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Breaking Down the Big Week 14 Games · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ and
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  Speaker 1: Rhett with you today. Buck is traveling so he is out.
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  Speaker 1: But Rhet, how are you doing? Man?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm good and I'm laughing a little bit because
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking I was, you know, buying the curtain a
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  Speaker 2: little bit for our friends here, you know, when we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure.
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  Speaker 1: Out, you know, who's talking about what and which games.
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  Speaker 1: I just knew.
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  Speaker 2: I knew on that text thread that DJ was gonna
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  Speaker 2: come in hot with that Jets Texans zame because you,
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  Speaker 2: my friend. Every time I think I'm done, they pull
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  Speaker 2: me back.
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  Speaker 1: And you are. You can't get up, Wilson, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: saw this. First of all, I haven't watched the Jets
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  Speaker 1: playing over a month. It's been so pitiful. But the
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  Speaker 1: I was on the Insiders show, so I was on
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  Speaker 1: with Tom Pea of the day. We were talking about
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  Speaker 1: some backup quarterbacks and I said on that show, I
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  Speaker 1: think I posted it, but I said, look, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: the Jets, I would put a BYU helmet in Zach's
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  Speaker 1: locker this week and tell him, look, we have we
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  Speaker 1: have tried to tell you, don't make mistakes. We've tried
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  Speaker 1: to put handcuffs on you. We've got a great defense.
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  Speaker 1: Don't screw it up, Zach. Doesn't work. Okay, we can't
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  Speaker 1: win games when we score six points. So go back
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  Speaker 1: to Byu, Zack. You turn it over, bad things happen,
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  Speaker 1: Let it roll off your shoulders, just let it rip.
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  Speaker 1: Go out there and play. And I was like, watching
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  Speaker 1: the game, I'll back and watch it, we'll go through it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to it a little bit. Obviously it's not
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  Speaker 1: a highlight game, but the uh, there's exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 1: He went out there and played, and there's a couple
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  Speaker 1: of them where you kind of cringe, like, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 1: what is he doing? But then like that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: who he is. Just let him be who he is.
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  Speaker 1: Stop trying to make him something he's not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there was a definitely a couple of
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  Speaker 2: throws on there that I saw from BYU, from the
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  Speaker 2: from the XO tape that you ran up the draft
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  Speaker 2: when the Jets took him to Overall, there's there's some
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  Speaker 2: of that in there. So yeah, I'll be curious to
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  Speaker 2: get your take on that when we get down there
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  Speaker 2: to it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you du oh my gosh, wow, I have
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  Speaker 1: I have no words with what the Chargers offense looks like.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a total con twist. The defense had
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  Speaker 1: been so bad and now all of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 1: defense for the last month or so, he was playing
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  Speaker 1: really well, done a nice job offensively. They can't score
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  Speaker 1: and no touchdowns last week against the Patriots, they got
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  Speaker 1: a late score in this one, only put up seven
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  Speaker 1: points against the Broncos, so they have kind of fallen apart.
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  Speaker 1: Herbert breaks his finger. Looks like he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: out Thursday. Who knows if he'll play again the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the year. By all intensive purposes, they're in deep trouble.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're have a very hard time coming back
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  Speaker 1: from this. I think they're probably done in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs. But I did want to swing it over
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  Speaker 1: because what I'm calling the Charger games. For those who
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  Speaker 1: don't know, I call the Charger games every week, so
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  Speaker 1: we always touch on that game just because I'm there.
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  Speaker 1: Buck always touched on the Jags game because he's calling
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  Speaker 1: their games. So you're there. We're there, we might as
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  Speaker 1: well tell people what we saw, and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times we can take kind of the slant from the
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  Speaker 1: team that we're working for doing those games. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to spend my time here and give some flowers to
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  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and particularly Advance Joseph. I went back
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  Speaker 1: and looked at up. Let's look at these last games.
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  Speaker 1: Here at the last seven games, Green Bay, they gave
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  Speaker 1: up seventeen points KC nine, Buffalo twenty two, Minnesota twenty,
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  Speaker 1: Cleveland twelve. Those are all wins. By the way, Houston
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  Speaker 1: twenty two was the one loss, and they give up
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  Speaker 1: seven in this game. So over the last seven games
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  Speaker 1: they're averaging fifteen point five points allowed. The Niners lead
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  Speaker 1: the NFL on the season, allowing fifteen point eight points
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  Speaker 1: per game. Now, obviously because the seventy point game against
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  Speaker 1: Miami and how bad they were early in the year,
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  Speaker 1: you know their numbers are going to be middle of
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  Speaker 1: the pack and not very impressive on the season. But
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  Speaker 1: over the last seven weeks they're playing as well as
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  Speaker 1: anybody defensively, and they're aggressive, and you know, the Chargers
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  Speaker 1: could not pick up a blitz to save their life.
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  Speaker 1: They hit them with so many different blitzes and got
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  Speaker 1: free runners. But they are playing aggressive, they're creative and advanced.
