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- 0:57We
- 0:57know
- 0:57by
- 0:58today's
- 0:58standards
- 0:59that
- 0:59modern
- 0:59defenses,
- 1:00their
- 1:00objective
- 1:01is
- 1:01to
- 1:01stop
- 1:01the
- 1:01offense.
- 1:02Well,
- 1:02the
- 1:02best
- 1:03way
- 1:03to
- 1:03do
- 1:03that
- 1:03is
- 1:04to
- 1:04take
- 1:04the
- 1:04ball
- 1:04from
- 1:05them.
- 1:05We
- 1:05have
- 1:05some
- 1:06early
- 1:06ways
- 1:06explained
- 1:07by
- 1:07Tim
- 1:07Brown
- 1:08how
- 1:08defenses
- 1:09tried
- 1:09to
- 1:09get
- 1:09that
- 1:10ball
- 1:10back.
- 1:10It's
- 1:11all
- 1:11coming
- 1:11up
- 1:11with
- 1:11Tim
- 1:12in
- 1:12just
- 1:12a
- 1:12moment.
- 1:14This
- 1:14is
- 1:14the
- 1:14Pigskin
- 1:15Daily
- 1:15History
- 1:16Dispatch,
- 1:16a
- 1:17podcast
- 1:17that
- 1:17covers
- 1:18the
- 1:18anniversaries
- 1:18of
- 1:19American
- 1:19football
- 1:20events
- 1:20throughout
- 1:20history.
- 1:21Your
- 1:21host,
- 1:22Darrin
- 1:22Hayes,
- 1:23is
- 1:23podcasting
- 1:24from
- 1:24America's
- 1:24North
- 1:25Shore
- 1:25to
- 1:25bring
- 1:26you
- 1:26the
- 1:26memories
- 1:26of
- 1:26the
- 1:27gridiron
- 1:27one
- 1:28day
- 1:28at
- 1:28a
- 1:28time.
- 1:33Before
- 1:33we
- 1:33get
- 1:33into
- 1:33our
- 1:33episode
- 1:34today,
- 1:34let's
- 1:34take
- 1:35the
- 1:35time
- 1:35to
- 1:35drill
- 1:35that
- 1:36football
- 1:36right
- 1:36into
- 1:36the
- 1:37like
- 1:37and
- 1:37subscribe
- 1:38button
- 1:38on
- 1:38your
- 1:38console
- 1:39so
- 1:39you
- 1:40know
- 1:40exactly
- 1:40when
- 1:41the
- 1:41notifications
- 1:41come
- 1:42up
- 1:42of
- 1:42the
- 1:42latest
- 1:43releases
- 1:43of
- 1:43Pigskin
- 1:44Dispatch
- 1:44podcast
- 1:45for
- 1:45some
- 1:45more
- 1:45great
- 1:45football
- 1:46history.
- 1:46Now,
- 1:46on
- 1:46to
- 1:47our
- 1:47episode.
- 1:47Hello,
- 1:48my
- 1:48football
- 1:48friends.
- 1:48This
- 1:49is
- 1:49Darren
- 1:49Hayes
- 1:49of
- 1:49pigskindispatch.com
- 1:50welcome.
- 1:51Once
- 1:51again
- 1:51to
- 1:51the
- 1:51Pig
- 1:51Pen,
- 1:52your.
- 1:52Portal
- 1:52deposit
- 1:53of
- 1:53football
- 1:53history.
- 1:54And
- 1:54welcome
- 1:54to
- 1:54another
- 1:55evening
- 1:55where
- 1:56we
- 1:56get
- 1:56to
- 1:56enjoy
- 1:57a
- 1:57talk
- 1:57with
- 1:58Timothy
- 1:58p.
- 1:58Brown
- 1:58of
- 1:59footballarchaeology.com
- 2:00to
- 2:00go
- 2:00over
- 2:01some.
- 2:01Some
- 2:01great
- 2:01football
- 2:01history.
- 2:02Tim,
- 2:02welcome
- 2:02back
- 2:03to
- 2:03the
- 2:03Pig
- 2:03Pen.
- 2:04Darren,
- 2:04good
- 2:05to
- 2:05see
- 2:05you.
- 2:05And
- 2:06I
- 2:07don't
- 2:07want
- 2:07to
- 2:07steal
- 2:07your
- 2:07thunder,
- 2:08but
- 2:08I'm
- 2:09gonna
- 2:09steal
- 2:09your
- 2:09thunder
- 2:10here.
- 2:11Gonna
- 2:11steal
- 2:11my.
- 2:12I'm
- 2:12not
- 2:12going
- 2:12to
- 2:12tell
- 2:12you
- 2:12how
- 2:12I'm
- 2:12gonna
- 2:13do
- 2:13it.
- 2:13I'm
- 2:13just
- 2:13telling
- 2:13you
- 2:14that
- 2:14I'm
- 2:14gonna.
- 2:14Well,
- 2:14it's
- 2:15like
- 2:15a.
- 2:15It's
- 2:15like
- 2:15a
- 2:15punch
- 2:16right
- 2:16in
- 2:16the
- 2:16mouth
- 2:16there,
- 2:16Tim.
- 2:17You
- 2:17know,
- 2:17you
- 2:17saying
- 2:18that
- 2:18to
- 2:18me.
