Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / Huddle Up | Bucky Brooks on Jaguars vs. Broncos

Transcript

Huddle Up | Bucky Brooks on Jaguars vs. Broncos · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up. Jaguars senior writer John Osher and
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: NFL network analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. Huddle Up starts right now.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: All right, welcome into Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Today
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: we're going to take a final look at Browns Jaguars.
• 0:25
  Speaker 2: A first look at Jaguars Broncos at Mile High on Sunday.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, an ascending Trevor Lawrence versus the Broncos defense.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: Jaguars defense versus Broncos quarterback Bo Nix, who had his
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: issues on Monday. And the Jaguars are in first place
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: in the AFC South. I am John Ogier from the
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: Hyundai Studios. Bucky Brooks is in L.A., as always. Huddle
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: Up with Bucky Brooks is brought to you by Fields
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: Auto Group Jacksonville. See Fields first, Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group.
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: Go to fieldsauto.com. And, Bucky, now that we are through
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: with that long intro, Jaguars 34, Browns 10, buddy.
• 1:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a great win.
• 1:12
  Speaker 4: One of the best performances that we've seen in terms
• 1:17
  Speaker 4: of Jaguars played from start to finish. I love the energy.
• 1:21
  Speaker 4: I love the competitiveness. I love the edge. But more importantly,
• 1:25
  Speaker 4: I love how we just took care of business. John,
• 1:28
  Speaker 4: you and I have both been around really good teams,
• 1:30
  Speaker 4: various spots, and there's just a professionalism that they exhibit
• 1:36
  Speaker 4: when it's time to beat teams that they're supposed to beat.
• 1:39
  Speaker 4: For the first time in a long time in Jacksonville,
• 1:41
  Speaker 4: I felt that with the Cleveland Browns coming in. I
• 1:44
  Speaker 4: felt from the beginning of the game to the end
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: of the game, there was never any doubt that Jacksonville
• 1:48
  Speaker 4: was going to win, and a lot of that was
• 1:50
  Speaker 4: in their preparation and their focus, the way they jumped
• 1:53
  Speaker 4: on them from the start and never really let up
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: until the end.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into a lot of the meat and
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: potatoes of that game here in a second. But I
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: thought it was a good reminder, Bucky, and maybe affirming.
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: I think people in the offseason remembered the Bills game,
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: and they maybe remembered the Broncos game. I think maybe
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: they forgot that in the second half of the season,
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: once they got through Arizona and the Raiders, they were...
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: this team, meaning they handled teams they were supposed to
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: beat late last year. And the Titans, the Jets, they
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: became a team that did this, which to me is
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: obviously the mark of a good team because no matter
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: how good you are, it's hard to double-digit teams in
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: this league. The fact that they are that, they take
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: care of business. Trevor's been out of the game, I think,
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: I think the stat is six times since... the Raiders
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: game last year, the Cardinals, whichever one was second. Bucky,
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: these guys are good.
• 3:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 3:06
  Speaker 4: Really good teams take care of business. They show you
• 3:08
  Speaker 4: from the jump how they get down. Very talented team.
• 3:12
  Speaker 4: But I would say the best part of the team
• 3:16
  Speaker 4: in talking to the players is their understanding of who
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: they are and how they have to play to win.
• 3:20
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen talked about this team being a gritty team,
• 3:23
  Speaker 4: a physical team, not a team that can deal with.
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: The flash and the pizzazz, but more a blue collar team.
• 3:29
  Speaker 4: When you talk to Trayvon Walker and those guys, they
• 3:31
  Speaker 4: talk about, hey, I got to make sure that I'm
• 3:33
  Speaker 4: just feeling my one 11th, that I'm one part of
• 3:37
  Speaker 4: the puzzle. I don't try and do more than my part.
• 3:39
  Speaker 4: I just need to be a part of the team,
• 3:41
  Speaker 4: do my job just like everybody else.
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: And this team works together.
• 3:45
  Speaker 4: They also talk about things like, hey, it's not really
• 3:48
  Speaker 4: about the other team. Yes, we have to prepare for them,
• 3:51
  Speaker 4: but it's about us and what we do to get
• 3:53
  Speaker 4: ready and making sure we play up to the standards
• 3:56
  Speaker 4: that we've All of those things are like the mature
• 4:01
  Speaker 4: responses that you hear from championship teams, teams that are
• 4:04
  Speaker 4: always in the conversation of being not only in the playoffs,
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: but eventually being the last team in the tournament. And
• 4:12
  Speaker 4: I just believe that there's a maturity about this team
• 4:16
  Speaker 4: that matches what championship teams have to have and what
• 4:20
  Speaker 4: championship teams exhibit.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you got into it a little bit.
