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Speaker 1: Time for the Robert Report. Yeah, let's get into it. Fans,
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Speaker 1: Sided Insider and FT Insider. You'll see him a lot
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Speaker 1: on here during these next three weeks, especially Robert Murray
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Speaker 1: with us. Robert, let's do a headliner right from the
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Speaker 1: jump here. I want to go over the Padres and
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Speaker 1: if you think there's any chance that they actually dangle
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Speaker 1: Mason Miller or will Aj Preler do his usual thing
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Speaker 1: and get aggressive and.
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Speaker 2: Go for it.
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Speaker 1: You know, you see it out there that it's rumor city,
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Speaker 1: help us sort through if you actually think there's a
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Speaker 1: possibility that they would try and move him.
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Speaker 3: I mean, boys, I'm sorry I missed it at the
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Speaker 3: All Star Game, but Aj Preller is the guy that
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Speaker 3: I always think of when it comes to the trade deadline.
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Speaker 3: We always see him making these big moves. Last year especially,
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Speaker 3: he was going crazy. You got Mason Miller, ron O'Hearn,
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Speaker 3: Ramonan Loreano, you got a bunch of other guys as well.
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Speaker 3: And this year I definitely expect him to be on
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Speaker 3: the market, be active on the market. What could that
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Speaker 3: exactly look like? Because the Padres are not having the
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Speaker 3: season that they envisioned, they still I believe Preller will
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Speaker 3: have flexibility if they go out and buy. But Mason
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Speaker 3: Miller has been mentioned a bunch here on the trade
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Speaker 3: rumor front.
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Speaker 2: I've checked.
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Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know if he's got like a real
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Speaker 3: chance of being moved, but with how limited the market is,
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Speaker 3: I can see teams absolutely checking with Preller to see
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Speaker 3: if Miller will become available, And you have to imagine
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Speaker 3: that the price for Miller, who's emerged as the best
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Speaker 3: reliever in baseball, is going to be very high. He
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Speaker 3: has absolutely been everything that the Padres have hoped for,
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Speaker 3: and honestly, he's been even better than I think they
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Speaker 3: could have hoped for. And he seems like a guy
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Speaker 3: that they want to build around, that they want to
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Speaker 3: have in San Diego long term. But if an offer
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Speaker 3: that comes that's too good to pass up where they
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Speaker 3: can get that headliner, one of the best prospects in ball,
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Speaker 3: maybe they can end up doing so. But my guess
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Speaker 3: is this is just a case where Preler listens, he
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Speaker 3: sees what's out there, holds on to Miller, and if
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Speaker 3: they have an opportunity to go out and compete, then
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Speaker 3: I think we could see him trying to add at
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Speaker 3: least one bat maybe two, and then try to do
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Speaker 3: whatever a j proler does is and just make trades
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Speaker 3: like no other executive in ball can make.
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Speaker 4: So we had a little action yesterday what we're calling
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Speaker 4: kind of the first official trade of the unofficial second half.
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Speaker 4: Lance mccoller is going to the Brewers. Tell me what
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Speaker 4: you think about that move for the Brewers, But also,
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Speaker 4: do you believe that this is kind of like the
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Speaker 4: push to get these gms out there to start getting
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Speaker 4: a little bit aggressive. We know how tight the American
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Speaker 4: League is in general. Do you think a little move
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Speaker 4: like this starts to force gms to start making moves
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Speaker 4: before the deadline?
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Speaker 3: Gosh, I sure hope so, because everything that I've heard
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Speaker 3: is that the market at this point is relatively quiet.
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Speaker 3: But as far as the Brewers go, they've had to
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Speaker 3: do something, and they got multiple somethings here, and they
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Speaker 3: got pitching depth, which is exactly what they've needed. Because
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Speaker 3: Jacob Mizerowski has been dealing with arm fatigue, and everyone
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Speaker 3: you talked to around the situation, and including Misrowski, has
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Speaker 3: said that he's not overly concerned about it, and Kyle
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Speaker 3: Harrison's been deal with something with his elbow. But again
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Speaker 3: the concern there is low, but the Brewers know better
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Speaker 3: than anybody that you need as many outkaters as you
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Speaker 3: can because injuries happen and you're gonna end up having
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Speaker 3: guys who are gonna need a breather, and this is
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Speaker 3: something where there I would not be surprised if we
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Speaker 3: see the Brewers try to limit Misrowski's innings to keep
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Speaker 3: him fresh for the postseason, because he's already coming up
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Speaker 3: on his career high of innings and I think they're
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Speaker 3: going to want to try to manage him, and adding
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Speaker 3: a guy like Lance mccollors is a really is a
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Speaker 3: low risk move.
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Speaker 2: You obviously add.
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Speaker 3: About two point five million dollars in salary, which for
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Speaker 3: the Brewers is not a small thing. But to me,
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Speaker 3: this is going to be the start for the Brewers
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Speaker 3: where you can add more pitching. Maybe you can end
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Speaker 3: up adding a bat. I hope they do both, because
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Speaker 3: I think they could definitely use both. But from Houston's
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Speaker 3: perspective too, this saves some payroll room for him, allows
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Speaker 3: them to have a little bit more flexibility come the deadline,
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Speaker 3: and with them like still hanging into the postseason race,
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Speaker 3: I do expect them to add and at one point
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Speaker 3: I expected him to move Christian Walker, maybe even a
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Speaker 3: guy like Josh Haters, some other guys as well. I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if they held out to him and
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Speaker 3: kind of try to add to this roster. But I
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Speaker 3: do think this is going to be an outlier, and
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Speaker 3: then that most of the movement is probably gonna come
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Speaker 3: closer to August.
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Speaker 5: Third, though, where are the teams that are I think
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Speaker 5: there's probably about five teams that are essentially out of
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Speaker 5: it in my opinion, out of it, I think, in
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Speaker 5: their opinion, out of it. And I have the Giants,
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Speaker 5: the Mets, the Angels, the Royals, and the Rockies. Who
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Speaker 5: is primed to take advantage of this market where like
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Speaker 5: you just said, hey, if you move early, you can
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Speaker 5: get the guy that you want. But everyone's afraid of
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Speaker 5: moving early except for these teams.