- 2:18So
- 2:18you
- 2:18got
- 2:19a
- 2:19puncher's
- 2:19chance
- 2:19at,
- 2:20or
- 2:21keeping
- 2:21up
- 2:21with
- 2:21me
- 2:22on
- 2:22this
- 2:22one.
- 2:23All
- 2:23right,
- 2:23well,
- 2:24we'll
- 2:24end
- 2:24these
- 2:24punch
- 2:25lines
- 2:25that
- 2:26we're
- 2:26so
- 2:26poorly
- 2:27doing
- 2:28because
- 2:28we're
- 2:29trying
- 2:29to
- 2:29segue
- 2:29into
- 2:30a
- 2:30recent
- 2:31article
- 2:31that
- 2:31Tim
- 2:32wrote
- 2:32called
- 2:32A
- 2:32Puncher's
- 2:33Chance
- 2:33to
- 2:34Recover
- 2:34Fumbles.
- 2:35Tim,
- 2:35what
- 2:36can
- 2:36you
- 2:36tell
- 2:36us
- 2:36about
- 2:36this
- 2:36tidbit?
- 2:38Yeah,
- 2:39it's
- 2:39kind
- 2:40of
- 2:40interesting.
- 2:40I.
- 2:41Some
- 2:41ways
- 2:41I
- 2:41hadn't
- 2:41even
- 2:42thought
- 2:42about
- 2:42it,
- 2:42I
- 2:43think,
- 2:43until
- 2:43just
- 2:43now.
- 2:43But,
- 2:44you
- 2:45know,
- 2:45in
- 2:45early
- 2:45football
- 2:47like
- 2:47today,
- 2:48the
- 2:48defense
- 2:49could
- 2:49advance
- 2:49a
- 2:50fumble.
- 2:51And,
- 2:51you
- 2:52know,
- 2:52it.
- 2:52It
- 2:53really,
- 2:53I
- 2:53assume,
- 2:54just
- 2:54goes
- 2:54back
- 2:54to
- 2:55the.
- 2:55The
- 2:55rugby
- 2:56days
- 2:56where,
- 2:56you
- 2:56know,
- 2:57no
- 2:58team
- 2:58had
- 2:58possession
- 2:59of
- 2:59the
- 2:59ball
- 2:59and
- 3:00if
- 3:00you
- 3:00could
- 3:00grab
- 3:00the
- 3:00ball
- 3:01or
- 3:01whatever,
- 3:01you
- 3:01know,
- 3:02have
- 3:02at
- 3:02it,
- 3:02and
- 3:02if
- 3:02it's
- 3:03bouncing
- 3:03around,
- 3:03you
- 3:04pick
- 3:04it
- 3:04up
- 3:05and
- 3:05run
- 3:05or
- 3:05you
- 3:05pick
- 3:05it
- 3:05up
- 3:05and
- 3:06punt
- 3:06it,
- 3:06you
- 3:06know,
- 3:06one
- 3:07way
- 3:07or
- 3:07the
- 3:07other.
- 3:09But
- 3:10there
- 3:10came
- 3:11a
- 3:11time
- 3:12in
- 3:12the,
- 3:13you
- 3:13know,
- 3:13as.
- 3:14As
- 3:14they
- 3:14were
- 3:14trying
- 3:15to
- 3:15expand
- 3:16offenses
- 3:16you
- 3:16know,
- 3:17they
- 3:17put
- 3:17in
- 3:17the
- 3:17forward
- 3:17Pass
- 3:18in
- 3:181906,
- 3:19and.
- 3:20But,
- 3:20you
- 3:20know,
- 3:21they
- 3:21kept.
- 3:21Kept
- 3:22that
- 3:22restricted
- 3:23in
- 3:23multiple
- 3:23ways
- 3:25that,
- 3:26you
- 3:26know,
- 3:26isn't
- 3:27the
- 3:27case
- 3:27today.
- 3:28But
- 3:29there
- 3:29was.
- 3:30There's
- 3:30a
- 3:30movement,
- 3:31several
- 3:31different
- 3:31movements
- 3:32to
- 3:32try
- 3:32to
- 3:33encourage
- 3:34lateraling.
- 3:35And,
- 3:36you
- 3:36know,
- 3:36I
- 3:36think
- 3:36part
- 3:37of
- 3:37it
- 3:37was
- 3:37just,
- 3:37you
- 3:37know,
- 3:38people
- 3:38being
- 3:38exposed
- 3:39to
- 3:39rugby
- 3:40or
- 3:40remembering
- 3:41about
- 3:41rugby.
- 3:41Part
- 3:41of
- 3:42it
- 3:42was
- 3:42exposure
- 3:42to
- 3:42Canadian
- 3:43rugby
- 3:44and
- 3:45where
- 3:45the
- 3:46lateral
- 3:46was
- 3:46still
- 3:47a
- 3:47major
- 3:47part
- 3:47of
- 3:47the
- 3:47game.
- 3:48And
- 3:49so
- 3:50they
- 3:50just
- 3:50saw
- 3:50that
- 3:50as
- 3:51something
- 3:51that
- 3:51they
- 3:51should
- 3:52encourage.
