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TSH Ep. 17 - Panther Prowl, QB Quarrels, Playoff Push · The Skol Hop

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All right. Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into
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another episode of the Skull Hop.
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I'm Evan. And I'm Austin.
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We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa.
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Yeah, I'm excited. We've got some good beer here
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too. We do.
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What are we drinking tonight? We've got the single speed
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prowl, and this is a beer that's featured in the Panther
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Collective. Yeah, I don't know if you can
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see it here. Maybe we can zoom in or
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something like that. Or maybe not.
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Maybe you just need to check out our TikTok Yeah, where we did
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our first taste of this beer. But Austin and I both went to
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the University of Northern Iowa and Cats.
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That's in Cedar Falls, IA and that's where Single Speed
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Brewery started. They've now expanded and they're
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now mostly based out of Waterloo, IA.
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But pretty cool that they've started this Panther collective,
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and as far as we know, some of the proceeds from the sales of
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this beer go back to student athletes.
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Yeah, I don't know exactly how it works, but they say that it
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supports or it helps support student athletes at the
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University of Northern Iowa. So that's pretty cool, and we're
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glad to help support fellow students at the University of
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Northern Iowa. If I could speak my goodness,
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what do you think of the actual beer?
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So it's it is pretty cool, but like, it's all moot point if
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it's a garbage beer. It's a it's a golden ale, right?
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That's what we read on the can. And I mean it's, I think you
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said it earlier, it's designed to be like a tailgating beer.
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Yeah, it's a game day beer. So it's 4.2% and it's, it's
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good. I mean, I would have this on
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game day and I'd have a few probably.
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Yeah, in a really good way. It reminds me of your your
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average Coors Light, Bush light, stuff like that.
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It's like a step up. It's like the craft brewery step
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up. Yeah, like if if single Speed
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were to to say, which it seems like they did, let's make a
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tailgate beer something you can just crush and responsibly still
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enjoy the game and get home safe.
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But yeah, 4.2 percenters you can you can tailgate pretty hard
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with these things and maybe maybe we'll we'll have to do
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that. Yeah, and the the added benefit
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here is it's purple and gold. Oh yeah, the can looks awesome.
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Check out the the TikTok. Check out the beer itself.
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They they can it. It reminds me of the feeling I
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got when right before the football players came out of
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that garage door like. Some good memories.
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And the can just reminds me of that.
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For sure, yeah. It's cool.
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One other thing I wanted to point out before we really get
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into the meat and potatoes of our episode is I'm wearing yeah,
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your gift that you got me last week.
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So thanks again for. That, yeah, it looks really
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good. Yeah, it looks really good on
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you there. My my first ever adult jersey,
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Vikings jersey. And it's Adam Thielen, of course
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so. And like I said when when you
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opened it, it's a it's a shade big, but I think jerseys are
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supposed to be a little big. Yeah, I think it looks good.
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And we're supporting A lifelong Viking.
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I don't care how many other teams Adam Thielen plays for,
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he's a Viking. He will have his name in the
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Ring of Honor just off the story alone.
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He's. Gonna come back and sign one of
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those one day contracts. Yeah, maybe retire.
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Maybe he's gonna like, force his way out of this terrible
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Panthers team and he'll say something like, I don't care.
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I just want to come back home and he'll sign a deal that is
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very cat friendly and you know, not disrespectful to him, but
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you know, he's he's made a lot of money in his career.
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Maybe he just would want to come back.
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And hey, Anthony Barr did that. I mean, he was sitting on his
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couch a few weeks ago and the Vikings picked him up and
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brought him back and so. Although no disrespect to
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Anthony Barr, I feel like Adam Thielen, even if he were to talk
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his way out of the Panthers team, 'cause I think he signed
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like a three-year deal, which Thielen's character tells us
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he's not gonna like, you know, pout and cry and force his way
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off that team. But if he were, he wouldn't have
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to take any deal the Vikings would potentially give him.
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There's teams that would pay him requisite money.
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Oh, for sure, 'cause he's still good.
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I mean, yeah, he's getting up there in football age, but he's
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still producing. He's one of the best Panthers
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right now. Yeah, so it would.
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We can dream. As a Vikings fans, we can dream.
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Hopefully, hopefully and at at very least, like I said, maybe
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he comes back on one of those one day contracts and retires as
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a Viking. Yep.
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When it's all said and done, I think he will retire a Viking,
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which is kind of cool. Well, it's been a quiet week as
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a Vikings fan. It's been the bye week.
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But the biggest news, I don't know if we want to start with
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this, but the the biggest news. Do we have to?
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Are we gonna fight? Is that what we're doing now?
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Is that what you want? We might have to.
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I mean, we were texting earlier about this and you, like, seemed
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a little on edge. All right, So what Evan's
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talking about is Coach O'Connell in his press conference today,
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announced that Josh Dobbs will be your Minnesota Vikings
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starting quarterback against the Raiders this week.
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And we have differing opinions on that.
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And that's OK We get to have differing opinions.
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Part of why sports are fun, we can debate till the cows come
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home, but obviously I'm right and you're wrong and let's just
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talk about why I'm right and you're wrong.
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All right. And you start.
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All right. I I think we have seen the best
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of what Josh Dobbs can give us. And then I think we've seen the
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real Josh Dobbs. I said it I think last week
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Dobbs was amazing against Atlanta.
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Once he got started, once he after the couple of turnovers
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and after the safety, then it was really fun for like the
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second-half of that game. It was awesome.
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He was the pasture, not. He was the cover photo of the
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NFL. It was, it was amazing.
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And then the next week, it was the next weekend against the
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Saints, right? He came out in the first half.
