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20-Meter Columns Found 1.2km Under the Great Pyramid _ Joe Rogan _ Aravind Srinivas _bestofjre _ · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: Built it two thousand and five, and ere let's just
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  Speaker 1: say back there, what the fuck were they using? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what were you what did you do? How did you
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  Speaker 1: get these stones down from the mountains who were five
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles away? How about that one? We were gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to that for sure. There's a tough no thank
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  Speaker 1: what's good? Good as any How about these temples that
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  Speaker 1: they find in India that are carved entirely out of
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  Speaker 1: one piece of stone? What did you do? How did
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  Speaker 1: you do that? How long ago did this happen? How
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  Speaker 1: many of them were buried? And then they had to
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  Speaker 1: uncover them and then like figure out like what is this?
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  Speaker 1: Who made it? There's no timeline, No one really knows.
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  Speaker 1: There's no evidence of tools that were capable of doing
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  Speaker 1: this kind of work back then. And they're huge and
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  Speaker 1: beautiful and perfect, and they have like acoustic properties and
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  Speaker 1: the geometry is fucking fantastic. Yeah, it's nuts.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: I said that all of these temples were actually just built,
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  Speaker 3: not just that there were specifically the locations for them
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  Speaker 3: are picked out so that you get the right seismic
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  Speaker 3: vibrations over there. In terms of like proximity to the ocean,
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  Speaker 3: the gravitational waves from the sun and the moon. People
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  Speaker 3: actually made that level of like.
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  Speaker 1: Look at this, man, imagine the undertaking of carving that
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  Speaker 1: temple out of the side of a fucking giant piece
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  Speaker 1: of rock. Yeah, you screw up one thing and it's over.
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  Speaker 3: There's no simulations, you just have to build it.
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  Speaker 1: What did they have? This is the question, Like, imagine
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  Speaker 1: today if we had to do this. Look, it's possible,
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  Speaker 1: this is a possible endeavor. It can be done. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but imagine what kind of technology would we have to
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  Speaker 1: need to map it out to make sure that it
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  Speaker 1: was all precise? Did it all a lot? I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's precise within like millimeters from point to point, and
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  Speaker 1: everything is done out of one piece of stone. Like,
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  Speaker 1: what did they do? Was it chisels? Did you do
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  Speaker 1: that with chisels? That's crazy? How many time did you
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  Speaker 1: have to sharpen your fucking chisel? That's nuts? Or do
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  Speaker 1: you have something completely different? Because some of the more
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  Speaker 1: intricate ones, see if you can find these some of
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  Speaker 1: the crazy ones. Inside these temples, there's sculptures that are
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  Speaker 1: three dimensional and they're carved like inside of the sculpture.
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  Speaker 1: So there's like an outer area and then there's these
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  Speaker 1: all these openings and then inside it's highly detailed, like
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  Speaker 1: how'd you even reach in there?
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  Speaker 2: It just thesel and hammers? And I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: awesome and careful geometric gives people trying to do that.
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  Speaker 2: They said, like, this is how much work someone could
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  Speaker 2: do in like twelve hours with a hammer and they
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  Speaker 2: get nowhere, let alone like perfect and looking good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nuts, man. And there's a lot of evidence
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  Speaker 1: of stuff like that all over the world, which is
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  Speaker 1: really weird. You have the stuff in Peru like socks
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  Speaker 1: of a human. When you look at these stones and
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  Speaker 1: it looks like they're melted into place and they're nine
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  Speaker 1: hundred tons, Like what did you do? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: How did you even get it up there?
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  Speaker 1: How'd you where'd they get it? How'd you get it there?
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  Speaker 1: How'd you ligne it? Perfectly built in only eighteen years?
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  Speaker 1: How do they know that? How do they know that?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's attributed to one king? Yeah, so King Christian
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  Speaker 1: the first seven fifty six to seven seventy three CE. Maybe,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you know though?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, said archaeologist said, it would have calculated it would
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  Speaker 2: taken them one hundred years to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean this is very like you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, different historian accounts are all like muddled up,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh, Well it's a real problem. History is a
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  Speaker 1: real problem.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it goes back to like the thing you
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  Speaker 3: were saying, right, you know, what is one thing that's
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  Speaker 3: common across all these different ages is human curiosity. So
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's something that you know, I would love
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  Speaker 3: to get your take on this. Like I've been dying
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  Speaker 3: with this idea called the curiosity premium, which is the
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  Speaker 3: most effective people, the most successful people have always been
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  Speaker 3: the most curious people, the ones who have been good
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  Speaker 3: at asking the best questions, and they tend to do
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  Speaker 3: better in every aspect of their life. And you're a
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  Speaker 3: good example of that. So that's why i'd love to
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  Speaker 3: get your take on this. And the reason I believe
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  Speaker 3: that is because long term, people who continuously ask questions
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  Speaker 3: tend to do better. They make more money, they have
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  Speaker 3: a higher quality of life, they're happy, they have more
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  Speaker 3: compounding relationships. People find them more interesting, and so they
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  Speaker 3: compound their relationships over time, and so naturally they end
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  Speaker 3: up succeeding. But their spirit of inquiry. Their intrinsic curiosity
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  Speaker 3: doesn't actually stop once they succeed it, only they just
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  Speaker 3: channelize it even more. And so that's why it keeps compounding.
