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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football vs Oaklahoma State Game Recap (Episode 742) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome on in. It is time for three guys before
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  Speaker 2: the game, the Oklahoma State game recap, episode number 742.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us. The boys are in. We'll
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  Speaker 2: break it all down. Spreads on stats, hoppies, obvious observations,
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  Speaker 2: and a few other things, plus textual healing. Let's jump
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  Speaker 2: All righty, so here we go. West Virginia falls 41-24
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  Speaker 2: in its Big 12 conference opener. WVU suffers its first
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  Speaker 2: loss of the season. They are now 3-1. The Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: are now 3-1 on the campaign. The first month of
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  Speaker 2: the season is over. That means a third of the season,
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  Speaker 2: four out of your 12 games are over.
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  Speaker 3: How did that happen?
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  Speaker 2: Man, it goes. And so now West Virginia will play
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  Speaker 2: its first Big 12 road game Saturday high noon here
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  Speaker 2: in the east, 11 a.m. back in Iowa coming up
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday. We'll get into all of that in the
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  Speaker 2: course of the next several days. But for today, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to jump right on in on a I think
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  Speaker 2: you can use a bunch of different words to describe
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  Speaker 2: the game. Obviously, the D word comes in very quickly.
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  Speaker 2: That's disappointing. I think the U-word also can come into
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  Speaker 2: play in this game, and that is unique.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll get into those numbers, but my gracious, West
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  Speaker 2: Virginia had 29 first downs. 29 first downs. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to be worth a look. Tell me the last time
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia had 29 first downs and lost.
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  Speaker 1: I did, coming up in spreads.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I want to hear it. I want to hear it.
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  Speaker 2: Just a bunch of different stuff. And so what did
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  Speaker 2: we learn? What do we have? Let's jump on in
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  Speaker 2: and waste no time because old Kirchival over there, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I could see he's on his haunches. Like he's so giddy,
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  Speaker 2: like that puppy that's getting ready for a treat. Go, go.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to do his obvious observations.
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  Speaker 3: And you guys can jump in on these. He's got
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  Speaker 3: thoughts that sound brand new, but they're things we already knew.
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  Speaker 1: He's got his whip bomb ready, heaven knows. Let's make
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  Speaker 1: it quick before his bladder blows. It's Hoppy's Obvious Observations.
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  Speaker 2: Hoppy's Obvious Observations, sponsored by no one. No one.
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  Speaker 3: Tony, in 1848... Gold was discovered at Sutter's Mill in California.
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  Speaker 3: And that caused the gold rush. Tens of thousands of
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  Speaker 3: people rushed to California to seek their fortune. Brad, almost
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  Speaker 3: all of them were disappointed. The gold rush failed for
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  Speaker 3: most people. That's the analogy to last night. The gold rush.
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  Speaker 3: What a crowd was there last night. Everybody in gold.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody psyched after the Virginia game. And you end up
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  Speaker 3: with just massive disappointment. Because... You thought the treasure was there.
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  Speaker 3: It was right there. Can you grab it? And you didn't.
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  Speaker 3: So massive disappointment, a major gold rush, fail. And the
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  Speaker 3: word disappointment keeps coming back to me because you could
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  Speaker 3: tell from the Virginia game that everybody was giddy and thinking, oh,
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  Speaker 3: here we go. We've seen what they can do. And
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  Speaker 3: now you replicate that. But they didn't. And that, I think,
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  Speaker 3: made it worse. This was a competitive game of two
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  Speaker 3: evenly matched teams until it wasn't. First half, early third quarter. Oh, okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: These are pretty. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Who's going to have the ball last? And then, you
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  Speaker 3: could then, from about, you know, early third quarter on,
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  Speaker 3: you could just feel it, Tony, slipping away. Slipping away. What,
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  Speaker 3: five consecutive scores? by Oak State, and you couldn't stop them.
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  Speaker 3: You could not stop them. They were 2 of 10
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  Speaker 3: on third down. And normally, if you just looked at that,
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  Speaker 3: you'd go, oh, boy, because they didn't need third down.
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  Speaker 3: They made big plays on first and second down. So, Brad,
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  Speaker 3: you'll get into this, but just a lot of weird
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  Speaker 3: stats that came up in that game. Brad, question for you.
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  Speaker 3: What happens when a good quarterback has time?
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  Speaker 1: Usually doesn't turn out well for the defense. Complete passes.
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  Speaker 3: How many passes?
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  Speaker 2: A lot.
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  Speaker 3: A lot. For how many yards?
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  Speaker 2: A lot last night.
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  Speaker 3: To how many guys?
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  Speaker 1: Well, one in particular, but multiple.
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  Speaker 3: Just like eight West Virginia alive. His passer, I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to get in your zone, but his passer efficiency
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  Speaker 3: rating was 224.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, it was the, and yeah, we will talk some
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  Speaker 1: more numbers with him, but it was the one thing
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  Speaker 1: we were most worried about in terms of two parts
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  Speaker 1: of it. Could West Virginia cover? Against Virginia, the style matched.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia could stop the run. Virginia was afraid to
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  Speaker 1: throw it against West Virginia. We knew that wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to be the case this time, and we talked about
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  Speaker 1: being able to cover, especially in the underneath. I'll get
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  Speaker 1: to the surprise of the passing game coming up. But
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  Speaker 1: the fact that you couldn't get home on him at all,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll have some pressure stats or lack thereof, the
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  Speaker 1: fact you never made him uncomfortable. And he was really good, guys.
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  Speaker 2: He was good.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, we've been talking about he got the July Heisman.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's been all over that. He was as advertised, and
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia did nothing to make him uncomfortable. And I
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  Speaker 1: thought if you were niching it down to one thing
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  Speaker 1: that changed the game, it was that. He did whatever
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  Speaker 1: he wanted, whenever he wanted, all night long.
