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HIST 230: The Myth of the Dirty Heels · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson, I'm Brad Ziegler.
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How you doing buddy? Buddy, Thursday Night, Football
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all around playoff, baseball, all around.
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Command Center, engaged engaged, gin and tonic engaged.
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Seeing my wide receiver have a fantasy for hours here.
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You have a solid first half and Alan Robinson about five and a
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half points, get anybody playing tonight, I've got one Smith's.
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Oh okay, he's doing well so far. He's got like four points so
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hard to find a player. That's that's a solid first
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time. In fact, if I can get 8, For my
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defensive player I'm happy, I always go some type of inside
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linebacker just because tackle volume is usually consistent.
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I'm not trying to get like 20 points from that position
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because it's so anybody that's getting 20 points is probably
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also you know having very up-and-down games.
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Going to give you a goose egg every now and then.
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So I go with the guys that are going to consistently give me 7
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to 10 points and if you know if they get a pick or they get a
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Fumble return or something like that for a touchdown.
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All the better. Yeah, folks.
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What Brian's discussing is something we playing in a league
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together, this is your eighth run with the other and about
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third fourth year in me and Brian decided to we've got to do
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some different stuff. We got to make this league fun,
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so we had this genius idea individual defensive players.
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Some people hate it, some people love it but it you have to
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actually know more about football and do more studying
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because to bronze Point usually linebackers or the guys, you
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want their more than steady Eddie's.
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Now you can go get a defensive end like I think Nick was my
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head Nick. Both the last year I played in
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quite a few times or play them one time and it was like the
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game yet, three sacks, six tackles, who tackles for losses.
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So his numbers were Like 16 and a half and it's just like that's
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that's not fair. Yeah.
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But then you know there's one of those games where you get 0 64
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tackles maybe one tackle for loss and yeah, it's like Five
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Points. So it's one of those interesting
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pieces because every year it's like what do you take this guy
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and if there's somebody out there in a certain round that
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you know, tackles 175 has 175, tackles of gain or year?
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You're like, I need that guy. It's like Like having Rook
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exactly. Exactly.
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I think Brooke last year, if you like like do everything that he
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did, he would have averaged like 10 points a game maybe 11 points
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again. Yeah, what's a good name in?
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Probably the couple games where he had, you know, some sacks or
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some forced fumbles or anything like that.
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He would have been around the 15 to 20 point range on a good on a
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good game. So I've Loved.
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All right, we're going to get into it.
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But before we get into Know, The Enemy real quick hokey, Headline
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wide receiver out of Tennessee trade Curry who committed back
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in July. D commits, what they weird
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midnight post of my by officially open for really like
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movement is 100% open to all teams.
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Yeah, remember when he first committed it was like an initial
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light kind of a shock, you know, we you saw him in on the offered
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list but you never thought much of And it was kind of cool.
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This is good. Yeah, big-bodied receiver kind
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of really awkward that he D commits.
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After the first two games were bird, literally throwing things
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that he could do his first day on campus.
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What would any tape on this brown or just, you know, it is
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what it is doing. If you weren't sitting to know,
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I'd feel a whole lot worse about this, but I think with
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everything that we've been dealing with the last, Last few
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weeks with guys being potentially out for games and
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things like that. This is like, not even denting
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the radar and it was a guy that probably of all the ones on our
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commit list. We probably felt the least
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secure about. Oh yeah.
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Despite even some of the the word coming down that he know he
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wasn't, you know, listening to other teens and things like
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that. You know, there was a situation
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with what was going on with him. He's old high school going to
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this new high school and there was just a whole lot of
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uncertainty already around the commitment so you know if one
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was going to D commit it was probably going to be Curry so
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it's happened we'll address it and go from there man on Capitol
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Hill, Let's Do It. Let's Go.
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All right so let's start with the breakdown here.
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We're going to start on the offensive side of the ball like
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review most weeks and I want to kind of dive into Brown.
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Well I think we I mean you feel is what they're going to have to
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do too and I think they're going to have to pass the ball to win
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with Sam how hello Young quarterback.
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So I just went around. I know, you look at some tapes.
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I've Deep dive some stats. So I want to take a look at some
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stats first thing, we're going to look into some of your
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findings, and this is kind of what I'm finding out, all right.
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So so far through the first two games, they're ranking 24 and
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pass efficiency at 140 4.30, so, You know, top third not legally,
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but top third still respectable average, shouldn't 260 yards, a
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game. So again, solid number on 4:30
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attempts is slightly up, was 8.6 last year's 8.7 this year.
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So small tenth of a point now, where he's really, you know,
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going to the next level is completion percentage last year,
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for the total year. Sixty one point four so far this
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year, 65%. So, you know, you're looking at
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Or write or percent increase which, you know, people don't
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say, well, that's not that much but over time, you know?
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Yeah, that's one or two passes, a game.
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And when you're hitting one or two extra passes a game between,
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that's probably two or three, extra first downs of game.
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Exactly. And that's one of those things
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where you kind of take last year, a couple extra passes made
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in that six overtime, Thriller. It might have went their way,
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not our way smell. Something that does show some
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regression. Mm.
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So last year, he was one of the best in the nation is touchdown.
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Interception ratio was five. Point four, two one.
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That's damn good. I would take that for our
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quarterbacks in a heartbeat this year.
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So far, though, through two games, small sample size, three
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touchdowns, three interceptions. And he's pretty much halfway to
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where he was with his interception total last year.
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Now, sort of looking at the two teams they played so far, their
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past defense rankings, They're not bad but they're not great
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Syracuse is ranked 30th PCS ranked 25th.
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This is out of roughly seventy two teams who have played a
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game, not counting you Houston, you finally got on the field.
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Good for you tonight as you started going through the tape
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of this year. Just a couple games we have.
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What are we seeing about saying, how this year?
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I mean he's about what we saw last year, I think.
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He's a little more poised, a little more accurate with the
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ball this year, but he has taken those couple of extra Chances
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with it like that. You've noticed there we've got
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only 3 to 3 in terms of touchdown interception.
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But I mean, he's really good in the pot can.
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But he's also a guy that's going to move the pocket by sometimes
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with his legs. He'll Scamper for a first down
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here there. But what he's really looking to
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do, when he gets outside the pocket, he's looking to find
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receivers that are Creaking open on Scramble drill and, you know,
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getting some separation from the, their Defenders, once a
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route kind of breaks down there. So that's what he likes to do
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with that. He's gotten some really big
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plays once. He got outside the pocket,
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resetting his feet and throwing down field to plays.
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In particular, one was a touchdown toss to Javonte
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Williams, got outside the pocket right.
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At the line of scrimmage sets his feet delivers, a strike as
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Williams kind of breaks free from his man for A touchdown,
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have a similar one, didn't go for a touchdown, but went for a
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big game to Boca Rallo. So, I mean, he likes to do that
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type of stuff. And speaking of those running
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backs in the in the scramble drill, both Carter and Williams,
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Michael Carter, and Javonte Williams are going to be pretty
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dangerous in the passing game. They're both guys that can hurt
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you. A Javonte Williams is the guy
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that they're going to design kind of more of the route tree
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type things for To get him involved with passing down the
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field. But Michael Carter is the guy
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that's going to get a lot of the check downs and but he's a guy
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that can break some tackles make you miss and then make a big
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play out of it. So what have you what have you
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seen in the stats? From those guys, what you're
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seeing on tape is absolutely telling in the statistics
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because you talk about Williams, you more designed more getting
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out on the route tree. More big play potential.