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Speaker 3: No, totally, And I think that list is exactly what
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Speaker 3: I have here too, and I wouldn't be surprised if
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Speaker 3: we have at least two or three more that are
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Speaker 3: added to that list closer to the deadline. But the
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Speaker 3: team that stands out to me the most is the Giants.
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Speaker 3: They have obviously like Luisa Rise He's had a great
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Speaker 3: season both offensively and defensively, and I'd be stunned if
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Speaker 3: he isn't moved. Maybe you could do an extension. I've
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Speaker 3: seen some talk about that on Twitter, but I think
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Speaker 3: they can absolutely take advantage with him. You have other
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Speaker 3: guys like Harrison Bader there, you have the Stars with
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Speaker 3: Rafael Devers, with Matt Chapman, who I still think I
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Speaker 3: said the last time I was on the show. I
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Speaker 3: think he'd be a great fit for Philadelphia, especially if
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Speaker 3: they want to upgrade the third base position and have
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Speaker 3: someone their long term William Doomas. But the guy that
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Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if he draws a lot
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Speaker 3: of interest is Jung Hu Lee. He's not going to
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Speaker 3: blow you away power wise, but he's a really solid defender,
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Speaker 3: great average like.
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Speaker 2: He's a guy that is a really.
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Speaker 3: Steady, like a really good baseball player, and I could
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Speaker 3: absolutely see the Giants getting so much interest in him
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Speaker 3: and perhaps an offer that they can't refuse and possibly
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Speaker 3: end up moving him. And that's one possibility there. They're
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Speaker 3: going to be listening on all these guys and they
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Speaker 3: have the pieces there where they can still sell, but
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Speaker 3: they can also have a chance at competing possibly next
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Speaker 3: year and the year after that, So they're the team
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Speaker 3: that stands out to me. Then you have the Mets
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Speaker 3: in here as well, and obviously Freddy Pralton in the
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Speaker 3: final year of his contract, is going to be drawing
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Speaker 3: a ton of interest. And he hasn't had the year
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Speaker 3: that he that he's had in Milwaukee previously, but he's
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Speaker 3: still a really good, dependable pitcher, and that eight million
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Speaker 3: dollars salary that he has for this season is something
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Speaker 3: that is going to have a lot of teams intrigued.
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Speaker 3: It's going to have a lot of baseball in the
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Speaker 3: mix there, So I would imagine the interest there ends
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Speaker 3: up leading to a deal involving Peralta and then everyone
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Speaker 3: is like I shouldn't say everyone, but I would imagine
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Speaker 3: a lot of different contending teams are going to be
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Speaker 3: looking at a guy like Luke Weaver, who's been phenomenal there.
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Speaker 3: And we've seen a rold As Chapman obviously get mentioned
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Speaker 3: in trade rumors, and now it looks like the Red
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Speaker 3: Sox are going to be holding firm and possibly adding there.
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Speaker 3: Does Mason Miller get moved and again, I don't think
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Speaker 3: that's the most likely thing. So it's possible that Luke
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Speaker 3: Weaver could end up being the best reliever who's possibly
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Speaker 3: available or potentially moved. So he's somebody I'm definitely watching.
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Speaker 3: As far as like the Royals go, they've made it
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Speaker 3: pretty clear that they don't want to move a guy.
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Speaker 2: Like Seth Lugo or Michael Waka.
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Speaker 3: We'll see if that ultimate leads to a deal, but
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Speaker 3: they should, in my opinion, definitely listen on both of
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Speaker 3: those guys because Walka especially, look at his numbers like
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Speaker 3: the last five or so seasons, the guy's legitimately his
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Speaker 3: nickname should be Mister Consistent. It's absolutely remarkable what he's done.
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Speaker 3: And getting to talk to him at the All Star
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Speaker 3: Game was pretty cool because his mindset and just how
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Speaker 3: he goes about how he goes about his business.
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Speaker 2: It's just is awesome there.
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Speaker 3: And then the Angels too, under Perry, they were a
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Speaker 3: team that really did not like make a ton of moves,
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Speaker 3: not a lot of big splashes come the deadline. But
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Speaker 3: now you have John Mozalic there. You got fresh set
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Speaker 3: of eyes, and he can end up looking at this
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Speaker 3: thing with an objective view. You can move a guy
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Speaker 3: I read Detmers, whose value I think he could end
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Speaker 3: up getting a lot.
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Speaker 2: In return for him. For sure.
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Speaker 3: You have Joe Adell, who I think would be a
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Speaker 3: great fit in Philadelphia, maybe San Diego. I like again,
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Speaker 3: they're a team that could take advantage of this thing,
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Speaker 3: for sure. But those are the teams that I'm watching.
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Speaker 3: But I'm skeptical that the Royals are gonna jump into
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Speaker 4: All Right, I'm going to say they're slow because it's
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Speaker 4: still hard to believe. It is July sixth, the Chicago
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Speaker 4: White Sox are tied for first place in the American leagues.
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Speaker 4: What do you believe that the White Sox go out
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Speaker 4: and do during the deadline? Do you believe that they're
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Speaker 4: going to be big buyers? Are they going to go
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Speaker 4: out and make a big move where do you think
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Speaker 4: they're just going to make some moves kind of along
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Speaker 4: the fringes to allow them to kind of compete down
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Speaker 4: the stretch.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking White Sox and aj Brazinski isn't here.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that terrible? I mean, how about that?
