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Untraditional Education: Unschooling and Gentle Parenting For the Neurodivergent · Skirts Up!

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Hey,
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you.
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You're
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tuned
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in
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to
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the
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Skirts
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up
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show
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with
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Samantha
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and
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Melissa.
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Join
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our
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mission
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to
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normalize
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failure,
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but
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still
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uncover
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the
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positives
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at
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every
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twist
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and
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turn.
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Skirts
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up,
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but
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keep
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your
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panties
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on.
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What's
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up,
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Skirts
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up
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squad?
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It's
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Samantha
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and
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Melissa,
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and
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we
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are
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gonna
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have
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a
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bomb
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ass
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time
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today.
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I
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can
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already
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tell
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we
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have.
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We
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are
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opening
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up
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with
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Sam,
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number
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two,
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because
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I'm
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number
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one,
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obviously.
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And
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we
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have
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her
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daughter
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with
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us.
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Kaya.
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Hi,
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guys.
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Hi.
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That
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was
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so
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cute.
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It
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was
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in
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perfect
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unison.
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That's
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probably
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the
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only
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time
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we're
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in
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perfect
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unison.
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Oh,
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this
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is
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for,
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like,
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the
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only
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time.
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I
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like
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your
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blind.
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I
0:52
told
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you
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guys.
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This
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is
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gonna
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be
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hilarious
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if
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you
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can't
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tell
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already.
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Usually
0:58
Melissa
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and
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I
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kind
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of
0:59
do
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a
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separate
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intro,
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but
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we
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thought
1:02
it'd
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be
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really
1:03
fun
1:03
to
1:03
include
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them
1:04
in
1:04
this
1:04
intro
1:04
and
1:05
get
1:05
the
1:05
conversation
1:06
kicked
1:07
off
1:07
altogether.
1:08
Yeah.
1:09
So
1:09
who
1:09
wants
1:09
to
1:09
start
1:10
with
1:10
their,
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like,
1:10
their
1:11
fail?
1:11
Crickets.
1:12
I'm
1:12
gonna
1:12
go.
1:13
I
1:13
literally
1:13
hear
1:13
crickets.
1:15
No,
1:15
there's
1:16
no.
1:16
Oh,
1:16
actually
1:16
that's
1:17
hilarious
1:17
because
1:18
there
1:18
is
1:18
a
1:18
cricket
1:18
that
1:19
is
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in
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this.
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Love
1:22
it.
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Yes.
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So
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for
1:23
the
1:23
nights
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I've
1:24
been
1:24
here
1:24
at
1:24
work
1:24
and
1:25
working,
1:25
and
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he's
1:26
like,
1:26
in
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this
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back
1:27
corner
1:27
in
1:27
the
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shop,
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and
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he's
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just,
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like,
1:29
cricketing
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away.
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And
1:30
every
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time
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I
1:31
go
1:31
close
1:31
to
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him,
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he
1:32
gets
1:32
quiet.
1:32
And
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then
1:33
if
1:33
I
1:33
stand
1:33
still,
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he
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starts
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cricketing
1:35
again.
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And
1:36
then
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I'm
1:36
like,
1:36
I
1:37
can't
1:37
know.
1:37
I
1:38
literally
1:38
hear
1:38
crickets.
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But
1:39
it's
1:39
at
1:39
my
1:39
house.
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Okay,
1:41
well,
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so
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can
1:45
I
1:45
share
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my
1:45
fail?
1:46
Hit
1:46
it.
1:47
My
1:47
fail.
1:48
And
1:48
we'll
1:48
just
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keep
1:48
it
1:49
really
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short
1:49
and
1:49
simple
1:50
and
1:50
sweet.
1:51
It's
1:51
literally
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just
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about
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not
1:52
always
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being
1:53
good,
1:53
about
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taking
1:55
and
1:55
making
1:55
time
1:56
for
1:56
myself.
1:57
So
1:58
we.
1:58
I
1:59
was
1:59
supposed
1:59
to
1:59
go
2:00
hang
2:00
out
2:00
with
2:00
Sam
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and
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some
2:02
of
2:02
our.
2:02
One
2:02
of
2:02
our
2:02
other
2:03
friends.
2:03
I'm
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gonna
2:03
say
2:04
shout
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out
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to
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Courtney
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and
2:07
a
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couple.
2:07
We
2:07
were
2:07
supposed
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to
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go
2:08
a
2:08
couple
2:08
weeks
2:08
ago,
2:09
but
2:09
then
2:09
something
2:10
happened
2:10
and
2:10
we
2:11
had
2:11
to
2:11
change
2:11
the
2:11
date.
2:12
And
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Sam
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texts
2:13
me
2:13
yesterday
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and
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she's
2:14
like,
2:14
are
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you
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ready
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for
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tonight?
2:16
And
2:16
I
2:16
said,
2:17
wait,
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what?
2:18
And
2:18
I
2:18
looked
2:19
at
2:19
the
2:19
calendar
2:19
and
2:20
I
2:20
was
2:20
like,
2:20
oh,
2:20
no,
2:21
is
2:21
it
2:21
the
2:21
Claremont
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thing?
2:22
And
2:23
she's
2:23
like,
2:23
yes.
2:24
And
2:24
basically,
2:25
I
2:25
have
2:26
just
2:26
been
2:26
so
2:26
overwhelmed
2:27
with
2:27
work.
2:28
I've
2:28
been.
2:29
I
2:29
was
2:29
like.
2:29
I
2:30
had
2:30
stayed
2:30
up
2:30
the
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whole
2:30
night
2:31
previous.
2:32
She's
2:32
working
2:32
terrible
2:33
with
2:33
that.
2:34
I
2:34
am
2:35
bad,
2:35
but
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sometimes
2:36
you
2:36
just.
2:36
I
2:37
just
2:37
have
2:37
to.
2:38
Yeah.
2:38
And
2:38
so,
2:38
like,
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I
2:39
hadn't
2:39
slept
2:39
in
2:40
hours
2:40
and
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I
2:40
was
2:40
just
2:41
like,
2:41
I.
2:41
I
2:41
can't.
2:42
Like,
2:42
I
2:42
can't
2:43
I'm
2:43
at
2:43
work
2:43
right
2:43
now.
2:44
I
2:44
didn't
2:44
go
2:44
to
2:45
home
2:45
last
2:45
night.
2:46
I
2:46
was
2:46
here
2:46
yesterday.
2:47
I
2:47
just
2:48
have
2:48
to.
2:49
I
2:49
have
2:49
to
2:49
go
2:49
home
2:49
and
2:50
sleep
2:50
as
2:50
soon
2:50
as
2:51
work
2:51
is
2:51
over.
2:52
And
2:52
I
2:53
was
2:53
very
2:53
sad,
2:53
and
2:53
I
2:54
missed
2:54
getting
2:54
to
2:55
go
2:55
downtown
2:55
with
2:55
my
2:55
friends.
2:56
Yeah.
2:57
And
2:57
we've
2:57
been
2:57
talking
2:58
a
2:58
lot
2:58
about
2:59
the
3:00
entrepreneurship
3:01
burnout.
3:01
So
3:02
I'm
3:03
hoping
3:03
that
3:04
you're
3:04
able
3:04
to
3:04
catch
3:04
up
3:05
and
3:05
rejuvenate
3:07
before
3:07
it
3:07
gets.
3:08
I
3:09
agree.
3:10
I
3:10
want
3:10
to
3:10
rejuvenate.
3:11
Yeah.
3:12
Yeah,
3:12
that
3:12
word.
3:13
Thank
3:13
you.
3:18
No,
3:18
you're
3:19
absolutely
3:19
right.
3:19
I.
3:20
I
3:20
do
3:20
need
3:20
to.
3:20
I
3:21
do
3:21
need
3:21
to,
3:21
like,
3:21
just
3:22
kind
3:22
of,
3:22
like,
3:22
take
3:22
a
3:22
step
3:22
back
3:23
sometimes.
3:24
So
3:24
I.
3:24
I'm
3:24
working
3:24
on
3:25
it.
3:25
I
3:26
think
3:26
I
3:26
might
3:26
go
3:26
back
3:26
and
3:27
listen
3:27
to
3:27
that
3:27
episode
3:27
we
3:28
did
3:28
with
3:28
Jill,
3:28
one
3:29
of
3:29
our
3:29
very
3:29
first
3:30
episodes.
3:31
And
3:31
she
3:31
talked
3:32
about
3:32
how
3:33
different
3:33
types
3:33
of.
3:34
What.
3:35
She
3:35
talked
3:35
about
3:35
how
3:35
different
3:36
types
3:36
of,
3:36
like,
3:36
learning
3:37
abilities
3:37
that
3:37
everybody
3:38
has
3:38
and.
3:39
Right.
3:39
How
3:40
they
3:40
operate
3:40
and
3:41
can,
3:41
like,
3:41
prioritize
3:42
their
3:43
needs
3:43
and
3:43
what
3:43
they
3:44
want
3:44
to
3:44
do
3:44
in
3:44
their
3:44
day.
3:45
And
3:45
there
3:45
was
3:46
just
3:46
so
3:46
much
3:46
fun
3:47
little
3:47
tidbits,
3:47
and
3:47
I
3:47
bet
3:48
it
3:48
would
3:48
be
3:48
helpful
3:48
to
3:49
brush
3:49
up
3:49
on
3:49
your
3:50
architect.
3:50
Architect
3:51
type
3:52
archetype.
3:53
Yeah.
3:53
Yeah,
3:54
exactly.
3:55
Yeah.
3:55
So
3:55
I
3:55
think
3:56
that's
3:56
what
3:56
I'm
3:56
gonna
3:56
do.
3:57
Yeah.
3:58
But
3:58
I
3:59
realized
4:00
recently
4:00
that
4:01
I'm
4:01
still
4:01
using
4:02
Ada
4:03
dying
4:03
a.
4:03
To
4:03
my
4:04
dog
4:04
dying
4:04
as
4:04
a
4:05
crutch
4:06
for
4:06
not
4:07
continuing
4:08
all
4:09
the,
4:09
like,
4:09
awesome
4:10
progress
4:10
that
4:10
I
4:10
was
4:10
making
4:11
because
4:11
I
4:11
had
4:11
started
4:11
journaling
4:12
and
4:12
started
4:12
planning
4:13
out
4:13
my
4:13
weeks
4:13
and
4:14
planning
4:14
out
4:14
my
4:14
months
4:15
and
4:15
doing
4:16
nightly
4:16
oracle
4:17
readings,
4:17
and
4:18
just,
4:19
like,
4:19
it
4:20
just
4:20
made
4:20
my
4:20
day
4:20
go
4:21
so
4:21
much
4:21
smoother
4:21
every
4:22
day.
4:22
And
4:22
then
4:23
when
4:23
Ada
4:23
died,
4:23
I
4:24
stopped
4:24
doing
4:24
all
4:24
of
4:25
that.
4:25
And
4:25
I
4:25
have
4:25
felt
4:26
in
4:26
complete
4:27
disarray.
4:27
Like,
4:28
I
4:28
feel
4:28
like
4:29
my
4:29
brain
4:29
is
4:29
all
4:29
over
4:30
the
4:30
place.
4:30
I
4:30
feel
4:30
like
4:31
I'm
4:31
not
4:31
getting
4:31
things
4:32
done
4:32
like
4:32
I
4:32
was.
4:33
And
4:33
it
4:33
felt
4:33
so,
4:33
so
4:34
good
4:34
when
4:34
I
4:34
was
4:34
doing
4:34
it.
4:35
And
4:36
I
4:36
keep
4:36
saying,
4:37
oh,
4:37
I'll
4:37
start
4:37
it
4:38
next
4:38
Monday.
4:38
I'll
4:38
start
4:39
it
4:39
tomorrow.
4:39
I'll
4:39
start
4:40
it
4:40
next
4:40
Monday.
4:40
And
4:41
I
4:41
never
4:41
do.
4:42
So
4:42
my
4:43
fail
4:43
is
4:43
that
4:44
I
4:44
keep
4:44
pushing
4:44
it
4:44
off
4:45
and
4:45
I
4:45
keep
4:45
using
4:45
a.
4:46
To
4:46
dying
4:46
as
4:47
an
4:47
excuse
4:47
as
4:47
to
4:48
why
4:48
I
4:48
stopped
4:48
and
4:48
why
4:49
I'm
4:49
not.
4:50
And
4:50
the
4:51
success
4:51
is
4:51
that
4:51
I'm
4:52
going
4:52
to
4:52
stop
4:53
putting
4:53
it
4:53
off
4:54
and
4:54
I'm
4:54
going
4:54
to
4:55
get
4:55
my
4:55
life
4:55
in
4:55
check
4:56
again.
4:57
Well,
4:58
I
4:58
think
4:58
you
4:58
might
4:58
need
4:59
to
4:59
go
4:59
back
4:59
and
4:59
listen.
5:01
No,
5:02
just
5:02
kidding.
5:02
No,
5:02
actually,
5:03
I'm
5:03
serious.
5:04
No,
5:04
for
5:05
real.
5:05
I
5:05
keep
5:05
hearing,
5:06
eat
5:06
your
5:06
frog
5:07
first.
5:07
Eat
5:07
your
5:07
frog
5:08
first.
5:08
I
5:08
keep
5:08
hearing
5:08
that,
5:09
so.
5:10
Oh,
5:10
that's
5:10
funny,
5:10
because
5:11
that's
5:11
Jill's
5:11
episode
5:12
I.
5:12
I
5:12
was
5:13
thinking
5:13
about
5:14
the
5:14
episode
5:14
we
5:14
did
5:14
with
5:15
the
5:15
grief
5:15
counselor
5:16
and
5:16
how
5:16
she
5:17
said,
5:17
yes,
5:18
you
5:18
have
5:18
to
5:18
feel
5:19
your
5:19
feelings.
5:20
But
5:21
she
5:21
also.
5:21
She.
5:22
Remember
5:22
how
5:22
she's
5:22
like,
5:22
I
5:22
don't
5:22
want
5:22
to
5:22
offend
5:23
anybody,
5:23
but
5:24
you
5:24
kind
5:24
of.
5:24
You
5:24
just
5:25
can't
5:25
wallow.
5:26
What
5:27
did
5:27
she.
5:27
There
5:27
was
5:27
something
5:27
about
5:28
poopy
5:28
diapers.
5:29
She
5:29
said
5:29
that
5:29
a
5:29
lot.
5:30
That.
5:31
Don't
5:31
say
5:31
your
5:31
poopy
5:32
diaper.
5:34
Oh,
5:34
that.
5:36
I
5:36
was
5:37
like,
5:37
I
5:37
can't
5:37
remember
5:37
what
5:38
she
5:38
said,
5:38
but
5:38
there
5:39
was
5:39
a
5:39
lot
5:39
of
5:39
poop
5:39
and
5:39
a
5:39
lot
5:40
of
5:40
diapers.
5:41
There
5:41
was
5:41
one
5:42
poop
5:42
and
5:43
one
5:43
diaper,
5:43
but
5:44
we
5:44
thought
5:44
it
5:44
was
5:45
hilarious.
5:47
Oh,
5:47
and
5:48
didn't
5:48
we
5:48
talk
5:48
about
5:49
poop
5:49
last
5:49
time,
5:50
too?
5:50
Because
5:50
I
5:50
made
5:50
you
5:50
laugh.
5:51
I
5:52
can't
5:52
remember.
5:53
And
5:53
now
5:54
I'm
5:54
making
5:54
a
5:54
14
5:54
year
5:55
old
5:55
laugh
5:55
with
5:55
poop.
6:00
It's
6:00
not
6:00
my
6:00
fault.
6:04
Well,
6:04
so,
6:05
yeah.
6:05
Anyway,
6:06
I
6:06
don't
6:07
think
6:07
there's
6:07
anything
6:07
wrong
6:08
with
6:08
the
6:08
fact
6:08
that
6:08
you
6:08
had
6:09
to,
6:09
like,
6:09
step
6:09
back
6:09
and
6:10
take
6:10
some
6:10
time
6:11
to
6:11
grieve.
6:11
And
6:12
I
6:12
think
6:12
it's
6:13
wise
6:13
of
6:13
you
6:13
to
6:14
be
6:14
like,
6:14
you're.
6:15
You're
6:15
being
6:15
introspective
6:16
and
6:16
I'm
6:16
proud
6:16
of
6:17
you.
6:17
First
6:17
things.
6:18
It's
6:18
time
6:19
to
6:19
get
6:19
back
6:19
on
6:19
the.
6:19
I
6:20
need
6:20
to.
6:20
It
6:21
felt
6:21
so
6:21
good.
6:22
And
6:22
now
6:22
here
6:23
I
6:23
am,
6:23
like,
6:24
just
6:24
winging
6:25
it
6:25
and
6:25
it
6:26
doesn't
6:26
feel
6:26
good.
6:26
So
6:27
I
6:27
need
6:27
to
6:27
do
6:27
it.
6:27
Yeah.
6:28
Yeah.
6:30
So,
6:30
yeah.
6:31
Does.
6:31
So
6:32
about
6:32
Sam
6:32
number
6:32
two
6:33
or
6:33
Kaya,
6:34
do
6:34
either
6:34
of
6:34
you
6:35
have.
6:35
Which.
6:35
I
6:35
have
6:35
a
6:36
dog
6:36
named
6:36
Kaya.
6:41
No,
6:42
I
6:42
think
6:42
mine
6:43
would
6:43
actually
6:43
be.
6:44
So
6:45
I
6:46
recently
6:46
started
6:46
seeing
6:46
a
6:47
functional
6:47
medicine
6:47
doctor.
6:48
I've
6:49
got
6:49
some
6:49
thyroid
6:50
issues
6:50
and
6:51
I'm
6:51
struggling.
6:52
She's
6:52
pretty
6:52
sure
6:52
I'm
6:52
struggling
6:53
with
6:53
adrenal
6:53
fatigue.
6:54
So
6:54
last
6:55
week
6:55
I
6:55
had
6:55
to
6:55
come
6:55
off
6:56
all
6:56
my
6:56
ADHD
6:57
medication.
6:57
Oh,
6:58
no.
6:59
It
6:59
was
7:00
a
7:00
struggle
7:00
last
7:01
week.
7:03
Yeah,
7:04
shit.
7:04
Scum
7:04
is
7:05
probably
7:05
the
7:05
better
7:06
word.
7:07
So,
7:07
like,
7:08
it
7:08
was
7:08
all
7:08
I
7:08
could
7:09
do
7:10
to
7:10
keep
7:10
my
7:10
notes
7:11
for
7:11
work.
7:13
I'm
7:13
not
7:14
a
7:14
super
7:15
big
7:15
procrastinator.
7:16
I'm
7:16
working
7:16
on
7:16
my
7:16
masters.
7:18
Literally
7:18
turned
7:19
that
7:19
stuff
7:19
in
7:19
yesterday,
7:19
three
7:20
hours
7:20
before
7:20
the
7:20
deadline.
7:21
But
7:21
it
7:21
also
7:22
reminded
7:22
me
7:22
that
7:23
probably
7:24
I
7:24
don't
7:24
slow
7:24
down
7:25
enough.
7:26
I'm
7:26
somebody
7:26
that's
7:27
like,
7:27
super
7:27
busy.
7:27
And
7:27
I
7:28
told
7:28
my
7:28
husband
7:29
last
7:29
week,
7:29
I
7:29
was
7:29
like,
7:30
I'm
7:30
realizing
7:30
I
7:30
burned
7:31
the
7:31
candle
7:31
not
7:31
just
7:32
from
7:32
both
7:32
ends,
7:32
but
7:32
also
7:33
in
7:33
the
7:33
middle.
7:34
Wow.
7:34
So
7:35
it
7:35
was
7:35
just
7:35
kind
7:36
of
7:36
a
7:36
good
7:36
reminder
7:36
that
7:37
even
7:37
though
7:37
the
7:38
medication
7:38
helps
7:38
me
7:38
do
7:39
everything
7:39
I
7:39
need
7:39
to
7:39
do,
7:40
I
7:40
also
7:40
need
7:41
to
7:41
slow
7:41
down,
7:42
like,
7:42
because
7:43
that's
7:43
probably
7:43
part
7:44
of
7:44
why
7:44
I've
7:44
got
7:44
adrenal
7:44
fatigue.
7:45
So
7:46
Wow.
7:47
I
7:47
feel
7:47
like
7:48
that
7:48
fits
7:48
right
7:48
on
7:49
in.
7:50
Yeah.
7:50
Yeah,
7:50
exactly.
7:53
Yeah.
7:54
Mine's
7:54
a
7:55
little
7:55
more
7:55
basic.
7:55
I
7:56
was
7:56
making
7:56
candy
7:57
bracelets.
7:58
It's
7:58
the
7:58
type
7:58
of
7:58
bead
7:59
and
7:59
I
8:00
was
8:00
literally
8:01
tying
8:01
it
8:01
up
8:02
and
8:02
it
8:02
snapped
8:03
on
8:03
me
8:03
and
8:03
it
8:03
hit
8:03
my
8:04
hand.
8:06
You
8:06
just
8:06
get
8:06
to
8:06
eat
8:07
it
8:07
now?
8:08
No,
8:08
it's
8:09
just
8:09
a
8:09
bead
8:09
type.
8:10
They're
8:10
just
8:10
bigger
8:11
beads.
8:12
Yeah.
8:12
I
8:12
wish
8:13
it
8:13
was
8:13
actual
8:13
candy.
8:13
That
8:14
would.
8:14
That
8:14
would
8:14
have
8:14
made
8:14
it
8:15
so
8:15
much
8:15
better,
8:16
right?
8:16
Yeah.
8:18
I
8:19
have
8:19
to
8:19
eat
8:19
this
8:19
bracelet
8:20
now.
8:20
Darn
8:22
right.
8:22
Oh
8:22
my
8:23
God.
8:23
That
8:23
would
8:23
be
8:23
like
8:24
Nora.
8:24
Nora
8:25
has
8:25
this
8:25
popsicle.
8:26
My
8:26
3
8:26
year
8:26
old,
8:27
she's
8:27
got
8:27
this
8:27
popsicle
8:28
addiction.
8:28
And
8:29
so
8:29
she'll
8:29
like
8:29
eat
8:29
a
8:30
popsicle.
8:30
She
8:30
goes,
8:31
can
8:31
I
8:31
have
8:31
another
8:31
one?
8:31
I'm
8:32
sure.
8:32
And
8:32
so
8:32
four
8:33
popsicles
8:33
later,
8:34
she
8:34
goes,
8:34
can
8:34
I
8:34
have
8:34
another
8:34
one?
8:35
And
8:35
she
8:35
just
8:35
like
8:36
cocks
8:36
her
8:36
head
8:36
to
8:36
the
8:36
side.
8:37
Please,
8:37
mommy.
8:38
And
8:38
don't
8:38
say
8:38
no,
8:39
say
8:39
yes.
8:40
And
8:40
I
8:40
go,
8:41
okay,
8:42
last
8:43
popsicle,
8:44
last
8:44
one.
8:45
And
8:45
she
8:45
goes,
8:46
okay.
8:47
And
8:47
so
8:47
I
8:47
open
8:47
up
8:48
the
8:48
last
8:48
popsicle
8:48
for
8:48
her,
8:49
she
8:49
eats
8:49
it
8:49
and
8:49
then
8:50
she
8:50
comes
8:50
back
8:50
with
8:51
a
8:51
popsicle
8:51
behind
8:51
her
8:52
back
8:52
and
8:52
she
8:52
goes,
8:52
mom,
8:54
I
8:54
ate
8:54
the
8:54
wrong
8:55
one.
8:55
I
8:55
meant
8:55
to
8:55
eat
8:56
this
8:56
one.
8:57
How
8:57
do
8:57
you
8:57
say
8:57
lunch?
8:59
You
8:59
did
9:00
loophole,
9:01
that's
9:01
for
9:01
sure.
9:02
That's
9:02
Tate.
9:02
That's
9:03
the
9:03
story
9:03
in
9:03
our
9:03
life.
9:03
Like,
9:04
how
9:04
do
9:04
you
9:04
say
9:04
no
9:05
to
9:05
that?
9:06
You
9:06
don't.
9:09
Kaya.
9:10
She's
9:10
strict.
9:11
I
9:11
like
9:11
it.
9:13
Are
9:14
there
9:14
to
9:14
be
9:14
rules?
9:15
Not
9:15
to
9:15
be
9:15
suggestions.
9:17
Really?
9:18
I'm
9:18
learning
9:18
about
9:19
you,
9:19
Kya.
9:20
Is
9:20
this
9:20
really
9:20
how
9:20
you
9:21
feel?
9:21
Do
9:21
you
9:21
like
9:22
having
9:23
parents?
9:23
Okay,
9:24
just
9:24
to
9:24
be
9:25
clear,
9:25
kaya,
9:25
you're
9:25
a
9:26
14
9:26
year
9:26
old.
9:27
Do
9:27
you
9:27
like
9:28
to
9:28
have
9:29
rules
9:29
in
9:29
the
9:30
house?
9:30
Like,
9:30
you
9:30
like
9:31
following
9:31
them?
9:32
It
9:32
depends
9:32
on
9:33
what
9:33
they
9:33
are.
9:34
There's
9:34
some
9:34
rules
9:35
that
9:35
I'm
9:35
like,
9:35
those
9:35
are
9:36
stupid.
9:36
I'm
9:36
not
9:36
following
9:37
that.
9:38
And
9:38
then
9:38
there's
9:38
other
9:39
rules
9:39
that
9:40
are
9:40
like,
9:40
oh,
9:40
yeah,
9:40
that
9:40
makes
9:41
sense.
9:41
Like,
9:42
don't
9:42
let
9:43
the
9:43
dogs
9:43
out
9:44
when
9:44
the
9:44
chickens
9:44
are
9:45
outside.
9:47
I'm
9:48
looking
9:48
at
9:48
my
9:48
brother.
9:50
That
9:50
sounds
9:51
like
9:51
a
9:51
great
9:51
time.
9:52
She's
9:53
also
9:53
a
9:53
very,
9:54
very
9:54
lenient
9:55
mom,
9:55
though.
9:55
Like,
9:56
she
9:56
doesn't
9:56
care
9:56
if
9:56
I
9:56
sneak
9:57
out
9:57
as
9:57
long
9:57
as
9:57
I
9:57
have
9:58
my
9:58
phone
9:58
on
9:58
me.
9:59
Oh.
9:59
To
10:00
be
10:00
clear,
10:00
she
10:00
has
10:00
never
10:01
done
10:01
it.
10:01
So
10:01
I
10:02
plan
10:02
on
10:02
it
10:02
when
10:02
I
10:03
have
10:03
friends
10:03
who
10:03
will
10:03
actually
10:04
do
10:04
it
10:04
with
10:04
me
10:04
and
10:05
they
10:05
aren't
10:05
boring.
10:08
She's
10:08
like,
10:08
I've
10:09
been
10:09
trying
10:09
to
10:09
plan
10:10
my.
10:11
Okay,
10:11
this
10:11
is
10:11
awesome.
10:12
We
10:13
have
10:13
a
10:13
14
10:14
year
10:14
old
10:14
here.
10:14
Who
10:15
is
10:15
like,
10:15
I'm
10:15
trying
10:16
to
10:16
plan.
10:17
My
10:17
naughty
10:18
adolescence
10:19
that's
10:19
coming
10:19
up.
10:20
It's
10:20
not
10:20
here
10:20
yet.
10:21
Oh,
10:21
no,
10:21
no,
10:21
no.
10:22
We
10:22
joke
10:22
with
10:22
her
10:23
that.
10:24
No,
10:24
my
10:24
husband
10:25
and
10:25
I.
10:25
My
10:25
husband
10:25
was
10:26
not
10:26
a
10:26
good
10:26
kid.
10:27
I
10:27
was.
10:28
I've
10:28
had
10:28
a
10:28
little
10:29
bit,
10:29
but
10:29
it
10:29
wasn't
10:29
anything
10:29
major.
10:30
I
10:30
tell
10:30
her
10:30
all
10:31
the
10:31
time
10:31
I
10:31
wouldn't
10:31
have
10:31
invited
10:31
her
10:32
to
10:32
a
10:32
party
10:32
because
10:33
they
10:33
would
10:34
be
10:34
crocheting
10:35
and
10:35
knitting
10:36
in
10:37
their
10:37
comfy
10:37
pajamas
10:38
and
10:38
like
10:39
sipping
10:39
wine
10:40
like
10:42
they
10:42
couldn't
10:42
hang
10:42
with
10:42
us.
10:44
That's
10:45
what
10:45
Kya
10:45
and
10:46
her
10:46
friends
10:46
do.
10:46
Or
10:47
that's
10:47
what
10:47
you
10:47
did
10:48
back
10:48
when
10:48
you
10:48
were.
10:49
They
10:49
would
10:49
do.
10:51
That
10:52
is
10:52
true.
10:53
That
10:53
is
10:53
a
10:54
50
10:54
year
10:54
old
10:55
woman.
10:55
I
10:55
hear
10:55
it,
10:56
I'm
10:56
here
10:56
for
10:56
it.
10:58
I
10:58
mean,
10:58
right
10:58
now
10:58
my
10:59
hair
10:59
dye
10:59
looks
10:59
gray,
11:00
so.
11:01
Which
11:01
I
11:01
love
11:01
it,
11:02
by
11:02
the
11:02
way.
11:02
Looks
11:02
like.
11:05
Oh,
11:05
we
11:06
love
11:06
it.
11:07
Sam.
11:08
Number
11:08
two.
11:09
We
11:10
decided
11:10
that
11:11
it
11:11
would
11:11
be
11:11
fun
11:12
to
11:12
have
11:12
you
11:12
on
11:12
the
11:12
podcast
11:13
because
11:13
you
11:13
have
11:14
a
11:14
really
11:14
unique
11:15
perspective
11:16
on
11:17
different
11:17
ways
11:18
to
11:18
school,
11:18
especially
11:19
when
11:20
there
11:20
is
11:21
ADHD
11:22
and
11:22
other
11:22
factors
11:23
that
11:23
make
11:23
it
11:23
really
11:24
difficult
11:24
for
11:24
our
11:25
kids
11:25
in
11:25
school.