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He's only got three receptions. But he's averaging 26 yard.
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Perception. You know?
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That's, that's big. That's a big play.
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That is one of those game Breakers where you're sitting at
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the 30, something like that happen.
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The fields flipped in Harvey, but to your point with quarter
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hoarder is second on the team in receptions, he's got seven so
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you talk about the check down clearly how he feels comfortable
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throwing to him out of the backfield, not as many yards,
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you know not as many as explosive plays but sometimes
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when your guy can get to that portion, All these reads, you're
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not taking losses so it's good. Now something I've noticed here,
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Braun, I think you're probably going to get a little up in your
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next segment. They have allowed six sacks in
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two games. That is the bottom half.
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No. So the seventy two teams.
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It's on the bottom half of allowed so far and it's 47.
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Yards loss on those sacks. So, what that's telling me at
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least the way I can kind of read it.
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I just about a year. Yd essentially that looks like
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potential coverage sex, probably not many scrambling.
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If you're averaging eight, my assumption would be.
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If he's running backwards, there's going to be some bigger
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numbers in there, not shorter numbers, which makes me feel
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good that if we can kind of create a good look on the back,
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end front for, we can get to Sam.
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Now, something that's been a little shocking, and when I read
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this, I kind of had a reread it again for the second time.
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So, last, Year. Poff.
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Graded, Sam how as the best. Password over 20 yards are yards
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with a clean pocket the belt. Okay.
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So far this year, not great. Bob no completions over 20 yards
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in two games. 04:10. So we see sacks, correlational
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Stacks eight yards, that's probably about the five to seven
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step drop. You know out of Center at a
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shotgun similar, right? Yep.
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Listen to this and I don't know if it's just him getting smarter
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as a pastor or them unable to take less risk.
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The are yards per attempt last year.
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There were nine point seven damn near 10 yards per attempt.
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Through the air this year, that's down to seven point four.
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So, two and a half yards lost, you know, I don't know, you
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know, as you're looking at the front if you're seeing it but
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you know, we're going to the receivers here in a second.
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Maybe maybe you've seen some stuff there.
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Now the one thing they are they're good in the Red Zone.
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7475 touchdowns two field goals for rushing, touchdowns only one
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passing touchdown. So Bryan, I give you those
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numbers, especially, let's talk. Let's look at Really, those
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downfield numbers. And let's talk about those
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weapons. And some things change
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potentially there. So a couple of things have
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happened, and as you notice that, there's not a lot of down
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the feel attacking with the, with the pass game this year.
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And one thing I'm noticing is that we've kind of neutralized
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as Newsome a lot in this, this new season and I think he has
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what he receptions we 431 and he had a bout last year.
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Yeah, so I'll be that's a very, very slow start for him.
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He hasn't been able to kind of take the Top off the defense,
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like he was able to do last year looks like a lot of teams are
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kind of playing cover three variations, just trying to make
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sure that there's not a lot of space for those guys to run some
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of those deep routes. Now, they Ami Brown has been
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able to take advantage of that underneath the cover 3 shell.
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He's done a lot of good things in the passing game, he's been
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able to get kind of behind the linebackers and make some noise
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when he was in, man. Coverage a couple times.
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I saw him kind of get free of his man, get down the field a
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little bit, but as you were saying they're not able to hit
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some of those down feel things. And I think that that could come
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with time but it seems like the teams have adjusted to what UNC
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was doing with that downfield game last year and have taken
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some of that away this year which is something we're going
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to need to do in this game if we're going to have some
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success, you know, I like what brown has been able to do.
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I saw even, I know, We're running more Zone coverage this
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year. I saw him running kind of
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through zones and making some plays there with guys that are
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not moving at full speed in the zone there.
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So he's going to be a guy that we're going to have to tackle
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once he gets the ball in his hands.
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But going back to halman, we talked about you know what he
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does in the pocket and how he had a.
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Some of those sacks seems like a coverage sex, he sometimes tries
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to do too much. He's got a little bit of that,
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you know. Bit like Ben Roethlisberger, but
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he kind of has that mentality where he's going to stand in the
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pocket as long as he can to try to make a play and sometimes
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that that comes back to bite him if he doesn't recognize that
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something is there and he can't get out of the pocket.
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He's not somebody that's going to throw it away.
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You know, safely to avoid taking the Lost.
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He's going to either take the sack or Chuck it in the
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direction of a guy that can make a play and a couple times that's
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calls the sack and a couple of times that's caused him to throw
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an interception. Yeah.
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So what we're going to need to do is get pressure on him, make
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him throw it before, he's ready and make him.
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Try to take some of those extra risk with the football, make him
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uncomfortable but we also need to keep him in the damn pocket
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because he is he's been dangerous.
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When he's gotten outside the pocket can set his feet and kind
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of throwing that criminal drill starts.
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The third guy in there getting their passing game to watch
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though and this is a guy that's been hit a couple times.
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I know I mentioned him earlier is Beau Corrales.
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He's They're big body guys, 63 205 guy that you kind of run in
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the slots enough to seem that type of guy.
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They haven't hit him and he anything deep yet, but he's
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definitely a guy that can kind of work between the linebackers
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and make some plays and move the sticks for you.
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Let's talk real quick about their offensive line.
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Before we pivoted in terms, of password, before we pivot into
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the Run game, an offensive line is average and past Pro, not
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great, not bad. Like I said because of the The
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the way that how will hold onto the football in the pocket,
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you're going to occasionally get a few sacks against them.
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Their little susceptible, would you bring pressure?
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So I think I think you're going to see some of those possible
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delay blitzes that we saw in in the game against NC State
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coming. So look for that buddy.
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Tell me some about their their Rush game.
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What are the stats look like? That's look like they're
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balanced offense. 168 yards, a game.
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You know, with 12 points for Dimension, Davonte Williams and
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Michael Carter-Williams is averaging 4.6 of carry Carter
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8.7. So definitely a big plate
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potential with Michael Carter. I can remember one of those big
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runs against Syracuse Williams has all the TVs.
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Now, before you jump into that, need you to just just two
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things. I want you to know about.
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Okay? Corrales is picking up Das has
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slack. He's tied with Corridor seven,
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receptions, 82, you Yards and Diana me.
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Although his stat line on looks good.
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Brian at 154 10. Receptions, his reception number
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is down from. 20.3 goes back again.
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We're correlating it, they're having to drive the field.
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Yeah. Ours, that Russian game goes,
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Braun. You know, Williams, Carter and
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got a good one-two, punch. And what are you seeing?
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You know, we're seeing the can't go down field.
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So, I You sleep, can't Warfield. You gotta depend a little bit
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more on the Run. Yeah, I mean we're looking at
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another, you know, it's a spread Zone run scheme.
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We've seen it really kind of out the gate with NC State little
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less so last week with Duke but they're still kind of the same
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philosophy. So, you know, look for a more
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balanced team than than Duke and NC State were.
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I know, we're looking at kind of different angles there where
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Duke was throwing the ball more, whereas NC State was trying to
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run the ball. A lot more especially early on
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before we kind of got that big lead on them.
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So this is a balanced team. They're going to be running and
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they can and passing the ball and they can do both with pretty
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good efficiency and what Carter does so well, is break tackles.
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I've seen it on the film a lot, man.
