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- 0:00Picture this.
- 0:01You're in a control room on a ship far off the coast of Brazil.
- 0:04It's pretty dark outside.
- 0:05It's even darker below you.
- 0:07A robot the size of a small car is sinking through the black water,
- 0:11a thousand meters down, its lights carving a tunnel through the dark.
- 0:16And then something drifts into frame, big, pale, arms unfurling like a parachute.
- 0:22It's an octopus, a giant open ocean octopus that almost no one has ever seen
- 0:27alive, and she's eating a jellyfish.
- 0:30The scientists in that room go quiet because this is an animal
- 0:33they mostly know from the dead specimens hauled up in the nets.
- 0:37And here she is, alive, feeding, and real.
- 0:42That moment actually happened recently.
- 0:44It's a part of a much bigger story about the biggest living space on the
- 0:48planet, a place where we have barely looked at and a decision the world
- 0:53is about to make about its future.
- 0:55Let's get into it.
- 0:57Welcome to the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 0:58I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 0:59This is a show where we turn ocean science into action that you can actually take.
- 1:04If this is your kind of thing, do me a quick favor and hit that follow button
- 1:08right now, wherever you're listening.
- 1:09It's free, it tells the algorithm this stuff matters, and it means
- 1:13you won't miss the next episode.
- 1:15So here's the question I wanna answer today.
- 1:18What lives in the middle of the ocean?
- 1:20Why does it matter to you, even if you never go into the deep sea?
- 1:23And what can one person actually do to protect a place
- 1:27three kilometers underwater?
- 1:29Now stick with me, because at the end of this episode, you're going to see
- 1:32the ocean's biggest neighborhood in a completely different way, and I've got
- 1:35a few simple, honest things that you can do this week to help protect it.
- 1:39One story today, but we're gonna tell it in three parts.
- 1:42So part one is the dive.
- 1:45The ship is called Falkor Too.
- 1:48It's run by the Schmidt Ocean Institute, a group that does deep sea
- 1:51research and importantly, streams a lot of it online for free.
- 1:55On this expedition, off the coast of Brazil, they sent down a remotely
- 1:58operated vehicle, the deep sea robot named SuBastian, S-U-Bastian, tethered
- 2:04to the ship by a long cable that feeds it power and sends video back in real time.
- 2:09They weren't diving to the sea floor.
- 2:11They were exploring the midwater.
- 2:13That's the open water between the sunlit surface and the bottom.
- 2:16Think of it as the ocean's middle, not the shallows, not
- 2:19the seabed, the vast in between.
- 2:22And what they found there was a parade of animals, many of
- 2:25them brand new to science.
- 2:27More than two dozen species that had never been formally described.
- 2:30New jellyfish, comb jellies, which shimmer and ripple as they beat rows of
- 2:34their tiny hairs like a living rainbow.
- 2:37Siphonophores, strange colonial creatures that string out through
- 2:40the water like a chain of beads.
- 2:43Tadpole-like animals called larvaceans.
- 2:46A gossamer worm that glows, and a tiny crustacean called an amphipod.
- 2:51They spotted a young glass squid, completely see-through, hanging in
- 2:54the water about 780 meters down.
- 2:57They filmed a dinner plate jellyfish hunting a comb jelly, swimming with its
- 3:02tentacles held out in front like a net.
- 3:04And then there was the octopus.
- 3:07Her name scientifically is Haliphron atlanticus.
- 3:11She's an open ocean species, which is unusual for an octopus.
- 3:15Most octopuses live on the bottom.
- 3:17This one lives on the outer water column, and she's big.
- 3:21The body they filmed, just the main part, was about the length of your forearm.
- 3:26But this species can grow to around four meters from arm tip
- 3:30to arm tip, and weigh as much as a grown adult, roughly 75 kilograms.
- 3:36Here's why the team got so excited.
- 3:38Almost everything we know about this animal comes from specimens
- 3:40caught in nets, dead, crushed.
- 3:43So watching one alive at around eight hundred meters calmly eating
- 3:47a red jellyfish, that's rare.
- 3:49That's a window into the behavior we almost never get to see.
- 3:53Now, one thing I wanna point out, they just didn't aim a camera and guess.
- 3:57They used imaging systems built at the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute,
- 4:00including a laser scanner that can capture the 3D shape of a soft, transparent
- 4:04animal without ever touching it.
- 4:06And they ran genetic analysis on some samples to confirm new species fast.
- 4:11So this is a new way of doing deep-sea biology.
- 4:14Look, don't grab.
- 4:16Scan, don't destroy.
- 4:18For fragile animals that fall apart the second you put them
- 4:21in a net, that's a big deal.
- 4:24Now, part two, why this matters, and this is where it gets bigger
- 4:27than a cool octopus video.
