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I Am All In…Again: Feeling Euphoric for Gilmore Girls (Season 2 E10 “The Bracebridge Dinner”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in.
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  Speaker 2: All that's just you.
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  Speaker 3: I am all in with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one
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  Speaker 1: ELEVEE Productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcasts, Season two, Episode ten,
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  Speaker 1: The brace Bridge Jinner. Air date December eleventh, two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and one. I have a very very special guest, Hannah Brown,
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  Speaker 1: lifestyle expert, television personality, and two time New York Times
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  Speaker 1: best selling author. Her authenticity and charismatic personality have captured
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  Speaker 1: her millions of followers. Yes, I checked. She's got millions
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  Speaker 1: of followers and she continues to inspire and empower others. Hannah,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to this show. So what does Gilmore Girls mean
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  Speaker 1: to you at this point?
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  Speaker 3: I am a late bloomer when it comes to The
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  Speaker 3: Gilmour Girls. I just started watching.
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  Speaker 2: It this year.
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  Speaker 3: I actually I'd always seen it, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I.
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  Speaker 2: Could commit to that.
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  Speaker 3: It's so like for me, if it's not like three seasons,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard for me to like get into it. I
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  Speaker 3: just am busy and I'll want to go into the next.
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  Speaker 3: So I've always seen it and people have been like Canna,
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  Speaker 3: like you you are going to be obsessed with the
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  Speaker 3: show and I can't do it. But then I did this.
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  Speaker 3: I was doing it started because of therapy. I was
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  Speaker 3: doing this EMDR therapy plus doing this thing called neurofeedback,
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  Speaker 3: so it's it's helping train your brain. But the system
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  Speaker 3: that I did was I could pick. I needed to
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  Speaker 3: pick a show that, you know, I could watch while
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  Speaker 3: it's like connected to the screen, and what it's basically
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  Speaker 3: doing is training your brain to pick different narrow pathways.
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  Speaker 3: By doing that, it's very passive. And I'm watching a
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  Speaker 3: show as the screen goes darker and brighter, and the
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  Speaker 3: way to know that my brain like giving it like
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  Speaker 3: some positive reinforcements. It brightens up to where I can
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  Speaker 3: actually see the show clear. So I had to pick
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  Speaker 3: something to watch, and I was like, well, I guess
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  Speaker 3: this could be like my time to watch Gilmore Girls
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  Speaker 3: because I'm like helping my brain. So for me, Gilmore
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  Speaker 3: Girls like took something that like I was doing this
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  Speaker 3: experience or this you know, I guess type of therapy
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  Speaker 3: to just like help with my anxiety and everything. So
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  Speaker 3: like Gilmore Girls really feels like a safe place for me.
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  Speaker 3: I think it does for so many people. It's like
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  Speaker 3: something bad could happen in the next day, like luralize
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  Speaker 3: cracking jokes, and it's like moved on.
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  Speaker 2: In some way.
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  Speaker 3: And so I just feel like Gilmore Girls has just
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  Speaker 3: become like this like safety net almost for me in
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  Speaker 3: such a busy season. It's like the place that I
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  Speaker 3: can go to and like fully be immersed in.
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  Speaker 2: And it also has like positive.
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  Speaker 3: Feelings because I'm like, oh, I started watching the show
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  Speaker 3: to help my brain, and now it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like helped my life. So I love it so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I waited this long, but it's also been really
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  Speaker 3: cool because like in this season being so I have
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  Speaker 3: something that I'm like looking forward to at all times
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  Speaker 3: to get that to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting how you how you're saying this is
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  Speaker 1: because this is the experience. You know, this is a
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  Speaker 1: this is a pretty common experience. It's kind of rewiring
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  Speaker 1: the fan base. Fan bases brains to the point where
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  Speaker 1: you know, they are having this euphoric experience with the show,
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  Speaker 1: every interaction they have with the show, and then they
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  Speaker 1: want it when I meet them out there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they want to share that experience. Yeah, it has a
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  Speaker 1: healing component to it. There's something very fit therapy about
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  Speaker 1: this show, and it's so interesting that you made that connection.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it's cool because like obviously, like not everything's
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  Speaker 3: perfect like these Lurlai has like her own commitment things,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like I can really connect. My book
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  Speaker 3: is also about a girl who that that has struggled
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  Speaker 3: with commitment and fully being all in because of her past.