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He gets the ball in space. He's going to probably make the
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first guy Miss. So we got to be able to flow to
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the ball. And we got to be able to make
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tackles He is also very dangerous when he gets to the
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second level. So again we can't let one broken
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tackle turn into a 25-yard gain. We got to make sure that were
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flown to the football and making that stop and you know I'll give
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a little kudos to the offensive on there.
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Pretty good offensive line in terms of run blocking, good on
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the combo blocks and they do a good job of leading and kicking
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with their HVAC sin motion. So you'll see an HVAC going
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motion and either kick out the Guy or lead up for, for an
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outside zone or something like that.
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So they do a good job there, man.
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And you know, when we look at what we need to do to kind of
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exploit, and this point this defense in just because often,
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sorry, not not, let them rack up the points.
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I think the big thing we need to do is play the next play.
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Every time I saw him film, they got a chunk play, but then they
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would make a mistake. Or they would have a - play or,
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you know, something would happen.
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So we need to just keep playing the next play, not let one play
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result in a touchdown, you know, but three plays earlier.
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So that's what I think we need to do and I really took to have
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success. I want to see how kept in the
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pocket as much as possible. Where are you mentioned about
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the pot? Please, and I've given the stats
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of what they're doing in the Red Zone, but I mean against Boston
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College and Syracuse 31:26. So they're averaging under 30
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points. A game against, I think, what?
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We're considering, probably one of the worst teams in the ACC
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and BC, you know, BC maybe middle part of the pack the Gene
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and all that. One thing that they've kind of
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done good and I feel like you just mentioned it with the HVAC
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and I don't know if that's Waltz and they don't use the tight
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end. He's got to receptions all year.
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So clearly the way you mention HX, it sounds like they're
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blocking, they're not going to be any sort of threat in the
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pass game, but they actually are putting on third down.
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They're ranked 21st, they're converting, 48 percent of their
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third down to me, you talk about their getting the big plays, and
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then they can't quite capitalizing.
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Keep Minam going, they can't, but they're still driving the
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field. They're having to grind.
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Yep. Like sometimes last year, you
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watch a couple their games, it was like three, four plays
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touchdown and they kind of hit you.
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So they're doing it differently this year.
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And the question is, can they keep that up?
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Can they keep that up as they start?
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And I'll go ahead and say it, taking a step up in competition.
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Yeah, and I think we, I think, We find an answer this weekend
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on that. All right, Brian, let's jump to
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the defense and I'm going to just say it straight up.
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I cannot sugarcoat this. As I take my glasses off and
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hold them, I can't sugarcoat as of this very moment, North
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Carolina leads the nation. In rushing, the what?
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Yeah, they are giving up 54 yards per game at about two
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yards per rush, so that's pretty, that's craziness.
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No. Touchdowns averaging eight and a
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half tackles for loss, which is good for 16th about four and a
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half for the loss of those tackles, you know.
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And so it's a solid amount. I know I comparatively gets
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Virginia Tech. We're, we're about six per game
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at about four point eight. So sounds like what they're
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doing is able to penetrate the run.
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Now, Brian is you start looking on tape and you start breaking
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down this defense? What's making them, why so much
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success? So far?
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You feel especially against the run.
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So the thing I do really well, is they flow well to the
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football, whether it's in the passing game, or in the running
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game, they get to the football, they generally make good
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tackles, so they're pretty sound on that part.
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They, their base defense is a 245 which we don't see very
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often. So, we're talking about Two down
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interior guys, to kind of hybrid Edge.
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I mean, they're kind of kind of defensive ends kind of edge
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rushers. They're very similar to what you
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would see in an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense,
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then you've got to inside backers and then you've got the
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kind of a nickel set in the secondary there, two corners,
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two, safeties, and then you got a nickel.
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So they use the nickel, and the, the strong safety.
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And a lot of different ways. A lot of times they'll bring
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that guy right up on the line of scrimmage almost as like an
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extra outside linebacker. You call it a hybrid bear I
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don't really like that. I mean it's still a 245 they
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just got a guy walked up you know there's been a lot of Buzz
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out there on the you know the hybrid bear.
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They were running against BC. It's not really that but they
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what they do I do well as though they mix up their blitzes and
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disguise their coverage as well, well, in that because they've
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got Really only two guys that are guaranteed to be going after
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the the passer on a passing down.
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So they do a good job of mixing in zone.
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Blitz has disguising. Coverages going with man
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sometimes across the board they even gave a look with with
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Hunter long from BC where they would occasionally have man
25:08
responsibilities on him because he was kind of go to guy and
25:10
then they would be Zone everywhere else.
25:14
So they like to mix up their coverages pretty Well, but I
25:19
mean, if I'm being honest, I like the rush defense but I
25:24
don't like them as best Rush defense in the land.
25:30
As I was writing my notes out, I made that because as I was
25:36
looking at the statistics, I'm looking at a right that I'm
25:38
like, that's really good. All right, so when you, when we
25:40
see things like that, it's immediately.
25:42
I've got to go to the, their opponents and their games,
25:45
alright? And we'll start with Syracuse
25:47
bra. Let's let's look let's look at
25:49
these two teams they played. All right so Syracuse ran the
25:53
ball. 35 times against North Carolina for only 68 yards.
25:57
Now, 15 of those roaches were by Tommy DeVito, the quarterback.
26:03
So right there, kind of tells you the running backs and I know
26:08
to be do can scramble we've seen him but it's he's not Braxton.
26:12
He's not some of these other running the quarterbacks where
26:15
you fear for your life. If They get the ball in their
26:18
hands. So then I said, well, let's go
26:20
to pit puts another very good run defense.
26:25
They ran the ball 34 times against it, for only 51 yards.
26:30
So one less time, 17 left yards, DeVito ran at once again, 14
26:34
times, then they finally had their Breakout game Prime.
26:40
Georgia Tech the game that you prevented you from going
26:44
undefeated a few weeks ago about 41 times.
26:50
This week, Tommy DeVito only random ball four times.
26:53
Now, see, you're notif. You they finally broke 100
26:57
yards. 163, I do think less of the focus on the quarterback
27:02
running. The ball was probably a big
27:03
help, but even with that game Run, you know, less than four
27:08
yards per carry for that so that they were 3.97, that's not good.
27:14
We know our standard here. Let's look at BC real quick
27:17
before you jump back in here because I know you've probably
27:19
got some things you'd like to talk about.
27:21
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
27:23
BC ran the ball 19 times for 20 yards, that's less than two of
27:26
carry, BC around the ball 41 times against Judah, at 84
27:30
yards. That's also less right at two
27:33
yards a carry and then they ran the ball 27 times against Texas
27:40
state for 87 yards. So their best effort all year
27:45
against the juggernauts of Duke and text State as been for 3.2
27:50
yards. LeBron Me.
27:54
Okay, what you just said, perfectly sums it up.
27:57
Good Rush defense. They're not number one of the
27:59
lane. I just think they've gotten
28:01
lucky and face just to absolutely wretched running
28:04
offenses. What do you think?
28:07
Yeah, I definitely think they're ranking is indicative of too
28:11
bad, rushing, offenses, and not being the best in the land.
28:14
Now, they do some good things to kind of confuse the offensive
28:18
line with the, with their alignments and the way they
28:21
bring the safety in the nickel. Kind of into the box to play the
28:25
run. But as you said you know
28:28
opponents like BC haven't rushed for 100 yards in a single game
28:31
and Syracuse only just. So, even with these guys playing
28:37
other teams, they're not doing well.
