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Random Heathen Ramblings: S4, EP39- Experiencing Amplified History (feat. Skaldic Works) · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  Hello everyone and welcome to the Random Heathen Ramblings
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  can barely walk, you know, Whereas the day before I'm like,
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  you know, sprinting around doing laps, all that fun stuff.
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  But anywho, not to go off into the weeds about stuff, but we do
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  have a guest coming on the show here today here In just a
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  minute, I have had Blake on the show in the past.
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  It's been a while now probably. I have to look back and see
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  which season he came on here. I think it was like season 2
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  maybe, maybe season three, but I feel like it was season 2.
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  But you can go back and you can listen or watch the first
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  episode. I'll I'll leave it annotated in
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  the show notes and and down the description area for you.
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  But he is a a musician himself. He's in Alabama and he plays the
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  toggle harp. You know, so that that infamous
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  sounding fiddle kind of thing that you hear being played in
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  bands like Wardroona, Dannheim, you know, Fuimidan or Fuimidane.
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  I've heard it pronounced Fuimidan, Fuimidan, Fuimidane,
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  Mirknoor, like all these various, you know, Eldervock,
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  right. Skogamor, right.
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  They've all got that that Nordic fiddle thing going on.
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  There's various types of toggle harps, but he plays the toggle
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  harp. He's got a channel, it's called
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  Skaldic Works. All of his socials are going to
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  be linked down below or in the show notes wherever you catch
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  this. So do be sure to check him out
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  and support him. Either give his page a follow,
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  whatever social media he has going on.
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  We'll hear more about that. But the reason he's coming back
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  on the show here today is because him and I first met
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  over, you know, the Internet, through through my social media
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  channels and had never met in person.
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  Our first in person meeting happened just this past week
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  when he and I, when my wife went to, you know, the the Hilung
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  ritual in Huntsville, AL. And he was there also.
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  And we're going to be talking about our experiences, you know,
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  what we felt and what it was like to attend Hilung.
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  Now, I don't know right at this moment if this show was was was
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  his first Highland experience, It was mine.
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  So I'm very excited to to talk about things that you know, kind
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  of were a part of the the whole experience, you know, from from
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  traveling there to being in the area to waiting for the seating
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  to be opened up for people to going into the venue, to just
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  everything from start to finish. So I'm excited to be talking
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  about that today. I'm excited to hear about
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  Blake's experience because again, I don't know for sure if
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  this was his first Highland ritual, but we're going to get
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  into it and we're going to talk about it.
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  And yeah, that's what the today's episode is going to be.
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  So it's kind of like a experiencing amplified history
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  podcast. You know amplified history being
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  that thing that that that that Blake's all of or that Blake but
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  but that Highland is all about. So we're going to take a short
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  break. Welcome in, Blake here.
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  In just a minute, if you haven't yet already, please follow this
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  podcast. Please subscribe.
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  Please do all the things. If you want to become a Patreon
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  Patreon be. Feel free to do that.
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  And yeah, let's go ahead and welcome in Blake to the random
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  Eden Ramblings podcast once again from Skaldic Works.
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  Here we go. All right, everybody.
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  Well, we've got Blake here from Skaldic works.
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  As I mentioned before, he came on here.
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  He's a prior guest, but we me and him and kind of connected
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  long distance now for at least a couple years.
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  I'm trying to remember, Blake, when you came on the show the
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  first time. I feel like it was maybe season
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  2 like a like a couple years ago or might have been just last
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  year. I can't remember exactly.
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  I. Think it was like three of your
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  lives, about one or two years ago?
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  Yeah. But I was, I was at this, the
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  channel I was going underneath, well, it's the same channel, but
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  I changed the name of it to the to the monitor now.
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  But it used to be Vladimir. OK, but your moniker on the your
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  your your your YouTube channel is still skaldic works, right?
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  Yes, exactly. So that's cool, you got and
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  you're still doing the the Toggle harp stuff.
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  Right. Yeah, I'll try to get back into
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  the swing of things and by an inspiration.
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  It was just this week was just like so much.
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  I couldn't do nothing. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Well I'm glad to hear that you
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  still like you know that you haven't completely because I
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  know some people when they when they pick stuff up they they
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  just like inadvertently drop off the face of the earth.
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  You know you start following them you're like oh I like this
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  And then you never hear from him anymore Like there's this one
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  guy here recently man. And I'm like, where'd you go?
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  Like he's just got he's just got one platform now and I'm like,
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  well where's your jewelry? Where's your this where's your
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  that where's your he just like disappeared.
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  And I'm like a heads up would have been nice, but not that
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  they're obligated to do that. But it's nice that you, you know
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  still have your your music which you you, you pick back up kind
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  of dusting the cobwebs off of the old toggle harp.
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  Right. Have you gotten any?
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  Have you gotten any new equipment or is it all still
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  your original stuff? It's still a lot of my original
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  stuff I'm trying to work. I'm trying to write some more
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  things new. Just trying to get get the old
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  stuff recorded and then to studio and stuff.
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  Oh, so you have material already that you're trying to put onto,
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  like? Yeah, they're already, they're
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  already up on YouTube, already up on YouTube in the short
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  format or yeah, but I'll try to re record.
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  I'm going to, I'll try to record them all and to a full
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  arrangements and stuff. Oh, nice.
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  One of my relatives has helped me with that in the city a
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  little bit. Very cool.
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  Well, yeah, I'm going to be linking all of your stuff, you
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  know, where people can find you. But for anybody listening, you
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  know there's YouTube. Do you have any other platforms,
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  anything that you do anywhere else or is that is YouTube
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  mainly? One Well, I'm also on Facebook
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  as well, and I'm also on Instagram, OK?
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  I do have a link tree account as well.
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  Oh great. Yeah.
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  So if you just you guys listening and stuff or watching
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  whichever, head down to the show notes or description area and
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  the skaldic works link tree that you'll see down there, that's
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  kind of like I could do. I have this like one stop shot,
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  right? If you want to find everywhere
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  I'm at, you want to see what you can do to support me, I got a
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  link tree like so. He's got one here.
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  You guys be sure to check that out.
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  Follow him. Subscribe.
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  Do all of those things that help support him in that way.
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  And and listen me and stream my musical 5 because I'm not
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  getting anything there so far. You stream it where now?
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  I'm on like Spotify and like everything.
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  I'm like everything right now. Apple Music, Apple Music.
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  I think Deezer is another one. Yeah, it's just through whatever
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  distro Kit has been put me through.
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  Yeah, that's a good. I've had that for about a year
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  and nobody's listened to it. I'll have to find you on
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  Spotify, man, 'cause I have like some playlists that when I get
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  together with people, like when we do some of our tribal events,
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  like I'll sometimes plug a plug a Bluetooth speaker into my, you
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  know, or connect to my Bluetooth speaker and start playing a
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  playlist like, so we got like a Yule playlist.
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  And if there's like, you know, people that I know that have
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  music out there like, you know, Eldervock and Skogramore and and
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  and others, man. But if you're on Spotify, I'll.
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  I'll definitely look you up and get you out of that way.
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  Some of your stuff gets played. Yeah, I'm fixing to change.
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  I'm fixing to change that name eventually to the to the name I
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  came up with. I'm not going to name drop yet
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  until it's all everything's recorded and released of the
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  first name, right. Yeah, I'm going to rewind it.
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  Well, not not this channel, Not not my channel.
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  Skeldrick works, but I'm going to rebrand the the name.
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  Skaldic works music to something else.
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  Oh, OK. Gotcha.
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  Already already have a name picked out.
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  I just got to get some artwork done, logos done, and I get at
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  least two songs recorded out of that.
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  Because streaming service only likes you to have at least more
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  than one before I start promoting, before I throw in
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  promotions and stuff. So I'm going to try to release a
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  lot. A lot.
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  Those, those, at least four of them, and I maybe record my.
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  The last single that I have, the only single I have on there
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  right now, which is the call of the ancestors.
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  I may re record it with a little bit better arrangements.
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  OK, We'll. Definitely be keeping our eyes.
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  Peeled Yeah. All I had was that little small
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  drum that I was using in that one.
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  And we figured out the only way, the best way to simulate a big,
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  high drum When you're not, we don't When you're broke.
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  It's a fight. A it's a fight.
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  A Gem Bay? A gym bag.
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  No, a gym bag. Oh, gym bag.
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  The. Little the little African drum
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  thing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I thought you said like a gym bag.
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  And I'm like, what are you doing?
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  Like wrapping the thing up in a Buffle bag?
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  That's weird. But.
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  OK, my, my. It was my second cousin, twice
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  removed, who's helping me with that.
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  He had what a large one. And you took like a beer of mine
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  for my my little, my little Thai shaman drum.
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  He took that and just started wailing all that, man, that's
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  like this thing throws some air like crazy.
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  It's like we gotta have this thing on.
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  We gotta have this thing on the on the, on the, on the album,
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  but the on the singles and stuff.
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  Heck yeah. Improvise, right?
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  I've heard so many, I've heard so many different, you know, you
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  know, independent musicians who record in their own space and
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  don't have like a studio or a lot of, you know, fancy bells
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  and whistles to add to things. I've heard of of of crazy
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  things, man. Like people like using some
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  software to really tune down the sound of like AI don't know, a
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  rubber band being plucked or or or something Crazy, right?
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  That's something. That's how that's how I did.
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  That's how I did my own things as well, like on my what I did
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  when I recorded on Call of the Ancestors.
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  And I took when my I took that high, that a little high drum I
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  have and I lowered it and some of the tracks and I played both
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  of them together. That kind of the same track.
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  Yeah, layered the same, the same track, but I split it off to
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  make it up with a pitch shift, and that's how I did that lower
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  drum sound. OK.
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  Interesting. Which gives us that Arabian
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  Nights kind of feel that I'm like, how did that come back?
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  How did that rhythm come out there for this kind of this
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  particular song? Yeah, like a little bit of a
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  Middle Eastern kind of vibe, you know?
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  Yeah. Like Prince Adi Fabulous.
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  It's kind of this way. It has almost sounds like How
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  did I go there? It just happened just I just hit
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  record on the tag will happen then I went.
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  Then I just recorded everything else over it.
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  See, now that you mentioned that I'm going to go back and listen
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  to it and see if I picked that up on that because I don't think
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  I picked up on that quite before.
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  Like I remember you mentioning it at one time about like the
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  kind of like, you know, like you say like Middle Eastern or
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  whatever kind of and doing. But I've heard some other
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  artists and and musicians kind of lean into that sound as well
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  with some of their some of their Nordic stuff and the the the two
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  complement one another. They really do like the
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  mandolins, like the various instruments that have used
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  across different cultures. Just they you know styles are
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  are what they are but they they they really complement one
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  another nicely when you kind of blend and mix and.
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  Stuff. And another.
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  The other thing I was going to use eventually, but until we
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  found the Jimbei itself was really good, was we were going
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  to use the floor top. Because if you have you ever
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  heard of Seder Bloat the the trio?
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  I think they're like out of the yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  I know who you're talking about. Yeah.
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  The the main drunk that they have is is just a floor Tom with
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  we're using using like beaters like just stick beaters.
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  Yeah, just like a regular. Like the shaman Drum beaters.
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  Like stick beaters. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. But there are three-year old
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  floor Toms like you would on a on a regular drum kit.
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  Yeah, yeah. So it's just a regular four
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  time, just a single floor time is what it is.
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  OK. Yeah.
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  You gotta use what you gotta use.
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  Yeah. I mean, shoot.
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  Like you got that deep bass resonant sound.
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  You know what I mean? Like, yeah.
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  I think the G bass sounds better, though.
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  It's got that kind of travel sound too, you know?
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  Yeah, it throws a lot of bass to.
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  It's the way we did it. The mic set up he did on it just
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  as phenomenal. So he's he's we're waiting for,
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  he's actually waiting to get a stand for it.
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  So he doesn't. He's so tired from holding it.
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  Sure, yeah. So he can play a lot, does he
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  did some of the rhythms as well. And I did use the little tiny
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  drum I have on it. On it.
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  Well, it's actually. The song I'm working on right
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  now is. It's based on the holidays,
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  secret blokes. So I think I saw your title of
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  that come out or you mentioned that it was.
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  I'm like, can't wait to hear that, you know, because that's
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  one of our major three holy ties, you know?
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  I wrote it. I wrote it before that, like I
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  wrote it around All Star, but it was like between All Star and
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  secret blokes. And I knew it was coming up
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  like, what do I name this? Name this.
