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Who's Hungary for Balaton Park 🇭🇺🍴🏁 MotoGP Pit Talk · Pit Talk

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Speaker 1: The hills were alive with the sounds of Moto GP
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Speaker 1: and a Prillier on pole, a rookie on the podium,
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Speaker 1: and a double slide right off the star line. How
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Speaker 1: else do you sum up the Austrian Grand Prix. For
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Speaker 1: some writers it was a weekend of celebration and for
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Speaker 1: others nothing but pure misery. Curses were broken, champagne was sprayed,
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Speaker 1: and yes, Matt Burt definitely called it a Spielberg blockbuster
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Speaker 1: one too many times. Love your Bertie, But this week
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Speaker 1: Pittalk Podcast is brought to you by Shannon's Insurance. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Rinita Vanmullen, And if monogp Analysis were a
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Speaker 1: winner Schnitzel, he'd be the crisp Golden Crust.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Matt Clayton.
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Speaker 1: Matt, we had to go for a funny intro because
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Speaker 1: this whole weekend, I feel like, was just you couldn't
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Speaker 1: have written it as a blockbuster as a Matt No
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Speaker 1: plenty of times.
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you were just going through all the things
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Speaker 3: that happened. It's one of those race weekends where that
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Speaker 3: many things happen that you go back and go, oh yeah,
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Speaker 3: Jack Miller blew his bike up on Friday and had
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Speaker 3: to sit out the start of Saturday practice and got
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Speaker 3: fired a thousand euros to dumping fluid all over the track.
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Speaker 3: That was about the thirteenth most important thing that happened
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Speaker 3: over the course of the weekend. It just felt like
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Speaker 3: there was so much going on and so you've done
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Speaker 3: a reasonable job to encapsulate that over the weekend. The
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Speaker 3: only disappointing thing for me was no schnitzel's were eaten
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Speaker 3: by me over the course of the weekend, so I
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Speaker 3: didn't completely get into the Austrian GP spirits. I might
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Speaker 3: have to do something about that next time.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, well, what are you going to do for Hungary,
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Speaker 1: because like, you've got to get into the full the
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Speaker 1: experience being in Melbourne, right, You can't just peace out there.
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Speaker 3: In the cold, No, I know the culinary experience of Melbourne.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure I could dig out a Hungarian restaurant from somewhere.
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Speaker 3: Melbourne's got those places covered. But yeah, missed out on
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Speaker 3: the schnitzel. That was a rookie mistake by me.
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Speaker 1: Well, Mark Markes didn't miss out on the podium or
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Speaker 1: the win this weekend, So.
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Speaker 4: No denying Mark. Marqus he's the man of the hour.
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Speaker 1: What else can you say about him at the moment.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just got He's got everything so under control
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Speaker 3: at the moment in that, you know, both races, in
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Speaker 3: the sprint behind his brother and in the main race
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Speaker 3: behind Marco Betzeki, you just thought, all right, it's a
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Speaker 3: matter of time. I think what the interesting thing was
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Speaker 3: for me and about you watching it was that there
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Speaker 3: was an inevitability with the spread that he would get
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Speaker 3: past Alex and that would be the end of that,
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Speaker 3: which it was. The Grand Prix for me was interesting
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Speaker 3: in that he clearly decided when he was going to
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Speaker 3: go against Betzeki, and Bazeki fought back and really made
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Speaker 3: him work for it, which I think his testament to
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Speaker 3: just how confident he is at the moment, how good
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Speaker 3: at Prillier are at the moment, they're clearly the second
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Speaker 3: best bike and Bodo GP right now. But the thing
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Speaker 3: I loved about Mark is like, well, I think he said,
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Speaker 3: you know, I decided to step back for a few
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Speaker 3: laps and breathe a bit, have a little sleep, have
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Speaker 3: a rethink, have a reset, and then I'll just pass
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Speaker 3: him somewhere else where he can't immediately cut back past me.
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Speaker 3: So market is calculating and cunning, bess, but fair play
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Speaker 3: to a Prillier generally and Bozeki specifically, because this is
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Speaker 3: just not one or two races now that he's been good,
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Speaker 3: he's been genuinely since Silverstone, and he's getting more confident,
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Speaker 3: the bike's getting better. They were absolutely hopeless on Friday Apriliant.
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Speaker 3: They're both in Q one. So for Berzeki to come
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Speaker 3: through Q one, take pole position, score a podium in
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Speaker 3: the GP, nearly score a podium in the sprint, that
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Speaker 3: was the big story out of this weekend. But we
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Speaker 3: can't sort of just gloss over the fact that Mark
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Speaker 3: Marquez is on a twelve race winning streak, six perfect
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Speaker 3: weekends from Aragon to Austria and this championship, which it
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Speaker 3: was inevitable before. But if he's winning at the Red
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Speaker 3: Bull Ring, then frankly everyone else as well go home
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Speaker 3: at this point because if there was anywhere he was
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Speaker 3: going to lose, it was going to be there.
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Speaker 1: I think maybe you've mentioned it before on the pod
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Speaker 1: and end. Something that I'm thinking about is I kind
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Speaker 1: of just want Mark to wrap up this championship because
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Speaker 1: then I want to see him play and have fun,
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Speaker 1: because I feel like at the moment, he says in
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Speaker 1: the press conferences, you know, I'm not thinking about numbers.
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Speaker 1: I'm just here to win. We'll just win, just wrap
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Speaker 1: it out, like you said, and then go and play,
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Speaker 1: and then let's show us what you really can do
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Speaker 1: on a Moto GP bike.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's one of those
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Speaker 3: things that it's inevitable that you do start to do
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Speaker 3: the mats when you've got this much of a lead.
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Speaker 3: And as much as he's never going to take anything
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Speaker 3: for granted because of what's happened to him since he
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Speaker 3: won that sixth title in twenty nineteen, it does become
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Speaker 3: a process of all right, if I get this, then
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Speaker 3: i'll be this far in a head, and so on
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Speaker 3: and so forth. You start running the numbers at this point.
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Speaker 3: There are a lot of stats that came out of
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Speaker 3: the weekend that you can just sort of gloss over.
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Speaker 3: But I did save two for you because I thought
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Speaker 3: you'd like both of them. One. You probably already worked
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Speaker 3: this out. He's already scored more points this year that
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Speaker 3: he scored last year. There's nine rounds to go, he's
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Speaker 3: already scored more points he did in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 3: The other thing that's absolutely staggering, there's only actually nine
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Speaker 3: people now that mathematically cad win the World Championship. So
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Speaker 3: if Mark took the rest of the year off, it's
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Speaker 3: only the eight guys behind him that there's only enough
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Speaker 3: points left for the eight guys behind him to actually
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Speaker 3: win the championship. Everybody else is already eliminated from championship contention,
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Speaker 3: and it's August. It does show you the sort of
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Speaker 3: season that he's having. But I'm a bit like you, like,
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Speaker 3: no matter when it is that he gets this thing
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Speaker 3: wrapped up. Towards the back end of the year, there
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Speaker 3: will be a race and a track somewhere where he
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Speaker 3: won't have to sort of go against his instincts. I
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Speaker 3: guess I kind of feel sometimes at the moment that
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Speaker 3: he's kind of having a conversation with himself, like, you
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Speaker 3: don't need to do this, you don't need to do this.
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Speaker 3: Once the championship is done, then we'll be able to
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Speaker 3: see him completely unleashed. And the way things are going right,
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Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to have a live championship
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Speaker 3: by the time we get to Philip Island. But we
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Speaker 3: might see Mark unleashed at Philip Island. Now that with
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Speaker 3: no championship permutations to think about, could be a lot
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Speaker 3: of fun because you know, at the moment we don't
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Speaker 3: actually know how fast he is, because he's just fast
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Speaker 3: enough to win Grand Prix. How fast is he actually
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Speaker 3: we might find out at the end of the year.
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Speaker 4: I think you smack bang on with that.
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Speaker 1: I think you know, if your listeners, if you're at
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Speaker 1: home on the couch, bring your friends, bring your friends,
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Speaker 1: are family over making an event because I think we're
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Speaker 1: going to see an incredible Mark Marquez at Philip Island,
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Speaker 1: and if you're lucky enough to be there as well,
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Speaker 1: then what a race that's going to be. But let's
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Speaker 1: go back to Duke Caddy, because yes, Mark celebrating happy days.