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: it's hard to define what you're talking about because it
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: can manifest itself in many ways. So it's hard to
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: put a bullet point in a graphic on what you're
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: talking about. But I thought Liam, a couple of things
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: in his post-game presser, and again, I always encourage people
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: to listen to Liam because he lets you in more
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: than most coaches into what's really going on. I thought
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: when he talked about grimy, gutty, it's the thing that,
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: every time you talk to people who really know what's
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: going on with this team, they talk about forget everything else.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: And it's a team that wants to run, stop the run.
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: It's going to hit you when they are more physical.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: They feel like they're the better team. I think most
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: teams say that, but this one really embraces it in their,
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: in their core.
• 5:15
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: I also thought Bucky, when he said after that game,
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much you listened to Liam. Cause
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: I know you talked to him. Uh, He had a
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: quote to the media where he said, look, I tell
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: these guys last night, I don't worry about this team
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: when I put my head on the pillow on Saturday night.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: I know they're going to show up. I've been around
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: coaches who don't feel that way, Bucky. They don't know
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: if they're reaching the team. To me, those two quotes
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: after that presser when he was sort of fresh and
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: emotional and still sort of talking from the gut, the
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: fact that he trusts this team He knows that they're
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: hearing him and responding to him. I think that's a
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: big deal, Bucky. I think that was a really big deal.
• 6:03
  Speaker 4: It's a huge deal, and it's a huge deal because
• 6:06
  Speaker 4: trust is everything in our game. The trust between coaches,
• 6:10
  Speaker 4: the trust between coaches and players, and the trust that's
• 6:13
  Speaker 4: really important, player to player. This team trusts one another
• 6:17
  Speaker 4: because everyone can look to the right and left and
• 6:18
  Speaker 4: know that everybody beside them has done the work. that
• 6:22
  Speaker 4: everyone has pitched in and done all the things that
• 6:25
  Speaker 4: you're supposed to do from a preparation standpoint to earn
• 6:28
  Speaker 4: the right to play really well. And people gave James
• 6:33
  Speaker 4: Gladstone a hard time when he said this about, it's
• 6:36
  Speaker 4: not about changing the culture. If you bring in the
• 6:38
  Speaker 4: right guys, the culture organically changes. That's what has happened
• 6:42
  Speaker 4: right in front.
• 6:42
  Speaker 5: Of our eyes.
• 6:43
  Speaker 4: When you get a bunch of good guys who love
• 6:45
  Speaker 4: the work, who you don't have to browbeat to get
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: to do the work, but they just do it because
• 6:50
  Speaker 4: that's what they're about. Parker Washington showing up early, Travis
• 6:53
  Speaker 4: Hunter bringing enthusiasm, Trayvon Walker being proudful regardless of the
• 6:57
  Speaker 4: money that he's paid, but still wanting to have individual
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: and personal goals that he wants to achieve. To me,
• 7:03
  Speaker 4: that's what it's about. It's about those guys who are self-motivated,
• 7:07
  Speaker 4: who want to do it, who play for others. That
• 7:10
  Speaker 4: is what this team has. And You can just feel
• 7:13
  Speaker 4: it when you're on the sideline.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: You can see it. You can see how people are
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: happy for one another.
• 7:17
  Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons why this offense can exist
• 7:19
  Speaker 4: without a number one. Hey, man, the ball's going to
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: find me. I just keep running my route. The ball
• 7:24
  Speaker 4: has come my way. I'll have my moment. Parker has
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: a moment early. Brian Thomas Jr. has one late.
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers.
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: It just is this feel that, hey, man, we're a team.
• 7:33
  Speaker 4: Don't worry about who gets the credit. Got to love
• 7:36
  Speaker 4: who they are and what they are about right now.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, Bucky, if you haven't seen it, the
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence mic'd up– Obviously, it was terrific for Jaguars
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: fans because you saw all the touchdowns, which were terrific.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: But it also, to me, gave you a real feel
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: for how teammates feel about this guy. I'm writing about
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: it for Jaguars.com a little later. Quarterbacks can lead in
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: different ways. We're getting into Trevor's game right now. Quarterbacks
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: can lead in a lot of ways, but I was
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: around Peyton who, you know, not every player loved Peyton.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: He wasn't always that embraceable, but he led, you know,
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: because he was the alpha dog, right? Trevor's the alpha dog,
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: but players like, they want him to succeed. And I
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: think you saw that camaraderie element. Everybody's a little different.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying one's better or for worse,
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: but players really embrace Trevor. They want him to succeed.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: They want to play for him. And I think that
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: dynamics all around the locker room. Bucky, how good was
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: he on Sunday? Because four touchdowns, no interceptions, throwing darts.
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: I can say it's the best I've ever seen him
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: play because he played this way last year. But good
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: for him to start that way.
• 8:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely good for him to start.
• 8:58
  Speaker 4: I think the performance can be summed up in the
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: touchdown pass that he threw to Josh Cameron.
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: That was just an absolute dart.