- 4:29The chief scientist of this expedition, Karen Osborne, from the Smithsonian,
- 4:33called the midwater the largest habitat on Earth, and she's right.
- 4:36By volume, the open midwater is the biggest living space on the planet.
- 4:41It's the most room that life on Earth actually has, and
- 4:44we've barely even seen it.
- 4:47Here's a number that stopped me cold.
- 4:48A study published in 2025 in the journal Science Advances tried to
- 4:52work out how much of the deep seafloor humans have actually looked at with
- 4:56cameras, not mapped from above, actually seen with our own eyes.
- 5:00The answer?
- 5:01Less than one-thousandth of a percent, zero point zero zero one percent.
- 5:06The researchers said that's a patch of deep seafloor smaller than
- 5:09the state of Rhode Island for the entire global ocean across nearly
- 5:12seventy years of exploration.
- 5:15And the little we have seen is lopsided.
- 5:17That same study looked at about around 44,000 deep sea dives and found that about
- 5:22two-thirds of all the visual observations were clustered near just three countries,
- 5:26the United States, Japan, and New Zealand.
- 5:29So we're not just missing most of the deep ocean.
- 5:31We're trying to understand a global system from a tiny biased sample.
- 5:36That's the sea floor.
- 5:37The mid-water above it is even harder to reach and even less explored.
- 5:42So when the team goes to Brazil and finds two dozen new species in a
- 5:45matter of weeks, that's not a fluke.
- 5:47That's the normal result of finally looking somewhere new.
- 5:50Okay, but maybe you're thinking, "That's fascinating, but these are
- 5:53tiny jellies three kilometers down.
- 5:55Why should I care?" Here's why.
- 5:58These animals are running a system that keeps our planet livable.
- 6:02You've probably heard the ocean called the planet's lungs.
- 6:05Here's the part that people miss.
- 6:06A reason the ocean pulls carbon out of the atmosphere is because
- 6:10of the animals in that midwater.
- 6:12Tiny plankton at the surface soak up carbon dioxide.
- 6:15They get eaten and packaged into waste and dead material, and it all sinks.
- 6:19Little animals in the midwater grab it, eat it, repackage it, and drive it deeper.
- 6:24Some of them even swim up to feed at night and sink back down by the day, carrying
- 6:28carbon with them like a conveyor belt.
- 6:31Scientists call this the biological carbon pump, and the scale is enormous.
- 6:36Estimates vary from study to study, but the ocean's biological pump moves
- 6:39somewhere between five and 12 million tons of carbon from the surface
- 6:43toward the deep every single year.
- 6:46A lot of the carbon can stay locked away for a century or more.
- 6:49Without those midwater animals doing that work, there would be
- 6:52far more carbon dioxide sitting in our atmosphere right now.
- 6:55So those weird, fragile, glowing animals off the coast of Brazil,
- 6:58they're not just a sideshow.
- 6:59They're part of a machinery that regulates the climate you live in.
- 7:03And they're a food base for the fish, the squid, and the whales that a lot
- 7:06of people depend on Now, quick pause.
- 7:08If this is landing for you, if you're looking at the deep ocean a little
- 7:12differently right now, share this episode with one person, just one.
- 7:15Text it to somebody who loves the ocean or someone who has
- 7:18never thought about it once.
- 7:20Honestly, that's one of the most useful things you can
- 7:21do, and it takes only seconds.
- 7:24Okay, part three, and this is the part that turns a lot of this from
- 7:27nature documentary into a decision.
- 7:29Because at the same time we're discovering how alive and how important
- 7:32the midwater is, there's a serious push to start mining below it.
- 7:36It's called deep-sea mining.
- 7:37The target is the sea floor thousands of meters down, where valuable metals sit
- 7:42in potato-sized lumps called nodules.
- 7:44Cobalt, nickel, copper, manganese, metals used in batteries and electronics.
- 7:50Companies want to send machines down to scrape and vacuum
- 7:53those nodules off the bottom.
- 7:55Now, there's a connection to everything, as I just told you.
- 7:57Mining the sea floor doesn't stay on the sea floor.
- 8:00The machine kicks up huge clouds of sediment, and to run the equipment,
- 8:03operators pump material up to the ship, then discharge the leftover
- 8:07slurry back into the water.
- 8:09That creates plumes, clouds of fine sediment drifting through the midwater.
- 8:13The exact zone that's all full of these fragile animals that are so important to
- 8:17the ocean and so important to the planet.
- 8:19And here's the problem, and this is backed by research.
- 8:22Midwater animals evolve in some of the clearest, calmest,
- 8:25most stable water on Earth.
- 8:26There's normally almost no sediment out there, and so they are not built for mud.