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  Speaker 3: And, Tony, I think that in your postgame, you were
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  Speaker 3: talking about this, and the big plays. You know, Young,
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  Speaker 3: almost 200 receiving yards. He had a long of 48.
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  Speaker 3: Barnes had a long of 52. Coleman had a long
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  Speaker 3: of 28. Lewis had a long of 27. Boak had
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  Speaker 3: a long of 21. You don't see that. You don't
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  Speaker 3: see that many guys have that many big plays.
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  Speaker 1: And especially on Oklahoma State's team, that is not what
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  Speaker 1: they did. right coming in they had not done that.
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  Speaker 3: And so the passing game was just again obvious was
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  Speaker 3: really on target you go well okay at least you
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  Speaker 3: stopped the run but you didn't because Caleb Hawkins had
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  Speaker 3: a game I mean he was really good he had
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  Speaker 3: what 180 180 31 times they were just and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know I'll rely on you guys to say how
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  Speaker 3: much was this West Virginia breaking down and and not
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  Speaker 3: not being able to execute defensively especially, and how much
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  Speaker 3: is this like Oklahoma State was really efficient for much
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  Speaker 3: of that game. Here's a weird stat I said. Just
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  Speaker 3: two of ten on third down. You've got to fix
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  Speaker 3: that defense fast. You're going to have good quarterbacks you're
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  Speaker 3: going to have to play in this league. You've got
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  Speaker 3: Fafita at Arizona, Dampier at Utah, Wegman at Houston. So
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  Speaker 3: you've got some challenges coming up with that pass defense.
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  Speaker 3: And I said before the game, Tony, I said I
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  Speaker 3: was worried about relief syndrome.
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  Speaker 2: You did bring it up.
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  Speaker 3: I did bring it up. That after the Virginia game,
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  Speaker 3: you think, okay, that performance is how you will play
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  Speaker 3: in the next game. But we know the disclaimer, past
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  Speaker 3: performance is not indicative of future results. So that's what
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  Speaker 3: came into play.
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  Speaker 1: Week-to-week business.
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  Speaker 2: But to me, two different things there. Relief syndrome connotates
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  Speaker 2: that you would come out flat. West Virginia did not
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  Speaker 2: come out flat. West Virginia played with great emotion and
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  Speaker 2: great intensity. There's a difference. Okay. They didn't lollygag around.
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  Speaker 2: They just got outplayed. It wasn't a lack of effort.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lack, unfortunately, of being able to do
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  Speaker 2: the job at hand. So to me, there's a difference.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed. Guys, quite frankly, there was a time in the
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  Speaker 1: second half you had a win probability near 80%. It
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  Speaker 1: got away. You mentioned the number. The last five drives is,
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  Speaker 1: to me, what was so alarming. Well, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Two other points, and that is that, okay, there's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a lot of bad news today and a
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  Speaker 3: huge bad vibe, but I can find a hint of optimism,
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  Speaker 3: not necessarily in this game, because you saw in Virginia,
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  Speaker 3: you saw playmakers, you saw the ability to make plays.
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  Speaker 3: You still saw Hawkins be able to make plays. You
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  Speaker 3: still saw Cam Cook, who had a big game, be
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  Speaker 3: able to make plays. So you know it's there. It's
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  Speaker 3: not like other teams where you go, you were looking
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  Speaker 3: around going, wow, there's no guys to make plays. You
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  Speaker 3: know there's guys that can make plays, and they made
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  Speaker 3: some plays in that game. So you just gotta... to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, fix that past defense and that past rush and,
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  Speaker 3: and you'll be better. So it's not, you can't be
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  Speaker 3: a prisoner of the moment. Just like, Oh, all, all
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  Speaker 3: is lost. I don't feel that way at all. I
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  Speaker 3: feel severely disappointed, but certainly not that all is lost
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  Speaker 3: because you still have playmakers that you saw in that game. offensively,
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  Speaker 3: and in the Virginia game. And finally, Tony, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I had my boys in, and we were on the field,
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  Speaker 3: and we had great seats and watched the game. WVU
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  Speaker 3: does a really good job with the whole game atmosphere.
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  Speaker 3: Really good.
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  Speaker 2: Game day entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: I thought game day entertainment yesterday, that was, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't weigh into this discussion very much anymore. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was excellent.
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  Speaker 3: It was high level.
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  Speaker 1: I thought last night was really good. Music was good.
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  Speaker 1: People were moving, dancing. That was really good.
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  Speaker 3: The pride, you know, the videos, the fireworks, the light sticks,
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  Speaker 3: the acknowledgement of university teams. The 81 Peach Bowl team
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  Speaker 3: was there. The crowd was electric. I mean, and the crowd, Tony,
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  Speaker 3: several times made a difference.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Made a difference.
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  Speaker 2: Got a couple of penalties.
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  Speaker 3: Got a couple of penalties. And props to Oklahoma State
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  Speaker 3: for handling that. You know, that was a tough environment
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  Speaker 3: for them. All these new players, road game, they handled it.
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  Speaker 3: So props to them for that. But I do think
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  Speaker 3: that the game day execution by the university was outstanding.
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  Speaker 3: And the crowd, if you could have just– man, the
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  Speaker 3: crowd was just electric.
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  Speaker 2: It was ready. It was ready.
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  Speaker 3: So there you go. That's what I got.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously, there are no, as you look at the
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  Speaker 2: rest of this schedule, man, like, There's opportunities still. You've
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  Speaker 2: got opportunities sitting in front of you. You just got
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  Speaker 2: to fix stuff. And now this is the ultimate moment.
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  Speaker 2: And we always kind of kid about this in a
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  Speaker 2: preseason when you hear interviews with players. Best chemistry I've
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  Speaker 2: ever seen. Everyone's together. Well, guess what? Now you've got
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  Speaker 2: your first adversity of the season. And now you will learn.
