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- 0:06Well, good afternoon, everybody. It's the Cryptid Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
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- 1:08We're going to be talking about spear Finger and legends of Cherokee lore,
- 1:15okay, and are these legends and lore mythological creatures? Are they real or
- 1:23do they exist one time or do they exist today? I might have had
- 1:26some personal experience with at least one or two of these, Okay, So
- 1:32we're going to talk about that today. And by we, I mean Dennis
- 1:34Carrol and I Doctor Dennis Carol is here in the studio today once again,
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- 3:38I'm going to be talking today and Dennis as well. We're going to
- 3:40talk about one of my favorite witches. Okay. And it's also the scariest
- 3:47because I do feel like I have potentially come into contact with her in the
- 3:52woods before, Okay, up in the Appalachian Mountains where my team and I
- 3:55do research, up in North Georgia, in North Carolina and into tynes Okay.
- 4:00So I'm going to give a little rundown of whose Spearfinger is, and
- 4:04then we're going to introduce Dennis to the show. Spearfinger is the legendary shape
- 4:10shifting witch of the Cherokee legend who roams the woods of the Appalachian Mountains between
- 4:15Tennessee, Georgia and North Carolina. She takes the form of an old lady
- 4:19hunting the woods for children to feed her insatiable appetite for her favorite delicacy,
- 4:26liver. She extracts that from her victims with her long, sharp, obsidian
- 4:31like finger. Today, we're going to be talking about my possible encounters with
- 4:36Spearfinger and other Cherokee legends along the Appalachian Mountains with Dennis Carol. Dennis has
- 4:43over forty years of experience in the field of the paranormal. He studied,
- 4:46research and investigated many aspects pertaining to the paranormal and the supernatural with many person
- 4:53personal paranormal experiences. He's a researcher and investigator of the occult and supernatural.
- 5:00He's a well known UFO encrypted researcher and has a fantastic YouTube channel. It's
- 5:05called Hunting the Shadows on YouTube where he has a really amazing seminar setup for
- 5:11us tonight on the Nephilim So please help me. Welcome to the show,
- 5:14my co host, doctor Dennis Carrol. Hey, Dennis, Afternoon, Glad
- 5:20to be here. It's solid pleasure. Oh, thank you so much,
- 5:25Dennis for being here. It's always fun when you're here because we have the
- 5:29best conversations, and today is no different. We're going to be talking about
- 5:33some of our favorite and the scariest legends of Cherokee folklore. Y Jessica folklore.
- 5:44I love folklore. I've loved it for me too many years. And
- 5:46the Cherokee are treasure trove of folklore. They have some very interesting stories and
- 5:54Spearfanger is definitely one of them. That you know, the wicked Witch of
- 5:58the has nothing on Spearfinger. Okay. She is a bag goal, definitely,
- 6:06She's she's a bad, little old lady, okay. And I did
- 6:11mention that she is a shape shifter and she has terrified the woods of North
- 6:16Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, and all along the Smoky Mountains and the Appalachian
- 6:23Mountains down here in the South for a long long time. And I think
- 6:28that I might have had an encounter with Spearfinger before I know. My team
- 6:32has had potentially had some dealings with what we believe to be Spearfinger, and
- 6:39it could be not only in a three D sense, but in a spiritual
- 6:42sense, which sounds kind of odd, I know. But and then the
- 6:46description of spear finger. The description of spearfinger is very interesting. She has
- 6:53described, of course as a lady, a woman dressed in animal skins.
- 6:58She has long, long, black hair, and her skin is supposedly made
- 7:03of stone like material. You can't pierce your skin, and she can actually
- 7:11supposedly use that spear finger, which is usually on her right hand, and
- 7:15it's the index finger. It's very long and like an obsidian stone. She
- 7:20can pierce you, take out your liver and devour it and that's her favorite
- 7:28thing to do. So this is what spearfinger kind of what she looks like.
- 7:33It's very interesting that she's holding a heart in her hand as well.
- 7:36Den us m so definitely okay, It's it's very odd, right, And
- 7:43I think one of the first times I had ever heard of spearfinger was when
- 7:46I went camping with some of my friends who are elders of the Cherokee up
- 7:53in Cherokee, North Carolina, Okay, of the Cherokee tribe up Dere and
- 7:58it was a Will Okay, Will is one of the artists up there.
- 8:03He's an artist. He was actually in some of the Disney movie where he
- 8:09played a chief of I forgot. I don't know what movie it was,
- 8:11but he's like a very well known elder of the Cherokee up there, and
- 8:18it's been a while since I've talked to all of them, so and it
- 8:20says Chief David up there. They took me to the top of this mountain
- 8:24where we camped out for an entire weekend, and Chief David David Webb by
- 8:30the way. David took me and my cousin Jesse, who makes all the
- 8:33Bigfoot art you know that I've talked about before, Jesse and his fiance,
- 8:39and we went up there and it was beautiful. We watched the sky ship
- 8:45Sober Cashiers all weekend. If you guys are familiar with the sky ship Sober
- 8:48Cashers, I have some pictures from this is the looking out over the mountains
- 8:54from where my tent was set up. Okay, so if you can imagine
- 8:58how beautiful this was up there. But also it was also a little bit
- 9:03terrifying because during that weekend, throughout the night, I was seeing a shadow
- 9:09running around the camp. Okay, a shadow. It went in circles around
- 9:13our camp both nights that we were out there and Will. This is Will.
- 9:18He's an artist. He does a lot of folk art. His favorite
- 9:22thing to make are totem poles, totem poles and booger masks. And if
- 9:28you'll notice on this totem pole, this was at the Cherokee Cultural Arts Center
- 9:33up there where they put on a lot of their They put some of the
- 9:35artwork from the local artists on display, and he had made this totem.
- 9:41If you look in the background, that is called the stone coat witch on
- 9:46the top, and I believe that is who we refer to as Spearfinger.
- 9:50And if you'll notice, it's a woman, a witch with her hands around
- 9:54the neck of a child. Okay, now this is what I know.
- 10:00It sounds terrible, but it's almost like this is one of a big story
- 10:05in Cherokee. To me, when I first heard it, I thought it
- 10:07was just to scare the kids, to keep them out of the woods,
- 10:11Okay, so they don't wander too far by themselves, because a lot of
- 10:15these tales are cautionary tales for kids and for adults to stay out of trouble.
- 10:22But when we were up on that mountain, not only did we have
- 10:26bigfoot activity, of dear Dennis. We had the sky ships, which are
- 10:30UFOs, that were floating above us all weekend over the mountain. There were
- 10:33four of them. But we had a witch. They told me that was
- 10:39a witch that was running in circles around us because we were on some sacred
- 10:41land, Okay, on top of they said it was a vortex where we
- 10:45were saying. And we also had what Will said was a skin walker tried
- 10:50to approach us at one point that night, one of those nights. Because
- 10:54he turned he outed the blue. We started feeling this really uneasy feeling and
- 10:58Will started screaming in an old, old, old, like ancient dialect of
- 11:03Cherokee that he said, no one speaks anymore to tell the skin walker to
- 11:07go away. I know I'm not supposed to say that word, okay,
- 11:11but but that's what it was, something to do with some dark magic and
- 11:16something that was following him around, he said. So it was an interesting
- 11:18weekend, Dennis, very interesting, very interesting time out there. But the
- 11:24witch that was running around the camp was said to be the stone coat witch.