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Speaker 3: But it's crazy we got the White Sox. To me,
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Speaker 3: should be a team that absolutely tries to make this
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Speaker 3: thing happen at the deadline. But if you make it
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Speaker 3: happen and you make a big move, you have to
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Speaker 3: go out and get somebody controllable. And I've been talking
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Speaker 3: to some different people across baseball and I think Read
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Speaker 3: Debtmers would be a tremendous fit there. I just mentioned
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Speaker 3: him with the Angels. He's had a really strong season
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Speaker 3: in there, and you add him to the White Sox
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Speaker 3: and you can build around him in that rotation and
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Speaker 3: having a starting pitcher would be or adding a frontline
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Speaker 3: starting pitcher would really help them both now and also
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Speaker 3: long term as well. And I don't like it's the
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Speaker 3: asking price for him is going to be a lot,
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Speaker 3: especially with him being controllable. But if you're the White
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Speaker 3: Sox and you can possibly get him without giving up
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Speaker 3: like the entire farm, I think that's something you should
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Speaker 3: absolutely go out and consider. Because his underlying numbers are
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Speaker 3: too obviously see you see the four point three to
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Speaker 3: nine era, but the strikeouts are really good.
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Speaker 2: He's someone that I'm not kidding you when I say this.
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Speaker 2: He has been the most asked about.
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Speaker 3: Player that I've gotten on my end, at least from
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Speaker 3: other teams across baseball. They want to know, do I
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Speaker 3: think he's going to be moved? They want to know
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Speaker 3: what I'm hearing, And I think Detms is going to
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Speaker 3: be somebody who is very, very coveted come deadline time.
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Speaker 5: The teams that approach him you're talking about the White Sox,
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Speaker 5: the teams that approached the Angels about Debtmers, wouldn't it
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Speaker 5: be like, a, It's fine, we'll take Jose Soriano or
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Speaker 5: is Jose Soriano because he's not getting as much asked
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Speaker 5: as much as what you're talking about with reed Debtmers
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Speaker 5: that it wouldn't be the same thing because you already
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Speaker 5: work it out and you're like, ah, that doesn't quite
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Speaker 5: fit our package. But we'd be fine giving up Jose Soriano.
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Speaker 3: I mean it's I definitely think he's going to be
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Speaker 3: somebody who draws a bunch of interest, and like you
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Speaker 3: look at his start that he's had, it's been remarkable.
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Speaker 3: He was the talk of baseball across as first what
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Speaker 3: eight to ten starts, give or take very solid, very like,
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Speaker 3: very strong candidate at the deadline here, and I think
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Speaker 3: the Angel should absolutely be in a position where they
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Speaker 3: listen on him.
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Speaker 2: Should they sell high?
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Speaker 3: Do they think this is going to be a sign
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Speaker 3: of things that are going to continue. I think that's
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Speaker 3: something that John Mozalak and that entire front office has
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Speaker 3: to come out and listen or come out and consider here.
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Speaker 3: But as far as he goes like obviously, as I said,
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Speaker 3: Detmers has been the guy that have been asked about
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Speaker 3: the most. But with how limited the market is overall
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Speaker 3: and how many of these teams are out and contending,
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Speaker 3: it would be whove the Angels to listen on Sriana
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Speaker 3: because if you can get an offer that allows you
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Speaker 3: to have a better position to compete year maybe the
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Speaker 3: year after that, because they're not relatively close to competing.
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Speaker 3: I think it's something they should absolutely consider, and I
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Speaker 3: would absolutely imagine considering his start that he's gonna be
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Speaker 3: drawing plenty of interest here.
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Speaker 4: All right, Robert, I'm gonna put you on the spot
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Speaker 4: right here. I'm going to have you come out give
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Speaker 4: me a player that's not being talked about a lot
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Speaker 4: right now in trade circles. A big name that you
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Speaker 4: think could get moved at the deadline?
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Speaker 2: Boy, am I allowed to say someone that I said before?
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Speaker 3: Because it's relatively okay, I'll say Jung Hulee because like
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Speaker 3: the depth overall of players who are available on the
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Speaker 3: offensive side at this point seems relatively little. Obviously it's
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Speaker 3: going to change in the next couple of weeks, but
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Speaker 3: I think Jung Hulee is somebody who is going to
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Speaker 3: be drawing a lot of interest. And as I said before,
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Speaker 3: like you look at his numbers there, you hit three
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Speaker 3: h two average power isn't necessarily there. But he is
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Speaker 3: a winning ballplayer, and I think he is absolutely like
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Speaker 3: a phenomenal ad if you're Philly, if you're Atlanta. I
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Speaker 3: don't know the Giants would go out and trade him
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Speaker 3: to a division rival like the Padres, but the overall
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Speaker 3: fits there make a ton of sense. And you look
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Speaker 3: at the strikeoup percentage there as well. He like he
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Speaker 3: doesn't strike out much, he puts the he puts the.
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Speaker 2: Ball in play.
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Speaker 3: He's He's somebody who I think is going to have
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Speaker 3: a lot of fans across baseball, and I wouldn't be
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Speaker 3: surprised if it led to a deal so my vote
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Speaker 3: is for Jong Huli.
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Speaker 5: Can you I know it was putting on your spot,
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Speaker 5: but can you rank the top three teams that the
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Speaker 5: next two weeks of games.
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Speaker 3: Mean the most for Okay, let's go. I'll go to Padres.
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Speaker 3: Go the Red Sox that's trying to up the other
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Speaker 3: team here that could end up being it. But those
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Speaker 3: two teams to me stand out the most among all
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Speaker 3: of those. I'm trying to think of some I'm trying
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Speaker 3: to think of one other team that could end up really.
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Speaker 2: Detroit. Oh yeah, Detroit.