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  Speaker 1: Joseph has those guys playing good. All that's awesome, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're a game out of first place, by
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  Speaker 1: the way.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, because if the Chiefs keep stumbling and we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to that game crazy hear it a little bit
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  Speaker 2: as well, Like, yeah, there's there's definitely some room there
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  Speaker 2: for the Broncos to make some moves. And it's a
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  Speaker 2: team that we kind of left for dead right when
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  Speaker 2: they were what one in five and then went on
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  Speaker 2: the five game and then lost to Tech the Texans
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  Speaker 2: and then bounce back. So yeah, there's there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: to like there. I think Joontay Williams is playing some
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  Speaker 2: good football too.
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  Speaker 1: Right with the way that there can happen right now?
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  Speaker 1: Is your wife happy with the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: She is a Broncos fan, yep. Spent her her whole
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  Speaker 2: life in and around Denver and Colorado, and she's pretty
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  Speaker 2: swamped on in the work world on her side of
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of things going on in the in
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  Speaker 2: the world on the news front these days, and so
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  Speaker 2: so she's she I think unfortunately has been less of
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  Speaker 2: a football fan than she would like. But yeah, definitely
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  Speaker 2: got a little kick out of that one yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: So they're playing good ball. I don't think we need
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  Speaker 1: to spend any more time on that one. But now again,
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos very much in the playoff and in the
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  Speaker 1: division mix. As crazy as that sounds, But how about
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  Speaker 1: the next one? Here? Buck was gonna hit this one
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  Speaker 1: but raah, but I know you jumped in and did. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I jumped in on the Rounds and we had.
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  Speaker 2: This one on our shift of Game Day Live. Mark
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  Speaker 2: Ross and I were kind of looking at this and
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  Speaker 2: the Browns had built a lead, Jags kind of came back.
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  Speaker 2: Brown's built it again. And look, I think, first off,
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  Speaker 2: let's credit Trevor Lawrence, right. I mean, after watching that
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  Speaker 2: injury on Monday that I was like, yeah, no way,
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  Speaker 2: no way, he plays, no way, he might be out
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  Speaker 2: for the year. You know, like you're going through all
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  Speaker 2: those machinations in your mind watching you know, an impact
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  Speaker 2: player like that go down and not return, and then
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  Speaker 2: you know he comes out here tough, tough dude. Plus
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  Speaker 2: his offensive line is extremely depleted at the tackle position.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like we know they're down Cam Robinson Walker
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  Speaker 2: Little was out to start this game, so they moved
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  Speaker 2: Ezra Cleveland over to left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: He gets hurt in the first.
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  Speaker 2: Half, and so Blake Hants comes in as they're essentially
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  Speaker 2: fourth string left tackle. Look, he didn't have a great day,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's putting him in a
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  Speaker 2: great position either with the you know, the way that
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  Speaker 2: the Browns can get after the passer. He played thirty
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  Speaker 2: nine snaps, gave up four hits and eight pressures. Team
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  Speaker 2: as a whole gave up twenty seven pressures on Trevor Lawrence, which.
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  Speaker 1: Is that's not the team. Yeah, not the team you
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  Speaker 1: want to be playing when you're not whole up front.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're a little banged up, you know, in
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  Speaker 2: the mobility department. From the quarterback spot. Now, he threw
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  Speaker 2: three picks. First one, he'll advise deep shot. Second one,
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  Speaker 2: he got pressure and it was a miscommunication with Zay Jones.
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  Speaker 2: Third one free rusher. He takes the shot down the sideline,
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  Speaker 2: just overthrows. It was played well by Greg Newsom. But
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  Speaker 2: I think what's most important here in this game is
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  Speaker 2: Joe Flacco.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Flacco fits in this offense, and he is he
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  Speaker 2: has given them. I think I would say, and it
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  Speaker 2: probably isn't that much of a stretch to say there
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  Speaker 2: are two best games of quarterback play the season. Here
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  Speaker 2: we're saying he comes off the couch right, he's decisive,
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  Speaker 2: he knows where he wants to go with the football.
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  Speaker 2: He is unflustered in the pocket. He was also protected
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  Speaker 2: pretty well. Give him that two arm is still terrific.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's thirty eight years old. The arm is still there.
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  Speaker 2: Like he goes he has a left hash shot. He
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  Speaker 2: lets it rip from the minus twelve left hash. It
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  Speaker 2: hits the sideline at the thirty two on the far
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  Speaker 2: right side, and it's on the money, on time, perfect throw,
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  Speaker 2: first down, Like that's big time. That's a big time
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  Speaker 2: throw right there. He even showed some evasiveness in the pocket.
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  Speaker 2: Rusher gets his hands on him, he escapes, scrambling out
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  Speaker 2: to the right, makes a pretty throw on the run.
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  Speaker 2: He just seems really comfortable, calm in the pocket. He's
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  Speaker 2: got great touch, still layer and balls over the second level.