- 11:31Okay, Now, the stone coat Dennis. That's when they say stone
- 11:33coat, they're referring to the fact that she cannot be penetrated her skin when
- 11:37you when you shoot an arrow at her or shoot at her, it bounces
- 11:41right off. Mhm. Are you familiar with that, Dennis, Yeah,
- 11:48that's very interesting. Get up. Uh. We said before, there's a
- 11:52lot of magic in the mountains, especially the Appas mountains, especially sins like
- 11:58it's a very spear chiritial area. And when you think about Spearfinger, she
- 12:03is an evil spirit entity, you might say, in that respect, But
- 12:07there are other relations and things related, I think to Spearfinger as well,
- 12:11like the deer woman. I don't know if you're familiar with the legend of
- 12:15the deer woman, but she can actually appear as a beautiful young maiden in
- 12:20the forest, lure men into the forest and kill them. She's just as
- 12:26bad and the deer. The dear Lady is just about as bad as Spearfinger
- 12:31in that respect. Spearfinger is more monstrous in one way, the way the
- 12:37churkey describe her. And that's the deer. That's the deer woman there,
- 12:39dear lady. Uh. And here's a telltale sign about her. She looks
- 12:43just like a human woman except for her feet, which are the feet of
- 12:48the deer. She can sometimes appear as a deer and all. This also
- 12:52feeds into the legend of the white deer, and we'll talk about that in
- 12:56a little bit. The white deer is very interesting respect too, because this
- 13:01symbolizes sort of a good spirit thing going on, where some of these other
- 13:05stuff is bad, bad mojo type stuff. They the Cherokee warned their children
- 13:13around the coumpfires, do not go out alone at night, do not go
- 13:16even in daytime. He was not allowed for their children to go out along,
- 13:22or especially for young maidens to go out along, because then you had
- 13:26the other things to worry about. The Cherokee Devil for one thing. To
- 13:31this day, a lot of people and I've actually been looking for the Cherokee
- 13:35devil went out looking. It's actually the name for the Cherokee bigfoot, by
- 13:39the way. His name is a sioux Kaloo, the sue Kaloo, and
- 13:46he is with the red glowing eyes. And here's the interesting thing about the
- 13:54sue Kaloo is that he with those eyes. If you look in his eyes,
- 13:56he can take over your mind and actually take over your motive, your
- 14:03motivation. He can actually psychically attack you in that respect. And I find
- 14:09that very interesting. You never hear too many bigfoots that can do that,
- 14:15So he is interesting. And that's basically why he is called a Cherokee devil.
- 14:18He has all the attributes of a demonic entity in that respect. And
- 14:24you know, I've told a lot of people when we've said on some of
- 14:26these shows, Jessica, if you ever encounter anything like Spearfinger or Salukaloo or
- 14:33whatever, do not look into their eyes. That is where their power lies.
- 14:39And if you look into their eyes, they can control you and get
- 14:43you exactly where they want you. The Dear Lady is very much like that.
- 14:48She can supposedly also if you look in her eyes, get you to
- 14:52do whatever she wants to. We're talking about some very bad medicine there.
- 14:56As they say, oh yeah, well, there's a there's a whole story
- 15:01about Sukaloo as well. And I actually had done a remote viewing show on
- 15:05Judicola Rock at some point and we did talk about Sukulu. Some people call
- 15:09him Judicola as well. And Uh. And there's a big rock in Uh
- 15:15in North Carolina. It's not too far from Cashier's kind of the area where
- 15:18I was. I was hanging out during that weekend. But I was taken
- 15:22there and I have a picture, okay, and I don't I want y'all
- 15:26to know that this is not you're not supposed to do this. And today
- 15:28there's a fence around this, but back then there wasn't. And I sat
- 15:31on Judicola Rock. I know that's terrible. You're not supp to sit on
- 15:33this thing at this point. But this is an old, ancient rock that
- 15:39has I mean, it's very debatable as to what is written on this.
- 15:43There's petroglyphs. I mean we're talking about hundreds of thousands of years old.
- 15:48I mean it could be like a million years old. I don't even know
- 15:52it's really old. Okay, history is debatable at this point in my time,
- 16:00very ancient stuff. And you know, the Cherokees go back a long
- 16:03ways and there are many legends that the shrike you talk about my favorite the
- 16:07moon eight people. They said that the moone eye people who are described as
- 16:11short white people with beards, and they supposedly were here when the Cherokee first
- 16:18arrived, and they had like a war with them and drove them underground.
- 16:22To this day, supposedly that is where the Moonlight people are still living underground.
- 16:30You have some very interesting stuff going on here. This is a high
- 16:34I call a very high high strangeness area, definitely. So I'm not surprised
- 16:40at what happened with you happened there, because I've had a lot of interesting
- 16:44things happened to me in those locasions too. You're dealing with very ancient power,
- 16:48like a very ancient magic you might want to call it. Whenever you
- 16:53run into that, you run into elemental type spiritual beings. That the sort
- 17:00of like the wild card in the deck. You don't know what's gonna happen
- 17:04with that situation. Yes, you never You never know. Always keep your
- 17:10head on a swivel at places like this. Okay, so you mentioned the
- 17:14the what is it the devil? Oh my gosh, what is it?
- 17:17The Cherokee devil? Okay, the Cherokee Devil? And if that is Judahicula,
- 17:22that's it's really interesting. I actually, if you, if you go
- 17:26back and watch that show that I did on the Judahicola Rock. Some people
- 17:30consider Judahicula or Sugaloo to be a giant human, but the majority of stories
- 17:33that come out of this are him being a Sasquatch or a wild man type
- 17:38of a being or a creature I guess you could say a being. And
- 17:42he actually even had a female human girlfriend, Okay. And the story behind
- 17:48him goes that he was guarding Judicola Rock there, that petroglyph that I showed
- 17:53you guys where I'm sitting on it, and he he would anytime in that
- 18:00area that the hunters, the Cherokee hunters would where he considered to be trespassing,
- 18:04they would trespass onto that piece of property right there, he would attack
- 18:08them, and to this day. Okay, so this is all then like
- 18:12a pasture farmland. And if you go about fifty yards from where Judicola Rock
- 18:18is, there's something that what Chief David called Judicola's thrown right there, and
- 18:25it's a bunch of gigantic rocks. It's actually from a good distance away,
- 18:27but those are some big rocks where they say that that's where Judicola would sit
- 18:33and watch for, you know, to keep us to keep watch, I
- 18:36guess, over the property right there. Yeah. Well, those that were
- 18:38sort of well we call corns or their landmarkers area markers. A lot they
- 18:45marked these places and trails and all that, and especially they venerated their places
- 18:51of the dayad you know, wherever there there people were buried or the ceremonies
- 18:56for burial took place, that was a very sacred area. So they would
- 19:00definitely put up markers to warn you of what you know, you were encountering
- 19:06places like that. Here's the interesting thing about when we were talking about the
- 19:11Cherokee devil. He is described by the Sherokee as a giant. And I'm
- 19:17gonna be talking about giants and I on my on my sebinar, but this
- 19:21leads into the fact that these things were not small. They were very big,
- 19:26very tall. They were considered giants by the Cherokees, the tribe of
- 19:33people. And here's another interesting thing, Jessa, we'll talk some more about
- 19:37that. The Nana High a Nanna High are actually the spirit beings. The
- 19:41Cherokee believed these were good spirit beings that guarded and protected them. They were
- 19:48light beings, sort of like what we would call our angels. The nunna
- 19:53I protected the Cherokee people. So if you ran into these things like the
- 19:59Shirky, the devil, spear finger, or the dear Lady or whatever,
- 20:03you would call upon the Nanna High to protect you from these, uh,
- 20:08these evil spirits. So those are the good spirits of the Cherokey or the
- 20:15nun of High. Are those the same as the Cherokee little people? Dennis?
