on raise, is based on all of these things. And
48:51
Speaker 2: there's a direct correlation to all of these things. And
48:55
Speaker 2: I hear all the time. You know, what is what
49:00
Speaker 2: black people look like? What are people doing for black people?
49:04
Speaker 1: What?
49:04
Speaker 2: You know, black people are fighting, standing in the gaps
49:07
Speaker 2: for everyone? Why why aren't black other people racist standing
49:12
Speaker 2: with black people in times? Or like, who's speaking up
49:16
Speaker 2: for Carmelo Anthony? Who is this person speaking up for
49:20
Speaker 2: the young man who just lost his life? Who's where
49:23
Speaker 2: are the our allies? As we say? And I understand
49:31
Speaker 2: the sentiments, but I also want to know, have we
49:35
Speaker 2: made a clear, you know, distinction of what what unity
49:41
Speaker 2: is supposed to look like? What is you know, allieship
49:45
Speaker 2: look like with our communities? What does that really look
49:48
Speaker 2: like for us? And if we don't see that, right,
49:52
Speaker 2: why aren't we building our own infrastructure? Right? Shout out
49:57
Speaker 2: to Ryan Clark, who is arguably one of the dopest commentators. Man,
50:02
Speaker 2: I love watching him. Well, I used to love because
50:05
Speaker 2: he just lost his job on ESPN and he was
50:11
Speaker 2: just fired in the middle of his job. Like literally,
50:15
Speaker 2: now he just won Emmys. It's not about his his
50:19
Speaker 2: work ethic, it's not about he's not getting the ratings.
50:23
Speaker 2: It's not about those things. And you know, and I was,
50:26
Speaker 2: and I would go on to limb to say that.
50:29
Speaker 2: I think he's too culturally competent, right, I think he's
50:33
Speaker 2: not a yes man. I think that he brings a
50:36
Speaker 2: perspective that reflects our cultures so precise that it doesn't
50:42
Speaker 2: fit into They no longer want to fit what our
50:45
Speaker 2: coach and what our demographic actually sees into mainstream. I
50:51
Speaker 2: think they're actually trying to eliminate black demographic and a
50:56
Speaker 2: black mind state and the cultural competence of blackness from mainstream.
51:02
Speaker 2: How you talk about how we don't have they got
51:05
Speaker 2: rid of joy Read and how they got rid of
51:07
Speaker 2: Roland Martin. You know, but what is the infrastructure that
51:11
Speaker 2: we as black people are going to create if we
51:15
Speaker 2: don't have allies, right, if nobody else is standing with us,
51:18
Speaker 2: what infrastructure are we going to create to where the
51:22
Speaker 2: cultural components of blackness can be expressed, can be flourished,
51:28
Speaker 2: can be profitable, can be media, can be sport like
51:33
Speaker 2: to where you don't have to say I can't sound
51:35
Speaker 2: too black, I can't talk about too many things that
51:38
Speaker 2: have to do with our people, right, because that's what
51:41
Speaker 2: it seems like right now with it trying to weed
51:44
Speaker 2: out our culture relevance, our cultural expression. Right, we're black
51:48
Speaker 2: people like and we're black people, the tunes were black
51:51
Speaker 2: we've danced to and the things that move us, you know,
51:55
Speaker 2: and I see because what happens is as you continue
51:59
Speaker 2: to grow, other cultures are feeling like, well what about us?
52:03
Speaker 2: Well what about us? It's our turn. We Yeah, we've
52:05
Speaker 2: done enough for blacks. Let's let's move into that. And
52:08
Speaker 2: we don't even we realize that they haven't done enough
52:11
Speaker 2: for blacks at all. You know, there's there was a
52:14
Speaker 2: moment where you started to see black wealth and black
52:19
Speaker 2: powers start to increase, and the powers that be don't
52:23
Speaker 2: want to see that. So what are we going to do?