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  Speaker 2: There is a lot to like. And I think the
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  Speaker 2: Browns are right back in the thick of things. If
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  Speaker 2: they were floundering a little bit as a playoff contender,
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  Speaker 2: but that's a playoff looking team right there with Flacco
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  Speaker 2: at quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Teach. Yeah, and I think you probably take some heart
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  Speaker 1: by watching that if you're a Jets fan and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: look at Flacco at that age. Maybe Aaron Rodgers coming
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  Speaker 1: off this injury next year still got a little magic
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  Speaker 1: left in him. Nice to see the older guys with
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  Speaker 1: the experience, and they got the whole thing with older quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: And this is another Jet point, by the way, not
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  Speaker 1: to get off on a tangent, but you've been just
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  Speaker 1: invest in the offensive line. If you're gonna have an
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  Speaker 1: old quarterback, you've got to protect them. The weapons aren't
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  Speaker 1: as important as a protection the older you get at
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback precition. But anyways, great to see Joe Flacco
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  Speaker 1: get loose again. As you said right off the couch.
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  Speaker 1: How about Flacco's old team, the Ravens, in one of
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  Speaker 1: the games, probably the best games of the entire weekend,
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  Speaker 1: came dout to the end and overtime they beat the
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  Speaker 1: Rams thirty seven to thirty one.
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  Speaker 2: I kept going back in because again, this is another
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  Speaker 2: game in the early window that we had on Game
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  Speaker 2: Day Live which, by the way, every Sunday on NFL Network.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I did see the ratings the other day.
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  Speaker 1: Up every year, year over year. It just keeps climbing. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: bang bang, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Six hundred thousand people checking this out each and every week.
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  Speaker 2: It's awesome to see. So we're watching this game and
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  Speaker 2: it's it's back and forth. I mean, like every time
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  Speaker 2: I'm giving score alert its bang a Rams and Ravens
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  Speaker 2: scored again. A couple of just a just an overarching
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  Speaker 2: kind of theme in this The Rams are a playoff
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  Speaker 2: caliber team. Yeah, the Rams are a playoff caliber team
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  Speaker 2: to go all the way to Baltimore or on the
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  Speaker 2: road in the rain and give that team, who is
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  Speaker 2: one of the two three best teams in the AFC
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  Speaker 2: right now, an absolute run for their money, especially on offense.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like you look at the ran the ball
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  Speaker 2: really well too. They then that's what they've been doing
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  Speaker 2: this year. When Kyron Williams is healthy, man, that team
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  Speaker 2: has been rolling on the ground. And then you throw
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  Speaker 2: in obviously Cooper Cup and Puka Akua.
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  Speaker 1: They get Tyler Higbee.
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  Speaker 2: Back, who was out in this game, although they did
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  Speaker 2: get you know, a couple of good you know this
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  Speaker 2: is good snaps from Davis. Allen, the young tight end
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  Speaker 2: from Clemson, caught his first career touchdown in this game.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would let him down here with some
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  Speaker 2: major coverage busts on defense because they were in they
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  Speaker 2: play and this is a really tight game, like even
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  Speaker 2: across the board. Credits to the Rams offense. They scored
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  Speaker 2: on all five of their red zone possessions, albeit three
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns and two field goals, But on defense they let
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  Speaker 2: up some explosive plays that just you can't have it.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if they were I was texting
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  Speaker 2: you back and forth. I was trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: what some of these coverages were on some of the
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  Speaker 2: the Odell Beckham slugo just got Jordan Fuller. He bit
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  Speaker 2: up hard on it and Odell's wide open Lamar underthrows him,
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  Speaker 2: but he still gets into the end zone. They had
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  Speaker 2: an Isaiah Likely play early in the first half where
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  Speaker 2: he comes in motion and no one accounts for he
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  Speaker 2: comes in motion, ends up being the third the outside
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  Speaker 2: receiver in a three by one set and there's just
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  Speaker 2: nobody there, so clear miscommunication there. Jordan Fuller misses the angle.
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  Speaker 2: He had a tough game in this one, and then
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  Speaker 2: on the last one. The last big, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of misque on defense is a third and seventeen with
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  Speaker 2: the game on the line, and they go down there
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  Speaker 2: and allow Jay Flowers to cross Fuller's face going from
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  Speaker 2: right to left and he catches the touchdown that gives
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  Speaker 2: the Ravens the lead. Ultimately, the Rams work down there
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  Speaker 2: and tie it up and go to overtime. But man,
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  Speaker 2: just you take a couple of those plays away, and
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  Speaker 2: I know it's hard to say that, but again when
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  Speaker 2: they're miscommunications, and sometimes it seems like unforced errors, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's hard when you're that close to beating that
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  Speaker 2: good of a team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, give the Ravens credit. They've found ways to
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  Speaker 1: win different types of games. Yes, they found themselves in
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  Speaker 1: low scoring games, high scoring games. The offense with Lamar
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  Speaker 1: Jackson really arn Legs doing everything in this game was
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  Speaker 1: big for them. They needed all of it. They needed
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  Speaker 1: all that offense. And this one, I will say defensively
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  Speaker 1: for the Ravens, you know, they're they're a challenge with
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  Speaker 1: what they do up front and the looks that they present.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that the you know, the type of
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  Speaker 1: teams are going to be able to do well against
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  Speaker 1: them on that side of the ball, veteran quarterback, veteran coach,
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  Speaker 1: because you have to have answers baked in for all
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  Speaker 1: the different sim slashers you're gonna fire. And Stafford was
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  Speaker 1: in the groove with his play caller and Sean McVay,
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  Speaker 1: so they were seeing things the same. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a nightmare defense for young quarterbacks to deal with. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that was a little bit of a blueprint
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  Speaker 1: if you've got somebody who's been around the block a
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  Speaker 1: few times, understands what looks he's been presented, and knows
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  Speaker 1: where to attack the week's I thought that was kind
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  Speaker 1: of the key to them there.
