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Q&A With My Fiancé: Getting Him To Lead, Doing The Work, Dating Tips & More · Beyond Limits With Olivia Marie

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_03: Hello everyone and welcome back to the podcast.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so excited for today's episode.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna dive in in a second.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_03: It is with my fiance.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_03: It was so fun to bring him on.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you guys asked a bunch of questions on Instagram and we took them, we chatted.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_03: Such a good conversation.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_03: You guys are going to love it.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_03: I will leave the links for everything I talk about down below.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm gonna leave the link for Land the Man that we mentioned the episode down below.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_03: And if we want a part two with him, we we can definitely do that.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_03: So just DM me on Instagram if you feel like you want a part two with him and we can ask more questions.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_03: But it was super fun.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_03: Let's go ahead and dive into the episode.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the Live Well Podcast.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_03: I'm your host, Liv, and Matropathic Doctor, 70 Energy Healer, a cautious reader, intuitive, and energetic business mentor.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_03: I help you feel on a physical and emotional level so that you can feel delicious in your health, body, relationships, career, and bank account.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_03: And this show is for those of you looking to really go beyond that basic function stuff and really create a life that you like.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: In these episodes, we will have an honest conversation without the fluffy and both check.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_03: We get to the point so that you can walk away with the inside tools and tips to truly live your best life, mind, body, and soul.
• 1:13
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• 1:16
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• 1:22
  SPEAKER_03: And with that, let's get into the show.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, guys, welcome back to the podcast.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_03: After my fiance just told me my hair is too blue because apparently I left purple shampoo in too late.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_03: I'm excited for this podcast.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_03: It was highly requested.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_03: I took a bunch of questions from Instagram.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, some of them both of us will answer because some of them pertain to both of us, some of them just he will answer.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm so excited for you guys to get a perspective from a guy.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_03: Also, when it comes to leading, when it comes to you being in your feminine, him being this masculine.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I just think it's always interesting because men and men think differently, and this might also help you in your relationships or attracting a potential partner.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_03: So let's go ahead and dive into the questions.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, this is a good one.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_03: So, number one, you want what you let's actually say hi first.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: Hello.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_03: You're so nervous, it's so funny.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, what was the first thing that attracted you to me?
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: Your eyes and the photo of Mand.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_03: So what what about my eyes?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that they're blue, or like it's just blue, and it's just like when I looked into them, it's like you get that first glance, you know that feeling.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like I still couldn't believe the fact when you actually responded.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: I had to triple check online to make sure you were actually a real person because I wasn't a thousand percent sure if you were real or not.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_03: You thought you were running catfish?
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Thousand percent.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: There's no way someone's that good looking.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's impossible.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_03: Did you have to was my Instagram like linked?
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: Did you confirm through like my Instagram or how did you I'm good online?
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_03: Well, thank you.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_03: There's a couple more questions like that, so I'll sprinkle those in.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_03: But this one I thought was really good.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_03: How did Live inspire you to be more in your masculine?
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_03: So was there anything big or small that I did, or maybe that I consistently do that you feel allows you to do something?
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe not to compare it to like maybe people in the past, but like differences you notice with me that allowed you to really step up and lead.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: I almost want to.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe you don't even know what I do, maybe I do it so covertly that you don't even know.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like the way you're not um like wounded in that sense.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like there is a lot of scenarios where in past relationships where if I were to want to do something, it would be frowned upon, even if it's like if I want to go play volleyball, but my partner's not comfortable with me doing that.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: With you, there is no fear in that sense of like if I want to go do something, it's yeah, go ahead, go enjoy.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_03: So you then I from that, what I'm gathering is me doing the work on myself and being more secure in myself and not being, you know, angst-attached or jealous or any of that kind of gives you that breathing room.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Correct, a thousand percent.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: I've never experienced something like this before, and it took a bit of getting used to because it's adjusting to someone who is so in their power and so comfortable with themselves where I've never experienced that before in my life.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_03: I remember that, and even to this day, like the examples you give of other people, I'm like, I would just never act like that.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_03: Like, why would I be jealous?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_03: Like, no, go play Volvo, like I don't give a shit.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_03: I get my space and do my thing, I get the house to myself.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: It still boggles my mind sometimes, Lloyd, how much you and like you can just be on your own and it's fine and it's fantastic.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: Not gonna lie, don't have to worry.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_03: So, message to the women listening if you want them to be more on your masculine, make sure you're secure and holding yourself first, which you guys know I've said to you before.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_03: But if you're anxiously attached, maybe you've been cheated on the past, maybe you're just really worried, whatever it is that your wounding is around men, make sure you heal that because those wounds are gonna come out in your relationship with how you trust them, how much space you give them, if you're nagging them all the time, if you're making them feel like they need to always maybe be home, that they can't go out and have guy nights, whatever it is.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_03: Ooh, this is really good.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_03: And actually, I think there was another question kind of like this one.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_03: How to detect the man in the app who really wants a relationship, not hookups?
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_03: So when you because we met on the app, for those of you who haven't listened to episode one, how I manifested the love of my life, go listen to that one.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_03: But we met on the app, we met on hinge.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: Is there something that you did or that you think like guys do that show that they're into hookups versus into something more?
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_03: Or were you even into something or looking for something more when you were on?
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, definitely looking for something more.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: I always played off the premises of I would introduce myself like like morning, like how are you?
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: How's your day going?
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's not that typical one-liner to get a girl interested, but I wasn't, in my eyes, I'm not looking to try and use a one-liner to grab a girl's attention.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: If I can, if you can hold the conversation normally like how you would a normal day, like I'm not going to walk up to, say, a woman in the street and try and use a one-liner.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's corny and cheesy for me.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: I kind of old school in that sense of you should treat a lady like a lady and approach it how I would in person.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_03: But if you were looking for a hookup, like how can someone, because she's asking how to detect hookup versus relationship, as a guy, if you wanted a hookup versus you wanted a relationship, how would you act differently to like potential people on the apps?
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like maybe if you were still at the time where you didn't want a relationship, would you have acted differently?
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_03: Would you have been more either aloof?