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Speaker 3: I'll go to Houston as well, because they're a team
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Speaker 3: that obviously they have a bunch of trade chips, like
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Speaker 3: I mentioned before, you have, you have Christian Walker, you
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Speaker 3: have Josh hater. I. I can't believe I didn't think
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Speaker 3: of Detroit. I don't know who it was who ended
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Speaker 3: up listening to that one, but I appreciate you saying
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Speaker 3: that because you have a guy like Trek Scooble here
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Speaker 3: who is the biggest domino on the entire market, and
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Speaker 3: as of this point, I'm not exactly sure if he's
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Speaker 3: going to end up getting moved. He's like, if you
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Speaker 3: would ask me that two three weeks ago, which honestly,
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Speaker 3: I think you guys did. I was like, yeah, I
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Speaker 3: think for sure he's going to be moved, But they're
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Speaker 3: getting back into this thing. They're trying to go out
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Speaker 3: and compete, and you know what, if they end up
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Speaker 3: getting closer to that playoff spot, maybe School stays and
14:30
Speaker 3: they end up going out and trying to add to
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Speaker 3: this roster. They're a team that honestly should end up
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Speaker 3: being number one on my list. The fact that you
14:37
Speaker 3: guys needed help or needed to help me out with
14:38
Speaker 3: that one is kind of embarrassing for me. But that
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Speaker 3: being said, Detroit is absolutely the team to watch here
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Speaker 3: for sure, because School could really dictate the entire deadline here.
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Speaker 2: Who would be.
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Speaker 4: The next tier picture if Trek School doesn't get moved.
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Speaker 4: Who do you think is the biggest name picture that
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Speaker 4: gets moved? Most impact I would say most impactful.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go, I mean, there's Freddy Peralta.
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Speaker 3: I think he is gonna end up really benefiting from
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Speaker 3: a change of scenery if he ends up getting moved here.
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Speaker 2: For sure, I think he is going to be.
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Speaker 3: Somebody who like obviously like the talk around him at
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Speaker 3: this point is still like I mean, people are kind of.
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Speaker 3: I feel like people are kind of sleeping on Freddy
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Speaker 3: Prawlt at this point because of his numbers this season,
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Speaker 3: how Donnie's been in Milwaukee. But he is somebody to
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Speaker 3: me who is going to be making an impact. He's
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Speaker 3: playoff tested, he's awesome, and I think whoever goes out
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Speaker 3: and get him, whether if it's the Cubs, whether it's
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Speaker 3: I mean, any of these other teams are going to
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Speaker 3: be gunning for him. I think par Alta is gonna
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Speaker 3: have a bigger impact than people realize.
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Speaker 5: This isn't a salary cap question, but it could be
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Speaker 5: moved in that direction. This is a trade deadline question.
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Speaker 5: All the teams that are in the mix we have parody.
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Speaker 5: Is this good for the trade deadline or is this
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Speaker 5: bad for the trade deadline? Because we'd love to see
15:50
Speaker 5: stuff happening right now. But you're like, ah, we got
15:52
Speaker 5: to see what these two weeks and then he popped
15:54
Speaker 5: off five teams that we got to wait to see
15:56
Speaker 5: what's gonna happen.
15:58
Speaker 3: No, I think it's great because it adds a mystery
16:00
Speaker 3: to add some like intrigue to it as well.
16:02
Speaker 2: And obviously we're not going to have like.
16:04
Speaker 3: A bunch of moves that happened between now and let's say,
16:07
Speaker 3: like the late July. But I think August first to
16:10
Speaker 3: the third are going to be plenty active. I think
16:12
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a ton of moves here. But I
16:14
Speaker 3: think any time you can have a bunch of teams
16:16
Speaker 3: going out and competing is a really good thing for ball.
16:18
Speaker 2: And you look at it, you.
16:19
Speaker 3: Have so many teams competing, you have you have the
16:23
Speaker 3: pottery is selling for almost four billion dollars. Like ratings
16:26
Speaker 3: are up big time across ball, Like players are being paid,
16:30
Speaker 3: they're playing at really high levels. You have star players
16:33
Speaker 3: who are also super young and early on into their careers.
16:35
Speaker 2: Baseball is in a terrific spot.
16:37
Speaker 3: So, like, I know you said it's not a salary
16:39
Speaker 3: cap question, but I still am adamant that we don't
16:42
Speaker 3: need a salary cap in baseball. I don't think a
16:44
Speaker 3: salary cap is going to be implemented in baseball. I
16:47
Speaker 3: want I want to be put on the record with that.
16:49
Speaker 3: But that being said, like I do expect the deadline,
16:52
Speaker 3: even though we don't have like a big long list
16:54
Speaker 3: of sellers at this point, I still think it's going
16:56
Speaker 3: to be plenty active. And I want to go back
16:58
Speaker 3: to a conversation that I had with Rosenthal on the
17:01
Speaker 3: field there in Philadelphia, because he and I were talking,
17:04
Speaker 3: We're catching up, and I'm like, yes, deadline's kind of
17:06
Speaker 3: shaping up to be relatively boring, and he looked at
17:09
Speaker 3: me and he's like, I disagree, and I'm like, you do.
17:11
Speaker 3: He said, the deadline is never boring. So right now,
17:14
Speaker 3: while we it seems like it might be boring, I
17:17
Speaker 3: think we're gonna end up having some fireworks.
17:18
Speaker 2: So I think I would stay tuned on that front
17:20
Speaker 2: for sure.
17:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, since we're on that topic, would you believe that
17:26
Speaker 4: GM's are going to be treating this trade deadline any
17:30
Speaker 4: different knowing that there could be a work stoppage at
17:33
Speaker 4: the end of the season.
17:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think so for sure.
17:36
Speaker 3: And in the fact of I would imagine we see
17:39
Speaker 3: teams that have kind of sat on the sidelines in
17:41
Speaker 3: years past, whether it's the Brewers, whether it's the Marlins.
17:44
Speaker 2: I could see those guys being aggressive on.
17:46
Speaker 3: The market, trying to make some different moves just so
17:49
Speaker 3: they can show that they're adding to the payroll.
17:51
Speaker 2: Because the Marlins.
17:52
Speaker 3: Didn't do hardly anything in the offseason. You have the Brewers,
17:55
Speaker 3: who have basically done nothing in free agency in years past.