• 9:07
  Speaker 4: And I'm still right now, John, when I look back
• 9:09
  Speaker 4: at the replay over and over and over again, one,
• 9:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know what led him.
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: To throw it.
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: And two, I have no idea how Cameron caught this pass.
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: I do not know how he caught this pass. Through
• 9:21
  Speaker 4: a thicket of arms and bodies, he catches it with
• 9:26
  Speaker 4: his hands there. And it's an absolute dart.
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Trevor actually said that he caught the back of
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: the ball, which is doubly amazing. I'm not sure he
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: really did. Like watching that replay, he just kind of
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: corralled it in. But Bucky supposedly, and again, he's a rookie,
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: so I don't know Josh Cameron's play the way I
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: do a lot of players. But his hands are phenomenal.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, this kid, from talking to people in the building, Bucky,
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: this is not the last play you're going to see
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: from this kid. He's going to matter in this offense.
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: So I'm bringing up a name that you all know,
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: Whitey Jordan, longtime coach.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: He's my college coach.
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: And he would talk about when he was in college,
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: he's a renowned college football player.
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: And he said, I can catch a BB in the dark.
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: And what that was, was catching a BB in the dark.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: I just don't understand how how he got it through.
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: But what it does is, remember we talked about last year,
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: Liam Cohen telling Trevor, man, let it rip. That is
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: a rip it throw. I mean, that is a, I'm
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: going to turn my back to the defense. I'm a
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: wheel around and I'm firing a fastball. He threw a
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: dart and.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: I loved it.
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: And then it's the rest of the part that he
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: put together, like, and just in terms of like taking
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: the layups, doing those things, he only had one play
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: that I would say it was a bit of a,
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: egregious error when he passed the line of scrimmage and
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: then flicked it out of bounds.
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: But outside of that.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: At least he threw it out of bounds. He didn't
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: risk the pick.
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: He did, but it was one of those moments like
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: Trevor just scored and ran out of bounds.
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: We don't have to, because it costs us yards.
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: But outside of that, he was on it. And the
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: funny thing about it, it wasn't a 300-yard game. It
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: was an efficient performance where nine different receivers touched the ball,
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: four different guys caught touchdown passes. I mean, he just
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: really worked the progression and of the concepts and the
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: ball literally found the open man. And in talking to Liam,
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: this was really interesting. He was like, we are not
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: an offense where we need to force feed the ball
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: to a player. That's not how we built. And he said,
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: in a way, that's not necessarily how the quarterback is built.
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: Read the play, read the progression, wherever it's supposed to go,
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: let it go. And because of that, you can now
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: see how we talk about having those interchangeable parts in
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: the passing game and how eating weak one guy can
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: step up and be the number one. I truly believe
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: that's not only the mindset of the coach and the
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: quarterback and of the players, that's just kind of the
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: way the system has been created to allow this team
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: to be very, very efficient in the passing game.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I thought, you know, I think most fans who
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: think back, they've watched Trevor, most people watching this show
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: have watched Trevor since the beginning here. He was at
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: his best in 22.
• 12:06
  Speaker 3: Same thing.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: It was organic. Like we talked about in this show,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: the organic part of the offense is, early 23 when
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: Ridley came in, it felt like he wanted to get
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: him the ball. Wasn't quite as organic. So, uh, yeah, it,
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: it's his, um, it's how all offenses really ought to be,
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: but it's hard in this league with wide receiver diva era. Uh,
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: but this is not that sort of receiver group. Even
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: Parker Washington, who's turning into the guy, I think isn't
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: that guy. He's okay with like, when he gets his opportunities, he,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: he's going to excel. So, but, uh, Let's get into
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Parker and the wide receivers. I guess not a whole
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: lot to say. I mean, this was a game that
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: you already just said showed what they are. This is
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: a good wide receiver group that complements each other well.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: I guess I won't even ask that because I think
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: that's the story of that. I do want to ask
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: you about the tight ends. How did you think the
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: tight ends looked in this 12-13 personnel storyline that We'll
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: dig deep with the X's and O's guy. How did
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: that feel to you?
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: Overall, I'm going to say the entire thing. First, you
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: talked about the wide receivers. I will say this about Parker.
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: He is the real deal. And I firmly believe it.
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: They won't make an announcement that he's the number one receiver.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: But to me, it was very obvious. First drive where
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: the ball went to, that's who the number one receiver is.
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: Two big catches, 41 yards, a touchdown. It was everything
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: that you look for from your primary playmaker. That catch
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: is underrated. People didn't even bat an eye. And Parker
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: Washington making that catch because we've seen him do it
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: so often in practice. That is not an easy catch,
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: but he's just like, oh, ho-hum, touchdown for the good guys.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Bucky, did you ever, growing up, we grew up in
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: the same era. Do you remember Super Bowls?
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: That you could hit on the concrete and they'd bounce
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: all over the place?