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  Speaker 2: And then obviously, you know Tyland Wallace the punt return Yeah, walkoff.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's huge, and he's not the regular punt
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  Speaker 2: returner Devin du verne is. He goes out, Tyland Wallace
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  Speaker 2: has to step in. I mean, it's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: cool story. He was a senior bowler right from open
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  Speaker 2: to Oklahoma State. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, doesn't get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of reps on the offensive side of the ball,
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  Speaker 2: but steps in a big spot and obviously gets that
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  Speaker 2: done after the three and out, so on the Rams
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  Speaker 2: first offensive possession in overtime.
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  Speaker 1: But the Rams are here to stay. Yeah, they're playing
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  Speaker 1: good ball. We're gonna take quick break. We come back.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a rerun. But we will get into
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  Speaker 1: a game where the Eagles were pounded. We'll get into
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  Speaker 1: that right after this. All right, right, this was billed
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  Speaker 1: as the game of the day Sunday Night Football, Eagles Cowboys.
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  Speaker 1: The Eagles have problems, and we'll get to those problems
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  Speaker 1: in just a minute. They've been exposed really by the
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  Speaker 1: other two I would say, clearly two teams that are
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  Speaker 1: better than them right now. I don't know anyway other
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  Speaker 1: way to say it, after watching what the Niners did
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  Speaker 1: to them and then watching what the Cowboys did to
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  Speaker 1: them in this one. But let's start with the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: on their side of things. Dak an efficient day two
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  Speaker 1: under seventy seventy one yards, two touchdowns. They ran the
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  Speaker 1: ball well, kind of did what they wanted. When I
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  Speaker 1: looked at explosives in this game, which was interesting to
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  Speaker 1: watch from the Cowboys standpoint, they found some. They found
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  Speaker 1: some Waldo's on the other side they wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: after and it was a lot of the young guys
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  Speaker 1: or newer players there. Roby got torched in this game.
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  Speaker 1: Eli Rix, who's been out there. He struggled. Kee Ringo,
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  Speaker 1: a young guy to Georgia, he struggled. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: was no, it was equal opportunity. But Zach was seeing
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  Speaker 1: the field very well and just was was even though
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  Speaker 1: they did hit him a little bit, heed him up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. They had matchups down the field that
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  Speaker 1: they found very favorable, coming off of a game against
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  Speaker 1: the Niners where they picked on this secondary a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of maybe they're not as
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  Speaker 1: talented in the back end in Philadelphia, but they're not
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  Speaker 1: connected either. That's a kind of a buzz phrase you
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  Speaker 1: hear when you talk to defensive coaches. Got to be
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  Speaker 1: connected on the back end. They were not connected at all.
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  Speaker 1: And there were some guys running free.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know there are some young players. You
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  Speaker 2: mentioned that Sidney Brown out there too, and I know
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  Speaker 2: reblanken Ship left the game early and he's you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a guy that you know that's a big piece
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  Speaker 2: of their secondary rotation there. And did you see anything
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  Speaker 2: from Kevin Byerd in that one? You think, like you know, veteran.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't have as much blood on his hands when I
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: went through and looked at all the big plays and
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  Speaker 1: but but it was interesting. I was having to use
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: our lads to go through and like, who the heck
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: is this Eli Ricks? You know what I mean? Like
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: it was those those types of things, But there there
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: were other plays were like he's hitting you'll hit a
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: seam ball and there's another wide receiver on the on
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: the top of the on the top of the screen,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: who's just naked wide open. It's like, dude, they're running
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: free all over the lease. And this is the Eagles team.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I think they had the number one pass defense in
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: the NFL last year, so you know, look drop off.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: They hit him a little bit. Redick had two sacks,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: but they you know, he's getting the ball out again.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I talk about being connected, it means when you're getting
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: home and then you're not tight in coverage, like there's
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: no you don't have time, you don't have time to
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: get there. There's too many there's too many openings. So
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: they've got major issues. And I think when you look
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: around the NFC, there's quarterbacks to take advantage of it.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: If you're not good in the back end, they can
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: take advantage of it. And Dallas from what they are defensively,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: they were dominant in this game. They ran it, they
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: could throw it when they needed to. It's a pretty
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: complete football team, man, one of the best Cowboy teams
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: we've seen in a long time.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I think there were times this
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: year when the Cowboys had one of those games, you know,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: where they kind of had, you know, one of those
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: letdowns and you didn't see that ground game, right, you
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: didn't see and they had a nice combo with Tony
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Pollard and Rico Dowdle in their rushing for over one
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: hundred yards. And again, I just think that takes some
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: of that burden off of Dak Prescott, even though he's played,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: you know, exceptionally well since that forty nine Ers loss
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago. But now we're talking about back
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: to back blowouts or from the Eagles. I mean, they
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: did score an offensive touchdown for the first time in
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: six years. Yeah, so what do we make of where
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: they are offensively right now?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: You want to talk about not running the football, they
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: mean they haven't they haven't been able to do it
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: very effective.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, look that the uh, the Niners is
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: as good at defense as there is in the league.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys are either. So there's there's part of that.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: But if you're gonna get to through the tournament, those
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: are the teams you got to get through. So uh,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: you know, look, I would say, man, if they get