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  Speaker 3: And I would argue that like it's the only quality,
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  Speaker 3: it's the only like quality that makes us really human,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in this world where we can seek a
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  Speaker 3: lot of information and get information way faster than ever before,
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  Speaker 3: it feels like that's that one universal human quality that's
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  Speaker 3: existed since ancient time, since the oldest text. Like in fact,
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  Speaker 3: in the Rigway them, you're explicitly encouraged to seek wisdom
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  Speaker 3: more than wealth. And it's not just an idea specific
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  Speaker 3: to Hinduism. That specific idea exists in the Bible. It
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  Speaker 3: exists in the Quran, exists in the Torah. It's not
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  Speaker 3: that seeking well is admonished by religious texts. It's actually
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  Speaker 3: that it's more important to seek wisdom. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: like you can why I said, you're a good example
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  Speaker 3: of that. It's like, sure you have a very very
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  Speaker 3: large podcast, but the way you're running it is like
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  Speaker 3: you're just curious about a lot of things and asking
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  Speaker 3: a lot of questions. And I think that's that one
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  Speaker 3: quality that's very important. So, and I feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: the oldest thing. It's the only thing that we've known
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  Speaker 3: since ancient time.
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  Speaker 1: Being curious, well, I think it's stimulating to people, and
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  Speaker 1: genuine curiosity is stimulating to other people. When when someone
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  Speaker 1: is genuinely curious about something, I become curious about it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's contagious and I think that it's it's
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  Speaker 1: also an authentic quality, and I think there's there's something
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  Speaker 1: about really wanting to know something and being interested in something.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're curious, generally you're going to ask more
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  Speaker 1: questions about something so you have a deeper understanding of it.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're trying to do whatever you're trying to do,
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  Speaker 1: a sport, a game, you'll probably get better at it
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  Speaker 1: because you're more curious because instead of just assuming things,
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  Speaker 1: you'll ask more questions, you'll re examine things. It's genuine,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's one of the most important human qualities, and
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  Speaker 1: to me, it's one of the most attractive human qualities.
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  Speaker 1: It's always been. When I meet curious people, I'm always interested.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always like, like, tell me what you're curious about,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what I'm curious about. Let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's And this podcast started out genuinely
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  Speaker 1: because of well, there's a lot of just talking shit
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  Speaker 1: with friends, but it also led into like one of
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  Speaker 1: my very first guests, actual guests, was Graham Hancock, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just because I was curious because I had read
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  Speaker 1: Fingerprints of the Gods and I'd seen him talk, I'd
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  Speaker 1: seen speeches, and I'm like, I want to know, like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you know? What do you think is going on?
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  Speaker 1: And he's another guy incredibly curious and absolutely fascinated with
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  Speaker 1: his takes on ancient history. He has been talking about
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  Speaker 1: this subject a long time. And when he first when
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  Speaker 1: he first wrote Fingerprints of the Gods, I think that
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  Speaker 1: came out in like I want to say, he's like
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  Speaker 1: ninety seven or ninety eight or something like that, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember reading it, and so many of my friends,
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  Speaker 1: you know, educated friends, like this, horseshit? Why are you
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  Speaker 1: paying attention to this? More and more and more as
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  Speaker 1: time goes on, it's been proven that he's correct. The
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  Speaker 1: timelines shifted back and from the publication of that book,
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  Speaker 1: the discovery of go Beckley Tepe and the surrounding area,
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  Speaker 1: like it's like Okay, now we realize, well, there was
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  Speaker 1: some crazy shit going on at the very least eleven
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  Speaker 1: thousand years ago, so we pushed civilization back five thousand
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  Speaker 1: years so like, and this is just what we found now,
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  Speaker 1: and we keep finding things, keep digging, keep looking. And
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  Speaker 1: then you see the stuff that they're finding underneath the
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  Speaker 1: pyramid with this radio tomography where they're looking under the pyramid,
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  Speaker 1: that it seems that there's structures under the we've seen
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  Speaker 1: that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 1: I had. The scientist that's involved in it, he's an
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  Speaker 1: Italian guy, Filippo Biondi, and he came on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Wonderful accent, almost as good as yours. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: But he's describing the use of this stuff and that
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  Speaker 1: they've used it successfully on known areas in pyramids and
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  Speaker 1: other structures, and they can. In fact, in Italy there
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  Speaker 1: is a particle collider that is underneath the mountain and
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  Speaker 1: using this technology, which is satellite based technology, they get
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  Speaker 1: an accurate description of this particle collider that's I think
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  Speaker 1: it's twelve hundred meters underground. Like how far is that
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  Speaker 1: thing underground? We'll find out, but it's like deep understone
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  Speaker 1: and they find that they can get an accurate like
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  Speaker 1: and they can actually give you the dimensions of this
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  Speaker 1: particle collider. They have like an image of it. And
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  Speaker 1: this same technology is showing that there's these columns underneath
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  Speaker 1: the pyramid in various places that are twenty meters wide,
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  Speaker 1: and they have coils around them. They don't know what
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  Speaker 1: the hell they are, and they the whole structure of
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  Speaker 1: this thing. It's not small. It goes almost a kilometer
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  Speaker 1: into the ground. There's like this enormous bottom of it,
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  Speaker 1: and it seems like it's something that's constructed. And so
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  Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, well, the pyramid is crazy, it's crazy enough,
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  Speaker 1: but if there's something underneath that that's a man made
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  Speaker 1: or someone made it, that's a colle bometer deep into
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  Speaker 1: the ground, like what the fuck are we even talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Like who made this? What? What did they have? One
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  Speaker 1: point two kilometers into the mountain? That's nuts. It's a
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  Speaker 1: half a fucking mile in it plus into the mountain.