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  Oh. Yeah, let's just name it after
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  the upcoming Nordic holiday. There you go.
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  So I may just wait and release it though around that time if I
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  could ever get back to reporting it.
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  Well, you got time for it then. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Well, that's cool man. I'm excited to to hear what
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  you've got coming out, and I hope the people are too.
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  But man, Speaking of music, you know.
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  Yeah, this, this past week, you and I both.
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  Although we went separately to the same place, we both
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  experienced the same ritual in in the context that we were
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  under the same roof with, you know, hundreds of other people
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  talking about Hilong, of course, and I.
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  Was that your first Hilong ritual?
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  Exactly my first Hilong. It it was, yes.
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  Mine too. So I was curious, you know, to
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  hear, you know, and for us to talk about it because you know,
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  when you follow, I don't know how long you've been following
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  Highland for listening to their stuff, but you know, they're all
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  of their stuff that gets shared whether you know on YouTube or
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  or anywhere else. You know, you see pictures,
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  right? And it's like it looks so
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  magical, right? And it looks so amazing from
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  that angle from the outside looking in.
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  What we're what what what expectations did you have going
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  to Huntsville this past week, it being your first time, right,
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  Kind of getting that that your Highland cherry popped, as it
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  were because mine was too, right?
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  What what what expectations did you have going into it if any?
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  Well, going back circling back to where you said that first
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  started listening to it was back in 2020 but that's first started
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  hearing about them. I had bands like Highland
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  skulled what well I've heard about Ward Bruna first and then
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  I went went flowed into that and then Skull was third on my list.
• 21:30
  But going into it, it was an unpopular opinion of this
• 21:35
  unpopular opinion. But it wasn't.
• 21:38
  I'm the kind of person that doesn't like to go where with
• 21:40
  the flow of everybody's favorite is this band and that that
• 21:43
  stuff. So they were one of my top
• 21:45
  favorite bands to listen to because again, like Seder bloat
• 21:51
  and stuff was pretty is one of my favorites, and a Tegra Loopy
• 21:55
  is another one of my favorites. Oh yeah, I can't.
• 21:58
  They got some new stuff coming out too soon I'm excited for,
• 22:01
  but I when I heard they were coming into town or town that
• 22:04
  was like that was like pretty shocked to take flight North
• 22:09
  Alabama. Yeah, as their video choice for
• 22:15
  their upcoming tour. So that's like I was leaning
• 22:20
  back and forth. I was like that week, you know,
• 22:23
  when they were about to announce the release of it, you know, of
• 22:27
  the tickets and stuff, I was like, I'm not supposed to go
• 22:30
  because I'm, I'm going to probably experience some like
• 22:32
  this for a long time again. So I didn't want to miss that
• 22:37
  chance. So I took the opportunity and I
• 22:40
  got it. So out of all of the like.
• 22:45
  The last but you say you started listening to Highland, came
• 22:47
  familiar with him, gave him some attention, you know, like around
• 22:51
  2020, you know, a few years ago. And they've come to the States
• 22:55
  twice since, since then, at least they did the Red Rocks
• 22:58
  thing and then they did Chicago and they did other tours, right.
• 23:02
  So I think this is a, this is a right around like their third
• 23:05
  return trip to the US was. Was there something?
• 23:12
  About you know when you first heard them up till now that made
• 23:17
  you pull the trigger on going to this show and not the other two
• 23:20
  tours that came prior Like did did something for you that I
• 23:24
  want to go to this one now and why didn't I go to the others
• 23:27
  before or anything like that? Well, the reason why, the main
• 23:32
  reason I think of the others is because distance.
• 23:36
  They just weren't close to you, right?
• 23:37
  Yeah. And since they were close,
• 23:39
  that's what made me pull the trigger, was that they were
• 23:40
  close. Sure, yeah.
• 23:44
  The convenience of it, because I'm only like 30 minutes away
• 23:47
  from 30 to 40 minutes away from there.
• 23:49
  Nice. So so it's not too far.
• 23:53
  It didn't take me to drive. I got back here later later that
• 23:56
  night as soon as the ever the after as soon as I got merged
• 24:02
  and stuff so. Yeah, was go ahead.
• 24:08
  No. No, I didn't say if you know
• 24:10
  was. Without going into it without, I
• 24:15
  guess you know, you were kind of again, not having any
• 24:17
  expectations, right? Because an unpopular opinion as
• 24:19
  you say like hey, they weren't my favoritest band or or or
• 24:22
  thing coming out in that style of music.
• 24:24
  But if it's time you're like, well, I figured since they're,
• 24:27
  you know, within an hour from me, may as well, may as well go
• 24:30
  and check out and see what all the hubbub is about.
• 24:31
  See what all the hype's about? Yeah, exactly.
• 24:34
  And I've always been the kind of person that would listen to a
• 24:37
  band sometimes. If I haven't.
• 24:39
  If I don't recognize them or something or if I do recognize
• 24:43
  the band, I don't usually sometimes if I don't have a high
• 24:47
  opinion of them sometimes. But I do go to the shows.
• 24:50
  Every experience I've done I've been blown out of the water like
• 24:55
  I went to see what was it. Go horror for the first time.
• 24:59
  I hit Huntsville, where they hit Huntsville back in 2019, I
• 25:03
  believe 18 or 19. When they came to Maggie Myers
• 25:07
  over there and I listen to them, they're like, huh, Yeah, that's
• 25:13
  a small club. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:14
  Because a friend of mine was opening for us, was his band was
• 25:17
  opening for them and they're local and stuff.
• 25:21
  So nice he was. He's not just a friend of mine.
• 25:26
  He's also a he was also in the my other friend's band at one
• 25:30
  point before before they split. But he has.
• 25:35
  He was opening for them that night.
• 25:37
  So I went over there. I was like listening to the.
• 25:42
  I was trying to prep and and listen to the main because I
• 25:45
  always listen to the main band that comes on, you know?
• 25:49
  Prior to a show, you mean like when you're going to watch him,
• 25:51
  you're like, let me get into that.
• 25:53
  Let me let me hear what it's all about.
• 25:55
  Bout so I know the songs and stuff that can you know so when
• 26:01
  I but I was like meh or Goat War was the recording you know But
• 26:06
  when I went into when I went into it and I heard them play
• 26:09
  live and that energy and stuff I couldn't stop listening to them.
• 26:12
  I was like, I got to listen to, re listen to this, you know,
• 26:16
  that was my mindset going into the high log is I listen to a
• 26:19
  lot of the songs because I listened to.
• 26:21
  They come on my in my playlist all the time and I have it like
• 26:27
  on Spotify or whatever I'm listening to.
• 26:30
  They'll rotate in and I've really or like again every song
• 26:35
  that they did Wednesday was what I recognized, even though I
• 26:40
  didn't know the all the words to it.
• 26:42
  You know, Oh yeah, because I don't know.
• 26:45
  I don't pay attention to the words mostly anyway, even in
• 26:47
  English, to soft, to songs, you know, It's like they only know a
• 26:52
  handful from my favorite bands like Amana, Mars and Jordan
• 26:56
  Bowden and stuff like that. Right.
• 27:00
  Well, and that's the other thing too, right.
• 27:01
  So obviously you've been to many other.
• 27:04
  Live concert events and I was, I just wanted to tell you like
• 27:11
  I've got my story to tell and I'm going to get to it
• 27:13
  eventually, But what was your experience of the actual live
• 27:19
  event with Hilong in comparison to other live events that you've
• 27:24
  gone to? What was it like seeing Hilong
• 27:28
  live and in person versus? I mean, I know that the, the,
• 27:31
  the genre of music is different in that whole thing, but I just
• 27:34
  mean like the the atmosphere, the feeling.
• 27:37
  What was it like for you going to a how long show in comparison
• 27:41
  to other live events? It was different though.
• 27:43
  It was really different. When I walked into the building,
• 27:49
  you know, at first I I knew about what they do.
• 27:55
  They're the they're process of the shows, you know, as the
• 27:59
  ritual itself. But when I went in, when I went
• 28:02
  inside, I was like, you know, you hear, you see the stage,
• 28:05
  it's like got all the the trees and stuff and there's birds
• 28:10
  chirping and I like thinking I just entered the Rainforest Cafe
• 28:13
  for some reason. Right.
• 28:17
  Yeah. I just when.
• 28:17
  The elephant got to come out. It's like like where's the
• 28:21
  where's the elephant or where's this?
• 28:23
  You know, it's like, it's like that's what meant like.
• 28:26
  Even happen. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:28
  Where? Where?
• 28:29
  Where's the Where's the burgers? Right, right.
• 28:33
  Or the OR the chicken sandwich. Whichever was good there kept we
• 28:36
  were overly eating there once. Wait, does that place still
• 28:39
  exist? Did the Gorillas come out at any
• 28:42
  point in time? Yeah, the, the Razors, yeah, I
• 28:45
  think they, I think the company that runs that franchise is
• 28:48
  still around. I think there's I think we have
• 28:50
  one here in Nashville still. I was wondering if it was still
• 28:54
  in Nashville, but it was, it was at Off Your Meals at one point.
• 28:57
  Yeah, yeah, I I That's what I've that's what I've been to.
• 28:59
  It's one that operates. A long time since I've been
• 29:01
  there, but I think they're still there.
• 29:03
  But yeah, right. And it was, 'cause like we did
• 29:05
  almost like, you know, it almost felt like you weren't walking
• 29:08
  into a concert. You know what I mean?
• 29:10
  Like you're walking into like, AI mean it.
• 29:16
  The the, the term gets used. Like doesn't get used a lot in
• 29:19
  like heathen or pay. But it felt like you were going
• 29:21
  to church, man. Like it was a like, yeah.
• 29:23
  Let me let me get into the right headspace for what's about to
• 29:26
  happen, 'cause there was, there was, there was chatter, there
• 29:29
  was people talking, you know, there was unity happening.
• 29:32
  There were people, you know, just mingling and being friendly
• 29:36
  and all that and stuff, right? But there wasn't this just like,
• 29:39
  it wasn't. It was high energy, but it
• 29:41
  wasn't this like intense high energy.
• 29:43
  There was this kind of like simmering.
• 29:47
  Coals of embers, I guess, is the best way that I could describe
• 29:51
  it. That was like, let's come in and
• 29:52
  let's settle in and let's get ready for this fire to be lit.
• 29:57
  You know, if you. Feel here for a while.
• 29:59
  Like, that's the closest thing that I could say was, yeah, you
• 30:01
  chatter. Yeah, you chatter with the
• 30:04
  people next to you or whatever. Yeah.
• 30:07
  And then you see, I was also messaging other friends who were
• 30:12
  there as well, to see and try to locate them, because I also had
• 30:15
  to stand up for a friend of mine.
• 30:17
  I also my second, the guy I told you about that was recording
• 30:22
  help me record my second cousin twice removed, which is my
• 30:26
  grandfather's cousin's son. I don't.
• 30:29
  Know how you keep track. He was, yeah, yeah, he he was a
• 30:33
  couple rows behind me. To the left.
• 30:34
  To my left. OK, so I saw him there because I
• 30:42
  we waved this stuff and then I mean, I saw a lot of people by I
• 30:47
  recognize and stuff. A lot of people from all.
• 30:49
  Familiar faces, obviously. You there, you know, I mean,
• 30:52
  like, but I I met some new people too.
• 30:56
  Like, people that I hadn't met in person but that just, like
• 30:58
  know me from my my social media, you know, like, hey, can I get a
• 31:03
  picture with you or can we get a picture together?
• 31:05
  That was cool. You know, like just to see
• 31:07
  people out there and that they were there for that experience,
• 31:10
  but they were also like engaged with one another, you know what
• 31:14
  I mean? And that's not, that's pretty
• 31:16
  common with any, you know, like live music event.
• 31:19
  I mean that's nothing new, but I don't know man, like it just it
• 31:21
  felt differently for me than I've been to.
• 31:24
  I mean, I've been to hundreds of live shows, local regional acts.
• 31:30
  All from every spectrum, you know what I mean all across and
• 31:34
  this for me was I don't I I can 100% assuredly say that I've not
• 31:41
  experienced anything. Like what I experienced at a
• 31:45
  Highland, you know, before that that was, that was, that was
• 31:49
  something new for me in the greatest ways possible.