- 3:52And
- 3:53so
- 3:53one
- 3:53of
- 3:53the
- 3:53things
- 3:53they
- 3:54wanted
- 3:54to
- 3:54encourage,
- 3:55one
- 3:55specific
- 3:56play
- 3:56was
- 3:57what
- 3:58people
- 4:00now
- 4:00call
- 4:00a
- 4:00hook
- 4:01and
- 4:01lateral,
- 4:01or
- 4:01hook
- 4:02and,
- 4:02you
- 4:02know,
- 4:02people
- 4:03sometimes
- 4:03call
- 4:03it
- 4:03hook
- 4:03and
- 4:04ladder,
- 4:04but.
- 4:05But
- 4:05it
- 4:05was
- 4:05originally
- 4:06called
- 4:07the
- 4:07flea
- 4:07flicker,
- 4:08which
- 4:09was
- 4:09you
- 4:09throw
- 4:09the
- 4:10pass
- 4:11to
- 4:11somebody
- 4:11downfield,
- 4:13and
- 4:13as
- 4:14soon
- 4:14as
- 4:14he
- 4:14catches
- 4:15it,
- 4:15typically
- 4:16he's
- 4:16pitching
- 4:16it
- 4:17to
- 4:18a
- 4:18teammate
- 4:18who's,
- 4:19you
- 4:19know,
- 4:19sweeping
- 4:20around
- 4:20him.
- 4:21So
- 4:21that,
- 4:21again,
- 4:21that
- 4:22was,
- 4:22you
- 4:22know,
- 4:22Bob
- 4:22Zuck,
- 4:23Bob
- 4:24Zuppke,
- 4:25he
- 4:25originated
- 4:25the
- 4:26play.
- 4:26But,
- 4:26you
- 4:26know,
- 4:26that
- 4:26was
- 4:26originally
- 4:27called
- 4:27the
- 4:27flea
- 4:28flicker.
- 4:29And
- 4:30so
- 4:32they
- 4:32want
- 4:32to
- 4:32encourage
- 4:33stuff
- 4:33like
- 4:33that
- 4:33and
- 4:33then
- 4:33just
- 4:34general
- 4:34lateraling,
- 4:35you
- 4:35know.
- 4:36And
- 4:36it's
- 4:36funny
- 4:37because
- 4:38it
- 4:38didn't
- 4:39really
- 4:39take
- 4:40off
- 4:40very
- 4:40much,
- 4:41but
- 4:41the
- 4:42whole
- 4:42option
- 4:43football
- 4:43did
- 4:44come
- 4:44later.
- 4:44You
- 4:45know,
- 4:45a
- 4:45little
- 4:45bit.
- 4:46Little
- 4:46bit
- 4:46later
- 4:47that
- 4:47came
- 4:47on,
- 4:48which
- 4:48is
- 4:48basically,
- 4:49you
- 4:50know,
- 4:50kind
- 4:50of
- 4:50similar
- 4:51to
- 4:51the
- 4:51rugby
- 4:52style
- 4:52lateraling
- 4:53as
- 4:53football
- 4:54has.
- 4:56So
- 4:56anyways,
- 4:57in.
- 4:57In
- 4:57trying
- 4:58to
- 4:58encourage
- 4:58that,
- 4:58one
- 4:58of
- 4:59one
- 4:59of
- 4:59the
- 5:00things
- 5:00that
- 5:01discouraged
- 5:02offenses
- 5:02from
- 5:03lateraling
- 5:03was
- 5:04the
- 5:04ability
- 5:04of
- 5:05the
- 5:05defense
- 5:05to
- 5:05advance
- 5:06the
- 5:06ball
- 5:07on
- 5:07a
- 5:08fumble.
- 5:08So
- 5:09in
- 5:091929,
- 5:09the
- 5:10institute
- 5:10a
- 5:10rule
- 5:10that
- 5:11said,
- 5:11you
- 5:11know,
- 5:12the
- 5:12offense
- 5:13can
- 5:13potentially
- 5:14advance
- 5:14a
- 5:15fumble,
- 5:15but
- 5:15the
- 5:15defense
- 5:16cannot
- 5:17and,
- 5:17you
- 5:17know,
- 5:18become.
- 5:18Becomes
- 5:19a
- 5:19dead
- 5:19ball
- 5:19once
- 5:19the
- 5:20defense
- 5:20recovers
- 5:20it.
- 5:22So
- 5:23the
- 5:23whole
- 5:23possibility
- 5:24of
- 5:24the
- 5:24scoop
- 5:25and
- 5:25score
- 5:25disappeared
- 5:27with
- 5:27one
- 5:28exception.
- 5:29And
- 5:29so
- 5:29the
- 5:29exception
- 5:30was
- 5:31that
- 5:32the
- 5:33ball
- 5:33became
- 5:33dead
- 5:34if
- 5:34the
- 5:34defense
- 5:35recovered
- 5:35it
- 5:36after
- 5:36the
- 5:36ball
- 5:37touched
- 5:37the
- 5:37ground.
- 5:39If
- 5:39the
- 5:39defense
- 5:40got
- 5:41the
- 5:41ball
- 5:41because
- 5:42it
- 5:42popped
- 5:42up
- 5:42in
- 5:42the
- 5:42air
- 5:43or
- 5:44because
- 5:44they
- 5:45tackled
- 5:46the.