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Speaker 1: Peko Banyaya sad face, he's just nowhere. And I think
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Speaker 1: when you were talking about Betzechi, just before you know Betzeki,
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Speaker 1: Mark passed him. Betzecki gave it back straight away. You
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Speaker 1: see it with Peco, Mark passes him, he kind of
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Speaker 1: tries and then he just dropped back. But this weekend
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Speaker 1: he just dropped back and he just dropped back now
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Speaker 1: we know we had that trouble on Saturday's sprint though,
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Speaker 1: where I think he was blaming the tire right because,
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Speaker 1: like I mentioned in the preview, there was that weird
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Speaker 1: slide with him in Furman off the start line where
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Speaker 1: they just kind of slid across the start line.
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Speaker 4: So lucky there was no incident there. But even on
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Speaker 4: Sunday Peko.
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Speaker 1: He's struggling. I don't know how else to explain it.
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Speaker 1: He's mentally and physically defeated.
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Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I mean, look the sprint, I'm
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Speaker 3: almost prepared to write a line through because he had
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Speaker 3: the crazy slide off the start. There was clearly something
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Speaker 3: going on with the tyre. He ran really deep into
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Speaker 3: turn one and just parked it. In the end, you
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Speaker 3: can rule the line under that. The thing with the
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Speaker 3: grown There's this pattern with him now right in that
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Speaker 3: he's generally qualifying okay about where you would expect him,
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Speaker 3: and he out qualified his team mate that that was
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Speaker 3: decent in Austria, and we know that's a track he's
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Speaker 3: been really good at in the past. He starts reasonably well,
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Speaker 3: he's pretty feisty in the first couple of laps, but
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Speaker 3: then once he sort of gets overtaken for the first time,
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Speaker 3: like sort of four or five laps in. It almost
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Speaker 3: feels like he does the big sigh and he's kind
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Speaker 3: of just resigned to his fate at that point. And
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Speaker 3: never at any point when he sort of got knocked
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Speaker 3: back from second or third. Never at any point did
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Speaker 3: you think, oh, it's all right, he'll come back, this
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Speaker 3: will be fine, he'll launch some attacks on people. The
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Speaker 3: thing that was a bit stark for me, and this
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Speaker 3: is like a two time world champion. I almost felt
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Speaker 3: that he was getting bullied on Sunday like the past
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Speaker 3: that in the second last corner that Acosta and Aldegare
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Speaker 3: put on him when they went through at the same time.
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Speaker 3: That was worderline disrespectful for a two time world champion
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Speaker 3: just to get bullied like that. But I think Peco
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Speaker 3: at the moment is maybe they feel that he can
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Speaker 3: almost kind of be picked on a little bit because
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Speaker 3: his body language, everything that he says, he sounds super
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Speaker 3: defeated to me. And what was so interesting was that
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Speaker 3: we know that the relationship with him and Docatti's just
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Speaker 3: been absolutely rock solid, right as you would expect because
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Speaker 3: he's either won the championship or been runner up for
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Speaker 3: the past four years. There's a Dacadie's thrilled because they
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Speaker 3: bet the house on Mark Marquees and it's coming home
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Speaker 3: in spades for them. That decision to choose Marquez over
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Speaker 3: Juge Martine effectively last year, that's paid itself off many,
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Speaker 3: many times over already. There's a sense of frustration with
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Speaker 3: Banyaya now, and I think on both sides, Like Banaia
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Speaker 3: said after the race, you know, I need some answers
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Speaker 3: for this, and you get the sense that Gjacadie are like, look,
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Speaker 3: we're hurting this thing upside down. We're doing every possible thing.
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Speaker 3: You've been amazing for us, but can we just get
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Speaker 3: on with this please. There's a sense of frustration with
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Speaker 3: all of this, and I suspect that he's so in
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Speaker 3: his own head now, not necessarily because he can't beat Mark,
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Speaker 3: because I think he's really stick enough to know that
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Speaker 3: nobody can beat Mark, but the fact that he can't
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Speaker 3: get close to being the writer that we've seen over
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Speaker 3: the pa past few years. I don't see how that
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Speaker 3: changes in the next nine rounds because clearly the bike
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Speaker 3: and him just haven't worked. So something needs to change
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Speaker 3: for next year, does the machinery change or just heat change,
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Speaker 3: And so there's this growing frustration here. I don't think
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Speaker 3: there's some split that's going to happen anytime soon, but
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Speaker 3: imagine if we're still having this conversation in twelve months time,
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Speaker 3: and it's been twelve eighteen months of this the I
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Speaker 3: cannot quite get my head around. You add the sprints
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Speaker 3: and the Grand Prix together. This year, Mark Marcus has
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Speaker 3: won twenty one races. Peko's won one race, and that
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Speaker 3: was gifted to him because Mark crashed from the lead
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Speaker 3: in Kota. And when we were talking about this amazing
9:37
Speaker 3: partnership between Marquees and Banjo and oh, it's going to
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Speaker 3: be so exciting and there'll be so much tension because
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Speaker 3: it's going to be close and it's going to be brilliant.
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Speaker 3: Mark's walking into Pecko's team. Of all the storylines we
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Speaker 3: thought were going to happen this year, it just hasn't
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Speaker 3: happened because Mark's been Mark and Peko's just been an
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Speaker 3: absolute shell of who he's been for the past couple
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Speaker 3: of years. I'd personally love to see him pick it
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Speaker 3: up because having those two fight for meaningful things is
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Speaker 3: a storyline that Motor GP could use right now, but
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Speaker 3: it seems like an absolute pipe dream. He seems completely
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Speaker 3: lost to finish eighth at a track where but I
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Speaker 3: think I worked it out before last weekend he had
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Speaker 3: not led for one lap in three years in Austria
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two to twenty four. I think he'd led
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Speaker 3: all but one lap in the Grand Prix's there, and
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Speaker 3: he finished eighth, and he's behind three ktms and he's
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Speaker 3: behind a rookie on a Ducati. Like it's hard to
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Speaker 3: see how it gets worse.
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Speaker 1: Makes me think next year they're going to go on
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Speaker 1: to as seeing in parentheses, a GP twenty six if
10:36
Speaker 1: we don't even know if they're really on a GP
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Speaker 1: twenty five, but it's a GP twenty four plus whatever, Matt,
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Speaker 1: because you know the rules and everything inside out, and
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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking off this my head. Here, is there
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Speaker 1: a way that Peco could possibly go back to that
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Speaker 1: GP twenty four because there's no point in them changing
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Speaker 1: too much before the twenty seven rules come in.
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Speaker 3: Right Yeah, And that's and that's the conundrum, right, like
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Speaker 3: do you make wholes changes to what should be an
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Speaker 3: evolution of this year's bike to go back to something
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Speaker 3: that appeas is one rider, when every single piece of
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Speaker 3: it's going in the bin for twenty twenty seven anyway,
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Speaker 3: for Dicati and for everybody else. That's the problem with this.
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Speaker 3: I think the interesting part about it is that, and
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Speaker 3: you know the riders will never talk about this, but
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Speaker 3: the twenty four, as in last year's tocaty, still seems
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Speaker 3: like the better bike. And I say this in that
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Speaker 3: Furman Aldegere is finishing on podiums and he's been and
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Speaker 3: he's a rookie and he's been inconsistent, but he's still
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Speaker 3: riding what is probably the most manageable bike to ride
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Speaker 3: on the grid. And Alex Marques is having by far
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Speaker 3: the best season of his career on a GP twenty four.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if the twenty five is better than
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Speaker 3: the twenty four. It probably isn't, but it also shows
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Speaker 3: you how good Marquees is. Like you wonder to see
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Speaker 3: yourself right now. Imagine if you had Mark on Alex's bike,
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Speaker 3: or Aldegerz bike or Morbidelli's bike on the twenty four,
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Speaker 3: which is clearly a championship winning machine, what would he
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Speaker 3: be doing to everybody on that bike? So that's the
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Speaker 3: curiosity for me in that it's not as easy as
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Speaker 3: just saying O Peko will just basically give you last
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Speaker 3: year's bike with some new stickers on it and off
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Speaker 3: you go. What was interesting? You probably picked up on
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Speaker 3: this in the post script for Austria. There's the Massano
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Speaker 3: test coming up, and it sounds like Bannaya's angling to
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Speaker 3: try and get some laps out of twenty four and
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Speaker 3: that'll answer the question once and for all. Is it
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Speaker 3: me that can't ride this twenty five? And because I
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Speaker 3: was so used to how good the twenty four was,
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Speaker 3: or is there something else happening here? He needs to
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Speaker 3: almost like back to back them to see what the
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Speaker 3: feeling is. Maybe there'll be something on the twenty four
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Speaker 3: and go, oh it does this that the twenty five
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Speaker 3: doesn't do it, and they'll be able to make a
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Speaker 3: change because you have to think, like the last time
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Speaker 3: Peco wrote at twenty four was at the end of
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Speaker 3: last year. There's several riders in that decade stable that
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Speaker 3: never De jan Antonio has never written a twenty four.