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_03: Is it the words that you use?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_03: Is it the activities that you would do with her?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: I would say probably almost the activities in that sense of you can kind of dictate where you want the night to go if like you wanted to say, like, go for dinner in a movie, or let's go for dinner and then go back to grass.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: If you're not doing for me, especially being someone who is active, I thoroughly enjoy kind of pushing that envelope, like going and actually doing activities.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: But like putting going for dinner in the first date is a ton of pressure for someone.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: You should kind of do an activity that's a little bit more relaxing to break them in so you can kind of actually make that connection versus where if they're trying to just do things that I don't know.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_03: Then they won't want to build, they won't like make this space to talk or make that connection, they're kind of like you'll know.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think you can kind of gauge by somebody like once you first meet them within probably about the first hour of probably what their intentions are based on because like how someone can talk online and how they talk in person can be very different.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_00: And the energy that they'll put out is you can generally see when someone's a fuck boy or not.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: And even like now, would you also say that like you would if you were looking for more of like a relationship, not a hookup, that you would put more like invest more into the person, whether it's monetarily, whether it's time, like taking her out for something, or maybe bringing flowers, something like that.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_03: Is that would you agree?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: I would say yes, in that sense of like it all comes back to like monetary, especially in the beginning, is to like woo the person.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're investing into that person that you're seeking, you're definitely going to probably like you know when you're going on a date with somebody that you're just like I'm here for fun, and that's it, no battle.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you're looking to spend the time and like for me, also it's like I generally will try and make someone wait and have a conversation for a long time.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: And like, I don't want to like start chatting, like, hey, let's meet up tomorrow.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_03: So if they did, then they may just want to like get it in.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: I would generally try and push conversations for two or three weeks because to me it's like the intellectual part is just as hard as the physical, because if I am not stimulated intellectually with you, I'm beyond board.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I like that answer.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_03: So I feel like that's helpful for them to detect.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: What did you experience while I was manifesting you?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_03: Did you experience anything?
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know, like before I met you or anything like that.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_03: What wouldn't yeah.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: Did you feel like oh you knew something was coming?
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Were you trying to manifest me?
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's like an interesting question.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: I I was in my own journey at that point for sure, from even like a year prior of starting to kind of find myself and what I was truly looking for or connecting with.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: And like Alberta kind of started that thing when the first time I went to Marine Lake and basically sat in front of that water for eight hours.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: And that was kind of I think the first time my body fully decompressed, and being my lovely generator self, it's like you could actually just decompress and just sit there and relax and enjoy.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's kind of when the transition started, I would say.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: For if you want to say, like, if you were manifesting me, that would probably be the journey that started to really change the way who I was.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_03: So, like you were opening and going through your own thing to be able to hold a relationship as I was calling you it.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like two years ago, I was in no shape to be in a long-term relationship, not at all.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm all glad I manifested you quickly.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I did.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_03: At what moment did he realize that you were the one?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_03: What stood out to him?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_03: This is gonna be a nice little ego episode for me.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_03: What's the moment you realized?
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_03: I think I've asked you this before.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_03: No, you have to share.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_03: Or what like yeah, or the the thing about me that made you realize that I was not.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's that first initial photo in there.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: And we had that same location on the profile.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: That was one of the things.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_03: So you knew I was the one before you met me.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: Is that what you're saying?
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: Aww.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Sounds so corny.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_03: No, I like it.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_03: The women like to hear this.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Kills me inside uh to say that.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like because that place had such meaning to me, and that photo was almost the exact same position where.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it wasn't like the exact same position.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_03: That was the sign for me.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, that is literally the reason I swiped whatever the direction is for yes.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: But so that stood out.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_03: That's what stood out is that we had like the same photo.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: I think that was like a divine sign, because honestly, I think that was the like that was the reason I swiped.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, oh, it can't be bad.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: We're had the exact same photo of my favorite place on earth.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: That that and then even just like doing like preliminary research into someone who has before I meet them.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you held conversations, we talked a lot before we met, and that was a huge thing for me, versus just like a person who just wants to kind of hang out, get it in, get it out, not interested.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: Had no intention for that.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: I would have, if I sensed it, I would have shut it down immediately.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_03: What are three attractive features in Live?
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_03: Are we talking like they say three attractive features, it could be inside, outside, I don't care.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Your true caringness that is the not no ability to actually do harm.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: When you you actually don't know how to be truly mean and be harmful.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: You're too full of love and joy.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: Disgusting saying that.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: But yes, it's true.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um I mean like the other, yes, like hovering my mouth, okay?
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: The mic, yes.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um your eyes, for sure, like they captivate your soul.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and not even gonna take the words in my mouth, but yes, they do.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's you could just look at them forever and I plan on it.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: So this lifetime or in the next.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then I mean, I'm not gonna lie, like I'm still a guy at the end of the day and you have a rock and bond, so I'm not gonna lie.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_03: No, that's fine.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's when people say that they're not also attracted to physical, like you can be attracted to different physiques, but like there's also some sort of level of physical adjustments.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like being inspired.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm an athletic person, and I generally would like my partner to be able to hike to a mountaintop with me, and I'm not feeling like I'm killing them on the way up, taking them there.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: So the fact is, and you also hike faster than I do, which is just weird.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: But my real never hearing read anything that I'm losing in the sport, but yes.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_03: I like all of those, but even with your last one, like as much as yeah, okay, I agree.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like, yes, I rock and bought your reasoning was so that I can get up the mountain with you, so that I can do activities with you.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's not like I'm sure you also enjoy it visually, but I also like that you add it in because like you value health, you value you know, doing outdoor activities, and if the person you were with was someone who didn't enjoy that, then that wouldn't be for you.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, prior to you, one of the first things I would ever do is generally if I was interested in someone, I would take them on a hike, and that told me everything in the first 10 minutes of watching them walk on how they hiked.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: If it was going to be a okay, we can potentially move to the next step, or okay, let's get the fuck out of here because they're gonna die.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_03: Well, lucky me.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, we have another good one.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_03: His first impression of you, why he was magnetized to you.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: So let's go when you first saw me face to face.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: I still like couldn't believe what I saw online and what I saw in person.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: It got better in person.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm a photographer.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: There most times you photos are generally better, but no.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Real life is much better.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: It added that pizzazz that I was I was I was like beyond infatuated with you in like every facet, and then when I finally saw you and made that connection, and you get that like full body fuck yes, yeah, that was pretty much like I'm intuitive, but I don't question my intuitiveness.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: When my body is a yes, I follow it tooth and nail all the way through.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_03: And was there anything about my energy that was like a yes?
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Besides it's just you complement my energy immensely.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_03: I think we do.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_03: And it like we really honestly do.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, I am a high-energy human being.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: He's a 3-5 generator for everyone curious.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: I can go all day long non-stop.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm the biggest projector you've ever seen in your life.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, it offsets it very much where if I'm in the mood to just go, go, go, you can bring me down, and I just feel when I'm around you, my energy is much more calm.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: When I'm away from you, it's generally much more chaotic, and there's much more flying around, going around.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's kind of exhausting watching generators, not gonna lie.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, next question.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_03: Has he ever felt the way he does now in a relationship?