• 31:53
  Yeah. The one thing I didn't get off
• 31:55
  of it, like most people do get off of it sometimes is that
• 31:58
  really high spiritual aspect. But I did get like.
• 32:03
  I did get like, chills, like throughout the whole thing.
• 32:07
  See, I was also mesmerized by all the all the stage men ship
• 32:12
  or you know, the showmanship and the.
• 32:14
  Of everything that was going on, because I I can't only focus on
• 32:17
  one thing at a time. I can't just see the whole
• 32:19
  picture. So I have to look here, then
• 32:21
  I'll miss something over here. Right, right, right.
• 32:23
  Sometimes until some bite. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:27
  It's like you could like, it's like you kind of focus on on the
• 32:30
  on the leads here and then you, you there are the backup seekers
• 32:35
  are doing something crazy over here.
• 32:37
  I know, like, I think it was during.
• 32:39
  I think it was during the. Their their song Proust, where
• 32:45
  where Kai kind of like ritually kills that one warrior with
• 32:51
  that. Where she's like bound behind
• 32:52
  her back and he and he puts the binding.
• 32:56
  I can't remember what it was called, but there was an article
• 32:58
  about that that came in. That was local article that
• 33:06
  talked about that style. Start with the S.
• 33:09
  Yeah, I know what you're talking about and I can't remember the
• 33:11
  name of it, but I did share it. And then Maria comes and she,
• 33:15
  you know, so it was like it was a, it was a ritual in the
• 33:17
  ritual, you know, Kai. And that kind of kills this,
• 33:21
  this this figure. And then Maria comes to like
• 33:24
  resurrect or or or you know provide that that rebirth cycle
• 33:28
  you know and I forget which song it was in but I was also looking
• 33:31
  to the right to where the where the three backup singers they
• 33:37
  were doing an actual seder ritual there almost.
• 33:41
  Yup. With the with this staff.
• 33:44
  With that. This staff.
• 33:45
  Yeah, they were they were doing, that's what that was.
• 33:48
  It was actually a Seder type, or even better mock up or mock up
• 33:53
  of it. No.
• 33:55
  Yeah, you could definitely tell like that was the intent behind
• 33:57
  the that that ritual or that that that segment of the ritual,
• 34:01
  you know and. So yeah, I get it.
• 34:03
  It's like, you know, where do I look at this point?
• 34:05
  You know, like and granted the stage isn't, the stage isn't
• 34:08
  huge, but you don't want to miss anything, you know, and it might
• 34:12
  miss something. If I look to the left versus to
• 34:14
  the right, walk, walk me through, if you don't mind, or
• 34:18
  walk us all through because I'm going to, I'm going to do the
• 34:20
  same, like walk us through the the moment that you, you know,
• 34:25
  left your house or left work, you know, like when you started
• 34:30
  that 45 minute or whatever long. Drive to Huntsville to get
• 34:35
  there, to get parked like and everything that happened from
• 34:38
  the time you got there to the time you entered the to entered
• 34:42
  the venue. Do you remember?
• 34:45
  Yeah, I remember vividly when I did.
• 34:49
  And boy it was some points was some parts of it were more
• 34:54
  intense than others. When I was driving, I just drive
• 35:01
  down the highway like I normally do.
• 35:02
  I was just layering like I think a heavy metal in my car because
• 35:09
  I didn't want to over saturate on on like or folk because I
• 35:13
  wanted to prepare just get my ears.
• 35:16
  What do you call it cleansed of of that before going in.
• 35:20
  Yeah right. You know, it's it's you know,
• 35:26
  it's like cleansing the palate is what I was saying for your
• 35:29
  ears. So I start heading over to the
• 35:33
  metering. But The thing is, I I headed
• 35:37
  there late. I went there kind of late.
• 35:39
  Then I wanted to go because before I left the house I had a
• 35:43
  massive migraine. Oh, wow.
• 35:47
  You bet around one to two, 1:00 to 2:00.
• 35:50
  So I took a nap from like 1:00 to 3:00, and then I left.
• 35:55
  I went, well, actually, I woke up about 2:30 and I got dressed
• 35:59
  in my garbage stuff, which I regret wearing that big heavy
• 36:04
  wool cloak I wore. It was hot that day, dude.
• 36:07
  I mean, yeah, I had to. I had to fold it.
• 36:10
  Well, The thing is, I had to fold it over, oh, about halfway
• 36:14
  just to get it off the off the floor enough, even when it was
• 36:17
  sideways. Because The thing is, if it was
• 36:20
  just a probably a bit more bearable if it was just a single
• 36:23
  layer, but I just folded it to make a double layer and that's
• 36:26
  what was insulating me. Yeah you got that weight and
• 36:30
  extra layer yeah yeah. So and I'm still learning how to
• 36:33
  work it where I because it's a it's a personal preference kind
• 36:37
  of thing to to use is what I was I've watched and stuff of how
• 36:42
  the how to wear it. It's like there's no right or
• 36:44
  wrong. It's just however your personal
• 36:45
  preference is. I still got to figure out how to
• 36:48
  work it though where it suits me.
• 36:52
  Either that are going to have to cut it down.
• 36:58
  So you started your, you started your journey coming off of the
• 37:03
  the the effects of a migraine headache.
• 37:05
  Yeah, it was. It was still slight headache
• 37:08
  there a little bit as I was driving, but it was, it was as
• 37:13
  intense as it was. Did you take anything prior to
• 37:16
  like, did you take anything to try to?
• 37:18
  Yeah, I took like Tylenol. Yeah, yeah, basically I can't.
• 37:25
  I usually take, I my go to used to be like Aleve or or ibuprofen
• 37:30
  like Advil or something, but my my antidepressant is not really
• 37:38
  good with that, those two kind of medications.
• 37:41
  So I didn't want to risk it. So I'm still taking Tylenol now
• 37:44
  because I don't want to risk any ill effects from.
• 37:49
  Sure, taking that. So I took the I took like once
• 37:52
  in the morning when I woke up. Oh yeah, that's something else.
• 37:57
  I forgot to tell you. The prior to that to everything
• 38:00
  else too. I'm sorry if I circle back here,
• 38:03
  but before I that morning I went, I went to a friend of mine
• 38:06
  who did a tarot reading because I was trying to figure out I've
• 38:15
  been having this spiritual What do you call this association for
• 38:23
  a longest time since I moved, even moved in here.
• 38:25
  My heart practice has suffered because of that and I hadn't
• 38:30
  did. I haven't done anything except
• 38:33
  my I hadn't set my altars up until a couple weeks ago, and
• 38:41
  because I was, because I was trying to plan on cleansing the
• 38:46
  space. But the people who said they
• 38:47
  would help me never help me, and it took a while and stuff.
• 38:52
  They gave me all these different marching orders and stuff that
• 38:56
  didn't make sense sometimes because I couldn't find the
• 38:58
  materials necessary. Really.
• 39:02
  Yeah. Like they said, like a candle
• 39:04
  that burned beeswax candle that burns for 9 days straight.
• 39:10
  What's oddly specific I know, but I get it.
• 39:14
  Yeah, I get it. I think it's also part of her
• 39:15
  practice as well because it's it sounds like a part of her
• 39:19
  practice that she does with a nine day visual.
• 39:23
  Yeah, that sounds very specific to certain practices, you know
• 39:27
  where they it has to be a very specific thing and and and and
• 39:30
  all of that. But yeah, I get it.
• 39:32
  But yeah, I But then I last week I or the week before Last week I
• 39:37
  decided the best thing to do is just the the.
• 39:41
  I had a friend come over, the one that ran my cards.
• 39:45
  She's the one who cleansed this place back in September and I
• 39:50
  started set building the spaces and stuff.
• 39:53
  I just got regular paraffin candles the week before.
• 39:56
  Before last week, about the Wednesday before actually.
• 40:01
  And I just did a dedication to each of my spaces.
• 40:06
  Yeah. To my main altar and I have two
• 40:08
  altars at my main altar and my. Ancestral altar, OK.
• 40:14
  So because I wanted to keep those separate, right?
• 40:18
  Makes sense? So I did that.
• 40:23
  And then wait. So you did that the day of.
• 40:28
  Week A week before? A week before before.
• 40:30
  OK, gotcha. Before the Highline concert,
• 40:32
  which was on Wednesday and then. But then because I thinking that
• 40:37
  I need to follow my own intuition instead of what other
• 40:40
  people tell me. Yeah, and that's what came,
• 40:43
  that's what, that's what came up in the reading.
• 40:45
  It's by the way in that reading and confirmed what I was
• 40:51
  thinking all along. So after that I go home, I
• 40:59
  think, or go get food or something, I believe, and I come
• 41:02
  back. You know, take care of
• 41:04
  Jefferson, which is my dog. Nobody, nobody else, knows who
• 41:09
  it is. I got to meet him off.
• 41:12
  Yeah, you met him off screen. But I forgot.
• 41:14
  I forgot nobody else knew. It's my three-year old Pitbull
• 41:18
  that I got out back in before August, so they adopted.
• 41:26
  So he's he's a new member to the hearth here.
• 41:32
  But I walked in as A and and I believe I started getting that
• 41:38
  headache, that migraine, and really badly because I had the
• 41:41
  headache before and I took more Tylenol and then I went to bed.
• 41:44
  I went to bed for about an hour and a half to two hours.
• 41:48
  And then I woke up, got ready and started driving, and then I
• 41:56
  ended up going to the metery there at Ravenwood.
• 42:02
  And to see what their pre show thing was all about.
• 42:06
  You know The thing is the owner, Roo Klein, who owns it, she
• 42:14
  actually knew. She actually knows me.
• 42:16
  She's met me before because she used to be a part of the old
• 42:20
  Kindred that I was a part of like 2 Kindreds ago.
• 42:24
  Yeah, because I've been Roof for several years.
• 42:28
  Yeah, and. Because we talked, she was like
• 42:32
  she was. I'm glad to see that I was
• 42:33
  coming to The Wicker Man was supposed to on Friday.
• 42:37
  We just got pushed back to a different day, fire ban and all
• 42:41
  that, yeah. Yeah, she was saying that she
• 42:44
  was because I was asking questions on the on the
• 42:48
  meadery's page on Facebook and Rue recognized me and said long
• 42:54
  time no see and. She gave me some information
• 42:58
  about that, but she didn't say hello.
• 43:00
  She was so busy that day. She didn't even say hello during
• 43:03
  that that party and stuff, because I wouldn't even say
• 43:06
  anything either because I was like I just said, you're being
• 43:09
  quiet. But I also talked to a few
• 43:11
  people as well and then I did. They did the hair braid thing
• 43:14
  and I saw I got the hair braid that you saw during the before
• 43:20
  the concert is they were doing that.
• 43:23
  I didn't. I think I had.
• 43:25
  I didn't have time for the face painting part, so I didn't do
• 43:28
  that right. So what I did after Rue and the
• 43:36
  main people left, that's why I said, well, I better get going.
• 43:42
  So I went to the So I started going.
• 43:46
  Took me about a hundred tries to find parking because I had a
• 43:51
  circle around 50 detours. Yeah, we did a, we did a.
• 43:56
  We did a loop ourselves when we first got there.
• 43:59
  Yeah, I did. I did a loop.
• 44:00
  Then I went because I asked people, I asked people where was
• 44:04
  I found the parking spaces that was on the BBC official spaces
• 44:09
  on Clinton St. there. And I asked them where it would
• 44:12
  be if they're all full, like where to be the closest parking
• 44:15
  to the Marcy Smith concert hall, which is being held.
• 44:18
  And she said this one, this particular place.
• 44:21
  Well, I didn't see it going there and I went past it and I
• 44:25
  saw another one. It's on Clinton, right?
• 44:28
  Yeah, it was, yeah, yeah. And it's right next to the the
• 44:34
  concert hall there. I didn't see that one.
• 44:37
  I I went past. I went to the one that says the
• 44:39
  jury selection place or something.
• 44:43
  You know it's a it's it's one more down about four blocks away
• 44:48
  from the from where we were at. So I had to walk four blocks.
• 44:51
  The thing is, I went around about several times because I
• 44:55
  there's so many one way streets there, you know, right.
• 44:58
  The thing is, I don't know why I can't navigate downtown
• 45:01
  Huntsville, but I could. But when I went to the
• 45:06
  Charleston last year, last summer, I with with my ex, I
• 45:13
  could I I could find my way around, even though there was
• 45:17
  one way streets there too. So it's like a little bit of a
• 45:22
  little bit of a of an adventure for you.