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Speaker 3: He went from the twenty three to the twenty five,
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Speaker 3: as did Mark coming from Grassini, so it'd be super
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Speaker 3: interesting if he gets his way, gets a chance to
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Speaker 3: try the twenty four at Massano, and then if that
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Speaker 3: unlocks something that he's been missing, because I actually think
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Speaker 3: silly as it sounds, for two time world champion, he's
13:01
Speaker 3: kind of underrated. He's an incredibly good rider when things
13:04
Speaker 3: are right. We've seen that he didn't lose last year's
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Speaker 3: World Championship because he was slow. He lost last year's
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Speaker 3: World Championship because he was He crashed him many times
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Speaker 3: from positions of advantage. There's a great rider in there.
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Speaker 3: We've seen that for the best part of four years.
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Speaker 3: But he's just completely a well at the moment. And
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Speaker 3: I think it's more it's less the fact that Mark's
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Speaker 3: beating him and he's in his own head about Mark.
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Speaker 3: Then he's in his own head about why can't I
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Speaker 3: make this bike work.
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Speaker 1: I think you mentioned the Morbidelli and that's one thing
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Speaker 1: that I was thinking of the weekend is how much
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Speaker 1: would it be playing on Peco's mind if this is
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Speaker 1: something he'd even consider as the fact of Like, Morbidelli's
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Speaker 1: on the GP twenty four and he's not doing anything
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Speaker 1: with it, but then Pecko's on this bike and still
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Speaker 1: struggling is like going, well, you've got this bike, why
13:49
Speaker 1: are you not doing it? And if that is like
13:51
Speaker 1: he's playing, But I think he kind of answered the
13:53
Speaker 1: question there with what you're saying is if he can
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Speaker 1: get this test and he can make those comparisons to
13:58
Speaker 1: figure out what that wants percent is because we posted
14:02
Speaker 1: an interview with Casey and Casey was saying that, you know,
14:05
Speaker 1: Pecker and Christian have a really good working relationship at
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Speaker 1: your Caddy. So whatever it is that they're missing, they
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Speaker 1: will find it, but it's just taking a lot longer
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Speaker 1: than what they anticipated.
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Speaker 3: Well, and until Picco actually gets his way and gets
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Speaker 3: the chance to ride this twenty four, everything that you
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Speaker 3: think is different between the twenty four and five is
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Speaker 3: purely speculative because you haven't ridden the twenty four for
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Speaker 3: so long. If you were to ride the two different
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Speaker 3: bikes on the same day, which you can do at
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Speaker 3: a test, obviously there will be all right on this day.
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Speaker 3: At this point in time, I know that I like
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Speaker 3: a B and C on the twenty twenty four bike better.
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Speaker 3: Can we make some changes to try and get aspects
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Speaker 3: of the twenty five bike more like that? And then
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Speaker 3: if that doesn't unlock the performance that he's missing, then
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Speaker 3: at least you've tried it. At the moment, it's purely speculative.
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Speaker 3: He actually needs data and he needs feeling right now
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Speaker 3: to be able to properly back to back these things.
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Speaker 3: So it sort of shapes as a bit of a
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, this season's gone. It's not a key
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Speaker 3: moment for this season, but it's more what does it
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Speaker 3: mean for the end of this season leading into next
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Speaker 3: because I almost see twenty five and twenty six is
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Speaker 3: like being one long season over two years, because the
15:08
Speaker 3: rules are pretty much the same, and you know, no
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Speaker 3: one's really moving around. Everyone's looking for twenty seven. If
15:13
Speaker 3: he wants to be competitive next year, that's got to
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Speaker 3: start now, and then maybe that starts after Masano if
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Speaker 3: he gets a chance to test the twenty four.
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Speaker 1: Again, from a sad note to a little bit of
15:22
Speaker 1: a happy hour one, let's talk about how other podium places.
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Speaker 1: So we've mentioned Mark, we've mentioned but Zechi, you said
15:28
Speaker 1: furman Aldeger who had this incredible like mid to late
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Speaker 1: race pace that for a second there looked like he
15:34
Speaker 1: was going to really charge Mark.
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Speaker 4: Then pedia A Costa also.
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Speaker 1: Managed to get on the sprint podium on Saturday for KTM.
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Speaker 1: So let's touch on Katim.
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Speaker 2: Because they're a mixed back at the moment, aren't they.
15:47
Speaker 1: You see Pedro saying, oh, we're making the progress and
15:50
Speaker 1: we're heading in the right direction, and.
15:52
Speaker 2: Then you hear Brad Binda just go squea kend Liz terrible.
15:56
Speaker 3: It's interesting with them in that I feel that the
15:59
Speaker 3: you know, the start of the we know they had
16:00
Speaker 3: their financial issues and there was development late to the
16:03
Speaker 3: bike and so on and so forth. You felt that
16:05
Speaker 3: a Costa was getting pretty much everything out of that bike,
16:08
Speaker 3: or pretty much anything it had to provide at that point.
16:10
Speaker 3: And you know, we'd go weeks and you go, oh
16:12
Speaker 3: and Aabastian and he's on the grid. I haven't seen
16:14
Speaker 3: him for three weeks because he was so far down
16:16
Speaker 3: the back. I think you can see how that is
16:18
Speaker 3: getting better now, because yes, a cost has been up
16:20
Speaker 3: there the last couple of races. Bruno, he was good,
16:23
Speaker 3: fourth in the Grand Prix here, third in the podium
16:25
Speaker 3: in Austria. But you look up and you go, huh
16:27
Speaker 3: and Aabastian and he's in the top five. Brad Benders
16:29
Speaker 3: in the top seven. So It shows you that things
16:32
Speaker 3: are getting better because there's more of their riders that
16:35
Speaker 3: are doing more with it. Now we know Maverick Vinielle
16:37
Speaker 3: is injured, so he didn't get to We didn't get
16:39
Speaker 3: to see what he was going to do there. The
16:41
Speaker 3: only thing I'd slightly caveat that with it's my asterisk,
16:45
Speaker 3: which is not useful in an audio podcast. But I
16:47
Speaker 3: would say Austria is such a random circuit, right, It's
16:51
Speaker 3: not like anywhere else on the calendar. So I don't
16:54
Speaker 3: know if three ktms in the top seven in Austria
16:57
Speaker 3: is like some sort of Okay, this is what they're
16:59
Speaker 3: going to do now every other track because there's kind
17:02
Speaker 3: of nowhere else. Like the Red Bull Ring, it is
17:03
Speaker 3: a complete one of one. It plays massively to Katium
17:07
Speaker 3: has enormous straight line speed. We know that, and you
17:10
Speaker 3: look at that Austrian layer. It's basically four gigantic strakes
17:14
Speaker 3: with a bit of a quigly bit in the middle.
17:15
Speaker 3: There's not much to it. It's a bit of an
17:17
Speaker 3: oversized go kart track in a lot of respects. So
17:20
Speaker 3: how's that going to translate when you get to more
17:23
Speaker 3: fast and flowing tracks, how's that going to translate to
17:26
Speaker 3: somewhere like Messano, which tends to be a pretty good
17:28
Speaker 3: bell weather for what a lot of these bikes can do.
17:31
Speaker 3: So definitely better than it was a costa. He's certainly
17:35
Speaker 3: not holding back a costa. Like watching him in qualifying
17:38
Speaker 3: at the moment and watching him on the opening laps
17:40
Speaker 3: of a race. He is absolutely taking no prisoners, which
17:42
Speaker 3: I kind of enjoy. It's been good, good fun.
17:45
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it makes it a bit more exciting.
17:46
Speaker 3: Right, Well, he's absolutely going to make you have an
17:49
Speaker 3: uncomfortable moment in a past like he will not care.
17:52
Speaker 3: He will put the bike somewhere and then you can
17:53
Speaker 3: just decide how hard you want to fight him. But
17:55
Speaker 3: he's putting it there, that's what he's going to do.