17:58
Speaker 3: Obviously they've done extensions, but free agency wise and just
18:02
Speaker 3: trade wise, it's been relatively quiet on that front there
18:04
Speaker 3: for them. But I would imagine those two teams are
18:07
Speaker 3: going to be active, and I would imagine a lot
18:09
Speaker 3: of these teams are going to be looking at players
18:11
Speaker 3: who are controllable, who are cost effective, and obviously like
18:13
Speaker 3: that's something you hear about plenty come deadline season, but
18:16
Speaker 3: I think this year going it's going to be of
18:18
Speaker 3: even more important. So I think those two things, or
18:21
Speaker 3: that thing in particular, but those two teams are gonna
18:24
Speaker 3: be ones that we should be watching here going forward here.
18:26
Speaker 5: Going around the edges, you did talk about the Phillies
18:29
Speaker 5: possibly you know, Devers at third base, possibly Joe Adell.
18:33
Speaker 5: What it specifically are the Phillies' needs that they're going
18:36
Speaker 5: to go after. And when you bring up the Devers
18:38
Speaker 5: thing to play third for the long the long term,
18:41
Speaker 5: you would get them at a cheaper price. They did
18:44
Speaker 5: want to go after bo Bashitt. If that would happen,
18:48
Speaker 5: would Alec Boehm find value that the Phillies are in
18:53
Speaker 5: need of that you're about to tell us what the
18:56
Speaker 5: Phillies need.
18:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the guy that I thought made sense for
18:59
Speaker 3: the fit, and it was something that I got from
19:02
Speaker 3: rival exacts, it was Matt Chapman.
19:03
Speaker 2: It wasn't Devers, even.
19:04
Speaker 3: Though I think, oh no, no, you're totally good. But
19:08
Speaker 3: I do think that I think that Chapman would be
19:11
Speaker 3: a really strong fit there. But if you look at Philadelphia,
19:13
Speaker 3: I think third base is a position they can absolutely
19:15
Speaker 3: upgrade on. You can add to the rotation there, add
19:18
Speaker 3: an outfield, they're there as well. Those to me seemed
19:21
Speaker 3: like they should be the three priorities there. And Chapman,
19:23
Speaker 3: as I said, would be a great fit at third base,
19:25
Speaker 3: and they had money to spend in that position. They
19:28
Speaker 3: thought they had Bobachette signed, like that deal was at
19:31
Speaker 3: i'd say the five or ten yard line.
19:32
Speaker 2: They just had a couple more things to go.
19:33
Speaker 3: And then the Mets, who were lurking on Bashette all offseason,
19:36
Speaker 3: went out and got him at at the very last second.
19:39
Speaker 3: But out feel wise like this is a position where
19:41
Speaker 3: I could see them trying to make a decent splash.
19:44
Speaker 3: Whether it is a Joe Adell Taylor Ward, seems like
19:46
Speaker 3: you'd be a great fit in Philadelphia too.
19:48
Speaker 2: I think both of those.
19:49
Speaker 3: Guys, especially Ward, could be some really strong fits that
19:52
Speaker 3: we hear about plenty with Philadelphia for sure. And then
19:55
Speaker 3: pitching wise, do they make a splash like obviously Dave
19:58
Speaker 3: Dombroski has a deep hit stream of making splashes for
20:01
Speaker 3: rotation help at the deadline could like I don't think
20:03
Speaker 3: he's going to go out and get a guy like
20:05
Speaker 3: Eric's Schoogle, but if they can end up adding somebody
20:08
Speaker 3: that can make an impact in that rotation, I don't
20:10
Speaker 3: think that they would hesitate. But if I'm making if
20:12
Speaker 3: I'm Dave Dombrowski, which I'm not, but if I was,
20:15
Speaker 3: I think outfield would be the position I'd try to
20:17
Speaker 3: upgrade the most of the deadline here.
20:20
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22:12
Speaker 1: Fascinating reports coming out about the Olympics in twenty twenty
22:15
Speaker 1: eight and player participation. I'll get to the nitty gritty
22:19
Speaker 1: details as we discuss this, but basically, MLB has proposed
22:23
Speaker 1: to the Players Association significant penalties if you do not
22:27
Speaker 1: participate given an invitation right so, they want the best
22:33
Speaker 1: of the best in the Olympics. MLB owners have now
22:36
Speaker 1: agreed that they will let players take the break and
22:38
Speaker 1: they'll do a longer break. They want you to participate
22:41
Speaker 1: in the All Star Game if you're asked and participate
22:43
Speaker 1: in the Olympics, or you would essentially be on their
22:45
Speaker 1: restricted list for weeks and then you wouldn't be able
22:48
Speaker 1: to play until early August after the All Star break.
22:52
Speaker 1: You would lose service time, you would lose pay. Your excuse,
22:55
Speaker 1: of course, can be the injured list. That's okay, but
22:57
Speaker 1: they're going to be monitoring that and making sure that
22:59
Speaker 1: there's not injury list manipulation. Again, I'll get into the
23:04
Speaker 1: nitty graded details, but let's just start here, KP. If
23:06
Speaker 1: you're asked and you're someone who doesn't want to play,
23:09
Speaker 1: or maybe you're feeling a little bit banged up, but
23:11
Speaker 1: it's not banged up enough to hit the injury list,
23:14
Speaker 1: would you be pissed?
23:15
Speaker 4: Or hey?
23:16
Speaker 1: Should players actually have to participate? Since most of them
23:19
Speaker 1: have been publicly asking for.
23:22
Speaker 4: This, I'm trying to think how I feel about this.
23:27
Speaker 4: It's a lot to unpack. I do feel like most players,
23:34
Speaker 4: given the fact that they are going to have this
23:35
Speaker 4: extended break and that they're not going to be missing games.