- 20:23Yeah, those are sort of the Nana High. Uh were described as
- 20:30sort of light light beings really, I'm thinking about high. They so they
- 20:34talked about them. It were sort of very spiritual. So they didn't take
- 20:38on a form as we would call for them, you know, but they
- 20:42were there and they could do good and they could also punish you if you
- 20:48did bad though. Could you know, if you disrespected someone or you beat
- 20:53someone or whatever the situation was, you could also have the Nunn of High
- 20:57come down on you that way as well. So there was so a very
- 21:00moralistical type spiritual beings. Wow. Okay, well that's interesting. Okay,
- 21:08I have I have some information on Spearfinger. Okay, so I kind of
- 21:15want to backtrack a little bit. Let's talk about Spearfinger a little bit more,
- 21:18because not only have I had that potentially one encounter with Spearfinger on top
- 21:22of that mountain, I think we've had about two more as a matter of
- 21:26fact, out in the field, and so I wanted to go over the
- 21:32story behind Spearfinger today for the audience. Okay, so I mentioned that she's
- 21:37covered in like a stone like skin, Okay, that no aros can penetrate.
- 21:44She's a shape shifter, and she really likes to take the form of
- 21:48a little old lady, Okay, because what better way to fool your opponent
- 21:52and your enemies or your victims in her case than to look like a helpless
- 21:57old little lady walk through the woods. But as soon as she traps her
- 22:03victims, she turns into her true formed in us. And some say it
- 22:07looks something like these these creatures right here. If you look at those look
- 22:15at those beings, they look more like what we traditionally used to call trolls
- 22:18or mountain trolls. They were made almost as like stone material, which is
- 22:25maybe very related to this Spearfinger, because that's why she is described in that
- 22:30sense of the word. But it means that they are almost I'm not gonna
- 22:36say, well immortal, but they are very impenetrable. You can't attack them
- 22:41with spears or or with the arrows or clubs. You're really you're really at
- 22:47a disadvantage over something like that. To me, that makes an interesting thing
- 22:52and you know you hit upon the deer lady earlier. And the deer you
- 22:56know, we've we've talked about, you know, not real deer, not
- 23:00deers we call them. Uh. These are another part of the Cherokee legions
- 23:06that some of these beings can't appear not only as a beautiful maiden or an
- 23:11old lady as you said, the older they but they can also appear as
- 23:15animals. And one of those is, of course the deer. You know,
- 23:19the deer was very important and essential to the Cherokee tribes. That was
- 23:26part of it. Was there, well, they lived off of it,
- 23:27they used it. It was very much like the buffalo to the Plains Indians
- 23:33was the white tail deer to the Cherokee. So the Cherokee venerated that.
- 23:37And if they these evil spirits would take on the form of a deer and
- 23:42do weird stuff that walk on two legs of the monimal deer, what I
- 23:45do. Uh. They knew they were dealing with some kind of bad,
- 23:49evil spirit because it was taking what they associated that it's a good part of
- 23:56nature, the deer, and turning it into something hell, something bad.
- 24:00Uh. That's the way evil spirits supposed that they work in that respect.
- 24:07Well, you know what, that reminds me of the Native American skin walker.
- 24:12Okay, it kind of reminds me of that. And and that was
- 24:17something that I was almost scared out of my skin that night, that something
- 24:22crawled up behind our tents and our base camp on top of that mountain,
- 24:26and mister will started screaming out, like started yelling at it in this old
- 24:30ancient dialect of Cherokee. Okay, And I knew that there was something wrong,
- 24:36but we couldn't. And it could have been trying to scare us,
- 24:38absolutely, Okay, but I don't think he was. I think he generally
- 24:45since because we all since there was something creeping up behind us. The Cherokee
- 24:49had an equivalent for them, the skin walker, and they had also equivalent
- 24:53sort of little windygo as well. Uh, have you ever heard of the
- 24:56raven mocker. Well, the raven marker is a very bad god, very
- 25:03bad dude. It can take on. It makes the noise and cry or
- 25:07of a raven or crow. But this thing, actually, this spirit actually
- 25:14comes and takes the spirit out of a person when they die. They capture,
- 25:19suppose that spirit, and in some legends of the shirt key. They
- 25:23are the passageway from this life to the next life. The raven Macker takes
- 25:29you over when you pass, but he can also be an omen a very
- 25:34bad omen of death and destruction, something very bad that's gonna happen if you
- 25:41hear the raven Macker or see him. And he supposedly looks sometimes like with
- 25:45the body of a man, but the head of a raven. If you
- 25:51hear him, it's spore like, very much like the Irish banshee. You
- 25:55know, it's a portent of death. Another thing that you cherokey do like
- 26:00is the sound of owls at night. That is also a portent of death
- 26:06and associated with the raven Mocker. Wow, I have not heard that before.
- 26:14I have, in fact, though, heard sasquatch imitating owls at night.
- 26:19Okay, so that's that's something else. I put another level to it,
- 26:26because that's that can be kind of creepy. Actually, now, Andrew,
- 26:29hey, Andrew, Okay, he says, are there any specific conditions
- 26:33in which this creature would try to approach you? Now if you're talking about
- 26:37spearfinger, I was just about to address that, okay, So let me
- 26:41let me get into that. So the story goes with spearfinger. That she
- 26:45had rained like terror throughout the lands, all through the smoky mountains in Tennessee,
- 26:52Georgia, North Carolina. You know, because we've had our experiences with
- 26:56spearfinger, which we believe was spearfinger in Georgia, so it's not just Tennessee
- 27:03in North Carolina. But it got so bad that the Cherokee medicinemen called a
- 27:10council together with neighboring tribes to see how they could stop her reign of terror.
- 27:17They heard that she was feeding. Okay, so feeding that sounds horrible,
- 27:19but she was feeding close by, so they decided to trap her okay.
- 27:23So in order to do that, they dug a huge pit around their
- 27:27village and they covered it with leaves and brush so that she would fall in
- 27:33and they could unalive her. Okay is what they were going to plan to
- 27:37do. So they knew that she loved the fall season the best. Who
- 27:41doesn't, right, And so they went to the Cherokee were known to go
- 27:47hunt for chestnuts out in the forest Dennis, And so when they would do
- 27:51that, they would set they do like a controlled burn. And for people
- 27:55who aren't sure, they don't know what a control burn is. It's where
- 27:56they just would set a fire and it would burn out all the brush and
- 28:02the grass and the sticks, all the dead leaves and things like that,
- 28:04so they could see the chestnuts better. Okay, so it was easier to
- 28:07spot the chestnuts. So they knew that that would probably call her in because
- 28:12she would know that they were there in the woods looking for chestnuts. The
- 28:17little kids would probably be out there, and what if she love to eat
- 28:18the most children's livers? Okay, the children they're young and tender apparently,
- 28:25which is terrible. But they they set the fire and all the warriors set
- 28:30in wait looking for her, waiting for her to show up. And instead
- 28:33of some demonic entity showing up, they saw a little old lady approaching.
- 28:40Well they knew it was spear Finger, so they started shooting at her.
- 28:44But their arrows were bouncing off and that's when she took her demonic form.
- 28:48Okay, she shaped shipped. I say domonic, but it was like the
- 28:52terrible form of that, like the picture that I showed. They were shooting
- 28:57at her, the arrows were going through and they threw rocks. Nothing was
- 29:03everything was bouncing off of her. That's why they call her the stone Coat,
- 29:06which but as they're doing this and this just barrage of you know,
- 29:11throwing things and trying to hit her, a little tiny bird, I think
- 29:15it was like a chickendee, okay, or a tufted tit mouse potentially,
- 29:21it landed on her shoulder and it was almost like showing the warriors like shoot
- 29:26here, shoot right here. So they shot her there but nothing happened.