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  Speaker 3: And you get to actually see like Laura Li's past
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  Speaker 3: and like have compassion for why she is the way
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  Speaker 3: that she is, and then all the things that are
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  Speaker 3: so lovable about her. And it's just like it brings
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  Speaker 3: these like happy moments, but it's actually real life experiences
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  Speaker 3: and not getting it right every time and sometimes making
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  Speaker 3: the wrong decisions and miscommunication. And so it's so cool
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  Speaker 3: to have a show that like balances that in such
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  Speaker 3: a beautiful way that you're you're not like feeling anxious
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  Speaker 3: watching it because somebody's not getting it right or you know,
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  Speaker 3: you feel the anxiety between the family dynamics. It's it
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  Speaker 3: can still keep you like even killed while also having
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  Speaker 3: like real experiences.
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  Speaker 1: That right, and also on the other side of that,
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  Speaker 1: it's not you know, she's not getting through the characters
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  Speaker 1: not getting through their issues so easily because they're insulting
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  Speaker 1: the audience to the point, well, we don't want to
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  Speaker 1: put the audience through all this, and like no, the
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  Speaker 1: Amy and Dan do want to put the audience through it,
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  Speaker 1: but they want to make us laugh while we go
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  Speaker 1: through it. Yeah, and it's it's and it's amazing, really
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  Speaker 1: an amazing way they do all this. All right, so
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  Speaker 1: let's get into the episode Bracebridge Dinner. The Independence end
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  Speaker 1: hosting its nineteenth century Bracebridge Dinner, but the group that
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  Speaker 1: booked out the the event is snowed in in Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: so they have to go to Plan B, which is
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  Speaker 1: invite the entire town. What do you think about the
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  Speaker 1: Bracebridge Dinner? Would you go to something like that?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely? I would have loved to do it too, something
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 3: It reminds me, I'm from Alabama and we had this
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  Speaker 3: uh it's like we had this uh like school field
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  Speaker 3: trip that you went on in fourth grade where you
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  Speaker 3: had to go and you like re enacted this whole
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  Speaker 3: thing dinner. I think one of the best days, one
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  Speaker 3: of my favorite field trips. So I would have been
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  Speaker 3: totally down to be a part of a dinner like this, right,
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  Speaker 3: especially in uh with with all my fellow like if
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  Speaker 3: that could have been my dinner party, like simn me up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, just to go to dinner with Sally Strailers
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  Speaker 1: is worth. Let me tell you. Let me tell you
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  Speaker 1: should keep you in stitches. So Luke shares uh you
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  Speaker 1: know about his white lives to Jess, which is you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's I guess it's you'd call that kind of sweet
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  Speaker 1: because it shows he's protecting Jess and yet Laurela I
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  Speaker 1: believes Jess can see through them. What did you think
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  Speaker 1: of that?
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  Speaker 3: I think, Laura I, you know, Luke is doing his
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  Speaker 3: absolute best, and I love his dynamic with Jess, but
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Loralai, it's so like her relationship with
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  Speaker 3: Rory can really help her with Luke being able to
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  Speaker 3: be like, I know you think you're doing this parenting
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  Speaker 3: thing right and that like you did your best, but
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  Speaker 3: he knows.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think Laurai, obviously we know LOURAI
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  Speaker 2: was spot on that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think you know when your parents, when
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  Speaker 3: your parents aren't really showing up for you, when and
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  Speaker 3: when somebody else is and it is trying to protect
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  Speaker 3: you and Jess. I think was just trying to probably
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  Speaker 3: make Luke feel better.
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  Speaker 1: In a little heartbreaking that you go to see if
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  Speaker 1: the kid like that, and it's just you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to hurt him again. But she was right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she'd been there, done that. Yeah, So it was like
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  Speaker 1: it was like, hey, dude, you know he knows. But
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  Speaker 1: you know that that's the kind of interaction between those two,
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  Speaker 1: that easy interaction that actually draws them closer together and
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  Speaker 1: makes them trust each other there a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It's one of those nice moments based on
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  Speaker 1: something that's somewhat tragic, you know, for for Jess anyway,
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  Speaker 1: but at least their hearts are in the right place
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  Speaker 1: and they're trying totally navigating life. Let's let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: the sleigh ride between Luke and Loreli. They're together. He
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have his hat on. What's up with that? He
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  Speaker 1: had the hat off? Did that throw you a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: With the no hat whenever he doesn't have I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you know he was he was coming for the dinner.