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My goodness, he had like 220 passing yards.
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He's looking amazing. It was awesome.
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So much fun. And then he literally had like
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less than 40 passing yards in the second-half.
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The second-half of the Saints game all the way up until now, I
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think, is unfortunately the true Josh Dobbs.
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We've seen a couple of flash plays since then, but really
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since that second-half started of the Saints game.
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So that's a half and then a full game against the Broncos and
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then a full game against the Bears.
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It hasn't been great. It hasn't looked good.
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He's looked scared at times. He's just tossed the ball away
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at times and I think we can expect to see more of that.
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So I would play devil's advocate here a little bit.
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I don't think I mentioned this on air.
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I think I texted you some stats, and I think I texted you the
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wrong stats. But I went and looked.
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This is Josh Dobbs. In four games with the Vikings
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as a passer, he's completed 85 of his 128 passes for a 66.4
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completion percentage. Which isn't bad.
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Not bad, it's average. Yeah, that's nothing to complain
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about. 832 yards in four games. So an average of 200 games.
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Well, 200 yards a game. 3 1/2 games, give or take, because of
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that Atlanta game, but yeah. 5 touchdowns, 5 interceptions as a
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passer. So even touchdown to turnover
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ratio there, touchdown to interception ratio I should say
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as a runner. 25 rushing attempts for 142 yards, 3 touchdowns
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added to his touchdown total. So 8 touchdowns total.
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And he has six fumbles, so he is responsible for 8 touchdowns and
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11 turnovers. So if we compare that to Kirk
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Cousins, in his first four games of the season, Kirk Cousins lost
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3 fumbles and threw 4 interceptions for a total of 7
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turnovers and 11 touchdowns. So slightly better, but still a
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lot of turnovers from Kirk Cousins.
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In the beginning, which we complained about as a Vikings
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team overall. That's why they were losing.
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And they, yeah, they went one and.
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Four. And then they turned it around.
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And they did. And I'm not, I'm not
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discrediting anything that Kirk Cousins did after that one and
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four start. We complained a lot about it and
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then he turned it around and he was playing at arguably an MVP
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level before he got hurt. And I've even seen, I think I
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saw a tweet this week that compared his projected stats if
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he were to finish the season healthy to Dak Prescott's
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projected season ending. And Dak's kind of in the mix for
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the MVP right now, and had Kirk stayed healthy and continued to
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play and continued to play at the level that he was, we might
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be talking about Kirk Cousins as the front runner for the MVP
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conversation right now. Yeah, and we were right before
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he went down an injury. It was kind of crazy.
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Like, yeah, sure, Die Hard Viking sense would be like, yo,
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Kirk Cousins MVP, but like he was building his case.
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He sure was. He sure was.
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But to bring it back to the the relevant topic, you're comparing
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Dobbs and his first few games with the Vikings this year, and
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Cousins and his first few against or with the Vikings this
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year. And my rebuttal to that is that
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the first few were horrible. What were we 1:00 and 4:00 to
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start off and complaining about the turnovers and complaining
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about coaching decisions? We weren't complaining about
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Cousins because honestly, if I remember right, Cousins was
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playing lights out and then the first like two wins were.
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The only two were the first two games that he didn't look great
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in. That's Cousins.
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He didn't look awesome and it was kind of like, what the heck,
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Cousins has an off day and then that's why the Vikings win.
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Like, what's going on here? I don't know.
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I I need to see what Dobbs looks like after the bye week and if
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they've been able to switch things up and change it around
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because I've said it before, too.
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I'm a fan of this team. I want to like this team.
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I'm not going to crap on the team just because they do
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something that I necessarily wouldn't do.
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So I want them to do good. I want Josh Dobbs to be amazing.
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Do I think he's going to be Jalen Hurts right off the bat?
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No. That would be unreasonable.
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Could I see a scenario where a bye week and more study and more
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preparation really does Dobbs well and he starts to utilize
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everything? Yeah, that could absolutely
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happen. I just usually, especially in
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the NFL, when guys show you who they are.
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I mean, that's not, that's not changing.
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Like I can't think of any other example.
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And there's a reason he's been on who knows how many teams,
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even in the last calendar year. I mean, he's, he's been around
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and he's been in a lot of different systems and he hasn't
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really gotten a lot of opportunity other than with a
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really bad Arizona Cardinals team.
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And he started, what, eight games for them and they won one
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of those games. So, like, I don't know.
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He just hasn't had the opportunity.
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He hasn't had an offense like the Vikings have.
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He hasn't had weapons to throw to.
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He's got JJ coming back. Yeah, that's huge.
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That's big. But he's had Addison, he's had
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Hawkinson, he's had Powell who's come on.
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I mean, I I don't know. I I'm interested to see.
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And to that point, I did say a few weeks ago, yeah, Dobbs has.
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Yeah, he's been around. He's had a bunch of, you know,
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different stops in the NFL. But he's never really had an
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opportunity. I kind of said what you're
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saying right now in defense of him.
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And yeah, a few weeks ago me was like, yeah, he's, he's doing
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something with this opportunity, but the more he goes out, I just
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I and I'm not an expert, I don't ever want to make it seem like I
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know better than the coaches. Like obviously they know better
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than me and they have forgotten more in the last five minutes
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than I'll ever know. Just a couple of dudes, right?
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Just a couple of dudes. I just, I don't feel good about
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it. When when he was announced as a
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starter, I tweeted out and said like.
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You did. You did.
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What are the other options, though?
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I mean, you have Nick Mullins and you have Jaren Hall.
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Those are your other two options.