28:39
You know, you and C being the better version of Duke is not
28:44
necessarily something, I would beat my chest about after we put
28:47
up three hundred yards against them.
28:50
I tell you what. Actually scares me more Is kind
28:54
of the way they Blitz, especially with serrat going on
28:57
some of those, a bag blitzes or kind of, they move him or all
28:59
around the formation. Really, but they'll, they'll
29:04
throw him into a gap and he can, he can kind of bring the Ruckus
29:08
a little bit. So they do delayed blitzes, and
29:13
pretty much always bring pressure on third down, even if
29:16
they end up kind of dropping some of the other guys and kind
29:19
of a Zone Blitz, type type move there.
29:22
And they bring pressure from all levels of the defense.
29:25
I've seen linebackers coming. I've seen safeties, I've seen
29:29
the nickel. I've seen even the corner, so
29:32
they'll bring guys from everywhere and drop guys, pretty
29:36
much, it'll drop anybody except for those those two down
29:38
linemen. So it's interesting to watch,
29:41
but on the back end, you know, they run a lot of mix of Zone
29:47
and man and then like I said, their front gives them ability
29:51
to Zone. And what's a lot so they can
29:53
really mix up how they run their coverages.
29:56
As I said earlier, they were running some guys, even on the
30:00
inside specifically spotting a man, head upward and then ran
30:03
Zone across the board everywhere else.
30:05
So they'll mix things up on us and short yardage.
30:10
They didn't, you know, I would think in a short yardage
30:12
scenario that they can serve, they might, you know, bring on a
30:15
nose and and run the nickel off, but they didn't do that.
30:19
What they ended up doing is sliding one of those.
30:22
The guy that was playing the one technique interior out to a
30:26
three technique and then putting both of those inside linebackers
30:29
in the a gap. Well, and then they would roll
30:32
the strong safety into the box. I'm like the picture that like
30:37
button. Essentially, if you were in like
30:39
an inside Zone type play and your tackles neutralize, the two
30:44
tackles on the outside, you're talking about are nasty interior
30:48
getting up into 225 pound lineman.
30:52
Or linebackers. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
30:55
That's exactly what you're talking about, Buddy.
30:58
They're essentially hoping that they're going to get enough
30:59
penetration at the snap where it's going to disrupt things and
31:04
kind of funnel everything outside and let the safety, and
31:07
the nickel kind of clean things up, it works sometimes and
31:12
sometimes it didn't work, but that but that's what they like
31:15
to go through and short yardage. They did it consistently against
31:17
BC and like third one, and fourth, and one sometimes,
31:20
third, and two situations. So that'll be something to watch
31:24
out for. And so they would, like I said,
31:27
they were aligned the, the down guys into three techniques.
31:31
And then, they would either run a five with the outside edge
31:35
rusher. They would, they would line up
31:37
in a five technique and if it was to the tight inside, it
31:39
would be a six techniques, will be head up on the tight end.
31:43
Oh, that's interesting things. We have to look for.
31:46
If they do some of those things moving those interior, lineman
31:48
further out and stuff like that. I want to wrap a couple Oil
31:52
before we jump on to our next segment here on the rap, just a
31:55
couple more stats with you Bryan, just so I want you again
31:58
to get your feel, tell me what you think of these, all right,
32:02
and a couple of my own personal thoughts.
32:04
The first part down, there actually are pretty good at
32:06
third down 36.1%, but for number 23, so far in the season.
32:11
Now, third down conversions, guess who's the worst team of
32:16
the country at third down conversions?
32:19
Who yet Syracuse. So that definitely bumps that
32:24
stat. When you played the worst team
32:25
in the Country BC slightly worse than average at 42.
32:29
So again, overall, it's one of those things we look at it.
32:33
You look at 23 and say, that's good.
32:35
You look at where their opponents are converting.
32:36
It's like, okay, well, they've helped you.
32:41
The other thing is this is the one that I think, if you tell
32:45
me, we wind up with a plus number in this category, Feel
32:49
good. A turnover margin is minus 3.
32:52
They've only have one interception off your, we've
32:55
already mentioned how threw three interceptions.
32:57
They also had a fumble. So there, they won two games,
33:02
not win the turnover battle. We know how that goes last week
33:06
when you are the better of two teams, clearly, North Carolina,
33:09
more Talent across the board than Syracuse or BC and it
33:14
happened. Yep.
33:16
But I'm going to go back to some mustard, a couple weeks.
33:19
To go in this podcast. I watched a ton of that Syracuse
33:23
game again was sloppy. It was ugly.
33:27
Only reason they won that game is because they wore Syracuse
33:30
down for the win a couple times. They bent but didn't break
33:34
inside the Red Zone where they had a kick field goals versus
33:38
Syracuse punching it in and then Syracuse goes for it on fourth
33:40
down one time. You see, Syracuse out there in
33:45
the numbers. They're putting up that
33:47
shouldn't have been like that, that should have been similar to
33:50
what we did to NC State. You put your foot on them.
33:53
You smash them, you make them think about it the entire time a
33:56
locker. They didn't do that in the been
33:58
seeing, well, BC the week before.
34:01
Had a walk off at Texas State. But field, gold Danny lost that
34:05
one but its weak against you and see under a minute left or right
34:11
at a minute left, they have it. That's potentially tie the game
34:14
with a two-point conversion. Now they turn the ball over.
34:17
That does not count as one of Carolina's, you know, turnovers
34:21
game because it's an on-time down as bright educated me on
34:24
about 5-10 minutes ago, they were that close to losing to be
34:30
see who we know maybe by 20 with a +5 turnover.
34:38
They hung on against Texas state.
34:40
So when I sit here and look at it, it's like I feel like the
34:43
number 18 in the country as numerous pundits have said, who
34:48
they don't feel like the number 18, we country now they
34:52
definitely feel like the number 18 of the country as you pointed
34:55
out the they've got some some deficiencies that they're
34:58
working through. I think they really have not
35:02
Been able to do a good job with. Overcoming some of the mistakes
35:09
that they're making. So, you know, they'll have a
35:12
couple good, please make a Miss may have a negative play and all
35:16
of a sudden they're putting or you have a cover turnover or,
35:19
you know, whatever it may be, they're letting those negative
35:23
plays really negatively impact, the amount of points that can
35:25
put up on a team and on defense, you know, they're not forcing
35:30
the issue with turnovers as you said.
35:33
And until they start doing those two things, I think they're
35:36
going to struggle and I think we got some really We good chances
35:39
to take advantage of that on Saturday, man.
35:43
Absolutely, man. Our Brown.
35:44
Well, let's jump into it real quick here, because obviously,
35:48
we've now late everybody, the format of what Carolina looks
35:51
like your analysis, the statistics and let's go through
35:56
the three, pivotal players on each side of the ball for the
35:59
Hokies and Brian when we got together to earlier this week, I
36:04
was discussing this one. I me and you did not flinch.
36:09
Who's the most important group this week for the Hokies
36:13
quarterback? It's not a question.
36:18
Regardless of the start, whether it be Braxton burn mics, or as
36:22
coach Fuente said, don't take talk, live on Tuesday.
36:25
Hendon is full go because this is my opinion.
36:31
We balance Carolina has enough Talent If I think they're
36:37
rushing numbers are overinflated but I don't think we're going to
36:40
hit 300 against. No I think we're going to hit
36:43
300 against them and I think what they're going to do is kind
36:46
of keep some of those loaded boxes with those strong safeties
36:49
and Nichols walked into the box at the edge kind of pressing
36:52
things inside and essentially forcing us to run between the
36:57
tackles and throw the ball to get first downs.