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  Speaker 2: He's trying to be glassy.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you're not gonna wear a hat.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna wear a hat to dinner. But I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's you. But like, I just
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  Speaker 3: love the backward hat. It's just really it was.
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  Speaker 2: A good look for Luke. So it's not a lie.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, from Alabama, I love a little
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  Speaker 3: blade shirt, backwards hat moment.
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  Speaker 2: You know you already had the longer hair. It was great.
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  Speaker 3: But I appreciate Luke for trying to, you know, be
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  Speaker 3: a little classy for the establishment that he was in.
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  Speaker 2: But I love that moment.
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  Speaker 3: I I mean, I'm you know, I'm now in season six,
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  Speaker 3: but like, just the tension between Luke and Laurli is
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  Speaker 3: the best.
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  Speaker 2: It is the best part of the whole show.
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  Speaker 3: And it's my favorite whenever they're together and they have
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  Speaker 3: these sweet moments, it's it's the best.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that was. I got so lucky with that.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes in life you get lucky, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was It's magic. It's true magic.
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  Speaker 1: It's just one of those things, one of those things.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to Jess and Dean. So we see Dean
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  Speaker 1: breaks up a fight between Jess and another student. What
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  Speaker 1: was a kid's name? This the other student of.
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  Speaker 2: The Talk or something or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, Dean comes. Dean comes to the dinner with Clara,
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  Speaker 1: but it's disappointed to see Jess at the dinner. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: poor Poortine. He's just they're constantly putting this kid through
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  Speaker 1: the gauntlet man with this Jess character. It's a good
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  Speaker 1: use of you know, how they use the characters. So
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  Speaker 1: we see that Jess kind of it looks like he
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  Speaker 1: jumps out of a tree and into the carriage and
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  Speaker 1: the sleigh. I mean it was just so jarring and abrupt,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like, whoa where did he come from?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it looked like he was coming from a
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  Speaker 1: downward angle.
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's like he was doing like parkour in
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  Speaker 2: some way. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy who gets into a fight
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  Speaker 1: with the kid who's a class jerk. It's established, right,
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  Speaker 1: Dean helps him, right, But now Jess is jumping out
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  Speaker 1: of a tree to get into the sleigh with his girlfriend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what's that all about?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I've gone on.
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  Speaker 3: To social media eyes. I've been watching this show and
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  Speaker 3: it's so interesting. I'm sure obviously you know, like all
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  Speaker 3: the people are who are team Jess, And I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning, I was not a team Jess.
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  Speaker 2: At all because I was like he is.
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  Speaker 3: Just like and it feels like he didn't like treat
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  Speaker 3: Rory right, especially you know eventually and and Dean is
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  Speaker 3: so especially especially at this point, so sweet, good guy,
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  Speaker 3: good guy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, he's such a good guy for Rory. It's sweet.
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  Speaker 2: But you there's all.
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  Speaker 3: But then there's also this like palpable chemistry between Jess
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  Speaker 3: and Rory, and especially during that scene when they're on
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  Speaker 3: the carriage, Like it's true when Jess is just like,
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  Speaker 3: what are you even talking about? Because like it's cool,
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  Speaker 3: like Jess has this whole life per song, he's like
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  Speaker 3: this bad boy, but yet he him and Rory have
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  Speaker 3: so much in common when we do to like what
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  Speaker 3: like what they love, Like truly, when you when you
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  Speaker 3: take off the mask of Jess just having to protect
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  Speaker 3: himself with his whole life, like there might not have
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  Speaker 3: been much difference had he not grown up in the
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  Speaker 3: app with the the parents that he had and he
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  Speaker 3: just had to create this falseic seria of who he
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  Speaker 3: actually is.
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  Speaker 2: Like I definitely have compassion for that, but.