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And at this point in the season, you have playoff hopes still at
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6:00 and 6:00. The Vikings still control their
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own destiny to I I think for the division.
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I might be wrong on that. I know they do for the playoffs.
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I think for the division, I think there's an outside chance
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that they could still win the division.
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I think it would take winning out and Detroit losing out or
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something very close to that. And we've actually got some
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information for a little bit later on on that that point.
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But you're right, they're still in the playoff fight.
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And I think maybe the quarterback decision would be a
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little bit different if you were not 'cause then.
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Then you're really thinking, OK, now we're scouting for next
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year. If if their hopes were dead, you
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know now you're scouting for next year.
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Do we see what Jaren Hall has, or do we really focus on what
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quarterbacks are coming out of the draft or?
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I mean, right now, my choice. And again, I'm not the expert.
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I'm not the one being paid to make the decisions.
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I would have chosen Nick Mullins.
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He has some previous NFL starting experience.
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Yes, he's bounced around a little bit.
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He's a former Raider. The team that the Vikings are
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going to face this coming week. He he's not perfect.
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He had a a slightly exciting run, if you remember a few years
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ago as the the step in starter for the Niners.
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But even that, it's not like they went on to win the Super
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Bowl. It wasn't a Brock Purdy run, you
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know, But my whole thing with him is his.
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His play style was the most like Kirk Cousins, which, that play
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style is what this offense was built around.
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He's been in the system for now since 2:00 for two full
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offseasons and now almost two full seasons.
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So in theory he he knows the system inside and out.
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I just, and my gut told me that that made the most sense was to
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go with Nick Mullins. You said a few minutes ago, Koc
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kind of said that the best quarterback will probably be the
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one who plays to Justin Jefferson's skill set the best.
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And maybe the coaches think that that right there is Josh Dobbs.
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I didn't say that, you said. That well you said J JS coming
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back. Sure, sure.
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Which is huge. So maybe having the NF LS Best
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Player come back will make your quarterback a little bit better.
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I don't know. Well, in the case that I would
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make against Nick Mullins, starting is Nick Mullins is most
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like Kirk. And in the last four games
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they've had to adapt this offense to be more of a running
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quarterback style of offense. And so I think throwing another
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curveball at your offensive line, I mean, they've already
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dealt with a curveball. I mean, they went from having
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Kirk Cousins pocket passer, pretty much knowing that he's
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going to drop back and release every time.
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And we, I think we talked about it last week.
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You know, there there's a big difference with Dobbs dropping
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back and then taking off and then your guys at the front
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don't know where you are and that creates all sorts of
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confusion. And there's there's got to be
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some trust built up. There's got to be some
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communication involved. I think with Dobbs having a few
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weeks of that now, you know, maybe maybe against the the
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Broncos and the Bears, some of those things slipped a little
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bit. Maybe it was simply just the
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unfamiliarity with Dobbs and the Falcons and the Saints game
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where it was just like, no, you guys do it, you've always been
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doing and I'll work around you. And maybe those last two games
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some of that just kind of eroded.
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And I don't know, with with the bye week, I think they've had
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more time to figure it out. And switching to Nick Mullins
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might involve some like whiplash with especially your offensive
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line and maybe your skilled players too on offense.
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Like, oh, OK, well, we did this with Kirk and then we made these
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changes with Dobbs and now we have to make these changes back
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to Mullins that that might be a lot, especially for a team
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that's really trying to focus. I mean, we have to talk about
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this soon. They have to win these next two
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games. I mean, these next two games are
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essentially playoff games if we don't win them.
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Yeah, the playoffs have kind of started for the Vikings.
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Yes, absolutely. Yeah.
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So I you're making valid points and as just a dude and not a
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coach and not someone who's had, you know, experience in that
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type of an atmosphere, everything you said makes sense
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to me and I can see it and get behind it.
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It's just it's frustrating because it's not the decision I
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would have made and who knows, maybe three weeks from now you
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and me are sitting here saying thank the Lord they didn't do
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what Austin would have done because who knows how bad that
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could have been. And here we are at three and O
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in the last three weeks. You never know, like anything
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can happen. Let's hope that's the case.
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I hope they win every game. I'm not somebody that's going to
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hate my team, my favorite team, just because they don't do
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something that I would have done.
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It's just it feels frustrating. And I'll say this and if this
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whole Josh Dobbs experiment tanks, if he comes out and they
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play him and they keep going with him, and if he looks
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terrible and has more turnovers and looks even more scared, that
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just puts a big stinker on all of our opinions of the coaching
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staff of the GM 'cause I don't know who's I I assume the GM,
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you know, Quasi is fully letting KOC make those decisions.
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That's just an assumption of mine.
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But man, if even if you know he, Dobbs has a terrible first half
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and they bench him and they go with Nick Mullins, I mean, or
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whoever they go with, if they bench him, I'm thinking, man,
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KOC is really questioning everything and I don't know how
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I feel about him as a coach. That being said, if Dobbs goes
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out and he lights it up for the next.
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Two weeks and looks amazing. Obviously we're all Pat and KOC
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on the back. It's like greatest coach ever.
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Coach of the year. Who cares what happens?
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Play offs, whatever. He made the best decision ever.
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I just This is such a pivotal point in the Vikings season.
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It it can't be understated how important simply choosing a
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quarterback is for these next few games.
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And I mean, we could be sitting here next week talking about a
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new quarterback. I mean, Dobbs could go out and
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lay an egg, come out in the first half and get replaced by
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Mullins or Hall. And then we're sitting back here
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next week on the podcast talking about, Oh my gosh, Dobbs, he's
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terrible. Mullins came in.