- 5:47The
- 5:47ball
- 5:47carrier
- 5:48in
- 5:48a
- 5:48way
- 5:48that
- 5:49allowed
- 5:49them
- 5:49to
- 5:49just
- 5:49grab
- 5:50the
- 5:50ball
- 5:50away
- 5:50from
- 5:50them
- 5:51or
- 5:52they
- 5:52intercepted
- 5:53a,
- 5:53you
- 5:53know,
- 5:54a
- 5:54lateral
- 5:55or
- 5:55pitch.
- 5:56Any
- 5:56of
- 5:56those
- 5:56three
- 5:57were
- 5:57ways
- 5:58that
- 5:58the
- 5:58defense
- 5:58could
- 5:58advance
- 5:59the
- 5:59ball.
- 6:00And
- 6:00so
- 6:00they
- 6:00could
- 6:01still
- 6:03catch
- 6:03and
- 6:03score.
- 6:03They
- 6:04couldn't
- 6:04scoop
- 6:04and
- 6:04score
- 6:05or
- 6:05grab
- 6:06and
- 6:06score.
- 6:07So
- 6:08that
- 6:09led
- 6:09to
- 6:09a
- 6:09whole
- 6:10thing,
- 6:10a
- 6:10whole
- 6:11vocabulary
- 6:11of
- 6:12stealing
- 6:13the
- 6:13ball.
- 6:14And
- 6:15so
- 6:16if
- 6:16you
- 6:16deliberate.
- 6:17Well,
- 6:18they
- 6:19didn't
- 6:19really
- 6:19differentiate
- 6:20at
- 6:20the
- 6:20time
- 6:20whether
- 6:20it
- 6:20was
- 6:21you
- 6:21deliberately
- 6:21stole
- 6:22the
- 6:22ball
- 6:22from
- 6:23the
- 6:23offense
- 6:23or
- 6:24if
- 6:24it
- 6:24just,
- 6:24you
- 6:24know,
- 6:24the
- 6:24ball
- 6:25popped
- 6:25up.
- 6:26But
- 6:26you
- 6:27know,
- 6:27in
- 6:27the
- 6:27tidbit,
- 6:27I
- 6:28show
- 6:28some
- 6:28newspaper
- 6:29headlines
- 6:29where
- 6:30a
- 6:31game
- 6:31is
- 6:31won
- 6:31because
- 6:32Tech
- 6:32stole
- 6:33the
- 6:33ball
- 6:33from
- 6:34Auburn
- 6:34or
- 6:35whomever,
- 6:35you
- 6:35know,
- 6:35whatever
- 6:35the
- 6:37team
- 6:37combination
- 6:37was.
- 6:39And
- 6:40you
- 6:40know,
- 6:40a
- 6:40couple
- 6:40other
- 6:41funny
- 6:41things
- 6:41about
- 6:41that
- 6:42was
- 6:42that
- 6:42there
- 6:42were
- 6:43a
- 6:44lot
- 6:44of
- 6:44folks
- 6:45kind
- 6:45of
- 6:45thought
- 6:46that
- 6:46whole
- 6:46thing
- 6:46was
- 6:47unsportsmanlike,
- 6:48you
- 6:48know,
- 6:49that
- 6:50stealing,
- 6:50deliberately
- 6:51stealing
- 6:52the
- 6:52ball
- 6:52or
- 6:53tackling
- 6:53the
- 6:53ball
- 6:54to
- 6:54get
- 6:54it
- 6:55away
- 6:55from
- 6:55the
- 6:55ball
- 6:55carrier.
- 6:56They
- 6:56thought
- 6:57that
- 6:57was
- 6:57unsportsmanlike.
- 6:58And
- 6:59so
- 6:59there
- 6:59were
- 6:59attempts
- 7:00to
- 7:00get
- 7:01rid
- 7:01of
- 7:01that,
- 7:02to
- 7:03make
- 7:03that
- 7:03illegal,
- 7:04you
- 7:04know,
- 7:04to
- 7:05do.
- 7:05And,
- 7:06you
- 7:06know,
- 7:06then
- 7:06the,
- 7:06the
- 7:07offense
- 7:07would
- 7:07just
- 7:07retain
- 7:08possession
- 7:08of
- 7:08the
- 7:09ball.
- 7:10Another
- 7:10thing
- 7:10that
- 7:11was
- 7:11just
- 7:11kind
- 7:11of
- 7:11fun,
- 7:11I
- 7:12thought,
- 7:12was
- 7:12that
- 7:13during
- 7:13that
- 7:13time
- 7:14in
- 7:14the
- 7:1420s,
- 7:16University
- 7:16of
- 7:16Pennsylvania
- 7:17was
- 7:17known
- 7:18as
- 7:18a
- 7:18school
- 7:18that,
- 7:20know,
- 7:20coached
- 7:21stealing
- 7:21the
- 7:22ball,
- 7:22right?
- 7:23And
- 7:23there
- 7:24were
- 7:24times
- 7:24where
- 7:25Penn
- 7:25was,
- 7:26Princeton
- 7:27before
- 7:27them.