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  Speaker 2: Now you will learn what you need to learn about
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  Speaker 2: everyone starts at the same level of optimism. And then
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: things don't necessarily go always right. You know why? Because
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  Speaker 2: every time there's a game, someone has to lose. And
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  Speaker 2: so there's teams that are dealing with what West Virginia
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  Speaker 2: is dealing with right now. And now the question becomes,
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  Speaker 2: how do you take that, learn from it as a staff,
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  Speaker 2: as players, and can you make yourself better? We strongly
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  Speaker 2: believe that you can, we've seen that. And so to me,
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  Speaker 2: the one question I had going into yesterday's game, and
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  Speaker 2: I said this was the first three games, you did
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  Speaker 2: not play a team that had a passing attack that
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: had adult supervision, right? You didn't, you did. That was
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  Speaker 2: going to be the first test. And obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 2: first test of the year, you failed the test, but
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: you know what? You get to take more tests. You
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: get a chance to get better. So now the coaches
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  Speaker 2: will tweak and adjust based upon what they have, and
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  Speaker 2: you see where you go from here. Should we do
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  Speaker 2: some spreads on this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was waiting for music. I had a comment there,
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  Speaker 1: but I was waiting for the music. Go music, and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll dive in.
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  Speaker 2: You wanted a comment. Now you need a music over
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  Speaker 2: bet for your comment. Okay, well, let's give it.
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  Speaker 1: Because we'll just dive into it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just go.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear these.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can talk between the numbers. Let's do music.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to music.
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  Speaker 1: So I checked the numbers. We'll just go right to
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  Speaker 1: the numbers. Here comes a heater.
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  Speaker 1: You guys have talked about some phrases here this morning,
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  Speaker 1: and I agree with both of what or all of
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  Speaker 1: what both of you have said. You know, Hop, if
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  Speaker 1: you were doing this as the game show, the old
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  Speaker 1: Family Feud game show.
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  Speaker 2: Richard Dawson.
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  Speaker 1: Richard Dawson was the original host, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: He was on Hogan's Heroes.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, West Virginia native, did that for a while
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  Speaker 1: as well. If you were doing the top two phrases
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  Speaker 1: that described last night's game, survey would say, boom, you
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  Speaker 1: hit the thing, disappointment would be number one. I think
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  Speaker 1: that you're right. That's an overarching theme of that for
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  Speaker 1: all of the reasons you outlined. You're 3-0, you're returning
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  Speaker 1: home against a program that that is totally remaking itself,
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  Speaker 1: and you get a night game, and it's a gold rush,
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  Speaker 1: and the atmosphere was great, and you had it lined up.
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  Speaker 1: So disappointment, I think, is the overarching, overwhelming number one
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  Speaker 1: answer on the board. The second phrase for me, and
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  Speaker 1: it happens, it pertains to the overall arching theme of
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  Speaker 1: the night and the game itself, would be missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a big missed opportunity to move
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  Speaker 1: the program forward when you had a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: in your favor.
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  Speaker 2: Agreed.
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  Speaker 1: And then missed opportunity within the game. That offense, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to some, Tony, you're right, some staggering numbers. that
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  Speaker 1: you did offensively that normally are benchmarks for wins, and
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  Speaker 1: you just couldn't get over the hump, and you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get a stop when you needed it or enough stops
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  Speaker 1: to give your offense a chance. And then I thought
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  Speaker 1: that forced the offense in the fourth quarter in particular
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  Speaker 1: to have to get out of character a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Rich even talked about it after, probably pressed a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: did some things you wouldn't normally do, and the thing
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  Speaker 1: got away from you late. You mentioned the end of
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  Speaker 1: that game, and that's really where the thing flipped.
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  Speaker 3: 5-0.
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  Speaker 1: Final five drives for Oklahoma State, they scored on every
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  Speaker 1: one of them, guys. Three touchdowns, two field goals, 27
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  Speaker 1: points over the final 26 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Scored on all of those in under two minutes except
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  Speaker 1: one of them. So it was fast. You put up
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  Speaker 1: no resistance. That was a tough defensive effort to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Quite simply, you can't say it any different. I'll get
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: to some numbers that talk about that. Then conversely, West
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Virginia held scoreless over its final four drives. So that
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: was really evenly matched. I thought, though, if you're talking
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: about missed opportunity, I thought there were a couple that
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: jumped out to me. And it turns out, if you
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: want to put some analytics behind it, they match this.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I thought the interception was just a crucial, guys, crucial
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: turning point. And it's a tipped pass. We had talked
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: about how flawless this pass offense had been. I talked
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: about how I thought that was the key to West
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Virginia's offense so far, is the ability to throw it
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and be explosive. That unlocked the run game. I'll get
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: into some numbers on that in a minute. But that
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: particular case, that's what you couldn't have happen. You're marching in. 14-3.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was 14-3.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: You're going to go up 21-6, I thought it was.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: 14-6, wasn't it?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: 14-6, I think.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: You were going to go up 21-6 if you punched
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: that in. Very least, you're getting a field goal. That
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: turns into your biggest negative EPA of the night. Of course,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: it did, because you're about to score, and you gave
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: up the ball going the other way. And then, of course,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the fourth and one stop. When you needed a yard,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: you still had a chance. You're down 28-24 at that point.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: right at the end of the third quarter, that felt
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: like it let the air out of the balloon right there.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And Rich said it after the game, got to be
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: able to get one yard. This offense should be able
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to get one yard when it needs it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: And two cracks at it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And two cracks. And it couldn't. And you got blown
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: up on the fourth down play. I mean, you weren't
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: even close to that. I thought those two moments when
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you talk missed opportunity within the game, I thought those
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: changed the game. EPA-wise, they did. They backed that up.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: No, I totally agree.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: So those were disappointing and missed opportunities. okay, let's go
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: back like we always do. What did we say Thursday?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And then how did those things play out? One of
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the things we wanted to watch was that Oklahoma State
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: came in 14th nationally in yards before contact at two
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and a half yards per carry before they got hit.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: West Virginia defense was 66th out of 68 in the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: country in yards before contact allowed. So that was a
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: tough match coming. Thought Oklahoma State may be able to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: run for some yards before you could contact them. This
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: was interesting. My eyes told me Oklahoma State won that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: battle going away. I thought they were running. I thought
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: they were getting four or five yards almost every time