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I don't even know if the Vikings are going to make the playoffs
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anymore. I mean, it's it's a huge
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decision. Or he could go out, like you
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said, and light it up, play great, and, you know, lead the
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cavalry into the promised land which would be.
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Awesome. And I've said before to every
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player on every team has a leash.
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It just determine it. You know it's different on how
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long that leash is. Tom Brady's leash right now on
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every team has got to be 10 miles long.
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He could call any team, be like, hey, what you doing?
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Maybe the Chiefs would say no. But like most teams, especially
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with all the QB injuries would be like, all right, come on Tom.
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But Josh Dobbs, his leash has got to be like razor thin.
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And to that point, that I was just saying earlier, if they do
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pull him, if his leash does get too short and the coaches pull
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him, that just makes the coaches look bad for making the decision
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they did. And if he looks terrible and
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they don't pull him, coaches still look bad Because now we're
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just saying they're just, you know, patting their ego because
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they must have made the right decision.
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They just got a double, triple, quadruple down on that.
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It's all hypothetical and I'm not being fair to any of the
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coaches or anything right now at all.
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It's just it's frustrating 'cause I didn't get my way.
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And well, and it just, it sucks that we're in this position to
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begin with, going back all the way to kind of where this
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conversation started. We had an MVP level of play
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coming out of Kirk Cousins and he was looking awesome and he
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was silencing the doubters and he was he was playing well even
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when the rest of the team wasn't.
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And it was looking like, man, if we can get this stuff figured
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out, man, we could really, we could do something here.
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And then we went on that five game win streak and it was like,
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Oh my gosh. And so yeah, this is, it's been
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this motif all season long of quarterback, quarterback,
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quarterback. And I don't think that's going
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away. And I think we're going to be
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talking about it all the way up until the Vikings season ends.
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Whenever that is, Yeah. Dustin Baker tweeted something
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out a handful of weeks ago. Like right when they first I
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think it was after the Atlantic Game.
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He said something to the tune of Man, I can't wait for all these
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Dobbs Mullins Hall arguments on Twitter like we had back in the
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Bollinger, Kelly Holcomb, Tarveris Jackson, you know, all
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that era. Like and darn it, he's he's
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exactly right. Here we are.
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Here we are. But I think we can both agree
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we're fans, we're rooting for the team.
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Even if you and I would have made different decisions at
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quarterback, we got to out roll with it and either we're both
23:47
happy next week or we're both mad next week.
23:50
And if it's because of Dobbs, I'm just going to be a little
23:53
bit more smug about that and you're just going to be a little
23:56
bit more sad that the guy that. And it's not like you've been
24:00
saying Dobbs, Dobbs, Dobbs the whole time.
24:02
I'm not a a huge cheerleader of his, but I I I do think he's the
24:06
right choice just given the fact that he has two wins.
24:11
Yes, he has two losses, but he also has two wins under his belt
24:14
and I think we can basically call him the starter of the
24:17
Falcons game 'cause he played 90% of that game.
24:20
Well, the Falcons game is all the more impressive because he
24:24
he had been on the team. Thrust into action with little
24:28
to no introduction to any of his teammates.
24:31
I don't think he got to Minnesota until Wednesday before
24:34
that game, so couple of practices, didn't know guys
24:38
names like that was the whole talker.
24:39
It was amazing. Just a little like shameless
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24:48
I'm a little bummed that that one didn't get as many views.
24:51
That was funny. It's like our second least
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viewed video. And it's really funny, It's.
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I think that video is a higher quality video than our video
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That was luck if you like watching low quality video of
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Well, no, not even that. Oh yeah, yeah, I I did take it
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recording my TV, but of a pretty gruesome injury.
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If you like watching the I'm the the sick freak that likes
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25:30
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25:44
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25:46
I don't understand how that yeah, you followed up and like,
25:49
I mean he's hurt but he's not broken.
25:52
Yeah, I guess so. I don't know.
25:54
There's got to be some injury. I'm.
25:56
I wouldn't imagine he's playing this week.
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We've been doing some beer reviews.
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We've both been doing a beer advent calendar, which has been
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It's just that my wife loved me enough to make me a thoughtful,
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heartfelt beer advent calendar. And I think my wife loves me
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And I've had to make my own We. Should work on that.
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Maybe I'll just make my own from here on out.
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videos you've seen they all open with me opening up that that
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That is cool. Yeah.
27:00
Do you keep it in the fridge? That that thing lives in my
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open the I find out the beer right after work and then I do
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the beer video right after dinner.
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So when I open it up, I figure it out, record that, and then I
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record the beer, the beer video, so.
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So there's a little bit of production magic.
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Oh yeah. It's not quality.
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It's not straight from box to glass.
27:35
I I see how you are. Yeah.
27:36
But check it out TikTok. We're having a lot of fun with
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spend 2 hours on or a video we spend 8 seconds on, I don't
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know. I think we we have some at least
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somewhat entertaining videos on there.
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I like them. Yeah, so if you like the
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podcast, you like our vibe, you'll like the videos.
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Had some fun with Kirk Cousins. It looks like he's been on a
27:57
little bit of a vacation here with his family and and good for
28:00
him. So yeah, it's by a week, he.
28:02
Deserves it. But we we found some videos of
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him rolling on a little scooter at the.
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You caught him riding dirty there.
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Yeah, he was riding dirty for sure.
28:13
We we caught him scoring a touchdown in the ocean.
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Yeah. So, yeah, those were fun.
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28:52
We're not even done yet. Oh, no, we've we've still got to
28:54
talk about the the playoffs here, 'cause we we spent a lot
28:59
of time talking about the quarterback and how important
29:01
the quarterback decision is when it comes to this final five game
29:07
push towards the playoffs. But where are we sitting right
29:12
now in terms of our playoff probability?