37:01
So I think that's what they're going to try to do and we're
37:04
going to need a quarterback that can make some of those
37:06
intermediate. Rose.
37:07
And that's not what we've been seeing in the first two games.
37:09
We've seen mostly down the field success, and a little bit in the
37:15
short passing game with some of the screens, but we haven't seen
37:18
a whole lot of intermediate game and until that picks up until we
37:22
put some pressure on those guys, you know, between the 10 and 20
37:26
yard down the field range, I think, you know, we might have a
37:30
long day if we can't do that. So hopefully, you know, my hope
37:34
is that him and hookers ready to go ready to play.
37:36
Say he's the man because I feel a whole lot more comfortable
37:41
with the intermediate passing game with them, pulling the
37:43
trigger. Yeah, me too.
37:45
Yeah. And that's why we put it on
37:47
because I do feel that and then if he, then he's going to be
37:50
able to call them. If they come 67 on the line load
37:53
in the Box, take away the run. You looking at some short passes
37:56
and stuff like that. To really open it up, Brian.
37:59
I gotta give this one away earlier, but I, but we still got
38:02
to talk about it. If you want to put two
38:06
undersized linebackers on the a gaps against letís move on
38:13
Kaufman and either Doug mr. O'Brien Hudson you go, right
38:18
ahead. We've discussed it.
38:19
Brian, we feel the interior part of our offensive line is very
38:23
important in this game. And yeah, we believe that pop,
38:27
they that that interior line in kind of open some of that the
38:30
creases there for the inside Zone.
38:32
I think we're gonna have a lot of success.
38:35
The way they kind of move around Sarat in the way they kind of
38:38
mix up their line calls. I think they're going to try to
38:43
try to press the middle and then and then funnel it outside.
38:45
But if we can get some a crease in the middle there and can
38:49
consistently get four to five yards on those inside Zone
38:54
carries, even if we're not busting the big one, like we
38:56
have the last few games, you know, I like our chances and I
38:59
like some of the things we've been doing with the The with the
39:04
Zone calls the outside Zona particular.
39:06
We've rented a lot to the weak side but I can see us running it
39:08
to the strong side. A lot more in this game just
39:11
because of the alignments that they have because they tend to
39:14
put that extra band towards the weak side.
39:17
So if we run strong, we might have some some numbers there.
39:20
So if we're going to go outside Zone, that's probably what we
39:23
would end up doing. Let me ask this to Braun.
39:26
Have how good is it? Make you feel as a Virginia Tech
39:29
fan, knowing Brock's the center and feeling?
39:32
He, you can see from how he plays a plays with the nasty
39:35
streak. Yeah, but he's also a very Petty
39:37
player multiple year starter Essentially he got all last year
39:43
just to study tape on people to make the calls especially when
39:46
they're moving this line up and down.
39:49
Yeah, that definitely makes me feel good.
39:50
I mean he's going to be the guy, making the primary calls will be
39:53
listening for the checks and then adjusting to those, you
39:57
know, whatever alerts he's getting from the tackles or the
39:59
guards. So I'm really looking forward to
40:01
seeing what kind of adjustments. He makes is they kind of change
40:04
things up and bring different levels of pressure and different
40:07
different alignments of that defense.
40:08
So I think we have an opportunity.
40:10
Take some Advantage there. Especially as the game wears on
40:13
like we've seen, you know, both against NC State and against it
40:17
gets do Glade, just putting them away.
40:21
Third pivotal player, for the Hokies, we feel this week and
40:24
Brian's kind of already highlighted it with some of the
40:27
stuff Carolina does bringing guys up.
40:30
And you said it, a few minutes ago, we discussed the
40:32
quarterback, intermediate routes, Trey Turner.
40:35
Yep, me and you kind of put it out there if Trey can get 52.
40:40
I'm touches on this game the way they play trick.
40:43
Never big day. What should be some of the
40:46
routes? We look for that.
40:48
If we're if we're popping early to Trey it's gonna be a long day
40:51
for them. I think you might see like a
40:54
couple like quick kind of double moves to get him a little bit of
40:58
space behind the corners. Hit him like 15 yards downfield
41:03
on those you're probably going to see some Slants maybe a dig
41:07
but I think we're going to need really need to take advantage of
41:10
Those spots on the field because within bring the Zone Blitz has,
41:14
it's going to take them a while to sometimes get to where they
41:16
need to be in the zone. So if we can kind of get one of
41:19
those Blitz Peter routes in there, you know, we'll have a
41:22
little bit of space to do some damage.
41:25
Absolutely Brian. Absolutely.
41:27
And, you know, we kind of sit here and trade, you know, he's
41:31
had a couple good games I think what like 60 and 50 hasn't had
41:35
as many touches as you know, we've seen.
41:40
But We kind of go up and we start looking and I kind of go
41:44
back to last year's game Run. And you know, we sit here, you
41:49
know, the 4143 game. And you know, Trey Turner that
41:54
day had five receptions for 106 yards and one carry it seven.
42:02
If he has that time of day, again, I think you talked about
42:05
the blood theaters. The double moves, he's gotten
42:09
behind that zone. I also Think if that happens and
42:12
there's probably playing, I don't have the breakdown of this
42:15
game, but if we can remember henin, was there almost to the
42:19
end of the first half and then Ryan Willis came in.
42:22
Didn't Quincy came in so, but it kind of shows you.
42:26
He can do it against this defense.
42:29
Yeah, that one big touchdown sideline.
42:33
The it was the fake little tunnel, they don't know, he kind
42:37
of sold the block and then relief right up and night.
42:40
They just, they just look down at a Beyond and like him and
42:44
just on the money train. Never stop running my touchdown
42:48
this like oh, we have to remember to defend people here.
42:52
Yeah, it was over there. Let's talk about if humans ago.
42:57
I think from a play-calling standpoint, we've definitely
43:00
held a lot back. Oh yes.
43:03
Most people you talked about especially in the passing game,
43:07
I think we've had a lot back in the passing game.
43:10
I think We've gotten may be as creative as we're going to get
43:13
in the running game, but I think there's a lot in the passing
43:15
game that we haven't shown yet this year.
43:18
And I think you're going to probably see some of that get
43:20
broken out this weekend. Yeah, I'm going to disagree with
43:23
you on one piece of that. I don't think we've gotten this
43:25
created, we can with the running game because without that
43:28
passing threat, because without this is my opinion.
43:32
You tell me if I'm right or wrong without the passing
43:34
threat, essentially those guys can come right down hill.
43:38
You played that position and when you Doing some creative
43:41
things running. If you can hold that linebacker
43:43
for a tenth, six yards off the line versus three yards off line
43:47
and it's a run play, somebody like you as an interior guard
43:51
knows. He's way off the line, I'm going
43:53
to get momentum and I'ma put him on his ass verses were closed.
43:58
I just need to get him engaged. I'll say this.
44:01
The reason I said, I think we've gotten creative in the running
44:04
game. Is that at no point last year?
44:07
Did I see us in 21 personnel He'll run a fake outside Zone.
44:15
Quarterback counter for a touchdown.
44:18
Touche, Brian, let's flip it to the other side of the ball, you
44:24
know. Obviously we talked a ton about
44:26
the passing attacked of North Carolina and let's just be
44:31
straight up. The Divine Diablo.