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: before anybody was near them. The numbers didn't look that way.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: It actually looked like West Virginia improved in that category.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And Oklahoma State went back. But here's where you got hit.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And maybe this was all just clumped together and why
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: it looked like it did. Caleb Hawkins went for nearly
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: four yards per carry after he was hit. So their
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: yards after contact, which hadn't been great, were elite. And
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: some of that, you have to blame West Virginia. That
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't all Oklahoma State doing a great job. Again, I'm
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: not taking credit away from them. But West Virginia registered
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a tackling grade of 43.7. That was the worst one
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: since Utah exactly one year ago today, September 27th of 2025.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: It's the second worst tackling grade since you played Oklahoma
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: State back in 2021. And that was noticeable, right? You
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: just couldn't wrap up how many missed tackles. One time
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you swung a guy around, gave him momentum, and he
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: took off for another big game. Tackling was just not good.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: So Yards before contact, while to my eyes it looked
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: like they were getting big chunks, the numbers really showed
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it was after contact that was actually the worst part
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: of that equation. Number two, I said West Virginia had
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to stay explosive through the air. Again, I thought that
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: was the critical part of this offense. You didn't have
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to throw a lot. You weren't throwing a lot. But
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: when you did, there were enough big explosives that you
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: had the defense on their heels. That unlocked everything else.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: It just felt like all night. West Virginia couldn't get
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: that big explosive pass play that we've seen. Whether it
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: was you didn't come up with the ball, whether the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: pass was a little bit off, whether you just missed
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the receiver, it just wasn't the same one we had seen.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And Hawkins, the Jaden Bray seam route was gone. You
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: hit that one and obviously it would have been a
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: massive play for you.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: And Hawkins had, they had some pressure on Hawkins a
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: few times too.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: You had been set. Well, I'm going to get to
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: that hop. You're exactly right. You had been second nationally
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: in explosive play rates, second in yards per attempt. And
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the weird stat we talked about, and this I thought
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: played out, it was going to get you if you
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: continue down this line. Coming into the game, West Virginia
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: was dead last in the nation in pressure rate allowed.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Teams were getting to Hawkins, but he was making them pay.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And you were near the top in EPA per pass
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: play while at the bottom of pressure allowed. There's no
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: way that's sustainable. Something's changing.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: It did.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: You didn't connect on the explosives. And man, you got
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: heated up all night. I thought that offensive line had
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a tough night, guys. Hawkins was running for his life.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And save for his individual ability to make things happen
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: in scramble mode, that might have looked a whole lot worse.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I thought he was really good in keeping you alive
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on plays where he was just getting heated up constantly.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: West Virginia's 2 of 7 on pass plays of 20
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: or more yards. And you didn't really have anything underneath
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: that then turned into a big catch. So I thought
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: that was really critical, even though it didn't affect the
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: success the running game had. That was an area that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: had been so good for West Virginia. Offensive line struggles,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: as I just mentioned, gave up seven sacks and 23
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: pressures from the Cowboys. I thought they were just streaming
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: into the backfield all night long. That was that's an
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: area of concern that we thought that offensive line is better.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: And I still think it's better. But that was not
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a great performance by them last night. Have to Have
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to shore that up really fast. The other thing we
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: talked about, one of the keys, you had to disrupt Mestemaker.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: We talked about him coming in, so much attention on him.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: You can see why. As you pointed out, you put
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: him back there and he absolutely will pick you apart.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: And he did. 600 yards of total offense, zero sacks,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: just nine pressures on the night. The very few times
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you got home, there was a critical third down going
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to the hospital end where you got home and drilled him.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: pass sales over their head. You hold them to a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: field goal. It was there. Here's what crushes you, though,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: with the defense not being able to get home. All
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: that talk about the quick release and you unloaded under
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: two seconds and it's going to be hard to get
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: him home.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Get home.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Fine.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: It'll do.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Fine.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: They went deep all night long on you and they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: had not done that. They came into the game. We
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: talked about Thursday. Only 9% of their passes had been
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: deep balls. Last night, 26% of his passes were deep,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and he was lights out. 6 of 7 for 243. Guys,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: he averaged 19.5 yards per completion, an explosive pass rate
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in the 91st percentile. So not only was he elite,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: they did something they hadn't done all year, and that's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a reflection of the defense. Again, he made the plays.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: But they switched what they were able to do because
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you could not stop them and you couldn't get home
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: when he was back there holding the ball. That to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: me was the most disappointing part. They changed. You couldn't
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: adjust to match with them. Guys, they went for nine
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: yards per play on you last night. For context, Miami
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: leads the nation in yards per play at eight and
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a half. So that was a nation leading performance if
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you were to sustain it all year. So that was disappointing.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Now some weird stats on the other side. Run game
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: for West Virginia was great. Worked great. They had no
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: ability to stop you early. You were just running up
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: and down the field on them. Went for 334. West
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Virginia had won 23 of its last 25 games when
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: rushing for 330 yards or more. 12 of those wins
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: were for Rich. Rich was 12-0 in that span with
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: that number. You got 29 first downs, as you mentioned, Tony.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: That's the most in a game. It's actually not as
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: far back as you would think, but it's the most
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: in a game since November 16th of 2024 against Baylor. Shockingly,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: that was a loss as well. Only three losses in
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: your previous 25 games when you get 29 or more
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: first downs. So those are benchmarks you want. Hawkins and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Cook both go over 100 yards. That's normally something you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: look for with this team. Those two guys do that,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you're in great shape. Cook, 193, fueled by that giant
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: run to start the game. Seven yards per carry for him. Again,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I know you had the one explosive, but he was tremendous.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Fifth nationally in rushing yards is Cam Cook. He's third
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: in missed tackles. Here's a number. Cam averaged nearly four
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: yards per carry before contact. Big holes. Four yards before
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: contact for Cam Cook. And you don't win a game
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: in which you do that? Hawkins goes for 102, three
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. Third straight game with three rushing touchdowns in