29:16
Playoff probability? Oh, I don't.
29:19
I didn't even write that one down for at the moment.
29:22
What are we at like 48% or something like that?
29:24
Yeah, it's right here. Oh, you got it.
29:26
It says right now 42%, and this is Dustin Baker who tweeted this
29:31
out. Currently this was December 4th,
29:34
so a few days ago, but nothing's changed. 42% chance to make the
29:38
playoffs. OK, well that kind of blows
29:42
because just a couple of weeks ago it was like 75% or something
29:46
like that. But when you go, oh, and two
29:49
against the Broncos and the Bears, like, good grief, Well,
29:53
losing a divisional game hurts. Of course, it might convince the
29:58
Bears to keep their quarterback for a little bit longer, so
30:01
that's a plus, right? Like.
30:03
Yeah, their quarterback who's more of a running back.
30:05
Yeah, they're RB1, all right. But yeah, so Dustin Baker.
30:11
He did kind of say last weekend. The bye weeks, NFL matchups
30:17
pretty much all went against what the Vikings would have
30:20
hoped for. It was a bad week if you were a
30:24
Vikings fan. Even though the Vikings didn't
30:26
play, they didn't turn the ball over, which is a good thing,
30:29
'cause they couldn't. They weren't playing, but
30:32
everything else that could go wrong pretty much did.
30:36
Yep, he said. Well, he pointed out, the Rams
30:39
won, the Falcons won. The Buccaneers won.
30:43
The Lions won. And then ultimately, I don't
30:47
even. This is so annoying.
30:48
The Packers beat the Chiefs. It is annoying.
30:52
Now people are all move. Jordan love.
30:55
He's the next Favre Rogers love like.
30:59
And if that freaking happens, I'm gonna just be a golf fan.
31:04
I I like. This is so dumb.
31:06
And we'll be Timberwolves fans. They're playing well this year.
31:08
Now you jinxed it, EV, now you jinxed.
31:11
It. Anthony Edwards got injured and
31:14
that's a pre pre happening of your current jinx.
31:18
You're you're at fault. I hope you feel good.
31:20
I didn't even know Anthony Edwards.
31:22
Got in. It was a few weeks ago and I
31:23
think he's already starting to play, but I will go on record.
31:27
I will be a die hard Timberwolves fan if they're good
31:32
and in the playoffs. Other than that, I just can't.
31:36
Any season longer than 18 games I just can't put my emotions
31:39
into. If the Wild played 20 games, I'd
31:43
be the biggest hockey fan in the world.
31:46
I just, every time I sit down and watch a hockey game, I'm on
31:50
edge the entire time. Don't even try to talk to me,
31:54
'cause I'm so focused. And then like, it's 80 some
31:58
games, right? Like that's.
32:01
I couldn't put my heart through that.
32:03
So yeah, I mean, if the Vikings win their next five games, you
32:07
know, the final, final five games of the season, they would
32:10
be the division winners. Because in that scenario, the
32:15
Lions have lost two games. I guess they wouldn't
32:18
automatically be division winners.
32:19
They would need the Lions to lose at least one other game.
32:22
It wouldn't. It would make the divisional
32:24
race very, very interesting. Yeah, so like, we know if the
32:29
Vikings keep winning and the Lions lose 1 before their first
32:33
game against the Vikings. We know.
32:35
OK, full destiny. All on the Vikings I I feel like
32:40
if the Lions cause, what are they?
32:42
What do we just say they're nine and three?
32:43
Nine and three Vikings are six and six.
32:47
So if the if the Lions went out, they will only have three
32:50
losses. If the Vikings win out, they
32:52
will have 6 losses like that. That's something that can't
32:56
change. Although no, I just.
32:58
I'm talking in circles again. If the Vikings win out, the
33:00
Lions have at least five losses because the Vikings Lions play
33:05
twice. All of that to say, the next two
33:10
games for the Vikings are crucial, and our friend Dustin
33:15
Baker has laid it out very nicely for us.
33:21
If. Yeah, I think he uses like ESPN
33:23
probabilities or whatever for these stats you're about to say.
33:26
But yeah, it's. Just nice to have them all here
33:29
like he's done the hard work for us so that we don't have to dig
33:32
through these. So I'm going to start on the
33:34
positive end if the Vikings beat the Raiders and beat the
33:39
Bengals, which are both Rd. games by the way.
33:42
The Vikings playoff probability is at 72%.
33:46
Which is crazy. Yeah, that's almost a given.
33:48
Yep, if they only beat the Raiders, that's.
33:55
That's not including We're not looking ahead to Cincinnati yet.
33:59
That's just in these next two games.
34:00
If they just beat the Raiders, 55%.
34:04
If they beat the Raiders but lose to the Bengals, it's a 40%
34:09
chance. Or if they lose to the Raiders
34:13
and beat the Bengals. So basically, if they go one and
34:15
one in the next two games, their playoff chances dip to 40%
34:20
because neither of those games are conference games or
34:23
division. Which is a bit of a silver
34:25
lining. Yes, this is a crucial point.
34:27
You have to win these next two games, but 40% is still
34:32
workable. Yeah, all hope is not lost if
34:35
these next two games are losses, but it it becomes pretty bad if,
34:42
well, if these next. Two games are both losses.
34:46
What does it say? 10 percent?
34:48
10%. 10%, that's tough. You cannot lose both of those
34:52
games. No, and that's why.
34:55
One or the other, you just can't lose bowl.