- 7:27But
- 7:27then,
- 7:28you
- 7:28know,
- 7:28maybe
- 7:29in
- 7:29the
- 7:2920s
- 7:30and
- 7:30stuff,
- 7:31Penn
- 7:32had
- 7:32a
- 7:32reputation
- 7:32as
- 7:33maybe
- 7:33not
- 7:33always
- 7:34being
- 7:34the,
- 7:35the
- 7:35most
- 7:36sportsmanlike
- 7:37fellas
- 7:37on
- 7:37the,
- 7:38on
- 7:38the,
- 7:38you
- 7:38know,
- 7:38on
- 7:39the
- 7:39gridiron.
- 7:40And
- 7:40so
- 7:41that
- 7:41was
- 7:41just
- 7:41one
- 7:41example
- 7:42that
- 7:42now
- 7:43we
- 7:43just
- 7:43think,
- 7:43well,
- 7:44that's
- 7:44smart.
- 7:44You
- 7:44know,
- 7:44they
- 7:45got
- 7:45tackle
- 7:45the
- 7:45ball.
- 7:46But
- 7:46at
- 7:47the
- 7:47time
- 7:47it
- 7:47was
- 7:48just,
- 7:48you
- 7:48know,
- 7:48they
- 7:48kind
- 7:48of
- 7:48thought
- 7:49that
- 7:49was
- 7:49not,
- 7:49that
- 7:49was
- 7:50not
- 7:50a
- 7:50good
- 7:50thing.
- 7:52Just
- 7:52maybe
- 7:52a
- 7:53last
- 7:53point
- 7:54about
- 7:54it
- 7:54is
- 7:54that
- 7:56there
- 7:56were
- 7:57players
- 7:58and
- 7:58one
- 7:58guy
- 7:58in
- 7:58particular,
- 7:59Chuck
- 7:59Taylor,
- 8:00who.
- 8:01Not
- 8:02the
- 8:02guy
- 8:02that
- 8:02the
- 8:03shoes
- 8:03are
- 8:03based
- 8:03on,
- 8:04but
- 8:05he
- 8:05was,
- 8:06you
- 8:06know,
- 8:06star
- 8:06football
- 8:07player,
- 8:07coach,
- 8:07and
- 8:07then
- 8:08later
- 8:08the
- 8:08AD
- 8:08at
- 8:09Stanford
- 8:10and
- 8:10when
- 8:10he
- 8:11was
- 8:11a
- 8:11sophomore,
- 8:11he
- 8:12stole
- 8:12the
- 8:12ball
- 8:13from,
- 8:13from,
- 8:13from
- 8:14some
- 8:14opponent
- 8:15and,
- 8:15you
- 8:15know,
- 8:15took
- 8:16it
- 8:16in
- 8:16for
- 8:16a
- 8:16score.
- 8:17And
- 8:17it
- 8:17was
- 8:17like,
- 8:18it
- 8:19was
- 8:19one
- 8:19of
- 8:19those
- 8:19plays
- 8:20where
- 8:20people
- 8:21viewed
- 8:21it
- 8:21as
- 8:22kind
- 8:22of
- 8:22the
- 8:22ultimate
- 8:22in
- 8:22athleticism.
- 8:23You
- 8:23know,
- 8:23if
- 8:23you
- 8:24were
- 8:24kind
- 8:24of
- 8:25tough
- 8:25enough
- 8:25to
- 8:25steal
- 8:26the
- 8:26ball
- 8:27and
- 8:28race
- 8:28in
- 8:28and
- 8:29score,
- 8:29that
- 8:29was
- 8:29like,
- 8:30you
- 8:31know,
- 8:31it
- 8:31was,
- 8:32you
- 8:32know,
- 8:32it
- 8:32tended
- 8:33to
- 8:33be
- 8:33like
- 8:33linebacker,
- 8:34tight
- 8:34endy
- 8:34type,
- 8:35you
- 8:35know,
- 8:35players
- 8:36that
- 8:36did
- 8:37that.
- 8:38And
- 8:38so
- 8:38anyways,
- 8:39it
- 8:39was
- 8:39kind
- 8:39of
- 8:39like
- 8:39a
- 8:40mark
- 8:40of
- 8:40athleticism
- 8:41and
- 8:41toughness
- 8:42if
- 8:42you
- 8:42were
- 8:42able
- 8:42to
- 8:42do
- 8:43that.
- 8:44So,
- 8:44you
- 8:44know,
- 8:44he
- 8:44was
- 8:44kind
- 8:44of
- 8:45glorified
- 8:45for
- 8:45that.
- 8:47And
- 8:48then,
- 8:48you
- 8:48know,
- 8:48that
- 8:49kind
- 8:49of
- 8:49stayed
- 8:49in
- 8:49place.
- 8:50And
- 8:50then
- 8:50in
- 8:511990,
- 8:53at
- 8:53least,
- 8:53the
- 8:53colleges
- 8:54changed
- 8:54the
- 8:54rule
- 8:55to
- 8:55allow
- 8:56defenses
- 8:57to
- 8:57advance
- 8:58fumbles.
- 8:59And
- 8:59in
- 9:001996,
- 9:01at
- 9:01least
- 9:02based
- 9:02on
- 9:02what
- 9:02I
- 9:02found
- 9:02in
- 9:03newspapers,
- 9:04that's
- 9:04the
- 9:04first
- 9:05time
- 9:05that
- 9:05this,
- 9:05the
- 9:06term
- 9:06scoop
- 9:06and
- 9:06score
- 9:08showed
- 9:08up
- 9:08in,
- 9:09in
- 9:09the
- 9:09newspapers.