• 45:25
  Yeah, everybody has a everybody's downtown.
• 45:28
  Every major city's downtown area has one way streets, right?
• 45:32
  A bunch of them that you can't circle back and you have to
• 45:35
  figure out how to get back to where you were at.
• 45:38
  Yeah, it's like I need to get right there.
• 45:40
  But no, you got to go a half a mile this way to get there again
• 45:42
  because. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:43
  So yeah, I went. So I went down parking.
• 45:47
  I. Took me a while.
• 45:48
  I get put on my app so I can figure out where the concert
• 45:52
  hall it was to where I can walk to it.
• 45:55
  I thought I passed about 6 times I guess.
• 45:58
  I don't think I did. I didn't.
• 45:59
  I didn't actually do it. I just just stopped and I
• 46:05
  thought I I thought I passed it walking and stuff.
• 46:07
  But I was like, no, it's a little further.
• 46:09
  It's a little further. It's a little further.
• 46:10
  And then I found and then I found it by going down and asked
• 46:14
  people where it was. That stuff.
• 46:16
  And. They showed me where it was at,
• 46:17
  and then I found it. And then I went inside and I got
• 46:20
  in line, found the lines like because I was making sure it
• 46:24
  wasn't different lines for the different portals, you know?
• 46:30
  Yeah. It was just one single line when
• 46:34
  we got there, we were we got there like you I I talked to you
• 46:38
  and and you were in line and then we had been sitting in the
• 46:41
  parking lot. But I'm just like well, they say
• 46:43
  doors are an hour before. So I'm like, do we go in, do we
• 46:45
  not? No.
• 46:47
  The white, Yeah. See, even even Rue Klein, they
• 46:54
  took pictures of it beforehand. They they were in the front, in
• 46:57
  the wall. They got, they got their, they
• 47:00
  got, they found their way there and got there earlier.
• 47:04
  Yeah, which if you've got like standings, you know, like
• 47:06
  general admission, orchestra, whatever, the standing room
• 47:11
  tickets, I would say that if you had that, you would definitely
• 47:14
  want to be there early to get a good spot close to the stage,
• 47:18
  right? If you're standing, we had
• 47:19
  seats. I'm like it really didn't matter
• 47:22
  where I was in line. As long as I get to be there
• 47:24
  before the show starts. You know if all as long as I'm
• 47:26
  indoors an hour before the show starts and I think I'm.
• 47:29
  Good. And honestly, I wasn't.
• 47:32
  I wasn't too bummed out that I got seats either, because I was
• 47:36
  like, I don't really. This is not a band I would like
• 47:39
  to stand for right now. You know, like I would like to
• 47:43
  sit because I have an extremely orgoraphobic, you know, and
• 47:46
  being right. But plus you get a better
• 47:50
  vantage point when you're up in the seated area, right?
• 47:53
  You get to see more of everything.
• 47:55
  Yeah. And I heard that it was like, it
• 47:57
  was like like an amphitheater, kind of like setting it's tilted
• 48:01
  upwards. So that was like I looked at it
• 48:05
  and like these everybody says it doesn't matter where you're at,
• 48:08
  you have good seat views from the.
• 48:11
  No matter what. And so I found wrote after
• 48:15
  because it took me a while to find seats.
• 48:16
  The seats I believe you got, I was going to go after.
• 48:20
  But The thing is they wouldn't let me split two seats.
• 48:27
  They won't they? If he had it seemed like he had
• 48:30
  three, four seats and you put one in the middle between one
• 48:33
  seat to another. They didn't want you to do that.
• 48:35
  It would put they won't you on the ends, right?
• 48:38
  Of of that section. So it took me a lot of bouncing
• 48:43
  around trying to get the tickets there, but I finally got those
• 48:45
  tickets and I wasn't disappointed where I was at
• 48:51
  good. Because I could see things fine.
• 48:53
  I could see us all where you were at.
• 48:55
  I could see everybody on the floor.
• 48:57
  I can see. I can see all the way across the
• 48:59
  hall. Sometime in the in the you were
• 49:02
  seated. We were seated as close as you
• 49:06
  could get to the stage without being on the floor.
• 49:08
  The last front row before the orchestra pit area, you know.
• 49:13
  Yeah, a friend of mine got tickets close to there too.
• 49:16
  And like, I think she got row A. That's where we were.
• 49:20
  We were row. A Yeah, she yeah, she was 2 year
• 49:22
  old. She was like a like 2 year old.
• 49:24
  Rats. Was her name Kit or Katie or Kit
• 49:28
  or something like that, 'cause there were some people that,
• 49:31
  yeah, there were some people that were like, I'm right next
• 49:33
  to you there that whatever that, you know?
• 49:35
  Well, she's called Kit online right now, but she's her.
• 49:40
  I think her real name is I am. I'm not going to disclose her
• 49:42
  real name, but. Yeah, she was also when my old
• 49:47
  kid proved with mates at one point I think she wants to do a
• 49:51
  get together and do a yo blot very good coming at this coming
• 49:57
  season because she was wanting to put that together And I said
• 50:00
  how important if we do it like on the tradition, the
• 50:02
  traditional time which is about the 20 near the 25th of January.
• 50:08
  Yep, Yep. That's when we're our tribe's
• 50:10
  doing our thing. Well, we're doing ours because
• 50:12
  the 25th falls on like a Thursday, so.
• 50:15
  We're going to do our thing on that, like Saturday or whatever.
• 50:18
  Yeah, that's what we're probably thinking about doing as well,
• 50:20
  because I don't have a tribe right now anymore because ours
• 50:24
  is standing up back in May. But the last one we had.
• 50:28
  And so I'm just doing what we I just called, wandering around
• 50:32
  and finding them within the community and figuring out where
• 50:35
  I was like to then where there's a lot of that going around.
• 50:40
  And who has my best interests is what I'm looking for.
• 50:43
  Yeah, definitely. So.
• 50:45
  And I'm glad to hear that you had like a really interesting
• 50:48
  journey there to, you know, not just at the event but like
• 50:51
  everything leading up to the event.
• 50:52
  And you know, I got to say like for somebody that I deal with
• 50:56
  migraines periodically, they can be, it could be crippling man.
• 51:00
  Like they can put your own And out for the count.
• 51:04
  There's no way possible that you can even think of even standing
• 51:07
  up, let alone drive or anything like that.
• 51:10
  So the fact that, you know you caught it early on you took some
• 51:12
  stuff and there was, you know you're.
• 51:14
  Able to get that was like pray, like go away, please, yeah.
• 51:19
  Yeah, go away. And I had an ice pack on, you
• 51:23
  know, I had gotten where darkened my rooms as as much as
• 51:30
  I could. Got the fan going.
• 51:33
  Yep. Cold.
• 51:35
  Dark. Yeah, that's just like the.
• 51:37
  Best I strip down, I strip down like to the bare minimal and so
• 51:42
  I can get cold, cold on me because I think I I think it was
• 51:47
  like a heated, I mean maybe that's been just a migraine.
• 51:49
  Maybe it's also been like a heated a heat thing too, because
• 51:53
  it was pretty warm that that afternoon that before noon and
• 51:57
  being out there probably triggered that.
• 52:01
  It could have, It could have, you know.
• 52:02
  You're riding me or running around doing errands and stuff,
• 52:05
  right? Morning.
• 52:07
  I know. When we left, when we left, when
• 52:09
  we left Tennessee. My wife and I, we left like
• 52:15
  round two in the afternoon, you know?
• 52:17
  Yeah, 'cause it was about a two hour drive from us, you know,
• 52:20
  and we took kind of the scenic route through like Tullahoma,
• 52:24
  Lynchburg, that area, right. We didn't go down 65.
• 52:26
  We, we we took the back roads and stuff all the way through a
• 52:28
  really nice scenic area. So that was kind of a cool pre
• 52:32
  ritual ritual, right? Getting to experience the more
• 52:38
  you know pristine scenery you know, versus just like a
• 52:42
  highway. And then you know we get there
• 52:45
  and it's like well shit you know when we're here and it's 3 hours
• 52:49
  before the doors open, we got there like 4 and they're like in
• 52:51
  the show doesn't start till 8 and you know doors don't open
• 52:54
  till 7. So like what do we do to kill
• 52:56
  time? And so we we looked across from
• 53:01
  like the venue there. I don't know if you know if like
• 53:03
  when you got there, if you noticed it was daylight, but
• 53:04
  there was like this body of water, like a little lake or
• 53:07
  something area. Yeah, it's good.
• 53:10
  It's a good spring park park or right there and I don't know if
• 53:14
  you've walked there like so we walked around it right and they
• 53:18
  got this like little you know footbridge that goes over and
• 53:20
  like these little like monuments and and artsy type stuff and
• 53:25
  I've. Only been there one time.
• 53:27
  I've only been there one time because they they used to
• 53:29
  usually have what's called the Big Spring jam there.
• 53:32
  OK? And I saw like, Buckcherry
• 53:34
  there, and Avish 7th Pole was supposed to play there that
• 53:38
  night, but it was that was a year in Shadows just completely
• 53:40
  destroyed his voice. Oh, I see.
• 53:44
  Like that's what you get for not doing your exercises.
• 53:47
  Yeah, you know that's that's the thing.
• 53:49
  You know, we we, we, we did, we walked around and like it was
• 53:53
  neat because even though it's kind of like in the city, you
• 53:57
  got like ducks and fish and and and all the, you know, spirits
• 54:01
  of nature that are there. And we're walking around and we
• 54:06
  would find feathers, like duck feathers, you know, which are
• 54:09
  prolific. But walking around that space
• 54:15
  was a bit of a ritual in itself. We we collect the duck feathers.
• 54:18
  My wife found a ribbon. She like created this little
• 54:21
  flower like bouquet, almost like what you would do with flowers.
• 54:24
  But instead it was feathers, you know.
• 54:28
  And that was all leading up to the moment prior of of entering
• 54:35
  the venue, you know before it got, you know before the sun
• 54:38
  started going down, we started thinking about going inside and
• 54:40
  getting back in. So that was like a neat
• 54:43
  transition point of you know, we, we we go on this journey, we
• 54:46
  we travel, we arrive and we find a place that's, you know there's
• 54:51
  there's a lot of people and yeah it's in a city, but it was very
• 54:54
  nature focused, you know what I mean?
• 54:56
  And and they were the spirits of nature that were around and I
• 54:59
  think going into something like high lung, having that to kind
• 55:04
  of set the tone for you, at least for us going into that was
• 55:09
  was beautiful and we didn't plan for that cause again, we've
• 55:11
  never been to that area before. We hadn't been to that venue.
• 55:15
  And so we didn't know it was just like, Oh well, here it is.
• 55:19
  Let's go explore, let's go check it out.
• 55:21
  Yeah, he threw me off as it has changed so much.
• 55:25
  And then all that construction's just throwing me off because
• 55:27
  I've been there a couple times. I've been there a couple times
• 55:30
  and I've I mostly go to the arena for the arena stuff.
• 55:34
  I went to the Playhouse one time to see Gallagher.
• 55:39
  Nice. I know he's still doing stuff.
• 55:42
  Oh he's he's not doing. He was he was.
• 55:44
  He's not well, he's he's passed on right now but but I mean like
• 55:48
  back then like I don't know how long ago that was but.
• 55:50
  That was, that was at least 10 or 15 years ago.
• 55:53
  Oh, OK. OK.
• 55:55
  That was that was I mean you can I mean.
• 55:57
  Things team early 20s years, early 20s.
• 55:59
  When that happened, yeah, I mean 10 or 15 years ago, man, that
• 56:01
  was a whole different. Area Yeah.
• 56:04
  Oh yeah. It's like things have changed
• 56:06
  and and they actually got where it's lit up now like.
• 56:12
  We all got the the like the blue lights on the stand on the arena
• 56:16
  Dome around the outside. So and this is after they and
• 56:21
  they I think the because you have the Mars Music Hall which
• 56:24
  they just built couple or just finished a couple of about a
• 56:30
  year or two ago wish they had to close it down briefly because it
• 56:35
  because part of it collapsed. Before they had to, until they
• 56:40
  got, until they got the, I think.
• 56:41
  I think it was like the awning outside collapsed or something
• 56:46
  and they had and they had to make sure it was secure and
• 56:48
  safe. Requires it.