44:34
Is he back? Is he not playing?
44:36
Because I think he's our, no, he's definitely in there number
44:38
one. Yeah, if Diablos.
44:40
Back. I feel a whole lot better.
44:41
I don't feel bad if he's not but I feel a whole lot better if he
44:46
is. I think we'll be fine without
44:50
him. I think we'll Feast if he's in
44:52
the game because I just love he just has a nose for the football
44:57
man. Even if he's not making the
44:59
interception or getting the fumble, I mean he's a guy that
45:02
just always finds a way to be around the play in the
45:04
secondary. So I really hope that he's in
45:07
because I think he'll make a lot of plays for us.
45:10
Absolutely. And plus his leadership back
45:12
there, getting guys along getting guys in the right
45:14
position. It's big.
45:16
It was done very well. Last week by the makeshift
45:19
group, we had in the back end, but I think having him back
45:22
there will be big. Now if he's not back there, tell
45:25
me, who's on the outside? What will scare me is if the
45:30
same names are on that damn list at a.
45:33
Well, right before I go to a baseball game against North
45:38
Carolina, Will be a little pit in my stomach because we need
45:44
some of the secondary. The upper echelon.
45:46
Secondary guys back. Yeah, I'd like to at least see.
45:50
Hopefully Waller is is kind of feeling better and you can play
45:53
and I hope that, you know, we got, we got Chapman back this
45:57
week. If we can get at least those two
45:59
guys back on the field. This week, I would feel a whole
46:01
lot better about the secondary. Like I said, I think Devon
46:06
Diablo is going to be the key but without those other two
46:09
pieces, especially Without Divine back there.
46:11
That would make it a really big big tall order for us to hold
46:16
that. There's an offensive weapons and
46:18
check. Absolutely.
46:21
And Brian you stood on the table with these three guys when we
46:25
when we talked a couple days ago as we were putting this
46:27
together, but why do you feel our interior defensive lineman
46:30
especially Hewitt Deshawn Crawford, who looks like he is
46:33
coming back and Pollard is three name.
46:36
Why do you feel against this offense?
46:38
They are so critical. Because I think you want to put
46:42
pressure in the face of Sam, how consistently, okay, so if we're
46:46
getting good press on those passing Downs, able to make him,
46:50
you know get antsy feedback there, or make a throw when he's
46:54
not ready or potentially, you know, just be a stone back there
46:58
and staying there while he's facing the rush.
47:00
And then throw it kind of at the last second and make a mistake.
47:04
So that those guys are going to be big, you know, Crawford
47:08
Pollard, Hewitt. I mean really need big games
47:12
from them. Beginning, you know, if we get
47:15
food in there, I want to see him, you know, pressing that
47:17
pocket, making some plays, but they also got to be able to
47:20
tackle man because Carter will, like I said, make a guy Miss get
47:24
to the second level and he can be dangerous.
47:26
So when we get our hands on the running back, they definitely
47:29
need to make those plays. Absolutely.
47:32
You know, and we've mentioned the outside, guys, but I think
47:34
to your point Brown we saw last week, With in probably why we
47:39
didn't put Justice or Belmar on here this week.
47:42
They know they're there, they know they're there.
47:45
They're going to be sending things to those guys now.
47:48
Can they probably beat double? Yes.
47:50
But I think it's I think now I understand why you put those
47:54
guys because if they're getting the extra pressure then
47:57
offensively it's like if we're getting pressure up the gut it's
48:01
even worse because he has no pocket to step into and you talk
48:04
about him being able to make resetting his feet.
48:07
Making good throws as we see and we're watching.
48:10
Tom. Brady here, you know, one of the
48:14
all-time greats, don't throw things at me, don't drive over
48:18
here and beat my butt up tonight, man.
48:23
Entire career, you get the interior pressure he just
48:26
becomes a shell of a quarterback.
48:30
He's still a good quarterback but he is no longer a great
48:32
quarterback. Alright.
48:34
Now the last guy is the one that I stood on the table.
48:37
Before. And let's hope he's back this
48:39
week, but I think Alan Tisdale with that range in the way he
48:42
covers taken out Flats. We mentioned Michael quarter
48:46
check Downs, Alan Tisdale can take that away.
48:49
Yep, that's going to be his primary role in the past games,
48:52
taking away those running backs, whether it's Williams or whether
48:56
it's Carter, he's going to be probably responsible for
49:00
handling those guys in coverage, and he's going to be responsible
49:04
for. Making some players that get
49:07
kind of washed outside in the running game.
49:09
So if we get Carter outside he needs to come up.
49:12
Make that tackle man because again I'm going to stress it
49:15
over and over tackling is going to be the key to holding this
49:19
team. Similar to what BC did and what
49:22
Syracuse did. And I think that if we can keep
49:24
them under that 30-point range or right in that ballpark, I
49:28
think we're going to be looking pretty good.
49:30
All right. Hey well Brian, they released it
49:33
today. Let's get our quick opinions.
49:35
What do you think of the white white orange Unis?
49:39
Hear what people say? You know, blah blah blah, orange
49:44
is bad. We haven't played well in
49:45
Orange, whatever I know. Virginia Tech is a lot like
49:49
Michael Scott. They're not superstitious, but
49:51
they are a little stitches. I'm not so much.
49:56
I like the orange. I think it's a good look.
49:57
I like it better with the white than I did with the maroon.
50:00
Yes. Very Sleek with the white.
50:02
Yeah, so I'm cool with the combo.
50:06
I'll let the peanut gallery complain on their own.
50:09
I think the helmet. I think the very traditional
50:13
white helmet helps out. Not trying to flash it out, just
50:17
as white, stripe, your traditional VT, the VT squared
50:21
logo there. I think that helps it, but it
50:24
isn't. It is a very flashy, very Sleek.
50:26
Look, so kudos to that team. Ron.
50:29
Who got the 20? Of juice.
50:33
I am shot. No,
50:47
I'm looking forward to seeing what he does because he's shown,
50:49
he can do a damn good job in 21. You're absolutely right.
50:54
And, you know, after the way he looked last week and it's
50:56
clearly one of those things where he's not going to be back
50:59
there every time. I'm to get kick returns but he
51:02
knows when he gets out there, he's got a job and he two times
51:06
last week. Absolutely flipped the field
51:10
started a drives off super hot. So congrats juice on a 25.
51:16
All right. Well we come Brian.
51:18
It's time for a prediction I'll lead I made you lead last
51:23
week's. Okay, go for it buddy, what you
51:25
got? Well, first of all, I texted you
51:27
earlier this week, I don't know if you remember a couple God
51:30
Days ago, and I just said, I'm not feeling good about this
51:33
game. First of all, it was when I just
51:36
did the initial looking at the rushing stuff from from North
51:43
Carolina side and knowing that they have a good offense and
51:46
knowing they've been a little bit Rusty.
51:48
So I was kind of kind of, you know, thinking and if QB 1s not
51:55
back and it, this is going to be tough.
51:58
We're going to have to play really good.
52:00
Really fundamental football. No, turnovers.
52:02
We cannot have three. Turnovers.
52:05
But then I dug deeper and you find out some things and I
52:10
think. If either quarterback plays, I
52:16
think we can win this game. I think quarterback one, please,
52:20
I think in two places week, I think getting them back in
52:23
shape. Last week, he probably was the
52:25
third emergency quarterback. Probably did not get as many
52:28
reps but just looking at this Carolina team.