52:25
Speaker 2: I don't understand. What I don't get is if we
52:29
Speaker 2: know that we've been being disenfranchised, if we know that
52:36
Speaker 2: we don't there's very rarely total allieship. They're not saying
52:42
Speaker 2: that they're no, we don't have any allies that. You know,
52:45
Speaker 2: there's other cultures, some people from other cultures, but they
52:48
Speaker 2: only really stand with us in time to die and
52:50
Speaker 2: needs when you talk about George Floyds and situations like
52:54
Speaker 2: that where you can look at the television and just
52:56
Speaker 2: say like then it's really nothing. But they're not going
52:59
Speaker 2: to stand in the gaps with us when it's isolated
53:03
Speaker 2: incidents that we as black people look and say, damn,
53:07
Speaker 2: that's that's too close to home. That's a level of
53:09
Speaker 2: racism that we identify. We understand how seriousness is. They
53:14
Speaker 2: don't really see that. They say, Okay, that's one situation
53:17
Speaker 2: that you know, y'all got that, and that's what most
53:19
Speaker 2: people are going to do. So since we understand that,
53:23
Speaker 2: what is the mechanism that we are going to create
53:27
Speaker 2: to where those things become prevalent, to where we can
53:30
Speaker 2: amplify them to where we we don't even need either
53:33
Speaker 2: we don't need allies or we force people to become
53:37
Speaker 2: allies because it is so prevalent and it's so loud,
53:40
Speaker 2: like what what what is? What are we going to do?
53:45
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I do know. I know that we
53:48
Speaker 1: all go up together or we go down together.
53:52
Speaker 3: I know that you can't have progress if black people
53:56
Speaker 3: are are are are not I don't even want to
54:02
Speaker 3: say not progressing, because progress is in the eye of
54:05
Speaker 3: the beholder. But if black people are in a continuous state,
54:11
Speaker 3: continuing state of oppression and suffering and struggle, no other group,
54:23
Speaker 3: no other group whatsoever, will ever, ever, ever be able
54:28
Speaker 3: to succeed beyond us. Even white folks believe that because
54:33
Speaker 3: they have wealth and they have privilege, that they have
54:39
Speaker 3: in many ways been able to kind of supersede the
54:44
Speaker 3: need and the cause for black folks and what we
54:48
Speaker 3: fight for justice and equality and all those things in
54:52
Speaker 3: America every single day. And they feel like they're doing
54:55
Speaker 3: so well, they're living so well, and so we're just
54:59
Speaker 3: the little people that they they can scoff at and
55:02
Speaker 3: kick us to the side. But if you look at
55:05
Speaker 3: the economy even right now, where most of the most
55:10
Speaker 3: of the intention was to harm us as black and
55:14
Speaker 3: brown people, and particularly black folks, what you are seeing
55:19
Speaker 3: is that the cost of gas, the cost of groceries,
55:22
Speaker 3: the cost of other goods, the fact that the import
55:27
Speaker 3: export systems have been ruined. You see the farmers, the
55:31
Speaker 3: white farmers out there with crops that's dying, without workers,
55:37
Speaker 3: without people to help maintain until the land. They are
55:42
Speaker 3: impacted just like we are, maybe not to the same degree,
55:46
Speaker 3: but they know that this is actually not going well.
55:50
Speaker 3: That the best kind of society that we can live
55:54
Speaker 3: in is a society where if where all of us
55:59
Speaker 3: rides together, and it doesn't mean and what that means
56:03
Speaker 3: is that you can't.
56:06
Speaker 1: It means that your political.
56:10
Speaker 3: Analysis and your political strategy has to address those people
56:17
Speaker 3: who are impacted the most. And once you are able
56:21
Speaker 3: to address those individuals, then everybody else will in fact
56:27
Speaker 3: be in a better off situation. But you are not
56:32
Speaker 3: going to have that when there's a particular group of
56:35
Speaker 3: people who are being choked out and suppressed on a
56:38
Speaker 3: regular basis.
56:39
Speaker 1: And that is the current situation.
56:42
Speaker 3: So whatever the strategies may be, which I do believe
56:45
Speaker 3: that black votes have got to decide where we stand
56:49
Speaker 3: with groups like the DSA who's been you know, having
56:53
Speaker 3: some success winning elections with all of that has been
56:57
Speaker 3: built on the backs of black political power, or you know,
57:01
Speaker 3: have to look at the progressive movements and all of
57:05
Speaker 3: the different movements that are out here, decide where we
57:08
Speaker 3: stand and what is it that we demand of all
57:11
Speaker 3: of these foes, even the Republicans, I mean, excuse me,
57:14
Speaker 3: even the Democrats. Potentially if some people feel the Republicans,
57:19
Speaker 3: I don't see it, but it's possible. We have to
57:22
Speaker 3: find our place and our role in demanding from all
57:25
Speaker 3: of these folks. And a yeah, I would go back
57:28
Speaker 3: and say with the Republicans as well.
57:30
Speaker 1: We have to be in a.