- 29:29And then another bird landed on her finger, and they noticed that it had
- 29:33a long They saw her long spear that was made out of like an obsidian
- 29:37looking material, and as she held her hand up, they saw there was
- 29:42a beating black heart inside of her hand. Dennis, in her hand,
- 29:48she has a hand in a heart. Yeah, that's right. So she
- 29:52had let me take this down. She had her heart in her hand,
- 29:56and so the bird, but the bird had landed there to kind of show
- 30:00them this is where you should you should shoot, and so they were able
- 30:04to shoot her heart in her hand, and that is what finally did her
- 30:08in, according to the legend. So and another really scary thing about this
- 30:15is that she would shape shift in this old lady form and she would trick
- 30:18the children in the village and she would be very grandmotherly and stroke their hair
- 30:25and make it where they would She would pretty much lull them to sleep,
- 30:29and when they fell asleep, she would take her sharp razor pointed finger and
- 30:33stick it in their back and pull out their liver and eat it. Yeah,
- 30:40that is the way to dispatch spear Finger. You kill her by shooting
- 30:44her in her hand where the spear is. I think it was always the
- 30:48right or something like that. That was one way you dispatched. That was
- 30:52the only way, because like I said, the rest of her was the
- 30:56rest of her make up was like stone marrows. Spears would ounce off,
- 31:00Knives had no effect. That was the one way to get her. Very
- 31:03much like the legend of the dragon Jessica. There's always one scale on the
- 31:07dragon that was a week. That was where you aimed. That was what
- 31:11you aimed for to take him down. And that is the same thing with
- 31:15with spearfinger. She had a weakness. Uh. One other thing of the
- 31:21thing supposed to Cherokee believed in, and the Cherokee believed very strongly, and
- 31:26the fact that you respected the land, you usually were not going to run
- 31:30into have a problem with spearfinger. As if you were on a pure of
- 31:34heart and you did the the things right and you respected your elders and you
- 31:40respected the land, you usually didn't have that problem unless you were in the
- 31:44wrong place at the wrong time, like I think you might have been in
- 31:45that situation. But uh, you could always be in the wrong place the
- 31:51wrong time. That's the way things go in this world. But anyway,
- 31:56another way to keep these evil spirits away from you was carry a red tail
- 32:00hawk feather. The red tail hawk was sort of the spirit animal of the
- 32:07cherokey. They venerated it. And if you had that feather usually around you,
- 32:13on you somewhere some on your close proximity, you would keep these evil
- 32:19spirits away from you. It was sort of a protected like the cross would
- 32:22be against vaum byres. That was their thing. And of course you had
- 32:29to be in tune with a nana hive. That was another good thing,
- 32:32the good spirits of the land and of the ancestors. But there were a
- 32:38lot of different things that you could run into. There were a lot of
- 32:43different things like the uh ukatina. Katina is a terrible looking thing. It
- 32:52is described as a gigantic snake with wings fins on it, and it has
- 32:59a diemon in his forehead. This thing is a terrible, terrible creature running.
- 33:05It looks like your typical dragon, only it does it. It has
- 33:09a diamond in his forehead. And it is said that if the great only
- 33:15the greatest warriors could take this thing down and retrieve that diamond. And if
- 33:20they could do that, and only one, according to Cherokee legend, only
- 33:23one warrior ever did that, the greatest one of all. I can't think
- 33:28of his name right all. He actually got the diamond off of it,
- 33:34and the diamond can be used. And the Cherokee supposedly have a hidden away
- 33:38this diamond. They won't let anyone see. It's very very very sacred to
- 33:44them. But they say this diamond can heal the people in the land.
- 33:50That's a very interesting legend about the Lukatima. Dennis, you know what that
- 33:57looks like to me? A dragon? Yeah. So we've been talking about
- 34:05dragons a good lately and and dragons being real. Giryl and Jane are in
- 34:10the chat today. Hey, Giryl and Jane with Midwest Night Watchers and cheer
- 34:15Rose Sounds. We did it. We've done shows on dragons before and talked
- 34:17about them. I mean that that would suggest if if some of these mythological
- 34:25creatures that we hear out of legends and lore from the Appalachian Mountains, what
- 34:31what if what if these things were actually real? You know, like I
- 34:34said, I've had my encounters potentially my potentially with spear finger, okay,
- 34:38And I've definitely had encounters with bigfoots, sasquatch, and I don't know about
- 34:43the Cherokee devil, but I mean there's probably a whole bunch of Cherokee devils.
- 34:49But but that snaw another one, very very much like the uh uh
- 34:59just description of it. And here's here's an interesting parallel too, Jessica.
- 35:04European dragons were originally described as being like gigantic snakes. Uh. You have
- 35:12to wonder somewhere back in time that you know, glenkind encountered gigantic snakes.
- 35:17It's not that far fetched that these things could not have existed. Look at
- 35:22look at you know Anaconda's and the boas and all that are in Florida right
- 35:28now. For that matter of fact, you have some very big snakes.
- 35:32So it's not that far fetched that you could run into gigantic tide snakes.
- 35:38Oh yeah, there are multiple stories of giants snakes all over the United States
- 35:45throughout the centuries. So Marine, thank you so much for that supersticker.
- 35:49I appreciate you, Thank you so much. Yeah, we we have.
- 35:54We have telles of all sorts of different types of serpents and lake snakes and
- 36:00monsters and things that look like the Latanus monster. But yeah, we do,
- 36:05we do have. We do have a lot. I'm not going to
- 36:08see a lot of dragons here. I haven't heard a whole lot of stories
- 36:10of dragons in the United States. But what if some of these giant snakes
- 36:16that have been talked about throughout history that are mythological creatures, what if those
- 36:21were actually dragons here in the US without we do know, without a die
- 36:28back. In prehistoric times, everything was big. I mean, you had
- 36:31big spiders, You had done the Cherokees bely, you have a legend about
- 36:35giant spiders too. By the way, everything was big. You had mosquitoes
- 36:40the size of the eagles. You know, you had some lived stuff going
- 36:45on. So what are some of this stuff, you know, made it
- 36:49through the years down to actually meeting with mankind? All the different tribes that
- 36:53might have run into these things. Yeah, that's not that far face to
- 36:59me that this be the basis for a lot of their legends. Some of
- 37:02these things were huge, just like the Sasquats they talk about being described as
- 37:07a race of giants. And then of course the further out west, you
- 37:12do have the legends of giants, you know, the red hair giants that
- 37:15they ran into out in the Midwest, the Indians out there. I actually
- 37:22had wars with them and I actually destroyed them. So this is and here's
- 37:28another interesting fact that you have the cherokeys and you have the moon out people,
- 37:31and you have the same description of these same kind of people with the
- 37:36Apaches, which were thousand miles away from each other. But you had some
- 37:42very interesting transference going on here. You know, you have to wonder,
- 37:46you know, if some of this was not based on absolute fact. I
- 37:53think it was okay. And there was another incident that I had out in
- 37:58the woods when it comes to spearfinger in Abbot, Haven't has that That's the
- 38:00interesting thing. I actually I think I've seen that picture talking about there's a
- 38:04picture of a hundred foot snake from the plane in the Amazon. Now the
- 38:08Amazon has some serious, seriously gigantic creatures in it, Okay, because it's
- 38:14just a just like the ocean. It's like so vast things are able to
- 38:17grow to be gigantic out there. But okay, So another incident that I
- 38:23had out in the woods with Spearfinger was when we were out I was out
- 38:27with my team, and you know, I We're able to pick up psychically
- 38:30on a lot of stuff out there. That's why the whole team is trained
- 38:34in remote viewing. Okay, it's partly because so we can tune in psychically
- 38:40to whatever's going on out there, to potentially communicate with whatever's out there,
- 38:47and to also not let your mind wander and to to I mean, you
- 38:52can totally go crazy out there sometimes, y'all. It's really scary in the
- 38:57woods. And so Dennis, I was out there when with my team and
- 39:00we had broken off into smaller teams, and I was with one team where
- 39:02we don't use flashlights, no headlamps, no nothing out there, and we
- 39:07had wandered very very deep into the North Georgia mountains and all all we could
- 39:13hear was a tapping. Okay. I had just learned a story about Spearminger
- 39:16not too long before this, But we kept hearing tapping on a tree,
- 39:21like tip tap tap tap tap tap tap tap, and it was so loud
- 39:23it was ringing out through the woods. But I just kept hearing tap tap
- 39:27tap, and psychically what I was seeing was spearfinger tapping her spearfinger on a
- 39:32tree. Okay, Now, was that my mind running away from me?