34:58
And that's why the conversation we had earlier about the
35:01
quarterback is so important, because it's going to affect
35:05
what happens in these next two games, whether we like it or
35:08
not. It's going to affect that, so.
35:11
Well, even losing one of those games is a 30% swing in your
35:16
whatever ESPN uses to track playoff probability.
35:21
Like, that's huge. Like, that's crazy.
35:26
I just, yeah, you you hit the nail on the head.
35:30
This quarterback decision right now is the most important thing
35:36
that has happened all season. I mean, everything that has
35:41
happened has LED up to this decision.
35:44
And you can't, you can't miss on this decision.
35:48
I'm I'd be happy to be wrong and to eat my words and say, you
35:52
know what, I was wrong about my initial thoughts on or my
35:55
thoughts right now on Dobbs. But man, that's that's part of
36:00
the reason I'm so upset about the decision is, 'cause I know
36:04
how important it is and I know what I would do.
36:08
Well, I think another thing that we didn't really talk about
36:10
earlier is how thin of a margin those last two games truly were,
36:16
a total of three points. Against it's.
36:19
And it's not even like those two games were against the Chiefs
36:22
and the Eagles like you lost to. And yeah, the Broncos are kind
36:28
of surging right now. Ever since their their game,
36:32
where they allowed seventy points to the Dolphins, they've
36:35
they've looked better and better.
36:36
That'll sure wake you up. So that feels a little less
36:42
crappy. But to lose against the Bears,
36:46
who are not good this year and who I mean Before the Vikings
36:53
loss, you're talking like they may fire their coach.
36:56
Before that Vikings loss, you're talking the GM and the coach
36:59
haven't beat an NFC North opponent like then.
37:03
That sucks because forever. Now, whether it's the next few
37:07
games that they're the coach and GM, or if they last and they're
37:10
the coach and GM for years to come, the Vikings are the first
37:14
NFC North team to lose against them.
37:16
That that sucks, but like to lose against that team when they
37:21
didn't even score a touchdown. That's disappointing.
37:25
That that sucks. And that that right there is why
37:28
I'm upset about the quarterback decision.
37:32
And it doesn't. It doesn't help his case that he
37:35
threw 4 interceptions in that game.
37:36
Four. It's hard to throw 4.
37:39
You talk about bad quarterbacks. If you're bad enough to throw 4
37:43
interceptions, that's also a coaching decision because that
37:46
means they left you in after the third interception and the 2nd
37:50
interception. Like, it's not like you know Tom
37:54
Brady. If he throws 1/3 interception,
37:56
you're not taking him out. You're not worried about that.
37:59
It's Tom Brady. He's fine.
38:00
He'll figure it out. It's gonna.
38:01
Be up by 50 and you can afford to.
38:03
Yeah, if you're on. If your new quarterback who's
38:11
been with you less than a month or whatever, those four
38:15
interceptions, like I, we've already kind of come back on
38:21
this and I've kind of simmered down, but I'm just getting
38:23
worked up again. Now that's coaching.
38:25
That is coaching. That's as much coaching as a
38:28
poor decision to not go forward on 4th and one and at some
38:32
points in the game to leave a guy in after four interceptions
38:35
is ridiculous. It's insane.
38:39
Well, you could throw Ryan Wright in at quarterback and it
38:43
would still take some of the pressure off 'cause he hasn't
38:46
thrown 4 interception like, OK, I'm.
38:49
I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Skullhoppers.
38:51
Maybe. Maybe he would be a better at
38:53
quarterback than he's been punting this year.
38:55
He knows. And it's been masked because,
38:57
you know, not focused on him and you can kind of forget about a
39:00
bad punt 2 seconds later 'cause then you're focused on the
39:03
defense, but. Well, let's look ahead to this
39:05
Raiders game. We've talked about the
39:07
quarterback decision. We've talked about what's at
39:10
stake here, these, especially these next few games and how big
39:13
of a swing it will be if they win both as opposed to losing
39:16
both on the road against the Raiders and the Bengals.
39:22
But the Raiders are in front of us right now, and in a couple of
39:26
days the boys will be getting on a plane and heading out to
39:30
Vegas. What are?
39:31
What are they needing to do to walk away with a victory?
39:36
So I'll be honest, I'm not as knowledgeable on the Raiders,
39:40
especially the current two day Raiders.
39:44
Paid a lot of attention to them. I know there's been some turmoil
39:46
there. I know they have benched
39:48
Garoppolo, which they're also on a quarterback change.
39:53
It's been a few weeks. But still, it's not the guy they
39:56
initially started with. Fired their coach.
39:57
Fired their coach. Did they fire their GM, too?
39:59
I don't. I don't know either way.
40:01
Couldn't I? I think it was just their coach,
40:05
but there's a lot of unknowns with that team, even if it's
40:09
been a few weeks since a lot of those changes, which can be
40:12
scary when you, I mean, just like Josh Dobbs against Atlanta,
40:15
like you just don't know. So it's hard to play against
40:17
him. It's away in Vegas.
40:21
I don't know that I I'm more focused on the Vikings.
40:26
So I think the defense, which I don't know how much more you can
40:30
do than only allow 12 points in a game like they did against the
40:33
Bears. But the defense just has to keep
40:35
doing what they're doing. It's working.
40:37
Maybe it looks a little ugly at times, but ultimately they've
40:40
been doing well. 20 points or 21 points they allowed against the
40:44
Broncos, which you don't love, but that's not 50 and 12 points
40:49
against the Bears. And even after that, which I'm
40:52
saying those point totals are pretty decent again for the
40:54
defense. Even after that, you're owing 2.
40:58
So the Bears or the Bears, the Vikings defense just has to keep
41:03
keep up with what they're doing and.