17:57
Speaker 3: So yeah, super fisty, which I like, and good to
18:01
Speaker 3: see them. Certainly it's an important race for them, right
18:03
Speaker 3: Austrian GP, red Bull branding all over the bike. Good
18:06
Speaker 3: weekend for them. I need almost like I need more
18:10
Speaker 3: of a sample size to believe that they're kind of back.
18:13
Speaker 3: But you'd have to say that there's this quite clear
18:16
Speaker 3: hierarchy at the moment, and I'm going to set you
18:18
Speaker 3: up for what this is referred to as a professional
18:20
Speaker 3: segue in the business, because you've got Tocaddie in step one.
18:23
Speaker 3: Aprili is clearly the next best. Katiem I think is
18:26
Speaker 3: pretty much the third best now, not as good as
18:28
Speaker 3: a Prillier, but better than everybody else. Honda is looking
18:31
Speaker 3: quite good. We probably should talk about your mirror at
18:32
Speaker 3: one point. And then in Austria you had Yamaha. I
18:37
Speaker 3: do believe that will be on your run sheet, so
18:39
Speaker 3: why don't we go there?
18:41
Speaker 4: You hit the nail on the head. That was the
18:42
Speaker 4: next thing.
18:42
Speaker 1: I was going to say, let's go from a high
18:44
Speaker 1: to a low, because why not Yamaha. Holy cra Yeah,
18:48
Speaker 1: that's literally what can you say is holy crabby? Even
18:53
Speaker 1: Fabio Cordoriro's post race de reef, I've taken nothing from
18:56
Speaker 1: this weekend And you wrote in your article this quote
18:59
Speaker 1: from Jack Miller. We prosted part of it on socials
19:02
Speaker 1: and he's just going I tried everything and there was
19:06
Speaker 1: nothing like what could they do?
19:09
Speaker 2: This was just it was out of a horror movie.
19:13
Speaker 3: The other I listened to all the post race deve
19:15
Speaker 3: briefs and the three words that stuck out to me,
19:17
Speaker 3: Quaaterero said, ridiculous and useless, and Miguel Olivera said irrelevant,
19:23
Speaker 3: and I thought that was that. I mean, Miguel's more
19:27
Speaker 3: one of you, more sort of genial riders, and he
19:28
Speaker 3: always comes up with a good soundbit. I thought that
19:30
Speaker 3: was a pretty cutting comment. But this is how horrific
19:33
Speaker 3: this was. All four Yamahas were in the bottom five
19:36
Speaker 3: in qualifying. Three Yamahas were the last three finishes in
19:40
Speaker 3: the sprint, and all four Yamahas were the last four
19:43
Speaker 3: finishes in the Grand Prix. Kuaaterero fell into a point
19:46
Speaker 3: because some other people retired in front of him. He
19:49
Speaker 3: was six seconds behind the worst non Yamaha, which was Ayagura.
19:54
Speaker 3: He was twenty five seconds behind Mark Marquez in a
19:58
Speaker 3: twenty eight lap race. He was the only Yamaha rider
20:00
Speaker 3: that wasn't a second to lapse lower than Mark. And
20:03
Speaker 3: that's not Mark pushing. And we're talking about Austria being
20:07
Speaker 3: a one off track. It's every Yamaha technician's nightmare. The
20:12
Speaker 3: bike doesn't have straight line speed. It really struggles to
20:15
Speaker 3: get out of slow speed corners after heavy breaking, which
20:18
Speaker 3: is all Austria is. It's just point and squirt point
20:20
Speaker 3: and squirt point and squirt Jack was saying that he'd
20:23
Speaker 3: get up to one hundred and twenty one hundred and
20:25
Speaker 3: thirty k's an hour and the thing would just be
20:27
Speaker 3: spinning as you're going up through the gears. OLIVERA was
20:30
Speaker 3: saying he was still spinning in six gear, and so
20:33
Speaker 3: there's absolutely no rear grip. They have a special tire
20:36
Speaker 3: for Austria because of how hectic the acceleration is there.
20:39
Speaker 3: They only use it there in Thailand, and so all
20:41
Speaker 3: the Amaha was doing was just spitting its guts out
20:44
Speaker 3: every single time it came out of a corner, and
20:46
Speaker 3: you could just see how gently they were trying to
20:49
Speaker 3: feed the power in, but it didn't make any difference
20:51
Speaker 3: at all. It was utterly miserable. I think the only
20:55
Speaker 3: salvation for them is that we know it's a really
20:59
Speaker 3: good bikes still on flowing circuits. We know that it's
21:02
Speaker 3: a bike good enough three races previously for Quatrero to
21:05
Speaker 3: be on pole. So it's a particular type of circuit,
21:09
Speaker 3: but you add all the variables there, circuit layout, hard tire,
21:13
Speaker 3: no top end, can't get out of a slow speed corner.
21:16
Speaker 3: It was almost like they were in this other category.
21:18
Speaker 3: It's like they just let four Mota two bikes on
21:20
Speaker 3: the grid. It was absolutely grim. I think the only
21:24
Speaker 3: thing that's good about it, if you can use the
21:26
Speaker 3: word good here is I think I wrote this. I'm
21:28
Speaker 3: trying to remember the number now. I think those four
21:30
Speaker 3: riders that they have Yamaha of one about twenty five
21:32
Speaker 3: Grand Prix between them, Like, you're not talking about a
21:34
Speaker 3: bunch of rookies and no hopers here, and they're all
21:36
Speaker 3: in the same part of the racetrack, all struggling with
21:38
Speaker 3: the same problems. So this is not a rider problem.
21:41
Speaker 3: This is an equipment problem, and it's something that if
21:44
Speaker 3: there was another Austrian Grand Prix this week, or a
21:46
Speaker 3: circuit like it, then you'd be terrified as Yamahar as
21:49
Speaker 3: to what you were going to get. There's nowhere quite
21:52
Speaker 3: like Austria. It's not been as bad as this all year,
21:54
Speaker 3: and I don't think it'll be as bad as this
21:56
Speaker 3: in the future. But if you ever wanted a snapshot
21:59
Speaker 3: of Honda need to sorry, what Yamaha need to do
22:02
Speaker 3: to get this bike up to front running speed watch
22:05
Speaker 3: the Austrian Grand Prix. Maybe with your fingers over your eyes.
22:08
Speaker 3: If you're a higher engineer because it was pretty grim,
22:10
Speaker 3: but it was just hopelessly. I was just you're just
22:13
Speaker 3: looking at the lap times, going how were these things
22:15
Speaker 3: this slow? But they were all this slow, So there's
22:18
Speaker 3: nothing to do with any of the four riders. You'd
22:20
Speaker 3: have to say.
22:21
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you pointed that out, because I feel
22:23
Speaker 1: like sometimes for listeners it's so easy to quickly point
22:26
Speaker 1: fingers or fans going, you know, Jack Miller, look at
22:30
Speaker 1: him and he was second last, or wherever you finished
22:33
Speaker 1: on the weekend. It's really good that you point out,
22:35
Speaker 1: actually it was all for yamahas And I think in
22:39
Speaker 1: your article I remember reading a quote from Jack saying,
22:43
Speaker 1: you know, a few weekends ago, Fabio put this bike
22:46
Speaker 1: on pole, like you said, and now.
22:48
Speaker 2: We're all in the bottom of QQ.
22:50
Speaker 1: One, So how are we meant to how are we
22:54
Speaker 1: meant to ride around here? And I think it's kind
22:56
Speaker 1: of calling from what a lot of I'm reading online
22:58
Speaker 1: is when the new engine coming for Yamaha, is this
23:02
Speaker 1: going to kind of fix that problem?
23:03
Speaker 4: Because is that the.
23:04
Speaker 1: Only real variable as to why they are struggling so
23:08
Speaker 1: much at a circuit like this when everyone else SEMs
23:10
Speaker 1: to be does that jump better.
23:12
Speaker 4: Right.
23:13
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the only varia. I don't think
23:16
Speaker 3: it's the only variabil. It is a variable.
23:18
Speaker 2: Right.