11:26
Yeah.
11:27
So
11:28
we
11:28
did
11:29
not
11:29
start
11:29
out
11:29
that
11:29
way.
11:30
Just
11:30
so
11:30
you
11:30
know,
11:31
I'm
11:31
from
11:31
a
11:32
family
11:32
of
11:32
teachers.
11:32
I
11:33
grew
11:33
up
11:33
in
11:33
a
11:34
traditional
11:34
education
11:35
system,
11:36
went
11:36
through
11:37
school
11:38
and
11:38
then
11:39
when
11:39
my
11:40
son
11:40
was
11:40
younger,
11:42
kindergarten
11:42
actually.
11:43
He
11:43
was
11:43
about
11:43
to
11:43
get
11:43
expelled
11:44
from
11:44
kindergarten.
11:45
Oh,
11:45
wow.
11:46
From
11:47
kindergarten
11:47
you
11:47
throw
11:47
a
11:48
chair
11:48
at
11:48
a
11:48
teacher.
11:48
Yeah.
11:49
So
11:49
it's
11:49
a
11:50
three
11:50
strike
11:50
thing.
11:51
He's
11:51
got
11:51
severe
11:52
adhd.
11:52
We
11:53
did
11:53
not
11:53
know
11:53
that's
11:54
what
11:54
it
11:54
was
11:54
at
11:54
the
11:54
time.
11:56
But
11:56
yeah,
11:56
we
11:56
had
11:57
a
11:57
couple
11:57
of
11:57
incidences
11:58
where
11:58
he,
11:58
like
11:59
one
11:59
of
11:59
them,
11:59
he
11:59
threw
11:59
a
12:00
chair
12:00
or
12:01
threw
12:01
a
12:01
chair
12:01
and
12:01
broke
12:02
a
12:02
desk.
12:02
Okay.
12:02
Oh,
12:03
geez.
12:03
Another
12:03
incident
12:04
where
12:04
he
12:05
ended
12:06
up
12:06
kicking
12:06
a
12:06
teacher.
12:07
How
12:08
old
12:08
is
12:08
he
12:08
now?
12:08
So
12:09
he's
12:09
11
12:09
now.
12:09
Okay.
12:10
Okay.
12:10
So
12:10
I
12:10
mean,
12:11
yeah,
12:11
he
12:11
was
12:11
five
12:11
at
12:12
the
12:12
time,
12:12
so.
12:13
And
12:13
then
12:14
there
12:14
was
12:14
another
12:14
incident
12:15
where
12:15
they
12:15
had
12:15
to
12:15
evacuate
12:16
a
12:16
classroom
12:16
and
12:16
he
12:17
accidentally
12:18
hurt
12:18
one
12:18
of
12:18
his
12:19
friends.
12:19
And
12:19
the
12:19
thing
12:19
was
12:20
like,
12:21
as
12:21
soon
12:21
as
12:21
he
12:21
would
12:21
come
12:22
down
12:22
and
12:22
he
12:22
could
12:23
get
12:23
control
12:23
of
12:23
himself,
12:24
he
12:25
would
12:25
literally
12:25
sit
12:25
in
12:25
a
12:26
corner
12:26
and
12:26
cry.
12:26
He
12:27
felt
12:27
terrible.
12:28
And
12:28
so.
12:29
But
12:29
he
12:29
was.
12:29
It
12:29
like
12:29
his
12:30
adrenaline
12:30
was
12:31
just
12:31
going.
12:31
When
12:31
he
12:32
got
12:32
into
12:32
situation,
12:33
he
12:33
struggles
12:33
with
12:33
transitions
12:34
and
12:34
emotion
12:35
to
12:35
speculation.
12:36
And
12:36
so
12:36
that
12:36
was
12:37
a
12:37
really
12:37
big
12:37
thing.
12:38
And
12:38
so
12:38
especially
12:38
at
12:39
5,
12:39
like
12:39
they
12:39
already
12:40
struggle
12:40
with
12:40
that
12:42
on
12:42
top
12:42
of
12:42
it.
12:43
But
12:43
I
12:43
was
12:44
really,
12:44
really
12:44
thankful
12:45
to
12:45
his
12:46
kindergarten
12:46
teacher.
12:47
She
12:47
was
12:47
getting
12:48
ready
12:48
to
12:48
retire,
12:48
so
12:48
I
12:48
don't
12:49
think
12:49
she
12:49
genuinely
12:49
cared.
12:50
So
12:50
she
12:50
told
12:51
me,
12:51
she
12:51
goes,
12:52
he
12:53
is
12:53
so
12:54
incredibly
12:54
smart
12:55
and
12:56
there's
12:56
nothing
12:56
wrong
12:57
with
12:57
him
12:57
other
12:57
than
12:57
he
12:57
has
12:58
undiagnosed,
12:58
unmanaged
12:59
adhd.
13:00
She
13:00
was
13:00
a
13:00
former
13:00
special
13:00
Education
13:01
teacher.
13:02
And
13:03
she
13:03
said,
13:03
yeah,
13:04
we
13:04
got
13:04
really
13:04
lucky
13:05
with
13:05
her.
13:05
They
13:05
were
13:05
amazing.
13:06
And
13:06
so
13:06
she
13:06
looked
13:06
at
13:06
me,
13:07
and
13:07
she
13:07
goes,
13:07
if
13:07
you
13:07
could
13:07
pull
13:08
him
13:08
out
13:08
and
13:08
homeschool
13:09
him
13:09
for
13:09
a
13:09
few
13:09
years,
13:10
it
13:10
would
13:10
be
13:10
the
13:10
best
13:10
thing
13:11
you
13:11
could
13:11
ever
13:11
do.
13:12
She
13:12
goes,
13:12
he
13:13
will
13:13
get
13:13
lost
13:13
in
13:13
our
13:14
system,
13:14
and
13:14
he's
13:14
just
13:15
too
13:15
smart.
13:15
Oh,
13:16
my
13:16
God.
13:16
And
13:17
unfortunately,
13:17
that
13:17
tends
13:17
to
13:18
be
13:18
the
13:18
story
13:18
with
13:18
a
13:18
lot
13:19
of
13:19
our,
13:19
like,
13:20
ADHD
13:20
and
13:20
autistic
13:21
children.
13:22
And
13:22
just
13:23
our
13:23
children
13:23
that
13:24
are
13:24
different,
13:24
they
13:25
don't
13:25
quite
13:25
fit.
13:26
So
13:27
I
13:27
removed
13:28
him
13:28
from
13:28
school.
13:29
There
13:29
was
13:29
no
13:29
plan.
13:29
My
13:30
husband
13:30
was
13:30
on
13:30
deployment.
13:31
He
13:31
was
13:31
about
13:32
to
13:32
be
13:32
expelled.
13:34
And
13:35
so
13:35
I
13:35
just
13:35
pulled
13:36
him.
13:36
I
13:36
was
13:36
like,
13:36
I
13:36
have
13:36
no
13:36
idea
13:36
what
13:37
I'm
13:37
doing.
13:37
I
13:37
had
13:37
never
13:38
imagined
13:38
being
13:38
a
13:38
homeschool
13:39
parent.
13:39
Like,
13:40
it
13:40
was
13:40
not
13:40
even
13:41
on
13:41
my
13:41
list.
13:41
Right.
13:42
I
13:42
was
13:42
actually
13:42
working
13:43
on
13:43
my
13:43
bachelor's
13:43
at
13:43
the
13:44
time.
13:44
What
13:44
were
13:45
you
13:45
studying?
13:46
I
13:46
was
13:46
actually
13:46
studying.
13:47
Studying
13:47
psychology
13:48
with
13:48
a
13:48
minor
13:48
in
13:48
speech
13:49
pathology.
13:51
Then
13:51
two
13:51
weeks
13:51
later,
13:52
Covid
13:52
shut
13:52
everything
13:53
down.
13:53
Oh.
13:54
So,
13:54
like,
13:55
it
13:55
was
13:55
just,
13:55
like,
13:55
perfect
13:56
timing.
13:56
So
13:57
then
13:57
she
13:57
was
13:57
in
13:58
virtual
13:58
school
13:59
when
13:59
they
13:59
were
14:00
still
14:00
trying
14:00
to
14:00
figure
14:00
out
14:00
what
14:00
it
14:01
was.
14:01
And
14:01
we
14:01
were
14:01
living
14:01
in
14:01
Virginia
14:02
at
14:02
the
14:02
time.
14:03
And
14:03
so
14:04
I
14:04
watched
14:05
her
14:05
have
14:06
three
14:06
panic
14:07
attacks
14:07
over
14:07
reading.
14:08
And
14:08
one
14:09
of
14:09
the
14:09
things
14:09
I
14:09
had
14:09
just
14:09
recently
14:10
learned
14:10
was
14:10
that
14:11
the
14:12
brain
14:12
is
14:12
really
14:12
not
14:12
even
14:13
ready
14:13
to
14:13
read
14:13
till
14:14
somewhere
14:14
between
14:14
around
14:15
8,
14:15
8
14:15
years
14:15
old.
14:16
Okay.
14:16
And
14:17
anything
14:17
between
14:18
6
14:18
and
14:19
10
14:19
is
14:19
normal.
14:20
So
14:22
I
14:22
was
14:22
like,
14:23
okay,
14:23
there's.
14:24
Yeah,
14:24
so
14:24
anything
14:25
between
14:25
6
14:25
and
14:25
10
14:25
is
14:26
normal
14:26
to
14:26
read.
14:26
And
14:27
we
14:27
push
14:27
kids
14:28
too
14:29
soon
14:30
sometimes.
14:30
And
14:30
especially,
14:31
like,
14:31
if
14:31
they
14:31
have
14:31
any
14:31
type
14:32
of
14:32
neurodivergence.
14:32
80
14:33
ADHDers
14:34
are
14:34
about
14:35
30%
14:36
behind.
14:37
I
14:37
did.
14:38
I
14:38
have
14:38
been
14:38
learning
14:39
that
14:39
I
14:39
actually
14:40
have
14:40
a
14:40
handful
14:41
of
14:41
friends
14:41
whose
14:41
children
14:42
have
14:42
a
14:42
really,
14:43
really
14:43
hard
14:43
time
14:43
in
14:44
school.
14:44
They're,
14:45
you
14:45
know,
14:45
constantly
14:46
being
14:46
kicked
14:46
out
14:47
of
14:48
activities
14:49
and
14:50
not
14:50
allowed
14:50
to
14:50
attend
14:51
other
14:51
events
14:52
that
14:52
the
14:52
other
14:52
kids
14:52
are
14:53
allowed
14:53
to.
14:53
And
14:54
one
14:55
actually
14:55
got
14:57
expelled
14:57
for
14:57
a
14:57
little
14:58
bit
14:58
because
14:59
just,
14:59
again,
15:00
impulse
15:00
controls,
15:01
like,
15:01
what
15:01
you're
15:01
explaining.
15:02
And
15:03
usually
15:03
the
15:04
school
15:04
cop
15:04
can
15:04
come
15:05
in
15:05
and
15:05
just
15:05
deescalate
15:06
and
15:06
they
15:06
can
15:06
carry
15:07
on
15:07
with
15:07
their
15:07
day.
15:08
And
15:08
this
15:08
time,
15:09
he
15:10
was
15:10
able
15:10
to
15:11
pull
15:11
the
15:12
gun
15:12
out
15:12
of
15:12
the
15:12
holster.
15:13
And
15:14
he
15:15
wanted
15:15
to
15:15
kill
15:16
himself.
15:16
Shoot
15:16
himself.
15:17
He
15:18
didn't
15:18
want
15:18
to.
15:18
Like,
15:19
he
15:19
didn't
15:19
actually
15:19
want
15:20
to.
15:20
But
15:21
it's
15:21
just,
15:21
like,
15:21
when.
15:21
I
15:22
guess
15:23
I
15:23
personally
15:23
don't
15:23
have
15:23
any
15:24
experience
15:24
with
15:24
it,
15:24
but
15:24
I
15:25
guess,
15:25
like,
15:25
when
15:25
they're
15:25
in
15:25
the
15:26
motions
15:26
of
15:26
it,
15:27
they
15:27
just
15:27
can't
15:27
control
15:27
themselves.
15:28
And
15:29
so,
15:30
yeah,
15:30
there's
15:31
some
15:31
statistic
15:32
that
15:32
I've
15:32
read
15:32
Before
15:33
that,
15:33
it's
15:33
like
15:34
ADHD
15:35
kids
15:35
are
15:35
redirected
15:36
10
15:37
times
15:37
more
15:38
than
15:39
a
15:39
neurotypical
15:39
child.
15:40
And
15:41
I
15:41
mean,
15:41
there's
15:41
only
15:41
so
15:41
many
15:42
times
15:42
you
15:42
can
15:42
hear.
15:42
No,
15:43
don't
15:43
do
15:43
that.
15:43
Stop.
15:44
This
15:44
is
15:44
too
15:44
much.
15:45
Until
15:45
you
15:45
eventually
15:46
start
15:46
to
15:46
internalize
15:47
it.
15:47
And
15:48
that
15:48
was
15:48
kind
15:48
of
15:48
what
15:49
I
15:49
was
15:49
afraid,
15:49
especially
15:50
with
15:50
him.
15:51
And
15:51
we
15:51
now
15:52
know.
15:52
We
15:52
didn't
15:52
know
15:52
at
15:52
the
15:53
time.
15:53
Kaya
15:54
is
15:55
on
15:55
the
15:55
spectrum.
15:56
She's
15:56
high
15:56
functioning,
15:57
but
15:57
so
15:57
that
15:58
makes
15:58
her
15:58
brain
15:58
operate
15:59
a
15:59
little
15:59
differently.
15:59
Okay.
16:00
And
16:00
so
16:01
during
16:01
COVID
16:02
we
16:02
actually
16:03
PCs,
16:04
we
16:04
were
16:04
military,
16:05
so
16:05
we
16:05
PCs
16:06
to
16:06
Maryland.
16:07
And
16:08
what
16:08
is
16:08
PCs?
16:09
So
16:09
we
16:09
moved.
16:10
So
16:10
it's
16:10
a
16:10
military
16:10
move.
16:11
Sorry.
16:11
He
16:11
went
16:12
from.
16:12
He
16:12
was.
16:12
He
16:13
was
16:13
stationed
16:13
on
16:13
a
16:13
boat
16:14
in
16:14
Virginia
16:14
and
16:15
he
16:15
went
16:15
to
16:15
get
16:15
stationed
16:16
at
16:16
Norfolk
16:17
Academy
16:17
in
16:18
the
16:18
Naval.
16:18
Yeah.
16:18
Okay.
16:19
And
16:20
so
16:20
I'm
16:21
working.
16:21
I'm
16:21
still
16:21
working
16:21
on
16:21
my
16:22
bachelor's
16:22
degree
16:22
at
16:22
this
16:23
time.
16:23
And
16:23
we
16:24
tried
16:24
a
16:24
whole.
16:25
What
16:25
was
16:25
it?
16:25
I
16:25
think
16:25
you
16:26
guys
16:26
made
16:26
it
16:26
two
16:26
weeks
16:27
in
16:27
virtual
16:28
school.
16:28
And
16:28
I
16:28
told
16:28
my
16:28
husband,
16:29
I
16:29
was
16:29
like,
16:29
I
16:29
cannot
16:30
police
16:30
them
16:31
in
16:32
this,
16:32
in
16:32
this
16:33
setting.
16:33
This
16:33
is
16:33
not
16:33
going
16:34
to
16:34
work
16:34
for
16:34
them
16:35
and
16:35
get
16:35
my
16:36
schoolwork
16:36
done
16:37
and
16:37
still
16:38
have
16:38
my
16:38
sanity
16:39
intact.
16:39
So
16:40
you've
16:40
got
16:40
a
16:41
super
16:41
late
16:41
birthday.
16:41
Tayton's
16:42
an
16:42
April
16:42
birthday.
16:43
So
16:43
I
16:44
was
16:44
like,
16:44
you
16:44
know
16:44
what,
16:44
why
16:44
don't
16:45
we
16:45
just
16:45
pull
16:45
them
16:45
out?
16:46
Let's
16:46
do
16:46
this
16:46
full
16:46
homeschool
16:47
thing
16:47
for
16:48
a
16:48
year.
16:48
Worst
16:48
case
16:49
scenario,
16:49
we
16:49
hold
16:49
them
16:50
back
16:50
a
16:50
year.
16:50
Sure.
16:51
So
16:52
I
16:52
found
16:52
this
16:52
really
16:53
amazing
16:53
program
16:53
in
16:53
Maryland.
16:54
It
16:54
was
16:54
an
16:54
unschooling
16:55
program.
16:56
I
16:57
didn't
16:57
know
16:57
they
16:57
had
16:57
an
16:57
unschooling
16:58
program
16:58
program.
16:59
So
16:59
the
17:00
lady
17:00
that
17:00
runs
17:00
it
17:01
is
17:01
phenomenal.
17:02
Like,
17:02
she
17:02
created
17:03
this
17:03
program
17:03
for
17:03
her
17:03
own
17:04
kids.
17:04
She
17:04
was
17:05
a
17:05
former
17:05
teacher.
17:05
Wait,
17:06
who?
17:07
Amy?
17:07
Oh,
17:07
I
17:07
love
17:07
Ms.
17:08
Amy.
17:09
And
17:09
so
17:11
I
17:11
called
17:11
her
17:11
because
17:12
really,
17:12
I
17:12
was
17:12
just
17:12
looking
17:12
for
17:12
a
17:13
place
17:13
to
17:13
put
17:13
them
17:13
for
17:13
the
17:14
social
17:14
aspect
17:14
and
17:15
just
17:15
also
17:15
to,
17:16
like,
17:16
get
17:17
a
17:17
break.
17:17
Sure.
17:18
So
17:18
that
17:18
I
17:18
could
17:19
do
17:19
what
17:20
I
17:20
needed
17:20
to
17:20
do.
17:20
And
17:20
so,
17:20
like,
17:21
at
17:21
this
17:21
point,
17:21
we're
17:21
still
17:21
in
17:22
the
17:22
full,
17:22
like,
17:22
traditional
17:23
homeschool
17:24
setting.
17:24
Like,
17:25
these
17:25
are
17:25
the
17:25
curriculum.
17:26
This
17:26
is
17:26
what
17:26
you're
17:26
going
17:26
to
17:26
be
17:27
doing,
17:27
you
17:28
know,
17:28
and
17:29
it
17:29
was
17:29
awful.
17:29
That
17:30
was
17:30
awful.
17:32
And
17:32
so
17:32
we
17:32
met
17:33
Amy
17:33
and
17:33
they
17:33
started
17:33
going
17:34
and
17:34
attending
17:35
and
17:35
Amy
17:35
started
17:36
talking
17:36
to
17:36
me
17:36
about
17:36
unschooling.
17:37
So
17:37
unschooling
17:38
is
17:38
kind
17:38
of
17:38
this
17:39
model
17:39
where
17:41
we
17:41
trust
17:41
our
17:41
children
17:42
and
17:42
we
17:42
allow
17:42
them
17:43
to
17:43
kind
17:43
of
17:44
explore
17:44
things
17:44
when
17:45
they're
17:45
ready
17:45
and
17:45
when
17:46
they're
17:46
interested.
17:47
And
17:47
I
17:48
mean,
17:48
it
17:48
makes
17:48
sense
17:48
because
17:49
as
17:49
adults,
17:49
if
17:50
I'm
17:50
interested
17:50
in
17:50
something
17:51
and
17:51
I
17:51
dive
17:51
In
17:51
I'm
17:51
going
17:52
to
17:52
retain
17:52
a
17:52
lot
17:52
more
17:52
information.
17:53
Yeah,
17:53
I
17:54
think
17:54
I'm
17:54
not
17:54
interested
17:55
in.
17:55
So
17:57
she
17:57
started
17:57
recommending
17:58
all
17:58
these
17:58
different
17:58
books
17:59
and
18:00
started
18:00
reading
18:00
them.
18:01
I'm
18:01
a
18:01
big
18:01
reader,
18:02
and
18:02
I
18:02
was
18:02
also
18:03
learning
18:03
about
18:03
brain
18:03
development
18:04
because
18:04
my
18:05
bachelor's
18:05
was
18:05
psychology
18:06
with
18:06
a
18:06
minor
18:07
in
18:07
speech,
18:07
and
18:07
it
18:07
had
18:07
a
18:07
special
18:08
specialization
18:09
in
18:09
child
18:09
development.
18:10
So
18:10
I'm
18:11
learning
18:11
all
18:11
these
18:11
things
18:11
and
18:12
it's
18:12
all,
18:12
like,
18:12
connecting.
18:13
And
18:13
I'm
18:13
like,
18:13
this
18:13
makes
18:14
so
18:14
much
18:14
sense.
18:15
So,
18:15
like,
18:16
with
18:16
her,
18:16
we
18:16
pushed
18:16
reading.
18:17
She
18:17
was
18:17
struggling.
18:18
We
18:18
were
18:18
starting
18:18
to
18:18
wonder
18:19
if
18:19
she
18:19
was
18:19
dyslexic.
18:20
Okay,
18:21
just
18:21
go
18:21
ahead
18:21
and
18:22
put
18:22
that
18:22
out.
18:22
Like,
18:22
today,
18:23
this
18:23
child
18:24
is
18:24
reading
18:24
at
18:24
a
18:24
12th
18:24
grade
18:25
level.
18:25
Like,
18:26
she
18:26
loves
18:26
to
18:26
read.
18:28
You
18:28
love
18:28
reading.
18:28
And
18:28
I
18:29
remember
18:29
a
18:29
time
18:29
where
18:29
I
18:30
literally
18:30
asked
18:30
him
18:30
to
18:31
pick
18:31
up
18:31
a
18:31
book.
18:31
She
18:31
would
18:31
have
18:31
cried.
18:33
So.
18:34
Because
18:34
she
18:34
was
18:34
feeling.
18:35
You
18:35
tell.
18:35
Tell
18:36
us
18:36
why.
18:36
Tell
18:36
us.
18:37
What
18:37
were
18:37
you
18:37
feeling?
18:38
Basically,
18:39
it
18:39
got
18:39
really
18:40
stressful
18:40
because
18:40
I
18:41
couldn't
18:41
read
18:42
and
18:42
I
18:42
kept
18:42
flipping
18:43
the
18:43
letters
18:44
because
18:44
no
18:44
one
18:44
taught
18:44
me
18:45
any
18:45
of
18:45
the
18:45
tricks
18:46
to
18:46
understand
18:47
the
18:47
letters.
18:48
They
18:48
just
18:48
taught
18:48
me
18:49
words.
18:52
You
18:52
were
18:52
supposed
18:52
to
18:52
know
18:53
how
18:53
to
18:53
put
18:53
them
18:53
together
18:54
because
18:54
of
18:54
your
18:54
parents.
18:55
And
18:56
all
18:56
they
18:56
did
18:56
was
18:56
teach
18:57
us.
18:57
Cypress.
18:57
There
18:57
was
18:57
no
18:58
correctly
18:58
sounding
18:59
out.
19:00
I
19:00
learned
19:00
that
19:01
on
19:01
my
19:01
own
19:02
time
19:02
with
19:02
a
19:03
reading
19:03
tutor.
19:03
And
19:04
now
19:04
I
19:04
have
19:04
read
19:04
every
19:05
single
19:05
Rick
19:05
Riordan
19:06
book
19:06
he
19:06
has
19:06
released.
19:06
And
19:06
they're
19:07
perfect.
19:10
I
19:10
remember
19:10
because.
19:11
So
19:11
I
19:11
went
19:11
to
19:12
school.
19:12
I
19:12
was
19:13
going
19:13
to
19:13
be
19:13
a
19:13
teacher.
19:13
I
19:13
wanted
19:13
to
19:14
be
19:14
a
19:14
school
19:14
counselor
19:14
when
19:15
I
19:15
was.
19:16
I.
19:16
I
19:16
like
19:17
a
19:17
psychology.
19:17
Like,
19:17
you
19:18
know,
19:18
I
19:18
mean.
19:18
But
19:19
in
19:19
Texas,
19:20
you
19:20
have
19:20
to
19:20
be
19:20
a
19:20
teacher
19:20
for
19:21
three
19:21
years
19:21
first.
19:21
So
19:22
I
19:22
went
19:22
through
19:22
the
19:23
program.
19:23
I
19:23
did
19:23
my
19:24
practicums
19:24
and
19:24
everything.
19:25
I
19:25
actually,
19:26
just
19:27
because
19:27
of
19:27
life,
19:27
I
19:28
ended
19:28
up
19:28
dropping
19:28
out
19:28
in
19:29
the
19:29
very
19:29
last
19:29
semester
19:30
before
19:30
I
19:30
got
19:30
my
19:30
bachelor's.
19:32
But
19:32
that
19:33
was
19:33
one
19:33
of
19:33
the
19:33
things
19:33
that
19:33
I
19:34
got
19:34
to
19:34
do
19:34
was
19:34
go
19:35
in
19:35
and
19:35
work
19:35
with
19:36
kids
19:36
and
19:36
help
19:36
them
19:37
read
19:37
and
19:37
like,
19:38
learning.
19:38
And
19:38
it.
19:39
You're
19:39
right.
19:39
That's
19:40
exactly
19:40
what
19:40
it
19:41
is.
19:41
Like
19:41
you.
19:42
They
19:42
expect
19:42
kids
19:43
to
19:43
just
19:43
learn
19:43
sight
19:44
words.
19:44
Yeah.
19:45
And
19:45
nothing
19:45
against
19:45
teachers.
19:46
I'm
19:46
from
19:46
a
19:46
family
19:46
of
19:47
teachers,
19:47
and
19:47
I
19:48
know
19:48
how
19:48
hard
19:48
they
19:48
work.
19:49
But
19:50
the
19:50
reason
19:50
we
19:50
really
19:51
push
19:51
early
19:51
literacy
19:52
is
19:53
because
19:53
it
19:53
makes
19:53
it
19:53
easier
19:54
on
19:54
the
19:54
teacher
19:55
because
19:55
the
19:56
kids
19:56
can
19:56
read.
19:57
We
19:57
got
19:57
her.
19:57
And
19:58
it
19:58
was
19:58
so
19:58
interesting
19:58
because
19:58
we
19:59
met
19:59
this
19:59
amazing
19:59
reading
20:00
tutor
20:00
when
20:00
we
20:00
were
20:00
in
20:00
Maryland,
20:01
and
20:01
it's
20:01
who
20:01
I
20:02
got
20:02
for
20:02
her.
20:03
And
20:03
she
20:03
specialized
20:04
in
20:04
dyslexia.
20:04
So
20:05
I
20:05
was
20:05
worried
20:05
that
20:06
maybe
20:06
she
20:06
was
20:07
dyslexic.
20:07
Turns
20:08
out
20:08
neurodivergent
20:09
brains
20:10
don't
20:10
actually
20:11
Learn
20:11
to
20:11
read
20:11
in
20:11
the
20:12
same
20:12
way.
20:12
Okay.
20:13
And
20:14
so
20:15
we,
20:15
that's
20:16
what
20:16
we
20:16
learn.
20:16
Like
20:16
ADHD
20:17
brains,
20:17
autistic
20:18
brains,
20:19
sometimes
20:19
they
20:19
need
20:19
less
20:20
steps.
20:20
And
20:20
it's
20:21
a
20:21
lot
20:21
easier
20:21
to
20:22
say
20:23
this.
20:24
Most
20:25
what
20:25
school
20:25
teaches
20:26
is
20:26
a.
20:26
This
20:26
is
20:26
the
20:27
letter
20:27
A.
20:27
And
20:27
A
20:27
says
20:28
ah,
20:28
yeah.
20:29
What
20:29
her
20:29
tutor
20:30
taught
20:30
her
20:30
was
20:30
this
20:30
is
20:31
a
20:31
picture
20:31
of
20:31
the
20:31
sound.
20:31
Ah,
20:32
yeah.
20:33
So
20:33
they
20:33
took
20:33
a
20:33
step.
20:35
So
20:35
it
20:35
made
20:35
a
20:35
lot
20:36
of
20:36
difference.
20:36
And
20:36
so
20:37
we
20:37
did
20:37
the
20:37
first
20:38
year.
20:39
My
20:39
husband's
20:39
still
20:39
not
20:40
on
20:40
board,
20:40
like
20:40
at
20:40
this
20:40
point.
20:41
Like
20:41
my
20:41
husband
20:41
thought
20:41
it
20:41
was
20:41
nuts
20:42
and.
20:43
But
20:43
the
20:43
unschooling,
20:44
the
20:44
unschooling,
20:45
like
20:45
the
20:45
whole
20:45
approach.
20:46
Because
20:46
it
20:46
also
20:46
changed
20:46
my
20:47
parenting
20:47
style.
20:47
Okay,
20:48
how.
20:49
And
20:49
when
20:49
you
20:50
said
20:50
you
20:51
stumbled
20:51
across
20:52
the
20:52
unschooling
20:53
in
20:53
that
20:53
they
20:54
enrolled.
20:54
So
20:54
are
20:54
they
20:55
going
20:55
to
20:55
someone
20:55
else
20:56
that's
20:56
doing
20:56
the
20:57
unschooling
20:57
for
20:57
them
20:58
or
20:58
is
20:58
this
20:58
something
20:58
that
20:59
you've
20:59
learned
20:59
and
20:59
you're
21:00
doing
21:00
for
21:01
them
21:01
yourself?
21:02
So
21:03
it
21:03
was
21:03
kind
21:03
of
21:04
a
21:04
combination
21:04
of
21:04
both.