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  Speaker 3: Gosh, like as you said, like things, just trying to
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  Speaker 3: do his best.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was a really important scene between Jess
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, and You're right about it, because there's this
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  Speaker 1: knowing that Jess has, and even Rory like, really, why
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  Speaker 1: are you with this guy? You know, I've been in
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  Speaker 1: class with him. He doesn't really like kind of get
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  Speaker 1: the literary references, like has he read the books you've read?
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  Speaker 1: You know? I mean this is what he's implying.
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  Speaker 2: He's just a good guy, right, He's just a good guy.
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  Speaker 1: But long term, and like, why are you spending your
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  Speaker 1: time with him? You can be spending your time with me,
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  Speaker 1: and we read the same books and we have the
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  Speaker 1: same kind of I don't know, artistic side. Yes, you
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  Speaker 1: know we have. There's you know, they're both a little dark.
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  Speaker 1: Dean doesn't really have any darkness, does he. I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's just a what you see is what you get
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  Speaker 1: with him.
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  Speaker 2: I love people like Dean. I wish I was a
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  Speaker 2: person like Diana.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm like, it must be nice to be that
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  Speaker 3: light and right right, But like you said, like Rory
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  Speaker 3: and just just have this magnetic something to them. But
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  Speaker 3: I think sometimes Rory doesn't want to have that darkness
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  Speaker 3: about her, and so like you want to be with
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  Speaker 3: somebody that just keeps you in the light, where just
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  Speaker 3: kind of brings out that other side of her that
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  Speaker 3: even maybe you know from her mom, like Lorelai doesn't
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  Speaker 3: wants her to stay in the light and be with
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  Speaker 3: somebody that keeps that doesn't maybe challenge her. I think
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  Speaker 3: just right challenges her and maybe would make her challenges
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  Speaker 3: to be herself, which means when you're like full of yourself,
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  Speaker 3: like you're gonna make mistakes, You're gonna get it wrong sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: And I think I just wants to protect her daughter
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  Speaker 3: and be with somebody that she knows is not going
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  Speaker 3: to push her.
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  Speaker 4: Any who else challenges her logan, Yes, logan really challenges Yes,
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  Speaker 4: I mean in other ways to totally.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But that's a whole kind of that's a different dynamic.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm in season six right now, so like
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  Speaker 3: I'm in fully the dynamic of it right now, and
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  Speaker 3: it's so you just feel the tension of like, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 3: is this gonna.
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  Speaker 2: This could work?
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  Speaker 3: Is it going to work? I don't know. I'm kind
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  Speaker 3: of scared. That's where I'm just like in I can't
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  Speaker 3: remember what season episode I'm on, but it's and it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of hard to see Rory question herself, but like
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  Speaker 3: she has to to grow and so being with people
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  Speaker 3: like Jess and it's very different than you know as
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  Speaker 3: you see her with Dean.
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  Speaker 1: There's two schools here when I think about who is better,
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  Speaker 1: like who's a baby daddy? And who should it be?
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  Speaker 1: And who do you want it to be? And there's
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  Speaker 1: for me, there's like two schools. There's like what Luke
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  Speaker 1: as a real person or Laura I as a real person.
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  Speaker 1: The whole town is real people living that experience want
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  Speaker 1: for Rory. You know what they want? Is it Jess
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  Speaker 1: or is it Logan? Because it's not going to be.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be Jess. Or Look, who's the baby daddy?
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  Speaker 1: Who do you want it to be? Who I want
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  Speaker 1: it to be? Who I think as Luke is Jess
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  Speaker 1: because he's blood and I think he's going to evolve
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  Speaker 1: into a more mature He's got a lot of maturity
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  Speaker 1: intellectually speaking, emotionally, he's got to catch up. When he does,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be this great guy and he's still
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  Speaker 1: going to have that edge. He's still going to have
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  Speaker 1: a little darkness, but he's going to love her freely.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to be able to get out of his
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  Speaker 1: own way and really be a great husband and father
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  Speaker 1: to her. You know that's in him. It's in him.