- 39:37Maybe? Okay, maybe one hundred percent it could have been. But at
- 39:40the same time, it was in my mind, you know, it was
- 39:45just that connection out there. So yeah, I decided I was not wanting
- 39:49to go back to that area at all for the rest of that weekend.
- 39:52But yeah, at night, I was like, why why are we not
- 39:55going to turn our flashlights on y'all? Okay, But but you know that
- 40:00that is a definite mother sounds to operandau of these things. Yes, because
- 40:05she was better trying to lead you away off the trail and get you lost.
- 40:09You know, that's the way these maleva that things work. Just like
- 40:15the traditional will of the whisk or the or the dear lady we talked about
- 40:20earlier. That was her job to lure you off the trail and do away
- 40:25with you. They weren't taking you out for a party, and definitely not
- 40:30They're not going to leave you after any good place. We're in a good
- 40:32end, you might say, to that situation. So it's just just you
- 40:37know, and I have to wonder about where you were at at the time,
- 40:42if it was not old you know, sacred land to some of that,
- 40:45and maybe you had, you know, stumbled upon this area. It
- 40:50seemed like a hot area to me. For definite situation like that. There
- 40:55had to be a reason for it to be like that, So it could
- 40:59have been as acuid area or something similar to that was very high magical properties
- 41:05to it. Yes, Millie, Millie has a good question. Do I
- 41:08wear night vision goggles? We all have fleer devices and night vision cameras and
- 41:15things like that. I don't go around wearing like a helmet like you see
- 41:19the military using with the night vision. Hey, but I will start a
- 41:22fund if anybody wants to donate to h to a night vision goggle fund,
- 41:28that would be awesome. But I don't. I don't have those. I
- 41:31wish I did. I've been in situations I don't know about you, but
- 41:35I've been in situations where headlamps, a light of headlamps seem to be sucked
- 41:40up by the darkness. It is like your light did not go very far.
- 41:44If you ever run into an area like that, it's very creepy or
- 41:47light just that's not seem to want to penetrate to the nixt tin. Yeah,
- 41:55you know one thing that I would not want to take out into the
- 41:58woods where we go. I mean, I think it'd be kind of cool
- 42:01in some aspects when other aspects to be terrifying. And those are those days
- 42:05sign and digoggles that I've talked about before on the show's that's the inter dimensional
- 42:12viewing technology Dennis that they say that they were using Vietnam during the Vietnam War
- 42:17and the soldiers were seeing into another dimension. They were seeing what they thought
- 42:21was hell because it was there were demons flying around. I think a lot
- 42:27of these things, Jessica can attack you psychic lee and get you to see
- 42:30what they want you to see or think what they want you to think,
- 42:35very much like the Dear Lady or like you know, the Cherokey devil we
- 42:39talked about earlier with the red glowing eyes. Do not look in their eyes
- 42:45because once you have that psychic bond with these things, then they can get
- 42:50you under control in that respect. So I have to wonder if a lot
- 42:53of these things can get you to hear and see things that they want you
- 42:58to for certain purposes of their own. I think you can be well,
- 43:02you would call traditionally under some kind of psychic attack, like you know,
- 43:06a spiritual attack in that respec Yeah, And I'd mentioned that the remote viewing
- 43:13helps us to keep our minds right and it helps you to keep your head
- 43:15on straight when you're out in really scary situations like I've been in out in
- 43:21the woods. And because when it comes down to it, I always say
- 43:25this, the head of my team taught me early all roads lead back to
- 43:30ET in a lot of ways. And there's a lot of extraterrestrial stuff going
- 43:34on a phenomenon going on out in the woods, along with all of these
- 43:37Cherokee legends and lore, along with the Sasquatch, along with the UFOs.
- 43:42Everything portals a lot of it has to do with ET activity. And when
- 43:46I started doing this research, I started having first hand close contact with ets
- 43:52that were showing up in my bedroom at night. Okay, so there's something
- 43:59that there's something that not only the ets can do, but there's something that
- 44:02probably some of these other entities like you're saying, can do, and that
- 44:07has put screen memories in our in our minds, okay, and uh and
- 44:12make us pretty. You know, some project something into our mind that's not
- 44:15actually what we're what we're seeing, if that makes sense. So that's why
- 44:20we work out our spiritual muscles, okay, our psychic muscles to try to
- 44:24prevent that from happening. It's like having the showdown with the aliens, you
- 44:28know, out there and stuff. If you if you're able to have a
- 44:31strong mind and be switched on psychically, you're less likely to be manipulated by
- 44:38whatever's going on out there. Okay, I guess that's kind of the bottom
- 44:42line in my book. But but yeah, this doesn't mean that they're not
- 44:46going to scare you in some way. You know. I've said that a
- 44:51lot of times, just especially when people going on investigations, when you think
- 44:54you're going out just like you know, you and your team were out there
- 44:58in the woods or whatever wherever you go, and all that stuff. You
- 45:01need to get in your mind. You need to get your mindset right.
- 45:06You need to get yourself prepared spiritually for going into an investigation and coming out
- 45:12of one as well, that's just as important. It's coming out, maybe
- 45:16more important than going in. Sometimes it's coming out of me. You've got
- 45:21to get yourself spiritually ready for it and mind wise, you've got to have
- 45:27that mindset. That's very, very important. Without a doubt it is.
- 45:35And I have the head of one of my teams in the chat, my
- 45:37buddy Trey Hudson, is in here today. Ay, Trey, we have
- 45:42a lot of interesting things going on here. We go out and do the
- 45:45Meadow project. Okay, we work on the Meadow project together along with other
- 45:49projects. We're out there researching all of the woods, all the mountains.
- 45:53But yeah, we've had some screen memory situations and as Tree will tell you,
- 46:00Dennis, a lot of times when we're out in the woods, it's
- 46:01just as important to pay attention to let's just say, when you go to
- 46:06sleep, pay attention to your dreams. When you're out in the field doing
- 46:09this research and you're around these cryptids, you're around things like potentially spearfinger.
- 46:15We had an incident out at the meadow one weekend where one of our teammates
- 46:20we all we all went to sleep one night after we'd had some pretty major
- 46:22activity going on. We had done a CE five protocol out in the meadow.
- 46:28We went to sleep and we well, maybe we didn't think as much
- 46:31happened to us as probably did, because there could have been some scream memories
- 46:37involved. Who knows, But one of our teammates went to sleep and had
- 46:39had a dream about I believe Trey can correct me if I'm wrong, but
- 46:44I think it was Knox Arcana. Okay, was this name that came up
- 46:46in his dream, and so he had never even heard that name before.
- 46:51But Trey and the team did some research on it, and it turns out
- 46:54it was like the goddess of the night or goddess of the moon or something
- 46:59like that. I forgot, Trey. You'll have to tell me. Knox
- 47:02Magby. Knox Magby, that was it. And uh and it was almost
- 47:06like the goddess of the little people of the night. That's what this thing
- 47:09was or something. You have to tell me, Trey. And the comments
- 47:12over here so I can remember. But but you have to you have to
- 47:15pay attention to all this stuff because it's it's going to lead you to the
- 47:21answers you're looking for. When you pay attention to things like your dreams and
- 47:23stuff like that, especially out in the field. And another aspect we've got
- 47:29to think about, Jessica, these things know you are looking for them.
- 47:32Okay, they know you're looking for them, so you definitely have their attention
- 47:39for good or bad. So don't forget that you've already got their attention.