57:32
Speaker 3: Constant state of demanding that our communities be respected because
57:37
Speaker 3: if not us, then the entire system fails. And the
57:42
Speaker 3: original sins of America are is the building of a
57:47
Speaker 3: nation on top of a people who were already here,
57:50
Speaker 3: which were the Indians, and also the enslavement of Africans
57:59
Speaker 3: that were traffic here from Africa and made to.
58:06
Speaker 1: Create a society.
58:08
Speaker 3: That was hope, that was built in an expectation that
58:12
Speaker 3: it would only be comfortable for white folks, but again
58:15
Speaker 3: they suffered.
58:16
Speaker 1: They cannot build on their own.
58:18
Speaker 3: There's literally nothing that they can do that they don't
58:22
Speaker 3: have to rely on the genius of black black people.
58:25
Speaker 3: And I hope that these folks who are in these
58:28
Speaker 3: political parties, because you know, white folks, there's very few
58:31
Speaker 3: of them.
58:32
Speaker 1: There's very few.
58:33
Speaker 3: White folks that when they are in any space, progressive,
58:40
Speaker 3: good spaces, church, anywhere that they are, that they don't
58:44
Speaker 3: have white people tendencies, and that means that those tendencies exist.
58:49
Speaker 3: I saw an article that is the cover of the
58:52
Speaker 3: New York Post is a brother the Queensborough President, Brother Donovan,
58:59
Speaker 3: saying that in the DSA, the cronies of Macdonnie, which
59:04
Speaker 3: I don't know if Mamdonnie would characterize it in that way,
59:08
Speaker 3: because you know, the DSA is one thing, and while
59:10
Speaker 3: he is a member of the DSA, I can see
59:13
Speaker 3: where there is a departure of some of what he's
59:18
Speaker 3: doing from the DSA.
59:19
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you call him his cronies,
59:21
Speaker 1: but let's.
59:21
Speaker 3: Go with it and say if that's the way that
59:24
Speaker 3: that that that brother Donovan wants to describe it, then
59:28
Speaker 3: he's saying that their cronies are white supremacists, and he's
59:31
Speaker 3: talking about the gentrification and all of that.
59:35
Speaker 1: And that's because in.
59:36
Speaker 3: Many ways, white people are gonna white, that's what they're
59:39
Speaker 3: gonna do.
59:40
Speaker 1: And so the question that you raised is.
59:42
Speaker 3: One that's very important, is what will black people do
59:45
Speaker 3: to put our foot down and say these are the
59:48
Speaker 3: things that we demand, and all this shit gonna get
59:50
Speaker 3: shut down because if we decide to stand up. It's
59:53
Speaker 3: like that that that mean where the black people are
59:57
Speaker 3: sitting down at the table and there's the board where
1:00:00
Speaker 3: the monopoly is being played, and you know, everybody is
1:00:04
Speaker 3: going around and they're doing what they want. Their cars,
1:00:07
Speaker 3: their wealthy, you know, the trade and money. But if
1:00:10
Speaker 3: black people stand up, the entire board is flipped. And
1:00:14
Speaker 3: right now we may be in a posture of folks
1:00:17
Speaker 3: being exhausted, people tired, people don't feel like fighting every
1:00:23
Speaker 3: single day. But there will come a time when we
1:00:25
Speaker 3: see a threat from anybody.
1:00:28
Speaker 1: DSA, TSA, PSA.
1:00:31
Speaker 3: And light and more to our communities, and people will
1:00:35
Speaker 3: stand up and start saying hell no. And at that
1:00:38
Speaker 3: point they'll be, you know, a real fight. And I
1:00:40
Speaker 3: pray that we can be a part of in which
1:00:43
Speaker 3: we are. We're in all the threads, we're having, all
1:00:46
Speaker 3: the conversations, we're in the meetings trying to make sure
1:00:49
Speaker 3: we don't get there because there's so much more that
1:00:52
Speaker 3: can be done if we work together than us working
1:00:55
Speaker 3: some separate courts.
1:00:59
Speaker 2: So I agree with you you're saying, I just believe that
1:01:01
Speaker 2: we need to be a lot more proactive than react.
1:01:05
Speaker 2: You know, I think that we've seen this and we
1:01:08
Speaker 2: and we already see what's happening, and we're smart enough
1:01:12
Speaker 2: strategic enough to say, okay, let's get ahead of this.