52:32
The paper tiger gets crushed this week of all these wonderful
52:36
numbers. Okay. 8:28 Hokies Okay, so 3828
52:45
I like it. I'm writing the same ballpark.
52:49
Actually, I'm going to go. I think you be one plays, I
52:55
think we do good enough on defense and I think our offense
52:59
returns to a balanced nature but still run heavy or I'd say run
53:06
favored. It's called run favored and I
53:11
think we're able to take Take more advantage of the
53:14
intermediate passing game within and hooker, in the game that's
53:17
going to allow us to sustain more drives and not have to
53:20
essentially run the ball down the field in order to sustain
53:23
something to drive. So I'm going to go 3831 a little
53:32
tighter for you. Yep, and the line right now for
53:36
the game, just for our bedding audience out there.
53:39
Because I know some of the folks that listen, I'm sure
53:40
degenerates. Just, that's just the way it is.
53:43
That line moved in the last hour behind.
53:46
Yeah, it's seven and a half as of 11:00 Eastern Standard time
53:50
tonight. It is at four and a half.
53:52
So the monkey continuously comes in on the Hokies for this game.
53:58
Be interested to see where it is by game time Saturday which
54:03
Braun, you have to watch a lot of that first half.
54:07
I will be coaching my sons had a conversation with the head man.
54:12
Today, like you put it on right there in this game like for
54:14
real. He's just kind of smile and it's
54:16
like come on man. You're killing me here, move it
54:19
move it around my schedule. All right, let's let's flip it
54:36
here. So, go ahead and put this in a
54:39
bronze number in here, so we can keep it.
54:41
All right. Brian, dude.
54:44
Back-to-back week, you are crushing people are playing
54:47
bronze pics. You have a lot of money in your
54:51
pocket, six in one last week. Unfortunately, in my first
54:57
losing week at 3:00 and For we are both still over 500, Brian,
55:02
now though is 16 and 8. So, you know, 65% winter.
55:11
Unfortunately, I'm not doing that good at 13 and 11.
55:18
You have been on my games at still.
55:19
You want a little money but not as much as mr.
55:21
Siegel here. But we're going to pick the ACC
55:25
games with a couple out of conferences, against the spread.
55:29
And unless these lines here things significantly in the last
55:32
little while here, I think we're all good.
55:36
So let's fire it up. Run, let's start tomorrow night.
55:39
Probably again, I will not be watching.
55:41
Maybe you will, maybe you won't. But Georgia Tech.
55:44
Louisville Louisville is the road favorite Layman
55:50
four-and-a-half. What's your feeling on this?
55:52
This one. Alright.
55:54
GT's fuck to be twice at Louisville.
55:58
Only a prince. Four and a half points.
56:29
Alright, alright. So Saturday at noon along with
56:32
the Hokies kicking off here in the Commonwealth NC State
56:36
Virginia UVA is laying seven and a half points.
56:44
Coming off the loss. In steady state with the big win
56:46
at Pitt, Brian. I'm gonna take this one and, um,
56:53
I'm gonna, you know, I picked against them last week and it
56:56
burned me because personally when you see the white corner
57:00
back on the field, in the middle part of the third quarter of
57:03
teams, essentially saying you're not going to beat us, we will
57:06
play our backups and our third stringers in our Walk-Ons.
57:10
But I think NC State's going to carry some momentum in.
57:13
I think Larry is the better of the two quarterbacks.
57:16
We didn't have to see him because, you know, the other guy
57:20
had a very good game. So give me a nice day.
57:23
Say, give me seven in the hook. Okay, not so fast.
57:28
Okay. Not so fast.
57:30
My friend. Are you dumb about it?
57:36
I'm trying to decide. I was.
57:37
I'm right on the cusp here because I think I think it's
57:42
going to be potentially a Down to the wire game.
57:48
I think you're right about leery, being the better of the
57:50
two. I think he gives them a little
57:51
bit more balanced, even if he's not necessarily slinging the
57:54
ball around. Like some of the other
57:59
quarterbacks in the ACC, but I've seen enough consistency
58:05
with UVA where I'm kind of leaning in their Direction.
58:12
I'll take NC State the last time they were a road
58:40
favorite. You ready to go back to this
58:42
Harmon, let's do it 1996. So we were both in Middle
58:47
School. Wow.
58:51
They were, they were owing, like, five against way.
58:54
Coup is wanted for Jim Caldwell is a head coach of Wake Forest
58:59
and they were like a two and a half Point favorite or three and
59:02
a half Point favorites. O'Brien, who are you taking in
59:05
this wonderful game against one in three verses?
59:08
Oh, and for all right. So I've got a little more data
59:13
on this one and probably really any of the others we looked at
59:17
to this. So I'm going to keep going with
59:21
with the idea that Georgia Tech sucks and I'm going to say Dukes
59:24
going to cover. I'm with you on that.
59:28
I think Duke is finally got their Bering Strait you know
59:33
last week I think they played a very good game against us or
59:37
some turnover like might have figured out what not to do.
59:41
Do as far as turning the ball over I'm with you take Juke.
59:46
They're going to get their first win outright so they're going to
59:49
easily cover this. Alrighty, next up, Brian USBC
59:55
pit up in Chestnut Hill. This one has got me back and
1:00:01
forth because I don't think Kenny Pickett is a good
1:00:07
quarterback, we've discussed that number But BC cannot run
1:00:12
the damn ball whatsoever. It's oh my God.
1:00:18
It's such a I can't do it. I think six is still too much
1:00:23
for this. Wow he's got 13. 14 points for a
1:00:30
few weeks on pit and looks like they lost their shirts.
1:00:33
They're like screw this. Give it six.
1:00:36
I don't think six is enough. I think, pittle win this game.
1:00:38
I think this will be an ugly similar to the Carolina BC game
1:00:42
somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 421.
1:00:45
BC covers pit probably wins this game though.
1:00:51
Yeah, I think pit wins. I think pit wins by 7.
1:01:00
So I'm going to pick Pizza cover, it's going to cover, I
1:01:07
hate to do it, you hate to do it, but at the same time, I said
1:01:14
it before I said I don't think it's going to beat any team by
1:01:16
two touchdowns. I think they can beat a team by
1:01:19
one touchdown. I just hope you don't get
1:01:23
screwed. I don't know if you like the bad
1:01:28
beat of the we yeah. You see the segment?
1:01:32
Yeah they made a bet on it and cutcliffe last second fuel gold
1:01:43
for really no reason. Yeah, cut it.
1:01:46
Cut have some some skin in that one.
1:01:48
I think. Would you get one and a half
1:01:53
kick the field goal? What do you think, Brian?
1:02:30
That is a lot of points to lay. That's a lot of points to lay.
1:02:39
If we weren't, if they weren't starting a new quarterback, I
1:02:41
would probably take Notre Dame. But with the new quarterback, I
1:02:45
think there's enough potential there where you might see a
1:02:49
little bit more life in the in the Seminoles this week.
1:02:53
So I'm going to take FS you in the points.
1:02:56
Yeah, I'm with you, the new quarterback getting Norville
1:02:59
back. I think Kevin she's going to
1:03:02
cover. I don't I don't think fsu's
1:03:04
going to become. I'm not going to say
1:03:06
competitive, they're probably going to That defense has the
1:03:09
defensive line is good. The rest of the defense looks
1:03:11
terrible but I think they do put some points up with the new
1:03:15
quarterback there. So give me that.