• 56:51
  So and it was funny because the the Sunday before that at at
• 56:58
  there with war came. I didn't I didn't even go to
• 57:04
  that one. I was like, should we go and
• 57:06
  take a? Yeah, I haven't seen.
• 57:09
  I haven't seen gore life. I was like, I was debating
• 57:12
  whether I want to go see Gore Life.
• 57:13
  I was like, no, Halo's right near that time frame.
• 57:16
  I'm like, Dang. I was like one extreme from one
• 57:20
  extreme to the other. Yeah, and a little prefix here.
• 57:24
  I took the I took Wednesday through Friday off work vacation
• 57:28
  time for Highland. Yeah, not just for Highland, but
• 57:31
  for I took. I was going to take off that
• 57:34
  Thursday to the recover from. How long?
• 57:37
  Because I didn't know how late we're going to get back out of
• 57:39
  there out of the show and stuff. And I know that I've got now
• 57:45
  shows as late as 2:00 in the morning.
• 57:48
  And I was preparing for that and then I was like, well, if I'm
• 57:51
  going to do that I might as well take Wednesday off to prepare.
• 57:55
  So as they're like well I'm taking Wednesday and Thursday
• 57:57
  off and I have an event I had the Wicker Man Friday, so I
• 58:00
  might as well take the Friday off too.
• 58:02
  Just making the whole half week take a half week and.
• 58:06
  Just chill for the right reasons, you know what I mean?
• 58:10
  Like I think going into something like high long like if
• 58:12
  you can for anybody that listens and watches.
• 58:15
  I I forget how many days are left on their their their U.S.
• 58:18
  tour at this point when this gets aired or if it'll be
• 58:22
  finished. But like, if you if you haven't
• 58:25
  made it out to high long on this tour, when they do come around
• 58:29
  again, I think anybody that listens and watches that is as
• 58:34
  even remotely thinking about going, make the necessary
• 58:37
  preparations to get to the one that's closest to where you are.
• 58:42
  Right when I when I saw Highland last week, I was like kind of
• 58:48
  like silently kicking myself for having not seen them the last
• 58:51
  two times they've come here, even though they haven't come.
• 58:56
  Like the closest I think they've come in my proximity was
• 59:01
  probably Chicago or maybe North Carolina.
• 59:04
  And I'm like, why didn't I go and see them before and
• 59:07
  experience this before, right? If you if you know in advance
• 59:12
  when they're coming right and and they're in like 500 miles
• 59:15
  let's say and I and I and that's a big area.
• 59:20
  Right. It was in a 500 mile radius.
• 59:23
  If there's a if it's a 500 mile radius, I don't know man.
• 59:26
  Like plan it, figure it out I think the I think.
• 59:29
  The farthest I've driven was like 250.
• 59:34
  Oh, I've gone to Chicago. I mean, I've I've driven, I've
• 59:36
  driven 800 miles one way for for for one concert.
• 59:41
  I've never flown on a plane to go to a concert yet, but.
• 59:46
  I said that I would never before in the past to go places, but
• 59:51
  but it's not. It's more than just a concert,
• 59:53
  right? Like and that's the thing.
• 59:55
  It's like it there there's. It's like a ritual in itself.
• 1:00:00
  Yeah, it it's a whole ritual, you know, And being in the same
• 1:00:04
  enclosure with other people, even if you don't know them,
• 1:00:07
  like everybody has this kind of understanding of what's going
• 1:00:10
  on. And you may have never met them
• 1:00:11
  before, you've never counted them before, but you meet under
• 1:00:15
  this canopy, under the same central area, and everybody just
• 1:00:18
  kind of knows how to behave. They know how to be great and
• 1:00:22
  they know how to act. And they know.
• 1:00:25
  The person that I was talking to to my left that was sitting next
• 1:00:28
  to me, he he was, he told me he was Christian.
• 1:00:33
  Really. Yeah, And he was talking about
• 1:00:35
  it and everything. And then throughout the whole
• 1:00:38
  concert, he was acting like a Pagan.
• 1:00:41
  He was hollering, he was howling.
• 1:00:43
  He was doing all sorts of stuff. I'm like, you don't think this
• 1:00:49
  is a full Pagan? Rituals, like everything you
• 1:00:51
  know. I did make one mistake.
• 1:00:53
  I did. What make one mistake though?
• 1:00:55
  When I when I do it, I usually have a force of habit of
• 1:00:58
  recording whenever they first come off with the bands first
• 1:01:01
  come on sometimes. And then I realized this is a
• 1:01:04
  ritual. So I immediately shut my phone
• 1:01:07
  off. Well, that's off, but turn off
• 1:01:09
  the recording and deleted the video of the I recorded a
• 1:01:14
  little. Bit, yeah.
• 1:01:16
  And and The funny thing is, is like, I wasn't trying to record
• 1:01:18
  a lot, I was just mainly trying to get like pictures.
• 1:01:22
  Yeah, me too. Well, I didn't want to get
• 1:01:23
  pictures. I was trying to just get video,
• 1:01:24
  a few videos, but they were really, they were really strict
• 1:01:28
  about it, Like, oh, you can't have your phone up for more than
• 1:01:30
  10 seconds. I'm like, OK, that's an odd, you
• 1:01:36
  know, like, but I get it right and I respect.
• 1:01:38
  It well, like I'm even forcing it from where I was sitting
• 1:01:41
  because those people was holding it for 5 minutes.
• 1:01:43
  I had the 5 minutes and down by where I was, they were like I
• 1:01:47
  had, I had one of their guys come up to me.
• 1:01:48
  He's like, I'm telling you 10 seconds.
• 1:01:50
  I'm like, you know what? At this point I'm just putting
• 1:01:52
  my phone away because it was early on in the show.
• 1:01:55
  Yeah, it was early on in the thing and I'm like, yeah, you
• 1:01:57
  know what? I got what I needed.
• 1:01:58
  I'm good. Let me let me let me focus.
• 1:02:01
  On I wish I got pictures too, but I just like, I just got a
• 1:02:05
  few video of just two big big video of good sized videos of
• 1:02:11
  part of it, you know. And I deleted what one which was
• 1:02:17
  during the opening ceremony because I realized that was.
• 1:02:21
  A Pagan Richard? I didn't record any of the
• 1:02:23
  opening ceremony. Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  And I realized I shouldn't have done that because I realized
• 1:02:28
  that's the space I didn't want to want to record.
• 1:02:31
  Yeah. And then so I'll kick myself
• 1:02:34
  from doing that. But I made it.
• 1:02:35
  I made the corrections to. Yeah, necessary steps to that.
• 1:02:39
  So that's a little confession of mine.
• 1:02:41
  But we're always sitting. I had a confession too because I
• 1:02:46
  was like, I'm literally front row.
• 1:02:48
  I'm row A, you know, and they start like when when it's, you
• 1:02:53
  know, Hari Gusty Taiwas and they start playing in Mighty on
• 1:02:58
  right. And I'm like, I stand up and I'm
• 1:03:00
  getting into it and I stood there for like the whole full
• 1:03:02
  thing. And then I hear this tap on my
• 1:03:04
  or I feel this tap on my shoulder and the guy behind me
• 1:03:06
  is like, hey man, you mind sitting down because like people
• 1:03:08
  3 rows behind you can't see. And I'm like.
• 1:03:13
  I didn't see anybody's had to show up, but people are
• 1:03:15
  wondering if we're all going to stand there, you know, or just
• 1:03:19
  sit, you know? I just figured that they would,
• 1:03:21
  but understanding. Yeah, well, the girl that was
• 1:03:24
  next to my right, the woman that, the woman that was next to
• 1:03:27
  my right was asking that same question.
• 1:03:28
  Like, are we supposed to stand? Are we going to sit?
• 1:03:32
  And then as soon as they started, like, I guess we're
• 1:03:34
  sitting. Yeah, you kind of have to read
• 1:03:38
  the room. But being in the front there, I
• 1:03:40
  couldn't read the room, the device in the back of my head
• 1:03:42
  and I didn't. You know, in hindsight, if you
• 1:03:45
  guys are sitting in the front row and it's a seating sort of
• 1:03:48
  place, be respectful of the people around behind you because
• 1:03:52
  you're going to be in trance, you're going to be taken up in
• 1:03:54
  the moment and you're going to be feeling it.
• 1:03:56
  But be respectful of the people around you and behind you,
• 1:03:59
  because if they can't see it, they're not experiencing it in
• 1:04:01
  their way. So let you know.
• 1:04:03
  Be respectful, everybody. And once I did that, it was the
• 1:04:06
  last time again, it wasn't bad. Like they were cool about it.
• 1:04:09
  Just, hey man, do you mind sitting down?
• 1:04:11
  Yeah, sure, no problem. Sorry about that.
• 1:04:12
  Yeah, it was the last time I went to, the last time I last
• 1:04:16
  time I was at amphitheater like that.
• 1:04:17
  Kind of like it's what it was more of an outdoor amphitheater.
• 1:04:20
  It was for. It was a sort of a metal
• 1:04:22
  concert. It was actually to see corn,
• 1:04:25
  while way different, they were, they were down, they were down
• 1:04:29
  in Hoover and we went down to that show.
• 1:04:31
  And everybody was standing, even we had seats we were sitting.
• 1:04:36
  We sat down for the during the in between the bands and stuff
• 1:04:40
  but and we're while we're waiting on the show to start but
• 1:04:43
  everybody was standing. Well, I think everybody did
• 1:04:48
  eventually stand up, at least for I think it was the closing
• 1:04:51
  part, the Hummer hippier. Hummer Hippier set set of the of
• 1:04:55
  the ritual, right, like where everyone's dancing on stage.
• 1:04:59
  That was almost like an invitation, like every fucking
• 1:05:01
  body. Get up and dance, you know.
• 1:05:03
  Well, they were. Telling everybody to get They
• 1:05:04
  were. Telling everybody to give up.
• 1:05:07
  They were emotions like they were like hell.
• 1:05:10
  Yeah, yeah, everybody started doing it.
• 1:05:11
  And everybody, they were like, you know, it's like they were
• 1:05:14
  trying to Rev up, the Rev up the people to cut up to start
• 1:05:19
  getting active during this part, right?
• 1:05:22
  Because this is a a community sort of thing, right?
• 1:05:25
  Like, be a part of it. Dance with us, you know?
• 1:05:28
  And you had to be where you had to be where I was.
• 1:05:31
  I was in the perfect position, too, because the right top
• 1:05:34
  speaker, yeah, it's like you got, it's kind of like a like a
• 1:05:38
  bow, kind of like, well, the bottom section of it was like
• 1:05:41
  aimed right at me, right here. And I could feel that drum beat
• 1:05:47
  just hit my chest every single time.
• 1:05:51
  Did you get emotional at all during the show?
• 1:05:53
  During during the. Yeah, I got goosebumps, Like
• 1:05:57
  goosebumps. Some of my emotions were there.
• 1:05:59
  I didn't have, like, the alibi ritual experience like some
• 1:06:01
  people have. You know, I went through like a
• 1:06:05
  kind of a roller coaster of emotions, you know?
• 1:06:07
  Like there were, there were, there were moments where I felt
• 1:06:09
  like just so alive, like just so empowered.
• 1:06:13
  And then there were times where I was, like, brought to tears a
• 1:06:15
  little bit, you know? And then there was the joy.
• 1:06:18
  There was this happiness. There was this, you know,
• 1:06:21
  euphoric kind of feeling of of experiencing what I'm
• 1:06:24
  experiencing and realizing that what they put into their craft
• 1:06:30
  is so genuine. You know, it's like this isn't
• 1:06:36
  for show. You know what I mean?
• 1:06:38
  Like, sure it's a show. It is.
• 1:06:39
  It is a show. It is a.
• 1:06:41
  It's like performance theater almost.
• 1:06:43
  It is. It's absolutely that.
• 1:06:44
  It's it's Ritual theater. It's the Performance theater.
• 1:06:47
  It's it's it's as pure and as genuine that they can get and
• 1:06:53
  and to keep it that way, having the fame having the audience
• 1:06:59
  right. Having the diversity that their
• 1:07:02
  crowd generates that's that's amazing.