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: a game. Nobody's done that. No quarterback has done that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: since Pat in 06. How about this number I saw?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: First time a Mountaineer has scored three rushing touchdowns in
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: back-to-back games since Kerry Marbury in 1972.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Three touchdowns in back-to-back games.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Hawkins leads the nation in quarterback rushing yards and quarterback
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. He had nine missed tackles forced last night.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was dancing for his life last night.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: He now leads all quarterbacks in that category on the season.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: 120 of his 125 yards were after contact last night.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: So Cook was getting large chunks. They were on Hawkins,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and he just individually had a great night. We talked
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: about coming in the good-on-good matchup on third down conversions.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: West Virginia had been elite, converting better than 50%. Oklahoma
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: State defense led the nation, holding teams to 16% conversion rate.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: West Virginia was excellent again, outstanding, 53% conversion rate.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: 9-17.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: And you don't win the game.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: And they went 2-for-10 on third down.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So there's more. There's no need to break down more.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I thought the defense's inability to get any stops when
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it needed. and West Virginia's offense late, having to probably
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: do some things it didn't want to do, threw it
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: off enough, and you just couldn't cash it in.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Guys, Tony, how many times did you say or did
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Dwight say during a broadcast, just get a stop? And
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: you couldn't.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: You couldn't get a stop.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Not only could you not get a stop, but they
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: continued to go dialing it up long distance. That was
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: even more, like if one punch in the stomach isn't,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: enough pain then they just kept coming back and hitting
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you with clean shots possession after possession after possession.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And that's why early it felt like especially on the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: interception you're you're up and you're winning but guy and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: tony we talk about this a lot in basketball sometimes
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you go into the half half what halftime and you're
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: like well you're down but i tell you what you
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: don't feel bad i think if you're oklahoma state you
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: kind of felt that way i felt like west virginia
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: should have had an even bigger lead there. That turnover
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: just was so massive. It felt like that game was
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: too close. You were controlling it, but the score didn't
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: indicate that. And here's where I will say for, again,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: some of the blame goes to the defense, but I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: thought Oklahoma State's ability to answer seemingly every time, that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: was the difference. Just when it looked like they're staggering
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and they're into the ropes and maybe one more punch
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: might do it, they just came right back with an answer.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And there were moments where the crowd did have an effect.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: You got the interception from Mestemaker that you thought you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: would probably get. You got the false starts, especially on
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that first drive that backed them up on that fourth down.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: They couldn't go for it.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Ended up, I think, three false starts there on third
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: or fourth down. So it was doing what you thought
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: it would do. You just needed a couple stops, and
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you couldn't get it, especially late. And their offense was
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the best unit on the field, and that came through
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: for the win.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Yes. Completion distance from Mestimaker. 21, 28, 13, 21, 21, 52, 27, 40, 48, 48, 28. 13, 21, 21, 52, 27, 40, 48, 48, 28.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Never seen anything like that in my life.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: That's why I told you. His average completion was 19.5 yards.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: His average completion was darn near two first downs in length.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Tony, there was one of the completions. I don't know
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: who the receiver was. But he was a wide out
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: on the right side. And he runs down and runs
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: like a long post. and caught the ball on the
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: left corner downfield. Now, that takes about five seconds to
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: get that far down the field, and Mestemaker just is
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: standing back there.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like seven on seven. Wyatt Young, for them,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: eight catches, 192. Yeah, he killed us. A touchdown with
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a long of 48. He caught the ball on eight
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: of his nine targets.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: And how about the yards after catch, too? I mean,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: that was a.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: He had 39 after catch.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: So.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Should I say it?
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can say it. What are you going to say?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're going to say.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: It's never as good as you think. It's never as
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: bad as you think. It's always somewhere in the middle,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and that's the truth.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. But now you have to regroup yourself because, again,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: of the missed opportunity of not taking care of business
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: at home, now you go on the road. And, again,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a situation that you looked at all summer and said, okay,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: get your stuff together and go on the road to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: an Iowa State team that is trying to remake itself.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: After a decade of stability under Matt Campbell, now you
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: get a Cyclone team with 80-plus new players and a
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: new coach. But I will say this, their defense has
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: been better than I think most people have thought. They're
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: struggling offensively, and we'll get more in a preview coming
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: this week. Their offense has been struggling a little bit,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: but their defense is good. Jimmy Rogers is a heck
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: of a football coach, well-respected. Success at the FCS level,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: really good at Washington State. Brought some of those Washington
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: State guys with him. So this is certainly no gimme.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: But it is a road game where you go saying,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: all right, pick yourself up off the mat. What does
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: this team have that when the adversity hits, as you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: were saying earlier, Tony, can it rally itself, get back together,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: put this behind them, and go win in what will
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: be a difficult road environment? They'll be filled out there.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: They'll be ready to go. You catch the break that
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you're getting them at 11 a.m. That's a road game
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you've got to go get.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Also, to be determined, how good is Oklahoma State, right? Yeah.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: If you go back and look at it, four turnovers
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and their stunning loss at Tulsa to start the season.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: And then they beat Oregon at home and turned it
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: over twice deep in the red zone. It could have
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: even been a wider margin of victory for Oklahoma State.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Then they handle Murray and then they come in here
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and do what they did last night. Again, still early,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: still a ton of games to play, but they leave
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: here and you're looking at it going like, they might
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: be legitimately a very solid to above average team.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Well, if, I'll repeat myself, if they now can pick
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: up what they did and play it forward, then they'll
• 32:37
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• 34:07
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it in a second. But the Mountaineer
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: volleyball team with an historic win on Friday night. over
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the Sun Devils of Arizona State. We'll get into that.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: First time this year we've needed the healing part of
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: textual healing.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Excuse me? First time this season we needed the healing
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: part of textual healing. Textual healing is your opportunity to