- 8:31Scientists warn that fine particles can clog the feeding structures of
- 8:34filter feeders and the breathing structures of small fish.
- 8:38The ones that filter carbon out of the water, their delicate mucus
- 8:41filters can get completely clogged.
- 8:43For jellies and siphonophores, sediment sticking to their bodies can throw
- 8:47off their buoyancy, their basic ability to stay where they need to be.
- 8:52There's a lab study on deep sea jellyfish, the helmet jellyfish published in
- 8:55the journal Nature Communications.
- 8:57The researchers exposed it to sediment like you'd get from a mining plume, and
- 9:01the stress response from the sediment was more severe than the stress response from
- 9:04a four-degree jump in water temperature.
- 9:07Sit with that for a second.
- 9:08For this animal, the mud was worse than extreme warming.
- 9:12And these plumes don't stay small.
- 9:13Because the midwater is one connected, moving system, scientists warn
- 9:17plumes could spread for tens or even thousands of kilometers, and some of
- 9:21the metals released could linger in the water for a very, very long time.
- 9:26So put it all together.
- 9:27We have barely explored the largest habitat on Earth.
- 9:30We're discovering that it's full of unknown life, doing critical
- 9:33work for the climate, and we're on the edge of industrializing
- 9:37it before we understand it.
- 9:39Here's the hopeful part, and it's real.
- 9:41This is not decided yet.
- 9:43The body that governs mining in international waters is called the
- 9:45International Seabed Authority, the ISA.
- 9:48And so far, they have not finished the rule book that would allow
- 9:51full commercial mining to start.
- 9:53Meanwhile, the pressure is building the other way.
- 9:55As of twenty twenty-six, around forty countries have formally called
- 9:58for a pause, a moratorium or an outright ban on deep sea mining
- 10:02until the science catches up.
- 10:04And here's a detail that I love.
- 10:05Two of those countries are Canada, my country, and Brazil.
- 10:09Brazil right off one of the coasts this expedition just found all this new life.
- 10:14So this is one of those rare moments where the door is still open, the
- 10:17decision is still being made, and public pressure genuinely matters here.
- 10:22So here's a takeaway I wanna leave you with.
- 10:24The deep ocean is not empty.
- 10:26It is not a wasteland.
- 10:28It's the largest living space on Earth.
- 10:31It's full of animals we're only just meeting, and it's quietly
- 10:34helping hold our climate together.
- 10:37And we're lucky.
- 10:38We're getting to see its face right at the moment we decide what to do with it.
- 10:42Right now, that choice is still ours to make.
- 10:44Now, like always, let's make this doable.
- 10:46i'm not gonna pretend that you can stop a mining ship from your couch.
- 10:49But here are a few honest, real things that you can do this week.
- 10:52One, go watch the footage.
- 10:55The Schmidt Ocean Institute puts its dives on YouTube for free,
- 10:58and many of them stream live.
- 11:00Search Stream Ocean Institute and just watch a dive.
- 11:03See the octopus for yourself.
- 11:05When people can picture what's down there, they start to care about it.
- 11:09That's not nothing.
- 11:10That's how movement starts.
- 11:12Two, find out where your country stands on deep sea mining.
- 11:15If you're in Canada and Brazil, your government has already backed a pause.
- 11:18So a quick thank you note to your representative helps reinforce it.
- 11:21If you're somewhere that hasn't, that's a short, polite email worth sending.
- 11:26Keep it simple.
- 11:26Just ask them to support a precautionary pause until the science is in.
- 11:31Three, follow the science and share it.
- 11:34Groups like the Schmidt Ocean Institute, the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research
- 11:37Institute, and the Ocean Discovery League are doing this work out in the open.
- 11:41Follow them.
- 11:42Share a clip.
- 11:43Every share puts these animals in front of someone who's never seen them.
- 11:47And four, a slower one.
- 11:49A lot of the demand for deep sea metals is tied to batteries, so anything that
- 11:52supports using less or reusing more, recycling your old electronics properly,
- 11:57supporting better battery recycling, backing the companies working on it,
- 12:01chips away at the argument that we have no choice but to mine the deep sea.
- 12:05We do have choices.
- 12:06None of these fix it overnight, but this is a fight about
- 12:09attention as much as anything else.
- 12:12For most of history, the deep sea's biggest problem was
- 12:14simply that nobody was looking.
- 12:16You're looking.
- 12:17You looking and caring and passing it on changes that.
- 12:21That's the episode for today.
- 12:22If you got something out of this, follow the show, share it with one person,
- 12:25and we'll see you in the next one.
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- 12:44I wanna thank you so much for joining me on today's episode of the
- 12:47How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 12:48I am your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 12:49Have a great day.
- 12:50We'll talk to you next time, and happy conservation.