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like, no, because you said the like no woman's ever been this secure, not jealous, freedom.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_00: I've never been able to.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: I still sometimes forget that you are the way you are and how comfortable you are with like me just going to do what I want, as long as I communicate.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: And this is, I think, for a big thing for guys is that like society has fucked us up so badly in how we were the media wants us to communicate.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just like if you're just clear with your intentions, that's really all women want.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: You try and play games and misdirect, it ends up just causing you more problems.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I find that with you, it's like you can actually be just fully directed, like, hey, I'm gonna be here, this is what I'm doing.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, bye.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: There's no jealousy, there's no fear that I'm gonna get my head ripped off for doing what I want to do.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: And can't say I ever felt that before, and it's still even today, like just every day getting used to that, it's still a mind fuck every time it happens.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, because it's conditioning for so long, but like it's still surprising.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm glad you never felt this way.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: I've never felt this way either, for anyone wondering.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um where's your questions?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Come on.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I answered all of mine in the manifesting love.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean, there's more questions people can always ask me for part two.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe we can have you grill me next time.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: So the next one is when did he know?
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm guessing it's the first time you met me.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_03: Like you knew when we were talking, but then when like you saw me face to face, it solidified.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this the in-fate the in-person first meeting was just kind of more of like the cherry on top of already feeling the way I did.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: And it just confirmed everything that I was already feeling towards you.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, go ahead.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: When did you know you were ready to seek a significant other from a guy's point of view?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what told you you were ready?
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: Is it like an age thing?
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: Is it like a point of your life thing?
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: I would the age to a certain extent, but like I would say for sure the your mindset itself as a guy, when you're when you enjoy someone's company because you enjoy it, versus like you're so you're just like physically attracted to that person, and I find that's a big thing.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you can have a physical attraction with someone, but when you have that deeper connection, that's when things really start to kind of unfold to the next level of a relationship or in a connection at that point, where like you have that first layer, which is mostly physical and like some meaningless meaningless conversations at that point, but when you just kind of go past that door and you go into the next step over which is like a deeper person, like I'm generally very guarded when it comes to that down.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, you did.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very guarded, no one knows my secrets deep down.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: I guard them, you will not get to them.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: It is impossible.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: I will shut it down.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: You're the only one who's ever gotten in there past those walls.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: And I got that on day one.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: I remember like you were you basically talked the whole time.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: I think I said like five words, and I was just prompting the questions, and you were just spilling your gut, and I was like, this is fun.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: But like what made I think what she's asking is like what made you knew that you were ready to seek deeper connection, or did it was it just like it happened, and then you're like, oh, I'm ready, or did you like really feel because sometimes I feel like when guys are not necessarily ready to commit or ready for something deeper, they may not be able to get everything they need from the person that's in their life right now.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: And maybe they need to like and they might feel like they're missing out if they you know enter a serious relationship that oh, you know, I'm losing all of this stuff.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: But I think maybe when you're and that's I won't say that's a like a misconception for guys.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you are with your partner who supports you fully and has your back, you're never technically losing anything.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: So it's more about how a woman feels within herself, and like if she's creating that space that allows you to want that deeper relationship.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: I would say for sure, because like the way In the way you speak and the energy you put off, it's just it makes it feel very safe to share emotions.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yay, that's all crazy.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: So is this why like you would agree with the statement of like, you know, sometimes people see guys um and then they're like maybe in a habit of being like a fuckboy or like a serial date or whatever, and then like they meet that one woman who like changes the game for them or changes everything?
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: Would you say that's because that woman represents the whatever that they need in a serious relationship that allows them to go there before they couldn't get that from one woman?
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: I would say that for sure.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm terrible at playing things, but no, I'm just reflecting back on it here.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: Does leading affect how you view your partner and how can it build to a respectful and equal partnership?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_03: So, how does you leading help build a respectful and equal partnership?
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_03: Or like, how do you feel leading affects our dynamic?
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_03: Like when you lead, how does that make you feel about our relationship?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_03: Like, have you led in the past?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I don't know.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_03: I don't remember, probably not not as much as you do now.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think I create the space, but yeah, you definitely create the space for me to lead, especially with the lovely movement in the world currently, like referencing like even like holding doors for what I hold the door for every single person.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_03: You do, and like I I think there are aspects of you that were already leading that you are very respectful and equal to women in general.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like you always hope in doors, you help the old people, and then I almost start to cry.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm even told the story on my Instagram how you helped the girl downstairs and move in her boxes.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: And there's so many men I would have known in the past who wouldn't even offer help, let alone like made sure, or there was that time where she was screaming with her boyfriend, and you like made sure that she was okay, like physically, and like nothing you know bad was happening in her home.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: But like to me, that's huge.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I don't understand how someone can't be like that.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: That is, I would say, a very old instilled thing in me over thousands of years, is that there's you just do that kind of stuff, like there's no standard below that.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: If I watch a guy not hold the door for someone walking through, I would it just like it irks my blood.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Even watching at the wedding this past weekend, and my grandmother sitting there like shivering, and I'm at the head table.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: The fact is I have to get up off the head table, go over there with my jacket to give to my grandmother, and there's another probably five guys at that table that could have done that.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: That stuff just irks my blood through and through.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: So you would say that that you lead in scenarios almost out of respect for women.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, because you respect them.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: They're I would yeah, like he.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: I understand why, like guys have a hard time right now, especially with like if you don't know if like you say something that's feminist or whatever, like you're gonna you have to walk on eggshells because you don't know what's gonna set people off or a woman off in general.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I talked about this in Land the Man in my other episode, so make sure you go listen to those.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: Because I literally said that, like, unfortunately, men sometimes don't feel safe to leave and do things because they don't want to get their head bitten off that like I can do it myself.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm a strong independent woman, and yes, we can be strong independent women, but we can't do that.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's the thing, it's like you're never trying to take away from you being a strong independent woman.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Hell thank you.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for saying that.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_03: I did not plant those in his mouth, but I love where that's a sound bite for me.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Just like just go, like, go to you, like whatever like makes you happy, just do it.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't need to sit here and like I'm not trying to take away from what you do on like your business stuff, like just do it, do what you love.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like, but I think what she's also asking is like, how does leading make this an equal partnership?
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like, do you feel like by you leading and you being the doer and me being the receiver that it's not equal?
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_03: Mind you, it's not like I don't do, like, I do your laundry, I cook you meals, like I don't do nothing, but like, how do you feel like leading makes you view me?
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I feel like it makes you love me more when I receive, but I also feel like it makes us equal because we're playing into the biology of the feminine and masculine, yes?