• 34:29
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• 34:30
  Speaker 2: It's brought to us by WVU Medicine, the official health
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  Speaker 2: for heart surgery. Yeah, this is, that's how, for those that,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: have joined us in midstream on three guys. That's how
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: healing was started. We went into, I forget what exactly
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: what it was. It was a, it was a, it
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: was a low patch at a little bit of a
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: dry patch. And so I said, you know what? We
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: need healing.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: We need to heal. That's how textual healing started. Again,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: unable to use the multitude just too many. However, we
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: do believe that the general theme of the fan base
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: will be reflected in these comments. First one is just
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: two sentences. Find a win in the remaining schedule. I
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: dare you. Seriously, man? There's wins. West Virginia will win
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: more football games as the season goes on. I have
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: no hesitation in saying that. Texter, in all my years
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: of watching football, high school, college, and professional, about near
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: past defense, was the most inept I've ever seen. I
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: feel bad for my son-in-law who had such a great
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: time there this weekend. I had to go through that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Thanks for showing him a great time at your food court.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: That's Rich in Satellite Beach, Florida. Let's go.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Rich Rodriguez said after the game on the defense, I mean,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: he didn't try to say it was something that it
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: wasn't because he couldn't, but his quote was, defense, it
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: was nothing. That was his word, nothing.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: He also continued to say in took it on the staff,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: he said, we had a bad plan. Yeah. We had
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: a bad plan, and it didn't work. And I think, again,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: because of just the unbelievable accuracy and success they had
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: with deep pass plays, obviously, numerically, something was not jiving
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: back there. And so they'll review. Texter says, Oklahoma State
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: rebuilt in one year, year eight, and we're still rebuilding.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Complete embarrassment on all levels.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: And it's wild, guys. And it goes to our theme
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: of we say you're allowed to get better. It's remarkable
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: what you're saying about Oklahoma State now versus where they
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: were when they yacked that to Tulsa. It was a season.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: That wasn't before. That was three weeks ago. They yacked that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: And then they turned themselves around. I give them a
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: lot of credit for being able to do that. That's
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: two good wins.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: To get Oregon speaks for itself. Then to come into
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: here in this building and do what you did to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: West Virginia after losing to Tulsa. Pretty wild.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Six in a row they've won here.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that to me, I should have used that. We
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: talked about Thursday.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Six and two all time here.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Should have used that stat in there because of all
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the weird stats. That is one I would not have
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: thought that that would be the team that would come
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: in and win six straight against you.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Totally agree. Right?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's been a great program for a long time,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: but that's not a Miami of the 90s rolling in.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, geez, six straight?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ryan in Morgantown, I'm still excited for the direction
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: of the program, but can we talk about offense? Love Rich,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: but where are the 5, 10, 15-yard passes, even bubble screens?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Just seems like everything is a runner heaved down the field.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Let's get the ball to our playmakers in space. Texter,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: you are allowed to get better is a catchphrase of
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: this show, and it's true, but the secondary is not
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: something that gets better enough to matter during the season.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: It's too dire, not so different from the offensive line
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: last season. They're not going to win a single game
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: against a good passer. They could, however, go undefeated against
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: anyone else. Maybe that is an 8-4 record.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know, on that, Tony, and I can't judge
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: the– I don't think the secondary should be judged as
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: harshly as maybe it is. Now, there was a missed tackle.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: It was a bad performance. But, again, Steve Dunlap, former
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, used to say you can't cover them forever.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: It takes a lot of– Yeah, you got to, yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: That defensive backfill would not look nearly as bad had
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: West Virginia had success in impacting the throw from Mestermaker,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: and they just didn't have it. It's all 11.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a game last night on defensive performance that
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: everybody shares in that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Everyone. Texter, Kevin and Kingwood, I'm so tired of this bend,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: don't break defense, because once it breaks, it doesn't stop breaking.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: There shouldn't be this much pressure on the offense to
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: score every possession. Seems like our defense tries really hard
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: to turn them over, but if not, just give up
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: a TD. Totally defeated right now.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I don't think they wanted to bend either. I think
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: they got bent.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Given the option, they probably wouldn't have bent. we could
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: have interfered with the receiver, but we were never close enough. Texter,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: tough loss. I think the floor for this team is
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: seven wins, better D, improved pass game, Michael and Austin. Texter,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: it is clear secondary needs help. What does that look like?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Different schemes, more time on offense, possessing the ball? I
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: don't know, but something needs fixed here.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Hey, Tony, you brought it up, but Rich Rod said
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: several times in the postgame that we had a plan,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: our plan didn't work. Plan, plan didn't work. We've got
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: to do a better plan. I would be interested to
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: know what it was that they planned to do, because
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: you can't do everything. What is it that they planned
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: to do? Okay, we know what they're going to do,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: so we're going to plan to do this. That did
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: not work. I mean, what was it? Any idea?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: No. I'll find out what the intention was. The plan
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: that I knew going in was that you were going
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: to try to just be varied in your attacks. Sometimes
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: you drop eight, and sometimes you bring heat, but When
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: they brought the heat, it didn't get to the quarterback.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did some different alignments early with six
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: defensive backs back. They tried to drop in to put
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: everybody in coverage, and that didn't work. So then they
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: tried to bring some heat. That didn't work either. They
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: did make some changes, and none of it worked. And
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that was especially disappointing to you guys. The Oklahoma State
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: was going with some injuries along that offensive line.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And you still couldn't get any pressure on them.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Texter, just a few overt observations. Nick Taylor, Mountaineer corner,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: needs to double up on Guardian caps. The boys were
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: efforting tonight. We made them come up with answers in
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: the first half, but we did not have answers for
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: their answers. Which brings me to this. Did we get
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: too confident with early run success, or was the pass
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: game that much of a work in progress? Andrew in
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Little Rock, by the way, of Parkersburg South. Gary from Hurricane,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: disappointed in the loss, but not ashamed. We hung in
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: there most of the game with a very good team.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: WVU season still looks bright in my eyes. I was