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: He's a human version of that. He hits the ground
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: and he bounces higher than he jumped.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, just... He just has it, man. He has
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: it going. And it's one thing to be on a heater, right,
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: where he's hot.
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: He's done this so much over the last part of
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: last year, throughout the offseason, into the games.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: You expect it to be that. To me, he's good.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: But then how about this? Brian Thomas Jr., the next drive.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: He has his moment.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: Catches an out-breaking route, catches a curl, then catches something
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: later coming over the middle of the field, doing things.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: We talked about him.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: They found that he was best in his role when
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: he caught out-breaking routes outside the numbers and things down
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: the field. But going over the middle, being able to
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: catch the ball, being able to do a few different things,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: just being able to diversify the passing game a little bit,
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: it is going to make it a more difficult offense
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: to defend because literally you do not know who the
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: number one receiver is. And if you double one or
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: you change the way that you load the zone, somebody
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: else is capable of beating you.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: And that includes the tight ends who you talked about.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: I'll say this about the tight ends.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: All those consensus boards should be really, really quiet right
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: now because Nate Berkutcher dominated on the edges as a blocker.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: And it's one of the reasons why.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Which is what they want. That's what they value.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: That was the point the entire time. People were not
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: privy to the conversations inside. They wanted someone that could
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: be the true wide-tied end, the old-school blocker that could
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: knock and control the line of scrimmage and seal. And
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: we saw Berkutcher do that while also getting an opportunity
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: to touch the rock.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: We're going to get into Trayvon and Josh in a
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: later segment. So in talking about the Jaguars' defense generally
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: against Cleveland, let's focus on Ventrell, how well he played.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: It seemed like a day where the stats matched the performance.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they absolutely matched the performance. And the thing about
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Ventrell and what's impressive about him is, like, his bark
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: is just as effective as his bite.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, he is– He's going to bark all the time,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: and his bite is there. He is loud. He is
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: going to communicate. He overcommunicates.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: You can hear him from the sideline on the field
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: just talking, but he gets after it. And I knew
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: that we were talking about like a part-time role where
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: he and Branson Coons would kind of figure out how
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: to kind of.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Make up for what Devin Lloyd provided.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: But, man, the one thing that you have to have
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: on every defense, there has to be someone that kind
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: of gets the party started when it comes to a
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: big hit. And to me, he is looking to be
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: the guy that ignites it. He doesn't mind contact. He
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: enjoys it. He wrestles it. And unlike some of the
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: other guys who are a little quiet when they engage, nah,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: he doesn't mind talking a little bit.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: And they feed off of that energy.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a guy, you know, Brent Reber is producing
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: this and speak to it because we've had him on
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: the Ozone podcast a couple of times. He only played
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: football growing up. Like, he has been a football guy
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: since day one and is just a guy who loves it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: lives for it. He's one of those guys. You're like, boy,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I worry about him after he retires. Cause he lives
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: for this. And, uh, which I'm not, you know, he'll,
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: he'll be fine, but he is one of those guys, Bucky,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: that was born to come into a locker room every day,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: be around it, love it. And, uh, it's, uh, showing
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: up on the field. Uh, this week's game, Bucky is
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: sponsored by Paramount plus see you Sunday on Paramount plus
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: for your live local NFL and CBS games every week.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: When we return, uh, We're going to look at the
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Denver Broncos on Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: We know how they're going to respond. I mean, there's
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: no question that they're a well-coached, talented team that we
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: have obviously a lot of film on from last year.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: And then obviously playing them later on helps with some
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: of that. You know, definitely different ways of how they
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: used Waddle throughout the game and know they'll want to
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: continue to get him involved early on. And it's really...