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a thousand percent.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like I don't know how to articulate this correctly, but like for sure in that sense of like because it makes you feel more supported, it makes you feel more safe to share, because I give you the space.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like yes, you can like say you can easily book a flight, but me booking the flight is it's a small, easy task, but it's that premise of doing it, it makes it it's satisfying to you.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and it could be something so small, but that could mean so much for doing it, and it's I would just say like prior to that, it but it's just the way the way you do it, and it's not there's no malicious intent or any deeper dark ways of getting back at me for something in that sense.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: I can feel like I can actually do things.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, I hate when people do that when they carry on things from like two years ago or whatever it is, like or a month ago or last week.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, that that answered the question.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, do the two of you eat the same and did he change his eating habits?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: So I answered this in part one, so go um go listen to that.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: But essentially, yeah, his eating habits completely changed, and I share with you how I changed them.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_03: So don't go listen to that.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_03: And we also talk about when did you meet and when did you um we talk about all the how we met in that, so go listen to that one.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_03: Did you do any work spiritual, etc., that you can suggest to other men?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_03: So is there anything you would suggest for other men?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um like books.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: There's definitely a book I would recommend for guys to kind of if they're looking to start um in start the masculine or actually get a better understanding of it, because that was one thing I found I didn't you don't realize what it is.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: You don't actually understand, and like I'm extremely detailed oriented.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: I need the details.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: If I don't have the details, I have no idea what's going on.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: Well, men are detail-oriented, it's not like a it's a youth thing, it's it's a men thing.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: Is it the um the way of the superior man?
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's the way of the superior man.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, let me say that slowly.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: The way of the superior man, for those of you listening.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_03: Now, what I will say, um, just as a preface, if you try to shove this on your partner without him being open, he's just gonna shut down and not read it.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: So don't be like, you need to read this book, blah blah blah.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: Make it more of an imitation.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_03: I can talk more about this in Land the Man if you want to know how to communicate better with them, but I will say, I never I opened you up the space to do the work.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't make you read a book or make you do this.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like if I wasn't willing to work on myself, I never would have sat there as an audiobook, which is fantastic.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: You can still do other things.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, if they're a reader, I'm sure it's also in the print.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's just if a guy's not open to truly bettering himself and opening up fully to work on those issues that are lying now or from childhood, they can't truly heal themselves or be fully comfortable in the masculine.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_03: If you're this is perfect, you're literally just confirming everything I say, and like it's a perfect sandwich.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's yeah.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've listened to I've listened to that book three times.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like you can't a guy just can't listen to it once.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: We need to sit there, you have to digest it, and I wouldn't listen it back to back.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: You need to sit there, take your time, listen to it.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: I did an hour a day of it.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: Anything more than that, you're not gonna absorb all the information that it has.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: And like, for a guy who's looking to kind of like you can ask me, well, if you would have met me two years ago, I was the definition of a bull in a china shop.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you could not tell me anything.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: I was I'm right, you're wrong, don't matter.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: For me to open up and be open about myself spiritually, um wound.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_03: So, like what because all you've read the book, but you've also done like a lot of other types of healing, trauma healing, etc.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_03: What made you open to even doing this?
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: Because we both know people, you know, friends or whatever, whose husbands, partners don't want to change, don't want to do the work.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, what made you actually willing and open to do it?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_03: I just wanted to hop on here and remind you guys that both Land the Man and Goddess Activation are open right now.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: You can buy them separately or you can bundle them together.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: You end up saving if you bundle them together.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_03: Land the Man is all about receiving a man who leads and creating a relationship that never is so it is a two-part live series where I will be covering how to communicate with men, how to start with the house.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: Seeing how much you doing the work truly opened my eyes to this idea of like, oh, this is kind of cool.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you're feeling this way after doing that, I wonder what I can do.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I wonder how I can feel.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, I you just gave me another sound point.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: This is literally, I was making the notes for Land the Man, the second call tonight, and I was literally talking about like how to get him to do things, and it's because I didn't say, like, you need to do this course, you need to do trauma healing, why aren't you doing the healing?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: Why aren't you bettering yourself?
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't shaming you in any way, and that's what allowed you to do it.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you would have tried to shame me, I would have shut that down and I would have purposely gone out of my way to ensure that I wouldn't do it.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_00: If, like, it's the the if you want a guy to do something, you don't have to bark at us.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like, and I I know, and that's I think what most women do that I don't do.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: So if you feel like you want your man to do the work and you're struggling, definitely hop into Land of the Man because I teach you how to not.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: But shaming him is not the way to go.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely not.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: You will never get the results.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, I love this question.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: I'm tired to hear your perspective.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_03: I think I know the answer, but how can a man feel in his power when being with a woman as powerful as Live?
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: I love this.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_03: That's such a good question.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_03: So, what keeps you when you're masking your power?
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: But I also think it's me making sure that, like, yes, I'm powerful as Liv in my business, and I'm masculine my business when I'm holding for my clients, but that's not necessarily I take off that jacket when I show up in our relationship.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I would say there's but how does how do you not find my power threatening?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_03: Is it because you're really secure in yourself?
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_03: Is it like what is it?
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would say I'm fairly secure and actually I would say I was quite strongly and very headstrong when it comes to that.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to say headstrong in the wrong terms in that sense, but I mean like you're not you being as powerful as you are, you're never I will never feel threatened by how powerful you are in what why?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_03: Because in the past of my last relationship before this, was he was so threatened and emasculated by like the amount of money I wake, how powerful my psychic gifts are, there were so many things.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: How come you don't find those things?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: Is it just because you're secure in yourself and you're not a wounded masculine?
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what is it?
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: I would I would say that, yeah.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just like I there's no reason to.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's no reason to what?
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because, say, if your partner makes more money than you, if like does that really bother you, then there's more behind that.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: Then you have an issue that you need to look into.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: If that's really what bothers you, if like the fact is that say your partner makes more money than you, and that's a trigger for you, then there's something underlying that's causing that trigger.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_03: So it's their own wounding that makes would make them not feel in their power around a powerful woman.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: Is that your sure?