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: thankful there were no bad injury. Bad injuries. Hey, three guys, Jake,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Preston County, currently living just outside of Midland, Texas. After
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the frustrating loss to Oklahoma State, I realized that some
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: things that never seem to change with West Virginia football,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: keeping them from special seasons since joining the Big 12.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Number one, not having a good offense and defense at
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: the same time. like 2012, 16, and 18. Two, Oklahoma
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: State is always our hurdle. We can't clear to have
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: a special season playing spoiler for us in 16 and 18.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I hope those topics change sooner than later. Texter, I
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: know it's only one loss. I've got Faith and Rich
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: and his staff to return the program to where it
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: was the first time here. Hopefully tonight's defensive performance, a one-off,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: because if we rack up nearly 500 yards of offense,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: it should be enough to win the ballgame. Keep up
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: the work. Love the show. Texter. There's a big difference
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: between hope and realistic expectations. To me, the offense is
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: actually a little ahead of schedule right now, but that's
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: always been Rich's MO. Tends to get the offense moving
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: before the rest of the program fully catches up. I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: wanted nothing more for us to win tonight. Didn't happen.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: That's life. What I'm really anxious to see now is
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: how this team responds over the next few weeks. and
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: what they do with the lessons learned tonight.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: That's a good comment there by Jason. I agree with that.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: That generally, if you watch Riches, the offense comes first.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: And I think there's no doubt that offense has taken
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: a massive step forward. And it's why, Hop. What's it doing?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It's got playmakers.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: It's got guys.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: It's got multiple playmakers. And I think defensively, guys, you've
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: seen moments and flashes, but you're still looking for a
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: match to the Hawkins, Cook, Bray, Epps, playmakers that you've
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: seen offensively so far a little more consistently. Who's going
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to match that on the defense? Who are the guys
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: that we can come in every week and say, did
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: you see a game? That's what that defense is still
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: searching for, but I agree with that comment. Generally, it's
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the offense that comes first, and then the defense comes
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: along with it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: One note, Jacory Thomas, the transfer from the University of Georgia,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: recently cleared for eligibility, did dress last night, did not
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: take the field, but If he's dressed, then I would
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: assume it'll be sooner than later that he will be
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: in that backfield defensively for West Virginia. Texter, Brett Hoppy, Tony,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: my wife and I attended the WV alum function Friday.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It had a 1980s theme. On our way to the event,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: we stopped at the food court, grabbed a Connection 304,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: able to meet Mrs. Cutter, Ben's mom. And even though
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: we were unable to sample the world-famous oatmeal cream pies
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: that were sold out, We were able to get a
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: picture made with Tony. Sorry that you missed us, Brad
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: and Hoppy. And fine-looking Phil said he could fix us
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: up with some new threads. I don't know if you
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: saw that.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, that looks awesome.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Brad. Great 80s game. They were, yeah. It is.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Big hair and all.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they went to that event apparently at the Alumni Association.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Well done. Yeah. From Ritchie County. By the way. I
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: knew that guy that gave us the meat.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Hey, question, Tony. So- Jack Cassidy not kicking it out
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: of the end zone twice. Was that twice? Was that
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: on purpose? Were they trying to do something there?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. There was a teeny little
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: bit of wind going that way.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Got to check the humidity index, too. Just like in baseball,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: it was cooler. Ball wasn't jumping out of the ballpark
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: like it sometimes does in the warmer months of the summer, Abhi.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, got it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that happened.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: And what was the reason why? When one of the
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: kicks by Cassidy did not go out of the end
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: zone and it was returned, and West Virginia tackled the guy,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: but then they put the ball to 25.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: So the returner signaled fair catch.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: He did signal?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: That's what the officials said. He signaled fair catch and
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: then ran out with it. And the issue there was
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: the official, upon seeing the signal for fair catch, should
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: have tooted his whistle and blown the play dead. But
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: they didn't, and that was allowed. To return. Then they
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: went back and said, no, there shouldn't have been a
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: return because he signaled fair catch. It should just go
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: out to the 25. Yeah. Okay. That's why that happened.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you. I mentioned this earlier. This texter says, shout
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: out to the flying Jen Greenies taking down number nine
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: ranked Arizona State. I got another tough one today.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: TCU coming up Sunday. If you're listening to this Sunday,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: number 11 TCU.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: One o'clock this afternoon. If you're listening now. We're live.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: On the 27th of September. Yeah, that's a huge one.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: They were down 2-1 after three.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Right. It's a heck of a win. Good for them.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Well, we're now like fanboys because Jim was at the
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: last gathering at BW3. We're McGath and Bailey fans.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Maddie and Anna Hall have been awesome.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: We're thinking maybe they could be part of our entourage.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Texter says, seeing Charles Wesley Godwin in Lodi, California, I
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: gave him the much-needed Let's Go Mountaineers. Charles confirmed that
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: he hears it everywhere. Mountaineers are everywhere. Big game this weekend.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Let's go. And this gentleman, there's Chuck. Chuck on stage.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: He had a bad seat.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: On California.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Who had a bad seat? Charles is right there in
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: the middle of the stage.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I know, but you're way off. It's an obstructed view,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: isn't it?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Texter. I was happy to introduce my brother-in-law, Greg Stump,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a P1 listener in Taiwan, to Brad. He'll make some
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: future West Virginia connections over there. Great to see y'all.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Brent and Nicole. So that dude lives in Taiwan and listens.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: It's the guy to my right, left of your screen.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: He had just flown in there. He was 15, 16-hour flight,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I think he said. And then we know Brent and Nicole.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: They've been around for years, food court, and do a
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: great job. It was fun to see them. I just
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: got out of the car, took a quick walk through
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the threw the lot up there and saw them. They
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: were getting ready for a big day.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: So we had that Taiwan to Morgantown flight, the direct. Yeah.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It goes right. No, I don't think it goes
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: right into Morgan. I think it was Bridgeport.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Bridgeport.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Okay. Cause Bridgeport can't, or Morgantown can't handle the real
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: big plane. Uh, Texter, my son-in-law, WVU grad, Jeremy from
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Yorktown VA with the Senator TC at the food court,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Oak state game. They love the cookies and all of
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: the food. So just kind of a, uh, Just a
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: series of pictures there you can roll through.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: It was a beautiful day, wasn't it?