21:05
So
21:05
the
21:05
unspilling
21:06
group
21:06
was
21:06
more
21:06
of
21:07
like
21:07
a
21:07
social
21:07
thing.
21:07
They
21:08
would.
21:08
And
21:08
the
21:08
way
21:08
it
21:09
is
21:09
is
21:09
like,
21:10
we're
21:10
not
21:10
teachers,
21:10
we're
21:11
facilitators.
21:12
So
21:12
we
21:12
facilitate
21:13
an
21:13
opportunity
21:14
and
21:14
it's
21:14
up
21:15
to
21:15
them
21:15
if
21:15
they
21:15
choose
21:15
to
21:16
take
21:16
the
21:16
opportunity.
21:16
So
21:17
that's
21:17
what
21:17
the
21:17
program
21:17
was.
21:18
It
21:18
was
21:18
really
21:18
a
21:18
social
21:18
gathering
21:19
so
21:19
they
21:19
could
21:19
meet
21:20
their
21:20
friends
21:20
and
21:20
hang
21:20
out
21:21
and
21:21
then
21:21
there
21:21
would
21:21
be
21:21
classes
21:22
and
21:22
the
21:22
kids
21:22
could
21:23
choose
21:23
if
21:24
they
21:24
wanted
21:24
to
21:24
do
21:24
the
21:24
class
21:25
or
21:25
not.
21:26
So
21:28
after
21:28
the
21:28
first
21:29
semester,
21:29
I
21:29
was
21:29
like,
21:29
you
21:29
know
21:29
what?
21:30
I'm
21:30
going
21:30
to
21:30
try
21:30
this
21:30
whole
21:30
unschooling
21:31
thing
21:31
out.
21:31
I'm
21:31
hating
21:32
this
21:32
teaching
21:32
curriculum
21:33
again.
21:33
Worst
21:34
case
21:34
scenario,
21:34
I'll
21:34
hold
21:34
them
21:35
back
21:35
a
21:35
year.
21:35
Because
21:36
they're,
21:36
they
21:37
were
21:37
just,
21:37
they
21:37
were
21:37
both
21:38
young
21:38
for
21:38
their
21:38
age.
21:38
So
21:38
I
21:38
was
21:39
like,
21:39
worst
21:39
case
21:39
scenario,
21:39
I'll
21:39
hold
21:39
them
21:39
back
21:40
here.
21:41
By
21:41
the
21:41
end
21:41
of
21:41
the
21:41
year,
21:42
we
21:42
did
21:42
a
21:42
standardized
21:43
test
21:44
and
21:44
they
21:44
were
21:44
both
21:45
at
21:45
or
21:45
above
21:45
grade
21:46
level
21:46
in
21:46
everything.
21:47
And
21:47
we
21:47
had
21:48
not
21:48
touched
21:48
a
21:48
curriculum
21:49
at
21:50
this
21:50
point
21:50
in
21:50
like
21:50
six
21:50
months.
21:51
Wow.
21:51
So
21:52
I
21:52
was
21:52
like,
21:52
well,
21:53
maybe
21:53
there
21:53
is
21:53
something
21:53
to
21:54
this.
21:54
And
21:54
so
21:54
then
21:55
I
21:55
started
21:56
seeing
21:56
her.
21:56
She
21:56
was
21:56
starting
21:57
to
21:57
read
21:57
and
21:57
she
21:57
was
21:58
starting
21:58
to
21:59
find
21:59
her
21:59
own
21:59
interests
22:00
and
22:00
she
22:01
was
22:01
deep
22:01
diving
22:02
into
22:02
things
22:02
like
22:02
that.
22:03
And
22:03
it
22:04
was
22:04
so
22:04
cool.
22:05
And
22:05
then
22:05
my
22:05
son,
22:06
we
22:07
never
22:07
picked
22:07
up
22:07
a
22:07
curriculum.
22:08
Now
22:08
I
22:08
will
22:09
preface
22:09
that
22:09
with,
22:09
he's
22:10
the
22:10
type
22:10
of
22:10
kid
22:10
we
22:10
have
22:11
learned
22:11
he
22:12
does
22:12
not
22:12
do
22:12
anything
22:12
until
22:13
he
22:13
is
22:13
ready.
22:14
And
22:14
then
22:14
when
22:14
he
22:14
does
22:15
it,
22:15
like,
22:15
you
22:15
never
22:15
know.
22:15
He
22:16
was
22:16
late.
22:17
So
22:17
he
22:17
did
22:17
that
22:17
with
22:17
walking,
22:18
talking.
22:18
Everything
22:19
okay,
22:19
I'm
22:19
still
22:19
better.
22:22
He
22:22
so
22:23
she
22:23
was
22:23
early
22:23
with
22:23
everything,
22:24
so
22:24
she
22:24
kind
22:24
of
22:24
set
22:24
a
22:25
bar
22:25
high.
22:25
So
22:25
I
22:25
had
22:26
to,
22:26
like,
22:26
readjust
22:26
my
22:26
expectations
22:27
with
22:27
him.
22:27
Yeah.
22:28
So
22:28
he
22:28
did
22:29
not
22:29
learn
22:29
to
22:29
read
22:30
till
22:30
he
22:30
was
22:31
about
22:31
nine
22:31
and
22:31
a
22:31
half.
22:32
And
22:32
I'll
22:32
never
22:33
forget,
22:33
we
22:33
were
22:33
sitting
22:33
in
22:34
the
22:34
bedroom
22:35
and
22:36
he
22:36
just
22:36
starts
22:36
reading.
22:38
And
22:38
I
22:38
was
22:38
like,
22:39
you
22:39
can
22:39
read.
22:40
And
22:40
the
22:41
re.
22:41
The
22:41
way
22:41
we
22:41
had
22:41
done
22:41
that,
22:42
I
22:42
had
22:42
followed,
22:42
like,
22:42
all
22:43
the
22:43
unschoolers.
22:43
They
22:43
had
22:44
told
22:44
me,
22:44
like,
22:44
he
22:45
wanted
22:45
to
22:45
chat
22:45
with
22:45
his
22:45
friends
22:46
on,
22:46
like,
22:46
Minecraft
22:47
and
22:47
things
22:47
like
22:48
that.
22:48
So
22:49
I
22:49
had
22:49
set
22:49
him
22:49
up
22:49
with
22:49
an
22:50
old
22:50
phone
22:50
that
22:50
had
22:50
voice
22:51
chat.
22:51
So
22:51
he
22:51
would
22:51
speak
22:52
into
22:52
the
22:52
phone
22:53
what
22:53
he
22:54
wanted
22:54
to
22:54
say,
22:55
it
22:55
would
22:55
type
22:55
it
22:56
up
22:56
for
22:56
him,
22:56
and
22:56
then
22:56
he
22:57
would
22:57
type
22:57
it
22:57
in.
22:57
And
22:58
that
22:58
is
22:58
how
22:58
he
22:58
learned
22:58
to
22:59
read.
22:59
Oh,
22:59
wow.
23:00
So.
23:03
Basically
23:03
he
23:04
learned
23:04
because
23:04
he
23:05
wanted
23:05
to
23:06
and
23:06
he
23:06
needed
23:06
to,
23:06
and
23:07
it
23:07
was
23:07
quick.
23:07
Yeah.
23:08
And
23:08
it
23:08
was
23:08
with
23:08
him.
23:08
Potty
23:09
training
23:09
was
23:09
the
23:09
same
23:09
way,
23:10
actually,
23:10
because,
23:10
like,
23:10
we
23:11
tried
23:11
for
23:11
years.
23:11
We
23:12
tried
23:12
for
23:12
a
23:12
couple
23:12
of
23:12
years,
23:12
and
23:13
I
23:13
finally
23:13
gave
23:13
up.
23:14
And
23:14
then
23:14
my
23:14
husband
23:14
was
23:14
on
23:14
a
23:15
deployment
23:15
and
23:15
he
23:15
woke
23:15
up
23:15
on
23:15
a
23:16
Tuesday
23:16
morning
23:16
and
23:16
yelled,
23:16
I
23:16
have
23:17
to
23:17
pee.
23:18
That's.
23:19
That's
23:19
that
23:19
kid.
23:19
I
23:20
still
23:20
remember
23:20
that.
23:21
Like,
23:21
that
23:22
was
23:22
him.
23:22
Like,
23:22
the
23:23
door
23:23
open,
23:23
you
23:24
know,
23:24
I
23:24
started
23:24
seeing,
23:25
like.
23:26
And
23:26
it
23:26
takes
23:26
time.
23:26
Like,
23:26
you
23:27
have
23:27
to
23:27
learn.
23:27
But
23:27
unschooling
23:28
is
23:28
about
23:28
learning
23:28
to
23:29
trust
23:29
your
23:29
kid.
23:29
Okay.
23:30
And
23:30
it's
23:30
totally
23:31
opposite
23:31
of
23:31
what
23:31
we're
23:32
told.
23:32
Like,
23:32
kids
23:32
can't
23:32
be
23:33
trusted.
23:33
Yeah.
23:34
And
23:34
so
23:35
it's
23:36
about
23:36
learning
23:36
to
23:36
trust
23:36
your
23:37
children
23:37
and
23:37
that
23:38
they
23:38
want
23:39
what's
23:39
best
23:39
for
23:39
themselves
23:40
and,
23:40
like,
23:41
intuitively,
23:42
like,
23:43
they
23:43
know.
23:43
I
23:43
mean,
23:43
it
23:43
doesn't
23:44
mean
23:44
I
23:44
don't
23:44
guide
23:44
them,
23:44
and
23:44
it
23:44
doesn't
23:45
mean
23:45
I
23:45
don't
23:45
push
23:45
them.
23:46
Tayton
23:47
recently
23:47
got
23:47
diagnosed
23:48
with
23:48
a
23:49
reading
23:49
and
23:49
writing
23:50
disability
23:50
connected
23:50
to
23:50
his
23:51
adhd.
23:51
Okay.
23:52
So
23:52
we
23:52
now
23:52
have
23:52
a
23:52
tutor
23:52
for
23:53
him.
23:53
Okay.
23:53
So
23:54
she
23:55
is
23:55
using
23:55
something.
23:56
He's
23:56
got
23:56
some,
23:56
like,
23:56
short
23:57
term
23:57
memory
23:57
issues
23:58
connected
23:58
to
23:59
his
23:59
adhd.
23:59
So
23:59
they're
24:00
going
24:00
back
24:00
now
24:01
and
24:01
they're
24:01
filling
24:02
some
24:02
of
24:02
those
24:02
holes
24:03
and
24:03
she's
24:04
like,
24:04
helping
24:05
expand
24:05
in.
24:06
But
24:06
his
24:06
math
24:07
skills,
24:07
I
24:07
mean,
24:07
he
24:07
said
24:08
he's
24:08
about
24:08
to
24:08
be
24:08
a
24:08
6th
24:08
grader.
24:09
His
24:09
math
24:09
school
24:09
skills
24:10
are
24:10
8th
24:11
grade
24:11
level
24:11
because
24:13
he
24:13
loves
24:14
math.
24:14
And
24:15
so
24:16
we
24:16
open
24:16
the
24:16
right
24:17
doors
24:17
and.
24:18
But,
24:18
like,
24:18
what
24:18
does
24:18
that
24:19
look
24:19
like?
24:19
Because.
24:21
So
24:21
I
24:21
think
24:21
that's
24:22
like
24:22
a
24:22
big
24:22
question
24:22
about
24:23
unschooling
24:23
is.
24:24
So
24:24
you
24:24
hear
24:25
that
24:27
the
24:27
kids
24:27
are
24:27
guiding
24:28
what
24:28
they
24:28
want
24:28
to
24:28
learn
24:28
and
24:28
how
24:29
they
24:29
learn
24:29
it.
24:30
But
24:30
of
24:30
course,
24:30
they
24:31
need
24:31
to
24:31
know
24:31
basic
24:32
math
24:32
and
24:32
stuff.
24:32
So
24:33
what
24:33
is
24:33
it
24:33
that
24:33
they
24:34
bring
24:34
to
24:34
you
24:34
and
24:35
is
24:35
like,
24:35
oh,
24:35
teach
24:36
me
24:36
math.
24:36
That
24:37
would
24:37
help
24:37
them
24:38
elevate
24:38
to
24:38
above
24:39
grade
24:39
level.
24:40
Yeah.
24:41
So
24:41
unschooling
24:42
does
24:42
not
24:42
mean
24:43
the
24:43
absence
24:44
of
24:44
schools
24:45
or
24:46
curriculum
24:46
or
24:47
classes.
24:48
It
24:48
just
24:49
simply
24:49
means
24:49
that
24:49
we
24:50
kind
24:50
of
24:50
follow
24:50
them
24:50
and
24:51
when
24:51
they're
24:51
ready.
24:51
I
24:52
mean,
24:52
Tayton,
24:52
he's
24:52
been
24:53
working
24:53
with
24:53
math
24:54
workbooks
24:54
for
24:54
a
24:54
long
24:54
time.
24:55
He's
24:55
really
24:55
into
24:55
engineering,
24:56
so
24:56
he
24:56
does
24:56
a
24:56
lot
24:57
of
24:57
engineer
24:58
stuff
24:58
that
24:58
requires
24:59
higher
25:00
level
25:00
math.
25:01
So
25:01
him
25:01
and
25:01
my
25:01
husband,
25:02
they
25:02
work
25:03
together
25:03
and
25:03
like,
25:04
he
25:04
shows
25:04
him
25:04
in
25:04
real
25:05
time
25:05
how
25:05
he's
25:05
going
25:06
to
25:06
use
25:06
it
25:06
and.
25:07
Can
25:07
I.
25:08
I
25:08
just
25:08
want
25:08
to
25:09
interject
25:09
one
25:09
thing.
25:10
One
25:10
of
25:10
my
25:10
best
25:11
friends
25:11
did
25:11
unschooling
25:12
for
25:12
years
25:13
and
25:13
this
25:13
was
25:13
like,
25:14
before
25:14
it
25:14
was
25:14
cool.
25:16
I'm
25:16
not
25:16
saying
25:17
I
25:17
don't
25:17
know,
25:17
but
25:18
it
25:18
was
25:18
about
25:18
20
25:18
years
25:19
ago.
25:19
It
25:19
was
25:19
no,
25:20
maybe
25:20
15.
25:20
But
25:21
anyway,
25:21
I
25:22
think,
25:22
because
25:23
if
25:23
you're
25:23
doing
25:23
it
25:24
correctly,
25:24
I.
25:24
Watching
25:25
her,
25:25
it
25:25
was
25:26
more
25:26
work
25:27
than
25:28
any
25:28
parent
25:28
I
25:29
ever
25:29
saw.
25:29
Like,
25:30
it
25:30
was
25:31
amazing
25:31
watching
25:31
her.
25:31
Like,
25:32
if,
25:32
if
25:32
her
25:32
son
25:33
came
25:33
to
25:33
her
25:34
and
25:34
was
25:35
just
25:35
like,
25:35
hey,
25:36
how
25:37
does,
25:38
how
25:38
does
25:39
the
25:39
engine
25:39
in
25:39
the
25:39
car
25:40
work?
25:40
Like,
25:40
I
25:41
don't
25:41
understand.
25:41
Like,
25:42
she
25:42
would
25:42
have,
25:42
like,
25:43
she
25:43
would
25:43
delve
25:44
into
25:44
it.
25:44
Like,
25:44
it
25:45
became
25:45
a
25:45
thing.
25:45
It's
25:46
like
25:46
she
25:47
got
25:47
really
25:47
good
25:47
at
25:48
just
25:48
listening
25:48
to
25:49
them
25:49
and
25:50
then
25:50
trying
25:50
to
25:51
like
25:51
go
25:51
and
25:51
find
25:51
the
25:52
right
25:53
doors
25:53
to
25:54
open
25:54
for
25:54
him,
25:54
which
25:55
I
25:55
thought
25:56
was.
25:56
It
25:57
was
25:57
hard
25:57
work
25:57
watching
25:57
it
25:58
from
25:58
the
25:58
outside.
25:59
And
25:59
it's
25:59
so
26:00
hard
26:00
as
26:00
a
26:00
parent
26:00
because
26:00
like,
26:01
you
26:01
want
26:01
to
26:01
be
26:01
like,
26:01
this
26:01
is
26:01
how
26:02
you
26:02
do
26:02
it.
26:02
But
26:03
the
26:03
philosophy
26:04
is
26:04
a
26:04
lot
26:04
of
26:04
like.
26:05
And
26:05
it
26:05
works.
26:05
Like,
26:06
I'm
26:06
going
26:07
to
26:07
show
26:07
you
26:07
a
26:07
little
26:07
bit,
26:08
but
26:08
I
26:08
also
26:08
want
26:09
you
26:09
to
26:09
mess
26:09
up
26:09
and
26:10
fail
26:10
forward
26:10
like
26:10
you
26:10
guys
26:11
were
26:11
talking
26:11
about
26:11
in
26:11
the
26:11
beginning.
26:12
Like,
26:12
I
26:12
want
26:12
you
26:12
to
26:13
learn
26:13
how
26:13
not
26:13
to
26:14
do
26:14
things
26:14
really
26:15
obviously
26:15
within
26:16
a
26:16
safety
26:16
realm.
26:18
You
26:18
know,
26:18
I'm
26:18
not
26:18
going
26:18
to
26:19
let
26:19
him
26:19
learn
26:20
how
26:20
electricity
26:21
works
26:21
like
26:22
electrocute.
26:22
By
26:23
putting
26:23
a
26:23
waffle
26:23
in
26:23
the
26:23
socket.
26:24
Yes,
26:24
exactly.
26:25
I
26:25
mean,
26:26
that's
26:26
a
26:26
lot
26:26
of
26:26
what
26:26
it
26:26
is.
26:26
It's
26:27
allowing
26:28
them.
26:28
You're
26:29
still
26:29
facilitating
26:29
the
26:29
interest.
26:31
And
26:31
a
26:31
prime
26:31
example.
26:32
And
26:32
then
26:32
I'll
26:33
gonna
26:33
let
26:33
her
26:33
tell
26:33
you
26:34
a
26:34
little
26:34
bit
26:34
about
26:34
it
26:34
is
26:35
history.
26:35
I
26:36
love
26:36
history.
26:37
History
26:37
is
26:38
incredible.
26:38
And
26:39
I
26:39
will
26:39
never
26:39
forget
26:39
when
26:40
she
26:40
was
26:40
in
26:40
public
26:40
school,
26:41
it
26:41
was
26:41
subject
26:42
she
26:42
hated
26:42
the
26:42
most.
26:43
Absolutely
26:44
hated
26:44
the
26:44
way
26:44
they
26:45
taught
26:45
it.
26:46
And
26:46
I
26:46
kept
26:46
trying
26:47
to
26:47
explain
26:47
to
26:47
her,
26:47
like,
26:47
history
26:48
isn't
26:48
all
26:48
about
26:49
dates.
26:49
It's
26:49
about
26:50
philosophy
26:51
and
26:51
ethics
26:52
and
26:52
morality.
26:53
And,
26:54
you
26:54
know,
26:54
it's
26:55
learning
26:55
from
26:56
your
26:56
past.
26:56
And
26:57
so
26:58
I
26:58
never
26:58
pushed
26:59
it
26:59
with
26:59
Her.
26:59
And
26:59
then
27:00
was
27:00
it
27:00
about
27:01
two
27:01
years
27:01
ago
27:01
she
27:01
found
27:01
the
27:02
Rick
27:02
Riordan
27:02
books
27:03
and
27:03
now
27:03
she
27:04
has.
27:04
She
27:04
has
27:05
developed
27:05
her
27:05
own
27:06
interest
27:06
in
27:06
history.
27:07
Okay,
27:07
so.
27:07
Okay,
27:07
tell
27:08
me
27:08
more
27:08
about
27:08
the
27:08
Rick
27:08
Riordan
27:09
books
27:09
because
27:09
it's
27:09
the
27:09
second
27:10
time
27:10
that
27:10
you
27:10
mentioned
27:11
them.
27:11
Okay,
27:12
so
27:12
they
27:12
are
27:12
hyper
27:13
fixation.
27:14
I
27:14
have.
27:15
So
27:15
I
27:15
have
27:16
an
27:16
entire
27:16
Pinterest
27:17
fan
27:17
art
27:17
board
27:18
with
27:18
over
27:19
500
27:19
pins.
27:20
And
27:21
it
27:22
starts
27:22
off
27:22
with
27:23
the
27:23
Percy
27:23
Jackson
27:24
series.
27:24
Oh,
27:24
that
27:24
feels
27:25
like
27:25
everyone's
27:25
heard
27:26
of.
27:26
Yes,
27:26
thank
27:26
you.
27:26
It's
27:27
mythology.
27:28
And
27:28
then
27:28
he
27:29
incorporate.
27:29
Incorporates
27:30
it
27:30
into
27:32
like
27:33
the
27:33
modern
27:33
times
27:33
as
27:34
the.
27:34
At
27:34
the
27:34
time
27:34
he's
27:34
writing
27:35
the
27:35
book.
27:35
And
27:36
if
27:36
I
27:36
had
27:37
found
27:37
these
27:38
when
27:38
I
27:38
was
27:38
younger
27:39
or
27:39
I
27:39
read
27:39
them
27:39
in.
27:40
In
27:40
the
27:41
Times
27:41
they
27:41
were.
27:41
I
27:41
was
27:42
supposed
27:42
to.
27:42
Which
27:42
was
27:42
once
27:43
a
27:43
year.
27:43
Well,
27:43
we
27:44
don't
27:44
want
27:44
to
27:44
suppose
27:44
to
27:45
on
27:45
yourself.
27:46
I
27:46
would
27:46
have
27:47
grown
27:47
up
27:47
with
27:47
the
27:47
characters.
27:48
Okay.
27:49
But
27:50
basically,
27:51
in
27:51
the
27:51
first
27:52
book,
27:53
big
27:53
bombshell.
27:55
Ha.
27:55
Surprise.
27:57
The
27:58
main
27:58
character
27:58
is
27:58
ADHD
27:59
and
27:59
dyslexic
27:59
because
28:01
the
28:01
book
28:02
answer
28:03
is
28:03
their
28:03
brains
28:04
were
28:04
made
28:04
for
28:05
war
28:05
and.
28:07
And
28:08
ancient
28:08
Greek
28:09
because
28:10
they're
28:10
demigods,
28:11
technically
28:11
speaking.
28:12
And
28:12
I
28:12
feel
28:13
like
28:13
if
28:13
I
28:13
had
28:13
grown
28:13
up
28:14
with
28:14
the
28:14
books,
28:14
it
28:14
would
28:15
have
28:15
made
28:15
me
28:15
feel
28:15
a
28:16
little
28:16
bit
28:16
less
28:17
weird
28:17
for
28:18
not
28:18
knowing
28:18
how
28:18
to
28:19
read
28:19
properly
28:19
and
28:19
I
28:20
would
28:20
have
28:20
felt
28:20
more
28:20
understood.
28:22
And
28:22
also
28:23
then
28:23
you
28:23
start
28:24
delving
28:24
into
28:24
different
28:24
types
28:25
of
28:25
mythology.
28:25
He's
28:26
got
28:27
the
28:27
Kane
28:27
Chronicles,
28:28
which
28:28
is
28:28
Egyptian
28:29
mythology.
28:29
Oh,
28:30
wow.
28:30
Magnus
28:30
Chase,
28:31
which
28:31
is
28:31
Norse
28:32
mythology.
28:32
And
28:33
then
28:33
you've
28:33
got
28:34
one
28:34
off
28:35
books
28:35
with
28:35
the
28:35
different
28:36
characters.
28:36
And
28:37
they're
28:37
very
28:37
interesting
28:38
because
28:39
what
28:40
it
28:40
does
28:40
is,
28:40
for
28:41
me,
28:41
it
28:42
triggered
28:42
an
28:42
interest
28:43
in
28:43
mythology
28:44
and
28:44
now
28:44
I
28:44
know
28:45
way
28:45
too
28:45
much.
28:46
So
28:46
just
28:47
to
28:48
be
28:48
clear,
28:49
these
28:49
are
28:50
books
28:51
with
28:51
characters
28:52
in
28:52
it
28:52
and
28:53
the
28:53
storyline
28:54
is
28:54
based
28:54
off
28:55
of
28:55
the
28:55
actual,
28:57
you
28:58
know,
28:58
the
28:58
actual
28:58
stories.
28:59
And
28:59
that's
28:59
how
28:59
you're
29:00
learning.
29:01
It
29:01
takes
29:02
some
29:02
creative
29:02
liberties.
29:03
I
29:03
will
29:03
say
29:03
that
29:04
it's
29:04
not
29:04
entirely
29:05
accurate,
29:06
especially
29:07
with
29:07
Calypso
29:08
in
29:08
that
29:08
one.
29:08
Book,
29:09
but
29:10
does
29:10
that
29:10
make
29:10
you
29:10
kind
29:11
of
29:11
want
29:11
to
29:11
go
29:11
and
29:11
be
29:12
what
29:12
was
29:12
real,
29:13
what
29:13
were.
29:13
What
29:14
was
29:14
it
29:14
does.
29:15
And
29:15
she
29:16
had
29:16
to
29:16
tell
29:16
me
29:17
to
29:17
stop
29:17
talking
29:17
about
29:18
it
29:18
because
29:18
I
29:18
was
29:19
talking
29:19
about
29:19
it
29:20
so
29:21
much.
29:21
But
29:21
I
29:22
read
29:22
all
29:22
five
29:23
Percy
29:23
Jackson.
29:24
Well,
29:24
I
29:24
listened
29:24
to
29:24
all
29:25
five
29:25
Percy
29:25
Jackson
29:25
books
29:26
audible
29:26
in
29:27
about
29:27
a
29:27
week.
29:27
Oh,
29:28
wow.
29:28
They're
29:28
all
29:29
10
29:29
hours
29:29
a
29:29
piece.
29:30
That's
29:31
amazing.
29:32
That
29:33
is
29:33
a
29:33
hyper
29:33
fixation.
29:34
I
29:34
understand
29:35
because
29:35
I'm
29:35
also.
29:37
I
29:38
mean,
29:38
and
29:38
that's
29:38
another
29:38
benefit
29:39
too,
29:39
like,
29:39
of
29:40
unschooling
29:40
is
29:41
that
29:41
they
29:41
learn
29:42
to
29:43
go
29:43
and
29:43
find
29:43
the
29:44
information
29:44
of
29:44
the
29:44
things
29:44
they're
29:45
interested
29:45
in.
29:45
And
29:46
so
29:46
that's
29:46
what
29:46
it
29:46
did,
29:46
it
29:47
led
29:47
to
29:47
this
29:47
deep
29:47
dive
29:48
in
29:48
Greek
29:49
mythology
29:49
and
29:49
Roman
29:50
mythology
29:50
and
29:50
Nordic
29:51
Norse
29:51
myth,
29:52
Norse
29:52
mythology
29:54
and
29:55
Egyptian
29:55
mythology.
29:56
And
29:56
then
29:56
it
29:57
turned
29:57
into,
29:58
like
29:58
a
29:58
deep
29:58
dive
29:58
in
29:59
European
29:59
geography.
30:01
Really.
30:02
It
30:02
started
30:02
with,
30:02
I
30:02
wanted
30:03
to
30:03
know
30:03
the
30:03
history
30:04
behind,
30:04
like,
30:05
the
30:05
evolution
30:05
of
30:06
the
30:06
mythology.
30:06
Because
30:06
if
30:07
you
30:07
go
30:07
way
30:07
back,
30:07
Dionysus
30:08
was
30:08
not
30:09
a
30:09
freaking
30:09
frat
30:09
boy.
30:10
He
30:10
was,
30:11
I'm
30:11
gonna
30:11
murder
30:12
you
30:12
if.
30:12
You
30:12
do
30:12
the
30:13
wrong
30:13
thing.
30:14
Watching
30:15
Hercules
30:15
with
30:15
her
30:15
is
30:16
torture.
30:17
You
30:17
never
30:17
want
30:17
to
30:17
do
30:18
it.
30:18
I
30:18
will
30:18
point
30:18
out
30:18
every
30:18
inconsistency,
30:20
every.
30:21
Heracles,
30:21
Hercules
30:22
is
30:22
Roman
30:23
for
30:23
sake,
30:24
people.
30:28
Oh,
30:28
my
30:28
God,
30:29
I
30:29
love
30:29
that.
30:30
Okay,
30:31
so
30:31
does
30:32
this
30:32
lead
30:32
into
30:32
like,
30:33
actual,
30:34
like,
30:34
evolution
30:34
as
30:35
taught
30:35
in
30:36
school?
30:36
Like
30:37
going
30:37
from
30:37
the
30:37
mythology
30:38
into,
30:39
like,
30:40
normal?
30:41
If
30:41
you
30:42
want
30:42
to
30:42
call
30:42
it
30:42
that?
30:44
Yeah,
30:45
it
30:45
does.
30:45
Because
30:46
then
30:46
I
30:46
was
30:46
like,
30:46
oh,
30:46
well,
30:47
what
30:47
about
30:47
Greek
30:47
history?
30:48
How
30:48
did
30:48
this
30:48
happen?
30:49
How.
30:50
Why
30:50
did
30:50
they
30:50
evolve?
30:51
What
30:51
were
30:51
the
30:51
Greek
30:52
dark
30:52
ages?
30:53
And
30:53
then
30:53
it
30:54
delves
30:55
into,
30:55
oh,
30:56
well,
30:56
I
30:56
want
30:56
to
30:56
know
30:56
more
30:57
about
30:57
the
30:58
countries
30:58
they
30:58
were
30:58
in
30:59
conflict
30:59
with
30:59
and
31:00
how
31:00
they
31:00
evolved.
31:01
Oh,
31:01
and
31:02
that
31:02
goes
31:02
into
31:02
knowing
31:03
really
31:03
random
31:03
facts
31:03
that
31:04
nobody
31:04
needs
31:04
to
31:04
know.