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: So much of this week is truly about us.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. I'm John Ogier,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: and as always, I encourage people to watch Liam's Pressers.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: It's available on Jaguars.com or the Jaguars YouTube channel. He's
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: so insightful. Helps you understand the game. Fantastic in that form. Bucky,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it was a little tough trying to find good sound
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: from Liam on the Broncos because it really is about
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: you know, the Jaguars this week. But we'll talk about
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the Broncos. I'm sure you watched it Monday. Not their
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: best effort, but I thought what Liam said there was
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: very pertinent. A, they're going to respond. They're a good team. B,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to me, Bucky, I didn't really care what they did
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: on Monday, the Broncos, because if there's anybody in the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: league who doesn't is not going to overlook a surging
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Jaguars team right now. It's going to be the Broncos
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: after what happened in December, because not only did the
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Jaguars win that game, they handled the Broncos to a
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: degree where good teams like the Broncos aren't used to that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: It's going to get their attention. I don't know Sean Payton.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be talking to him if I did, but I'm
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: guessing there was some off season planning and watching that
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: game maybe more so than a usual Week 2 non-division opponent.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. And I would say this. There's a lot
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: of conversation after the game.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: After Jacksonville won, there was the, I would say, failed
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: acknowledgement by the Denver Broncos about the loss and how
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars outplayed them and those things.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: It was kind of painted like a bit of a fluke,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: like it wasn't for real.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I think they did that publicly, but I doubt... they
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: did it. I think Sean saw that and went, whoa,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: we got.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's out there for public consumption.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: And so if you're willing to say it in front
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: of the mic, there's a part of you that really
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: feels like that. Now, what we do know is the
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Broncos are going to respond because they were embarrassed on
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Monday Night Football.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Everyone in the football world saw how they performed.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: And so you can expect a much better team, a
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: feistier team, a team that has probably been chewed on
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: a lot throughout the course of the week to show
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: up on Sunday. That said, some of the things that
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: they put on tape are causes of concern.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: You give up over 200 rushing yards. That's a big issue.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Don't know if you can fix the running game in
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: a week in terms of being able to shore it
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: up and stop that. We saw Pat Mahomes have his
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: way when he was healthy and do those things. This
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: is a team that had 68 sacks a year ago.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: That's an issue. Offensively, man, they were stuck in the mud.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: They had that one drive, the second drive of the year,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: they scored a touchdown, and then they sputtered the rest.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Of the game.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: So they have a lot of work to do on
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: their own before they can kind of turn their eyes
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: towards who we are and what we do. But, yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I think this is going to be a playoff-like atmosphere
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: because I get the sense that these two teams don't
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: really like each other.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm okay with that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: And I think that game last year was very much
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: a sort of that kind of a game. The intensity
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: was unusual for that time of year. Not unusual, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: because it would have been expected given the circumstances. But
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: you were there, Bucky. That was a high level. And, again,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars got up in that game and really didn't
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: let them back in.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe they did think it was a fluke, but
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: it didn't look like it to me.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: It didn't look like it, but it felt like the
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Broncos approached it like that. I think Alex Singleton had
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: some words after the game about that. And just the
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: overall gist of it, because remember, the Broncos were riding
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: high coming into that. And when the Jaguars knocked them
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: off that, man, they gave the Jags a ton of
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: confidence because it showed they could run with the heavyweights
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: in the league. Now, this time, it's a little different.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: you just talk about coming off a loss, Jacksonville coming
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: off a team, a win where they're supposed to win.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: There's one that if you're the Broncos, you're like, hey,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: we can right the ship right now, week two.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Just take care of them. It changes how people view us.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Specifically to the Broncos' defense, we'll get into the Broncos'
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: offense quickly next. Look, it sort of goes without saying, right?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: 220 rushing yards allowed on Monday. Any team in the
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: league fits this description. If you give up 220, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: don't care if you're the 85 Bears pass rush, you're
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: not going to be able to get to the passer
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: because you're never in bad situations to throw. So I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: guess that's the key this week, right? Jaguars need to run.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: They need to run when they want to run. They
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: need to figure out how they're going to handle the
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: coverage that they put on. First thing I'm looking for
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: is how is Pat Sertan playing Meaning, is he matched
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: up on a receiver, or is he playing right and left?
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Given what he does, but the response is, you kind
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: of understand how the Jaguars need to play. The other part,
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: when we talk about that pass rushing going like crazy,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: just how do you get them off the spot? How
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: do you get them out of sync? Can you get
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: them in second and mixed down calls, second five to seven,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: because now they can't pin their ears back and just
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: go through it. Defensively, can you just understand what It
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: is going on in terms of just making sure that
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: for us, we take care of our business.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: We don't give them anything cheap. We don't pre-snap penalties
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: and all those things.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: And let's see how they respond because the pressure is
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: not only a bow next.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: It's so much pressure on the offensive coordinator now. Yeah.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: So now everyone in the building is going to feel
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: that pressure.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: So their defense is, may be looking at the offense
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: a little differently, and they may try and do too
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: much in terms of ratcheting up the pressure and trying
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: to create plays as opposed to sitting back and letting
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: those plays come to them.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Offensively for the Broncos, Bucky, I know you don't know.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Sometimes when play callers give up play calling, they're still
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: in it. It seemed like it's a little more Sean
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: gave it to Davis Webb. Bucky, some guys, again, I
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: don't know Sean, but I've watched him in the league
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: so often. Teams I've covered have played his teams. Some coaches,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it's in their DNA to be the guy with the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: play sheet. I think there's one down the hall who
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I have a tough time seeing Liam give up the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: play sheet just because it's what you are, right? It's
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the way you're connected to the game. I can't speak
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: for Liam, but that's how he feels. I feel like
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: he feels it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Sean seems like the same guy that I was surprised
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: he gave it up. Uh, I don't know how long
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: it'll last. It's not my business, but you would think
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: there'd be a little more involvement this week.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, I think there's a lot more involvement this week.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I think when he looked at it and it was