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  Speaker 1: He just needs to live life a little more and
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  Speaker 1: figure it out. Right. But in terms on the other
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  Speaker 1: side of me, the other school is for me, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: what's best for the storytelling, what's best for the tension.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's Logan because project just ten years out,
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  Speaker 1: two kids with Rory, three kids with Rory versus Logan
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  Speaker 1: ten years out, super successful guy or not three two
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  Speaker 1: three kids? Who's more likely to cheat? I'm always saying
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  Speaker 1: Logan for sure, and that's better for the storytelling for sure.
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  Speaker 1: If we're going to get more seasons or more episodes,
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  Speaker 1: if it isn't Logan, then you'll lose Jess as a
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  Speaker 1: guy who comes in and is always the guy. So
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  Speaker 1: Jess is really kind of like the Luke where it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like Jess is the Luke's.
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  Speaker 1: The Luke's He's the Luke to Rory's Laureley, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like one of these two going to get together because
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  Speaker 1: it's so the chemistry's so great and they're so right
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  Speaker 1: and they should be together. But I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: think that that Logan is a better version of a Christopher.
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  Speaker 1: He's like a young Christopher with his act together. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: certain a lot more than Christopher was at that same
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  Speaker 1: age and better prospects long term. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like, well yeah, because like for me,
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  Speaker 3: I think, like I don't fully I mean, this shows
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  Speaker 3: there's not too many bilers because I've seen every I
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  Speaker 3: mean on for so long. But with Logan, I feel like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Rory is kind of living out like the other version
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  Speaker 3: of what laural life life could have been like if
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  Speaker 3: she had not had Rory, and like exactly, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you kind of love I have like a soft spot
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  Speaker 3: for Christopher, and like you see that, and so you
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  Speaker 3: kind of want to see what that life would be like,
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  Speaker 3: what that would have been like even you know, we
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  Speaker 3: have loural life story, but like you want to see that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So for a story, I totally agree. I'm more intrigued
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: by her with Logan for what could all come of
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: that and the tension of class and all that, Like
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: that is what's so fun?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: All that tension. Yeah, it's and it could come apart
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: every episode really easily. She could be facing Rory, could
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: be facing the same level of condescension from that family
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and stress and storylines that you know, you could see
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: like Luke facing when he tries to come into the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Gilmour house. It's like, who is this inappropriate person? He
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't dress, you know, and I think that's how high
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: falutin the the What the Huntsburgers are, Yeah, I mean
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: what a name, right, I mean the Palatine has even
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: gave it that name Huntsburger. Well.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I love that episode when it's like, but I'm a
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Gilmore because like Rory had always like when she meets
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: that family for the first time, like like that name
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: for Luke, you know, they made him feel like so
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: below and then Rory's having to have that same experience.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: He's like, wait, I haven't had to have this experience.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Because being a Gilmore kind of like.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: That was my grandparents like token, like I fit where
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: my mom bitten, and now I know what it feels
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: like to not fit right and having It's just cool
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: how the writers made it to where, you know, Laura
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Life tried so hard to make Rory have everything, have
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: the emotional connect connection and closeness that she didn't get
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: from her parents, but also all the opportunities that you know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: being in that family could provide and wanted her to
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: have something totally different, but like as you watch it,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: you see that, like Rory still has to go through
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of the same similar experiences, maybe just like
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: different model.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Of Laura Lie.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: And it's so interesting to kind of just watch that
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: and that's isn't that light life and what our parents,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: like every parent tries to do. It's like it just
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: make it a little bit better, easier, but we still
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: all have to we have to go through this.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Human experience.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: And it's gonna come with a lot of getting love wrong, loss,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: feeling like not good enough, not worthy, and watching Laura
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I like, I mean, Laurai is my favorite character. I
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: don't I don't know how she can't be like she's
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the best, like just watching her like try to help
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Rory through it, knowing trying so hard to take a
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: back seat, but then just always being there for her
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: and protecting her when like the thing that she really
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: wanted to protect her from Rory does anyway, Like so.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So good too. Well, let's get into you know, Richard's
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: retirement was a big storyline in this episode and had
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: great impact. So he doesn't tell Emily about it, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: he's incredibly happy. Yeah, you know, he's got the monkey
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: off his back for the first time for forty years.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: He's free as a bird. He's feeling great, but nobody
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: knows why. And then we find out at the Brave's
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Bridge dinner it slips out. What are your thoughts on this?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Was he in the wrong for not telling her?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Or was he just I understand why he doesn't tell her.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I mean he doesn't everyone kind of understand why he