23:18
Speaker 3: We know that Yamaha is the only brand that runs
23:20
Speaker 3: you in line for since Zuki left at the end
23:23
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two. It's not the It's not like
23:26
Speaker 3: the magic bullet for your problems. Right. You don't just
23:28
Speaker 3: get a V four and suddenly everything's fine. What I suspect, well,
23:33
Speaker 3: what you'd love them to do is to say, well,
23:35
Speaker 3: we've got this V four project. It's bubbling away in
23:38
Speaker 3: the wings. It's not quite ready yet. But Yamaha in
23:42
Speaker 3: the past has tended to be let's make sure until
23:44
Speaker 3: it's one hundred and fifteen percent bulletproof ready before we
23:47
Speaker 3: bring it in. I'm not sure what you've got to
23:49
Speaker 3: lose at this point by at least running saying even
23:52
Speaker 3: if you just run Gosto Fernandez in a couple of
23:54
Speaker 3: races as a wildcard, or you even give someone like
23:57
Speaker 3: Kuaturra and say, look, we'll give you the option if
24:00
Speaker 3: you want to try this. I don't think they can
24:02
Speaker 3: go into twenty twenty six with questions as to whether
24:04
Speaker 3: the V four is the way to go. I think
24:06
Speaker 3: they need those questions to have been answered already, and
24:08
Speaker 3: then they make the decision. It's like, well, we're going
24:10
Speaker 3: to race in twenty six with the V four, so
24:12
Speaker 3: at least we're the same as everybody else, and you've
24:14
Speaker 3: got like for like comparison. At the moment, we don't
24:18
Speaker 3: know if it's purely an engine issue, because you know,
24:21
Speaker 3: it's just a variable. It's not the only variable. Yeah,
24:24
Speaker 3: this V four thing might not quite be ready yet,
24:27
Speaker 3: but what better way to maybe fast track the development
24:30
Speaker 3: of it. Let's just get it out there, even if
24:32
Speaker 3: we're running it with a wildcard or a test writer,
24:35
Speaker 3: and let's see what happens, because you're never going to know. Now.
24:38
Speaker 3: I guess from Yamaha's point of view, it's an utter
24:41
Speaker 3: disaster from a pr perspective if you put the thing
24:43
Speaker 3: out there and it's horribly slow, or it's unreliable, or
24:47
Speaker 3: it blows up or whatever it is. But I don't
24:49
Speaker 3: see how you're going to get the answer on to
24:51
Speaker 3: whether this is the way to go or not unless
24:53
Speaker 3: you actually try to do it. Again, we're talking before
24:55
Speaker 3: about theoretical versus actual. In the case of Banyaya, you've
25:00
Speaker 3: just got to buy the bullet and go for it.
25:02
Speaker 3: And if this is the thing they've got to be
25:04
Speaker 3: careful of. He is Quaaterero's their prize assets. You know,
25:08
Speaker 3: he's a top I wrote this the other day. To
25:11
Speaker 3: my mind, he's a top three writer on the grid. Still,
25:13
Speaker 3: he's an absolute a lister. The last thing you want
25:16
Speaker 3: to do as a company. I know, Fabio has been
25:18
Speaker 3: there for a very very long time. He's your biggest asset,
25:21
Speaker 3: and you want to keep him engaged and happy and
25:25
Speaker 3: motivated and ready to push this project forward because he's
25:29
Speaker 3: going to get super richy feet right if this doesn't
25:32
Speaker 3: work out for him. He's been there for a really
25:34
Speaker 3: long time. Yes, he's been loyal. Yes he's also been
25:37
Speaker 3: massively paid for the results that he's been getting. But
25:40
Speaker 3: this thing, it's been three years and so what a race? Right,
25:43
Speaker 3: every other manufacturer's won a race in that three year period,
25:45
Speaker 3: including some that aren't even on the grid anymore, and
25:48
Speaker 3: so something needs to change there philosophically for them to
25:51
Speaker 3: take a leap forward. Otherwise they are literally and metaphorically
25:55
Speaker 3: like they were in Austria. They're just spinning the wheels,
25:57
Speaker 3: going up and down on the same spot, don't they Yeah.
26:00
Speaker 4: I think you hit the nail on the head.
26:02
Speaker 1: My only worry I'm going to say worry is the
26:05
Speaker 1: word is for Yamaha. Is they're going to bring on
26:08
Speaker 1: Gusso Fernandez in and if they're going to test this engine,
26:10
Speaker 1: they're going to.
26:11
Speaker 4: Do it at Mategi in Japan.
26:12
Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think that's the right sorry not
26:15
Speaker 1: test it bring it in as.
26:16
Speaker 4: A wild card.
26:17
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right circuit even to
26:20
Speaker 1: kind of see if it compares two what else is
26:23
Speaker 1: out on the field right now?
26:25
Speaker 3: You know, Well, the thing with Motegi is you know
26:27
Speaker 3: it's going to rain at least one of the three
26:28
Speaker 3: days because it always does, because it's Motigai in September
26:31
Speaker 3: or October. So I agree with you on that front.
26:34
Speaker 3: You know, it would be interesting, and who knows whether
26:35
Speaker 3: they've got the resource to do this. We go back
26:38
Speaker 3: to this Mesano test. What if all four of the
26:41
Speaker 3: riders had a chance to actually ride the thing at
26:43
Speaker 3: a test and they again we're talking about comparing it
26:45
Speaker 3: to what they've already got. That to me seems like
26:48
Speaker 3: a more realistic thing to do. Let's get the race
26:50
Speaker 3: riders on this bike at a test. You don't have
26:53
Speaker 3: to tell everyone what you're riding and where you're riding it,
26:55
Speaker 3: what the settings are and all that. You do all
26:57
Speaker 3: that in the background, but at least you get them
26:59
Speaker 3: out there and you've got four really experienced heads who've
27:03
Speaker 3: won a lot of Grand Prix between them, and they
27:05
Speaker 3: can say this part of the engine is better, this
27:07
Speaker 3: part of the engine is worse. This is where we
27:09
Speaker 3: need to focus on. This is an improvement, to at
27:11
Speaker 3: least show them that you're doing absolutely everything behind the
27:14
Speaker 3: scenes to try and get this right. I don't think
27:18
Speaker 3: future weekends are going to be as grim as Austria was,
27:21
Speaker 3: But if you're Yamaha, you just can't have weekends like
27:24
Speaker 3: Austria because it was, you know, some of the words
27:26
Speaker 3: that quadraro us were a little bit lighter. I mean
27:28
Speaker 3: it was frankly, it was embarrassing what they were doing
27:30
Speaker 3: on the weekend.
27:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely definitely was. But let's go over to
27:35
Speaker 1: someone who didn't have an embarrassing weekend and we've got
27:38
Speaker 1: to give him a shout out.
27:39
Speaker 4: Juan Mia, finish your race, top ten, congratch one. I'm
27:44
Speaker 4: giving you a big round.
27:44
Speaker 1: Of applause here because this is like a milestone for him,
27:47
Speaker 1: and I know we shouldn't be like taking the mickey
27:49
Speaker 1: and everything, but not at all celebrating the fact that he.
27:52
Speaker 4: Actually finished a race.
27:53
Speaker 1: And when I thought was really cool is we actually
27:55
Speaker 1: saw him on the broadcast and the cameras were actually
27:57
Speaker 1: showing and I could I really see how much those
28:02
Speaker 1: Hondas were struggling with the front end going into the
28:04
Speaker 1: corner and the different line that he's really having to take.
28:07
Speaker 1: This is the first time I could see in a
28:08
Speaker 1: real race situation. I can't remember who he is around,
28:12
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure as a KTM and did you Caddy
28:14
Speaker 1: at this point, and they're taking fairly similar lines because
28:16
Speaker 1: they basically look like the same bike from the front
28:19
Speaker 1: now and then you see the Honda coming in and
28:21
Speaker 1: it's totally different and no wonder like it makes sense.
28:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was incredibly good. I have two notes in
28:27
Speaker 3: my notes here for as you aren't Yah. One, he
28:30
Speaker 3: didn't get knocked off the track by anybody else. That's
28:32
Speaker 3: always a bonus. That's his second best result since he's
28:35
Speaker 3: been at Honda. If you can believe that he finished
28:38
Speaker 3: fifth in India in twenty twenty three. That's how long
28:40
Speaker 3: it's been. And this wasn't a sixth place that owed
28:43
Speaker 3: itself to a bunch of people falling off or he
28:45
Speaker 3: got lucky or this all that happened. He kind of
28:48
Speaker 3: was having this weekend at Bruno where he qualified really
28:50
Speaker 3: well and they got punted by Alex Marquez and the
28:52
Speaker 3: race there, and it's the latest in a long list
28:55
Speaker 3: of incredibly bad luck for him. Really good ride, super
28:59
Speaker 3: super good ride, best honder over the course of the weekend,
29:01
Speaker 3: really impressive. We know that thing's not brilliant in the
29:04
Speaker 3: straight line, so you talk about the lines he was
29:06
Speaker 3: having to take to try and fight with ktms and
29:08
Speaker 3: to caddies, but fair play to him, and he would
29:11
Speaker 3: just be so relieved that he actually saw the checkered
29:13
Speaker 3: flag from the track and not watching it back in
29:16
Speaker 3: the box after someone had punted him. So yeah, good
29:19
Speaker 3: news story, and there's a good writer in there, and
29:21
Speaker 3: you know he never stops trying. It was just nice
29:23
Speaker 3: to see that he actually got some reward for that.
29:26
Speaker 1: And nice to see Raoul Fernandez as well on the
29:30
Speaker 1: track house that privily are up closer to the front.
29:32
Speaker 1: Nice to see like one of the satellite teams and
29:36
Speaker 1: also like the privately owned team a little bit closer
29:39
Speaker 1: to the front. We know I is really struggling at
29:41
Speaker 1: the moment. But apart from that rear right height device
29:44
Speaker 1: malfunction that was too often, I mean, Raoul's fighting for
29:48
Speaker 1: that top ten and top five position.
29:50
Speaker 4: Now.
29:51
Speaker 3: It's interesting in that, you know, if you looked at
29:53
Speaker 3: his career, it kind of feels like his story has
29:56
Speaker 3: been written by now. You know, it's like, well, this
29:57
Speaker 3: is who this guy is. He's been good. I reckon
30:00
Speaker 3: he's been good for about the last four or five rounds.
30:02
Speaker 3: He's making me reassess. I don't think he's ever going
30:06
Speaker 3: to be the rider that we saw him in Moto two.
30:09
Speaker 3: We're so awesome as a rookie. It's like, Wow, this
30:11
Speaker 3: guy could come into Motor GP and be anything. It's
30:14
Speaker 3: never quite materialized. But I don't think it's I don't
30:17
Speaker 3: think you can just sort of put him in the
30:19
Speaker 3: hopeless basket either. There's clearly a decent rider in there.
30:21
Speaker 3: The bike is getting better, he's starting to get some
30:24
Speaker 3: better results, and I think the thing that's really interesting
30:27
Speaker 3: here and this is where Mark is making the difference
30:28
Speaker 3: at the moment, it feels like the field is sort
30:31
Speaker 3: of compressing a little bit in that it's not just
30:33
Speaker 3: the Dakati companymore in that. Yeah, okay, we've had Dakati's
30:36
Speaker 3: a winning lots of races because they employ Mark Marquez,
30:39
Speaker 3: but you look at the variety of guys scrapping for podiums. Now,
30:42
Speaker 3: we talked about Bazeki, you mentioned a Costa before, probably
30:45
Speaker 3: is going a lot better. Juam is finishing in the
30:47
Speaker 3: top six, Yamaha has had pole positions this year. It's
30:50
Speaker 3: good in that it's not just Dakatti's one, two, three, four, five, six,
30:53
Speaker 3: which is what it was at the start of the year,
30:55
Speaker 3: which is really interesting. You can go back to like
30:57
Speaker 3: Thailand when you were there, it was so who's going
30:59
Speaker 3: to finish seventh? Because that's kind of what it felt like. So, yeah,
31:02
Speaker 3: we're getting the same guy winning a lot of the
31:04
Speaker 3: races because he's one of the greatest that's ever done it.
31:08
Speaker 3: What's going on behind him? It feels like it's a
31:10
Speaker 3: nice changing picture week on week, and this is what
31:12
Speaker 3: we want to see. We don't mind if there's one
31:15
Speaker 3: rider or manufacturer that's winning stuff, but we just don't
31:18
Speaker 3: want the same race every weekend where unless you're on
31:21
Speaker 3: a to Caddy you've got absolutely no chance. That's what
31:24
Speaker 3: it felt like last year. Right now, the other podium
31:27
Speaker 3: places to me feel super open, and that's what you
31:30
Speaker 3: want because you get interesting races.
31:32
Speaker 4: I'm really glad you brought that up because it made
31:33
Speaker 4: me think.
31:34
Speaker 1: When we spoke to Chris, my brother on the pod,
31:36
Speaker 1: and it's pointed to him, is this the time where
31:40
Speaker 1: we're going to start to see that separation happen? And
31:43
Speaker 1: I think he was like, no, I think it's going
31:45
Speaker 1: to take a little while longer. And then you mentioning that,
31:47
Speaker 1: it's like going, okay, well, yeah, there's not that big
31:50
Speaker 1: of a separation. I've had Marks in his own league.
31:53
Speaker 1: But everybody else is there now, All the other manufacturers
31:56
Speaker 1: are in it. It's not just to Caddy and the rest.
32:00
Speaker 3: And this is where it gets interesting, right because we
32:01
Speaker 3: talked about twenty five and twenty six sort of being
32:03
Speaker 3: one long season over two years. Next year, there will
32:07
Speaker 3: come a point where all these factories will start to
32:09
Speaker 3: focus much more on the new rule set than the
32:11
Speaker 3: current rule set. Right, it makes sense. Why would you
32:14
Speaker 3: invest a heap of time and resource of money into
32:16
Speaker 3: something that's going to be obsolete in a few months time.
32:19
Speaker 3: And often in any sort of motor sport, when you
32:21
Speaker 3: get a mature rule set and a mature set of
32:23
Speaker 3: regulations that's been going for a while, everyone kind of
32:26
Speaker 3: converges on this one way of how you need to
32:30
Speaker 3: go fast. It happens in Formula one all the time
32:32
Speaker 3: before rule resets. It's happening here as well. I actually
32:36
Speaker 3: think we could get a really quite competitive season next
32:39
Speaker 3: year for second place. And I say that because if
32:42
Speaker 3: Mark is upright and writing a decade and being Mark Marquez,
32:45
Speaker 3: then we're probably going to see a continuation of that.
32:47
Speaker 3: But I thought Austria was interesting in that I don't
32:49
Speaker 3: think you would have picked necessarily and Aldegaer Berzeki two
32:52
Speaker 3: to three in that Grand Prix after Friday. Bizeki was
32:55
Speaker 3: in Q one and Aldegaer, you know, he's not brilliant
32:59
Speaker 3: in qualifying and he's not over one lap. He's fantastic
33:01
Speaker 3: at the end of races, and so the fight for
33:03
Speaker 3: the minor places is certainly interesting at the moment. And
33:06
Speaker 3: you say, well, I mean I used to see some
33:07
Speaker 3: different guys win, but it's better than sixty caddies finishing one, two, three, four,
33:12
Speaker 3: five six. Because they're docaddies, it's at least some variety
33:14
Speaker 3: for us.
33:16
Speaker 1: Variety is definitely a word that we can say to
33:19
Speaker 1: talk about. The next subject I wanted to bring up
33:21
Speaker 1: because it looks like Diogo Morrera is going to Honda.
33:26
Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of rumors that he was going
33:28
Speaker 1: to go to Pramac Yamha, but Matt, I feel like
33:31
Speaker 1: you've got.
33:32
Speaker 4: Some juicy goss for us on this.
33:33
Speaker 2: So what do you know about the Morrera Moto GP
33:36
Speaker 2: move for next season?
33:37
Speaker 3: It sounds like there's he's got offers from Yamaha and Honda,
33:41
Speaker 3: and it looks like the Honda deal is going to
33:43
Speaker 3: be the one that gets over the line because it
33:44
Speaker 3: looks like it's longer three years instead of two, so
33:47
Speaker 3: that takes him across these two rule sets, and he's
33:49
Speaker 3: also going to get full factory status. The interesting thing
33:52
Speaker 3: for me is that I always thought that that second
33:55
Speaker 3: seat at ELSIR was kind of closed off because it
33:58
Speaker 3: was dependent on having a rider from Southeast Asia to
34:01
Speaker 3: keep the Iomitzu sponsorship. And we know that Lucio chechenelated
34:05
Speaker 3: doesn't mind a sponsor dollarphant he do when you're running
34:07
Speaker 3: a privateer team. It seems like Somkhat Chantra was clearly
34:11
Speaker 3: promoted too early and he wasn't ready and it's not
34:13
Speaker 3: worked at all, and he's currently injured and he scored
34:16
Speaker 3: one point for the entire season. It sounds like they're
34:19
Speaker 3: prepared to not have that Idamitzu money that they've had
34:23
Speaker 3: with Chantra and Nakagami before him to get Marera in there.