1:01:15
Speaker 2: Let's not get to the point where you know, we
1:01:20
Speaker 2: on defense. We're still in a position to where we
1:01:23
Speaker 2: can play a little bit of offense the game, ain't
1:01:26
Speaker 2: We're not all the way behind. We we have position,
1:01:29
Speaker 2: we have people in power. Let's not lose the power
1:01:32
Speaker 2: of fighting against the trusture saying we're not getting Let's
1:01:35
Speaker 2: let's insert ourselves right now from position to power. And
1:01:40
Speaker 2: that's that's how I see it. I don't want I
1:01:41
Speaker 2: don't want to wait to the DSA or whatever other
1:01:46
Speaker 2: entity that's created and the social whoever it is, you know,
1:01:50
Speaker 2: start to build, because they're building and they're moving fast,
1:01:54
Speaker 2: and we don't want them to build without us, right
1:01:57
Speaker 2: we want we want to make sure that our imprint
1:01:59
Speaker 2: is an everything that's built, especially in inside of this
1:02:03
Speaker 2: demographic right in our communities, Like you can't have people
1:02:09
Speaker 2: come that's governing our communities and we don't have to
1:02:12
Speaker 2: say so, you know, and we're talking about, well they're
1:02:15
Speaker 2: not they're not including us. No, we can't allow them
1:02:18
Speaker 2: not to include us, you know. And I think that's
1:02:21
Speaker 2: the projure that we have to have right now, like, Okay,
1:02:23
Speaker 2: this is this is where we're going, this is the progressive,
1:02:26
Speaker 2: this is what the movement is. Then we have to
1:02:28
Speaker 2: implement what it is that we want. We have to
1:02:32
Speaker 2: have our demands. We have to have our people who
1:02:34
Speaker 2: are are fit to actually lead that we believe in
1:02:40
Speaker 2: and make sure that they have seat set thos. Like
1:02:42
Speaker 2: you said, see set the table, because if we stand up,
1:02:44
Speaker 2: then the whole table gets flipped over. We don't have
1:02:47
Speaker 2: to flip the table over yet. You know, I don't
1:02:49
Speaker 2: want us to get to where we got to flip
1:02:50
Speaker 2: the table over. I want us to be way more strategic.
1:02:54
Speaker 2: And that's all I keep saying. I'm tired of us
1:02:57
Speaker 2: only fighting when we die.
1:03:00
Speaker 3: We always have to flip the tables. I know that
1:03:03
Speaker 3: we would like to see something different, and.
1:03:05
Speaker 1: I it off for that.
1:03:06
Speaker 3: I'm with you, but we always have to flip the tables.
1:03:10
Speaker 3: That's just the reality of what we do. We have
1:03:16
Speaker 3: to flip the tables. We've got to shake the situation
1:03:21
Speaker 3: up because if we don't, people just walk around and
1:03:24
Speaker 3: act like black folks don't even exist. It's a sad truth,
1:03:27
Speaker 3: but it is it is our reality. We definitely in
1:03:32
Speaker 3: all of these spaces that you're talking about, even when
1:03:35
Speaker 3: we are approaching it from a place of power, where
1:03:38
Speaker 3: we're still gonna have to shake the damn table. Because
1:03:42
Speaker 3: when you think about the women's march. That's the same
1:03:45
Speaker 3: thing that happened there. It was built with good intentions,
1:03:49
Speaker 3: but when white folks get involved, you ain't got no
1:03:52
Speaker 3: choice but to shake the table.
1:03:57
Speaker 1: Well, hey, different if there was other black people, but
1:04:01
Speaker 1: it's not.
1:04:04
Speaker 2: I mean, if that's that's what we have to do,
1:04:07
Speaker 2: then you know, that's that's the only option. I just
1:04:11
Speaker 2: for me, when I'm looking at it, I'll be okay.
1:04:13
Speaker 2: I see people are trying to make sure that their
1:04:17
Speaker 2: poison of being heard. Some people. You know, there's a movement,
1:04:21
Speaker 2: and I think that a lot of us, although are not,
1:04:26
Speaker 2: you know, directly a part of it. That we do
1:04:29
Speaker 2: have people who have levels of influence, right, we do
1:04:34
Speaker 2: have people who have levels of respect within and I
1:04:37
Speaker 2: think positioning them properly and coming with our level of
1:04:41
Speaker 2: demands and increasing our presence will be helpful. That's just
1:04:46
Speaker 2: my perspective. But maybe it won't happen. Maybe we gotta
1:04:49
Speaker 2: like you said, maybe we got to flip the table.
1:04:50
Speaker 2: But I know, whatever it is, we have to maintain,
1:04:54
Speaker 2: you know, our power within whatever structure. You know, it's
1:04:58
Speaker 2: going to represent our.
1:04:59
Speaker 1: Communities absolutely absolutely.
1:05:03
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1:05:05
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