41:07
They're healthy, I think, which is a good thing too.
41:09
For the most part. I mean, you're still without
41:11
Jordan Hicks, which who knows, he may not be playing again this
41:15
year. He, I don't know anything about
41:16
that. But yeah, you're right.
41:18
The. The.
41:19
Caleb Evans I think might be coming back this week.
41:22
Yeah, I meant to write down the injury report from today, but.
41:26
It was pretty clean, which you would expect after the bye week.
41:29
You'd expect most of the guys to be coming back if they were
41:33
hurt. Yeah, I if I remember right,
41:35
everybody who was listed on the injury report was either limited
41:39
or full participants. There were no, did not
41:41
participate. So everyone not on injured
41:44
reserve was at least participating in some capacity
41:48
in practice, which is good coming off the bye week, you
41:50
like to see that. So yeah, the defenses, at least
41:56
what they were at the for the Bears game, which they only
41:59
allowed twelve points. Usually your defense only allows
42:01
12 points and no touchdowns. You win that game, but we're
42:04
moving on. What about the offense?
42:07
The offense quarterback. We've been talking about it all
42:11
day, quarterback. But most importantly, most
42:14
importantly, just got to stop turning the darn ball over.
42:19
I mean, you can't have 4 interceptions.
42:21
You just can't. You can't win a game with four
42:24
interceptions. I'm sure somebody could look it
42:27
up and tell us how many times a team has won after throwing 4
42:30
interceptions. You can't do that.
42:32
And if if Dobbs throws 3 interceptions, he better not see
42:36
that field. Again, I don't care who it is.
42:38
If you throw 3 interceptions, you should be done.
42:42
So no turnovers and you need to actually score.
42:45
And if you don't turn the ball over, you got a better chance of
42:47
scoring. So that's the offense.
42:52
Also, this is a pivotal game for KOC.
42:56
We've been, I've been saying it for the last handful of weeks.
42:59
His game management, the actual playing, the chess that is
43:03
football. As a coach, he needs to step it
43:06
up. He needs to figure out clock
43:08
management, strategy. He needs to play, play better.
43:13
He needs to be a better coach. He's been exposed a little bit.
43:16
I I think he's he's been able to kind of hide behind his
43:19
playmakers. Justin Jefferson, Jordan
43:22
Addison, even Dobbs for those couple of weeks.
43:25
He's he's been able to kind of hide behind those big plays.
43:28
But yeah, his his game management and the ability to
43:31
strategically call the game to win the game, not just avoid
43:37
losing the game has been on full display.
43:39
I think of the Titans coach Mike Vrabel and how like there's been
43:43
a few times he's, like instructed his team to, like get
43:48
a penalty on purpose because it ended up working the clock
43:52
better so that they, you know, it actually helped their team
43:56
better. Or, you know, savvy, just
43:58
ingenious plays that at the time aren't technically against the
44:01
rules. We've never seen a savvy move
44:04
like that. About the savviest move we've
44:07
seen from Koc is the couple of times he's like done a fake
44:11
punt, which I don't know even how much We can attribute that,
44:16
attribute that to coach O'Connell.
44:18
It just he's he's been good and ultimately he's won more games
44:22
and he's lost. But you're right he's been
44:25
exposed a little bit. He's he needs to step it up on
44:29
that, which is super easy for me to say as a just a dude in Iowa,
44:33
but. And I think we can cut him a a
44:35
little bit of slack. I don't know that he's the sole
44:38
reason we've lost games. It's not like it's come down to,
44:42
you know, the last little bit and it's it's been only him and
44:46
everything else has gone well. I mean the the Bears game, Dobbs
44:50
through 4 picks, like you said, you can't win a game when you
44:53
throw 4 interceptions. So yeah, Koc didn't call the
44:58
greatest game and maybe didn't put the team in the best
45:01
position down the stretch, but he's only a part of the problem.
45:05
He is not the sole problem. And and no loss ever comes down
45:10
to one play or one player, one person.
45:12
But yeah, the IT. He's a really great motivator.
45:16
He just needs to also be a way better game manager.
45:24
And maybe Dobbs being a better quarterback now that he's been
45:28
there a little bit longer will help, but I think having a
45:31
competent MVP level quarterback like Kirk Cousins hid a lot of
45:35
that and that's why you won a lot more of those one score
45:38
games and you lost. Well, and and you, you saw Kirk
45:43
calling different plays at the line.
45:45
I mean based on what he sees, you know there's two or three
45:49
plays that he's got when he steps up and he can kill the
45:53
first one and go on to the second one based on what he
45:55
sees. And you know, sometimes that has
45:58
to, you know, probably irk the coach a little bit.
46:02
Like, Nah, I really wanted this play to to go and you called
46:06
something different and it didn't work out and whatever.
46:08
But, you know, I don't know. At the end of the day, a lot of
46:13
things have to improve. I mean, when you're a 500
46:17
football team, when you're 6 and six and the playoffs are still
46:21
right there, you got to you gotta shore up some of those
46:26
weaknesses if you wanna make that push.
46:28
If you don't, then you're gonna be sitting at home in January
46:31
and February and that's just the reality of it, so.
46:34
Exactly. Big couple of games for the
46:38
Vikings. Huge The biggest two of the
46:40
season so far. Yep, and I I like what Harrison
46:43
Phillips said. I caught it on one of those
46:46
field access videos and I think I may have tweeted it out on my
46:49
personal account in response to something that we posted on our
46:53
school hop account. But Harrison Phillips said in a
46:57
in a little pregame huddle with his teammates.