34:27
Speaker 3: The interesting part for me is that Brazil we know
34:29
Speaker 3: is going to have a Grand Prix next year. They're
34:31
Speaker 3: back on the calendar. You can't tell me that signing
34:35
Speaker 3: Marera for a privateer Honda team is not going to
34:37
Speaker 3: bring an incredible amount of commercial interest from Brazil. I'm
34:42
Speaker 3: not sure if you're familiar with the brand Petro brass
34:45
Speaker 3: it's the state owned Brazilian petroleum company that every single
34:49
Speaker 3: time a Brazilian driver's been in Formula One, there's been
34:51
Speaker 3: Petro Brustick is stuck on the side of those cars.
34:54
Speaker 3: So that could be your financial shortfall if you're losing Iamitsu,
34:58
Speaker 3: don't be surprised if we see some Petro bruss Because
35:00
Speaker 3: on an Elsie R Honda next year. If Marera is
35:02
Speaker 3: in there, it's super interesting to get a writer from
35:05
Speaker 3: a country where I guess it would be like what
35:07
Speaker 3: Alex Barross or someone was the last Brazilian we had,
35:09
Speaker 3: that's like, what twenty years ago. It's been a really,
35:11
Speaker 3: really long time, so that's cool, Like it's nice to
35:13
Speaker 3: have a different nationality in there. The flow on effect
35:17
Speaker 3: from this, which reading some reading a couple of stories
35:22
Speaker 3: from Oriel Pugamont with Autosport, who is almost the bible
35:24
Speaker 3: on these sorts of things. He's absolutely brilliant at it.
35:28
Speaker 3: It seems to me that this could be announced as
35:30
Speaker 3: early as this weekend. Perhaps what that would do is
35:34
Speaker 3: that means Jack Miller's chances of retaining that second Promac
35:38
Speaker 3: seat go up massively because they've kept Olivera and Miller
35:43
Speaker 3: hanging on now for a long time. It was going
35:44
Speaker 3: to be before the break, and then Jack went off
35:46
Speaker 3: and did Suzuka for Amahara, and it's still lingering, and
35:49
Speaker 3: it's still lingering, and they're both frustrated by it. Olivera
35:52
Speaker 3: sounds more sort of resigned to the fact that he's
35:54
Speaker 3: probably out to be honest. But if Marera took that
35:58
Speaker 3: spot at Pramak, then that was kind of it, I
36:00
Speaker 3: don't think Jack had any other options at all, and
36:03
Speaker 3: so Jack might sort of fall slightly backwards into a
36:06
Speaker 3: seat there at Yamaha. But something I mentioned before about
36:09
Speaker 3: keeping Quadurero happy. If you're developing a V four project
36:13
Speaker 3: and you've got all these spinning plates in the air
36:15
Speaker 3: of your Yamaha, you can't tell me that Quataurero is
36:18
Speaker 3: going to be super thrilled with two rookies in the
36:20
Speaker 3: Pramac lineup if that was what it was going to
36:22
Speaker 3: come down. So if it was going to be Rascatlioglu
36:24
Speaker 3: and Marrera, neither of whom have ridden a motor GP bike,
36:27
Speaker 3: neither of who would have experience with the Inline four
36:29
Speaker 3: or the V four, or the tires or the tracks
36:32
Speaker 3: and so on and so forth, and then have to
36:34
Speaker 3: learn it all again for twenty twenty seven when everything changes.
36:37
Speaker 3: So I think Jack, the reason Jack was hired in
36:39
Speaker 3: the first place is because he's got experience with all
36:41
Speaker 3: the other manufacturers. He's been around a long time. We
36:44
Speaker 3: know he was really influential with Decaddy as a guy
36:47
Speaker 3: who would test new items, their ride height device and
36:50
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. For Quaduro to know there's
36:52
Speaker 3: an experienced head who's kind of seen and done everything
36:56
Speaker 3: at this point working in the junior team if you
36:58
Speaker 3: like the B team be for a short time, but
37:01
Speaker 3: I think it's probably good for Yamaha to have Jack's
37:03
Speaker 3: experience still there. Marrera is super impressive, like he's having
37:08
Speaker 3: a really really good motor two season, absolute class of
37:10
Speaker 3: the field in Austria, which was a good timing when
37:13
Speaker 3: you negotiating a contract with Andre I would have thought.
37:15
Speaker 3: But so we might have an exciting young Brazilian on
37:18
Speaker 3: the Greed next year and we might still have our
37:20
Speaker 3: veteran Australian, which for Australian fans sounds like a win win.
37:24
Speaker 4: So you're seeing this.
37:25
Speaker 1: Possibly Jack's not moving to the Factory team like the
37:28
Speaker 1: rumors were saying. He might say at Promak and Alex
37:31
Speaker 1: Rinz might stay at Monster Rateergy.
37:32
Speaker 3: It sounds like Palo Paversio was asked about this in
37:37
Speaker 3: the Friday team principal's press conference in Austria, primarily a sponsor.
37:42
Speaker 3: I think to the interview that Jack Appleyard did with
37:44
Speaker 3: us when he mentioned the fact that there was perhaps
37:46
Speaker 3: getting a little bit shaky with Alex's tenure there at
37:50
Speaker 3: the Monster Yamaha team. Pavesio said, no, no, no, Alex will
37:53
Speaker 3: be staying, which okay, I admire him backing his rider.
37:58
Speaker 3: There's no statistical sense for that comment. But he's under contract,
38:02
Speaker 3: and the Japanese factories aren't super aren't super keen on
38:06
Speaker 3: breaking contracts generally with factory riders, let's be honest. So
38:09
Speaker 3: it sounds very much like Alex Rings is going to
38:11
Speaker 3: get a stay of execution. We've had this discussion before.
38:14
Speaker 3: It's not Alex's fault necessarily, but he's not the writer
38:16
Speaker 3: that he once was. But it sounds like that avenue
38:18
Speaker 3: is closed off. But reading the tea leaves here, it
38:22
Speaker 3: feels that the Miller Pramaha drink there you go. Miller
38:28
Speaker 3: Pramaha access is going to continue, probably for at least
38:31
Speaker 3: one more year. What happens for twenty seven interesting right
38:34
Speaker 3: with Pramak because Rascal Leioglue and this is another thing
38:38
Speaker 3: that Jack Appleyard said on this podcast. He comes in
38:40
Speaker 3: with a huge reputation and we're super interested to see
38:43
Speaker 3: how he's going to go. There's no guarantee it's going
38:45
Speaker 3: to be good. He's going to be a twenty nine
38:46
Speaker 3: year old rookie learning how to ride Michelin tires and
38:49
Speaker 3: motor GP bikes and a whole bunch of circuits he's
38:51
Speaker 3: never been on. It might not be that amazing, at
38:54
Speaker 3: least initially. Or he might just be so talented that
38:56
Speaker 3: he can get on one of these things and make
38:58
Speaker 3: it sing from the start. Right now, what's Yamaha's succession plan?
39:02
Speaker 3: So Alex Reins is out of contract at the end
39:04
Speaker 3: of twenty six, it's hard to mount a case to
39:06
Speaker 3: him being retained after that. Then what do Yamaha do
39:09
Speaker 3: Because they've got the a lister in Quaaterero, the other
39:12
Speaker 3: seats are a little bit I'm not quite sure what
39:14
Speaker 3: they're doing with them at the moment. So I don't
39:17
Speaker 3: think Jack's going to be a motor GP for a
39:19
Speaker 3: long long time. He's already been in MOTORGP for quite
39:22
Speaker 3: a while, let's be honest. But I think he still
39:24
Speaker 3: has a lot to offer that project for what it
39:26
Speaker 3: needs right now. And then they'll come a point where
39:28
Speaker 3: they've moved on and Jack's ready to move on, and
39:30
Speaker 3: it'll be a mutually a mutually agreeable parting, you might say, So, yeah,
39:36
Speaker 3: watch this space. I expect the Marera thing probably lobs first,
39:39
Speaker 3: and then at some point Pramak will say, all right,
39:41
Speaker 3: well we've got to keep one of our two current writers,
39:44
Speaker 3: and the one they probably keep is Jack, So.