- 47:44And when you get something's attention, you can usually get actions behind it.
- 47:49So you have to be very very careful, definitely, and understand that while
- 47:53you're dating with maybe not you might be looking for it, it may be
- 47:58also looking for you. The hunter becomes und in certain stances like that.
- 48:04That's a very interesting aspect of that. I've actually had things happen to me
- 48:07out in the forest that are very freaky in that respect. It's almost as
- 48:13if that intelligence is in play against you in just little ways, nothing real
- 48:20big, sometimes little ways that they can affect you. So you're dealing with
- 48:25an intelligence without any doubt whatever level they may be on it. I think
- 48:31sometimes it's only high level of that. Our intellligence, Yeah, exactly,
- 48:38we're able to manifest. Okay, you can manifest experiences. Ask me how
- 48:45I know, and I'm going to I'm going to put let's see which which
- 48:50one can I do? Okay? How about the how about the etis in
- 48:52my home? Okay? I've had at least two encounters with etis Okay,
- 48:58up close and personal. And I was not dreaming. Okay, it wasn't
- 49:02a dream. It was real. Okay, I saw it. It was
- 49:07very real to me. And I had just been told to start studying alien
- 49:12abductions. Okay, so this is something that had never even been in front
- 49:15of you before. I had just started learning, going out and doing big
- 49:19foot filled research with my team. We had some incidences in the Appalachian Mountains
- 49:23that involved low flying Ufo, sasquatch, and potentially some other cryptan activity,
- 49:30and so we I guess it was kind of agreed upon that we could have
- 49:36had potentially an abduction experience out there while we were searching for sasquatch, and
- 49:40so I started studying that and so I was open to it. It was
- 49:45almost like, I think that I was on that frequency. And that's why
- 49:47I'm saying like when it comes to Spearfinger and some of these local legends and
- 49:52lore, especially in the Appalachian Mountains, once you get on that frequency,
- 49:55once you become aware of it, it might become more real, like maybe
- 50:00it is there on some sort of a frequency. You just got to attune
- 50:04to it. Because when I started reading on alien abductions with books like The
- 50:08Threat Communion Whitley Striber's books, Okay, I started having experiences with ets in
- 50:16my home. Okay, I never had that before, not that I knew
- 50:21of it. Now maybe I had, but I just was not aware of
- 50:22it because I wasn't on that frequency. Who knows. It's the interesting thought
- 50:28though, And you know, here's interesting thing, Jessica. A lot of
- 50:31people talking about manifestation. Okay, manifestation is not creation. Okay, you're
- 50:37not actually creating something here. Manifestation actually, in my book, is a
- 50:45fault energy that you're sending out and you're thinking about that thing, and that
- 50:50thing is already there. It picks up on this and it uses that doll
- 50:54energy to manifest itself. In that respect, that's what you run into a
- 51:00lot, I think, especially in places like the forest and what you're done
- 51:04about and all that, some of these things may be using you to manifest
- 51:08themselves with in that respect. Well, our bodies are like batteries to a
- 51:15lot of these. I mean, okay, think of it in terms of
- 51:19energy vampires. When you go into a room, if you go to let's,
- 51:22I always use the term. I always use the example of Walmart.
- 51:25Okay, you go into WALLR. I mean, you can go in anywhere,
- 51:29you can go into your job, and there's like there's certain people.
- 51:31But you can go to a family dinner okay, and there are certain people
- 51:36who you get around them and you feel like your energy is completely wiped out
- 51:40when you get done interacting with these people. With these people, it's not
- 51:45your your energy just feels dreamed. Well, that's because your body is like
- 51:49a battery. You're a life force. And there's some people that will just
- 51:52take all that energy and use it for themselves. And you'll notice that they
- 51:54walk away skipping and jumping and feeling good, and you're left there needing a
- 51:59nap. Okay, because those people have taken your energy from you. Absolutely
- 52:04I agree with that, And I've seen instance with that happening, you know,
- 52:08And that's like that old saying, Oh what I greatly feared is happened
- 52:13to me. Uh, the thought process put that in action, you know,
- 52:17that's what happened. Uh, You're you're you're doing some kind of action
- 52:22there, especially, I think a little more or less long on sort of
- 52:24a spiritual level, you know, in that respect. So you're you're basically
- 52:30you're definitely going to have some stuff happened, without doubt. Oh yeah,
- 52:37for sure, for sure. Now John John has has a comment here.
- 52:42Okay, so there was a mentioned earlier of OL's as important and linked with
- 52:45Sasquatch. They're also a common alien encounter screen memory. Absolutely yes, because
- 52:51you had mentioned did you mention the OL people or something like that. I
- 52:53can't remember if you mentioned that earlier, but Alice with Sasquatch, I have
- 53:00to wonder. Now I've done a lot of research on the production and all
- 53:04that introduction, all that, I have to wonder how much of this are
- 53:07implanted memories put there for reasons to deceive us. You know, you had
- 53:13to wonder about that as as well. But the thing about owls, you
- 53:16know, owls are very spiritual type creatures in that respect. You have many
- 53:22legends. Look at Harry Potter and the owls that deliver messages and all this
- 53:27stuff ours go way by. You know, there's an old Cherokee legend that
- 53:30if you hear an owl for seven nights in a row, then you were
- 53:35going to die. Okay, that's it. So ours were considered a very
- 53:39bad potent, a very harvinguer of death in that respect, and there was
- 53:47sort of a link between us and the spirit world in that respect. I'll
- 53:53show up, I'll show up, and a lot of stuff and it's not
- 53:58And here's the weird thing about owls. It's not just the Cherokee, it's
- 54:01not just the American natives. It is worldwide in many cultures the owl.
- 54:08Look at the the the patron spirit animal of Athena, the goddess of wisdom,
- 54:15was the owl. And they're supposedly an owl hidden on the dollar bill.
- 54:21I should see you that sometimes. Anyway, there's a lot of symbol
- 54:25symbolic stuff connected with the just like the ravens and you know the raven mocker
- 54:32we talked about earlier, and the eagles and the hawks. These are they
- 54:37are flying animals, birds of prey. They considered almost spiritual in that respect.
- 54:45Very interesting stuff. Okay, I just had a thought I found I
- 54:50came across this picture. Okay, So Dennis, you know, you know,
- 54:52being the crypton hunters, people send me weird stuff, okay, super
- 54:55weird stuff. And I came across this picture in my phone. Yes,
- 55:00it was just yesterday, and it was of a It was screenshots from a
- 55:04video from being out in the woods. And this woman woke up hearing noises
- 55:08in her tent, and so she opened up her tent and she kind of
- 55:12she took her camera out and was filming, just did a quick sweep of
- 55:16the surrounding area and thought, well, maybe there's a bigfoot. Maybe I'll
- 55:21get it on camera. And then she she zipped her tin up and went
- 55:24back to sleep. The next morning, she got up and she was looking
- 55:28at that camera footage and the video footage, and there was a gigantic what
- 55:34looked like it looked like a naked man to me, but it also looked
- 55:38like an owl, like a gigantic human humanoid owl in the in the fork
- 55:45of the tree. I'll get that picture, I'll say, if I can
- 55:46find it. Okay, I think it's in my phone because I just saw
- 55:49it, and I thought, man, that'd make for a great remote viewing
- 55:52target. Okay, But but there's also these like gigantic owls, right have
- 55:57you heard of these giant owls that look. I mean, I guess I
- 56:01couldn't look at human late at night. Nonetheless, it was creepy, okay,
- 56:06no matter if it was a naked man or an owl, I don't
- 56:08know. Oh yeah, there's they're a very famous story about the owl man
- 56:14in England, which I think it's the men in man in England. It
- 56:19was in a church. I'm supposedly seeing my several people. It was sort
- 56:22of like our equivalent tom off men. Uh. And you know, if
- 56:28its circumstances are right in the dark, it would not be that hard to
- 56:32misconstrue hawk men and an ol man, okay, because they look very much
- 56:37alike in my little you know, owl don't have much of a neck by
- 56:40the way, they looked a lot like I'm off if you look at them
- 56:44in that respect. So you have to wonder if there's not some misconstruing stuff
- 56:49going on with that. But anyway, there's a lot of stories of owl
- 56:52men supposed to being seen. There's very famous one that was in Georgia where
- 56:57these people encountered one along a bike road somewhere I thinking Georgia actually helps showed
- 57:05up in their headlights of a truck and they had collaborational. I think somebody
- 57:09was behind them has seen the same thing, and this thing was huge.