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: healthy and uh and their full speed ahead in the postseason,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I think they can play with those teams. But man,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: they've got to uh, they've got to clean up some
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: stuff on the back end and then offensively. I don't
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: know if it's just getting jailing healthier or or what
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: it is there, but yeah, you know, the one thing
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, they did not get caught up the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: field against him. That's kind of like you talk about
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: a little bit of the blueprint there. Don't give him lanes,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: don't get caught up the field, let him climb up
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and run and see they kind of just put a
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: wall in front of him and took that away, and
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: he's you know, he's just not comfortable. He's not comfortable
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: right now. And it isn't because he's getting upfield pressure.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: He's just not seen it. Well.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Cowboys have been really good at home They've now won
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: their fifteenth straight game at home, dating back to the
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two seasons. So you think about the way
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: that they're surging right now, and you think about playoffs
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: and them trying to.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: The only problem is they have one team that's their kryptonite.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: That's that's right, that's right, and that's the team they're
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: probably going to have to go on the road. I
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: would think I haven't looked at the at the time
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: they beat him head to head this year, to beat
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the snot out of them, So I would think San
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Francisco would hold the hold the tiebreaker there, see what
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: But even just to get then NFC Championship game would
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: be a bit.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: It would be big. They're looking like they're heading that
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: way right now, so as it stands, yeah, I think
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: that would go through San Francisco. So let's get to
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: this next game, because this was you know, we talked
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: about the Cowboys Eagles being billed as the game of
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the day, this one because of all the news surrounding
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and then the the Kansas City Chiefs
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: not looking right. This was an sreaking matchup, and then
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: it had a little drama at the end, which we'll
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: get to, but just overall impression of this game that
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: was won by the Buffalo Bills twenty seventeen, and I
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: would say it was a it was a must win
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: game for Buffalo and they got it. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Where they were you know, where they were sitting and
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: some of the games that they have lost that you'd
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: expect them to be, you know, much further along than
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: where they were. I mean, they're still sitting in the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: in the eleven hole right now in the AFC, so
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: they still got work to do, which seems strange for
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: this team at this point. But you could not go
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: under five hundred right now, and especially as you were saying,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: because you're going to start to get things piling on,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: right with all the off the field stuff that they
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: were dealing with with Sean McDermott this this last week.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: So that was a big one.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: And I think the early the way that they kind
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: of got after it early on really kind of helped
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: set the table for what they wanted to do in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: this game. Thought Josh Allen played well early. He had
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: one of those plays where he was trying to do
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: a little too much and you'll see that. Obviously, you
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: just kind of take some of those, right, But they
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: jump out to the fourteen to nothing lead, and that
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: basically booied them the whole way because obviously the Chiefs
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: came back, you know, and kind of made this thing
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit closer seventeen fourteen after the Rashi Rice
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: touchdown catch, but the Chiefs just, I don't know, it's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: good to see where she Rice continuing to ascend. Yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: he is a good player and and maybe that'll remove
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: some of the other issues that they're having with drop
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: and they still had drops in this game.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and that's just tough to see.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And obviously I think not having Isaiah Pacheco really kind
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of hurt him a little bit too. Couldn't really run
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the ball with any sort of consistency or effectiveness.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, we kind.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Of get fooled by the Bills record a little bit.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Is a talented football team, Yeah right, there's a lot
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: of talent there, and so they were much better in
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: a six and six football team coming in and they
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: played like it. So look, I think that's about what
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: we expected when these two teams get together. And obviously
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: we got to go and talk about what happened at
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the end with Mahomes and Tony and Travis Kelcey on
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: that play, and obviously they're up in arms about it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: What's your what's your take on all that?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you a quick take on that. I'll
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: circle back and then we'll we'll uh, we'll go back
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to that topic. But he's I watched the tape this morning.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: It was it was it was offside, and it's not
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: like the It's not like the official knew what was
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: going to happen, that it was gonna be one of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the wildest, craziest players of the year. Before it's the snap,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: but the guy's a full yard off sides, like, what
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: are you doing? Yeah, throw the flag and then the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: play happens. It's not like the play happens and he
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: goes up, I'm gonna throw that flag at Tiki tac
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: call and pull that back. He didn't know what was
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. He's just doing his job. So anyways, I
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: thought somebody had an interesting point after the game, which
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: was I don't even saw it. Somebody on on on
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Twitter had said it that U, I don't mind that
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Mahomes was pissed on the sideline. I don't mind what
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: he said in the in the post game, but like
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: shaking Josh Allen's hand after the game, like how about
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just how about just hey, good game, Josh, Josh, Like
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: he told Josh, this is the worst call I've ever
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: seen with What does Josh say to that, Like, Hey, okay,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: tough guys, you guys didn't have something go your way?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: What's that feel like? I can't imagine. I don't have