23:39
Speaker 4: I feel like most players that are given the opportunity
23:43
Speaker 4: to be asked to play for their country and represent
23:46
Speaker 4: them in the Olympics would probably say yes. I don't
23:50
Speaker 4: like any situation in life where someone's putting a gun
23:54
Speaker 4: to your head and saying you have to do it,
23:56
Speaker 4: or these are the things that are going to happen
23:57
Speaker 4: to you restricted list. You know, if you're on IOW,
24:00
Speaker 4: you can't come back to these certain times because you know,
24:03
Speaker 4: me and Cratsey can both sit here. We played a
24:05
Speaker 4: long time, and there's a lot of things that play
24:09
Speaker 4: through physically and sometimes mentally, but physically that are not
24:14
Speaker 4: IL worthy. But you're playing through and sometimes to you know,
24:19
Speaker 4: have to go out and risk it even more when
24:22
Speaker 4: your real obligation is to your organization. I think it's
24:26
Speaker 4: a very tricky situation because clearly Baseball wants to get
24:30
Speaker 4: their best players, and I wish they felt the same
24:33
Speaker 4: way about the WBC, because it's like pulling teeth to
24:35
Speaker 4: get some of these players to or some of these
24:37
Speaker 4: organizations to allow their players to play. I get the
24:41
Speaker 4: Olympics is a different level than the WBC, but yeah,
24:47
Speaker 4: I don't like any situation where someone's forced to do
24:50
Speaker 4: something that they don't want to do. I would love
24:52
Speaker 4: for the best players in the world to want to
24:55
Speaker 4: say yes to do this opportunity, but I don't think
24:58
Speaker 4: forcing someone's hand by putting them on a restricted list,
25:01
Speaker 4: not allowing someone who's on the IL to rehab a
25:04
Speaker 4: certain time and kind of like manipulate that it's a
25:08
Speaker 4: little bit of an interesting thing. What I will say
25:11
Speaker 4: is I do love the fact that whether it's the
25:15
Speaker 4: Players Association or Major League Baseball or collectively, they both
25:18
Speaker 4: understand that the Olympics is a great opportunity to grow
25:21
Speaker 4: the game. And the fact that they're willing to stop
25:23
Speaker 4: the season to allow the best players to go out
25:27
Speaker 4: and represent their countries. I do think is a win
25:29
Speaker 4: for the game.
25:31
Speaker 5: And the games are gonna be played in San Francisco
25:34
Speaker 5: or in La wherever it is it's in. The games
25:37
Speaker 5: are in America, so yeah, it helps Major League Baseball,
25:40
Speaker 5: which is here in America like they had it when
25:44
Speaker 5: it was in Japan. I was part of the qualifying
25:47
Speaker 5: team to get there, and like, being an Olympian is
25:50
Speaker 5: something that I think. I don't think I know a
25:53
Speaker 5: lot of players, Americans, Dominicans, whatever it is you want
25:58
Speaker 5: to say, you're a gold medalist. So I'm glad that
26:02
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball has said, yes, it's cool, We're fine.
26:06
Speaker 5: We're not being greedy with our WBC, which is the
26:09
Speaker 5: reason we started it. We are actually joining forces with
26:14
Speaker 5: USA Baseball, with Olympic Baseball, and I think that's awesome.
26:20
Speaker 5: Because it's going to be a great stage for baseball.
26:23
Speaker 5: But what I do not like is this isn't Major
26:26
Speaker 5: League Baseball's tournament. And if they're going to strong arm
26:30
Speaker 5: players right out the gate. And then they turned around
26:34
Speaker 5: and they were like, well, it's because players, you know,
26:36
Speaker 5: well the players. One is housing and tickets. Yeah, the
26:41
Speaker 5: players don't want to live in the Olympic village. You
26:43
Speaker 5: can't have professional athletes living in the Olympic village. You
26:46
Speaker 5: can't have professional athletes living in areas like other amateur
26:52
Speaker 5: athletes or you know whatever. It is like, it's just
26:54
Speaker 5: not like it's okay. But this is not Major League
27:00
Speaker 5: Baseball's event. This is the Olympics event. And I don't
27:03
Speaker 5: want to see Major League Baseball strong armed players, strong
27:07
Speaker 5: armed Team USA, Team Dominican, you know, the the head
27:11
Speaker 5: coalitions for each of these countries, and to try to
27:16
Speaker 5: strong arm Olympic, the Olympics, like this is the Olympics event.
27:20
Speaker 5: You're not seeing the NHL is not strong arming their
27:23
Speaker 5: players when they go to the Olympics to play hockey.
27:28
Speaker 5: I don't want to see Major League Baseball do the
27:29
Speaker 5: same thing.
27:31
Speaker 1: No, many NHL teams, I think are hesitant with their players.
27:34
Speaker 1: I mean almost every time to participates if they're healthy,
27:37
Speaker 1: but they get worried about injuries. And I'm sure MLB
27:41
Speaker 1: teams will feel the same way. So this is not
27:42
Speaker 1: just for players, this is also for teams. Go back
27:45
Speaker 1: to the World Baseball Classic. Teams are annoying about the
27:48
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic and usage, and Rob Manford spoke publicly
27:51
Speaker 1: about all of this and said, this is different from
27:53
Speaker 1: the WBC in terms of timing. This is right in
27:55
Speaker 1: the middle of the season. They understand that guys need
27:58
Speaker 1: to ramp up and it's weird for say pitchers to
28:01
Speaker 1: necessarily be ready in the middle of spring training to
28:03
Speaker 1: be in high stress situations. They understand that they're like,
28:06
Speaker 1: in this case, we don't and we're sacrificing money and
28:10
Speaker 1: the way the schedule is put together. I'm not saying
28:12
Speaker 1: this is the right way, but I don't think they're
28:14
Speaker 1: off here. You don't want a situation where it just
28:17
Speaker 1: turns into a vacation for a number of players. I
28:20
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to be the case for many
28:21
Speaker 1: of them, but it might be for some.
28:23
Speaker 2: Right, you might be.
28:23
Speaker 1: Feeling the season a little bit.
28:25
Speaker 3: Why what what.
28:27
Speaker 2: Do you mean why would it be a vacation for
28:28
Speaker 2: players if they.
28:30
Speaker 1: Say, oh, I'm feeling a little bit of whatever, like
28:33
Speaker 1: many all stars do. I'm feeling a little bit of this,
28:36
Speaker 1: a bit of that.