31:06
Kaya,
31:06
are
31:06
you
31:07
also
31:07
adhd?
31:08
I
31:09
don't
31:09
know.
31:09
Oh,
31:10
she's
31:11
diagnosed
31:11
adhd.
31:13
We're
31:13
not
31:13
really
31:14
sure
31:14
if
31:15
it's
31:16
odd
31:16
ADHD
31:17
or
31:17
just
31:18
sometimes
31:18
autism.
31:18
And
31:19
girls
31:19
can
31:19
appear
31:20
like
31:20
ADHD
31:20
until
31:21
they're
31:21
older.
31:23
So
31:23
it's
31:23
when
31:23
people
31:24
have
31:24
autism
31:25
and
31:25
adhd.
31:26
Yeah,
31:27
it's
31:27
fun
31:27
little
31:28
mix,
31:28
wanting
31:29
a
31:29
system
31:30
but
31:30
not
31:30
having
31:30
the
31:31
energy
31:31
to
31:31
keep
31:31
it
31:32
going.
31:33
It's
31:33
craving
31:33
organization
31:34
and
31:34
thriving
31:34
on
31:35
organization.
31:35
But
31:35
your
31:35
brain
31:36
really
31:36
can't
31:36
comprehend
31:37
actually
31:37
doing
31:38
organization.
31:39
It
31:39
has
31:39
a
31:39
pride.
31:39
Example,
31:40
I
31:40
love
31:40
organization.
31:41
I
31:41
have
31:41
Google
31:42
Docs
31:42
full
31:42
of
31:43
information
31:43
on
31:43
history
31:44
that
31:44
I
31:44
read
31:44
through.
31:45
Oh,
31:45
like,
31:46
that's
31:47
like
31:47
my
31:47
brother,
31:47
we.
31:47
Used
31:48
to
31:48
tease
31:48
him
31:48
that
31:49
his
31:49
hobby
31:49
was
31:49
like,
31:50
like
31:50
making
31:50
spreadsheets.
31:51
We're
31:51
like,
31:51
I
31:51
love
31:52
making.
31:52
Go
31:52
home
31:52
and
31:52
make
31:53
a
31:53
spreadsheet.
31:54
Okay,
31:55
I
31:55
love
31:55
making
31:56
spreadsheets.
31:57
Everything's
31:57
so
31:58
organized.
31:58
Yes.
32:00
Interesting.
32:02
So
32:02
how
32:02
do
32:03
kids
32:03
who
32:03
struggle,
32:05
like
32:05
some
32:06
of
32:06
my
32:06
friends
32:06
kids,
32:06
they
32:07
have,
32:07
they
32:07
find
32:07
interests
32:08
and
32:08
they
32:08
find
32:08
these
32:08
hobbies
32:09
and
32:09
they
32:09
love
32:10
them.
32:10
But
32:10
because
32:11
of
32:11
how
32:11
the
32:11
brain
32:12
works
32:12
for
32:12
them,
32:12
with
32:13
ADHD
32:14
and
32:14
being
32:14
on
32:15
the
32:15
spectrum,
32:15
they
32:16
can't
32:17
focus
32:17
on
32:17
what
32:18
it
32:18
is
32:18
that
32:18
they
32:18
want
32:18
to
32:19
learn
32:19
about.
32:19
So
32:20
is
32:20
there,
32:20
like
32:20
a
32:20
trick
32:21
to
32:21
help
32:22
them
32:23
focus
32:23
on
32:23
what
32:23
it
32:23
is
32:24
that
32:24
they
32:24
even
32:24
want
32:24
to
32:25
know?
32:25
Well,
32:26
typically
32:26
with
32:27
adhd,
32:27
like,
32:27
when
32:28
you're
32:28
really
32:28
interested
32:28
in
32:29
something,
32:29
you're
32:29
going
32:29
to
32:29
hyper
32:30
focus,
32:30
like
32:30
to
32:31
the
32:31
point
32:31
where
32:32
it's
32:32
honestly
32:32
obnoxious.
32:33
That's
32:33
kind
32:33
of
32:34
how
32:34
my.
32:35
My
32:36
Interest
32:36
in
32:36
mental
32:37
health
32:37
actually
32:37
started
32:37
was
32:38
with
32:38
my
32:38
son
32:39
and
32:40
delved
32:40
into
32:40
every
32:41
book
32:41
I
32:41
could
32:41
find.
32:42
I
32:43
do
32:43
actually
32:43
have,
32:44
and
32:44
I
32:44
don't
32:44
know,
32:44
this
32:45
could
32:45
be
32:45
their
32:45
option,
32:46
their
32:46
thing.
32:46
I've
32:47
always
32:47
struggled
32:47
with
32:47
reading
32:48
itself,
32:49
and
32:49
we
32:49
recently
32:50
had
32:50
learned
32:50
when
32:50
we
32:50
were
32:51
going
32:51
through
32:51
a
32:51
diagnosis
32:51
for
32:52
our
32:52
son
32:52
and
32:52
when
32:52
his
32:53
reading
32:53
disability
32:54
got
32:54
diagnosed,
32:55
that
32:56
ADHD
32:58
don't
32:58
always
32:59
process
32:59
reading
33:00
correctly.
33:01
And
33:01
so
33:01
when
33:01
I
33:02
discovered
33:02
audiobooks,
33:03
my
33:03
life
33:03
changed.
33:05
So
33:06
because
33:07
I
33:07
read
33:07
at
33:08
the
33:08
pace
33:08
I
33:08
talk
33:08
and
33:09
then
33:09
my
33:10
vision
33:10
kind
33:10
of
33:10
like
33:11
jumps
33:11
around,
33:11
like,
33:11
it's
33:12
really
33:12
hard
33:12
to
33:12
focus.
33:13
That's
33:13
what
33:13
used
33:13
to
33:14
happen
33:14
to
33:14
me.
33:14
Like,
33:15
I
33:15
would.
33:15
They
33:15
thought
33:16
that
33:16
I
33:16
was
33:16
OCD
33:17
because
33:17
I
33:17
would
33:17
say,
33:18
look,
33:19
I
33:19
keep.
33:20
If
33:21
I
33:21
miss
33:21
one
33:21
word
33:22
on
33:22
the
33:22
page,
33:22
like,
33:22
I
33:22
have
33:23
to
33:23
keep
33:23
going
33:23
back
33:23
and
33:23
figuring
33:24
out
33:24
which
33:24
it
33:24
was
33:24
because
33:25
I
33:25
know
33:25
I
33:25
missed
33:25
it.
33:26
Yeah.
33:26
And
33:27
we
33:27
thought
33:27
that
33:28
it
33:28
was.
33:29
For
33:29
a
33:29
while
33:29
they
33:29
were
33:29
thinking
33:30
it
33:30
was
33:30
ocd,
33:31
but
33:31
it
33:31
turns
33:31
out
33:31
it
33:31
was
33:31
add.
33:32
Yeah.
33:33
And
33:33
so,
33:33
I
33:33
mean,
33:33
that.
33:34
That
33:34
could
33:34
be
33:34
it.
33:34
They
33:34
could
33:35
be
33:35
trying
33:35
to
33:35
read
33:35
this
33:35
information
33:36
and
33:37
their
33:37
brain
33:38
is
33:38
just
33:38
not
33:38
processing
33:39
it
33:39
correctly.
33:40
It
33:40
could
33:40
also
33:40
be
33:41
breaking
33:41
it
33:41
into
33:41
bite
33:42
sizes.
33:44
I
33:44
know
33:45
we
33:45
talk
33:45
a
33:45
lot
33:45
about,
33:46
like,
33:47
you
33:47
know,
33:48
ADHD
33:48
years
33:48
need
33:49
shorter
33:50
workflows.
33:51
I
33:51
don't
33:51
know
33:51
if
33:51
I
33:51
always
33:51
agree
33:51
with
33:52
that,
33:52
because
33:52
if
33:52
I'm
33:52
in
33:53
a
33:53
hyper
33:53
focus,
33:54
don't
33:54
interrupt
33:54
me,
33:55
because
33:55
it's
33:56
really
33:56
hard
33:56
for
33:56
me
33:56
to
33:57
get
33:57
back
33:57
into.
33:58
That's
33:58
why
33:58
I
33:58
work
33:58
better
33:58
alone
33:59
instead
33:59
of
33:59
during
34:00
the
34:00
day
34:00
when
34:00
everybody's
34:01
at
34:01
the
34:01
shop.
34:01
Yeah,
34:02
yeah.
34:02
And
34:02
I
34:03
would
34:03
think
34:03
it
34:03
too,
34:03
would
34:03
also
34:04
go
34:04
back
34:04
to
34:04
kind
34:04
of
34:04
what
34:05
you
34:05
guys
34:05
were
34:05
actually
34:05
talking
34:05
at
34:05
the
34:06
beginning
34:06
with
34:06
the
34:06
different
34:07
learning
34:07
styles.
34:08
Like,
34:09
I
34:09
kind
34:09
of
34:10
have
34:10
a
34:10
theory.
34:10
I
34:10
really
34:10
don't
34:11
have
34:11
any
34:11
research
34:11
to
34:11
support
34:12
it,
34:12
but
34:12
I
34:12
kind
34:12
of
34:12
have
34:12
a
34:12
theory
34:13
that
34:14
most
34:14
people
34:14
that
34:14
are
34:15
ADHD
34:15
at
34:15
least
34:16
have
34:17
like,
34:17
a
34:17
sense
34:18
that's
34:18
more
34:18
heightened
34:19
than
34:19
others.
34:20
So
34:21
it
34:21
might
34:21
be
34:21
an
34:21
idea
34:22
to
34:22
like
34:22
how
34:22
they
34:23
learn
34:23
better.
34:24
Maybe
34:24
kinetically
34:25
or
34:26
auditory
34:27
or
34:27
visual.
34:29
Interesting.
34:30
My
34:30
auditory
34:30
is,
34:31
like,
34:31
really
34:31
heightened.
34:32
I
34:32
get
34:32
agitated
34:33
easily
34:33
with
34:33
too
34:34
much
34:34
noise.
34:34
Yeah,
34:35
Yeah.
34:36
I
34:36
can
34:36
hear
34:37
everything.
34:38
We
34:38
all
34:39
do.
34:40
Yeah.
34:40
So,
34:40
I
34:41
mean,
34:41
I
34:41
don't
34:41
know.
34:41
I
34:41
guess
34:41
that
34:41
would
34:41
be
34:42
my
34:42
guess,
34:42
but
34:42
I
34:43
think
34:43
if
34:43
it
34:43
would
34:43
just
34:43
kind
34:44
of
34:44
depend
34:44
on
34:44
what
34:44
they're
34:44
trying
34:45
to
34:45
learn.
34:45
My
34:46
son
34:46
really
34:46
has
34:46
an
34:46
interest
34:47
in
34:47
martial
34:48
arts,
34:48
and
34:48
we've
34:48
tried
34:48
multiple
34:49
martial
34:49
arts
34:49
studios,
34:50
and
34:50
unfortunately,
34:51
it's
34:51
just
34:51
too
34:51
slow
34:52
for
34:52
him.
34:53
Like,
34:53
he
34:53
needs
34:53
to
34:54
be
34:54
moving.
34:54
He's
34:55
our
34:56
too
34:56
much
34:57
energy
34:57
all
34:57
the
34:57
time
34:58
kid.
34:58
And
34:59
so
34:59
as
35:00
much
35:00
as
35:00
he
35:00
loved
35:00
it,
35:00
it
35:01
wasn't
35:01
a
35:01
good
35:01
Fit
35:01
for
35:01
him
35:01
because
35:02
he
35:02
just
35:02
needs
35:03
to
35:03
move
35:03
more.
35:04
Okay,
35:05
how
35:05
does
35:05
unschooling
35:06
work
35:06
for
35:07
a
35:07
busy
35:07
parent
35:08
who's
35:08
like
35:08
kind
35:08
of
35:08
out
35:09
of
35:09
options
35:09
or
35:10
doesn't
35:10
like,
35:11
it's
35:11
just
35:11
school
35:12
isn't
35:12
working
35:12
for
35:13
them,
35:13
but
35:13
obviously
35:14
we
35:14
need
35:14
education.
35:15
How
35:15
does
35:16
a
35:16
busy
35:16
parent
35:17
with
35:17
like
35:17
a
35:17
full
35:18
time
35:18
job
35:19
incorporate
35:19
unschooling?
35:20
Or
35:20
is
35:20
it
35:20
just
35:20
not
35:20
going
35:21
to
35:21
be
35:21
for
35:21
them?
35:22
Yeah.
35:22
So
35:23
let
35:23
me
35:23
go
35:23
ahead
35:24
and
35:24
tell
35:24
you.
35:24
Like,
35:24
I
35:25
have
35:25
worked
35:25
at
35:25
least
35:25
part
35:25
time
35:26
or
35:26
full
35:26
time
35:26
the
35:27
entire
35:27
time.
35:28
And
35:28
the
35:29
problem
35:30
in
35:30
Maryland,
35:30
we
35:31
had
35:31
an
35:31
amazing
35:31
support
35:32
system.
35:32
We
35:32
had
35:32
the
35:33
tutorial
35:33
where
35:33
I
35:34
could
35:34
go
35:34
drop
35:34
them
35:34
off
35:34
for
35:35
a
35:35
few
35:35
hours
35:35
a
35:35
day.
35:36
We
35:37
had
35:37
amazing
35:38
friends.
35:39
Like,
35:39
it's
35:40
a
35:40
big
35:40
thing
35:40
up
35:40
there.
35:41
Like
35:41
people
35:42
don't
35:42
look
35:43
at
35:43
you
35:43
weird
35:43
when
35:43
you
35:43
tell
35:44
them
35:44
you
35:44
unschool
35:44
your
35:44
kids.
35:45
We
35:46
moved
35:46
here
35:46
about
35:46
a
35:46
year
35:46
and
35:47
a
35:47
half
35:47
ago
35:48
and
35:48
it's
35:48
been
35:49
a
35:49
lot
35:49
more
35:49
difficult
35:50
since
35:50
we.
35:50
We'd
35:50
moved
35:51
here.
35:51
We
35:52
actually
35:52
had
35:53
made
35:53
the
35:53
decision.
35:53
And
35:54
this
35:54
is
35:54
actually
35:55
still
35:55
unschooling.
35:56
It's
35:56
allowing
35:56
your
35:56
children
35:57
to
35:57
make
35:57
their
35:57
own
35:57
choices.
35:58
So
35:58
Kaya
35:59
is
35:59
actually
35:59
going
35:59
to
36:00
be
36:00
attending
36:00
a
36:00
charter
36:00
school
36:01
next
36:01
year.
36:01
Okay.
36:02
And
36:03
you're
36:04
excited?
36:04
I
36:04
want
36:05
friends
36:05
who
36:05
actually
36:05
come
36:06
over
36:06
and
36:06
hang
36:06
out
36:07
with
36:07
me.
36:08
Okay.
36:09
And
36:09
Tayton
36:09
is
36:09
going
36:09
to
36:09
be
36:09
attending
36:10
a
36:10
forest
36:10
school
36:10
in
36:10
the
36:11
area.
36:12
A
36:12
forest
36:13
program
36:13
that's
36:14
local
36:14
here
36:14
to
36:14
Buford
36:14
Cultural.
36:15
It's
36:15
called
36:16
Trailblazers.
36:16
It's
36:17
a
36:17
really
36:17
cool
36:17
secular
36:18
program.
36:18
I'm
36:18
sorry,
36:19
you
36:19
said
36:19
forest
36:19
as
36:20
in
36:20
like
36:20
trees?
36:20
Forest
36:21
outside.
36:22
Like
36:22
they're
36:22
outside.
36:24
It's
36:24
a
36:24
really
36:24
cool
36:24
program.
36:25
It's
36:26
gonna
36:26
be
36:26
a
36:26
great
36:26
fit
36:26
for
36:26
him.
36:27
They
36:27
do
36:27
a
36:27
couple
36:27
of
36:28
hours
36:28
of
36:28
like,
36:29
independent
36:29
study
36:30
work,
36:30
which
36:30
we've
36:30
picked
36:31
his
36:31
curriculum
36:31
for
36:31
that.
36:32
Like,
36:32
we
36:32
get
36:32
to
36:32
tailor
36:33
it.
36:33
He's
36:33
doing
36:33
an
36:33
engineering
36:34
unit
36:34
study.
36:35
I've
36:35
had
36:35
to
36:35
put
36:35
a
36:36
lot
36:36
of
36:36
work
36:36
into
36:36
making
36:36
sure
36:36
that
36:37
he
36:37
can
36:37
do
36:37
that
36:37
without
36:37
me.
36:39
But
36:40
then
36:40
he'll
36:40
get
36:41
like
36:41
in
36:41
the
36:41
evenings,
36:42
like,
36:42
they're
36:42
actually.
36:42
Their
36:43
hope
36:43
is
36:43
when
36:43
they
36:43
get
36:43
to
36:44
high
36:44
school,
36:44
they'll
36:44
be
36:45
able
36:45
to
36:45
include
36:45
internships
36:46
and
36:46
things
36:47
like
36:47
that.
36:47
Oh,
36:48
wow.
36:48
This
36:48
program
36:49
is
36:49
not
36:49
designed
36:49
for
36:50
ADHD
36:50
and
36:50
autistic
36:51
kids,
36:51
but
36:51
it
36:51
seems
36:52
to
36:52
be
36:52
the
36:52
people
36:52
that
36:52
they,
36:52
the
36:53
kids
36:53
they
36:53
attract.
36:54
Interesting
36:55
because
36:55
maybe
36:55
because
36:55
they're
36:56
just
36:56
out
36:56
there
36:56
in
36:57
the,
36:57
in
36:57
nature
36:57
getting
36:58
to
36:58
like,
36:58
move
36:58
around
36:59
and
36:59
do
36:59
things.
37:00
And
37:00
the
37:01
one
37:01
of
37:01
the
37:01
ladies
37:01
that
37:01
runs
37:02
it
37:02
is
37:02
actually
37:02
a
37:02
therapist,
37:03
so
37:03
it
37:04
was
37:04
so
37:04
funny.
37:04
So
37:04
my
37:05
son
37:05
also
37:05
has
37:05
odd,
37:06
so
37:06
Oppositional
37:07
defiance
37:07
disorder.
37:08
So
37:08
they're
37:08
the
37:08
kids,
37:10
they
37:10
push
37:10
back
37:10
on
37:10
authority
37:11
like
37:11
nobody's
37:11
business.
37:13
That's
37:13
a
37:13
diagnosis.
37:14
It
37:14
is,
37:14
yes.
37:15
Oh,
37:15
my
37:15
gosh.
37:16
I'm
37:16
thinking
37:16
about,
37:17
you
37:18
know
37:18
who.
37:18
Yeah,
37:19
yeah.
37:19
No.
37:20
And,
37:20
yeah,
37:20
this
37:21
is
37:21
really
37:21
helpful.
37:22
I
37:22
wonder
37:23
if
37:23
it
37:23
may
37:23
actually
37:24
just
37:24
be
37:24
a
37:24
symptom
37:24
of
37:25
ADHD,
37:25
because
37:26
ADHDers,
37:27
they
37:27
don't
37:28
just
37:28
do
37:28
what
37:28
people
37:29
tell
37:29
them
37:29
to
37:29
do.
37:30
We
37:30
want
37:30
to
37:30
know
37:30
why,
37:31
you
37:31
know?
37:31
But
37:31
I
37:31
always
37:31
tell
37:32
my
37:32
husband,
37:32
I'm
37:32
like,
37:32
I'm
37:32
afraid
37:33
if
37:33
I
37:33
put
37:33
him
37:33
in
37:33
the
37:34
public
37:34
school
37:34
system
37:34
as
37:35
an
37:35
odder,
37:36
that
37:37
I
37:37
think
37:37
it's
37:37
gonna
37:37
be
37:37
an
37:38
amazing
37:38
trait
37:38
when
37:38
he's
37:38
an
37:39
adult,
37:39
I
37:39
want
37:39
him
37:39
to
37:40
never
37:40
be
37:40
afraid
37:40
to
37:40
push
37:41
back,
37:41
to
37:41
question.
37:42
I
37:42
just
37:42
want
37:43
him
37:43
to
37:43
learn
37:43
to
37:43
do
37:43
it
37:43
respectfully.
37:44
Right.
37:46
And
37:46
so
37:47
when
37:47
I
37:47
told
37:47
her
37:47
that
37:48
when
37:48
someone
37:48
was
37:48
odd,
37:48
she
37:49
goes,
37:49
I
37:49
love
37:49
odd
37:50
kids.
37:50
And
37:50
I'm
37:51
like,
37:51
you're
37:51
the
37:51
only
37:51
person
37:51
in
37:51
the
37:51
history
37:52
of
37:52
anything
37:53
ever
37:53
said.
37:53
That
37:54
you
37:55
push
37:55
back
37:55
passive
37:56
aggressively.
37:58
Okay.
37:59
That's
37:59
what
37:59
I've
37:59
learned,
38:00
especially
38:00
online.
38:02
You
38:02
push
38:02
back
38:03
passive
38:03
aggressively.
38:04
Okay.
38:06
So,
38:07
yeah,
38:07
so
38:07
he
38:08
will
38:08
actually
38:08
be
38:08
attending
38:09
that.
38:09
Had
38:09
we
38:09
stayed
38:09
in
38:10
Maryland,
38:10
we
38:10
would
38:11
probably
38:11
still
38:12
be
38:12
in
38:12
the
38:12
same
38:13
way
38:13
we
38:13
were.
38:14
The
38:14
program
38:14
we
38:14
had
38:15
before,
38:15
they
38:15
had
38:15
homecomings
38:16
and
38:16
proms
38:17
and
38:17
graduations,
38:18
and
38:18
they
38:19
facilitated
38:20
classes
38:20
if
38:21
the
38:21
kids
38:21
were
38:21
interested
38:22
in
38:22
them.
38:22
Unfortunately,
38:23
that's
38:23
not
38:24
here
38:24
unless
38:25
we
38:25
go
38:25
closer
38:26
to
38:26
Atlanta.
38:26
Gotcha.
38:27
And
38:28
so
38:28
since
38:28
I
38:29
have
38:29
to
38:29
work
38:29
full
38:29
time,
38:30
um,
38:30
I
38:30
work
38:31
full
38:31
time,
38:31
remote,
38:31
thankfully.
38:32
So
38:32
my
38:32
schedule
38:32
is,
38:33
you
38:33
know,
38:34
very
38:35
flexible
38:36
for
38:36
the
38:36
most
38:37
part.
38:37
Um,
38:38
and
38:39
where
38:39
did
38:39
you.
38:39
Okay,
38:40
so,
38:40
like,
38:41
where
38:41
did
38:41
you
38:41
even
38:41
find
38:42
out?
38:42
Like,
38:42
where
38:42
would
38:42
a
38:42
parent
38:43
or
38:43
someone
38:43
go
38:43
to
38:43
find
38:44
out
38:44
about
38:44
these
38:44
other
38:44
programs?
38:45
So
38:46
you
38:46
can
38:46
actually
38:47
snap.
38:47
What
38:47
is
38:48
the
38:48
website?
38:48
There
38:48
is
38:49
a
38:49
website,
38:51
and
38:51
if
38:51
you.
38:52
I'll
38:52
find
38:52
it
38:52
and
38:52
I
38:53
can
38:53
give
38:53
it
38:53
to
38:53
you
38:53
guys
38:53
and
38:53
you
38:53
can
38:54
link
38:54
it.
38:54
Yeah,
38:55
but
38:55
it's
38:56
specifically
38:56
for
38:56
alternative
38:57
education.
38:58
Okay.
38:59
His
38:59
program
39:00
is
39:00
considered
39:00
a
39:00
homeschool
39:01
program,
39:01
but
39:01
they're
39:01
fully
39:02
accredited.
39:02
Okay.
39:03
So
39:03
he
39:03
would
39:04
graduate
39:04
with
39:04
a
39:04
diploma.
39:05
Okay.
39:05
So
39:06
unschooling
39:06
is
39:07
just
39:07
a
39:07
term
39:07
that
39:08
says
39:08
you
39:08
let
39:08
your
39:08
kids
39:09
decide
39:09
kind
39:09
of
39:10
where
39:10
they
39:10
want
39:10
to
39:10
go
39:10
and
39:11
how
39:11
they
39:11
want
39:11
to
39:11
go
39:11
about
39:12
it.
39:12
Because
39:12
charter
39:12
school
39:13
is
39:13
a
39:13
school.
39:13
My
39:14
kids
39:14
are
39:14
in
39:14
charter
39:14
school.
39:15
Like,
39:15
it's
39:15
a
39:15
public.
39:15
She's.
39:16
It's
39:16
a
39:16
public
39:16
high
39:17
school
39:17
that
39:17
she's
39:17
going
39:17
to
39:17
be
39:17
attending
39:18
in
39:18
Barrow
39:18
County.
39:19
It's
39:19
an
39:19
arts
39:20
and
39:20
science
39:20
academy
39:21
that
39:21
she's
39:21
really,
39:21
really
39:21
excited
39:22
about.
39:22
Yeah.
39:23
But.
39:24
Yeah,
39:24
that's
39:24
exactly
39:24
what
39:25
it
39:25
is.
39:25
It's
39:25
about
39:25
allowing
39:26
your
39:26
children
39:26
to
39:27
lead
39:27
their
39:27
own
39:27
education.
39:28
And
39:28
we
39:28
have
39:28
a
39:28
couple
39:29
of
39:29
rules
39:29
or
39:29
with.
39:29
Around
39:30
her
39:30
starting
39:31
school
39:31
is
39:32
that
39:32
she
39:32
has
39:33
to
39:33
finish
39:33
the
39:33
Full
39:33
year.
39:34
And
39:34
if
39:34
she
39:34
decides
39:35
at
39:35
the
39:35
end
39:35
of
39:35
the
39:35
year
39:35
that
39:35
that's
39:36
not
39:36
what
39:36
she
39:36
wants,
39:36
then
39:37
we'll
39:37
find
39:37
another.
39:37
Okay.
39:38
Fair?
39:38
Fair.
39:39
Because
39:39
I
39:39
think
39:39
that's
39:39
the
39:40
other
39:40
thing
39:40
is,
39:41
you
39:42
know,
39:42
children
39:43
may
39:43
want
39:44
to
39:44
do
39:44
something,
39:45
they
39:45
get
39:45
into
39:45
it,
39:45
then
39:45
they
39:46
don't,
39:46
and
39:46
it
39:46
just,
39:46
it
39:47
changes
39:47
a
39:47
lot
39:47
and
39:47
it
39:47
goes
39:48
a
39:48
lot
39:48
of
39:48
back
39:48
and
39:48
forth.
39:48
But
39:49
you
39:49
are
39:49
putting
39:49
the
39:49
boundary
39:49
and
39:50
the
39:50
structure
39:50
of,
39:51
okay,
39:51
we
39:51
can
39:51
do
39:52
that,
39:52
but
39:52
the
39:53
deal
39:53
is
39:54
we're
39:54
going
39:54
to
39:54
see
39:54
it
39:54
through
39:55
and
39:55
then
39:55
you
39:55
can
39:55
change
39:56
your
39:56
mind.
39:57
Yes.
39:57
And
39:57
that's,
39:57
you
39:58
know,
39:58
I
39:58
feel
39:58
like
39:58
unschooling
39:59
fits
39:59
perfectly.
40:00
So
40:00
we
40:00
consider
40:00
ourselves
40:01
like
40:02
gentle
40:02
parents.
40:02
And
40:03
I
40:03
think
40:03
it
40:03
fits
40:03
really
40:04
perfectly
40:04
into
40:04
that
40:05
model
40:05
of
40:06
respecting
40:06
your
40:06
children.
40:07
And
40:08
I
40:08
always
40:08
have
40:08
to
40:08
communicate
40:09
to
40:09
my
40:09
father
40:09
in
40:10
law,
40:10
who
40:10
is
40:10
very
40:10
like
40:11
old
40:11
school,
40:12
that
40:13
military.
40:14
Just
40:14
because
40:14
I
40:14
don't
40:14
yell
40:15
and
40:15
scream
40:15
at
40:15
my
40:15
kids
40:16
does
40:16
not
40:16
mean
40:16
we
40:16
do
40:16
not
40:17
have
40:17
our
40:17
boundaries
40:17
and
40:17
our
40:17
consequences.
40:18
Right.
40:19
I
40:19
just
40:19
have
40:19
different
40:20
ways
40:20
of
40:20
going
40:20
about
40:20
it.
40:20
Like
40:21
the
40:21
grounded
40:21
letter.
40:22
We
40:22
don't
40:22
spank
40:22
them,
40:23
we
40:23
don't
40:23
ground
40:23
them.
40:23
We
40:23
do
40:24
have
40:24
what
40:24
we
40:24
call
40:24
a
40:24
grounded
40:25
letter.
40:25
What's
40:25
that?
40:26
So
40:27
they
40:27
have
40:27
it.
40:27
We
40:27
have
40:28
like
40:28
a
40:28
first
40:29
time
40:29
we
40:29
ask
40:29
you
40:29
as
40:29
a
40:30
warning,
40:30
second
40:30
time,
40:31
you
40:31
lose
40:31
whatever
40:31
privilege
40:32
or
40:32
whatever
40:33
privilege
40:33
until
40:34
you
40:34
finish
40:35
whatever
40:35
it
40:35
is
40:36
we
40:36
ask.
40:36
And
40:36
second
40:36
to
40:36
the
40:36
third
40:37
time,
40:37
you
40:37
get
40:37
a
40:37
grounded
40:37
letter.