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: words for that. But anyways, No, I went back and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: watched the tape this morning, and a couple of things.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Number One, you know, Mahomes I thought, at times is
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a little too aggressive, which is always a fine line
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: because he's so special. But I thought there were times
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: where he had things underneath an intermediate that were there
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and he was either holding the ball took a sack,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you know, holding the ball forcing it down the field,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: versus taking what was there. I thought as the game progressed,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: he started seeing it a little better and taking what
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: was there a little more consistently. Rice was definitely a
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: highlight for me going back and watching them, like, Okay,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: they have something there, but they don't have they need
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: they need more guys just to give him more run
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: after catch because the Bills, this is the team that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: did this the first time cut you know, three or
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: four years ago, when the Bills played safeties deep and
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: kind of really put the shell over this offense. That
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was the first example that Now in that game, which
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: was a Thursday night game in Buffalo, the Chiefs and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: ran it down their throats and were content to do that.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to get more and more run
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: after catch receivers because teams are just going to try
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and put a lid on them. So that's something they're
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: gonna have to do in the offseason. But I didn't
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you know, Molda miss throws too. I mean like he
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: had some opportunities and missed, which I'm not used to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: seeing at all. So I didn't think he played a
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: super clean game. I didn't think he played his best And.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: They're still struggling pressure wise.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he moved they I thought they did a
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: good job early on, they moved the pocket around a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: little bit. But there were three or four times where
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you know, batted balls at the line of scrimmage, just
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: stuff you're not used to seeing, just kind of sloppy
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: uh offense for them, but uh, you know, I give
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Buffalo credit on their side of things. They made them
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable and you you know, as a lot of teams
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: have done held them under twenty points and they just
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: don't you know, Hey, this is a this is a
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: thing where I left this game saying, there's a lot
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: of different takeaways. But if if the Bills sneak in,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you don't want to play them, You don't want to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: see those guys as a road team, and you win
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the AFC South and you got to have Josh Allen
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Company coming to your place first round. I'm not loving that, right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is, even if Kansas City, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: isn't right, they they still have a chance in time
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: to figure this out. They're more than likely going to
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: still win the division. They're gonna get a home game
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and get a chance to get going a little bit.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to pack the road jerseys. They're
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: gonna end up playing on the road at some point
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: time in this postseason. I'm just not gonna throw dirt
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: on them by any stretch. But they are still searching.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: They have not found it yet.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Guys kind of strange, isn't. Yeah, the Broncos are a
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: game back, That's what I'm saying, placed in the West,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you know, like in what we've got this is week fourteen,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: we got fifty sixties, seventy eighty, We got four games left.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, technically the Chargers and the Raiders are not
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: at a thing either.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And I don't imagine that.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: The Chiefs are gonna lose three or four down the
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: stretch here. But but yeah, man, that's it's weird how
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that division has kind of disintegrated outside of the Broncos
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: who have been on.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah, no question. We don only spend
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: too much time here on this next one, Rett, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it was an entertaining game just in terms of the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: back and forth with the Bucks beating the Falcons twenty
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: nine to twenty five.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I think there's just two plays that really stick out
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: to me in this game, Bucks and Falcons.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: They threw it a bunch again, how about Drake London
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: good lord, Well.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Great to see like one of the guys with immense
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: talent like yeah, utilized in this offense. We've saw Kyle
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Pitts get into the end zone for the fifth time
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: in his career, Bjon Robinson, you only had ten carries,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: but was a factor in the past game, you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: And I think that happens sometimes. I know we're all
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: kind of waiting, like, all right, what is Bijon just
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: going to start to get twenty carries a game here
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: at some point? Well, in fact, is Tyler Isle's year
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: is a pretty good player too, and so they can
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: spread those carries around as long as Bijeon is getting
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: those fifteen or so touches. When you factor in the
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: past game, it's good. But here's here's are the two plays.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Desnt Ritter throw an interception in this game, backed up
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: inside his own ten yard line. But the mechanics of
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: the play, I thought, we're kind of interesting, and I'll
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: send you some homework to go back and watch this one. Yea,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: it is a He's essentially he's in the shotgun. He's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: got the running back out to his left. He's throwing
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: He's going to throw a quick screen out to his right,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: but he does a reverse move where his eyes go
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: away from the right side of the field. He's spinning
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: like three sixty spins left and then throwing back right,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: so he loses vision right of what's happening on the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: right side. Meanwhile, Carlton Davis sees this thing happening from
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: a mile away. Great, I assume, great film study, great
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: read recognition, react, and he picks the ball off right.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Carlton Davis picks the quick screen off and Ritter never
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: even saw him. But I don't know if that's as