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Couldn't have been better. That was Friday night. And there's
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: the cookies.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Big hit again.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Ben Cutter's mom's cookies. And just a good time had
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: by all. All right, so we've got a couple of things.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: We've got an event coming up on October 7, doing
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: it for the second year in a row at the
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: United Way. And last year, we bought a pig, and
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: we auctioned off. We bought the pig this week at
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: the Preston County It was the Buckwheat Festival. So we
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: bought a pig. Do we have a picture of said pig?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, there he is.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, my. There he is, a young, beautiful young lady
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: who did a wonderful job raising that pig. And we
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: are going to auction off that pig coming up on
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: our event on October the 7th.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Callie. Callie Thall.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Callie Thall. She raised, and apparently the pig's name is Rusty.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: So what we'll do, winning bidder will receive approximately $ 2, 000
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: worth of locally raised professional processed pork. And we raised
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: money for the United Way, and that's a touchdown terrace.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: It's called Moving Mountains, Changing the Game. A few other pictures.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: We showed those pictures of the folks that were at
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: the 80s event. Also, a big thank you to our–
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: there they are right there. That's hilarious. So they did
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: not– he didn't get that blazer at Daniels?
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that back there.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Phil doesn't have that one listed in the category. It
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: was nice to meet them. Also, super big thanks, our
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: live musical entertainment, McKenna Hope, her husband Nick. They were there.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: They brought us– yeah, right there, three bottles of wine.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Her husband's got a winery and homeless Dave. has those
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: for us.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: She got rave reviews.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: She's really good. And also, Nick Cray's parents were on hand.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Andrew and Joanne, they were there. Forgot, his dad, not
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: only a principal, he was a former athletic trainer. So
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: he was locked in there when Nick got injured in
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: the UVA game. Just good people. They brought us each
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: bags of stuff from Wegmans. Homeless Dave has those and
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: they'll be bringing them over here so thank they're really
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: nice grace thank you also uh the sergeant family we
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: got leila and bella now those two young ladies are
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: from martinsburg and in my hand there that red tin
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: her grandmother made me baklava oh nice sensational i bet
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: it is really really super good so uh that was
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: another version of a little treat that was over.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: There Can I do two things?
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wait one second. There's Ben. I think we got Ben.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Do we have Ben's mom as well?
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: There's Jan Cutter.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Jan Cutter. There she is. That's all she was doing.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: They sold out. So all she was doing was just
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: passing stuff out.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Everybody came to pick theirs up.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: Sure. She got rid of all of them. Her parents
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: were in this weekend too.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: So two things. One is, Jay, can you show a picture?
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I got to give a shout out to my boys.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: So these are guys I all went to college with
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: and some I've known since junior high. And we all
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: lived at the same house, different apartments on McLean Avenue.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: And they were in this weekend. And they got field passes.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: They got their picture made with Pat White and Rashid.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: And they met the athletics director. And they were just giddy.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Giddy.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: It's nice to do that. And also, thanks. I did
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: have a gold shirt to wear. Thanks. Actually, gold paraphernalia.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Because I had a gold shirt. Thanks to fine-looking Phil.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: And Dusty Rutledge sent me some gold swag.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Dusty's a chief commander and officer over there at football operations.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: So when it got a little cool, Brad, last evening,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I put on that piece of gear that Dusty gave me.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: It was good to go. So thank you, Dusty.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Dusty listens to the show. He says we're too mean
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: to Hoppy. He says Hoppy is the best part of
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: that show.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Justin. Just saying. All right, so the week that is, obviously,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of things are going on as we start
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: to get busy, busy, busy, busy. Basketball is basketballing at
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: a very high rate, and we are now, we're less
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: than four weeks away from the first exhibition game, 18
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: of October, 18 of October at Maryland.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Does it get, I mean, they're going to start in
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: September soon, I'm sure.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Doesn't stop. What do you mean, start what? Well, I mean,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: we're getting closer. We're in the middle of October. Middle
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: of October is when we're... Just a couple weeks. Just
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks away. So they're going.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Court ruling, standing by, waiting for a court decision. That
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: was end of last week, was the hearing in front
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: of Judge Bailey, expecting an answer here fairly soon, you
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: would think, on that ruling. It involves two basketball players,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Javon Buchanan, B-Lo, of course, football player and Jason Chambers,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: defensive back, and then Ben McDougal, baseball player.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we're recording Sunday on the 27th of September.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Very well could come tomorrow. Mm-hmm. which would be Monday
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the 28th. We'll keep an eye on that. West Virginia
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: getting ready for Iowa State. We're back on Thursday with
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: our preview of the Mountaineers and the Cyclones of Iowa State.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: So a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff to
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: get done. Somewhere in the middle. Never is bad. Never
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: is good. You're in the middle. You've got to figure
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Hope so.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Special thanks to producer Jake. We're coming on in and
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: putting this thing together. Three guys before the game brought
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• 54:28
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• 54:36
  Speaker 2: By Jan Dill's attorneys at law, they won't take no
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• 54:50
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• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Episode number 742 into the book. That'll do it for us.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Have yourself a great week. Talk again.