40:38
And
40:38
so
40:38
the
40:38
grounded
40:39
letter
40:39
is
40:39
just
40:40
certain
40:40
amount
40:40
of
40:41
points
40:41
that
40:42
they
40:42
have
40:42
to
40:42
earn
40:42
with
40:43
different
40:43
chores
40:44
and
40:44
things
40:44
around
40:44
the
40:44
house.
40:45
And
40:46
it
40:46
takes
40:47
the
40:47
responsibility
40:47
off
40:47
of
40:48
me
40:48
to
40:48
them.
40:48
So
40:49
it's
40:49
not
40:49
my
40:49
job
40:49
to
40:50
get
40:50
you
40:50
ungrounded,
40:50
it's
40:51
yours.
40:51
So
40:51
if
40:51
you're
40:52
stubborn,
40:53
you
40:53
can
40:53
be
40:53
grounded
40:53
for
40:53
an
40:54
entire
40:54
year
40:54
and
40:54
there's
40:55
nothing
40:55
she
40:55
can
40:55
do
40:55
about
40:55
it.
40:56
It's
40:56
your
40:56
problem.
40:57
Oh,
40:57
I
40:57
love
40:58
that.
40:58
That's
40:59
really
40:59
cool.
41:00
Yeah.
41:00
And
41:01
that's
41:01
a
41:01
big
41:01
thing
41:01
about
41:01
unschooling
41:02
is
41:02
like
41:02
we
41:03
shift
41:03
the
41:04
child
41:05
appropriate
41:06
responsibility
41:06
to
41:07
our
41:07
children.
41:07
Like,
41:08
it
41:08
is
41:08
your
41:08
choice
41:09
to
41:09
decide
41:10
how
41:10
you
41:10
want
41:11
to
41:11
learn,
41:11
what
41:12
you
41:12
want
41:12
to
41:12
learn.
41:13
That's
41:13
amazing.
41:13
You
41:14
know,
41:14
parenting
41:14
is
41:14
the
41:14
same
41:15
way.
41:15
Like
41:15
we
41:15
tell
41:15
our
41:16
kids
41:16
all
41:16
the
41:16
time
41:17
of
41:17
the
41:17
time,
41:17
our
41:17
house
41:17
is
41:17
a
41:17
democracy.
41:18
There's
41:18
a
41:18
handful
41:19
of
41:19
times
41:19
that
41:19
it's
41:19
a
41:19
monarchy.
41:20
And
41:20
you
41:20
just
41:20
have
41:20
to
41:20
trust
41:20
we
41:21
know
41:21
best.
41:21
Yeah.
41:22
But
41:22
because
41:22
situational
41:23
monarchy,
41:23
that's
41:23
what
41:23
that
41:23
is.
41:24
Okay,
41:24
thank
41:25
you.
41:25
I
41:25
did
41:25
not
41:25
know
41:25
that.
41:26
Thank
41:26
you.
41:28
But
41:28
because
41:28
we
41:29
allow
41:29
for
41:30
this
41:30
freedom
41:30
and
41:31
choice
41:31
and
41:31
they
41:32
feel
41:32
like
41:32
they're
41:32
heard
41:33
when
41:33
there
41:34
is
41:34
an
41:34
issue.
41:34
And
41:34
we've
41:35
changed
41:35
rules
41:35
before
41:35
in
41:36
our
41:36
house
41:36
because
41:36
they
41:36
could
41:36
make
41:37
a
41:37
really
41:37
good
41:37
Case.
41:39
That
41:40
means
41:40
that
41:40
when
41:40
we
41:40
do
41:40
put
41:40
our
41:41
foot
41:41
downs,
41:41
they
41:41
trust
41:41
us.
41:42
They
41:42
understand.
41:42
Like,
41:43
it
41:43
doesn't
41:43
mean
41:43
they
41:44
don't.
41:44
They
41:44
love
41:44
it.
41:44
I
41:45
mean,
41:45
they
41:45
still
41:45
push
41:45
back
41:45
and
41:46
they
41:46
may
41:46
not
41:46
like
41:46
it,
41:46
but
41:47
they
41:47
don't.
41:47
We
41:48
don't
41:48
have
41:48
a
41:48
lot
41:48
of
41:48
behavioral
41:49
issues
41:49
out
41:49
of
41:49
our
41:49
kids.
41:50
Oh,
41:51
they
41:52
know
41:52
that
41:52
you
41:53
will
41:53
listen
41:53
to
41:53
them.
41:55
This
41:56
is
41:56
unfair.
41:56
This
41:57
isn't
41:57
right.
41:57
Or,
41:57
like,
41:58
interesting.
41:59
Do
41:59
you
42:00
have,
42:00
like,
42:00
an
42:00
experience
42:00
with
42:01
that,
42:01
Kaya,
42:01
that
42:02
you
42:02
can
42:02
think
42:02
of,
42:03
like
42:04
the.
42:05
Because
42:05
you're
42:05
just
42:05
over
42:05
there
42:06
nodding
42:06
your
42:06
head.
42:07
I
42:07
was
42:07
just
42:07
wondering
42:08
what
42:08
you
42:08
were.
42:08
Thinking
42:08
of
42:08
the
42:09
one
42:09
time
42:09
we
42:09
were
42:09
walking
42:10
home
42:10
and
42:10
I
42:10
was
42:10
in
42:10
elementary
42:11
school,
42:11
and
42:11
I
42:12
went,
42:12
are
42:12
you.
42:12
Are
42:12
swimsuits
42:13
good
42:13
for
42:13
the
42:14
environment?
42:16
Okay.
42:16
Which
42:17
is.
42:17
And
42:17
I
42:17
was
42:18
like,
42:18
well,
42:18
if
42:19
they
42:19
hold
42:19
the
42:20
water
42:20
and
42:20
they
42:20
dry
42:21
faster,
42:21
do
42:21
they
42:22
contribute
42:22
to
42:22
evaporation?
42:24
Because
42:24
I
42:24
had
42:25
just
42:25
learned
42:25
about
42:26
it.
42:27
Oh,
42:28
okay.
42:29
So
42:29
what
42:29
were
42:29
you
42:29
trying.
42:30
What
42:30
were
42:30
you
42:30
trying
42:31
to,
42:31
like,
42:31
were
42:31
you
42:32
trying
42:32
to
42:32
say,
42:32
oh,
42:33
should
42:33
we.
42:33
We'd
42:34
be
42:34
wearing
42:34
swimming
42:34
suits?
42:35
Or
42:35
what
42:35
were
42:35
you
42:35
like?
42:35
No,
42:36
it
42:36
was
42:36
just
42:36
a
42:36
random
42:37
thought.
42:39
I
42:39
was
42:39
debating
42:39
her
42:39
on
42:40
it
42:40
on
42:40
the
42:40
walk
42:40
home.
42:42
Okay.
42:43
I
42:43
mean,
42:43
you
42:44
know,
42:44
we
42:44
still.
42:44
She's
42:45
still
42:45
a
42:45
teenage
42:45
girl,
42:45
and
42:46
we're
42:46
very
42:46
different
42:47
and
42:48
she's.
42:49
We're
42:49
very
42:49
different
42:50
people.
42:50
And
42:51
so
42:52
we
42:52
got
42:52
into
42:52
an
42:52
argument.
42:53
I
42:54
don't
42:54
know.
42:54
It's
42:54
a
42:54
couple
42:54
months
42:55
ago.
42:55
I
42:55
don't
42:55
remember
42:55
what
42:55
it
42:55
was
42:56
over.
42:56
And
42:59
she
42:59
definitely
43:00
needs
43:01
to
43:01
work
43:01
a
43:01
little
43:01
bit
43:02
on
43:02
her
43:04
anger
43:04
management.
43:05
But
43:07
we.
43:07
After
43:08
we
43:08
calmed
43:08
down,
43:08
like,
43:09
I
43:09
was
43:09
able
43:09
to,
43:09
like,
43:10
reflect
43:10
on
43:10
what
43:10
she
43:10
said
43:11
and
43:11
that
43:11
there
43:11
was
43:11
some
43:11
truth
43:12
in
43:13
what
43:13
she
43:13
was
43:13
telling
43:13
me.
43:14
And
43:14
so
43:15
we
43:15
were.
43:15
Just
43:15
a
43:15
few
43:15
days
43:15
ago.
43:17
Just
43:17
a
43:17
few
43:17
days
43:17
ago.
43:18
That
43:18
too.
43:19
But
43:19
this
43:19
specific
43:20
argument,
43:20
I
43:20
remember,
43:20
it
43:20
was
43:20
pretty
43:21
big
43:21
because
43:21
my
43:21
husband
43:21
even
43:22
said,
43:22
like,
43:22
you
43:23
guys
43:23
don't
43:23
normally
43:23
fight
43:24
like
43:24
that.
43:24
And
43:26
so
43:26
I
43:26
don't
43:27
remember.
43:27
Again,
43:27
I
43:27
don't
43:27
remember
43:28
exactly
43:28
what
43:28
it
43:28
was
43:28
about.
43:29
But
43:29
we
43:30
ended
43:30
up.
43:30
I.
43:30
The
43:31
next
43:31
morning,
43:31
we
43:31
sat
43:32
down
43:32
over
43:32
breakfast
43:33
and
43:33
we
43:33
talked,
43:33
and
43:33
we
43:33
were
43:33
able
43:34
to
43:35
kind
43:35
of
43:35
come
43:35
to
43:35
a
43:35
compromise.
43:36
Like,
43:36
I
43:36
was
43:36
able
43:36
to
43:36
hear
43:37
her
43:37
point
43:37
of
43:37
view
43:37
and
43:38
what
43:38
she
43:38
was
43:38
trying
43:38
to
43:39
communicate
43:39
with
43:39
me.
43:40
And
43:40
I
43:41
was.
43:41
She
43:41
was
43:41
also
43:41
in
43:42
a
43:42
good
43:42
place
43:42
at
43:42
that
43:42
point
43:43
to
43:43
communicate
43:43
with
43:43
me,
43:43
like,
43:44
how
43:44
she
43:44
was
43:44
feeling.
43:44
And
43:45
we
43:45
were
43:45
able
43:45
to
43:45
find
43:45
a
43:46
compromise.
43:46
Right.
43:47
When
43:47
not
43:48
all
43:48
of
43:48
the,
43:48
like,
43:49
high
43:49
emotions
43:50
were
43:51
emotions
43:51
flying
43:52
around.
43:52
Yeah.
43:53
And
43:53
I
43:53
mean,
43:53
as
43:53
a
43:53
parent,
43:53
I
43:54
think
43:54
it's
43:54
so
43:54
important.
43:54
Like,
43:55
you
43:55
know,
43:55
I'm
43:56
from
43:56
the
43:56
south
43:56
too,
43:56
so
43:57
I
43:57
was
43:57
raised
43:57
like,
43:57
my
43:57
parent
43:58
is
43:58
right.
43:58
End
43:58
of
43:58
story.
43:59
Like,
43:59
right.
43:59
I
44:00
think
44:00
it's
44:00
so
44:00
important
44:01
because
44:01
they
44:01
have
44:02
their
44:02
own
44:02
thoughts
44:02
and
44:02
feelings
44:03
and
44:03
emotions
44:04
and
44:05
their
44:05
truths
44:05
are
44:05
different
44:05
than
44:06
ours.
44:06
You
44:06
know,
44:07
we
44:07
can
44:07
think
44:07
that
44:07
we're
44:08
doing
44:08
everything
44:08
perfect
44:09
and
44:09
we're
44:09
still
44:09
missing
44:10
some
44:10
of
44:10
the
44:10
mark.
44:11
It
44:11
doesn't
44:11
mean
44:11
we
44:11
have
44:12
to
44:12
be
44:12
perfect,
44:12
but
44:12
it
44:13
does
44:13
mean
44:13
that
44:13
it's
44:13
okay
44:14
to
44:14
be
44:14
reflective
44:15
on
44:15
what
44:16
we're
44:16
doing
44:16
as
44:16
a
44:16
parent.
44:17
You
44:17
know,
44:17
and
44:17
this
44:18
is
44:18
pretty,
44:19
pretty.
44:20
It's
44:21
a,
44:21
it's
44:21
a
44:21
really
44:22
interesting
44:22
thing
44:22
to
44:22
really
44:23
think
44:23
about
44:23
because
44:24
you're
44:24
teaching
44:25
them
44:25
normal
44:26
human
44:26
skills,
44:27
like
44:27
communication
44:28
skills
44:29
by
44:29
sitting
44:29
there
44:30
and
44:30
saying,
44:30
hey,
44:31
let's
44:31
see
44:31
each
44:31
other's
44:32
perspective
44:32
now
44:33
that
44:33
we're
44:33
both
44:33
on
44:33
a
44:33
level
44:34
playing
44:34
field.
44:35
Like
44:35
these
44:35
are
44:36
things
44:36
that
44:36
you
44:37
miss
44:37
really
44:39
in
44:39
a
44:39
traditional
44:40
like
44:40
upbringing.
44:40
And
44:41
that's
44:41
why
44:41
we
44:42
have,
44:42
you
44:42
know,
44:42
comes
44:43
back
44:43
to
44:44
mental
44:44
health
44:45
problems
44:46
that
44:46
are
44:46
just
44:47
at
44:47
large
44:47
because
44:48
we're
44:48
not
44:48
learning
44:49
how
44:49
to
44:49
properly
44:50
communicate.
44:51
And
44:53
honestly,
44:53
what's
44:53
also
44:54
really
44:54
cool
44:54
is
44:55
that
44:55
I
44:55
am
44:55
becoming
44:56
an
44:56
RTT
44:57
therapist.
44:57
And
44:58
part
44:58
of
44:58
that
44:58
is
44:59
how
45:00
we
45:00
are
45:00
talked
45:00
to,
45:00
treated
45:01
and
45:02
taught
45:02
and
45:03
things
45:03
that
45:03
we
45:03
perceive
45:04
as
45:04
a
45:04
child,
45:05
how
45:05
that
45:06
carries
45:06
on
45:06
into
45:07
us
45:07
as
45:07
a
45:08
adult.
45:08
So
45:09
a
45:10
child
45:10
perceiving.
45:12
Oh,
45:13
I
45:13
was,
45:13
every
45:14
time
45:14
I
45:14
did
45:14
something
45:14
wrong,
45:15
I
45:15
was
45:15
grounded.
45:16
My
45:16
perception
45:17
as
45:17
an
45:18
eight
45:18
year
45:18
old
45:18
was
45:18
that
45:19
my
45:19
parents
45:19
didn't
45:19
love
45:20
me
45:20
enough
45:20
to
45:21
allow
45:21
me
45:21
to
45:21
do
45:21
xyz.
45:23
Is
45:23
that
45:24
true?
45:24
No.
45:24
The
45:24
parent
45:25
loves
45:25
you.
45:25
And
45:25
that's
45:26
possibly,
45:27
probably
45:27
why
45:27
you
45:28
were
45:28
grounded
45:28
is
45:28
because
45:29
they
45:29
were
45:29
trying
45:29
to
45:29
teach
45:29
you
45:29
and
45:30
trying
45:30
to
45:30
help
45:30
you
45:31
do
45:31
better.
45:31
But
45:32
as
45:32
an
45:32
8
45:32
year
45:32
old,
45:33
your
45:33
perception
45:33
was
45:34
they
45:34
don't
45:34
love
45:34
me.
45:34
And
45:34
that
45:34
is
45:35
why
45:35
I
45:35
keep
45:35
getting
45:35
grounded
45:36
to
45:36
my
45:36
room
45:36
and
45:37
grounded
45:37
from
45:37
my
45:37
books
45:37
or
45:38
whatever.
45:38
And
45:39
so
45:39
it's
45:39
really
45:39
interesting
45:40
to
45:40
hear.
45:41
The
45:42
flip
45:42
side
45:42
of
45:42
it
45:42
is
45:43
that
45:43
you
45:43
are
45:43
taking
45:43
the
45:43
time
45:44
to
45:44
learn
45:44
that.
45:44
And
45:44
I,
45:44
I.
45:45
That
45:45
really
45:45
might
45:46
solve
45:46
so
45:46
many
45:46
problems
45:47
if
45:47
we
45:47
really
45:47
all
45:47
took
45:48
the
45:48
time
45:48
to
45:48
really
45:49
take
45:50
the
45:50
time
45:50
to
45:50
do
45:50
that.
45:51
Yeah,
45:52
I
45:52
mean,
45:52
I
45:53
work
45:53
with
45:53
kids
45:54
and
45:55
I
45:55
notice
45:56
the
45:56
thing
45:56
that
45:56
I
45:57
have
45:57
learned
45:58
in
45:58
the
45:59
two
46:00
and
46:00
a
46:00
half
46:00
years
46:00
that
46:00
I've
46:00
been
46:01
working
46:01
with,
46:01
the
46:01
company
46:02
I
46:02
work
46:02
with
46:02
is
46:03
the
46:03
kids
46:03
that
46:03
I
46:03
work
46:03
with
46:04
that
46:04
have
46:04
involved
46:04
parents.
46:05
The
46:05
parents
46:05
that
46:06
are
46:06
willing
46:06
to
46:06
like
46:06
check
46:06
their
46:07
egos
46:07
at
46:07
the
46:07
door
46:08
and
46:08
recognize
46:09
that
46:09
even
46:09
though
46:10
they
46:10
love
46:10
their
46:11
kids
46:11
and
46:11
nothing
46:11
is
46:12
done
46:12
out
46:12
of
46:12
malice,
46:13
like
46:13
we
46:13
know
46:14
that
46:14
everything
46:14
they're
46:14
doing
46:14
is
46:15
out
46:15
of
46:15
love
46:16
sometimes.
46:16
I
46:17
mean,
46:17
kind
46:17
of
46:17
my
46:18
running
46:18
joke
46:18
with
46:18
them
46:18
is
46:19
like,
46:19
your
46:19
kid
46:19
is
46:19
a
46:20
Maytag
46:20
washer
46:20
that
46:21
came
46:21
with
46:21
a
46:21
Whirlpool
46:22
manual.
46:22
So
46:23
of
46:23
course
46:23
they're
46:23
not
46:23
going
46:24
to
46:24
work
46:24
correctly
46:25
until
46:25
you
46:25
understand
46:26
how
46:26
they're
46:27
operating.
46:28
Like,
46:28
we've
46:28
got
46:28
to
46:29
get
46:29
you
46:29
to
46:29
understand
46:30
how
46:30
they
46:31
specifically
46:31
are
46:32
operating.
46:32
Right.
46:33
And
46:33
so
46:33
the
46:33
parents
46:34
that
46:34
are
46:34
so
46:34
successful
46:35
with
46:35
the
46:35
kids
46:35
that
46:36
we
46:36
work
46:36
with
46:36
are.
46:37
Or
46:37
the
46:38
kids
46:38
that
46:38
are
46:38
successful
46:38
are
46:38
the
46:39
parents
46:40
that
46:40
are
46:40
involved
46:41
and
46:41
they're
46:41
willing
46:41
to
46:42
be
46:42
like,
46:42
hey,
46:42
you
46:43
know,
46:43
maybe
46:43
I
46:43
was
46:44
doing
46:44
this
46:44
wrong
46:45
for
46:45
them.
46:46
Yeah.
46:46
You
46:47
know,
46:47
and
46:47
so
46:48
these
46:48
are
46:48
the
46:48
kids
46:49
that
46:49
are
46:49
successful.
46:49
So
46:49
I
46:50
work
46:50
specifically
46:50
with
46:50
anxiety
46:51
and
46:51
OCD
46:51
at
46:51
work,
46:53
but,
46:53
like,
46:54
you
46:54
know,
46:54
parents
46:55
unintentionally.
46:55
I
46:56
know
46:56
she
46:56
hates
46:56
it
46:56
sometimes,
46:57
but,
46:57
like,
46:57
when
46:57
we
46:57
were
46:57
in
46:58
Alaska,
46:59
she
46:59
did
46:59
some
47:00
exposures
47:00
and
47:01
some.
47:02
What?
47:03
We
47:03
do
47:03
exposure
47:03
therapy.
47:04
Sorry.
47:04
So
47:05
she
47:05
did
47:05
some
47:05
exposure.
47:05
She's
47:06
got
47:06
mild
47:06
social
47:06
anxiety,
47:08
as
47:08
we
47:08
all
47:09
do.
47:10
Yeah.
47:10
So,
47:11
you
47:11
know,
47:11
there's
47:12
things
47:12
like,
47:12
you
47:12
know,
47:13
I.
47:14
I
47:14
understand
47:14
that
47:15
ordering
47:15
this
47:15
meal
47:16
is
47:16
really
47:16
difficult
47:16
for
47:17
you
47:17
at
47:17
the
47:17
moment.
47:18
I'm
47:19
going
47:19
to
47:19
be
47:19
here
47:19
to
47:19
support
47:19
you,
47:20
but
47:20
I'm
47:20
not
47:20
going
47:20
to
47:20
do
47:20
it
47:20
for
47:21
you.
47:21
Right.
47:21
You
47:22
know,
47:22
and
47:22
so
47:23
that's.
47:23
I
47:23
think
47:23
that's
47:23
the
47:24
big
47:24
thing
47:24
that
47:24
so
47:24
many
47:24
people
47:25
don't
47:25
get
47:25
with
47:25
kids
47:25
is
47:26
like,
47:26
we
47:26
can
47:26
treat
47:26
our
47:26
kids
47:27
respectfully
47:27
and
47:27
still
47:27
have
47:28
our
47:28
boundaries.
47:28
Right.
47:30
You
47:30
know,
47:30
we
47:30
have
47:31
a
47:31
boundary
47:31
in
47:31
our
47:31
house.
47:31
Like,
47:32
we're
47:32
not
47:32
going
47:33
to
47:34
cuss
47:34
at
47:34
each
47:35
other
47:35
when
47:35
we're
47:35
angry,
47:36
you
47:36
know.
47:36
Yeah.
47:37
We're
47:37
not
47:37
going
47:37
to
47:37
treat
47:38
each
47:38
other
47:38
disrespectfully.
47:39
We're
47:39
not
47:39
going
47:40
to
47:40
push
47:41
boundaries.
47:41
And
47:41
it.
47:42
Just
47:42
because
47:42
there's
47:42
a
47:43
consequence
47:44
doesn't
47:44
mean
47:44
it
47:44
has
47:45
to
47:45
be
47:45
in
47:45
a
47:45
way
47:46
that,
47:47
you
47:47
know,
47:47
damages
47:48
the
47:48
relationship.
47:48
Yeah.
47:49
Now,
47:50
I'm
47:51
sorry.
47:52
No.
47:52
I
47:52
was
47:53
just
47:53
gonna
47:53
mention
47:53
about
47:53
the
47:53
exposure
47:54
therapy.
47:55
When
47:56
I
47:56
was
47:56
young,
47:56
I.
47:57
My
47:57
dad.
47:58
I
47:59
can't
47:59
remember
47:59
how
47:59
he
48:00
found
48:00
out,
48:01
but
48:01
I
48:02
was
48:03
afraid
48:03
to
48:03
answer
48:03
the
48:03
phone
48:04
or
48:04
I
48:04
didn't
48:04
want
48:04
to
48:05
answer
48:05
the
48:05
phone
48:05
or
48:05
something
48:06
like
48:06
that.
48:07
And
48:07
he
48:07
was
48:07
just
48:08
like,
48:08
oh,
48:09
this
48:09
is
48:09
a
48:09
thing
48:09
that
48:10
you
48:10
have
48:11
a
48:11
hard
48:11
time
48:11
with.
48:12
So
48:12
you're
48:12
going
48:12
to
48:12
be
48:12
my
48:12
secretary
48:13
now?
48:14
Yeah.
48:15
I
48:15
feel
48:16
like
48:16
he
48:16
could
48:16
have.
48:17
I
48:17
feel
48:17
like
48:18
he
48:18
could
48:18
have
48:18
done
48:18
it
48:19
a
48:19
little
48:19
more
48:19
gently,
48:20
but
48:21
basically
48:21
he
48:22
just
48:22
gave
48:22
me
48:22
all
48:23
of
48:23
his,
48:23
like,
48:23
because
48:23
he
48:24
was
48:24
a
48:24
general
48:24
contractor,
48:25
and
48:25
it
48:25
was
48:25
my
48:25
job
48:25
to
48:26
suddenly
48:26
start
48:26
calling
48:27
and
48:28
setting
48:28
up
48:28
his
48:28
appointments,
48:29
and
48:29
he'd
48:30
come
48:30
out
48:30
to
48:30
do
48:30
an
48:31
estimate
48:31
and
48:31
stuff
48:31
like
48:32
that,
48:32
and
48:32
I
48:32
was
48:32
just
48:32
like.
48:33
It
48:34
was.
48:34
It
48:34
was
48:35
terrifying
48:35
for
48:36
me
48:36
at
48:36
the.
48:36
In
48:36
the
48:36
beginning,
48:37
but
48:37
now
48:37
it's
48:37
like,
48:38
hey,
48:38
yeah,
48:39
I
48:39
can
48:39
still,
48:39
like,
48:39
as
48:40
an
48:40
adult
48:40
to
48:40
this
48:41
day,
48:41
yes,
48:41
I
48:42
do
48:42
have
48:42
some
48:42
social
48:43
anxieties,
48:43
but
48:44
I
48:44
can
48:44
push
48:44
through
48:44
them.
48:45
That
48:45
is
48:45
hilarious
48:46
because
48:47
I,
48:47
I
48:47
had
48:47
the
48:47
same
48:48
thing
48:48
in,
48:48
like,
48:48
the
48:49
restaurant.
48:49
There
48:49
was
48:49
this
48:50
rule
48:50
where
48:51
the
48:51
phone
48:51
isn't
48:51
going
48:52
to.
48:52
Isn't
48:52
allowed
48:52
to
48:53
ring
48:53
more
48:53
than
48:53
twice.
48:54
And,
48:54
like,
48:54
it
48:54
wasn't
48:55
my
48:55
job
48:55
to
48:55
answer
48:55
the
48:55
phone.
48:56
So,
48:56
like,
48:56
I'd
48:56
always
48:56
be
48:57
like,
48:57
oh,
48:57
the
48:57
phone's
48:57
ringing.
48:57
I'm
48:58
gonna
48:58
run
48:58
this
48:58
way.
48:59
And
48:59
so
48:59
I
48:59
got
48:59
caught,
49:00
like,
49:00
you
49:00
know,
49:00
phone's
49:00
ringing
49:01
and
49:01
I'm
49:01
just
49:01
going,
49:01
la.
49:02
I'm
49:02
gonna
49:02
go
49:02
this
49:03
way.
49:03
And
49:03
they're
49:03
like,
49:03
no,
49:03
no,
49:04
no.
49:04
Answer
49:04
the
49:04
phone.
49:05
And
49:05
I
49:05
was
49:05
like,
49:05
I
49:05
don't.
49:05
I
49:05
don't
49:06
know
49:06
what
49:06
to
49:06
say.
49:06
I
49:06
don't
49:06
want
49:07
to.
49:07
Like,
49:07
it's
49:07
just
49:08
really
49:08
stressful.
49:08
I
49:08
don't
49:09
know.
49:10
And
49:11
it's
49:11
really
49:11
stressful.
49:12
And
49:12
so
49:12
I
49:12
was
49:13
a
49:13
smart
49:13
ass
49:13
and
49:13
I
49:14
answered
49:14
the
49:14
phone,
49:14
I
49:14
go,
49:14
buddy
49:15
the
49:15
elf,
49:15
what's
49:15
your
49:15
favorite
49:16
color?
49:17
And
49:17
then
49:17
that
49:17
didn't
49:17
fly
49:18
either.
49:18
So
49:18
then
49:18
they
49:18
never
49:19
made
49:19
me
49:19
answer
49:19
the
49:19
phone
49:20
again.
49:20
But.
49:23
I,
49:24
like,
49:24
whenever
49:25
I
49:25
get
49:25
a
49:25
scam
49:26
call,
49:26
my
49:26
favorite
49:27
is
49:27
welcome
49:28
to
49:29
Souls
49:30
because
49:30
that's
49:30
our
49:30
last
49:31
name.
49:33
Restaurant.
49:34
And
49:34
mortuary.
49:35
And
49:36
mortuary.
49:37
You
49:37
kill
49:38
them,
49:38
we
49:38
grill
49:39
them.
49:41
That's
49:41
something
49:41
my
49:42
dad
49:42
used
49:42
to
49:43
say.
49:43
That
49:43
was
49:43
one
49:44
of
49:44
the.
49:45
On
49:45
the
49:45
phone.
49:45
Oh,
49:46
my
49:46
God.
49:47
They
49:47
never
49:47
called
49:47
back.
49:48
But
49:48
also,
49:48
if
49:49
you're
49:50
text
49:50
before
49:50
you
49:51
call,
49:51
please
49:53
establish.
49:54
This
49:54
is
49:54
just
49:55
like
49:55
a,
49:55
a,
49:55
a
49:55
norm
49:56
now.
49:56
It
49:57
should
49:57
be.
49:57
Now
49:58
that
49:59
Ka.
49:59
Did
49:59
I
50:00
hear
50:00
you
50:00
say
50:00
earlier
50:00
that
50:01
you
50:01
and
50:01
your
50:01
husband
50:02
are
50:02
kind
50:03
of
50:03
on
50:03
different
50:04
ideals?
50:05
What
50:06
did
50:06
I
50:06
say?
50:07
Kaya?
50:07
Oh,
50:08
yeah.
50:09
Not
50:09
you,
50:09
Kaia.
50:09
I
50:09
mean,
50:10
I
50:10
hope
50:10
you're
50:11
not
50:11
married.
50:14
Totally
50:15
fair.
50:16
Totally
50:16
fair.
50:16
Now,
50:18
did
50:18
she
50:18
say
50:18
I
50:19
want
50:19
a
50:19
wife?
50:19
Yeah.
50:21
Okay.
50:22
I'm
50:22
so
50:22
sorry.
50:22
I
50:22
did
50:23
not
50:23
have
50:23
to
50:23
push
50:23
a.