• 1:07:07
  You know what I mean? Because I think one of the
• 1:07:08
  things that at least in modern Paganism you know people get a
• 1:07:12
  little gun shy about is having ritual or or holding ritual with
• 1:07:18
  people who you don't know. You know and I think in the in
• 1:07:23
  the in the context of a practicing heathen or practicing
• 1:07:26
  Pagan, right, that that still needs to be something kept at A
• 1:07:30
  at a close and and and boundaries need to be set and
• 1:07:34
  maintained. But like Highland, just, I don't
• 1:07:42
  know like it it was. I wouldn't say that I walked
• 1:07:45
  away there feeling any different as a heathen.
• 1:07:49
  As a Pagan myself I I think that what I walked away with feeling
• 1:07:55
  was just nurtured. You know what I mean?
• 1:07:58
  Like, yeah, I felt I felt more revived.
• 1:08:01
  Like I felt like my my Heatha hasn't had more revived.
• 1:08:05
  That it was like the start of my like a rebirth of my of my path
• 1:08:09
  there. Because I had came into the that
• 1:08:12
  revelation I told earlier about me trying to follow my own
• 1:08:17
  intuition on this and that the inaction, the inaction of not
• 1:08:22
  doing anything in my home that's caused that disconnect and
• 1:08:27
  stagnation, you mean? Yeah, and The thing is just
• 1:08:32
  after the tarot reading and stuff after Halon.
• 1:08:34
  The next evening I had I went back to the to the metery again
• 1:08:39
  and that's when I started talking with Rue more because
• 1:08:42
  she now noticed that I was there, you know because I had AI
• 1:08:44
  had a Rue reading with that with Karen who was visiting in
• 1:08:49
  Florida and she read it and it confirmed what my friends Tara
• 1:08:54
  read session just came out but a little bit more deep more a
• 1:09:00
  little bit different details but the same concepts and.
• 1:09:04
  Same summary, same same summary though.
• 1:09:08
  And it put a whole, and both of those been a whole new
• 1:09:11
  perspective the way I'm, I'm doing things now.
• 1:09:16
  So it was a really big ritual week and that's why I'm so
• 1:09:20
  exhausted right now. It's just like I've had only
• 1:09:24
  about 6 hour sleep days. Because I couldn't.
• 1:09:29
  I couldn't. It was one thing my sleep
• 1:09:31
  cycles. It's just completely whack,
• 1:09:33
  'cause I'm used, so used to waking up in the mornings, you
• 1:09:35
  know, that if I even go to bed late, I can't sleep in past a
• 1:09:40
  certain time. Yeah, your circadian rhythm gets
• 1:09:44
  set, you know? Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  Yeah, it's like you had a pretty you had, you've had, well, you
• 1:09:50
  know all. For all intents and purposes,
• 1:09:52
  you've had almost nearly a week long, to varying degrees ritual
• 1:09:56
  experience. So yeah, and then it kind of.
• 1:10:01
  Die down about Saturday night, during winter nights as I was
• 1:10:06
  doing it myself, because I went to the Rim fair before that.
• 1:10:09
  Didn't even stay that long because I was not.
• 1:10:13
  I was running on so little sleep, you know, because what
• 1:10:17
  happened was we had a the we had the rain ritual Friday.
• 1:10:24
  And then, after the rain ritual, I went to see a a friend of
• 1:10:27
  mine's band played the last time at the Copper Top in that in
• 1:10:30
  Huntsville. And they they were supposed to
• 1:10:33
  go on at 12:30, but they get to go on till about 1130.
• 1:10:37
  So they were they cut their own set a little bit short and they
• 1:10:43
  canceled the the costume contest, which annoyed the hell.
• 1:10:49
  I mean, because I was in my ritual guard, you know, I have a
• 1:10:53
  room paid on my forehead and stuff.
• 1:10:57
  Our mind room actually paid on my forehead for the rain ritual.
• 1:11:00
  I come in and people are sitting there thinking I'm Jesus.
• 1:11:06
  I look like Jesus. I have a a horn.
• 1:11:09
  The thing is, I couldn't carry my.
• 1:11:10
  I didn't want to carry my axe inside, you know.
• 1:11:12
  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're the you're, you're,
• 1:11:15
  you're, you're the Jesus that was portrayed in the Halian.
• 1:11:19
  You're the Germanic Jesus. Yeah, but I I've always I'm
• 1:11:23
  using you're the I should be used to this by now because.
• 1:11:26
  Well, I happened to hold it in so long because my since my beer
• 1:11:29
  has grown out. But when I had it really shorter
• 1:11:32
  ever since I had my beard when I was growing out, it was full.
• 1:11:36
  It was like, you look like Jesus and I'll be like don't tell
• 1:11:41
  anybody I'm here. I'm on vacation.
• 1:11:42
  You want holiday? I'm on holiday.
• 1:11:48
  I try to get. I try to get away from get away
• 1:11:50
  from God. He's annoying ass all the time.
• 1:11:56
  Talking about crying for people's sins and shit.
• 1:11:59
  Whatever. He grabbed me a couple of times
• 1:12:01
  and like you ain't in charge of me.
• 1:12:08
  But yeah, I mean that they they have that riffer too.
• 1:12:10
  Somebody said that I was like, Jesus with the riffer.
• 1:12:12
  I'm like, but here's the thing, I had my axe with me that time,
• 1:12:15
  my my big stigox on me and but The thing is I got to give me a
• 1:12:19
  tunic that's different colors than than that.
• 1:12:22
  I got to get a little bit of that or something.
• 1:12:27
  Yeah. I had to have a little bit of
• 1:12:28
  variety, I don't think. I don't think I'd not get.
• 1:12:32
  After this year I'm retiring the living leg rats because they
• 1:12:35
  don't stay up on me at all. I'm going to actually get wool
• 1:12:37
  because they clean better. Yeah.
• 1:12:41
  But also with the other thing that was killing it too is I'm
• 1:12:43
  wearing go in combat boots that flare out a little bit more.
• 1:12:46
  So taper down like your traditional style style.
• 1:12:52
  Age boots they have from the the time period.
• 1:12:55
  Yeah, yeah. So that was a great story, dude.
• 1:12:59
  I mean, I'm just, I'm still kind of again, like reflecting, you
• 1:13:02
  know what I mean? Like, I, I, I don't think you
• 1:13:04
  can go to anything like Highland and leave it.
• 1:13:09
  And then that'd be the last thing that you think about that
• 1:13:12
  night. What was what was really
• 1:13:14
  interesting though, is that the rape, the Midri hosted them for
• 1:13:18
  after party. I know, I know.
• 1:13:21
  I heard about that. And I'm like.
• 1:13:24
  And I saw that. I saw that artwork they drew it
• 1:13:26
  is it is phenomenal in person. It's huge.
• 1:13:30
  It's bigger than you think. It looks on on the by the
• 1:13:33
  picture that it was taken and they were and it's like y'all
• 1:13:35
  better do something to make it where y'all this place ever has
• 1:13:39
  to change studios or someone that you tear out that wall.
• 1:13:42
  Yeah, like carve a piece of that drywall out and take it with
• 1:13:44
  you. Don't paint over that, please.
• 1:13:46
  Like, that's that's history, man.
• 1:13:48
  That's Oh yeah, take a piece of that.
• 1:13:50
  But you can always put more drywall back on just or whatever
• 1:13:54
  it was in there. Yeah, that night that.
• 1:13:58
  That Thursday night though, when I went there and talked to Roof
• 1:14:01
  for a while, After talking and stuff, I kind of got myself a
• 1:14:05
  little too tipsy. Well, look, I only had, I only.
• 1:14:09
  Had I only had two 12 I think I only had like two of the bigger
• 1:14:13
  glasses of Mead there. I gotta say you know when I
• 1:14:18
  don't want to go I I didn't plan on going into and I didn't make
• 1:14:22
  any provisions to go into high lung in any sort of like I don't
• 1:14:27
  want. I only been there fucked up like
• 1:14:28
  just to be real. Like I don't want to be in there
• 1:14:30
  like obliterated off of any sort of substance.
• 1:14:32
  If I can take something that's gonna like enhance the
• 1:14:34
  experience whatever, then that's fine.
• 1:14:36
  And I had, but I had I had a reaction to it that prior to the
• 1:14:41
  ritual I was like, I ain't feeling too hot.
• 1:14:43
  Fortunately it was hours before the whole thing started where I
• 1:14:47
  could get myself right, you know cleanse my mouth and all that
• 1:14:51
  sort of stuff and just be in a in a better state physically,
• 1:14:55
  you know. But that in itself too, man,
• 1:14:57
  like sometimes, like when we when we when we I had.
• 1:15:01
  Some I had some to breathe that night, that night of, but it
• 1:15:05
  wasn't as much as I had that Thursday night.
• 1:15:09
  Well, yeah. And and it was after the ritual
• 1:15:11
  at that point, you know. But I know, like.
• 1:15:13
  It was before actually is there the pre party though I I had the
• 1:15:18
  I had like a what they call a flight which is not that much
• 1:15:20
  alcohol in it but the but the other one was a little Tim was a
• 1:15:26
  little bit more than because they're a little bit larger cuts
• 1:15:31
  so I because I had one during my three reading at Thursday night
• 1:15:35
  and then. I came out of it and I ordered
• 1:15:37
  another one. I just sat there talking to Rude
• 1:15:39
  just to catch up and stuff. Yeah, I definitely don't think
• 1:15:44
  you should go into anything like this like totally inebriated or
• 1:15:49
  intoxicated to. The oh, yeah.
• 1:15:51
  I wasn't like I said I stopped as soon as I had that flight of
• 1:15:56
  it because it was just so weak, you know, I just like, I'm not
• 1:15:58
  going to drink as much because I had to.
• 1:16:00
  I had to drive from here to there, you know, and.
• 1:16:05
  I don't want to get too messed up, so yeah.
• 1:16:09
  I leave there, right? It's not about like getting to a
• 1:16:12
  show and like, let's get fucked up to the Max, dude.
• 1:16:15
  Like, this is a different experience, you know?
• 1:16:17
  And if you I didn't. Even go.
• 1:16:18
  I didn't even go to the concession.
• 1:16:21
  Yeah, I didn't either. I mean, I was there for the
• 1:16:23
  experience, not for the, not for the peanut gallery.
• 1:16:28
  You know, and I didn't think about getting them into the
• 1:16:31
  merch lane first thing, you know, I thought.
• 1:16:35
  Which I could have done, you know, I could have taken my time
• 1:16:37
  and gone into the into that, but I went mealing the doors inside
• 1:16:39
  my seats and just stayed there because I didn't get my merch
• 1:16:45
  until after. Some people recommend getting it
• 1:16:48
  early on. That way you don't have to worry
• 1:16:51
  about is my size sold out or is the option limited, right,
• 1:16:56
  Because a lot of people will go there early on, get all their
• 1:16:59
  stuff, and then by the time you get to the end of the show,
• 1:17:01
  everything that you may have wanted is gone.
• 1:17:05
  So I know some people do recommend that if you're going
• 1:17:07
  to get merch, like get there early enough where you can get
• 1:17:10
  your merch early and either put it back in your vehicle or carry
• 1:17:13
  it with you into the ritual or or something that way you.
• 1:17:16
  Know like that, unlike that for the main like a main band or
• 1:17:18
  something like that. But I like to get merch from the
• 1:17:21
  opening acts after I hear the opening acts.
• 1:17:25
  Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, different.
• 1:17:26
  Sort of, yeah. Because it's like.
• 1:17:30
  Because you don't know how they're going to sound.
• 1:17:31
  Because I was like, I was like, I'm not going to listen to the
• 1:17:33
  opening acts till I hear the first hand.
• 1:17:36
  Because that way I can be blown away.
• 1:17:38
  Yeah. And then this was a totally
• 1:17:40
  different thing. I mean, this was just Highland,
• 1:17:42
  so you know that there wasn't like, who do I listen to do it
• 1:17:46
  before or after? Like it was a night of Highland.
• 1:17:50
  Yeah, luckily they they had my sizes T-shirt after the show and
• 1:17:55
  the line wasn't that long because everybody else got their
• 1:17:57
  stuff beforehand, yeah. I wasn't sure.
• 1:18:01
  I think you may have accidentally got into that line.
• 1:18:05
  Well, my wife ended up getting our shirts.
• 1:18:07
  So she got a shirt for me and a shirt for for me.
• 1:18:10
  And I was standing kind of out in that general area and there
• 1:18:13
  were some people that were like, hey, can I get, you know, can we
• 1:18:15
  get a picture and and. And whatnot.
• 1:18:17
  She was over here looking, but I I know she ended up getting up
• 1:18:20
  at one point and going to get our merch, so.