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: 15 to six, uh, pass run at halftime, I think
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: even the former quarterback in him is like, Hey man,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: we need to be more balanced. We need to run
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: the football. We don't run the football. We don't have
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: a chance. Um, I think that's a big part of it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: The other part of it is when you have a
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: game like that, normally you got everybody's attention when you're
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: coaching them. So if you can harp on some little things,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: things that are controllable to keep that edge, to keep
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: it feisty, to make sure they understand, hey, this is
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: why we really lost. We lost because of these things.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: You'll get a much better effort, a more spirited effort.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: And if they're able to have some success early, well,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: now it's going to be a long day. the best
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: bet to deal with the team that's struggling, jump on
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: them early and make them begin to question everything that
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: is taking place in the offseason because they'll say they're
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: not prepared.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Gotcha.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you want guys talking to each other on the sidelines.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Accusing each other of things. We'll be back in a moment.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about the Jaguars' defense. This
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: I thought he wreaked some havoc, especially early on in
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: the game. I think those guys all were, were doing
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: a nice job rushing and affecting the quarterback at times.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Like he can be a savage when, when he really
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: wants to be right. And like when he's going and
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: he's staying low and coming off the rock and not
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: hesitating or, you know, kind of waiting for the set
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: like in just going and causing havoc and, He can
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: be that way, and I was pleased to see that
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: show up in week one especially.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: defensive coverage of the game presented by GEHA, Government Employees
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Health Association, benefits for federal employees and retirees. And Bucky,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: it probably goes without saying, he was talking about Trayvon
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Walker in that clip. I think savage sort of fits,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I think. Mike Tomlin calling him wrecking ball a few
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: years ago fits. Uh, but when I watch him, look,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: not like speed rush outside guy, but he's like this
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: bulldozer who can also run and just collapse offenses. If,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: if they're not really, really stout and preparing for him, um,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: it's almost like he's two or three players out there
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: with the strength. Uh, who's that guy in the fantastic
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: for the thing? I mean, that's what he sort of
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: reminds you of. Cause if he's just bowling over people, uh,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: he plays like the number one pick in a draft
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: He does. He's super talented.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: He's super, um, I would say conscientious in terms of
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: wanting to be great. Talking to him after the game,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: he just talks about the only thing he cares about
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: is just developing and trying to be better each week.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: And that the team has embraced that and just, hey,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: let's just be the best versions of ourselves this week.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Let's focus in and see if we can maximize every
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: day at the practice field or on the practice field
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: to become the team that we want to become.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I can see it when the team lines up in
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: empty formation. They are relentless. They go after it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Their physical playing style and all that shows up. So
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: to me, All these things are working. You just want
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: to see a continuation of it. But number 44 plays
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: a big part in why it's working because the defense
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: really responds to him, not only verbally, but what he
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: does on the field. His actions match his words.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I happened, just very coincidental today, I was in
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the locker room getting ready to walk back down to
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: the show, looked over and Trayvon and Trevor just happened
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: to be talking, right? Just the two of them. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I thought, okay, well, there you go, right?
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Two guys who anybody in the locker room looks at
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and says, you know, if you have any questions on
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: how to do this, just do what they do. And,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: you know, they're the kind of guys, look, Trayvon's in
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: his fifth year, Trevor's in his sixth. They are now,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: they know how to be pros. They're in their prime.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: You know, it was just, you know, nothing really to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: end this bad, long story of mine. It just, They
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: are the core, along with a few other guys. Josh
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Hines-Allen and Trayvon is what I want to talk to
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: you about in this segment. They're the two best players
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: on the defense, I think. They played like it's Sunday,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: and when those two guys are healthy, their versatility, ability
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to both stop the run and play in the pass,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I think that combination maybe makes them unique among edge
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: defenders in this league.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I'm I kind of expect you to do something with
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: 41 and 44 because they were so good on Sunday.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Well, there you have it. There's even a graphic up here, Bucky.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I saw that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: And pictures, for goodness sake.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing that I immediately noticed is the physicality
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: and the violence that they played with. They talked about camp,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: getting them going, wanting to put 11 guys on the
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: field that can kind of bang people around. They look
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: forward to it and those things. But the other thing,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: play style, stop to run. So 22 carries, 87 yards.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Those guys played a part of that because they had
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: to own their respective gaps. Pressure to pass. Five sacks
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: between the group. Force two turnovers.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: So if you think about their play style and how
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: they really, really, really want to play, it's not necessarily
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: about pressing the issue. It's allowing the issue to come
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: to them.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But then they.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Dictate the turns with the way that they ratchet up
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: the physicality and violence over a 60-minute period.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you. This is more of a defensive segment,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: but I did have one overall question to the analyst
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: about the Browns. And it kind of goes back to
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the offense, Trevor. And somebody said to me today, well,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: maybe the Browns were just bad. And I don't know.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I don't think that.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's probably missing a little bit to just
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: write off the Browns and Trevor's performance as, oh, they
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: did it against a team that went 5-12 last year.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know that the Browns are going to give
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: up four touchdowns in rapid succession and make quarterbacks look
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: good this year. And sometimes you get that. I mean,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that happens. But I think people, although they're praising Trevor,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a subtext to people saying, well, okay,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it was that. But I don't know that that's accurate
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: in this case.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no. God, there's so many ways to go. when
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: it comes to that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Like there is something to that. Like you talked about
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: the betrayal and, and, and all of that. I just
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: think in, in general with this team and where we're going, offense, defense,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: and the kicking game certainly has to improve. I think
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: we have to get used to expectations being met. I
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: think we have to get used to whatever the words
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: that coaches are saying to us, they're saying those same
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: things in the building and the team is going to
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: respond to that is weird.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I know John, because we have PDSD, right?