50:23
Husband
50:24
on
50:24
you,
50:24
but
50:25
please
50:25
do
50:25
not
50:25
decide
50:26
to
50:26
get
50:26
married
50:26
right
50:26
now
50:27
because
50:27
that's.
50:28
It's
50:28
not
50:28
fun.
50:29
Yeah,
50:30
no.
50:30
She's
50:30
not
50:30
allowed
50:31
to
50:31
get
50:31
married
50:31
till
50:31
30.
50:32
And
50:32
I've
50:32
told
50:32
either
50:32
of
50:32
them
50:32
if
50:33
I'm
50:33
a
50:33
grandmother
50:33
before,
50:34
like
50:34
55,
50:34
they
50:34
did
50:35
something.
50:35
I
50:35
support
50:35
this.
50:38
Perfect.
50:38
Okay,
50:39
so,
50:39
Sam,
50:40
did
50:40
I
50:40
hear
50:41
you
50:41
correctly
50:41
earlier
50:42
when
50:42
you
50:42
said
50:42
that
50:42
your
50:42
husband's
50:43
not
50:43
100%
50:44
on
50:44
board
50:44
with
50:44
the
50:44
unschooling?
50:45
So
50:45
what
50:46
does
50:46
that
50:46
look
50:46
like?
50:47
He
50:47
wasn't
50:47
in
50:47
the
50:47
beginning.
50:48
Absolutely
50:49
was
50:49
not.
50:50
He
50:50
was
50:51
so
50:51
terrified.
50:52
And
50:53
I
50:53
think
50:53
it's
50:53
a
50:53
little
50:54
different
50:54
too.
50:54
Like,
50:55
so
50:56
my
50:56
parents
50:56
are
50:56
80s
50:57
kids.
50:57
Like,
50:58
they're.
50:59
They
50:59
had
50:59
me
50:59
young.
51:00
I.
51:00
I
51:00
had
51:00
my
51:01
kids
51:01
young.
51:01
So
51:01
my,
51:01
my
51:01
parents
51:02
are
51:02
like
51:03
80s
51:03
kids.
51:04
And
51:04
my
51:04
husband's
51:05
parents
51:05
are
51:05
a
51:05
lot
51:06
older,
51:06
so,
51:07
like,
51:07
they're
51:07
in
51:07
their
51:07
70s
51:08
and
51:08
80s,
51:09
so
51:10
he
51:10
was
51:10
raised
51:11
very
51:11
Differently.
51:12
And
51:13
so
51:13
he
51:14
loved
51:14
school.
51:15
There's
51:16
a
51:16
lot
51:16
more
51:16
to
51:16
that
51:17
story.
51:17
But
51:17
he
51:17
loved
51:18
school.
51:19
And
51:20
so
51:20
I
51:20
think
51:21
one
51:21
of
51:21
the
51:21
things
51:21
he
51:21
was
51:21
really
51:22
afraid
51:22
of
51:22
in
51:22
the
51:22
situation
51:23
was
51:23
like,
51:23
we
51:23
were
51:24
taking
51:24
that
51:24
experience
51:24
away
51:25
from
51:25
them,
51:26
but
51:26
it
51:26
took
51:27
him
51:27
honestly,
51:27
two
51:27
or
51:28
three
51:28
years,
51:28
like,
51:29
of
51:29
like
51:29
every
51:30
time
51:30
I
51:30
turned
51:30
around.
51:30
Are
51:31
they
51:31
going
51:31
to
51:31
go
51:31
back
51:31
to
51:31
public
51:31
school?
51:32
When
51:32
are
51:32
they
51:32
going
51:32
back
51:33
to
51:33
school?
51:33
Like,
51:34
interesting.
51:35
And
51:35
then
51:35
we
51:36
gave
51:36
them.
51:37
Was
51:37
about
51:38
two
51:38
years
51:39
in
51:39
two
51:39
and
51:39
a
51:39
half
51:40
years.
51:40
And
51:40
we
51:40
gave
51:41
them
51:41
a
51:41
standardized
51:41
test
51:42
because
51:42
that
51:42
was
51:42
the
51:42
rule
51:43
in
51:43
Maryland.
51:43
They
51:43
had
51:43
to
51:44
take
51:44
a
51:44
standardized
51:45
test
51:45
every
51:45
couple
51:45
of
51:45
years.
51:47
And
51:47
we
51:48
gave
51:48
it
51:48
to
51:48
them,
51:49
and
51:51
they
51:51
just
51:51
did
51:52
so
51:52
well.
51:52
Like,
51:53
I
51:53
think
51:53
that
51:53
was
51:53
kind
51:54
of
51:54
his
51:54
moment
51:54
where
51:55
it
51:55
was
51:55
like,
51:56
okay,
51:56
well,
51:56
this
51:57
might
51:57
be
51:57
different,
51:59
but
51:59
it
51:59
is
51:59
working.
52:00
And
52:00
then
52:01
he's
52:02
recently.
52:02
And
52:02
honestly,
52:03
I
52:03
think
52:03
in
52:03
the
52:03
last
52:04
year
52:04
sounds
52:05
crazy.
52:05
Like,
52:05
we've
52:05
been
52:05
doing
52:06
this
52:06
since
52:06
2000.
52:06
But
52:07
yeah,
52:07
he.
52:08
Or
52:08
yeah.
52:09
20.
52:09
20.
52:10
Oh,
52:11
I
52:11
was
52:11
doing
52:11
that
52:12
the
52:12
other.
52:12
The
52:13
other
52:13
month.
52:13
I
52:14
was
52:14
saying
52:14
1999
52:15
or
52:15
I
52:15
was
52:16
trying
52:16
to
52:16
say
52:16
99.
52:16
And
52:16
I
52:17
kept
52:17
saying,
52:17
it
52:18
doesn't
52:18
matter.
52:18
Anyway,
52:20
so
52:20
he
52:20
was
52:21
very
52:21
like,
52:21
like,
52:22
honestly,
52:22
like,
52:22
he
52:23
pushed.
52:23
And
52:24
then
52:25
as
52:25
our
52:25
son
52:26
started
52:26
to
52:27
do
52:28
better
52:28
because
52:29
we
52:29
had
52:30
that
52:30
space
52:30
to,
52:32
you
52:32
know,
52:32
allow
52:32
him
52:33
when
52:33
he
52:33
was
52:33
having
52:33
an
52:34
outburst,
52:34
to
52:35
regulate
52:35
like
52:36
we
52:36
were.
52:36
We
52:36
were.
52:36
Because
52:37
I
52:37
always.
52:37
I've
52:37
always
52:37
told
52:37
him,
52:38
I
52:38
was
52:38
like,
52:39
I
52:39
would
52:39
rather.
52:41
I
52:41
would
52:42
rather
52:42
my
52:42
kids
52:42
be
52:43
behind
52:43
in
52:43
education
52:45
and
52:45
mentally
52:46
and
52:46
emotionally
52:47
be
52:48
able
52:48
to
52:48
do
52:48
their
52:48
life.
52:49
Life,
52:49
like,
52:49
Right.
52:50
That's
52:50
more
52:50
important
52:51
to
52:51
me
52:51
because
52:51
we
52:51
can
52:51
always
52:52
catch
52:52
up.
52:52
But
52:53
it's.
52:54
Personally,
52:54
I
52:54
know
52:54
how
52:55
hard
52:55
it
52:55
is
52:55
to
52:55
go
52:55
through
52:55
seven
52:56
years
52:56
of,
52:56
like,
52:57
trying
52:57
to
52:57
process
52:57
everything.
52:58
And
52:58
so
52:59
that
52:59
was
52:59
never
52:59
something
52:59
I
52:59
wanted
53:00
for
53:00
them.
53:00
And
53:00
so
53:01
as
53:01
he
53:01
started
53:02
to,
53:02
like,
53:02
notice
53:03
now
53:04
he's
53:04
a
53:04
huge
53:04
advocate
53:05
for
53:05
it.
53:05
Like,
53:06
my.
53:07
We
53:08
have
53:08
a.
53:08
A
53:08
nephew
53:09
that
53:09
they're
53:09
having
53:10
some
53:10
trouble.
53:10
And
53:10
they.
53:11
They
53:11
were
53:11
called
53:11
us,
53:12
like,
53:12
I
53:12
would
53:12
never
53:12
forget.
53:13
They
53:13
told
53:13
me
53:13
we
53:13
were
53:13
going
53:13
to
53:13
ruin
53:14
our
53:14
kids
53:14
by
53:14
homeschooling.
53:15
They
53:15
told
53:16
you
53:16
that,
53:16
too?
53:16
And
53:17
now.
53:17
Wow.
53:18
Yeah.
53:18
They.
53:19
Now
53:19
they're
53:20
asking
53:20
us
53:20
about
53:20
homeschooling
53:21
because
53:22
their
53:22
son
53:22
is
53:22
struggling
53:23
in
53:23
high
53:23
school.
53:24
Yeah.
53:24
And
53:25
so
53:26
now
53:26
he's
53:27
like.
53:28
He's
53:28
probably
53:28
still
53:29
not
53:29
as,
53:29
like,
53:30
involved
53:31
as
53:31
I
53:31
am.
53:32
He
53:32
had.
53:32
Definitely
53:33
has
53:33
his.
53:34
His
53:34
things,
53:34
but
53:35
he
53:36
loves
53:37
that
53:37
they're
53:38
learning
53:38
what
53:38
they're
53:38
interested
53:39
in.
53:39
It
53:39
makes
53:39
so
53:39
much
53:39
more
53:40
sense
53:40
to
53:40
him
53:40
now.
53:41
Right.
53:41
Yeah.
53:41
So
53:42
I
53:42
think
53:42
it's
53:43
about
53:43
letting
53:44
people
53:45
see
53:47
the
53:47
results.
53:48
Yeah.
53:49
And
53:49
also
53:50
recognizing
53:50
the
53:50
results
53:51
are
53:51
not
53:51
always
53:51
academic.
53:52
Like,
53:52
you
53:53
know,
53:54
my
53:54
My
53:54
son
53:55
being
53:55
able.
53:55
When
53:56
he
53:56
left
53:56
kindergarten,
53:56
he
53:56
was
53:57
having
53:57
a
53:57
hard
53:57
time
53:57
even
53:57
holding
53:58
friends.
53:58
Okay.
53:59
And
53:59
now
54:00
the
54:00
biggest
54:01
issue
54:01
we
54:01
have
54:01
is
54:02
He's
54:02
a
54:02
normal
54:03
11
54:03
year
54:03
old
54:04
boy.
54:04
And
54:04
if
54:04
you
54:04
like
54:05
astrology,
54:05
he's
54:05
an
54:05
Aries
54:06
too.
54:06
So
54:08
he,
54:08
he
54:09
has
54:09
a
54:09
temper.
54:09
So
54:09
that's
54:10
like
54:10
our
54:10
biggest
54:10
issue
54:10
right
54:11
now
54:11
is
54:11
he's
54:11
an
54:11
11
54:12
year
54:12
old
54:12
boy
54:12
with
54:12
a
54:12
temper.
54:13
And
54:13
so,
54:14
you
54:14
know,
54:14
we're
54:14
working
54:15
on
54:15
that
54:15
one.
54:15
Yeah.
54:16
But,
54:16
you
54:16
know,
54:16
he's.
54:17
He's
54:17
got
54:17
friends
54:18
and
54:19
most
54:19
of
54:19
the
54:19
time
54:19
he
54:19
can
54:20
regulate
54:20
himself.
54:20
And
54:21
I
54:21
joke
54:21
all
54:21
the
54:21
time.
54:22
He's
54:22
got
54:22
a
54:22
bigger
54:22
IQ
54:23
EQ
54:24
than
54:24
most
54:24
adults,
54:26
so,
54:26
you
54:26
know,
54:27
he
54:27
can
54:27
literally
54:27
sit
54:27
and
54:28
be
54:28
like,
54:29
dad,
54:29
I
54:29
can
54:29
see
54:29
you're
54:30
having
54:30
a
54:30
hard
54:30
time.
54:31
Oh.
54:33
So.
54:33
And,
54:34
you
54:34
know,
54:34
I
54:34
think
54:35
it's
54:35
a
54:35
combination
54:36
of
54:36
like,
54:37
trusting
54:37
the
54:37
process
54:38
and
54:38
then
54:38
him
54:38
seeing
54:39
some
54:39
of
54:39
the
54:39
results.
54:40
And
54:40
now
54:40
he's
54:40
like,
54:40
I
54:41
get
54:41
it.
54:41
So
54:42
you
54:42
and
54:42
your
54:42
husband
54:42
have
54:43
like
54:43
an
54:43
agreed
54:44
upon
54:44
time
54:44
of
54:44
like,
54:45
hey,
54:45
give
54:45
me
54:46
two
54:46
years
54:47
or
54:47
give
54:47
me
54:47
a
54:47
year.
54:48
And
54:48
if
54:48
you
54:49
agree
54:49
that
54:49
you
54:50
see,
54:50
like
54:50
positive
54:50
results,
54:51
then
54:51
like,
54:51
let's
54:52
keep
54:52
trying
54:52
it.
54:52
Or
54:53
originally
54:54
it
54:54
was
54:54
just
54:54
the
54:54
first
54:55
year.
54:55
Okay.
54:56
Like
54:56
I
54:56
said,
54:57
she's
54:57
got
54:57
a
54:57
super
54:57
late
54:58
birthday.
54:58
She's
54:59
an
54:59
August
55:00
kid,
55:00
so
55:01
she's
55:01
got
55:01
a
55:01
really
55:01
late
55:01
birthday.
55:02
And
55:02
then
55:02
Tayton,
55:03
you
55:03
know,
55:03
being
55:03
April
55:04
and
55:05
also
55:05
being
55:05
adhd,
55:06
knowing
55:06
he's
55:06
a
55:06
little
55:06
bit
55:07
behind,
55:07
like,
55:07
executive
55:08
functioning
55:09
wise.
55:09
Yeah.
55:10
We
55:10
were
55:10
like,
55:10
you
55:10
know,
55:10
it
55:10
wouldn't
55:11
hurt.
55:11
And
55:12
then,
55:13
I
55:13
mean,
55:13
even
55:13
after
55:13
the
55:14
first
55:14
year,
55:14
he
55:14
was
55:14
like,
55:15
he
55:15
didn't.
55:16
I
55:16
don't
55:16
know
55:16
if
55:16
he
55:16
loved
55:17
the
55:17
idea,
55:17
but
55:17
he
55:17
didn't
55:18
fight
55:18
me.
55:18
Like,
55:19
he
55:19
was.
55:21
They
55:21
were.
55:22
Yeah,
55:22
he
55:22
was
55:22
growing.
55:23
Yes.
55:23
And
55:24
so
55:25
by
55:25
the
55:25
second
55:25
year,
55:26
again,
55:27
I
55:27
still
55:27
don't
55:27
think
55:27
it
55:28
was
55:28
his
55:28
first
55:28
choice,
55:29
but
55:29
he
55:29
was
55:29
like,
55:30
all
55:30
right,
55:30
well,
55:30
whatever
55:31
we're
55:31
doing,
55:31
at
55:31
least
55:31
we're
55:31
not
55:31
going
55:32
to
55:32
ruin
55:32
him.
55:33
I
55:33
mean,
55:33
it's
55:33
hard.
55:33
Like,
55:34
you're,
55:34
it's
55:34
ingrained.
55:35
Like,
55:35
it's
55:36
scary.
55:36
And
55:36
so,
55:37
like,
55:37
it's
55:37
gonna
55:37
be
55:38
hard
55:38
to.
55:38
When
55:39
you're
55:39
told
55:40
no
55:41
homeschooling
55:42
or
55:42
against.
55:42
The
55:43
grain,
55:43
it's
55:43
bad.
55:44
Yeah.
55:44
Yeah.
55:45
Going
55:45
against
55:45
the
55:45
grain,
55:46
doing
55:46
anything
55:47
that's.
55:47
Outside
55:47
of
55:47
the
55:47
normal
55:48
is
55:48
terrifying.
55:48
Yeah.
55:49
And,
55:50
you
55:50
know,
55:51
so
55:51
kudos
55:51
to
55:51
him,
55:52
right?
55:52
Yeah.
55:52
Yeah.
55:53
And
55:53
he's
55:53
very.
55:55
He's.
55:56
He
55:56
doesn't
55:56
do
55:57
spreadsheets
55:57
for
55:57
fun,
55:58
but
55:58
I
55:58
think
55:58
he
55:58
would
55:59
enjoy
55:59
doing
55:59
spreadsheets
56:00
for
56:00
fun
56:00
if
56:00
he
56:01
ever
56:01
got
56:01
into
56:01
it.
56:02
Gotcha.
56:02
He's
56:02
a
56:02
hunter
56:03
and
56:03
a
56:03
fisher
56:03
and
56:04
like
56:04
that
56:04
whole,
56:05
like,
56:05
process
56:06
of,
56:06
like
56:08
doing
56:08
something
56:08
in
56:08
A
56:09
certain
56:09
way,
56:09
like,
56:10
makes
56:10
him
56:10
very
56:10
excited.
56:11
So
56:12
I'll
56:12
teach
56:12
you
56:12
how
56:12
to
56:13
make
56:13
spreadsheets.
56:16
So.
56:16
Yeah.
56:17
So
56:17
again,
56:17
he
56:18
didn't
56:18
love
56:18
it.
56:19
I
56:19
would
56:19
never
56:19
tell
56:20
you,
56:20
like,
56:20
if
56:20
you're.
56:20
If
56:21
your
56:22
is,
56:22
like,
56:22
totally,
56:23
absolutely
56:24
against
56:24
it,
56:24
like,
56:25
you
56:26
know,
56:26
see
56:26
what
56:27
you
56:27
can
56:27
do.
56:27
Like,
56:27
take
56:27
them.
56:28
We
56:28
went
56:28
to
56:29
a
56:29
homeschool
56:29
convention
56:29
last
56:30
year
56:30
with
56:30
me.
56:31
Love
56:32
that
56:32
too.
56:32
Like,
56:33
I
56:33
think
56:33
that
56:33
was
56:33
even
56:33
just
56:34
another.
56:34
He
56:34
was
56:35
already
56:35
on
56:35
board,
56:35
but,
56:36
like,
56:36
it
56:36
was,
56:37
like,
56:37
eye
56:37
opening.
56:38
Like,
56:38
these
56:38
kids
56:38
are
56:38
smart,
56:39
they're
56:39
articulate.
56:40
Like,
56:40
there's
56:41
that
56:41
old,
56:41
like,
56:42
you
56:43
know,
56:44
stereotype
56:44
that
56:44
homeschool
56:45
kids
56:45
are
56:45
weird
56:45
and
56:46
they
56:46
are,
56:46
like,
56:47
we're
56:48
all
56:48
weird.
56:49
And
56:49
they,
56:50
like.
56:50
I
56:50
think
56:51
it's
56:51
like,
56:51
I
56:51
always.
56:51
I
56:52
think
56:52
it's
56:52
the
56:52
weird
56:52
and,
56:53
like,
56:53
they
56:53
don't
56:53
have
56:53
to
56:53
conform.
56:54
Right.
56:55
Yeah.
56:55
That
56:55
makes
56:55
sense.
56:56
Outside
56:56
the
56:57
box.
56:57
And
56:57
it's
56:57
okay.
56:58
Yeah.
56:58
Yeah.
56:59
So
57:00
now
57:00
you
57:00
are.
57:01
You
57:01
coach
57:01
people
57:02
on.
57:02
How
57:03
to.
57:03
What
57:03
specifically
57:04
are
57:04
you
57:04
coaching
57:04
people
57:05
on?
57:06
So
57:06
I
57:07
work
57:07
for
57:07
a
57:07
company.
57:08
They're
57:08
unfortunately
57:09
not
57:09
in
57:09
Georgia,
57:09
but
57:09
it's
57:10
a.
57:10
It's
57:10
a
57:10
healthcare
57:10
company
57:11
that
57:11
specializes
57:12
in
57:12
pediatric
57:13
OCD
57:13
and
57:13
anxiety.
57:15
So
57:15
we
57:15
take
57:15
kids
57:16
that,
57:16
you
57:17
know,
57:17
everything
57:18
from
57:19
mild
57:19
worries
57:20
to
57:21
refusing
57:21
to
57:21
go
57:21
to
57:21
school.
57:22
Okay.
57:23
And,
57:24
you
57:24
know,
57:24
kids
57:25
that
57:25
aren't
57:25
leaving
57:26
the
57:26
house
57:26
or,
57:26
like,
57:26
their
57:27
parents
57:27
can't
57:27
even
57:27
leave
57:28
for
57:29
five
57:29
minutes
57:30
or
57:30
be
57:30
out
57:30
of
57:30
their
57:30
sight.
57:31
Like,
57:31
we
57:31
take
57:31
those
57:31
kids.
57:32
Oh,
57:32
wow.
57:33
And
57:34
so
57:34
I
57:34
started
57:35
that
57:35
a
57:35
couple
57:35
of
57:35
years
57:35
ago,
57:36
and
57:36
this.
57:37
Sorry,
57:37
real
57:37
quick.
57:37
Is
57:38
something
57:38
that
57:38
insurance
57:38
would
57:39
cover.
57:39
It
57:39
is.
57:40
Yeah.
57:40
So
57:40
they
57:40
work
57:40
with
57:41
insurance.
57:41
I
57:41
cannot
57:42
wait
57:42
for
57:42
them
57:42
to
57:42
get
57:42
to
57:42
Georgia
57:43
so
57:43
that.
57:45
I
57:45
just
57:46
can
57:46
think
57:46
of
57:46
so
57:46
many
57:46
people
57:47
that
57:47
would
57:47
benefit
57:47
from
57:48
the
57:48
program
57:48
here.
57:48
Yeah.
57:49
And
57:49
it's.
57:49
It's
57:50
a
57:50
unique
57:50
model
57:50
because
57:51
we
57:51
work
57:51
with
57:51
a
57:51
therapist
57:52
and
57:52
then
57:52
we
57:52
coach,
57:53
and
57:53
then
57:53
there's
57:53
a
57:53
psychiatrist.
57:55
So
57:55
if
57:56
they
57:56
choose
57:56
medication
57:57
management,
57:57
we
57:57
have
57:57
it.
57:58
But
57:58
we
57:58
also
57:58
have
57:58
a
57:58
therapist
57:59
who's
57:59
doing
57:59
kind
58:00
of
58:00
the
58:00
heavy
58:00
work.
58:01
But
58:01
as
58:01
a
58:01
coach,
58:02
what
58:02
I
58:02
love
58:02
about
58:03
coaching
58:03
is
58:03
I'm
58:04
not
58:04
focused
58:05
on,
58:05
you
58:05
know,
58:06
what
58:06
happened
58:06
to
58:06
you
58:06
in
58:07
your
58:07
childhood.
58:08
What
58:08
I'm
58:09
focused
58:09
on
58:09
is
58:11
the
58:11
things
58:11
that
58:11
you're
58:11
good
58:11
at.
58:12
What
58:12
are
58:12
your
58:12
skills?
58:13
What
58:13
can
58:13
we
58:13
use
58:13
to
58:13
motivate
58:14
you?
58:14
What
58:14
are
58:14
your
58:15
goals?
58:15
How
58:16
do
58:16
we
58:16
get
58:16
you
58:16
from
58:16
A
58:17
to
58:17
B?
58:17
Okay.
58:18
You
58:18
know,
58:19
got
58:19
a
58:19
kid
58:20
right
58:20
now
58:20
that's
58:20
refusing
58:21
school.
58:22
Well,
58:22
our
58:22
goal
58:23
right
58:23
now
58:23
is
58:23
she
58:24
wants
58:24
to
58:24
play
58:24
soccer
58:24
at
58:24
recess
58:25
with
58:25
her
58:25
friends.
58:25
Yeah.
58:27
I
58:27
don't
58:27
know
58:27
if
58:27
she
58:27
could
58:28
really
58:28
care
58:28
about
58:28
going
58:28
to
58:28
school,
58:29
but
58:29
they're
58:29
getting
58:30
to
58:30
school
58:30
because
58:31
she
58:31
wants
58:31
to
58:31
play
58:31
with
58:32
her
58:32
friends.
58:32
That's
58:33
the
58:33
goal,
58:33
what
58:33
motivates
58:34
you?
58:35
And
58:36
as
58:37
a
58:37
coach,
58:37
what
58:37
I
58:37
love
58:38
is
58:39
being
58:39
able
58:39
to
58:39
focus
58:40
on
58:40
their
58:40
strengths
58:40
as
58:41
opposed
58:41
to
58:41
their
58:41
deficits.
58:42
Right.
58:43
Because
58:43
I
58:43
think
58:43
it's
58:44
so
58:44
super
58:44
important.
58:45
I
58:45
am.
58:47
I'm
58:47
the
58:47
type
58:47
of
58:47
person
58:48
that,
58:49
you
58:50
know,
58:50
I
58:50
think
58:51
differently,
58:51
but
58:52
it
58:52
also
58:52
allows
58:52
me
58:53
to,
58:53
like,
58:53
see
58:54
things
58:54
in
58:54
my
58:54
kids
58:54
that
58:55
nobody
58:55
else
58:55
was
58:55
picking
58:55
up
58:56
on.
58:56
Yeah.
58:57
You
58:57
know,
58:57
it's
58:57
an
58:57
ADHD
58:58
tree.
58:58
Like,
58:59
being
58:59
able
58:59
to
59:00
be
59:01
super
59:01
creative
59:02
in
59:02
how
59:02
we're
59:03
going
59:03
to
59:03
approach
59:03
exposures
59:04
or,
59:05
you
59:05
know,
59:06
creating
59:06
the
59:06
exposures.
59:07
I'll
59:07
never
59:07
forget
59:08
one
59:08
of
59:08
my
59:08
favorite
59:08
ones
59:08
ever.
59:09
I
59:09
had
59:09
a
59:09
kid
59:10
call
59:10
Barnes
59:11
and
59:11
Noble
59:11
and
59:12
ask
59:12
for
59:12
them
59:12
to
59:12
deliver
59:12
a
59:13
pizza.
59:15
It
59:16
was
59:16
the
59:16
best
59:16
thing
59:17
ever
59:17
because
59:17
this
59:18
kid
59:18
was
59:18
so
59:18
terrified
59:19
of
59:19
it.
59:20
And
59:21
the
59:22
person
59:22
on
59:22
the
59:22
other
59:22
line
59:23
was
59:23
like,
59:24
you
59:24
know,
59:24
we
59:25
don't
59:25
do
59:25
pizza.
59:26
But
59:26
what.
59:27
I
59:27
hope
59:27
you
59:27
find
59:27
it,
59:27
because
59:28
that
59:28
sounds
59:28
delicious.
59:29
Oh,
59:29
that
59:29
is
59:29
so
59:30
sweet.
59:30
Wait,
59:30
was
59:30
this
59:31
on
59:31
purpose
59:31
or
59:32
like.
59:32
Yeah,
59:32
it
59:32
was
59:32
on
59:33
purpose.
59:33
So,
59:33
I
59:33
mean,
59:33
exposures.
59:34
That's
59:34
what
59:34
it
59:34
is.
59:34
Sometimes
59:35
we
59:35
have
59:35
them.
59:35
Do
59:36
we.
59:36
We
59:36
help
59:37
face.
59:37
You
59:37
know,
59:38
with
59:38
anxiety,
59:38
the
59:39
goal
59:39
is
59:39
never
59:39
to
59:39
get
59:39
rid
59:40
of
59:40
it.
59:40
Like,
59:40
anxiety
59:41
is
59:41
there.
59:41
It
59:41
serves
59:42
a
59:42
natural
59:42
function
59:43
of
59:44
keeping
59:45
you
59:45
safe.
59:45
Yeah.
59:46
So
59:46
anxiety
59:46
is
59:46
the
59:47
thing
59:47
that
59:47
keeps
59:47
you
59:47
from
59:48
walking
59:48
out
59:48
in
59:48
traffic.
59:48
Yeah.
59:49
But
59:49
it
59:49
kind
59:50
of
59:50
just
59:50
goes
59:50
into
59:50
high
59:50
gear
59:51
sometimes.
59:51
And
59:51
so
59:51
what
59:51
we're
59:52
teaching
59:52
our
59:52
kids
59:52
is
59:53
anxiety
59:54
doesn't
59:54
always
59:54
go
59:54
away.
59:55
It's
59:56
just
59:57
we
59:57
learn
59:58
that
59:58
our
59:58
brain
59:58
kind
59:59
of,
59:59
like,
59:59
is
59:59
trying
59:59
to
59:59
keep
1:00:00
us
1:00:00
safe.
1:00:00
That
1:00:00
it's
1:00:00
kind
1:00:00
of
1:00:00
a
1:00:01
liar.
1:00:01
Yeah.
1:00:02
And
1:00:03
we
1:00:03
need
1:00:04
to
1:00:04
work
1:00:04
on
1:00:04
doing
1:00:05
the
1:00:05
thing
1:00:05
anyway,
1:00:05
so
1:00:05
we
1:00:06
start
1:00:06
really
1:00:06
low.
1:00:06
So,
1:00:06
like,
1:00:07
with
1:00:07
your
1:00:07
fear
1:00:07
of
1:00:08
the
1:00:08
telephone.
1:00:08
Yeah.
1:00:09
It
1:00:09
probably
1:00:09
would
1:00:10
have
1:00:10
been
1:00:10
like,
1:00:10
hey,
1:00:11
I'm
1:00:11
going
1:00:11
to
1:00:11
have
1:00:11
you
1:00:11
answer
1:00:11
my
1:00:12
emails.
1:00:12
That
1:00:12
would
1:00:13
have
1:00:13
been
1:00:13
amazing.
1:00:13
And
1:00:13
then
1:00:14
they
1:00:14
had
1:00:14
emails.