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: much on him or as much on you know, what
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: they're asking him to do with the mechanics of that play.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: And so they end up scoring a touchdown there, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: then you know, this next one is a safety. They're
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: in max protect down inside the five yard line. They
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: got a two man route combination and both of them
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: are running. We got the far guy on the left
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: side running a deep post, okay, and then the guy
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: in the right, Drake London's running a double move. So
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Ritter is waiting. He hitches three times with his feet
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: planet in the end zone, but again their max protect
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and in the antoine Winfield comes on. A Blitze beats
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: the doors off the full back and but Rider's holding
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the ball three point seven seconds before he gets hit.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And you just can't do that in the end zone.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I don't care how many guys you got protected. Rank kidding,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: So those two plays come come back and haunt the Falcons.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I think in that game that ends up being really close.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers at six and seven division leaders, how
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: about three way times six and seven? Yeah, life is good,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: life is yeah, all right, we tease this at the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: top the Jets Texans. It was yeah, well really kind
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of a butt kicking thirty six. I touched on the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson stuff. They let him just kind of go
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: out there and play. He was loose under a lot
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of pressure. He got sacked the bun times, but he
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: was able to get away escape, made some kind of
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: those vintage kind of school yard plays that we saw
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: during his last year at BYU. I thought, also, you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I wrote down a couple of things on him that like,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: how do you make a guy comfortable? Right? A couple
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of things. Well, number one, you start by not dropping
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: the football. This is the only game he's played in
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: this year where he didn't have drops. No drops for
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the Jets in a rainy, messy weather game, which was nice.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: But I thought, I thought he had some answers on
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: some hots, so you know, some of the pressure he got,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: he had some answers. He was able to find him number.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: That was great, and then I wrote down the three
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: s's like when you're baking in the game plan for
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. And again, I'm not saying he's going to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: be a great player. I'm not even saying he's a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the NFL. But if you're going to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: get the best out of him from a scheme standpoint, screens, seams, scrambles,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: that's that's what he does. That's where he's comfortable. That's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: where he is. If you look at some of the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: he's thrown some really nice seamballs of tight ends when
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: he can get the back of a linebacker in other words,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you're getting you're seeing the back of the linebacker's head
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: running down the scene with tight ends. He's hit a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: handful of those this year. Where he's able to get
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that right up over the top was conklin. I believe
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: in this one. I think he had rough well a
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: couple of those balls. But he loves that throw. He's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: comfortable making that throw. So bake those into the offense.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Those seam balls, then screens. Obviously you've got brace Hall
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: is a big factor in that. Using him in the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: screen game. That gives us some easy completions, as we
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: like to say, see the ball go through the hoop
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and then the rest is kind of some school yard stuff.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: You're not really calling a scramble. But give him the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: liberty and the freedom. Hey, you get a free guy.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Make something happen. We don't need you to, you know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I think in the past this year, oh, just dirt
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the ball incompletion. Let's line up again. If we punt,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: we punt. We've got a great defense, Like he gets
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: not who he is. Don't just to free him up
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I thought you did that. When you
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: watch this game. It was a mixture of those three things.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up those throws to the tight
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: ends because those stood out to me as we were
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: watching this game live. I'm like, man, you know, I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: think maybe a couple of weeks ago, you know, Zach's
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Zach's not pulling the trigger on that one, right, He's
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: a you know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Risk, there's no risk throws you've got the back of
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the linebacker's head. There's no risk he can't see the ball.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, and he placed it perfectly on a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: couple of those and those were big ones. Obviously, Garrett
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Wilson having a nice game here is a is a
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: good development for the Jets offense. But yeah, I mean,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I think what you said at the top of the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: program here is is great. Go put that BYU helmet
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: back in there. Man, that's how this guy needs to play.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Like, let's take the handcumes live with the warts. Uh,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the other thing game with.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen all the time, right, I mean, on a
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: on a different kind of scale, I think, But man.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: One of the things this guy's got to play watching
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. A Jets defense played great,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: it was c J. Strouder had a tough day and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: unfortunately got to got hit late and got knocked out.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: But the Chargers game, as we referenced earlier, I think
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the Chargers had one one conversion on third down, maybe
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: one of thirteen or something like that. Houston was one
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: for twelve on third down. So yeah, he tells you
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number One, Tank Dell's not playing.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Who's a comfort, you know, kind of a security blanket
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: so to speak for CJ. Stroud That's a part of it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And the Jets have guys who can win on third down.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: This is a third down league. So when you are
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: when you're trying and build your roster defensively, who helps
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: us win on third down? You know who can cover,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: who can rush. The Jets are loaded in those in
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: those departments, they should be really good on third down defense.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And then the Jets were six or fifteen on third down,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: so a much better performance for them on third down.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: And I think Garrett Wilson had some of those of