- 57:14I mean, we're not talking about that little bird in the middle of the
- 57:16road. We're talking about something very very big, very unusual. And from
- 57:21my own zelf, I have had some very strange interaction with owls during several
- 57:27investigations that I've had. When there should not have been owls, there there
- 57:31were. And one was almost like I remember coming out of the house one
- 57:36night. It was after a very demonic case. I come out and I
- 57:42hear something. I look up and sitting on the very top of the roof
- 57:45of this house the biggest owl I have ever seen. He was huge,
- 57:49big owl, and he was like looking at me. And I took that
- 57:54this meeting a sign maybe of something spiritual going on. In that respect,
- 57:59I've had some very freaky encounters with owls over the years, so I have
- 58:04to wonder there's not a definite spiritual connection with some of that. There's got
- 58:10to be a lot of people say that when you know they'll be out in
- 58:14the woods at night or driving down the road. My cousin Jesse, who's
- 58:16really into the big doing the Bigfoot art, who made the Gigantic Muscadine Bigfoot
- 58:22in front of Expedition Bigfoot in Cherry Loge, Georgia the Bigfoot Museum. Okay,
- 58:25so, so Jesse and his mom were driving. I hope he doesn't
- 58:29mind me telling the story. He and his mom were driving home late one
- 58:32night. They lived on a bad way, deep in the back roads of
- 58:36the county that we grew up in, and they were driving home down their
- 58:39long driveway in the woods one night, and they said that there were two
- 58:45big white owls in the tree. These white owls are not native to this
- 58:51part of Georgia that I know of, but two big owls. Think it
- 58:54was like a mama and a baby, a big one in a small because
- 58:58he I think he's painted them before in artwork. But it was just really
- 59:01odd. And see, and Jesse is much like me in his family.
- 59:06We've had a lot of strange encounters our entire lives with other worldly beings.
- 59:13Let's just say. And uh, and so to me, you know,
- 59:15we we think we kind of decided that was probably a screen memory of potentially
- 59:21even an abduction experience. And uh. And so that's that's kind of the
- 59:25connection that a lot of people make especially to white house being seen late at
- 59:30night. Here's another Here's another thing, Jessica. Very much like Spearfinger.
- 59:34You have Latusa. You ever heard of Lachusa the witch they are, which
- 59:39she is a witch woman that can take the form of a gigantic owl and
- 59:45she loves to eat young children. Lachusa very interesting legend, very much like
- 59:52Spearfinger in that respect. Uh. She's kind of a listic and a witch.
- 59:58And the only way that you can destroy her supposed to just shoot her
- 1:00:00was rock salt. Blessed rock salt to get rid of her. Hey,
- 1:00:06I have the perfect weapon. I have a bug of salt gun. There
- 1:00:10you go. Everybody's a bug a salt gun. Thank you, Jeff,
- 1:00:15Jeff Townsend. I don't know if he's watching to day. Jeff Jeff gifted
- 1:00:17my son with the bug as sault man. And let me tell you,
- 1:00:21that is the most entertaining thing. And it's it's yeah, especially in Georgia
- 1:00:24when we have nants and stuff. Don't let your kids shoot it in your
- 1:00:29house. Though my entire house was covered in salt Okay for a while,
- 1:00:32where he was trying to shoot little bugs on my bathroom mirror and stuff.
- 1:00:36You know. We live out in the country, y'all, so always I
- 1:00:39have a box full of twelve gage shotgun shells at are full blessed rock salt.
- 1:00:45Okay, just in case. Well, I need to start getting the
- 1:00:51rock salt blessed. Now, can we bless the salt or do we have
- 1:00:53a ticket to like a priest? Where do we get this rock soft blessed?
- 1:00:58Dennis? Yeah, Well, rock salt is you know, basically the
- 1:01:01salt of the Earth's real salt, like sea salt, which is the only
- 1:01:06things I use and blessing and cleansing ceremonies. The table salt is usually not
- 1:01:12real stuff, but the real the real deal is rock salt and sea salt.
- 1:01:17Definitely. Oh yeah, okay, Okay, here's here's another thing we're
- 1:01:23not We're not going to get on this topic today, but maybe in the
- 1:01:25future. I've heard that Himalayan rock salt like Himalayan rocks, like the lamps
- 1:01:31that we all have. A lot of us have those pink lamps. I
- 1:01:34have a big white one too. They say that that that is like the
- 1:01:37fat or the thins, like fat out of the Titans. Okay, like
- 1:01:43it may not be what we think it is. It might actually be a
- 1:01:46body part of a of a giant titan from a long time ago. But
- 1:01:50like I said, that's that's a whole other topic for a whole other show.
- 1:01:53We're going to go there one day, y'all. Just wait, we're
- 1:01:55going there. But yeah, it's interesting. Himalayan salt is supposed to have
- 1:02:01magical properties to it. Matter of fact, I have one of those lamps.
- 1:02:06It's supposed to be a calming, spiritual, cleansing type of a thing
- 1:02:12about it. Uh, Himalayan salt is very interesting. There again, you're
- 1:02:17dealing with the true salt of the earth. They're not man made components chemical
- 1:02:23stuff. Yes, I like moon at Noon's comment, make your own holy
- 1:02:30water. Just boil the hell out of it. That's an ox that's an
- 1:02:36oxmoron there or something, I guess. But anyway, Uh, that would
- 1:02:39be one of the There is a formula. There is a formula for true
- 1:02:44holy water. I'll have to go over that someday, but there is.
- 1:02:49And I've had people ask me can I drink it? I said, no,
- 1:02:52no, no, that's not a good idea to do that. It's
- 1:02:53what it's for topical use only, Okay, don't drink it. Uh,
- 1:03:00how good that? But real holy water has oil lest all salt and like
- 1:03:06rosemary or something in it. I don't know if it would kill you,
- 1:03:10but I don't think it would say good on your stomach. No, Okay,
- 1:03:15well we have another question from John. Have I ever been done a
- 1:03:20hypnotic regression around what I believe to be screen memories? I have. I
- 1:03:24have done one before, a long time ago, and but no I have.
- 1:03:30I have not done any lately, and I've had a lot of activity
- 1:03:32since then. So when it's time, I will and very actually very little
- 1:03:38to tonight. We're just talking about that this past week. So he actually
- 1:03:43does hypnotic regressions for a living, so it's shocking that I have not done
- 1:03:47that yet with him. So we'll probably do that one day and I may
- 1:03:52or may not make a report with you guys on that. Okay. A
- 1:03:57lot of research done on hypnosis regression, and it's very interesting. I've heard
- 1:04:01a lot of tapes on it. I've never actually done it myself, but
- 1:04:05I've seen it done. But here's another thing about that, and that's what
- 1:04:11I say. When something happens to you, it's very important that you write
- 1:04:15every bit of it down immediately. Don't let it go down in your memory.