28:37
Speaker 5: But I don't understand why. Like, you committed to be
28:40
Speaker 5: on the Olympics, you can say no, But if the
28:44
Speaker 5: guys that say yes, you're in, Like, I don't think
28:46
Speaker 5: those guys are committed. It's not going to be a
28:49
Speaker 5: case where major LYUE Baseball says Okay, these are the
28:51
Speaker 5: guys that are going you say no, Nope, you're suspended, Like,
28:56
Speaker 5: I don't think like if guys want a vacation, they're
28:58
Speaker 5: not going to say yes.
29:00
Speaker 2: Nope, nope, nope.
29:01
Speaker 1: You're misreading this invitation, not a yes invitation. If you
29:06
Speaker 1: are invited and then you say no, restricted list, that's
29:11
Speaker 1: not you're invited about Wait why.
29:15
Speaker 5: So so you're just gonna call Kevin? You gotta go.
29:19
Speaker 5: That's it.
29:20
Speaker 3: What?
29:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like the draft when you get
29:23
Speaker 1: drafted for a war.
29:24
Speaker 2: You gotta go.
29:25
Speaker 1: You got the call.
29:26
Speaker 4: That's not we're not But what if you have a
29:30
Speaker 4: show hey knee and you need it drained no.
29:35
Speaker 1: To be evaluated and you know who makes the final call.
29:38
Speaker 1: At least according to this first pitch, it's going to
29:41
Speaker 1: be your favorite who gets the final call, Roberto Jay Manfred.
29:47
Speaker 1: But okay, my point is proposals get thrown out there.
29:50
Speaker 1: This is what happens with the CBA. It's the same
29:51
Speaker 1: thing with the Olympics. The one part I'm going to
29:54
Speaker 1: defend here is I understand where the league is coming from.
29:57
Speaker 1: We're uprooting everything because it has been requested that players
30:01
Speaker 1: want to finally be involved in the Olympics. It is
30:04
Speaker 1: in the US. We're going to have the All Star
30:06
Speaker 1: Game in San Francisco, so it's right there. It's close
30:08
Speaker 1: to LA right. We're doing all of this to line
30:11
Speaker 1: it up. We don't want to look and be like, wait,
30:14
Speaker 1: we just gave a bunch of players a three week vacation, right,
30:17
Speaker 1: A ton of guys dropped out, and you've got guys in,
30:19
Speaker 1: but you've got too many guys out and they want
30:20
Speaker 1: to showcase the sport. That's the whole point here. It's
30:23
Speaker 1: like the best advertising that you can do for the sport, right,
30:25
Speaker 1: grow the game. So I get that, And how else
30:28
Speaker 1: do you prevent this from happening where guys, especially pitchers, guys,
30:33
Speaker 1: especially pitchers.
30:35
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, and I do understand that
30:38
Speaker 4: the timing of this is better, especially from a pitching standpoint.
30:42
Speaker 4: And did they say that they're going to extend the
30:45
Speaker 4: break for the Olympics, but they're not going to make
30:46
Speaker 4: up the games. The season would just be shorter. I
30:48
Speaker 4: want to be fair.
30:49
Speaker 1: No, No, they haven't announced this yet, but I would
30:51
Speaker 1: almost guarantee you that they'll just jam the season with
30:53
Speaker 1: less off days and more doubleheaders whatever. To still you're one,
30:56
Speaker 1: So I don't like that.
30:57
Speaker 4: I think, if you know, you make the something special
31:01
Speaker 4: that only comes around so many years. And I can't
31:03
Speaker 4: even say every four years because each summer Olympic host
31:08
Speaker 4: city determines what are the Olympic sports. The fact that
31:11
Speaker 4: it's in America, they're making baseball in Olympic sports, so
31:13
Speaker 4: we can't even call it every four years. I think
31:16
Speaker 4: they should just shorten the season. You want to get
31:18
Speaker 4: the best pitchers in the world to pitch in it,
31:20
Speaker 4: shorten the season. These guys kind of stay on their
31:23
Speaker 4: normal routine of pitching every five days. The innings kind
31:26
Speaker 4: of end up remotely around the same time. If you're
31:29
Speaker 4: asking the best pitchers in the world to go pitch
31:32
Speaker 4: and then have to go make up games on the
31:34
Speaker 4: back end. I don't think you're going to get the
31:36
Speaker 4: best players in the world to do it. And how
31:39
Speaker 4: to get these players? And I get what you're saying,
31:41
Speaker 4: Scott that if I got an invitation, and yes, I
31:44
Speaker 4: want to represent my country, but it's like, Okay, I
31:46
Speaker 4: could go play in the Olympics, or I can have
31:49
Speaker 4: a three week vacation. There's going to be some people
31:52
Speaker 4: that want to take some time off, you know, not
31:56
Speaker 4: to say that their vacation is not to say their
31:59
Speaker 4: vacation them traveling around Europe. I think the organ that
32:04
Speaker 4: the team's individual teams are going to maybe give the
32:06
Speaker 4: players a week off. Then they'd have to be in
32:08
Speaker 4: their host city. They'd probably be doing inner squads kind
32:11
Speaker 4: of staying game ready. Because that's a challenge for the
32:14
Speaker 4: players that don't go play too is it is a
32:16
Speaker 4: long time to be off, so there will be you know,
32:19
Speaker 4: workouts and things going on to keep those players fresh.
32:22
Speaker 4: But the simple answer to your question, Scott is how
32:24
Speaker 4: do I get these players to commit? It's compensation. No
32:28
Speaker 4: matter how much money players have, they can always use
32:32
Speaker 4: more So if you want these guys to commit the
32:34
Speaker 4: best players in the world, whether it's Major League Baseball,
32:37
Speaker 4: whether it's the Olympic Committee, whether it's USA Baseball, you
32:40
Speaker 4: compensate these guys, you know, a good fair amount of money,
32:44
Speaker 4: and most guys are probably gonna say yes, not only
32:47
Speaker 4: to the fact that they're going to get a chance
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Speaker 4: to represent their country, but they're going to get that
32:51
Speaker 4: added incentive of making more money.