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you're if I'm in a boardroom and we're having a meeting with someone, and there's a woman who is a figure, or and like I would say, like a powerful figure in that meeting, and like it's outspoken.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you shouldn't be threatened by that.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: You guys are there to complete a goal, and like you should be.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, it's basically their own wound being that way.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: I would say it's definitely your wounding, like, because like you shouldn't be threatened, it doesn't matter if it's a guy or if it's a woman, you shouldn't be threatened by someone in that sense.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you are, there's underlying issues that are causing triggers for you.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll also say that like make sure as a woman that you're not doing things to make to take away his power, because when in your when you are actually in your feminine in the relationship, even if you're an entrepreneur or a CEO or you're more of a masculine in your work job, I think I do a good job of you're always at the power and lead in the dynamic when I'm with you versus in my business, which I think is a very clear distinction to make.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: I can honestly say, like, to just dumb it down, it's like you're like you can be two different people.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: You have a good way.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you have the business live, and then there is the other side, which is what I get.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: Which is the best balance because I feel like because I hold so much my business, I need to be so feminine in my relationship to balance out the two.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: But like I feel like you I never feel like I have like the quote unquote power.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're always leading, and it's always so like yummy, and you're always doing all the things, and I just love it.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um I like I like giving you the power, but I think it also takes a secure feminine to allow her partner to have the power.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_00: That is a huge factor into that.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think most guys can lead in that sense.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's just if we are given a safe environment to do it without repercussions coming back at us for it.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's the thing.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_03: All you're doing is telling everyone to join the man because you're literally talking about everything I'm talking about in the part two call.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: And also to that point, I have no idea what half goes on in these calls or anything.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not trying to sell this.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: No, I know you're not.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_03: You're just genuinely selling it for me, and that's why I like love it.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because I think it's it's really important for women to understand, like, as much as it is you doing your healing and your wounds to make sure you're secure, it's also like the language that I use for you.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like you said, the safe space I create, all of this, which brings me to the next powerful question of like, how do you feel safe to lead, to have that responsibility on you as a man?
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's because I make you feel yeah, it's the it's I don't even like and it's because like I'm not gonna bite your head off and like be jealous or reactive, like you said in some of the previous.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it's I almost don't even think of it.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like I like I don't have to there's no worry.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: I have no fear in that sense of getting like my head bitten off.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: I really don't.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's zero fear when it comes to that.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_03: So look to like if you're asking this question, look to see if you're biting your partner's head off or you have in the past and past relationships.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it could even be just for like small things, because like I would say that resentment that can be built, it's like if you even if it's the small things, it doesn't have to necessarily be like big arguments or scenarios, because like you're gonna have those discussions with your partner.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we have discussions still, like but communication is key.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: This is true, and I will say that the way you communicate to me is not like any other woman before in a good way.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's in a it's in an extremely good way because it allows me to actually understand, say what you're feeling or what's going on, and I have that space to ask questions if I need clarification and not feel like I made to feel stupid, or like you the way you feel and the what I feel as a man and a woman are two different things.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: The way the way our brains work are different.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: The way you have to communicate and the way I have to communicate are two different things, and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's just if I didn't if you didn't communicate the way you do to me, I'd be much more closed off than the way I am now.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_03: But I think like, yes, men and women communicate differently, but I think the problem that gets caught up is if you're communicating with a man, like when I communicate with you, I am I'm not communicating with you in the way that is natural to me.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_03: I'm communicating the way to you in the way you're going to hear.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_03: Which is important because like if you try to talk to your girlfriends, ladies, if you try to talk to your man the way you talk to your girlfriends, or actually any male in your life, it could be your brother, your dad, etc.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_03: Communication with men is kind of general, then it's not gonna be the same and they're not gonna hear it.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_03: So oftentimes I feel people they're like, oh, my partner doesn't understand me, he doesn't get it, he doesn't like, and it's just because you're not speaking the right language to him in a way that he can understand, or you're making it too fluffy, or too like you know, all these things.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like I'm very direct with you.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'd say that's something that is they're the direct being direct, because like those guys, we're not really complicated.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: We are very simple creatures, I would call us at that point.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's like you read my Landaman notes.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_03: Keep going.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely not.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: I know, but like it's just we're simple.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: And if you try and over-complicate it by like thinking we need to have this elaborate thing explained to us, no, just fucking tell us what you want, and if you need us to do something, just tell us.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_03: But not in like a a condescending way, correct.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, don't shame us for it.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: Just ask us if this is something that you can do and work on.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, yeah, no problem.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's our job is to support our partner, and all you have to do is ask.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Just don't do it in a negative, condescending way, and you're probably gonna get very good results from it.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_03: I have a next question, which is good, then I have my answer, but let's hear yours first.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: How do I get my husband to be more romantic slash put effort into special occasions?
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_03: If you want me to go first, I'll go first.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you go first on this one.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: So, from my perspective, if you're shaming them or like making them feel like they're not doing enough, it doesn't make them want to do more.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yes?
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_03: So if it's like you need to put more effort into our special occasions, you're not doing enough romantic things, you're not doing this, like all it is is shaming and emasculating them, that doesn't make a man want to do things for you, correct?
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_00: If you do that to me, I would basically tell you off.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_03: 100%.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_03: So like I know what I would say, but like what would foster you to make you want to, or what or actually what makes you want to do romantic things for me?
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: Because you always do your little romantic things for me.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: Because I I like I enjoy it because one of the big things, like don't get me wrong, uh romantic holidays, like Valentine's Day and stuff, like yet again.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well no, or like excuse me, special occasions, even maybe like an like an anniversary or a birthday, or like if your partner craves that and like for you, it's like you you enjoy those are big things for you.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Birthdays, special occasions are big for you.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: So you should want to do those things for your partner, and like getting your husband to do it, I would almost like.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: If say he's not sure.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because yet again, that's what I was gonna say, is that he's not sure.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: If we're not sure on what you'd want to do, because let's be real, it can change all the time.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_03: So if you give us an option of like, hey, like, you know, do it subconsciously in a way of like for your birthday or whatever, you can always drop hints, and I mean if he doesn't pick up on the hints, then and I think if you're not used to it, like maybe you're in a relationship where he hasn't done things before, you can start hinting at things, and I don't want to say like train them, but essentially like train them.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_03: Because like in the beginning, like I kind of trained you that now I don't need to drop as many like subconscious, you kind of just will know exactly what I want or like need for like a special occasion or romance, like you know my expectations and kind of what I like.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_03: But in the beginning, I definitely like trained you to do that, like the restaurants making reservations, like I set it up for you.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_03: So to her, like when she says, How do I get him to do more things?
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_03: I would say, like, be direct in kind of like maybe what you want to get him to understand those things first, like the romantic things versus I would do, I would pick like I would really love some flowers for my birthday.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I would just I remember in the beginning I said I would really love some flowers, and the next day you brought me flowers, and I was like, Yeah, yeah, flowers, but like I'm trying to think of like basic things, yeah.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like I would just say, because it's like if there, if you if this habit hasn't been there and hasn't been instilled at this point, what I would do is I would kind of try and focus on like maybe just hint like hey, can we do something special this year for this?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: And just kind of like and yet again, it doesn't necessarily always have to be such a monetary thing.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, we're not talking about monetary, she just said romantic, and I think that for a guy's perspective, that can kind of get hung up of where like you'd have to go balls to the walls, and that's not really what it's about.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_00: And for me, I never understood that.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: I always thought it's like okay, we're we're all in her fold, always.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's like we're going but maybe if someone does want balls to the walls, maybe that's a that's okay and they're allowed to want that.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_03: But like, how would they how would you get them to make more like effort as a guy?