- 1:04:21It's very important that you make a record of it because the memory,
- 1:04:25the human mind is funny that way. We tend to forget little important things
- 1:04:30as time goes on. So it's very very important. And I've told this
- 1:04:33to a lot of people. If anything happens, see whatever it may be,
- 1:04:38write down and write everything what you were feeling, what if the sun
- 1:04:42was shining, Be as specific as possible, so because you can lose a
- 1:04:47lot of that the memory over time, and you don't want to do that.
- 1:04:51And that's why when we're out in the field doing our field research,
- 1:04:56each person on my team has a notepad. Now, Bob Grumpy, my
- 1:05:00buddy Bob gave all of us little little notepads to write down the date,
- 1:05:04the time, any little thing that we're experiencing. When we're out there doing
- 1:05:09our research. We write it all down. And I have a big notebook
- 1:05:14that I've kept all of my all of my papers in. I will write
- 1:05:16a book one day, I really will, okay, because I've already got
- 1:05:20my book. I got volumes of books written just from all the research that
- 1:05:23we've done. Because it's important to write that down so you don't forget anything,
- 1:05:28because that's where these even with the screen, memories and things can come
- 1:05:31in. It's your your Your mind is a very interesting thing. Okay,
- 1:05:35you can start having false memories, you can remember things differently, but if
- 1:05:40you write it down, write when it happens, you can't forget that.
- 1:05:45You can't forget. They do that on ships. You know, you had
- 1:05:49a long book, you have flight logs. Even when you fly. You
- 1:05:56need to have everything written down or record it. If you don't want to
- 1:05:59write, at least recording of the recorder. Okay, if you need to
- 1:06:03do it, but it must be taken down. It's very, very essential
- 1:06:06because you can forget things. The mind just does that to us, do
- 1:06:11all of us eventually, especially as time passes. But you know what,
- 1:06:16you may find a whole host of stuff may may hand you on one little
- 1:06:21thing you forgot, you know, So that's why it's so important to record
- 1:06:26it all. Definitely, it is. It is, And I'm going to
- 1:06:30try to remember to post that picture of that owl looking being in that tree.
- 1:06:34I think it's important. I think we should definitely look into that.
- 1:06:38And you guys can give me your idea of what you think it is,
- 1:06:41and hey, Driwsky, what's up y'all? Go check out cryptid Warfare on
- 1:06:45YouTube and all over social media podcasts. He just did a fantastic show with
- 1:06:49Zuke yesterday that they posted it. It's about fielled researchers versus armchair researchers,
- 1:06:56and it's actually really informative, So you guys go check that out, please,
- 1:07:00please do. Now, the name of that owl witch that's I forgot
- 1:07:04that, it's uh, let's let's choose a. Let's choose a? Is
- 1:07:08that the same? It sounds it sounds kind of like what that that thing
- 1:07:13could have been in that tree that I saw. I'm not that I not
- 1:07:15that I saw personally that I saw in that video that I'm gonna try to
- 1:07:18remember to put out for you guys today after the show's over. It could
- 1:07:24have been that. It could have been that. You just imagine, you
- 1:07:27know, a lot of people when they go camping, they don't think about
- 1:07:30how they have one little piece of thin material separating from them when they're sleeping
- 1:07:34in their tent, from things like sasquatch and these owl witches and all this
- 1:07:39stuff. So I'm just saying, just be prepared, y'all if you're go
- 1:07:42on camping and stuff. I don't want to scary. I want to encourage
- 1:07:44all of you to go camping. Yeah, just to be aware of your
- 1:07:48surrounding. Okay, that's actually I'm not gonna lie. That's why I I
- 1:07:51whenever I take my son camping, we sleep in the back of my truck
- 1:07:55with the doors locked. Okay, yeah, in some of these places.
- 1:08:01So I've said that a lot of you know, I've said that a lot
- 1:08:03of times, Jessica. When you go out in the woods, it's not
- 1:08:06walking into your living room. You don't know a lot to expect out into
- 1:08:10the worst. You could run into anything, So we always expect unexpected.
- 1:08:15You won't be disappointed. That's right. That's right. Well, this this
- 1:08:20has been such a fantastic conversation today, Dennis. Thank you so much for
- 1:08:25all of your insight on this. And I'm going to be tuning into your
- 1:08:29channel tonight. Tell the audience what you've got going on tonight. Okay,
- 1:08:32Well, tonight at eight o'clock Easdard time on the Huntingly Shadows YouTube channel,
- 1:08:39I'm gonna be doing a two hour seminar on the Nephlum Children of the Fallen.
- 1:08:45We're gonna cover some very interesting ground here that's gonna go back into prehistoric
- 1:08:53times unto how it relates in our modern world today. So that's Nephlim Children
- 1:09:00of the Fallen. You don't want to miss this. This is some very
- 1:09:02very important information and some insight on some stuff. I think you're gonna hear
- 1:09:09some things you've never heard before without a doubt. So that will be the
- 1:09:13night at eight o'clock, two hour seminar, and we'll be taking questions at
- 1:09:15the end, and so get your questions ready. And if you if you
- 1:09:20haven't already, subscribe to Hunting the Shadows podcast channel and uh YouTube channel.
- 1:09:29And also we have a paranormal point of view on Friday night today eight o'clock
- 1:09:35and uh so we have some interesting stuff on that coming up. As a
- 1:09:39matter of fact, I think I'm gonna be talking this Friday night on inhuman
- 1:09:43underground dwellers, a very interesting topic. So that should be interested to So
- 1:09:49don't forget that's tonight though at eight a cloud you should spend your time for
- 1:09:54the Nephe Children of the Fallen. Well, I'm gonna be here. I
- 1:10:00know you guys are going to be there. I love your seminars. Whenever
- 1:10:04you talk, I'm all ears. I love being there. And also if
- 1:10:09you like more information on Dennis, you can also go to his website.
- 1:10:11That's Dennis W. Carrol dot com. Okay, so please show your support,
- 1:10:16y'all. Y'all show up tonight and hang out with me in the in
- 1:10:19the chat tonight, Dennis. I can't wait. It's always a wonderful time
- 1:10:25when you're here. Is there any final thoughts on on the Cherokee legends that
- 1:10:30we talked about today? Any any final thoughts? Dennis? Well, I
- 1:10:34just say keep your red tailed hawk feather handy, justin gaze and if you're
- 1:10:41going to aim for or aim for the hand, that's where a heart is.
- 1:10:44Their hearts in hand. So if you run into spear finger, best
- 1:10:49thing to do is try to avoid running into Spiffinger all together completely. But
- 1:10:55if you do, whatever you do, don't look in your eyes and all
- 1:10:57that stuff. So the Cherokee, I won't tell you what the one thing
- 1:11:00that I like about the Chokey people and their folklore there were highly spiritual people
- 1:11:08with out of that yes, yes, And you guys put on your full
- 1:11:13armor of God every day as well, wear your stone coat, especially when
- 1:11:16you go to Walmart. Okay, I love it all right, everybody.
- 1:11:20I have a wonderful day. Thank you so much for being here, Thank
- 1:11:24you for the super cigaret to day, and you guys please come back and
- 1:11:27see me tomorrow night. I have been working some remote viewing targets. Gosh,
- 1:11:31I've been remote viewing my booty off lately this week, and so I've
- 1:11:36got a couple of targets I've done for Barry. I don't know what they
- 1:11:40are yet, but I can tell you they are really interesting. So we'll
- 1:11:44be setting that show up probably tonight, and so you guys come see me
- 1:11:47tomorrow night at eight pm here at the Crypted Hunter's channel. Also come see
- 1:11:53Dennis tonight at eight pm on his channel, Hunting the Shadows. And then
- 1:11:58of course I'll be back this weekend on Sunday. It's based out radio.
- 1:12:00You guys, have a wonderful day, Dennis, have a great show tonight,
- 1:12:03and I will see you guys later on y'all. Stay safe out there.
- 1:12:09Bye bye, Dennis, Bye bye bye. Really is mainly made pleas