1:03:17
Give me the 21. They probably lose somewhere
1:03:19
between 17 and 20, so it might be a sweat late night, but it is
1:03:26
what it is. All right?
1:03:28
Brian, Let's go to the Texas state fair.
1:03:33
Oh yeah. The river.
1:03:35
Shootout. And it is not the Red River
1:03:39
rivalry to anyone who grew up before like 2010.
1:03:46
It is the Red River, shootout. It is at the Texas state fair.
1:03:49
It is in the Cotton Bowl and Brian is I'm sitting here today
1:03:54
and I see that this line is Oklahoma Land, two and a half.
1:03:59
Okay, what you got? This is like a legal limit bet
1:04:04
because Texas is a tro chaisson defense.
1:04:08
Oklahoma is bad. They're not atrocious, Texas is
1:04:11
giving up damn near 50 points. A game and their back end is
1:04:17
just it's awful. There's there's talented kids
1:04:20
there metric wise, but they didn't Tommy Herman.
1:04:25
They don't know how to coach them.
1:04:27
So I think Oklahoma's not only going to win I think I'll go
1:04:32
home is gonna blow their doors off, okay?
1:04:36
I don't know what the over-under is but my assumption is take the
1:04:40
over. Yes, let's see here.
1:04:43
Were the over is 73. So go take guys, still here
1:04:48
where the over? I think it was 70 earlier in the
1:04:51
week and people were just behind like it's going to be it's going
1:04:54
to be 40 something to at least upper 30 something is in my bet.
1:04:58
So I think you're good taking the over.
1:05:01
Were there, I'm actually with you.
1:05:03
I think this is Rattler Revenge here.
1:05:07
I think we're going to see a much more polished game from
1:05:10
him. And then we saw last week and I
1:05:13
think they're going to just be able to light it up against that
1:05:17
bad, Texas defense, man. So we are agreeing that
1:05:22
Oklahoma, it's going to blow the doors off.
1:05:26
All right, this is a line that's went down in the last couple
1:05:32
days down between the hedges. I do believe on Saturday
1:05:38
afternoon on a sec. I'll see vs Tennessee, Georgia,
1:05:45
Georgia, laying 12 and a half. Both coming off wins.
1:05:52
Georgia. You know, basically Python and
1:05:55
Auburn and what looked like a, no offense and Tennessee,
1:05:59
putting pretty big beat down on Mizzou last week 35:12.
1:06:04
So Brian, what are you feeling for this game?
1:06:09
Other look like a completely different team with the new
1:06:13
trigger, man. Captain Bennett the third.
1:06:17
Yeah, so I'm going to give me other to cover.
1:06:23
Whoo. That is a ton of points to lay
1:06:29
some fuck Tennessee. All right, well this
1:06:52
is not the yard and try to do some crazy stuff.
1:07:00
I think he's going to keep it very basic for Guantanamo.
1:07:03
I think Jordan are going to win but I think through it.
1:07:06
And his goal is going to be we're going to make this an
1:07:09
old-school SEC game playing the 21.
1:07:13
And I think that Tennessee is going to get enough points
1:07:18
probably not pretty to cover. I think, Georgia wins.
1:07:23
I think, Tennessee covers. I think this is going to be
1:07:26
somewhere like a 2014 2013 game. It's going to be ugly.
1:07:34
It's one of those 330s that you have to love college.
1:07:38
You have to love football to enjoy because it's going to be
1:07:41
some good defensive playing. And I mean, me and you, we love
1:07:44
football. So some people would say, how
1:07:46
are you watching a game that is like 13-6 and it's like watch
1:07:51
the defense watch these defenses.
1:07:54
Eat these offensive alive it. That's how and sometimes.
1:07:59
You can say this. Those are some of the most
1:08:02
entertaining games is just those absolute Rock fights where it's
1:08:06
just like, people are getting hit hard.
1:08:10
Every play in. It's awesome to see that.
1:08:16
All right, Brian. I like it last game of the week.
1:08:22
I will leave this one. Miami Clemson, Clemson Lane 14.
1:08:28
Now people are gonna Say something.
1:08:31
The big dog in the ACC Miami's on the comic, but it's
1:08:34
absolutely true. Have you seen Clemson players if
1:08:37
they're like, calling the dogs off and they're, you know,
1:08:41
they're not, they're not playing as well.
1:08:44
They turn, they're not going to turn it off this week because
1:08:47
anytime Clemson gets a team in front of them that they feel
1:08:51
could threaten them. That is when they turn the
1:08:56
afterburners on and just blow I think it'll be a competitive
1:09:00
game, but I do think Clemson will pull away late and late
1:09:05
enough to cover that 14. I think this game is going to be
1:09:09
somewhere in the neighborhood of like 4528 with Clemson score on
1:09:13
a couple late touchdowns to get that cover often.
1:09:16
As they start making the tackles more and more and Clemson can't
1:09:22
burn me two weeks in a row, right, even though against the
1:09:25
spread their terrible, but I feel like I should go try to
1:09:28
find like, UVA was ranked going to the ACC Championship Game?
1:09:32
The lamb was minus 30. That's a lot of points when
1:09:36
someone's like all your ranked, uh, we squish, you know, I think
1:09:43
it's going to be a similar type description of the game as you
1:09:46
just described there, but I think they're not going to quite
1:09:49
cover that 14. I think it's going to be like a
1:09:51
10 to 12 point spread in there. So I'll take Miami in the
1:09:56
points. But I still think it's not going
1:09:58
to be a down-to-the-wire situation.
1:10:01
I think it's going to be a arm's length at the end situation.
1:10:07
One thing has changed in Collegiate football, since we've
1:10:12
got on here Alabama Old Miss, which, I believe was supposed to
1:10:16
be an early kick on Saturday. Has been actually moved Brian.
1:10:23
That game is now going to be a 730 kick.
1:10:28
I believe was supposed to be a high noon kick.
1:10:30
So you know clearly with the hurricane coming through, the
1:10:34
Missouri LSU game was already postponed.
1:10:37
There is one big change but what you smoking this weekend for
1:10:41
these games. You know what, buddy?
1:10:44
Originally I was planning a trip to my mom's but that's actually
1:10:47
kind of been backed off. So I'm going to go with some
1:10:51
queso I got a couple packs of chorizo in the in the freezer
1:10:56
there and make some up with some cheese.
1:10:59
Let's let's get it smoking and will be dipping away.
1:11:03
Unfortunately didn't have any anything else planned.
1:11:06
So I'm I might end up picking up something at the store, but
1:11:09
that's all I got on the docket right now.
1:11:11
Very nice. You should go to the store.
1:11:13
Find you some nice brisket and make you some typos.
1:11:17
Go along with that. Yummy case.
1:11:18
Oh man. Yeah sure.
1:11:19
That sounds delicious dude. Alright.
1:11:22
Anything else? Breaking run that you see?
1:11:27
You look at the bottom line of these games and another right
1:11:33
now, this this Bears bucks is coming down to the wire.
1:11:37
Dude 1917, I'd love a touchdown to Allen Robinson right now to
1:11:42
finish this game off. I don't know if I'm going to get
1:11:45
it all though, he's got a very nice, he's down.
1:11:49
I don't know what the issue is, okay, oops, got distracted by
1:11:53
the game. There folks live podcasting is
1:11:55
what it does. It will not be taken out in the
1:11:58
edit. All right, sir, that is going to
1:12:00
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1:12:04
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