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: How what could she do?
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_03: I would it's like dropping like the you know, I want to do something special this year, like yeah, but just don't do it in a way of that's like sound making them feel like they haven't done enough so far?
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: Correct, because if you do that as a guy, I would shut down immediately.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be like, Well, what you mean the things I've done in the past that haven't been good enough up to this point?
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so like if basically what she says, like this year can we do something special implies that like the previous years have been shit, which like maybe they are, and that's warranted, and like maybe they did absolutely nothing, but also look at like your language or like how safe, or like if you're inspiring him to want to do things for you, or if you've been shaming him and making him feel like shit for the past I don't know how long you've been together.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I that would I'd say is kind of a key point of like you almost want to inspire us to do that, versus kind of like if it comes in a way that like we are felt to in that quote unquote notations not be the man that we are and we're being ashamed for something, then it's like how how could you ask me to do more when you're gonna be almost condescending to me, even if it's warranted, you're not gonna get the result you're looking for doing that to someone.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's just thank you.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_03: I just wrote that in my notes for Land the Man Part 2.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for confirming.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe you should just run the call for.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want me to?
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_03: So this kind of like because the next question is like, how do I get him to plan dates?
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_03: And the same thing.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like, maybe what makes you, like, for example, yesterday, was it yesterday you told me that, oh, we're gonna have a date night on Thursday and we're gonna go bowling.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: What made you like, what gets you to plan dates, or like have you done that in the past?
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: Or I just think that like it's fun to like mix it up and go do things.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and for me, especially, it's like I don't have to like worry.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: The only worry I really have to worry about is like food and dietary stuff, but like no, but now I understand enough about it that it's like okay, cool, like we can get away with this.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like I want to spend that one-on-one tying, even away from Akasha, and just like go enjoy each other's energy and company and just have fun.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like it doesn't have to be this, like, always this like massive, elaborate thing.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like the thought goes into it.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_03: Do you think guys get overwhelmed with planning dates that they have to be massive and elaborate and can't be like, let's go watch Thor, let's go bowling?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that was one thing that I dreaded about dating is that it's like before you, it's like I gotta like plan this whole thing, and it's gotta be this giant elaborate thing.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why?
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_03: And then it's just like it's it's I mean, I don't mind elaborate, but I also like I think some of our funnest days have been like axe growing.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_03: Thor, it's just mini golf, like brand new shit.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like we're we're adventurous people in that sense where it's like yeah, like don't get me wrong, like I love going to elaborate dinners, beautiful places, vibe all day, but like you don't have to do that all the time.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_03: So, what would make you not want to plan dates?
• 49:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you when she's like, How do I get him to plan dates?
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_03: What would make you not is it does it really because I feel like some of these questions go back to creating a safe space, not emasculating?
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_03: Is that really like the truth of all of these things?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_03: Is like you need to create a safe space where you're not making him feel like shit and shaming him.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because like if like if you make me feel like say like you were to make me feel like shit about like not doing something.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_03: If you never plan dates, you never do this.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, do you think I'm gonna like do you think I'm gonna fucking do it?
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm gonna Because I was like, I'm noticing like the trend with a lot of these, you like even your response to these questions, it's essentially I create the safe space and I'm in my feminine, and I don't make you feel like shit and shame you and emasculate you, and that makes you want to do things.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_03: Whether it's a special occasion, whether it's just a simple date, whether it's about leading, whether it's about whatever.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: Even if there was something that like you won or that you expected for something, the way it's articulated to me, I'm not meant to feel, even if I understand what's going on, and like I can grasp that why you're articulated this way is because this is something you truly desire, definitely helps me in this scenario.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: But it's it really comes down to the way the words you choose to say and how it's communicated to a guy is critical in the results you will get from it.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_03: And if you need another reason to join Land the Man, there you go, you just got it.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_03: Because part one, I literally give you the exact words to use to communicate.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: That's helpful.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to like yeah, I don't even want you to know why I do them.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I think we're almost done.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_03: The questions, I'm just gonna scan.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: Because a lot of them are like the same ones, like you know, what makes you lead, what makes them plan days, blah blah blah.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: I would definitely say a lot of it comes down to like to leading in that part.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because I want to.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_03: You know, let's actually take this little example.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_03: I know I talked about um you changing your eating habits in the the part one, but what I'll also like, I think this is a perfect example of like when we met, you did not eat like me.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_03: No, but in order to get you to eat like me, I didn't shame you into eating like me.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_03: I more I educated you and I, you know, invited you to to try it for yourself and to see how you feel.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_03: I never was like, why do you eat gluten?
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_03: Why are you eating like chips a whole?
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like, it was like you like I eat this way and I feel really good.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: You might feel better.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_03: You might want to try it out and see how you feel by you know cutting out sugar and gluten and whatever, right?
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I so referencing my eating before I met her was atrocious.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: I could have 10 chocolate chip cookies five minutes before I go to bed.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_02: And like we're talking like the chips a whole like not good quality, not the keep up with link.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: They're great quality in some media, okay?
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_00: So that's been going on since I was like four years old, and I've been demolishing cookies for.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you're also like you're very, you're still very like physically healthy.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I think you're just an anomaly, to be honest, about how you got away with eating so poorly, like how you're so fit.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't understand metabolism, but you know.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: It works in my favor, definitely.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's it like it shifted like night and day.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like the thing is like for food for me, especially, like it's food.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't look at it, I don't cherish it.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: I look at it as fuel to fuel me for the rest of the day.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: You enjoy it.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: I do enjoy it now, especially you're cooking.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like before I met you, I'm used to eating the most plain shit in the entire world because whatever was easiest and fastest is what I did and what I consumed.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: Now I have these elaborate meals that taste fantastic.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, it's like there's not a huge difference in taste.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like some things, yeah, you can feel like a texture difference, but like when it's cooked properly or done properly, like So what it got you to change is that the food actually tastes good and you feel better?
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: I definitely feel better, and like I mean, I'm saying I'm probably better than the average.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_03: And I didn't shame you into eating healthy.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I'm more physically fit than most men, probably.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_03: And like this still doesn't but still the way I got you to eat healthy, that that's independent.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_03: The fact that you're naturally fit is independent of the fact that I didn't force it upon you, which I think maybe a lot of women try to like use it.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_03: But that's what I'm saying though.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's that's where my point is that it's like I'm this way already.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, how in my eyes, especially being in Aries, how do you think that you're gonna make me better by feeding me this way?