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Like we just, the trauma and the stress, we're not
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: used to having good things.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Fair, yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: I think we should be able to embrace this team
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: because to me, I think it's a good thing and
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I think it's the start of what we're going to
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: call a glorious rundown at Jacksonville because this team is
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: really embracing being consistent. And if you're consistent in your
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: effort and your preparation, at some point, the wins are
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: going to come. This team understands how to go about winning.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Now it's just about doing it week in, week out.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, rookie host jumped the gun a little bit. We'll
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: hear from Trevor after the break a little bit about
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: his thoughts on this praise that he's getting Bucky. When
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: we return, we're going to look at that on Huddle
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Up with Bucky Brooks.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Not really. Yeah, I just think all that stuff is
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: funny because I've been through a lot of good and
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: bad and it doesn't move the needle much for me.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: It just is what it is. I think our team
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: we played well on Sunday. So hopefully our whole team's
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: getting a little bit of credit for it. But at
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: the end of the day, we got another one this
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Sunday in Denver. So people forget pretty quickly in this league,
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: whether it's good or bad. So we got to move on.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: All right. Welcome back to huddle up with Bucky Brooks.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Huddle up with Bucky Brooks is brought to you by
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Fields Auto Group, Jacksonville. See Fields first. Jacksonville's premier luxury
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: auto group. Go to fieldsauto.com. And Bucky, we talked about
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Trevor a lot. And I thought that was very typical
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: of his approach with this. He's been in the spotlight, what,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: six years here, two or three at Clemson, didn't get
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of criticism at Clemson, but he's lived
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: through it where he was the prince that was promised,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the guy who couldn't get it done, the guy who needed,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: you know, oh, they signed him too soon, all of that, whatever.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And obviously he never let it, I never thought it
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: really affected him, but, uh, you know, he's not at
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the point, like I said, when I looked over and
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: saw him and Trayvon talk, it's like, well, these are
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: two guys who have both sort of heard everything, heard
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: what they're not, heard what they are, and just, you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: they're the perfect guys, particularly Trevor, I guess, to be
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: sort of leading this because he knows what's important. He's
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: going to stick to it, you know, blah, blah, blah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I guess. But they're in good hands.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they are in good hands.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: And I'll say this in looking at the clip with Trevor.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: If you've been around, you've seen the maturity, right? Like
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: you've seen him kind of go through some hard stuff.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: He had a great initial deal where he had that
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: success with Doug Peterson. They win the playoff game at home,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: go on the road, play the Chiefs tight. Then you
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: struggle at some points with injuries and those things. You're
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: not quite able to get back to that pinnacle. Now
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: we're looking and everyone is saying like, man, this dude
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: is a viable MVP player. candidate like like legitimate given
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: what he was able to do like running and throwing
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: we just see all the good things that he brings
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: and look that's the last half of the season so
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: you should be uh anticipating that he is going to
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: dice up opponents but what do people do to slow
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: this down because the quarterback is playing so good you
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: have to change the picture you have to make him
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: think you have to make him uh make tough decisions
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: when it comes to who goes deep.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Who goes where um a few final thoughts. We're going
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: to get to the fact that Jaguars are leading the
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: AFC South, but I did want to ask you one thing, Bucky,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: about Josh Cameron with a huge catch, right? Uh, I'll, I'll,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I'll sort of follow the story a little bit and say,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect Josh Cameron to be in the game
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: at that point. My NFL reporters, body clock tells me
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that when you've got BTJ, Parker, Washington, uh, you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: a slew of receivers, uh, uh, Jacoby Myers.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Travis Hunter. Yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Usually, even if a kid's earned it, I looked around
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: at the sidelines trying to figure out who was hurt, Bucky.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Because you've been in a six-round pick, even if they've
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: earned it, usually doesn't get the time. But that's not
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: how these guys work. You have Pregnon playing. You had B.J.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Green and Strigow last year playing. I guess what I'm
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: getting at is this goes back to me to the
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: fact that this franchise from day one with Paselli, Gladstone,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: and Cohen has said, the best guys are going to play.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: We don't care. Whatever. Cameron, by NFL norm, he shouldn't
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: have been playing. But that's not how this team works.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I think it's significant for this team.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, very significant because what you're talking about doing is
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: operating a meritocracy where people get on the field based
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: on uh, their works, their deeds. And if you can
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: trust them, and obviously you're the conversation, all priests is
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: when we can have those meetings, I'll talk about, man,
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: the young guys are playing really well at the time.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Uh, CZ Williams might've been in a head, but.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: It's easy to say a circle, not always easy to do.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: It come full circle. He now, uh, Cameron has an