32:54
Speaker 1: And it's two weeks, I guess Krats, you're correct to me, right, yeah,
32:57
Speaker 1: it's but still that's a July seventh, last day of
33:00
Speaker 1: games under this scenario, and then they would pick it
33:03
Speaker 1: back up on July.
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Speaker 2: Twenty first, and also a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: That's a long time. I mean, it's a once in
33:10
Speaker 1: a lifetime opportunity for a team that has a young
33:12
Speaker 1: pitcher to say, hey, Chase Burns, Hey Cam Schlitzler, we
33:15
Speaker 1: don't want you pitching. I'm not just talking about the
33:17
Speaker 1: players with this, I'm talking about teams. Teams are actually
33:19
Speaker 1: worse here. They're the offenders, right, They're going to pressure
33:22
Speaker 1: their pitchers to be.
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Speaker 4: Like, so, can we make the penalty? Can we make
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Speaker 4: the penalty on the can we make the penalty on
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Speaker 4: the organization. And I don't know what that looks back.
33:33
Speaker 4: But let's say let's say Cam Schultzer does get an
33:35
Speaker 4: invite and he's like, I want to do it. He
33:37
Speaker 4: runs it by the New York Yankees, and the Yankees
33:40
Speaker 4: say no, they should be penalized, not the players.
33:44
Speaker 3: Why.
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Speaker 5: That's why.
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Speaker 4: That's why I'm I don't know what that looks like,
33:48
Speaker 4: but that's where my gut tells me that that that's
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Speaker 4: where it needs. The penalty needs to be on the organization,
33:54
Speaker 4: not the player.
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Speaker 1: Trying to penalize your organization too by saying your player
33:57
Speaker 1: can't play again until August third.
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Speaker 5: No chance, no chance. The owners are trying to penalize
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Speaker 5: any other owners. I disagree.
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Speaker 1: Let's end with this. So you guys say there should
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Speaker 1: be none of this, right, Like, what's the conclusion to
34:11
Speaker 1: get players to play? None of this? You just say
34:12
Speaker 1: it's an invite.
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Speaker 2: If you play, you play.
34:14
Speaker 1: If you don't, you don't, Because I guarantee you most
34:16
Speaker 1: American pitchers are not going to want to participate.
34:18
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I disagree.
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Speaker 5: I disagree. You get one start, you get one star.
34:24
Speaker 4: Also think if they don't make a start. The I
34:26
Speaker 4: also think if they don't have to play the additional
34:29
Speaker 4: games and they're kind of staying within that kind of
34:32
Speaker 4: any limit that they're well, I think it should because,
34:36
Speaker 4: like I said, I know we have this idea of
34:38
Speaker 4: history of the rule book, but every let's just call
34:40
Speaker 4: it once every eight years, the summer Olympics are going
34:43
Speaker 4: to have baseball. No, I understand, but you're telling me.
34:47
Speaker 4: I know it's money. I know it's gates at all
34:49
Speaker 4: these certain stadiums. I know, I know money makes everything
34:52
Speaker 4: go round. But you're telling me that there's not a
34:55
Speaker 4: piece of it for all these franchises with their players
34:59
Speaker 4: playing in the Olympics. They're going to get their money.
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Speaker 1: No, they're not going to get paid much for the Olympics.
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Speaker 1: That's not a thing. And the IOC is a different
35:08
Speaker 1: beast and they don't give a crap. They will hold
35:09
Speaker 1: firm on that they're gonna give them the same thing
35:11
Speaker 1: the NHLers get, which is like tickets and nice accommodations.
35:15
Speaker 1: They're either getting little to no.
35:16
Speaker 4: People.
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Speaker 1: It's not going to Yeah, but it's not that's it's
35:20
Speaker 1: not a lot. So it's I'm just telling you guys,
35:23
Speaker 1: this is how it is, and that's why it's good.
35:24
Speaker 1: There's there's going to be a lot of back and
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Speaker 1: forth here, but the one side I do understand is
35:28
Speaker 1: we need the best pitchers participating in this or it's
35:32
Speaker 1: a crappier product.
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Speaker 5: I also, we're going to get the head of tm
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Speaker 5: USA ow because I've seen and been part of the
35:39
Speaker 5: whole making the roster for the Olympics. I was part
35:43
Speaker 5: of that, and he's the head of it. I'm really
35:46
Speaker 5: interested in seeing how it's going to be different if
35:49
Speaker 5: this whole thing goes through. Because everybody's in negotiations. To me,
35:54
Speaker 5: I think they're asking too much. Majorague Baseball is overstepping themselves,
35:59
Speaker 5: saying well, we pick you, you gotta go. No, no, no, no, no, no,
36:02
Speaker 5: this isn't this isn't war. No. I'm gonna do what
36:05
Speaker 5: I need to do.
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Speaker 4: Hey, I will say, I will. I will say. This
36:10
Speaker 4: is the first thing that has come out that I
36:14
Speaker 4: think they're actually somewhere in the same ballpark of actually
36:18
Speaker 4: coming to an agreement on something. I don't think it's
36:20
Speaker 4: so far off that it's unreasonable. I do think there
36:23
Speaker 4: are some things that need to be tweaked, but I
36:25
Speaker 4: don't think we're starting on opposite ends of the football
36:28
Speaker 4: field right now. I do think they are a little
36:29
Speaker 4: bit closer to coming to common ground. This is the
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Speaker 4: first thing that i've any sort of proposal I've seen
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Speaker 4: come out where I do feel like common ground is
36:38
Speaker 4: not impossible to get to.
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Speaker 1: I agree because this is also sneaky for players to
36:42
Speaker 1: get some protection against teams that are going to pressure
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Speaker 1: them to not participate. So there's a lot going on
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Speaker 1: here and it's a good debate. I'm glad we talked
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Speaker 1: it out. We'll have more of this