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I did.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the thing is it's like you couldn't have ever told me that eating like this was gonna make me feel as good as I do now.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, even like, especially in like my gut, like that is a huge thing that I can tell you that is like as physically fit as I am, there was still like my stomach was still upset all the time, and I never knew why.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: I just assumed that I'm like, ah, whatever, it's fine, who cares?
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_00: Keep eating, it'll be fine.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_00: And now it's like you don't feel that way anymore, and it's like you don't even know what to do.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: And like, I will advocate this to any of my guy friends, they all think I'm crazy still half the time, but I mean, like, you don't know until you try it, and and how much like I've even had friends that have done it for like a month, and you see such a change in your body and how swollen you are, and like I mean, I didn't even know what gluten was until I met you, like, I don't pay attention to this stuff, yeah, and now it's like you see it and how much the results part.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you almost gotta like if you're trying to get your partner to eat healthier, you have to guide them there.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I wouldn't I literally wrote that in my I use this as an example in Land of the Man tonight.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_03: I literally wrote, you have to be a guide.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, you're you're in my brain.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, good.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_00: French.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_03: No, you're you're validating that I'm good at this.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I would never seek eating this healthy out.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: It was never something I would seek, mainly because, yeah, metabolism, but making it easy.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's easy enough for me to make that transition, and now it's just become part of my life and my lifestyle.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_00: That is, this is the way I eat, and this is the way I want to eat.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: And you couldn't tell me different that I'm gonna eat gluten.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: I won't.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: I won't touch it.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_00: I have no desire to, I have no desire to go back to that other way I was feeling before.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: And like, I would say like culture shock, like in media, but like it was something that like you're super passionate about, and for me, it's like if you're that passionate about it, there's gotta be something cool about it.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: So, alright, let's give it a go, and why not?
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's also true about the spiritual stuff.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so passionate about it that you're like, yeah, let's give it a go.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: Let's hop into my cosmic records.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean, like, I was already like somewhat spiritual in that sense.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm I know I've been alive for a long time.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: I know I'm an old soul, but I mean, like, opening myself up to that more and being open and pulling cards and doing all this stuff, like I want to do it, I thoroughly enjoy it now, and it's like it's a safe place to do it.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care if I'm judged for it, like if I didn't feel as safe as I did with you, I wouldn't do half the things.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_03: Again, it comes down to safety.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, we have two more questions, and you may not be able to answer this next one, but like maybe you can also based on like what you know about guys, your friends in general, because I don't think you would ever do this.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_03: But the question is what are the reasons for being ghosted?
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_03: So, as a guy, like why would you ghost someone?
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think you personally would.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_03: I think you'd always like from the stories you told me, you're always like direct that, like, you know, that's not working, this is why.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_03: But like, maybe based on friends or men in general, like, what would the reason be for like ghosting?
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, there's I would look at this as two ways.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_00: You either have cleaned the shit out of the guy, so he's freaked out, and he's just like shut down all communication, like red flags flying.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_03: So he shuts it down because it's like it's like too much for his system.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: That I would say there's either that way of it where it's just like too much GTFO block on everything, shut it down, don't let her find you, kind of thing.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's like the way of like if he wants to feel that false sense of power and wants to try and instill that walk, like say that part or that person he was communicating with and wants to see them want him in an unsafe manner, is I would say is like what like you go someone, how many times are they gonna text you before it's kind of weird that they're not responding?
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: Does that m boost his ego?
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_03: So it comes from a wounded place.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_03: I would say for sure, or they're just like someone's being a stage five clinger.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like there you got, I would say there's two spectrums here.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you either have stage 10 clinger running, red flags coming at me, and where I would just like shut this shit down, or there's the way of like if you were doing this from a wounded place where it's like you want to feel that like you're in that false sense of you think this is manly because you're being desired.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think that'd be kind of another reason why guys do it, because then it's like, okay, well, like if you're talking to say like five girls and like you have all this on the go, like it's a lot of energy to put out, and it's like if you want just you're just doing it for an ego boost, just so you can feel desired, and then you just shut it down and just don't answer anymore.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: You're doing it more for that, I'd say that like false sense of like feeling manly, I don't know what I'm saying.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_00: But like there's nothing manly about that, and because like yet again, you're not communicating.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_00: What are you look 10 years old?
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, some might behave that way.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, we have one last question, and it's kind of like a general one.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_03: Tips for dating apps.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, was there women that you talked to before me that like they would do things that are like ew or like red flags?
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think it's a lot of the way I approach that.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's that like dating online, like you should like, especially nowadays, like you generally know what you're getting yourself into for the most part, but it's like the tips for dating, like if there's a picture of specifically, because I feel like you know, I've had questions of like there's no good men on the apps, how do you find them?
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_00: For guys, take good better pictures.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, this is for women, like women want to know, I guess, like how to talk to guys, and so they want to hear from a guy's perspective, like see, like for me, but yet again, this comes from it depends where they are in their journey.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they want like the serious relationships, they're not looking for hookups.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: If you can't have a conversation with someone for two to three weeks online before you meet, to me, how are you going to hold a conversation for years after?