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: tight ends as well, So I thought, sometimes you can
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: look at a box score and a idea this one
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: kind of told the story that Houston couldn't get anything
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: going offensively.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, you're starting to see
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: some of the attrition there have an effect on what
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: they want to do. It's not just Tank Dell, but
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz was out to and Dalton had been a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: bit third down right there in the middle of the field,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: there's your third down. And then when they when they
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: can't push. I mean, this team has made a living
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: on pushing the ball down the field. And with take
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: on the Nico Collins goes out early in the game,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you know, as well, you're really hamstrung here, and you
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: got CJ probably holding onto the ball, you know, a
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: little bit more than he'd like to, and get not
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: getting rid of it, and so he takes a couple
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: of those hits and that's unfortunate. Hopefully he gets back
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: soon enough. But look, you know, I don't know where
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: this is going to put the Texans in the in
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the scheme, in the great scheme of like this year,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: like finding their way into the playoffs. But the AFC South,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: if the Jags keep losing, is going to be there.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: If they can hold serve until you get Nico back,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: you can get Dalton back, and then maybe you can
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: find a way to patch this thing together and find
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: your way into the postseason. But bottom line is bright future.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: They're in Houston when they got all their weapons.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: No question. All right, well, I'll give you the scores
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: these other games. If there's another you want to throw
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: in there, go ahead. But you had the Niners behind
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Brock Purdy. They get the Seahawks twenty eight to sixteen,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the Lions and the Bears. How about this one? The
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Bears twenty eight to thirteen over the Lions. Colts Bengals
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Colts thirty four to fourteen. The Saints beat the Panthers
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: twenty eight to six, while the Panthers are terrible. Vikings
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Raiders three three to zero. So Thursday Night or a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Thursday Night er between a team that scored seven points
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and a team that scored zero points, and it'll be
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: eight versus Eastern Stick So fun times, fun times, anything
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you want to hit on those games, though, uh Man
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: brock Purdy was awesome. I mean, well, that's three and
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: sixty eight yards made it look easy, I mean, and
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: then you had it was a complete dominating performance. McCaffrey
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: goes for a buck forty five. They kicked their butts.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Jake Browning apparently had a thumb cramp.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I've never never heard of that. Yeah, yeah, he.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Actually admitted that he did not drink it off water.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: He got dehydrated and his thumb on his throwing hand cramped.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: He had to leave the game.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: AJ McCarron came in and played a couple of series,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: but Browning did come back again. Chase brown I think
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: is one of the morals of the story. There had
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: a big time screen touchdown Joe Mixon. They're really starting
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to cook with the running backs, maybe more so than
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: they did when Joe Burrow was in there, which is
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting to see a little bit. There may
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: be more of a push the ball down the field
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: with Burrow, but with Browning you keep the targets a
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: little bit closer into the line of scrimmage, and good
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: things kind of happen. And I think we're seeing that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: The interesting thing for me is like, what are the
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: bear you know, what's happening now with there?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Justin Field's played good?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: What are you going to do at number one now?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah? But I still go back to the same thing.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I think you have to be honest with yourself and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: if you really believe that these three things, two of
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: them are facts. Younger and cheaper, right, So younger and
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: cheaper are locked. You know, if you take a quarterback
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: at one in trade field, you're getting younger and cheaper guaranteed. Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: The second, the third factor, the most important factor, are
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you getting better? Right? Are you getting better?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Are right now?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Or are you going to be better in two years?
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: But it allows you the window to expand. So even
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: if you say, okay, you know, I won't mention the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: quarterback that they would take there. I think we all
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: know who that is. You could say that quarterback year
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: one versus Justin Next year, Justin might be better on
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: a scale of one to one hundred. Maybe Justin is
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: an eighty three or eighty four next year and this
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: new Fricky quarterbacks is seventy five. Yeah, but that's not
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: why you make that decision. You make it for two
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and three years down the line, when that quarterback still
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: cost you nothing. And that quarterback's now in ninety ninety one,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: ninety three, ninety five, So that that's gonna be interesting.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And if I'm the Bears, people are saying, ohf Justin
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Fields plays great down the stretch is gonna make their
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: life a nightmare. They're gonna have to sort this thing out.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, No, that's great. They hope he tears it up. Yeah,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: tear it out of return return when you make the move.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's gonna be a fascinating offseason. They
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: are going to be at the center of it, no doubt.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be a fascinating's going to follow, Yeah, all right,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I want to run everybody. We'll be back with four
• 34:56
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• 34:59
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• 35:02
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• 35:06
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• 35:09
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• 35:12
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• 35:16
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• 35:19
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• 35:24
  Speaker 1: back probably tomorrow. I'll be back in the mix, Ratt.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you doing a little extra homework this week. Good
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: to see you, man, and we'll catch up with everybody tomorrow.
• 35:32
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