- 9:10So
- 9:11anyways,
- 9:12just
- 9:13really,
- 9:13really,
- 9:14that
- 9:14rule.
- 9:14Change
- 9:14was
- 9:1519,
- 9:161989,
- 9:17it
- 9:17was
- 9:17still
- 9:17a
- 9:17defense
- 9:18couldn't
- 9:18advance
- 9:18a
- 9:18fumble.
- 9:191990,
- 9:19in
- 9:20college,
- 9:20I
- 9:20think
- 9:20the
- 9:21pro
- 9:21NFL
- 9:22had
- 9:22allowed
- 9:24scoop
- 9:24and
- 9:25score
- 9:25for
- 9:25a
- 9:25long
- 9:25time.
- 9:26Wow.
- 9:27Okay.
- 9:27I
- 9:27didn't
- 9:27realize,
- 9:28I
- 9:28don't
- 9:28know
- 9:28exactly
- 9:29when
- 9:29they,
- 9:29you
- 9:29know,
- 9:29when
- 9:30they,
- 9:30when
- 9:31they
- 9:31changed
- 9:31from
- 9:32the
- 9:32college
- 9:32rules.
- 9:33But
- 9:34yeah,
- 9:34in
- 9:34College,
- 9:34it
- 9:35was
- 9:351990.
- 9:37I
- 9:37was
- 9:38officiating
- 9:38in
- 9:39the
- 9:39late
- 9:3980s
- 9:39in
- 9:40high
- 9:40school
- 9:40football.
- 9:40And
- 9:41I
- 9:41know
- 9:41you
- 9:42could
- 9:42advance
- 9:42it
- 9:42there.
- 9:43I
- 9:43didn't
- 9:43realize
- 9:43college
- 9:44had
- 9:44a
- 9:44rule
- 9:44against
- 9:44that.
- 9:45Very
- 9:45interesting.
- 9:46Now,
- 9:47going
- 9:47back
- 9:47to
- 9:48something
- 9:48you
- 9:48said
- 9:48earlier,
- 9:49just
- 9:49to
- 9:50make
- 9:50some
- 9:50clarification.
- 9:51You
- 9:51said
- 9:51Zuppke's
- 9:52original
- 9:53play,
- 9:53that
- 9:53what
- 9:54we
- 9:54now
- 9:54know
- 9:54as
- 9:54the
- 9:55hook
- 9:55and
- 9:55lateral
- 9:56was
- 9:56called
- 9:57the
- 9:57flea
- 9:57flicker.
- 9:57So
- 9:58when
- 9:58did
- 9:59the
- 9:59flea
- 9:59flicker
- 10:00sort
- 10:00of
- 10:00go
- 10:00back
- 10:01to
- 10:01what
- 10:01we
- 10:02know
- 10:02today
- 10:02as
- 10:02a
- 10:02flea
- 10:03flicker
- 10:03of,
- 10:03you
- 10:03know,
- 10:04a
- 10:04handoff,
- 10:05you
- 10:05know,
- 10:06somebody
- 10:06feigning
- 10:06a
- 10:06charge
- 10:07in
- 10:07the
- 10:07line
- 10:07of
- 10:07running
- 10:08back,
- 10:08turning
- 10:08around,
- 10:08flipping
- 10:09it
- 10:09back,
- 10:09the
- 10:09quarterback,
- 10:10then
- 10:10a
- 10:10pass
- 10:10downfield.
- 10:12Yeah,
- 10:13I
- 10:13may
- 10:13have
- 10:14the
- 10:14date
- 10:14wrong,
- 10:15but
- 10:16it
- 10:16was
- 10:16Web
- 10:16Eubank.
- 10:18So
- 10:18Eubank,
- 10:20I
- 10:20believe
- 10:21it
- 10:21was
- 10:21when
- 10:21he
- 10:21was
- 10:21coaching
- 10:22the
- 10:22Colts,
- 10:23he.
- 10:26He
- 10:26had
- 10:27basically
- 10:28pulled
- 10:28out
- 10:29a
- 10:29play
- 10:30that
- 10:31he
- 10:31had,
- 10:34you
- 10:34know,
- 10:34he
- 10:34played
- 10:35designed
- 10:36like
- 10:36our
- 10:36current
- 10:37flea
- 10:38flicker.
- 10:40He
- 10:40kind
- 10:40of
- 10:40pulled
- 10:41that
- 10:41out
- 10:41of
- 10:41his,
- 10:42you
- 10:43know,
- 10:43an
- 10:43old
- 10:43high
- 10:43school
- 10:44playbook
- 10:45and
- 10:45implemented
- 10:46it
- 10:46at
- 10:47the
- 10:47NFL
- 10:47level.
- 10:48And
- 10:49he
- 10:49just
- 10:49mistakenly
- 10:50called
- 10:50it
- 10:50a
- 10:50flea
- 10:51flicker.
- 10:52And
- 10:54so
- 10:54then
- 10:55that
- 10:56kind
- 10:56of,
- 10:58you
- 10:58know,
- 10:58it
- 10:58got
- 10:59publicity.