• 1:18:24
  Yeah, well, I didn't realize where y'all you were heading was
• 1:18:27
  towards that merch line. Too, because wherever everybody
• 1:18:31
  else is having, because that's where that big long line was but
• 1:18:34
  you ended up in. I think it was connected to
• 1:18:38
  that, but I don't know remember how y'all got in because because
• 1:18:41
  my portal was like portal two I think right there on that far
• 1:18:48
  and I didn't know if that was the same portal but Y'all had it
• 1:18:50
  in there, I don't know. All I know is we were in a line
• 1:18:53
  and we ended up in the in the the Amphitheatre.
• 1:18:57
  Seated area I got to walk from your to your seat.
• 1:19:02
  From my seat, yeah, yeah. You weren't just a few rows
• 1:19:06
  behind us. Yeah, I even made the reference
• 1:19:08
  seat on a comet referencing spit wads.
• 1:19:12
  Yeah, yeah. It was like the back of your
• 1:19:15
  head. Just you some.
• 1:19:19
  Just to just to just to just to take half the time while we're
• 1:19:22
  waiting. I've been like, what the hell
• 1:19:24
  was that? Oh, it's Blake.
• 1:19:26
  Never mind. Yeah.
• 1:19:27
  It's like I'm going to be a sniper for a while, but yeah
• 1:19:32
  man, it was a great, it was a great experience and thank you
• 1:19:36
  for coming. On here.
• 1:19:37
  Yeah. I can't stop listening to him
• 1:19:38
  now. So, OK, so that was the next
• 1:19:41
  thing I was going to say is like, you weren't that big of a
• 1:19:44
  fan before. Yeah, they didn't, they didn't,
• 1:19:47
  like strike your fancy or whatever before.
• 1:19:49
  But having gone and seen them live, how is it now?
• 1:19:52
  For you it's. I'm always this way.
• 1:19:56
  If I ever see a band live or stuff, I just can't stop
• 1:19:58
  listening to them really for a while.
• 1:20:00
  Yeah, I'll I'll, I'll do it until I just wear them out and
• 1:20:04
  it's time to change. And I haven't worn them out yet
• 1:20:08
  so. But they left the lasting
• 1:20:10
  impression on you and and it because that live experience,
• 1:20:13
  right? So even if you take a.
• 1:20:14
  Break even. It's like, yeah, you know, I
• 1:20:16
  needed something else. Like you've always got that to
• 1:20:18
  rebound and go back to. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:21
  And if they come back around again which they probably will
• 1:20:24
  because the hospitality that they that I forgot who it was
• 1:20:28
  that they left a comment on the beatery page about their the the
• 1:20:36
  after show party. They it was one of the members
• 1:20:38
  that was talking about all the hospitality there.
• 1:20:41
  So that might. Be a a seller to them.
• 1:20:45
  Get some bat. Yeah that's a good sign when one
• 1:20:49
  of the members takes time to to make a a comment on a post and
• 1:20:53
  and and you know speak up the hospitality like that's a good
• 1:20:59
  sign. I mean and that's what I'm so
• 1:21:01
  glad for. You know what I mean is that
• 1:21:03
  people in this section of the country which you know for those
• 1:21:07
  that listen and and and whatever my content you know watch my
• 1:21:10
  content it's like I'm in the I'm in the South right.
• 1:21:13
  Blake, he's in Alabama. We're in the Bible belt the
• 1:21:17
  almost the belt buckle of the Bible belt of the United States.
• 1:21:20
  Right. A lot of churches a lot of
• 1:21:22
  Christian influence right. And look at the vibrant, active,
• 1:21:28
  welcoming, Pagan, non traditional religious
• 1:21:31
  communities that exist here that that it's it's large here it is
• 1:21:37
  large right. Like it's it's one.
• 1:21:39
  Of the largest. From from all the way from
• 1:21:44
  Florence to to Huntsville has the huge probably the largest
• 1:21:48
  taken sector. If I if I if people are anywhere
• 1:21:52
  else now bound, please correct me.
• 1:21:54
  I'll stand corrected. But this is the most I've seen
• 1:21:58
  in our state was in the north, in the north, north of the of
• 1:22:01
  the Tennessee River. I mean you guys would know
• 1:22:06
  better because all I know is what I see here in like the
• 1:22:08
  Middle Tennessee area. But knowing that like Northern
• 1:22:12
  Alabama and and even as far as East Tennessee, West Tennessee,
• 1:22:18
  up to like Kentucky and Indiana and some of those like this
• 1:22:21
  region of the South, as much of the Bible Belt as it is like,
• 1:22:26
  man, we got some pagans out in here, man, we got some we.
• 1:22:29
  Got some We got some people doing some things, you know,
• 1:22:33
  real things. Not just online stuff, not just
• 1:22:36
  Facebook groups, like there's people doing grass roots things
• 1:22:41
  in this area, guys. Yeah, because one thing is you
• 1:22:44
  got so much scenery and stuff. I mean, you got well, the
• 1:22:47
  nature, yeah. Yeah, you got a lot of forests
• 1:22:49
  and mountains and you got lake streams.
• 1:22:52
  Like, I think Alabama's got probably the most lakes and
• 1:22:55
  streams out there next to Louisiana and Florida.
• 1:23:00
  Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that.
• 1:23:02
  And that's where we gravitate towards.
• 1:23:03
  You know, where can we be close to nature?
• 1:23:05
  Where can we feel close to nature, right.
• 1:23:07
  I mentioned before, we, we, my wife and I, we arrive in the
• 1:23:10
  middle, the heart of the city, Huntsville, where we arrive in
• 1:23:14
  the heart of the city and what do we gravitate towards?
• 1:23:16
  We look for the thing that speaks to us closely to the
• 1:23:21
  nature. Spirit, right.
• 1:23:23
  There's water, there's animals of nature, right.
• 1:23:25
  And even though it's like in a in a congested human, highly
• 1:23:29
  human populated area, it's still resonates with us, right?
• 1:23:32
  And so those those. It's also a shadow.
• 1:23:35
  It's also in the shadow of a Mesa, a mountain.
• 1:23:39
  They call it a mountain. They must say a mountain's
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  considered a mountain, but it's a Mesa.
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  If you look at it's flat on top, yeah, yeah.
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  Like, I mean, it's that flat, flat, but has that kind of,
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  like, surface area up top there. But yeah, looks like you froze
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  there for a second. He's all over there.
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  Let's look. Wait.
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  Yeah, like that. Yeah, but Blake's frozen.
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  We're about wrapping this thing up anyway.
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  Here. Soon maybe it'll unfreeze for
• 1:24:17
  him. We'll give it a second.
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  But yeah, the the as you can hear guys and as you can see
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  right from what we're talking about, is a a heavily vibrant
• 1:24:35
  community that came and experienced the Hailong ritual.
• 1:24:42
  Many people having never known one another, Many people having
• 1:24:45
  never seen one another face to face in life before, You know,
• 1:24:53
  let me just move him off here. He can rejoin.
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  But we we're alive. We're doing things, You know,
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  we're we're being things. This isn't just talk.
• 1:25:09
  This isn't just we're not Larping, right?
• 1:25:12
  We don't wear these things. We don't dress a certain way.
• 1:25:15
  We don't put on a certain facade.
• 1:25:17
  We don't look a certain way just for the shits and gigs.
• 1:25:28
  It's life for a lot of us, you know.
• 1:25:31
  And when folks like Hailung come to our country and honor us with
• 1:25:37
  their presence and do things that honor the land in and
• 1:25:42
  around us, you know, a lot of this North American tour has
• 1:25:50
  with Hailong included indigenous Native American dancers and and
• 1:25:57
  and members of of the respective nations, you know, First Nation
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  members of our indigenous North American continent.
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  And and when they come here, Hailong, I mean when they come
• 1:26:13
  here and they and they give homage to the native indigenous
• 1:26:18
  people and invite them to that space that is such a such a
• 1:26:22
  powerful and, you know, such a profound thing.
• 1:26:29
  Hey, what's up, man? Welcome back.
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  Hey, sorry. It's a lost connection or
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  something. That's OK We're going to be
• 1:26:36
  wrapping it up here soon too anyway.
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  But I I was just saying, you know, the fact that Highland
• 1:26:40
  comes to North America. Yeah.
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  And and and blesses the land in their way but also includes the
• 1:26:47
  the native indigenous like First Nation peoples and a lot of
• 1:26:52
  their ceremonies like that is huge.
• 1:26:55
  You know and that's what really makes a howling experience such
• 1:26:59
  a life changing thing to me is that you know you're not just
• 1:27:02
  going to watch a band perform live music and rock out on stage
• 1:27:07
  cool like no man. Like you're you're you're going
• 1:27:11
  and you're experiencing something that that ties back to
• 1:27:14
  historical roots that are so old and that are so established and
• 1:27:20
  that are so genuine. You know that you can't help but
• 1:27:26
  if you come to it, like you mentioned before, you had a, you
• 1:27:28
  had a somebody next to you who was quote UN quote Christian,
• 1:27:31
  you know, out there jumping around, dancing and feeling that
• 1:27:34
  music, that's the that's that's the vibration of those roots
• 1:27:38
  speaking to that person, right. Doesn't matter what your
• 1:27:41
  religious label is. It what matters is that you're
• 1:27:44
  being spoke to from things that are just deeply rooted inside of
• 1:27:50
  all of us. Right, so you can call yourself
• 1:27:52
  what you want. Call yourself.
• 1:27:54
  Yeah, well, he was one of those kind of Christians also that was
• 1:27:57
  accepting of things too. Like.
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  Like he wasn't like like. You know, like he would be
• 1:28:03
  outnumbered for this, You know what I mean?
• 1:28:06
  Like if he just keeps, like, yeah, I told him, I told him.
• 1:28:09
  Yeah, he was shocked. I told him about a good majority
• 1:28:12
  of the people here are probably Pagan.
• 1:28:15
  He's like, oh, really? It's like, yeah, like Alabama
• 1:28:18
  has a huge Pagan population. Instead of this Middle Tennessee
• 1:28:23
  and everywhere around around here, it's we're scattered.
• 1:28:27
  I mean, we're doing promise. People are doing things.
• 1:28:30
  And that's the thing about it is we're not just out here dressing
• 1:28:33
  up like I just you weren't on here a minute ago when I said,
• 1:28:35
  but we're not just out here dressing up.
• 1:28:37
  We're not just out here, you know, trying to look a certain
• 1:28:39
  way, trying to capture a certain aesthetic.
• 1:28:44
  This is life for the majority of people.
• 1:28:47
  This is our life. This is what we do when you
• 1:28:49
  spend. I dress up and connect, yeah,
• 1:28:53
  because I dress up and garb just to connect, fulfill the know how
• 1:28:57
  my ancestry smell. Wearing all that, all that that
• 1:29:02
  that that's a way of doing it right.
• 1:29:04
  It's, it's it is if we if we dress in period clothing, if we
• 1:29:07
  put on a garb, if we wear certain things that are period
• 1:29:11
  accurate, you know, we can enter into that sort of mindset of how
• 1:29:16
  life was back then and it connects to those ancestors,
• 1:29:21
  right. We're not, we're not recessing
• 1:29:22
  to the point of, you know, abandoning all modern
• 1:29:27
  advancements and and ways to further our, you know, people in
• 1:29:31
  general, right. We're not trying to be like
• 1:29:33
  well, let's just go back to the swords and Spears and and draw
• 1:29:35
  horse drawn carriages days. But we're we're encapsulating an
• 1:29:41
  essence of the past that feeds those roots, that gives us that
• 1:29:45
  energy, that gives us that power to nurture the present and then
• 1:29:50
  feed the future. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:53
  It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's kind of part of it, all
• 1:29:55
  right. Not that you have to be this
• 1:29:57
  way. Not you have to dress in a
• 1:29:58
  certain way to to feel it. But for a lot of us, this is
• 1:30:03
  what it's about. This is why we do what we do.
• 1:30:05
  This isn't just to be. This isn't just to gain likes or
• 1:30:09
  followers or whatever on social media.
• 1:30:12
  Not we're not these, you know, Peyton Parish types.
• 1:30:14
  We're not these, you know, just panderers of of culture.
• 1:30:18
  Try to. I hate the guy, you know.
• 1:30:22
  We're not. We're not that.