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, I dude, I don't think we talked for that long.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_03: I think we talked for like a week.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, we didn't.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, this is one of the things you were pissed about.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_03: It was just weird, no guys ever made me wait like two weeks.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_03: They'd rather make two weeks.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: And that was one of the things, it's like you can hold a conversation.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_00: We could talk, we could talk on the phone.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_03: So the tip is like the tip then you would say is like talk to them on the phone first, have conversations.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I would say, like, the people I talked to on the app before you, I all of them I did talk to off the app, like I would talk to them off the app before potentially like talking I see them in person, like whether it was on the phone or voice noting or texting.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because then you like someone's invested at that point.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if I know that person I'm seeking out is invested enough to talk to me for that long, I know it's worth the time.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: Because, like, if you value yourself and your time, then like when you're going to hang out with this person, like I'm making time in my busy schedule to do this, I know they're invested.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_00: I know they're not here, like we've been talking for 12 hours, like, oh hey, cool, let's go hang out.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you should know what you're getting at that point.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, even if you have a crazy connection, you feel drawn to that person, you gotta hold that power in yourself to hold the then put that power towards the conversations.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_00: Get that get to know that person, and then take that stuff that you've learned, and then ask those questions and go further deeper when you meet that person in like real life.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for me, I would never like talk to someone one day and then hop on an in-person date like the next day, because like my time is literally the most valuable thing I had.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_03: If I'm giving you my time, I need to know that it is worth getting you know, doing my hair, putting my makeup on, giving you a couple hours or hours of my time, like whatever it is.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I I would like and I say that from like even for perspective like dating apps.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_00: For like for me, it's like I would always rather talk on the phone versus over text because the way No, I like voice notes too, or yeah, voice notes, anything to do with like your voice, because you can hear how someone is communicating through voice, or you can use voice is what you're saying.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_00: I would like for me, it's like text texting can be misleading in a lot of ways or misread, and it can something could be going great, and then you just misread a text because it can come off a certain way, and it can wreck something good, or vice versa.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: I would just say that like yeah, it comes down to that time and effort.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_00: If they're willing to put the time and effort it takes to sit there, have a phone conversation, have longer conversations versus just the short stuff.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_03: Then you're almost like weeding out the hookups too.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_00: And that's to me, it's like, I mean, heck, if a guy is willing to talk to you for three weeks, or even two weeks, yeah, whatever.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_00: I like pushing the envelope.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean this is long.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: If you if they hold that conversation that long and they're still just looking for a hookup, I mean, kudos to them because that seems like a lot of effort, because that means they're not doing it just with one person, so they get a lot of free time on their hands.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the way I look at it.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if a guy's trying to hang out with you, like, you know, you start your match on Thursday and like let's hang out Saturday.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you should kind of know just by the time frame itself that what you're getting into.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_03: Now, what about like things that they can do on their profile, like how they're whether it's like the things they're saying or pictures, is there anything that you like you see as like red flags or anything that like you would recommend?
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_00: If I see filters, I'm also a photographer, so I'm picky as hell.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_03: So, like too many of those like edited.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: If I see any bit of editing, photoshopping, anything, or like the heavy filters that really alter your face, yeah.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_00: And like, I mean, let's be fair here.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: We you want to know what they look like full-bodied just as bad as they want to be.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_03: But like, show your real self-like don't like you know, have a filter that really alters your face so you don't look anything like your pictures.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_00: Correct, because then you're setting yourself up for things to be misleading when you make that connection in person if you get there.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I think you're setting expectations to be a certain way.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I would mean like, yeah, obviously show your best self always in.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, your angles or whatever.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, whatever.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's that's different.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's different.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_00: I would just say, like, especially nowadays, it's like there's a bajillion different apps you can do to make yourself.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they're gonna see no matter what, so like what's the point in tricking them?
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_03: And then to me, it's like you're breaking trust right away because you almost like if they're really surprised, because I feel like I've heard a lot of men be surprised with what women look like off the app when they meet them compared to that, like, then you're already like.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_03: I understand like cheating your angles a little bit, but don't like go a heavy face tune and make you like you know, yourself like very different.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I don't think I think a guy would appreciate more like you and your authenticity, no matter like what you look like, versus you trying to be fake.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_03: And hiding because then to me that comes off not confident, not secure, versus to me, even if you believe you don't have the perfect face, a perfect body, but like you own it, you rock it, you've got this confident energy, that's gonna be so much more magnetizing to a dude than if like you edit it to make your waist like super tiny, your butt super big, or whatever.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like and I mean, like, all I can say, especially for the right person, especially if someone's desiring like a long-term relationship.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_03: Correct.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where like I would say that like you can just tell by like someone's profile and like what's in it.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: If it's just like, yeah, I like pizza.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_03: Are you talking about women or men that you can tell?
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_00: In general, just like you both it goes both ways.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter which way you look at it.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I mean, my bio would have been short because I don't like writing.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't remember what you were said to me.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_00: It would have probably been about 10 emojis, it would have said hiking, photography, and probably one other thing.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_03: And I like both of those things.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, ooh, cool, he can take my pictures.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: Let's be real here.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_02: That's more of me and I'm walking a lot.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, ooh, you can take my photos.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_02: Win.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_02: I know you do.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_00: But I it just it really kind of but it also kind of depends on your intentions because like you could say that you're looking for a long-term relationship, but are you really and are you in a safe place to hold that space for a long-term relationship?
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think with the energy you output is what you get back.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're seeking this, but are you seeking it from a safe place, or are you seeking this because you think this is gonna solve a problem for you?
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_03: So kind of like evaluate your intention and your energy behind why you're on the app in the first place.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_03: Because if you're feeling really insecure, you're feeling like lack, maybe you're really desperate to want a relationship, men are gonna feel that, and maybe you actually can't even hold a relationship because you're so either jealous or desperate or attached, and that's gonna come off.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't say not even come off.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I wouldn't even say that, like, it's just like if you're like if that's what's like deep down motivating you to be on an app, you're the universe is gonna give you back what you're putting out.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're not putting out your best self to receive the opposite, you're gonna get.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I've taught you so well.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_03: You're you're speaking my language, yes.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_00: No, the language I'm using right now is definitely coming from her.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_00: I would be using much more.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't plant it, it's just I think you've just learned this from now being around me.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_03: But it's true, like I think the reason I was able to attract someone like whole, complete, and secure is because I was whole, complete, and secure by myself, and then I attracted that in.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe if you're not attracting the right people on the apps, look at how you are feeling and like what it is that you're putting out there in your intentions, and maybe that's why you're attracting those types of people.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_03: Because like I would see the buck boys, but like there's no way I'd give them the time of day.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: So, like, why are you giving them the time of day?
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I would just say this in from like eyes perspective, like, you can tell when you look at a girl's profile if she's like batshit crazy or not.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm batshit crazy, yeah.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_00: But like, there's an enjoyable aspect to that.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_00: I would just say that, like and like even the way communication is, you can tell early on if a girl's gonna be red flag central.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_00: Now, if they still pursue it, can't say guys aren't going to, but I mean, like, it just really comes down to that if you're not approaching things from a safe place, and I mean I would harp this, it's like you will get back what you put out.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's like this in anything, it doesn't matter if it's dating, it doesn't matter if it's your work, it doesn't matter in life.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever you put back, energy you put out in the universe is what you're gonna get back.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_03: Perfect.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for saying that because you literally just said everything I say, which is like your life is a reflection of how you feel about yourself, whether it's your dating, your work, etc.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_03: So if you feel like your dating life is mirroring something back to you that you don't like, look at yourself and look at what you're putting out because it's always a reflection.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_02: Woo!
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, that was so much fun.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for coming on, babe.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_02: No problem.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_03: Probably do a part two one day, maybe later in the year, maybe like around Christmas or something, when we have more topics to talk about.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, guys.
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks so much for listening, and I'll see you guys in the next episode.