- 10:59And
- 11:00so
- 11:01then
- 11:01that
- 11:02started
- 11:02becoming
- 11:04called
- 11:04the
- 11:04flea
- 11:04flicker.
- 11:05And
- 11:06the
- 11:06hook
- 11:06and
- 11:06lateral
- 11:07was,
- 11:08you
- 11:09know,
- 11:09I
- 11:09mean,
- 11:09the
- 11:10hook
- 11:10and
- 11:10lateral
- 11:10had
- 11:10been
- 11:11called
- 11:11that
- 11:11too.
- 11:12It
- 11:12was
- 11:12like
- 11:12it
- 11:13went
- 11:13by
- 11:13two
- 11:13names
- 11:14at
- 11:14the
- 11:14time.
- 11:14Right.
- 11:15And
- 11:16then
- 11:16flea
- 11:16flicker
- 11:17took
- 11:17over
- 11:17as
- 11:17the
- 11:18charge
- 11:18in
- 11:18the
- 11:18line
- 11:19tossed
- 11:19back
- 11:19to
- 11:19the
- 11:19quarterback
- 11:20play.
- 11:22Did
- 11:22not
- 11:22know
- 11:22that.
- 11:23And
- 11:23now
- 11:23the
- 11:23flea
- 11:24flicker.
- 11:24I
- 11:24know
- 11:25I
- 11:25saw
- 11:25at
- 11:25least
- 11:25twice
- 11:26last
- 11:26year,
- 11:26last
- 11:27weekend
- 11:27on
- 11:27NFL
- 11:28games,
- 11:29but
- 11:29the
- 11:30hook
- 11:30and
- 11:30lateral,
- 11:30you
- 11:31usually
- 11:31don't
- 11:31only
- 11:31see
- 11:32that
- 11:32maybe
- 11:32desperation
- 11:33time
- 11:33at
- 11:34the
- 11:34end
- 11:34of
- 11:34a
- 11:34game
- 11:34or
- 11:34something,
- 11:35a
- 11:35team
- 11:35has
- 11:35to
- 11:36score
- 11:36and,
- 11:36you
- 11:37know,
- 11:37too
- 11:37far
- 11:37to
- 11:38throw
- 11:38to
- 11:38the
- 11:38end
- 11:38zone.
- 11:39But,
- 11:39yeah,
- 11:40interesting
- 11:40stuff.
- 11:41Yeah,
- 11:41but
- 11:42here
- 11:42and
- 11:42there,
- 11:42I
- 11:42think
- 11:43the,
- 11:44you
- 11:44know,
- 11:45people,
- 11:45I
- 11:45think
- 11:45Boise
- 11:47use
- 11:47the
- 11:47hook
- 11:47and
- 11:47lateral
- 11:48one
- 11:48time
- 11:48and
- 11:48I
- 11:48mean,
- 11:48they
- 11:49use
- 11:49the
- 11:49Statue
- 11:50of
- 11:50Liberty
- 11:51in
- 11:51a
- 11:51game.
- 11:51But
- 11:52anyways,
- 11:52I
- 11:52mean,
- 11:53here
- 11:53and
- 11:53there
- 11:53you
- 11:53see
- 11:53it
- 11:54and
- 11:54it's.
- 11:57Yeah,
- 11:57it's
- 11:57kind
- 11:57of
- 11:57a
- 11:57cool
- 11:58play,
- 11:58actually.
- 11:59Yeah,
- 12:00lots
- 12:00of
- 12:00fun.
- 12:01Anytime
- 12:01there's
- 12:01some
- 12:02misdirection
- 12:02and
- 12:03putting
- 12:03the
- 12:03defense
- 12:04on
- 12:04their
- 12:04heels
- 12:05a
- 12:05little
- 12:05bit,
- 12:05that's
- 12:05always
- 12:05a
- 12:06cool
- 12:06thing
- 12:06to
- 12:06watch.
- 12:07Yeah.
- 12:07So,
- 12:08yeah,
- 12:08it's
- 12:08great
- 12:09that
- 12:09you
- 12:09get
- 12:09to
- 12:10reference,
- 12:10you
- 12:10know,
- 12:11some
- 12:11of
- 12:11these
- 12:11old
- 12:11plays
- 12:12and,
- 12:12you
- 12:12know,
- 12:13had.
- 12:13They
- 12:14had
- 12:14a
- 12:14different
- 12:14meaning.
- 12:15You
- 12:15know,
- 12:15100
- 12:15years
- 12:16ago
- 12:16or
- 12:16or
- 12:17so
- 12:17in
- 12:17football
- 12:17when.
- 12:18When
- 12:18they
- 12:18originally
- 12:19came
- 12:19out
- 12:19and
- 12:20renamed
- 12:20just
- 12:20like
- 12:20we
- 12:21just
- 12:21talked
- 12:21about
- 12:21Flea
- 12:21Flicker.