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  Speaker 1: And this thing can see through all that and get
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  Speaker 1: this accurate depiction of this particle collider. And it's showing
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  Speaker 1: with multiple scans, not just one, multiple scans in different technology.
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  Speaker 1: The same exact images, the same exact structures underneath this
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  Speaker 1: fucking immense two million, three hundred thousand stone structure that
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  Speaker 1: almost perfectly aligns to true north, south, east and west. Like,
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  Speaker 1: what what was going on? Don't tell me, Polleye, don't
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  Speaker 1: tell me copper tools, Like, what the fuck was going on?
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  Speaker 1: Something crazy? And I have a feeling our simplistic explanation
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  Speaker 1: of it is just doing no one any justice. It's
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  Speaker 1: doing no service to history, it's doing no service to
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  Speaker 1: our understanding. They've got to be a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: open in the fact that they are perplexed and not
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  Speaker 1: just perplexed by stuff like this. This is a three
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  Speaker 1: D print of an actual vase that exists in Egypt
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  Speaker 1: that they found. That is, they found in tombs of
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  Speaker 1: the Old Kingdom. This thing was somehow or other. It's
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  Speaker 1: made with dite, so it's incredibly hard stone and made
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  Speaker 1: to like a thousandth of a human hair, and it's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like crazy dimensions, like the way the precision of it
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  Speaker 1: and wasn't turned on a lathe because it has handles.
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  Speaker 1: So you look at the handles on the side, well,
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  Speaker 1: you can't carve the and those are perfect too, like
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  Speaker 1: the alignment of everything, and it's like you just look
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  Speaker 1: at it. Oh, it's a vase, no big deal, but no,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of fucking crazy, like how did they cut
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  Speaker 1: that out? There's also these there's all these core marks
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  Speaker 1: in some of the stones that they find in Egypt,
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  Speaker 1: and they've lies the amount of revolutions per minute that
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  Speaker 1: you would have to go through to be able to
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  Speaker 1: cut through something and leave these lines, and then defies explanation,
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  Speaker 1: like what is this? This is crazy. This is not
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  Speaker 1: sand and copper and just rubbing things. No, this is
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  Speaker 1: some insane technology that we don't understand. There's scoop marks
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  Speaker 1: out of the bottoms of some of these stones. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? How'd you scoop rock? Like what?
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  Speaker 1: It looks like ice cream? Like they just went roup?
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  Speaker 1: Like what are they doing? There's so many questions.
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  Speaker 3: What tools did did they even have to do all
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  Speaker 3: these things?
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  Speaker 1: They had copper, I mean, there's there's some evidence that
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  Speaker 1: they had sums, iron, and then I think toot On
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  Speaker 1: Common had a dagger that was actually made from meteorite,
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  Speaker 1: which is interesting. You know, like when they could find
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  Speaker 1: meteorites and make things out of them was very valuable obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but the just the sheer volume of work that they
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  Speaker 1: did there. It's if like you look at the template man,
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  Speaker 1: you look at all the three major pyramids, you look
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  Speaker 1: at all the different temples and all the construction, and
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  Speaker 1: the older you go, the deeper into the sand they go,
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  Speaker 1: the more complex these things are, which is even weirder.
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  Speaker 1: So it seems like civilization after civilization just there would
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  Speaker 1: there was probably a rise and fall with their technology
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think it's it's it's just incredible that none
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  Speaker 3: of this knowledge was properly documented ever. And uh, it's
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  Speaker 3: a whole line of work to just go understand like
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  Speaker 3: how to even rebuild these things leave alone, how did
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  Speaker 3: they build it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, think about what we're doing, right, So all of
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  Speaker 1: our knowledge is essentially stored on hard drives and paper. Mm,
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  Speaker 1: those are the two things that are going to deteriorate
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  Speaker 1: the quickest.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we should take a dump of