1:00:14
When
1:00:15
that's
1:00:15
feeling
1:00:15
more
1:00:15
comfortable,
1:00:16
I'm
1:00:17
going
1:00:17
to
1:00:17
have
1:00:17
you
1:00:17
come
1:00:17
in
1:00:18
and
1:00:18
answer
1:00:19
two
1:00:19
phone
1:00:19
calls.
1:00:20
Yeah.
1:00:20
Or,
1:00:20
you
1:00:21
know,
1:00:21
like,
1:00:21
we
1:00:21
would
1:00:21
have.
1:00:22
I
1:00:22
would
1:00:22
have
1:00:23
loved
1:00:23
that.
1:00:23
I
1:00:23
would
1:00:24
have
1:00:24
been
1:00:24
like.
1:00:26
But
1:00:26
I
1:00:27
love
1:00:27
it.
1:00:27
And
1:00:28
I
1:00:28
love
1:00:28
being
1:00:28
able
1:00:29
to,
1:00:29
like,
1:00:30
bring
1:00:30
the
1:00:30
parents
1:00:31
in
1:00:32
because
1:00:32
I
1:00:33
remember
1:00:33
what
1:00:33
it
1:00:33
was
1:00:33
like
1:00:34
to
1:00:34
be
1:00:34
that
1:00:34
parent
1:00:34
that
1:00:34
was
1:00:35
just
1:00:35
like,
1:00:35
I
1:00:35
have
1:00:35
no
1:00:36
idea
1:00:36
what
1:00:36
I'm
1:00:36
doing.
1:00:36
Like,
1:00:37
my
1:00:37
kid
1:00:37
is
1:00:37
different.
1:00:38
Nobody's
1:00:38
telling
1:00:39
me
1:00:39
how
1:00:39
to.
1:00:40
How
1:00:40
to
1:00:40
work.
1:00:41
How
1:00:41
to
1:00:41
fix
1:00:42
him.
1:00:42
But
1:00:42
I
1:00:42
hate
1:00:42
that
1:00:42
word
1:00:43
because
1:00:43
we
1:00:43
don't
1:00:43
fix
1:00:43
kids.
1:00:44
Right.
1:00:44
But,
1:00:45
like,
1:00:45
how
1:00:45
to
1:00:46
work
1:00:46
with
1:00:46
them.
1:00:46
Yeah.
1:00:46
I
1:00:46
don't
1:00:47
know
1:00:47
what
1:00:47
I'm
1:00:47
doing
1:00:47
with
1:00:47
him.
1:00:48
And,
1:00:49
you
1:00:49
know,
1:00:49
can
1:00:50
I
1:00:50
just
1:00:50
really.
1:00:50
Quickly
1:00:51
go
1:00:51
back
1:00:51
to
1:00:51
the
1:00:51
Barnes
1:00:52
and
1:00:52
Noble
1:00:52
things?
1:00:53
Sorry.
1:00:53
Because
1:00:53
I
1:00:54
don't
1:00:54
understand
1:00:54
it.
1:00:55
Can
1:00:56
we
1:00:56
talk
1:00:56
about
1:00:56
pizza
1:00:57
from
1:00:57
a
1:00:57
book
1:00:57
story?
1:01:00
So
1:01:00
you're
1:01:01
trying
1:01:01
to
1:01:01
give,
1:01:01
like,
1:01:01
a
1:01:02
wacky
1:01:02
thing
1:01:03
that
1:01:03
would
1:01:04
have
1:01:04
no
1:01:04
ill
1:01:05
consequences
1:01:05
is
1:01:05
what
1:01:06
it
1:01:06
was.
1:01:06
Exactly.
1:01:06
So
1:01:07
social
1:01:07
anxiety
1:01:08
is
1:01:08
a
1:01:08
lot
1:01:08
of
1:01:08
times,
1:01:08
like,
1:01:09
the
1:01:09
fear.
1:01:09
Well,
1:01:09
anxiety
1:01:09
in
1:01:10
general
1:01:10
is
1:01:10
the
1:01:10
fear
1:01:10
of
1:01:11
an
1:01:11
unknown.
1:01:13
Of
1:01:13
an
1:01:14
unknown
1:01:14
future.
1:01:14
Like,
1:01:14
we
1:01:15
don't
1:01:15
know
1:01:15
how
1:01:15
it's
1:01:15
going
1:01:15
to
1:01:16
go.
1:01:16
So,
1:01:16
you
1:01:16
know,
1:01:17
we
1:01:17
think
1:01:17
about
1:01:17
these
1:01:17
things.
1:01:18
I
1:01:18
mean,
1:01:18
don't
1:01:18
get
1:01:18
me
1:01:18
wrong,
1:01:19
I
1:01:19
don't
1:01:19
know
1:01:19
if
1:01:19
I
1:01:19
would
1:01:19
love
1:01:19
doing
1:01:20
that
1:01:20
one
1:01:20
either.
1:01:20
Sure.
1:01:21
But,
1:01:21
like,
1:01:22
we
1:01:22
don't
1:01:22
think
1:01:23
about
1:01:23
things
1:01:23
like,
1:01:26
you
1:01:26
know,
1:01:26
we
1:01:26
think,
1:01:27
oh,
1:01:27
they're
1:01:27
gonna.
1:01:27
What,
1:01:28
they're
1:01:28
gonna
1:01:28
hate
1:01:28
me.
1:01:28
Yeah.
1:01:29
Like,
1:01:29
they're
1:01:29
gonna
1:01:29
yell
1:01:30
at
1:01:30
me.
1:01:30
And
1:01:31
so
1:01:31
what
1:01:31
exposure
1:01:32
therapy
1:01:32
does
1:01:32
is
1:01:32
it
1:01:33
teaches
1:01:33
you
1:01:33
that
1:01:33
typically
1:01:34
your
1:01:34
worst
1:01:35
case
1:01:35
scenario
1:01:35
is
1:01:36
not
1:01:36
gonna
1:01:36
happen.
1:01:38
And
1:01:38
occasionally
1:01:38
it
1:01:39
will,
1:01:39
and
1:01:40
it's
1:01:40
okay
1:01:40
because
1:01:40
you'll
1:01:41
be
1:01:41
able
1:01:41
to
1:01:41
do
1:01:41
okay
1:01:41
with.
1:01:41
You'll
1:01:42
be
1:01:42
fine.
1:01:42
Okay.
1:01:43
So
1:01:44
it
1:01:44
just
1:01:44
kind
1:01:44
of.
1:01:44
It's
1:01:44
like
1:01:45
that's.
1:01:45
Yeah.
1:01:46
It's
1:01:46
reducing
1:01:46
the
1:01:47
stimuli
1:01:47
or
1:01:47
what?
1:01:47
Okay.
1:01:48
So.
1:01:50
But
1:01:50
yeah,
1:01:51
no,
1:01:51
that
1:01:51
is
1:01:51
so
1:01:52
interesting.
1:01:52
I
1:01:52
love
1:01:52
it.
1:01:53
Yeah.
1:01:54
This.
1:01:56
This
1:01:56
is.
1:01:57
I
1:01:57
think
1:01:57
this
1:01:57
will
1:01:57
be
1:01:57
really
1:01:58
helpful
1:01:58
for
1:01:58
a
1:01:58
lot
1:01:58
of
1:01:58
people
1:01:59
because
1:01:59
as
1:02:00
parents,
1:02:00
we're
1:02:00
always
1:02:01
like,
1:02:01
oh,
1:02:01
are
1:02:02
we
1:02:02
doing
1:02:02
something
1:02:02
right
1:02:02
or
1:02:03
doing
1:02:03
something
1:02:03
wrong?
1:02:03
And.
1:02:04
And
1:02:04
there's
1:02:05
not
1:02:05
really
1:02:06
a
1:02:06
perfect
1:02:06
answer.
1:02:07
And
1:02:07
what
1:02:08
you're
1:02:08
sharing
1:02:09
is
1:02:09
that
1:02:09
there
1:02:10
doesn't
1:02:10
have
1:02:10
to
1:02:10
be
1:02:11
a
1:02:11
perfect
1:02:11
answer.
1:02:12
The
1:02:12
answer
1:02:13
is
1:02:14
figuring
1:02:14
it
1:02:14
out,
1:02:15
like,
1:02:15
what
1:02:15
works
1:02:15
best
1:02:16
for
1:02:16
the
1:02:16
kids
1:02:16
and
1:02:17
respecting
1:02:17
that.
1:02:18
Yeah.
1:02:19
And,
1:02:19
you
1:02:19
know,
1:02:19
I
1:02:20
think,
1:02:20
you
1:02:20
know,
1:02:20
if
1:02:20
you
1:02:20
want
1:02:20
to
1:02:21
go
1:02:21
back
1:02:21
to,
1:02:21
like,
1:02:21
fail
1:02:21
forwards.
1:02:22
Another
1:02:22
big
1:02:22
fail
1:02:22
forward
1:02:23
forward
1:02:23
for
1:02:23
me
1:02:24
has
1:02:24
been
1:02:26
recognizing
1:02:28
I
1:02:28
have
1:02:28
a
1:02:28
lot
1:02:29
of
1:02:29
childhood
1:02:29
trauma
1:02:30
specifically
1:02:31
around
1:02:31
parenting.
1:02:32
And
1:02:32
so
1:02:32
for
1:02:32
me,
1:02:33
I've
1:02:33
spent
1:02:33
years
1:02:33
trying
1:02:34
to
1:02:34
overcompensate.
1:02:35
Yeah.
1:02:36
It's
1:02:36
so
1:02:37
important
1:02:37
to
1:02:37
me
1:02:37
to
1:02:37
make
1:02:38
sure,
1:02:38
like,
1:02:38
they
1:02:39
get
1:02:39
to
1:02:39
adulthood
1:02:40
with,
1:02:40
like,
1:02:41
minimal
1:02:41
need
1:02:41
of
1:02:42
therapy
1:02:42
because
1:02:42
of
1:02:42
me.
1:02:43
Yeah.
1:02:44
That's
1:02:44
kind
1:02:44
of.
1:02:45
My
1:02:45
theory
1:02:45
is
1:02:45
that,
1:02:46
like,
1:02:46
in
1:02:47
that
1:02:47
case,
1:02:48
like,
1:02:49
we're
1:02:50
still
1:02:50
gonna
1:02:50
mess
1:02:50
up
1:02:50
our
1:02:50
kids
1:02:51
because
1:02:51
then
1:02:51
we're
1:02:52
overcompensating.
1:02:53
And
1:02:53
so
1:02:53
it's
1:02:53
like,
1:02:54
it
1:02:54
doesn't.
1:02:54
In
1:02:54
parenting,
1:02:55
it
1:02:55
doesn't
1:02:55
matter
1:02:55
what
1:02:56
you
1:02:56
do,
1:02:56
it's
1:02:56
going
1:02:57
to
1:02:57
be
1:02:57
wrong.
1:02:57
And
1:02:58
so
1:02:58
it's
1:02:58
just
1:02:58
like
1:02:58
choosing
1:02:59
how
1:02:59
do
1:02:59
we
1:02:59
want
1:03:00
to
1:03:00
mess
1:03:00
up
1:03:00
our
1:03:00
kids.
1:03:01
Yeah.
1:03:01
And
1:03:02
I
1:03:02
like
1:03:02
that
1:03:02
you
1:03:02
said
1:03:02
a
1:03:03
minimal
1:03:03
amount
1:03:03
because,
1:03:04
like,
1:03:04
it's
1:03:04
gonna
1:03:05
happen.
1:03:05
It's
1:03:05
gonna.
1:03:06
Absolutely.
1:03:07
I'm
1:03:07
gonna
1:03:07
pay
1:03:07
for
1:03:08
it.
1:03:09
Yeah.
1:03:09
My
1:03:10
joke
1:03:10
with
1:03:10
them
1:03:10
is
1:03:11
that
1:03:12
my
1:03:12
goal
1:03:12
is
1:03:12
to
1:03:13
make
1:03:13
sure
1:03:13
that
1:03:13
they
1:03:13
only
1:03:14
need
1:03:14
six
1:03:14
months
1:03:14
of
1:03:14
therapy
1:03:15
because
1:03:15
of
1:03:15
me,
1:03:15
and
1:03:16
I'll
1:03:16
pay
1:03:16
for
1:03:16
It.
1:03:16
It.
1:03:16
Oh,
1:03:19
my
1:03:19
college
1:03:20
tuition
1:03:20
instead.
1:03:21
That's
1:03:22
so
1:03:22
sweet.
1:03:22
Therapy
1:03:23
can
1:03:23
wait.
1:03:24
But,
1:03:25
yeah,
1:03:25
like,
1:03:25
you
1:03:25
know,
1:03:26
that's.
1:03:26
That's
1:03:26
been
1:03:26
a
1:03:26
huge
1:03:27
thing
1:03:27
for
1:03:27
me
1:03:27
is,
1:03:28
like,
1:03:28
recognizing,
1:03:29
like,
1:03:30
there
1:03:30
is
1:03:30
no
1:03:30
perfect
1:03:30
parent.
1:03:31
I'm
1:03:32
gonna
1:03:32
mess
1:03:32
up.
1:03:32
And
1:03:33
actually,
1:03:33
I
1:03:33
think
1:03:33
one
1:03:33
of
1:03:33
the
1:03:34
biggest
1:03:34
things
1:03:34
I
1:03:34
can
1:03:34
give
1:03:35
them
1:03:35
is
1:03:35
to
1:03:35
teach
1:03:35
them
1:03:35
how
1:03:36
to
1:03:36
mess
1:03:36
up
1:03:37
and
1:03:37
also
1:03:37
how
1:03:38
to
1:03:38
repair.
1:03:38
Yes.
1:03:40
Because
1:03:40
I'll.
1:03:40
You
1:03:41
know,
1:03:41
I.
1:03:41
I
1:03:41
lost
1:03:41
my
1:03:42
temper
1:03:42
a
1:03:42
few
1:03:42
months
1:03:42
ago
1:03:43
with
1:03:43
my
1:03:43
son,
1:03:44
and
1:03:44
he.
1:03:45
He
1:03:45
likes
1:03:45
to
1:03:45
push
1:03:46
buttons.
1:03:46
He's
1:03:46
an
1:03:46
adhd.
1:03:47
ADHD
1:03:48
is
1:03:48
dopamine.
1:03:48
Seek
1:03:49
when
1:03:49
they're
1:03:49
bored,
1:03:50
even
1:03:50
if
1:03:51
it's
1:03:51
bad.
1:03:51
You
1:03:51
know,
1:03:51
like,
1:03:52
that's
1:03:52
what
1:03:52
they
1:03:52
do.
1:03:53
And
1:03:53
so
1:03:53
I
1:03:54
was
1:03:54
working
1:03:54
on
1:03:54
something.
1:03:54
I
1:03:55
was
1:03:55
exhausted.
1:03:55
Like,
1:03:55
it'd
1:03:56
been
1:03:56
a
1:03:56
long
1:03:56
week.
1:03:56
And
1:03:56
he
1:03:57
was
1:03:57
down
1:03:57
there
1:03:57
pushing
1:03:57
buttons.
1:03:58
And
1:03:58
I
1:03:59
remember
1:03:59
yelling
1:04:00
at
1:04:00
him.
1:04:00
And
1:04:00
I
1:04:00
meant
1:04:01
to
1:04:01
say,
1:04:01
this
1:04:01
is
1:04:01
why
1:04:02
you're
1:04:02
struggling
1:04:02
with
1:04:03
your
1:04:03
friend
1:04:03
group
1:04:03
right
1:04:03
now.
1:04:04
What
1:04:04
I
1:04:04
said
1:04:05
was,
1:04:05
this
1:04:05
is
1:04:06
why
1:04:06
you
1:04:06
have
1:04:06
no
1:04:06
friends.
1:04:07
I
1:04:07
said,
1:04:09
I
1:04:10
didn't
1:04:10
mean
1:04:10
to.
1:04:11
And
1:04:11
so
1:04:11
he
1:04:12
went
1:04:12
upstairs
1:04:12
crying.
1:04:13
My
1:04:13
husband
1:04:13
literally
1:04:14
looked
1:04:14
at
1:04:14
me,
1:04:14
and
1:04:14
he
1:04:14
was
1:04:15
like,
1:04:15
well,
1:04:15
that
1:04:16
rough.
1:04:16
And
1:04:17
I
1:04:17
was
1:04:17
like,
1:04:17
I
1:04:17
know,
1:04:17
I
1:04:18
know.
1:04:18
Give
1:04:18
me
1:04:18
a
1:04:18
few
1:04:18
minutes.
1:04:19
I'll
1:04:19
go
1:04:19
up
1:04:19
there
1:04:20
and
1:04:20
we'll
1:04:21
make
1:04:21
it
1:04:21
right.
1:04:22
But,
1:04:22
like,
1:04:22
I
1:04:22
took
1:04:22
a
1:04:23
deep
1:04:23
breath.
1:04:23
I
1:04:23
needed
1:04:23
that
1:04:24
moment.
1:04:24
And,
1:04:24
you
1:04:25
know,
1:04:25
I
1:04:25
want
1:04:25
my
1:04:26
kids
1:04:26
to
1:04:26
learn.
1:04:27
What
1:04:27
we
1:04:27
did
1:04:28
not
1:04:28
learn
1:04:28
in
1:04:28
the
1:04:28
90s
1:04:29
was
1:04:29
that
1:04:29
it's
1:04:30
okay
1:04:30
not
1:04:30
to
1:04:30
be
1:04:30
perfect.
1:04:31
Like,
1:04:31
you
1:04:32
can
1:04:32
make
1:04:32
mistakes,
1:04:32
and
1:04:33
it's
1:04:33
actually
1:04:33
more
1:04:33
the
1:04:34
mistake
1:04:34
isn't
1:04:34
the
1:04:34
problem.
1:04:35
It's
1:04:35
more
1:04:35
about
1:04:35
repair.
1:04:37
Yes.
1:04:37
You
1:04:38
know,
1:04:38
there
1:04:38
are
1:04:38
those
1:04:38
big
1:04:38
mistakes,
1:04:39
but
1:04:39
for
1:04:40
the
1:04:40
most
1:04:40
part,
1:04:40
most
1:04:40
people
1:04:41
are
1:04:41
going
1:04:41
to
1:04:41
forgive
1:04:41
you
1:04:41
for
1:04:41
having
1:04:42
a
1:04:42
moment.
1:04:42
Yeah.
1:04:43
And
1:04:43
just.
1:04:43
Just
1:04:44
out
1:04:44
of
1:04:44
curiosity,
1:04:44
is
1:04:45
he
1:04:45
on
1:04:45
any
1:04:45
medications
1:04:46
for
1:04:47
any
1:04:47
of
1:04:47
the
1:04:47
struggles,
1:04:48
or
1:04:48
is
1:04:48
it
1:04:49
really
1:04:49
just
1:04:49
being
1:04:50
coped
1:04:51
very
1:04:51
well
1:04:51
with
1:04:51
how
1:04:52
you
1:04:52
are
1:04:52
parenting
1:04:53
and
1:04:53
managing?
1:04:54
So
1:04:54
he
1:04:54
has
1:04:55
not
1:04:55
been
1:04:55
on
1:04:55
medication
1:04:56
since
1:04:57
we
1:04:58
tried
1:04:58
it
1:04:58
right
1:04:58
after
1:04:59
he
1:04:59
got
1:04:59
diagnosed.
1:05:00
It
1:05:01
just
1:05:01
was
1:05:01
not
1:05:01
a
1:05:01
great
1:05:01
fit
1:05:02
for
1:05:02
him
1:05:02
at
1:05:02
the
1:05:02
time.
1:05:03
Something
1:05:03
about
1:05:03
that
1:05:04
anger
1:05:04
management
1:05:05
piece,
1:05:05
it
1:05:05
was
1:05:05
making
1:05:06
it
1:05:06
worse.
1:05:07
So
1:05:07
we
1:05:08
took
1:05:08
him
1:05:08
off.
1:05:09
So
1:05:09
he's
1:05:10
basically
1:05:10
been
1:05:10
managed
1:05:11
with,
1:05:11
like,
1:05:12
cognitive
1:05:12
behavioral
1:05:13
therapy,
1:05:15
all
1:05:15
the
1:05:15
books
1:05:15
that
1:05:16
I
1:05:16
can
1:05:16
get
1:05:16
my
1:05:16
hands
1:05:16
on,
1:05:19
you
1:05:19
know,
1:05:19
trying
1:05:19
to
1:05:19
keep
1:05:19
as
1:05:20
much
1:05:20
structure
1:05:20
with
1:05:20
him
1:05:20
as
1:05:21
possible
1:05:21
while
1:05:21
still
1:05:22
allowing
1:05:22
free
1:05:22
time.
1:05:23
Diet's
1:05:23
been
1:05:23
a
1:05:23
big
1:05:24
thing
1:05:24
for
1:05:24
him,
1:05:26
and
1:05:26
we
1:05:27
are
1:05:27
just
1:05:27
now,
1:05:28
I
1:05:28
think
1:05:28
it's
1:05:28
the
1:05:28
combination
1:05:29
of
1:05:29
all
1:05:29
of
1:05:30
it
1:05:30
with
1:05:31
hitting
1:05:31
puberty
1:05:32
and
1:05:32
getting
1:05:32
those
1:05:32
hormones.
1:05:33
So
1:05:33
we
1:05:33
actually
1:05:33
do
1:05:33
have
1:05:34
an
1:05:34
appointment
1:05:35
next
1:05:35
month
1:05:35
to
1:05:35
maybe
1:05:36
explore
1:05:36
some
1:05:36
options
1:05:37
now
1:05:38
that
1:05:38
he's
1:05:38
a
1:05:38
little
1:05:38
older.
1:05:40
But
1:05:40
we'll
1:05:40
see.
1:05:40
Like,
1:05:41
you
1:05:41
know,
1:05:41
I'm
1:05:42
not
1:05:42
against
1:05:42
medication
1:05:42
at
1:05:43
all.
1:05:43
I
1:05:43
just
1:05:43
think
1:05:43
that
1:05:45
I
1:05:45
take
1:05:45
medication
1:05:46
myself,
1:05:46
so.
1:05:47
But
1:05:47
I
1:05:47
think
1:05:47
it's
1:05:48
like,
1:05:49
you
1:05:49
know,
1:05:49
what
1:05:49
we
1:05:49
explained
1:05:50
to
1:05:50
our
1:05:50
parents
1:05:50
at
1:05:50
work
1:05:51
is
1:05:51
like,
1:05:51
medication
1:05:52
is.
1:05:53
Mental
1:05:53
health
1:05:53
is
1:05:53
like
1:05:53
going
1:05:54
uphill,
1:05:54
going
1:05:55
up
1:05:55
a
1:05:55
river
1:05:55
without
1:05:55
a
1:05:55
paddle,
1:05:56
it's
1:05:57
hard.
1:05:57
Can
1:05:57
you
1:05:57
do
1:05:57
it?
1:05:58
Maybe.
1:05:58
Will
1:05:58
you
1:05:58
get
1:05:59
really
1:05:59
tired?
1:05:59
Is
1:05:59
it,
1:06:00
you
1:06:00
know,
1:06:00
really
1:06:00
exhausting?
1:06:01
Yeah,
1:06:01
but
1:06:02
the
1:06:02
medication
1:06:03
is
1:06:03
the
1:06:03
paddle.
1:06:04
You
1:06:04
still
1:06:04
have
1:06:04
to
1:06:04
do
1:06:04
all
1:06:04
the
1:06:05
work.
1:06:05
It
1:06:05
just
1:06:05
makes
1:06:05
it
1:06:06
a
1:06:06
little
1:06:06
easier
1:06:06
to
1:06:06
do
1:06:06
the
1:06:06
work.
1:06:07
I
1:06:07
love
1:06:07
that
1:06:07
we.
1:06:08
Actually,
1:06:08
that's
1:06:08
what
1:06:08
we
1:06:08
were
1:06:08
talking
1:06:09
about
1:06:09
with
1:06:09
Melissa
1:06:09
Walker.
1:06:10
Really?
1:06:10
Yeah.
1:06:11
She
1:06:11
might
1:06:11
like
1:06:12
that
1:06:12
analogy.
1:06:13
Yeah.
1:06:13
No,
1:06:14
that's
1:06:14
a
1:06:14
great
1:06:14
one.
1:06:15
Yeah.
1:06:16
I
1:06:16
know
1:06:16
that
1:06:17
we
1:06:17
need
1:06:17
to
1:06:17
start
1:06:17
wrapping
1:06:18
up.
1:06:18
I
1:06:19
gotta,
1:06:19
you
1:06:19
know,
1:06:19
forgot
1:06:20
to
1:06:20
take
1:06:20
my
1:06:20
mom
1:06:20
to
1:06:20
the
1:06:21
doctor,
1:06:23
so.
1:06:23
But
1:06:24
I
1:06:24
do.
1:06:24
I
1:06:25
feel
1:06:25
like
1:06:25
it
1:06:25
would
1:06:25
be
1:06:26
really
1:06:26
cool
1:06:26
to
1:06:26
really
1:06:26
hear
1:06:27
something,
1:06:27
like,
1:06:27
really
1:06:28
good
1:06:28
or
1:06:28
not
1:06:29
really
1:06:29
good,
1:06:29
like
1:06:30
something
1:06:30
from
1:06:30
Kaya,
1:06:30
like,
1:06:31
your
1:06:31
perspective.
1:06:32
Like
1:06:32
what.
1:06:33
Like,
1:06:33
what
1:06:33
do
1:06:33
you
1:06:33
think
1:06:34
is
1:06:34
the
1:06:34
biggest
1:06:34
thing
1:06:34
you're
1:06:34
learning
1:06:35
from
1:06:35
this?
1:06:35
And,
1:06:35
like,
1:06:35
what
1:06:36
are
1:06:36
you
1:06:36
going
1:06:36
to
1:06:36
take
1:06:36
with
1:06:37
this
1:06:38
as
1:06:38
an
1:06:38
adult?
1:06:40
I
1:06:40
think
1:06:40
it
1:06:40
depends
1:06:41
on
1:06:41
the
1:06:41
person
1:06:42
because
1:06:42
a
1:06:42
lot
1:06:43
of
1:06:43
people
1:06:43
take
1:06:44
a
1:06:44
lot
1:06:44
of
1:06:44
different
1:06:44
things
1:06:45
from
1:06:47
things.
1:06:48
Sure.
1:06:48
And
1:06:50
I
1:06:50
think
1:06:50
it's
1:06:51
given
1:06:51
me
1:06:51
the
1:06:51
opportunity
1:06:52
to,
1:06:52
like,
1:06:52
figure
1:06:53
myself
1:06:53
out
1:06:53
and
1:06:53
not
1:06:54
force
1:06:54
myself
1:06:55
into
1:06:55
the
1:06:55
tiny
1:06:55
little
1:06:57
box
1:06:58
that
1:06:58
everyone
1:06:58
expects.
1:06:59
Does
1:07:00
make
1:07:00
it
1:07:00
hard
1:07:00
to
1:07:00
make
1:07:00
friends
1:07:01
sometimes.
1:07:01
But
1:07:02
I
1:07:02
think
1:07:02
that's
1:07:02
better
1:07:03
because
1:07:03
if
1:07:03
they
1:07:04
can't
1:07:05
handle
1:07:05
my
1:07:06
personality,
1:07:06
then
1:07:06
we
1:07:06
aren't
1:07:07
going
1:07:07
to
1:07:07
be
1:07:07
friends.
1:07:09
We
1:07:09
talk
1:07:09
a
1:07:09
lot
1:07:09
about
1:07:10
quantity
1:07:10
friends
1:07:10
versus
1:07:11
quality
1:07:11
friends.
1:07:11
Yeah,
1:07:12
read.
1:07:12
I.
1:07:13
I
1:07:13
prefer
1:07:13
quality.
1:07:14
I
1:07:14
have,
1:07:14
like
1:07:15
three
1:07:15
good
1:07:15
friends
1:07:16
and
1:07:16
they
1:07:16
know
1:07:16
who
1:07:16
they
1:07:17
are.
1:07:18
I
1:07:19
love
1:07:19
that
1:07:19
you're
1:07:19
already
1:07:20
where
1:07:21
you
1:07:21
aren't
1:07:21
afraid
1:07:22
to
1:07:22
be
1:07:22
who
1:07:22
you
1:07:22
are,
1:07:23
and
1:07:23
you
1:07:23
have
1:07:24
been
1:07:24
able
1:07:24
to
1:07:24
explore
1:07:24
that.
1:07:26
I
1:07:26
joke
1:07:26
that
1:07:27
I
1:07:27
want
1:07:27
to
1:07:27
be
1:07:27
her
1:07:27
when
1:07:27
I
1:07:27
grow
1:07:28
up,
1:07:29
but
1:07:30
it.
1:07:30
Also
1:07:30
gives
1:07:31
me
1:07:31
the
1:07:31
opportunity.
1:07:32
Opportunity
1:07:33
to
1:07:33
look
1:07:34
at
1:07:34
things
1:07:34
outside
1:07:35
of
1:07:35
where
1:07:35
I
1:07:36
am.
1:07:36
Because
1:07:37
I've
1:07:37
been
1:07:38
so
1:07:38
involved
1:07:39
with
1:07:39
the
1:07:39
outside
1:07:40
world.
1:07:40
Because
1:07:40
technology
1:07:41
is
1:07:41
an
1:07:41
amazing
1:07:41
thing
1:07:42
when
1:07:43
it's
1:07:43
used
1:07:43
in.
1:07:44
In
1:07:45
small
1:07:45
doses.
1:07:47
But
1:07:48
I
1:07:49
wanted
1:07:49
to
1:07:50
understand
1:07:50
the
1:07:50
lyrics
1:07:50
to
1:07:51
a
1:07:51
Finnish
1:07:51
song
1:07:51
the
1:07:52
other
1:07:52
day,
1:07:52
and
1:07:52
now
1:07:52
I'm
1:07:53
looking
1:07:53
at
1:07:54
Finnish
1:07:54
colleges
1:07:54
because
1:07:55
I
1:07:55
like
1:07:55
their
1:07:55
culture
1:07:56
and
1:07:56
like
1:07:56
their
1:07:57
government.