• 1:30:23
  It's like a goofball, yeah. Is that the wacky, WAVY,
• 1:30:27
  inflatable arm flailing tube? Man of the of the.
• 1:30:32
  Yeah, it's it's it's like I don't want to bash people on
• 1:30:38
  this. You know what?
• 1:30:39
  I. Mean.
• 1:30:39
  Oh yeah. Anytime.
• 1:30:40
  It's like you see that when people see that type of thing
• 1:30:44
  and then they see others that are dressing up, they kind of
• 1:30:50
  put the two and two together and be like, well, this is the same
• 1:30:52
  as that. No, no, no, no, not necessarily.
• 1:30:55
  Right. Yeah, there are people down
• 1:30:57
  here. There are people out here.
• 1:30:59
  And I don't, and I don't mean just in the southern United
• 1:31:01
  States. I mean wherever you're listening
• 1:31:02
  from there have got there. There are people that are
• 1:31:05
  genuine. Their pursuit to revitalize and
• 1:31:12
  breathe new life into these old ways.
• 1:31:15
  It's it's not a game. We're not out here cosplaying.
• 1:31:19
  We're not Larping, OK? We believe in some of these
• 1:31:24
  things, some more than others, and and and how we portray
• 1:31:29
  ourselves to the public is an important thing.
• 1:31:32
  You know what I mean? Like if if we're out here just,
• 1:31:36
  you know, being some, you know, God of War cosplay, Viking, you
• 1:31:42
  know, Assassin's Creed, Valhalla, you know, look all in
• 1:31:45
  me, like if that's all we're doing, then we're not.
• 1:31:48
  We're not. We're not doing any justice to
• 1:31:51
  the actual thing. Yeah, but you wouldn't be
• 1:31:54
  surprised though that how many people like when I was like to
• 1:31:58
  the concert Friday night, dress in my garb and stuff.
• 1:32:03
  People were asked me, like I said, they said that that was
• 1:32:06
  Jesus. But the other thing is the other
• 1:32:08
  people were wondering what the hell I was.
• 1:32:11
  Because I don't have chainmail on.
• 1:32:14
  I didn't have my axe on me, you know, I just have my belt, my
• 1:32:18
  bag and my horn, you know, all. And I wrapped around my tear at
• 1:32:23
  that point, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:32:27
  But I don't. I don't like the average typical
• 1:32:30
  Viking walking around either. But I didn't have the helmet on.
• 1:32:32
  I didn't have a sword. I didn't have a shield or a
• 1:32:34
  spear, yeah. No, I I mean, I've done, I've
• 1:32:38
  done some some local community work where I've dressed in my
• 1:32:42
  tunics and I. Have my boots, you know, a
• 1:32:45
  tunic, a belt, pants and boots, right.
• 1:32:48
  And people are like, yeah, I like your.
• 1:32:50
  I like your cut, man. I like your drip.
• 1:32:51
  They call it nowadays. They they have these terms and
• 1:32:54
  stuff. I like it And I'm like, thank
• 1:32:56
  you, right. Yeah.
• 1:32:58
  But I'm not you know, I'm, I'm going to do a thing, right.
• 1:33:00
  I'm I'm going to be and represent a subset of our
• 1:33:04
  community. That is like, I'm not saying you
• 1:33:09
  have to do this to to achieve what I'm achieving, but this is
• 1:33:14
  you know, you know it's. It's, well, the only time, the
• 1:33:17
  only time I ever you live it. The only time I ever add a
• 1:33:20
  Latin. Yeah, the only time I ever add
• 1:33:23
  my axe to my my kit when I'm when I'm wearing it.
• 1:33:27
  Is if I go into like a rim fair or something like that because I
• 1:33:30
  don't bring weapons into ritual spaces?
• 1:33:34
  Well, you can't. You can't.
• 1:33:37
  You also can't go to Walmart or or wherever and just like carry
• 1:33:40
  an axe around these. Days.
• 1:33:41
  I mean maybe Walmart, maybe Walmart cause I've seen some
• 1:33:45
  crazy things at Walmart, but. You can carry a camp at.
• 1:33:49
  I see people carry camp ATS in in all.
• 1:33:52
  Fairness, right? You can't walk around with a
• 1:33:54
  spear and a shield and and not not be looked at like what the
• 1:33:59
  hell, you know what I mean? Now it's different if you're
• 1:34:02
  walking around in a in a linen tunic with britches and boots,
• 1:34:06
  belt or and you know, whatever and that's, that's your that's
• 1:34:09
  your attire. Sure you you look, you look at a
• 1:34:11
  place, but you look. Yeah, less posing and and, you
• 1:34:15
  know, just less weird. Yeah, like like Friday I went in
• 1:34:20
  my ritual garb because I well, it got bumped up.
• 1:34:24
  I had a nail appointment, supposed to be at 3:00, but they
• 1:34:28
  moved after the two and I've been there in full in my full
• 1:34:33
  garb, you know, and that's OK. We lose each other again no, I
• 1:34:45
  think well you're you're you're a little bit glitchy but we're
• 1:34:48
  we're we're going to wrap it up for the, for the, for the
• 1:34:50
  listeners and for the I think we got, I think we got a lot of
• 1:34:55
  good content for for everybody about what both Blake and myself
• 1:34:59
  experienced for Hilung, right amplified.
• 1:35:03
  History. That's kind of their thing,
• 1:35:04
  right? When when they talk about when
• 1:35:06
  when you go on their socials and when you when you go to their
• 1:35:09
  websites, right? It's amplified history.
• 1:35:12
  These are, these are things that are are are touching back into
• 1:35:16
  ancient roots that we all generate from that we've all
• 1:35:19
  come from to some degree. Now, how do you feed those
• 1:35:24
  roots? Right.
• 1:35:26
  What do you do to feed those roots?
• 1:35:29
  We don't come from the same, well, let me back up.
• 1:35:33
  We kind of come from the same root system, but the various
• 1:35:36
  fringes and branches and things that come out from that root
• 1:35:38
  system are unique and different. So where do you find yourself on
• 1:35:45
  that system and how do you feed and what do you do to feed that
• 1:35:53
  taproot, you know what I mean? And I think that what what what
• 1:35:58
  what, you know, Blake and I talked about today on this
• 1:36:02
  podcast shares a bit with you all this audience about the
• 1:36:07
  things that we've experienced you know his pre ritual
• 1:36:11
  experience prior to the the Heilung ritual, you know, the
• 1:36:14
  travel, the headache the the, you know the meadery to just
• 1:36:19
  everything And then me with you know traveling to walking around
• 1:36:22
  picking up duck feathers with my wife and all that.
• 1:36:26
  Right. Like there's there's, there's
• 1:36:27
  various, there's there's nuance to it, but there's differences
• 1:36:31
  to it as well. And they were our own separate
• 1:36:33
  experiences. And if you are listening and
• 1:36:36
  watching to this now and you were at the Huntsville, AL
• 1:36:39
  Ritual or any of the US rituals, we'd be really keen on knowing
• 1:36:45
  what your experience was like, you know.
• 1:36:49
  So if you're watching this on Patreon, you can comment down
• 1:36:51
  below in the comments. If you're listening to this on
• 1:36:54
  the audio platforms, you can write into the podcast.
• 1:36:58
  It's going to be Midgard Musings tn@gmail.com.
• 1:37:02
  You can call into the podcast. It's 615-671-9832.
• 1:37:08
  You can share your experiences. You know, to to whatever degree
• 1:37:13
  that you want. You can comment on any of my
• 1:37:14
  socials. If you happen to capture this
• 1:37:17
  anywhere else and you want to just comment or DM me, I'll
• 1:37:22
  answer messages on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.
• 1:37:27
  So you've got all those things that are going for you if you
• 1:37:29
  want to share your experiences. But this was our experience.
• 1:37:34
  We we we've talked now for a good bit.
• 1:37:36
  Blake and I can share with you about it, and we'd love to hear
• 1:37:40
  what your experience is as well. There's so much more to tell,
• 1:37:45
  but it's just hard to get in one video.
• 1:37:48
  It's dude. We could go on for literally
• 1:37:50
  hours on like a live stream or something about.
• 1:37:53
  Oh yeah, it's like you can, you can just.
• 1:37:55
  It's like so much about it, Yeah.
• 1:37:59
  Yeah. And for the sake of just people
• 1:38:01
  listening, you know, like, I mean like an hour podcast is is
• 1:38:04
  enough and we're going on an hour and 30 or more.
• 1:38:06
  So maybe we'll we'll we'll retouch on some things maybe
• 1:38:10
  over time, 'cause I know, you know, you and I, you know, we we
• 1:38:13
  have a connection over social media.
• 1:38:16
  So. So we can definitely, you know
• 1:38:18
  reconnect and and and do some more.
• 1:38:20
  But yeah, right now, man. Anything else you want to say to
• 1:38:25
  my audience before we and the recording here before we did
• 1:38:29
  everybody well? Yeah, just be sure.
• 1:38:33
  Again, be sure to check my links as well.
• 1:38:36
  Give me some get some pork. I am trying to weed out the
• 1:38:41
  merchandise for this channel or for for my own for my YouTube
• 1:38:46
  channel by this name and moving it over to the Music Project
• 1:38:52
  itself as its focus point. But.
• 1:38:57
  The scholars works. It's just it's me.
• 1:38:59
  It's not just a like a band for me it's more like a or music
• 1:39:04
  project. It's it's like a place where I
• 1:39:05
  could just share my ideas and teach people how to a little
• 1:39:11
  bit. I give some people insight on
• 1:39:13
  how to play the instrument that I play and share the with
• 1:39:16
  people. That's the reason why I wanted
• 1:39:19
  to, that's why I wanted to separate those two because.
• 1:39:25
  I don't want people to say oh this is the skull that works is
• 1:39:27
  also a a band or a music project.
• 1:39:30
  I want them to say that oh this is this is one thing, this is
• 1:39:36
  the music project is a whole different animal and so just
• 1:39:42
  check the links out. I'm going to try to see about
• 1:39:45
  probably maybe doing some online workshops and stuff or first one
• 1:39:50
  on ones eventually for anybody that wants to.
• 1:39:54
  Hit me up for that, I'll see what I can do because that way
• 1:39:58
  it's not going to be like full on lessons because I don't see
• 1:40:01
  myself qualified to teach. But I can help people correct
• 1:40:06
  some mistakes or see what their mistakes are and try to help
• 1:40:10
  with that. But to just check my just to
• 1:40:15
  check the links out, check the music out and bro some support
• 1:40:22
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  His link Tree link will be LinkedIn the description and
• 1:40:28
  show notes of this podcast. So definitely do everything that
• 1:40:31
  he already just said. But for everybody else out here
• 1:40:36
  listening and watching, thank you all so much for your
• 1:40:38
  support. Another very special thanks to
• 1:40:41
  my Patreon. Patreons, which Blake here
• 1:40:43
  himself is. Hey Patreon on Patreon.
• 1:40:47
  So he'll be watching this himself.
• 1:40:49
  He'll get to see all of the nitty gritty goody Ness, you
• 1:40:53
  know what I mean? He is on that work.
• 1:40:55
  When on that work I sometimes listen.
• 1:40:58
  I sometimes listen to like Spotify when I'm at work, but,
• 1:41:01
  which is great. But you also support what I do,
• 1:41:05
  I think. Yeah.
• 1:41:06
  Yeah. So you got a room rating coming
• 1:41:08
  up here soon. You know, all that good stuff.
• 1:41:11
  So. So you know, Blake here is is is
• 1:41:14
  playing, playing ball with all of us, you know what I mean?
• 1:41:17
  So thank you especially for Blake for being a patron at at
• 1:41:21
  the Chiefs interior. So please guys, check his stuff
• 1:41:25
  out, support him in any way that you can, follow along with his
• 1:41:28
  journey on on his musical path and give him all the love and
• 1:41:31
  support that he deserves. And I want to say thank you
• 1:41:34
  Blake, for taking time out of your evening to come out here
• 1:41:37
  and and talk to me about filing experience.
• 1:41:40
  It's been great. I appreciate that.
• 1:41:43
  Stick around for just a second before I end this whole thing.
• 1:41:46
  Everybody else that's listening and watching do all the things
• 1:41:49
  that we just talked about. Thank you all so much for your
• 1:41:53
  ongoing and constant support. And until we talk to each other
• 1:41:55
  again, may the gods continue to notice you and may your
• 1:42:00
  ancestors smile upon you. We'll see you in the next one.