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't tell her.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I love Emily.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I think she's like such an amazing character as well,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and but yeah, I think there's a pressure with her,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and I think he was done with the pressure and
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: just wanted to be able to not have to go
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: into all the details of what this means now that
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: he's retired and just kind of live in it. And
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: eventually they do, of course, they're going to have to
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: get into the details of what does this mean Richard
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: being retired? But I kind of love that he got
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: to just like be happy and in the moment and
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: feel good about retirement, even though we all know.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: How I just just seeing his life, like how much
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: is he gonna actually love retirement? We'll see, but.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: That he got to at least live in those feelings
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: of truly being happy and accept it, like it was
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: so fun to see and fun to see like Emily
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: just trying to like go with it and be like,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: what is going on?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: He's right?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: But I loved I loved his monologue. I loved his
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that scene late at night down in the living room
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the lobby of the Dragonfly, when he said I didn't
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: expect to resign, but as I kept talking to the CEO,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I kept getting a little languier, and you know, I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: realized that I just wanted to walk away. And what
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a what a great speech. Does you know what? I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: want to get into your book. I know you don't
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: have a lot of time. You're super busy, You're doing
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: so many things. But let's get into your book a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: little bit. Okay, Uh, the Four Engagement Rings of Sybil
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Rain and this is going to be your second fiction book,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: fourth overall? What inspired this one? So?
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Uh, this book is my second, like you said, romance novel.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: And what started the whole thing is I wanted to
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: write a book about love stories but also how our
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: friends are some of the big the best love stories
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: that we have in our life, and how they support
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: us in those big moments when we fall in love,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: when love hurts us, when we have heartbreaking, when we
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: do ad evident that happily ever after. And so the
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: first idea was to write about these this core for
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: group of best friends.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And my first one.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Was about Emma and the setting of that book was
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: at this new book, Sybil Rain, the main character, at
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: her wedding weekend that does not go as planned. And
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: so as I was writing that first book, I knew, Okay,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: I've got to write about this runaway bride and why
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: she didn't commit to this lovely man or where did
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: she go? And so this book takes place a year
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: after the wedding gone wrong, and she's just wanting to
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: have a break of vacation. So she takes her honeymoon
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: ticket vouchers and goes on a nice.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Vacation to Hawaii to.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Not run into one but two of her ex fiances
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: and really has to, you know, get really slapped in
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: the face with her past and that she can't really
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: run from it anymore. And I really wanted to get
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: into which is so interesting because I started writing this
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: book before I started watching Gilmore Girls, and what I've
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: related to with Laura life so much. It's kind of
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: that fear of commitment and getting it wrong. That's a
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: lot of what Sybil struggles with, like the commitment when
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: like your past seems to just always beat you to
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: the love that you really deserve, so that you can't
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: fully receive what is right in front of you because
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: of these gnawing thoughts and feelings of the past and
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: not going right. And so that's really what the book
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: is about, is Sybil having to have that confrontation with
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: her past and learning to love herself first fully to
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: be able to receive the love that is right in
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: front of her.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And so I feel like any who.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Loves Loreli would love Sybil because they are so similar,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: like the light, the shiny, bright, fun thing that everybody
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: wants to be around. But when you really break it down,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: is it really fun to be Sybil? Like in those
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: thoughts in that, you know, holding yourself back and watching
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: somebody over you know, and getting to read about this
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: character overcoming that it's really fun and finding her happily
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: ever after.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Do you see this as something that could be turned
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: into a TV show or a film? And if so,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: who do you want to play Sybil?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I would love that that would be a dream come true.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I feel like there could be so many people, and
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: you know, these things are so I don't really get
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: to pick who if this became a series, But like
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney, I feel like would be so fun because
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: she has this kind of like lightness of out her
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: but seeing some of the roles that she's played, there's
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: still like this dark this darkness that Sybil has that
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like Sydney could could be able to keep
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: both at play, So I think she could be a great.
• 28:15
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• 28:19
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• 28:31
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• 28:34
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