47:00
He said this game's the most important one and you know why,
47:03
'cause it's the next one. And I like that mentality and I
47:08
I think he's been a great leader and a great addition to the
47:10
team. He's the Walter Payton Man of
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the Year nominee for my team, so.
47:15
And well deserving too. It's not like I think the big
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thing of that award is his his advocacy for those with special
47:23
needs. And that has been something he's
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been doing for years and years and years.
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It's not like this random thing that came out just so he can
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kind of try to win that Walter Payton Man of the Year award.
47:33
Not. I mean he'd be doing that
47:35
without awards. He he was doing that without
47:37
awards, which is pretty awesome. I think he even he liked your
47:41
tweet. Yeah.
47:42
Yeah. So thanks for that.
47:44
We appreciate that. And if you're out there
47:45
listening, Harrison? Yeah.
47:47
Hey, let's let's do it again. Harrison Phillips would you like
47:50
to come on the the the podcast we we gladly take?
47:54
Gladly take you. We are totally open to guests on
47:58
our show. Yeah, we love it.
48:00
It'd be a lot of fun. It'd be awesome.
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Well, we're getting down to the bottom of this prowl from single
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speed here. What do you think?
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Way better. Than your Coors Light or Bush
48:12
Light or Michelob Ultra. Sorry about your advent
48:18
calendar, you just. Spoiled like the next three that
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I was gonna do. Come on.
48:24
Yeah, it's it's fantastic. It's not.
48:27
I mean, I think it revels in the fact that it's nothing world
48:30
beating. It's nothing that you haven't
48:33
tasted before, but it's just really good at what it is.
48:36
It's good beer. It's for good 'cause it it's
48:41
good I I will gladly have more. And it comes in a purple and
48:44
gold can. Yeah, that's a that's a
48:46
displayable can right there. Might just have to stay there.
48:49
I mean, I I'm not mad about it. I'm not either.
48:52
And even if I were, it's your house like.
48:56
We'll keep it there, OK? We'll keep it there, all right.
48:58
It's a part of the set now. I like it.
49:01
All right, well, we're gonna have a lot to talk about.
49:03
I feel like on the next episode because we had a lot to talk
49:07
about tonight and the Vikings are going to have played a game
49:10
between now and then. Yeah.
49:12
And I I hope I get to sit here and say I was wrong.
49:15
I was just terribly wrong about the quarterback situation.
49:20
I hope that's the case. Well, despite my glass being
49:24
almost empty, I still view it as half full and you probably view
49:28
yours. As half empty.
49:30
Mostly empty. Yeah, I'm the best.
49:32
That just defines our relationship and that's OK.
49:37
But good beer, good conversation.
49:39
We will for sure be doing it again next week.
49:42
Absolutely. So if our listeners have any
49:44
opinions on what we've said or maybe didn't say, how can they?
49:48
How can they reach out to us? Well, we're pretty much
49:51
everywhere that you can find us on the Internet.
49:53
We do have a website www.wedotheskullhop.com, so you
49:58
can find everything that we do there, links to every single
50:03
outlet that we are on every single platform.
50:05
Even down to every beer we've featured, which is pretty cool.
50:09
Yeah, so if you go to the podcast episode page, you can go
50:13
into each episode and you can see which beer we featured on
50:18
each episode. So if you're curious as to all
50:21
of the different beers that we featured, that's where you can
50:24
find that in addition to the website, I mean, we're all over
50:29
the place. YouTube, Spotify, Apple
50:31
Podcasts, that's where you can listen to us.
50:34
Of course, you're probably already listening on one of
50:38
those platforms or something similar.
50:40
But if you're looking to connect with us in other ways, social
50:43
media, we've talked a lot about TikTok on this episode.
50:45
We've been having fun with that. You've also been interacting
50:49
with a lot of people on Twitter. You're kind of our primary point
50:52
person that way. So we're on Facebook.
50:56
We're we just started a Reddit even.
50:58
Yeah, we got a Reddit thread. Sub sub Reddit.
51:00
However you say it, we're there. We're, we're out there.
51:03
Yeah, I mean if you if you wanna find us.
51:06
Yeah, just search the skull hop. You'll find us.
51:08
We're there. Yep, we're there.
51:10
And we're having a lot of fun with this.
51:12
It's been awesome. And it's.
51:15
I mean, even before we stuck a few microphones in front of us,
51:18
it was. Oh yeah, beer and Vikings.
51:20
Hanging out, having a beer and talking about the Vikings.
51:23
So yeah, we're glad that you're joining us.
51:25
That's why we started this. And also if you wanna kinda
51:29
interact with us in real time, we are planning on live
51:33
streaming during this upcoming Vikings Raiders game this
51:37
Sunday. It's like a what, 3/23/15
51:39
3:00-ish game. Late late window, not night
51:44
game, but late window game on Sunday.
51:46
It's in that game of the week time block.
51:50
That's not the necessary prime time game, but yeah.
51:53
Yeah, we'll be We'll be on YouTube live streaming, so come
51:56
out and join us. We'd love to interact with you
51:59
in the chat, and if you get tired of listening to the
52:02
commentators on the TV broadcast, just sync your TV up
52:06
with our live stream and you can listen to us talk about what's
52:10
happening in the game. Yeah, we've got a few people to
52:12
the talking heads. Hopefully we see JK and Joey,
52:16
Bag of Donuts and the couple of regulars we've seen in there
52:19
before too. So, yeah, for sure.
52:22
Well, I'm looking forward to that for sure.
52:24
Looking forward to some more good beer and yeah, yeah.
52:27
All right, man. It's been a good, good episode.
52:30
It has been till next time. It's cool.
52:32
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