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: opportunity to make plays.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: He gets his shot. They call his number. He runs
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: the right play and makes the play.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: So now that gives him an opportunity to get more
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: plays put on his plate when it comes in there. Um,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: This team is exactly what James Gladstone and Liam Cohen
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: said it would be. We are going to be aggressive
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: developmental program, but there are going to be spots and
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: opportunities for the young guys to get on the field
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: if they take advantage of their moments. Right now, we're
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: seeing some young guys get ready to take care of
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: their moments so they can step into the line, step
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: into the line and really step into the lineup as
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: a permanent fixture, which everyone wants that. Everyone wants that
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: consistency on each side of the ball.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been around a team that says they're
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: not going to do that. I've been around a lot
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: of teams that don't actually do it. So pretty impressive. Look, Bucky,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars lead the division. They're 1-0. I know it's
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: week one, but it's still significant because you believe this
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: is going to be tight. We learned last year everything's
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: sort of a race. Getting out front, getting a game
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: up matters at this point. Just very quickly, two games...
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Did the Texans surprise you?
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: It surprised me that their defense could not contain Josh Allen.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Last year, we thought about that being one of the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: more suffocating units to have to defend, but then to
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: give up 36.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Ooh, I mean, Buffalo's good, but they.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Shouldn't be able to put 36 up against a second-rate
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: defense involved.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that struck me as maybe week one weirdness playing through.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: We'll see how the Texans shape up. The Colts losing
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to the Ravens. Oof.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: That.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Man, donkey kicked.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, well.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Just watching that tape. The Baltimore Ravens did whatever they wanted.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson early at the game, traditional drop back passes, bootlegs,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: shotgun takeoff and run. Derrick Henry had well over 100 yards.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Did it on 32 carries. So just a physical presence.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Because the boxes were loaded. He still was able to
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: kind of grind it up in there. and do his thing.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: These are the kinds of games that you expect to see,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: like almost 40 minutes of time, time for possession, control everything,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: beating people down, make it a physical affair, all that stuff.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: That's what it kind of has to be. And that's
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: what I would expect it to be against these teams.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Not only the Broncos, but whoever else lines up opposite
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: the Jacks.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Week one can be such an outlier. Those are
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: obviously two things to watch. Um, look, we're going to wrap, uh,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Week two against the Broncos. Anything we missed or basically
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: just tell me how you feel like this game's going
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to feel on Sunday.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Number one thing that the Jags got to prepare for,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of energy and effort from the Broncos initially.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: They're prideful. They were embarrassed on Monday night.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: So all week they've heard Sean Payton make all kinds
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: of wisecracks and sarcasm about this team not being good.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: So look for them.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: To have a really focused approach, a team that would
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: be probably emotionally redlining early.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: And so you've got to be ready for that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: But then you also have to be able to take
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: advantage of some of the things that they do, offensively
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: and defensively. Defensively, they're going to bring pressure. Well, every
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: time someone brings pressure, that's a big play opportunity for somebody.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Got to make some plays. And then when it comes
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: to the Jags' defense, Bo Nix is one of the
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: best in the business when it comes to closing out.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Last year, he had seven fourth-quarter comebacks, most in the league.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: You got to make sure that he does not have
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: an opportunity at the end of the game to make
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: things happen. And so take care of your business early
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: so we can chill late. It's going to take a
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: great effort from the Jaguars to get it done, but
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: they should be able.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: To get it done.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked what you said earlier, Bucky. I think
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: this is a team that fans, because they've been burned,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: every game like this feels like, oh, this is a
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: big opportunity. People are against us, et cetera. I think
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: this year you're going to feel different. Fans going, oh,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: this is the kind of game that the Jaguars play now.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: You know, 4 o'clock against good teams. I know they're
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: going to win every big game they have this year,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: but you're going to get used to seeing Trevor interviewed
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: on the field after big games, after a win. Hasn't
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: been that way for a long time, so it's hard. But,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: you know, it's going to be fun, and this is
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the first of a lot of fun games this year.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's going to be the vibe. So
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: we will see you. In Denver Sunday. I know you'll
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: be staying at a five-star hotel somewhere. Hopefully. It's been
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the Huddle Up Podcast. Thank you to Brent Reber, Joe Fortunato,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. I'm John Ogier. Bucky, we'll see you Sunday.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: All right, man. It should be a lot of fun.