1:07:57
What
1:07:58
does
1:07:58
that
1:07:58
mean?
1:07:59
Finland.
1:08:00
Finland.
1:08:01
Oh,
1:08:03
she's
1:08:03
creating
1:08:04
an
1:08:04
escape
1:08:04
plan
1:08:05
to
1:08:05
move
1:08:05
to
1:08:05
Finland.
1:08:06
I
1:08:06
am.
1:08:07
I
1:08:07
don't
1:08:07
like
1:08:07
America.
1:08:10
I
1:08:10
might
1:08:10
go
1:08:11
with
1:08:11
you.
1:08:11
Yes,
1:08:12
please
1:08:12
do.
1:08:12
Yeah.
1:08:15
And
1:08:16
I
1:08:16
also
1:08:16
think
1:08:16
it
1:08:17
allows
1:08:18
me
1:08:18
to
1:08:18
explore
1:08:19
interests
1:08:20
and
1:08:20
figure
1:08:20
out
1:08:21
what
1:08:21
I
1:08:21
want
1:08:21
to
1:08:21
do
1:08:21
with
1:08:21
my
1:08:22
life
1:08:22
within
1:08:23
reason.
1:08:24
Instead
1:08:25
of
1:08:25
being
1:08:25
like,
1:08:26
oh,
1:08:26
I
1:08:27
know
1:08:27
nothing
1:08:27
about
1:08:28
this
1:08:28
topic,
1:08:29
but
1:08:29
I'm
1:08:29
Gonna
1:08:30
do
1:08:30
it.
1:08:30
And
1:08:30
then
1:08:30
I'm
1:08:31
gonna
1:08:31
swap
1:08:31
my
1:08:31
major
1:08:32
two
1:08:33
years
1:08:33
in
1:08:34
twice.
1:08:35
Hush.
1:08:35
She's
1:08:36
looking
1:08:36
at
1:08:36
her
1:08:37
mother.
1:08:40
I
1:08:40
also
1:08:40
feel
1:08:41
like
1:08:41
it
1:08:41
gives
1:08:42
more
1:08:42
real
1:08:42
life
1:08:43
experience
1:08:43
as
1:08:43
opposed
1:08:44
to.
1:08:44
Oh,
1:08:45
well,
1:08:45
you're
1:08:45
gonna.
1:08:46
School
1:08:47
is
1:08:47
basically
1:08:47
going
1:08:47
to
1:08:48
be
1:08:48
your
1:08:48
entire
1:08:48
life.
1:08:49
This
1:08:50
is
1:08:50
your
1:08:50
entire
1:08:51
life.
1:08:51
You're
1:08:51
gonna
1:08:52
be
1:08:52
stuck
1:08:52
in
1:08:52
a
1:08:52
room
1:08:53
with
1:08:53
people
1:08:53
who
1:08:54
are
1:08:54
older
1:08:54
and
1:08:54
more
1:08:55
experienced
1:08:55
than
1:08:56
you
1:08:56
your
1:08:56
entire
1:08:56
life,
1:08:57
and
1:08:57
you're
1:08:57
not
1:08:57
gonna
1:08:58
know
1:08:58
how
1:08:58
to
1:08:58
function
1:08:58
in
1:08:59
real
1:08:59
society.
1:09:00
Whoa.
1:09:00
You
1:09:00
just
1:09:00
blew
1:09:01
my
1:09:01
mind.
1:09:01
Right?
1:09:02
I
1:09:03
literally
1:09:03
just
1:09:04
had
1:09:05
the
1:09:05
idea.
1:09:05
You
1:09:05
just
1:09:05
gave
1:09:06
me
1:09:06
the
1:09:06
idea
1:09:06
that
1:09:06
it's
1:09:07
like
1:09:07
you're
1:09:07
in
1:09:07
school.
1:09:07
You
1:09:08
don't
1:09:08
even
1:09:08
have
1:09:08
a
1:09:08
time
1:09:09
to
1:09:09
figure
1:09:09
out
1:09:09
who
1:09:09
you
1:09:09
are.
1:09:10
Like,
1:09:11
you
1:09:11
have
1:09:11
an
1:09:11
identity.
1:09:12
You
1:09:12
don't
1:09:13
get
1:09:13
time
1:09:13
to
1:09:13
experiment
1:09:14
with
1:09:14
yourself.
1:09:14
And
1:09:15
you
1:09:15
also
1:09:15
don't
1:09:15
get
1:09:15
time
1:09:16
to
1:09:16
understand
1:09:18
different
1:09:18
people,
1:09:19
work
1:09:19
different
1:09:20
ways,
1:09:20
and
1:09:20
you
1:09:20
don't
1:09:21
learn
1:09:21
how
1:09:21
to
1:09:21
understand
1:09:22
that.
1:09:22
Yeah,
1:09:23
my
1:09:23
brother,
1:09:24
he's
1:09:24
way
1:09:24
more
1:09:25
emotional.
1:09:25
I'm
1:09:26
not.
1:09:26
I'm
1:09:26
not
1:09:26
an
1:09:27
emotional
1:09:27
person.
1:09:28
And
1:09:29
so
1:09:29
I
1:09:29
have
1:09:29
to
1:09:29
figure
1:09:30
out
1:09:30
ways
1:09:30
to
1:09:30
understand
1:09:31
him
1:09:31
while
1:09:32
still
1:09:32
understanding
1:09:33
myself
1:09:33
at
1:09:34
the
1:09:34
exact
1:09:34
same
1:09:34
time.
1:09:35
That's
1:09:35
beautiful.
1:09:36
Kaya,
1:09:37
do
1:09:37
you
1:09:37
think
1:09:37
you
1:09:38
are
1:09:38
the
1:09:38
way
1:09:38
you
1:09:38
are
1:09:39
because
1:09:39
of
1:09:40
the
1:09:40
opportunity
1:09:40
your
1:09:40
mom
1:09:41
is
1:09:41
giving
1:09:41
you?
1:09:42
Because,
1:09:42
like,
1:09:42
you're
1:09:43
just
1:09:43
very
1:09:43
small.
1:09:44
You're
1:09:44
very
1:09:45
emotionally
1:09:45
and
1:09:46
mentally
1:09:46
wise,
1:09:47
sir,
1:09:47
than
1:09:47
I
1:09:48
would
1:09:48
say
1:09:48
most
1:09:48
14
1:09:49
year
1:09:49
olds.
1:09:51
I
1:09:51
think
1:09:52
it
1:09:52
definitely
1:09:52
helped.
1:09:53
But
1:09:53
I
1:09:54
will
1:09:54
say
1:09:54
I
1:09:54
think
1:09:54
my
1:09:55
personality
1:09:55
is
1:09:55
the
1:09:56
way.
1:09:56
My
1:09:57
personality
1:09:57
is
1:09:57
the
1:09:58
way
1:09:58
it
1:09:58
is
1:09:58
because
1:09:59
I
1:10:00
was
1:10:00
not
1:10:00
forced.
1:10:01
She's
1:10:01
like,
1:10:01
I'm
1:10:01
just
1:10:02
fucking
1:10:02
awesome.
1:10:03
Yeah,
1:10:03
I
1:10:03
am.
1:10:04
I
1:10:04
am
1:10:04
awesome.
1:10:05
And
1:10:05
then
1:10:05
she
1:10:05
can
1:10:06
find
1:10:06
out
1:10:06
that
1:10:06
she
1:10:07
was
1:10:07
awesome.
1:10:08
Yeah.
1:10:09
Because
1:10:09
I
1:10:09
have
1:10:10
good
1:10:10
friends
1:10:10
who
1:10:10
support
1:10:10
me
1:10:11
through
1:10:11
everything
1:10:11
and
1:10:12
I.
1:10:12
That's
1:10:12
awesome
1:10:13
that
1:10:13
you
1:10:13
guys
1:10:14
will
1:10:14
actually
1:10:14
listen
1:10:14
to
1:10:14
this
1:10:15
and
1:10:15
I'm
1:10:15
not
1:10:15
sending
1:10:15
it
1:10:16
to
1:10:16
you
1:10:16
for
1:10:16
nothing.
1:10:17
Oh,
1:10:18
I
1:10:19
love
1:10:19
this.
1:10:22
I'm
1:10:22
so
1:10:22
glad
1:10:23
we
1:10:23
had
1:10:23
this
1:10:23
conversation
1:10:24
because,
1:10:24
like,
1:10:24
I'm
1:10:24
definitely
1:10:25
like.
1:10:25
I
1:10:26
think
1:10:26
last
1:10:27
year
1:10:27
is
1:10:27
the
1:10:27
first
1:10:27
time
1:10:28
that
1:10:28
I
1:10:28
heard
1:10:28
about
1:10:28
unschooling.
1:10:29
And
1:10:29
I
1:10:29
am.
1:10:30
I.
1:10:31
You
1:10:31
know,
1:10:32
things
1:10:32
have
1:10:32
to
1:10:32
make
1:10:32
sense
1:10:33
to
1:10:33
me
1:10:33
and
1:10:33
there
1:10:33
has
1:10:33
to
1:10:33
be,
1:10:33
like,
1:10:33
a
1:10:33
logical
1:10:34
explanation.
1:10:34
And
1:10:35
to
1:10:35
me
1:10:35
I'm
1:10:35
like,
1:10:36
if
1:10:37
I
1:10:37
let
1:10:37
my
1:10:37
kids
1:10:37
decide
1:10:38
what
1:10:38
they're
1:10:38
going
1:10:38
to
1:10:39
do,
1:10:40
like,
1:10:40
they're
1:10:40
gonna
1:10:41
sit
1:10:41
and
1:10:41
play
1:10:41
video
1:10:41
games
1:10:42
all
1:10:42
day.
1:10:42
So
1:10:42
I
1:10:42
just,
1:10:43
you
1:10:43
know,
1:10:43
it's
1:10:43
kind
1:10:43
of
1:10:44
odd
1:10:44
to
1:10:44
me,
1:10:45
but
1:10:45
everything
1:10:46
that
1:10:46
you're
1:10:46
saying
1:10:46
makes
1:10:47
so
1:10:47
much
1:10:47
sense.
1:10:48
And
1:10:48
just
1:10:48
seeing
1:10:49
how
1:10:50
it's,
1:10:51
you
1:10:51
know,
1:10:51
what
1:10:51
it's
1:10:51
done
1:10:52
for
1:10:52
Kaia
1:10:52
and
1:10:52
your
1:10:53
son
1:10:53
seems
1:10:53
to
1:10:53
be
1:10:53
thriving,
1:10:54
like,
1:10:54
it
1:10:55
is
1:10:56
mind
1:10:56
blowing.
1:10:57
Just
1:10:57
so
1:10:57
you
1:10:58
know,
1:10:58
though,
1:10:58
like,
1:10:58
if
1:10:58
you
1:10:59
put
1:10:59
your
1:10:59
kids
1:10:59
in
1:11:00
a
1:11:00
Traditional
1:11:00
setting
1:11:01
and
1:11:01
then
1:11:01
you
1:11:01
pull
1:11:01
them
1:11:01
out.
1:11:02
It
1:11:02
does
1:11:02
actually
1:11:02
look
1:11:03
like
1:11:03
that
1:11:03
in
1:11:03
the
1:11:03
beginning.
1:11:04
Like,
1:11:04
that
1:11:05
was
1:11:05
something
1:11:05
we
1:11:05
went
1:11:05
through.
1:11:06
And
1:11:06
I'm
1:11:06
like
1:11:06
sitting
1:11:07
here
1:11:07
like,
1:11:07
oh,
1:11:07
my
1:11:07
gosh.
1:11:08
My
1:11:08
kids
1:11:08
are
1:11:08
literally,
1:11:09
like,
1:11:09
playing
1:11:09
video
1:11:09
games
1:11:09
all
1:11:10
day.
1:11:10
They're
1:11:10
doing
1:11:11
like,
1:11:11
that
1:11:11
looks
1:11:12
academic.
1:11:12
I
1:11:12
definitely
1:11:13
panicked
1:11:13
a
1:11:13
few
1:11:14
times
1:11:14
and
1:11:14
would
1:11:14
be
1:11:15
like,
1:11:15
we're
1:11:15
going
1:11:15
to
1:11:15
do
1:11:15
a
1:11:15
curriculum.
1:11:16
And
1:11:16
then
1:11:16
it
1:11:16
would
1:11:17
always
1:11:17
fail.
1:11:17
And
1:11:17
it
1:11:17
was
1:11:17
terrible.
1:11:18
I
1:11:18
mean,
1:11:18
my
1:11:18
husband,
1:11:19
my
1:11:19
integer.
1:11:20
So,
1:11:21
you
1:11:21
know,
1:11:21
they
1:11:21
talk
1:11:21
about.
1:11:22
It's
1:11:22
called
1:11:22
deschooling,
1:11:23
but
1:11:23
it's
1:11:24
unschooling
1:11:25
is
1:11:25
a
1:11:25
lot.
1:11:25
Like,
1:11:25
you
1:11:25
have
1:11:25
to
1:11:25
deschool
1:11:26
yourself
1:11:26
from,
1:11:26
like,
1:11:27
what
1:11:27
you
1:11:27
think
1:11:27
it's
1:11:27
supposed
1:11:27
to
1:11:28
look
1:11:28
like.
1:11:28
Because
1:11:28
education
1:11:28
doesn't
1:11:29
just
1:11:29
happen
1:11:30
in
1:11:30
a
1:11:30
classroom.
1:11:30
Education
1:11:31
is
1:11:31
what
1:11:31
happens
1:11:32
every
1:11:32
day.
1:11:32
Yeah,
1:11:33
right.
1:11:33
Like
1:11:33
Kaya
1:11:34
just
1:11:34
said.
1:11:34
I
1:11:35
don't
1:11:35
know
1:11:35
if
1:11:35
you
1:11:35
heard
1:11:35
that,
1:11:36
but
1:11:36
she
1:11:36
learned
1:11:37
our
1:11:37
had
1:11:37
an
1:11:38
interest
1:11:38
in
1:11:38
architecture
1:11:39
because
1:11:39
of
1:11:39
Minecraft.
1:11:41
So,
1:11:41
like,
1:11:42
I
1:11:42
missed
1:11:43
that.
1:11:43
I
1:11:43
did
1:11:43
not
1:11:43
hear
1:11:43
that.
1:11:45
So
1:11:45
it's
1:11:45
pretty.
1:11:45
It's
1:11:46
pretty
1:11:46
cool
1:11:46
like,
1:11:46
that
1:11:46
you
1:11:47
can
1:11:47
kind
1:11:47
of
1:11:47
like,
1:11:48
you
1:11:48
can
1:11:48
find
1:11:48
something
1:11:48
to
1:11:49
learn
1:11:49
in
1:11:49
everything
1:11:50
that
1:11:50
you
1:11:50
do.
1:11:50
Yeah.
1:11:51
No,
1:11:52
and
1:11:52
I'm
1:11:52
glad
1:11:53
that
1:11:53
you
1:11:53
said
1:11:53
that,
1:11:53
Sam,
1:11:54
because,
1:11:54
yeah,
1:11:55
I.
1:11:55
I
1:11:55
could
1:11:56
see
1:11:56
for
1:11:56
sure
1:11:57
being,
1:11:57
like,
1:11:58
harder
1:11:58
for.
1:11:58
The
1:11:58
parents
1:11:59
than
1:11:59
the
1:11:59
kids.
1:11:59
Like,
1:12:00
we
1:12:00
really
1:12:00
have
1:12:00
to,
1:12:00
like,
1:12:01
undo
1:12:01
everything
1:12:01
we
1:12:02
think
1:12:02
it
1:12:02
looks
1:12:02
like,
1:12:03
and
1:12:03
we
1:12:04
have
1:12:04
to
1:12:04
trust,
1:12:04
and
1:12:04
that's
1:12:05
so
1:12:05
hard.
1:12:06
Yeah.
1:12:07
Oh,
1:12:07
wow.
1:12:09
I
1:12:09
love.
1:12:10
Wow.
1:12:10
I
1:12:10
love
1:12:11
so
1:12:11
much.
1:12:12
And
1:12:12
it's
1:12:12
gonna
1:12:13
come
1:12:13
out
1:12:13
in
1:12:13
the
1:12:13
perfect
1:12:13
time
1:12:14
as,
1:12:14
like,
1:12:14
we're
1:12:14
getting
1:12:15
ready
1:12:15
to
1:12:15
get
1:12:15
ready
1:12:15
for
1:12:15
school.
1:12:16
And
1:12:16
I,
1:12:16
and
1:12:16
I
1:12:17
personally
1:12:17
know
1:12:17
parents
1:12:18
that
1:12:20
they
1:12:21
don't
1:12:21
know
1:12:21
what
1:12:22
they're
1:12:22
doing
1:12:22
for
1:12:22
their
1:12:22
kids
1:12:23
because
1:12:23
nothing
1:12:24
has
1:12:24
worked
1:12:24
for
1:12:25
them.
1:12:26
You
1:12:26
don't
1:12:26
really
1:12:26
have
1:12:27
to
1:12:27
know.
1:12:27
I
1:12:27
think
1:12:27
a
1:12:27
lot
1:12:28
of
1:12:28
parents
1:12:28
end
1:12:28
up
1:12:29
that
1:12:29
we.
1:12:29
There's
1:12:29
kind
1:12:30
of
1:12:30
a
1:12:30
joke
1:12:30
in
1:12:30
the
1:12:30
homeschooling
1:12:31
community
1:12:31
and
1:12:32
especially
1:12:32
in
1:12:32
the
1:12:32
unschooling
1:12:33
community.
1:12:33
Like,
1:12:33
we
1:12:33
all
1:12:34
start
1:12:34
out
1:12:34
as,
1:12:34
like,
1:12:34
that
1:12:35
traditional
1:12:35
school
1:12:35
at
1:12:36
home
1:12:36
model.
1:12:37
And
1:12:37
then
1:12:37
we
1:12:37
get
1:12:38
so
1:12:38
tired
1:12:38
of
1:12:38
it
1:12:39
that
1:12:39
we
1:12:39
end
1:12:39
up,
1:12:39
like,
1:12:40
falling
1:12:40
into
1:12:41
that
1:12:41
unschooling
1:12:42
mode.
1:12:42
And
1:12:42
then
1:12:43
we
1:12:43
realize
1:12:43
that
1:12:43
it
1:12:43
works
1:12:44
and
1:12:44
we're
1:12:44
like,
1:12:44
okay,
1:12:45
well,
1:12:45
you
1:12:45
know,
1:12:45
we're
1:12:45
going
1:12:46
to
1:12:46
kind
1:12:46
of
1:12:46
let
1:12:46
this
1:12:46
run.
1:12:47
Just
1:12:47
go
1:12:47
with
1:12:48
it.
1:12:48
Yes.
1:12:50
Or
1:12:50
Unless
1:12:50
you're
1:12:51
Mormon.
1:12:51
Unless
1:12:52
you're
1:12:52
Mormon.
1:12:53
I
1:12:53
grew
1:12:55
and
1:12:55
so,
1:12:55
yeah,
1:12:56
you're
1:12:56
probably
1:12:56
right.
1:12:56
I've
1:12:57
done
1:12:57
so
1:12:57
much
1:12:57
research.
1:12:59
Good
1:12:59
job.
1:12:59
Oh,
1:12:59
my
1:12:59
God,
1:13:00
y'
1:13:00
all
1:13:00
are
1:13:00
so
1:13:00
much.
1:13:01
Promise.
1:13:01
You.
1:13:02
You
1:13:02
are,
1:13:02
like,
1:13:02
really
1:13:03
looking
1:13:03
into
1:13:03
things
1:13:04
and
1:13:04
thinking,
1:13:04
like,
1:13:05
why
1:13:05
yes
1:13:05
or
1:13:06
why
1:13:06
no.
1:13:06
I
1:13:07
don't
1:13:07
judge
1:13:07
things
1:13:08
based
1:13:08
off
1:13:08
of
1:13:08
the.
1:13:09
The
1:13:09
first
1:13:10
thing
1:13:10
people
1:13:10
tell
1:13:10
me.
1:13:11
I
1:13:11
base
1:13:11
my
1:13:11
Own
1:13:12
opinions
1:13:12
off
1:13:12
of
1:13:12
what
1:13:13
I
1:13:13
can
1:13:13
learn
1:13:13
and.
1:13:14
No,
1:13:15
that's
1:13:15
amazing.
1:13:16
That's
1:13:16
beautiful.
1:13:16
Academic
1:13:17
kid
1:13:18
logic,
1:13:18
logical
1:13:19
kid.
1:13:19
And
1:13:19
then
1:13:19
our
1:13:20
younger
1:13:20
one,
1:13:20
he's
1:13:20
the
1:13:21
one
1:13:21
that's
1:13:21
like,
1:13:22
he's
1:13:22
going
1:13:22
to
1:13:22
be
1:13:22
an
1:13:23
engineer,
1:13:23
like
1:13:23
it's
1:13:24
going
1:13:24
to
1:13:24
invent
1:13:25
something.
1:13:25
And
1:13:25
I
1:13:25
joke
1:13:26
like,
1:13:26
she's
1:13:27
our
1:13:27
40
1:13:27
year
1:13:27
old
1:13:28
in
1:13:28
a
1:13:29
14
1:13:29
year
1:13:30
old's
1:13:30
body
1:13:30
and
1:13:31
he's
1:13:31
a.
1:13:31
He's
1:13:31
a
1:13:32
rich
1:13:32
kid
1:13:32
that
1:13:32
was
1:13:32
born
1:13:32
to
1:13:33
a
1:13:33
middle
1:13:33
class.
1:13:33
That's
1:13:34
hilarious.
1:13:34
We
1:13:35
joke
1:13:35
about
1:13:35
that
1:13:35
with
1:13:36
my
1:13:36
friend.
1:13:36
One
1:13:37
of
1:13:37
my
1:13:37
friends
1:13:37
is
1:13:37
like
1:13:38
that.
1:13:38
He's
1:13:38
like,
1:13:39
I'm
1:13:39
technically
1:13:40
supposed
1:13:40
to
1:13:41
be
1:13:41
an
1:13:41
aristocrat.
1:13:41
Yeah,
1:13:42
yeah.
1:13:42
Like
1:13:42
this
1:13:42
kid,
1:13:43
for
1:13:43
his
1:13:43
birthday,
1:13:43
when
1:13:43
he
1:13:43
turned
1:13:44
11,
1:13:44
he
1:13:44
wanted
1:13:44
a
1:13:44
pedicure
1:13:45
and
1:13:45
a
1:13:45
massage.
1:13:48
I
1:13:48
love
1:13:49
it.
1:13:50
Yeah.
1:13:50
Yeah.
1:13:50
So
1:13:51
I've
1:13:51
decided
1:13:51
I
1:13:51
want
1:13:51
to
1:13:52
be
1:13:52
Kaya
1:13:52
when
1:13:52
I
1:13:52
grow
1:13:52
up,
1:13:53
so.
1:13:53
I
1:13:53
agree.
1:13:54
Same.
1:13:56
Well,
1:13:57
you
1:13:57
guys,
1:13:57
I
1:13:57
just.
1:13:58
Yeah,
1:13:58
I'm.
1:13:58
I'm
1:13:59
so
1:13:59
glad
1:13:59
that
1:13:59
you
1:13:59
came
1:13:59
onto
1:14:00
the
1:14:00
podcast.
1:14:00
I
1:14:01
met
1:14:01
Sam
1:14:01
randomly
1:14:02
one
1:14:02
day.
1:14:03
She
1:14:03
came
1:14:03
into
1:14:03
the
1:14:03
shop
1:14:04
number
1:14:04
two,
1:14:04
couldn't
1:14:05
stop
1:14:05
talking
1:14:06
that
1:14:06
day.
1:14:07
And
1:14:08
so
1:14:08
I'm
1:14:08
so
1:14:09
glad
1:14:09
that
1:14:09
you
1:14:09
agreed
1:14:10
to
1:14:10
come
1:14:10
and
1:14:10
do
1:14:10
this.
1:14:10
No,
1:14:11
thank
1:14:11
you
1:14:11
for
1:14:11
inviting
1:14:11
me.
1:14:11
This
1:14:12
was
1:14:12
a
1:14:12
lot
1:14:12
of
1:14:12
fun.
1:14:12
Yeah,
1:14:12
it
1:14:13
was
1:14:13
so
1:14:13
much
1:14:13
fun
1:14:14
and
1:14:14
I
1:14:14
feel
1:14:14
like
1:14:14
we
1:14:14
could
1:14:15
talk
1:14:15
about
1:14:15
so
1:14:15
much
1:14:16
more.
1:14:16
We
1:14:17
could.
1:14:17
Absolutely
1:14:18
we
1:14:18
could.
1:14:18
Yeah.
1:14:19
Well,
1:14:19
thank
1:14:20
you
1:14:20
guys
1:14:20
so
1:14:20
much
1:14:20
for
1:14:21
joining
1:14:21
us.
1:14:23
And
1:14:23
yeah,
1:14:24
I
1:14:24
think
1:14:24
that
1:14:24
we
1:14:24
have
1:14:25
more
1:14:25
to
1:14:25
talk
1:14:25
about,
1:14:25
so
1:14:26
I
1:14:26
think
1:14:26
that
1:14:26
we
1:14:26
will
1:14:27
be
1:14:27
seeing
1:14:27
more
1:14:27
of
1:14:28
Sam
1:14:28
and
1:14:28
maybe
1:14:28
Kaya.
1:14:29
Okay.
1:14:30
We'd
1:14:31
love
1:14:31
to
1:14:31
come
1:14:31
back.
1:14:31
Tayton,
1:14:32
when
1:14:32
he
1:14:32
turns
1:14:32
13.
1:14:33
Okay.
1:14:34
She
1:14:34
has
1:14:35
decided
1:14:35
he
1:14:35
has
1:14:35
to
1:14:35
be
1:14:36
13.
1:14:36
That's
1:14:36
because
1:14:36
he
1:14:37
needs
1:14:37
to
1:14:37
understand.
1:14:37
He
1:14:37
needs
1:14:38
to
1:14:38
understand
1:14:39
that
1:14:39
everything
1:14:39
on
1:14:40
the
1:14:40
Internet
1:14:40
is
1:14:40
forever
1:14:41
and
1:14:41
there
1:14:41
is
1:14:41
no
1:14:41
taking
1:14:42
that.
1:14:42
That
1:14:43
is
1:14:43
very
1:14:43
true.
1:14:44
It
1:14:44
actually
1:14:45
might
1:14:45
be
1:14:45
kind
1:14:46
of
1:14:46
interesting
1:14:46
to
1:14:47
talk
1:14:47
to
1:14:47
him
1:14:47
now
1:14:48
in
1:14:48
like
1:14:48
perspective
1:14:49
of
1:14:49
like
1:14:49
where
1:14:50
he
1:14:50
is
1:14:50
at
1:14:51
right
1:14:51
now
1:14:51
and
1:14:52
then
1:14:53
meet
1:14:53
him
1:14:53
where
1:14:53
he
1:14:53
is
1:14:54
when
1:14:54
he's
1:14:54
13,
1:14:54
14.
1:14:55
That's
1:14:56
true.
1:14:56
That
1:14:56
would
1:14:56
be
1:14:56
interesting.
1:14:57
She's
1:14:58
like,
1:14:58
I
1:14:58
don't
1:14:58
think
1:14:58
you
1:14:59
want.
1:14:59
To
1:14:59
talk
1:14:59
to
1:14:59
him
1:14:59
right
1:15:00
now.
1:15:00
Your
1:15:01
face.
1:15:01
He's
1:15:01
too
1:15:01
emotional.
1:15:05
Well,
1:15:05
thank
1:15:05
you
1:15:05
guys
1:15:05
so
1:15:06
much
1:15:06
for
1:15:06
educating
1:15:07
us
1:15:07
on
1:15:07
a
1:15:08
whole
1:15:08
new
1:15:09
way
1:15:09
to
1:15:09
think
1:15:09
and
1:15:10
to
1:15:11
educate
1:15:11
ourselves
1:15:12
and.
1:15:12
Listening
1:15:12
and
1:15:13
being
1:15:13
open
1:15:13
minded,
1:15:14
like,
1:15:14
that's.
1:15:14
That's
1:15:14
always
1:15:14
what
1:15:15
gets
1:15:15
me
1:15:15
excited.
1:15:15
Yeah,
1:15:16
us
1:15:16
too.
1:15:18
Absolutely.
1:15:19
Yeah,
1:15:19
exactly.
1:15:19
That's
1:15:20
what
1:15:20
we
1:15:20
try
1:15:20
to
1:15:20
be,
1:15:21
isn't
1:15:21
it?
1:15:22
Yeah,
1:15:22
just
1:15:22
kind
1:15:22
of.
1:15:24
No,
1:15:24
there's
1:15:24
not
1:15:24
only
1:15:24
one
1:15:25
way
1:15:25
to
1:15:25
do
1:15:25
things.
1:15:26
There's
1:15:26
not.
1:15:27
Well,
1:15:27
you
1:15:28
heard
1:15:28
unschooling,
1:15:29
deschooling
1:15:30
and
1:15:30
all
1:15:30
the
1:15:30
things
1:15:30
here
1:15:31
from
1:15:31
Sam
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sold.
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Right?
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So
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skirts
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out.
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Did
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you
1:15:41
like
1:15:41
the
1:15:41
episode
1:15:42
that
1:15:42
you
1:15:42
heard
1:15:42
today?
1:15:43
Great.
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Share
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it
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with
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a
1:15:45
friend.
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And
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don't
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forget
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to
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rate
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and
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review.
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Sam.