- 12:22But
- 12:22you
- 12:23do
- 12:23this
- 12:23all
- 12:23the
- 12:23time
- 12:24with
- 12:24your
- 12:24research
- 12:25and
- 12:25going
- 12:25back
- 12:25in
- 12:25the
- 12:26old
- 12:26newspapers
- 12:26and
- 12:27books
- 12:27and,
- 12:28you
- 12:28know,
- 12:28advertising
- 12:29pamphlets,
- 12:30but
- 12:30that
- 12:30you
- 12:31come
- 12:31up
- 12:31with
- 12:31these
- 12:31great
- 12:31tidbits
- 12:32that
- 12:32you
- 12:32come
- 12:32out
- 12:33with
- 12:33a
- 12:33few
- 12:33times
- 12:33a
- 12:33week.
- 12:33Maybe
- 12:34you
- 12:34could
- 12:34share
- 12:34with
- 12:34the
- 12:34listeners
- 12:35how
- 12:35they
- 12:35can
- 12:35enjoy
- 12:36some
- 12:36of
- 12:36these.
- 12:37Yeah,
- 12:37I
- 12:38mean,
- 12:38if
- 12:38you're
- 12:38into
- 12:38the
- 12:38vocabulary
- 12:39thing.
- 12:40My
- 12:40third
- 12:40book,
- 12:40Hut,
- 12:41Hut
- 12:41Hike,
- 12:42is
- 12:42exactly
- 12:42that.
- 12:42It
- 12:43kind
- 12:43of.
- 12:43And
- 12:43that's
- 12:44where
- 12:44I
- 12:44found
- 12:44out
- 12:44about
- 12:44the
- 12:44Flea
- 12:45Flicker
- 12:45deal
- 12:46or
- 12:47in
- 12:47the
- 12:47research
- 12:47for
- 12:47that.
- 12:48But
- 12:49otherwise,
- 12:49you
- 12:49know,
- 12:49if
- 12:49you're
- 12:50interested
- 12:50in
- 12:50football
- 12:50archaeology,
- 12:51just
- 12:51check
- 12:52out,
- 12:52you
- 12:52know,
- 12:52type
- 12:53it
- 12:53in.
- 12:53You'll
- 12:53find
- 12:54me.
- 12:55You
- 12:56know,
- 12:56I've
- 12:56got
- 12:56a
- 12:56substack
- 12:57site
- 12:58and
- 12:58so
- 12:58if
- 12:58you
- 12:58subscribe
- 12:59do
- 12:59to
- 13:00my
- 13:00site,
- 13:01you'll
- 13:02get
- 13:02an
- 13:02email
- 13:02every
- 13:03time
- 13:03I
- 13:03publish
- 13:03something.
- 13:03Otherwise
- 13:04you
- 13:04can
- 13:04bookmark
- 13:05it
- 13:05or
- 13:05you
- 13:05can
- 13:06follow
- 13:06me
- 13:06on
- 13:07substack,
- 13:08which
- 13:08will
- 13:09just
- 13:09kind
- 13:09of
- 13:09direct
- 13:09you
- 13:10to
- 13:10the
- 13:11and
- 13:11it'll
- 13:11kind
- 13:11of
- 13:12go
- 13:12into
- 13:12your
- 13:12little
- 13:12folder
- 13:14so
- 13:14you
- 13:14can
- 13:14read
- 13:14it
- 13:14whenever
- 13:15you
- 13:15want.
- 13:15Or
- 13:16follow
- 13:16me
- 13:16on
- 13:16Blue
- 13:16sky
- 13:18because
- 13:18I
- 13:18publish
- 13:18every.
- 13:19Every
- 13:19story
- 13:19on
- 13:19there
- 13:19as
- 13:20well.
- 13:21All
- 13:21right,
- 13:21Tim,
- 13:21well,
- 13:22we
- 13:22sure
- 13:22appreciate
- 13:22you
- 13:23coming
- 13:23on
- 13:23and
- 13:24sharing
- 13:24this
- 13:24with
- 13:24us
- 13:25each
- 13:25week,
- 13:25and
- 13:25we'd
- 13:25love
- 13:25to
- 13:26talk
- 13:26to
- 13:26you
- 13:26again
- 13:26about
- 13:26some
- 13:26more
- 13:27great
- 13:27football
- 13:27history.
- 13:27Next
- 13:28week
- 13:28there's
- 13:28a
- 13:28good
- 13:29chance
- 13:29you'll
- 13:29get
- 13:29to.
- 13:32That's
- 13:32all
- 13:32the
- 13:32football
- 13:33history
- 13:33we
- 13:33have
- 13:33today,
- 13:34folks.
- 13:34Join
- 13:34us
- 13:34back
- 13:35tomorrow
- 13:35for
- 13:35more
- 13:36of
- 13:36your
- 13:36football
- 13:37history.
- 13:39We
- 13:39invite
- 13:39you
- 13:39to
- 13:39check
- 13:40out
- 13:40our
- 13:40website,
- 13:41pigskindispatch.com
- 13:42not
- 13:43only
- 13:43to
- 13:43see
- 13:43the
- 13:44daily
- 13:44football
- 13:44history,
- 13:45but
- 13:45to
- 13:45experience
- 13:46positive
- 13:46football.
- 13:47With
- 13:47our
- 13:47many
- 13:47articles
- 13:48on
- 13:48the
- 13:48good
- 13:49people
- 13:49of
- 13:49the
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- 13:50well
- 13:50as
- 13:50our
- 13:51own
- 13:51football
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- 13:53pigskindispatch.com
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- 13:55also
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