39:47
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the ossies because it was exciting
39:49
Speaker 1: this weekend. We had five ossies on the track.
39:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is pretty cool.
39:54
Speaker 1: To see the Legends parade, the one thousand, one thousandth
39:57
Speaker 1: sorry because.
39:58
Speaker 2: That's hard word to say, easy to write.
40:01
Speaker 1: Easy to write, exactly, Moroto GP race and they brought
40:03
Speaker 1: out the Legends Parade and Casey was there. It was
40:06
Speaker 1: quite nice to see him back on that repsol Hond delivery.
40:10
Speaker 4: He's just so iconic as.
40:11
Speaker 1: Then Casey in the twenty seven and just to see
40:14
Speaker 1: him back on his USC two and three B as.
40:17
Speaker 3: Well as goosebumps awesome. Yeah, he looks in good Nick Casey.
40:21
Speaker 3: I know he obviously had some health issues and stuff
40:23
Speaker 3: over the years, but you forget how gungny still is.
40:26
Speaker 3: He looks like he could probably get back on the
40:27
Speaker 3: grid tomorrow and have a crack at it. But how
40:29
Speaker 3: good was it to see that bike? And is that
40:31
Speaker 3: funny how your eyes do funny things? Like we were
40:34
Speaker 3: trying to stop saying Repsol Honda at the beginning of
40:36
Speaker 3: the year because it wasn't Repsol Honda for the first
40:38
Speaker 3: time ever. And you see that bike back on track
40:41
Speaker 3: again and everything just looks right with the world again.
40:43
Speaker 3: It's just an orange bike. Awesome livery amazing rider on it. Yeah,
40:47
Speaker 3: it looked like it was a nice throwback and very
40:50
Speaker 3: very nice to see.
40:51
Speaker 4: It's a shamer.
40:52
Speaker 1: We couldn't see more of the bikes and everything on track,
40:55
Speaker 1: you know, Simon Crazy, Lakoma Agustini was there, Lauras Caparrossi, so,
40:59
Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of it who do work in
41:01
Speaker 1: Daughter in the Panic and whatnot. But cool to see
41:03
Speaker 1: Casey there. And then we had that little interaction with
41:06
Speaker 1: Casey and Valentino on.
41:07
Speaker 4: The grid though.
41:08
Speaker 1: That was funny, quite interesting from our fierce rivals, shall
41:11
Speaker 1: we say, from your ambition outweighs your talent to a
41:14
Speaker 1: nice handshake and a smile on the grid.
41:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of buried the hatchet. I mean, you
41:18
Speaker 3: remember that video last year when Casey went to the
41:20
Speaker 3: ranch and he was doing some motocross with Valentino. And
41:24
Speaker 3: when these guys get older and they're not fighting with
41:26
Speaker 3: one another anymore, I think there's a general level of
41:28
Speaker 3: respect there. It's nice to see a couple of legends
41:32
Speaker 3: rubbing shoulders amicably because it certainly wasn't like that in
41:34
Speaker 3: the past. But I do like how you've set this
41:36
Speaker 3: up with let's talk about the other ossies, because frankly,
41:39
Speaker 3: I think Casey Stotter was the best performing Australian at
41:42
Speaker 3: Spielberg over the course of the weekend because everyone else
41:45
Speaker 3: had a bit of a shocker or was very slow
41:47
Speaker 3: or in the case of Center ages very painful ending
41:50
Speaker 3: to his weekend.
41:51
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know if you guys listening, if you've
41:53
Speaker 1: seen that crash of centners and you know I did
41:55
Speaker 1: post it after I saw him get up and walk
41:58
Speaker 1: away from it.
41:58
Speaker 4: But wow, that was a big crash.
42:01
Speaker 1: I've been trying to find out that inner details it.
42:03
Speaker 1: At one moment it looked like he possibly had someone
42:06
Speaker 1: run over his leg or I don't know the ins
42:09
Speaker 1: and outs, but taking from what the team of post
42:12
Speaker 1: on socials, what Center's posted on socials is that he's
42:15
Speaker 1: gone to have some more checks and it's going to
42:18
Speaker 1: be a recovery time. So Matt, have you heard any
42:21
Speaker 1: latest news on Senna?
42:23
Speaker 3: No, we know that He was taken to a trackside
42:26
Speaker 3: hospital and then which to Barcelona for some more medical checks,
42:29
Speaker 3: so you know, his participation for this weekend. We don't
42:31
Speaker 3: know whether that's happening or not yet. He could probably
42:34
Speaker 3: use a gap between Austria and Hungary that's longer than
42:37
Speaker 3: a few days. But it was a scary one in
42:39
Speaker 3: that that chicane which is kind of a band aid
42:43
Speaker 3: solution to a problem there at Austria. It's not the
42:45
Speaker 3: most elegant way of changing a racetrack. The first laps
42:48
Speaker 3: of all the races are a bit fraught there. You
42:50
Speaker 3: just have to be on the outside and have to
42:52
Speaker 3: check up to avoid somebody, and things like that can happen.
42:54
Speaker 3: He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time,
42:57
Speaker 3: so it's one of those ones like you looked at
42:59
Speaker 3: the accident thought that could have been worse, but still
43:02
Speaker 3: it certainly wasn't pleasant, and yeah, he wasn't looking too
43:05
Speaker 3: great when he got up, so better to be safe
43:08
Speaker 3: than sorry, were these things, particularly if there's a concussion involved,
43:10
Speaker 3: And yeah, I would I would be surprised if he
43:16
Speaker 3: was racing and hungry this weekend, but that would you know,
43:19
Speaker 3: we're know what motorcycle races are like if someone says
43:21
Speaker 3: you can race, theyre going to race. So well, guess we'll.
43:23
Speaker 2: See at a young twenty year old motorcycle racer.
43:25
Speaker 4: Is not going to take no for an answer.
43:27
Speaker 1: But we will keep you updated on any other news
43:30
Speaker 1: that we hear about. Ossie sent Aegeus and yeah, like
43:33
Speaker 1: you said, rough weekendles for Joel and Jacob in Moto three,
43:37
Speaker 1: but Moto three racing.
43:39
Speaker 3: Oh man, it is sure.
43:42
Speaker 1: Sure, let's quickly move on because if you guys have
43:46
Speaker 1: sucked around, thank you. We're going to move on to
43:49
Speaker 1: Hungry and a new circuit that we never been to before,
43:52
Speaker 1: Ballaton Parks. So we know a lot of writers have
43:55
Speaker 1: tested here on stup mikes or six hundreds in their
43:58
Speaker 1: spare time. I was talking to when I was actually
44:00
Speaker 1: in Europe Eloer this year and he mentioned the track
44:03
Speaker 1: surface was quite interesting there. That was back in the summer,
44:07
Speaker 1: but I know it's still hot. He was saying that
44:08
Speaker 1: it's crumbling a little bit. And then I don't know, Mattter,
44:11
Speaker 1: if you've seen that Jiucaddi video where they factory Jacaddi
44:15
Speaker 1: and the privateer teams went and tested there and Mark
44:18
Speaker 1: was saying just how.
44:21
Speaker 4: The rear tire was just sliding.
44:22
Speaker 1: And I don't know, if we're here they were making
44:24
Speaker 1: it up and trying to tell a story or whatnot.
44:26
Speaker 1: But from me my opinion, look, I'm not the racer
44:29
Speaker 1: track looks narrow and the corners look quite slow. But
44:34
Speaker 1: my question to you is is that going to make
44:36
Speaker 1: it more of an even playing field this weekend kind
44:38
Speaker 1: of like what we saw back in Bruno, because no
44:41
Speaker 1: one has the data from this place.
44:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always a good thing in that everyone's literally
44:45
Speaker 3: going there with a completely clean sheet of paper. We
44:48
Speaker 3: know that Ducatti sent all their riders there on some
44:50
Speaker 3: Panagales to bomb around during the mid season break. Classic
44:54
Speaker 3: Dacadi like, We're just going to fly all six of
44:55
Speaker 3: our riders and Mikaylee Piro in there and there's seven
44:58
Speaker 3: brand new Panagales and you guys just go and get
45:00
Speaker 3: your eye in because you can. Classic to Caddy, this
45:03
Speaker 3: is why they're leading everything. But I do like the
45:06
Speaker 3: fact that it is a real step into the unknown.
45:08
Speaker 3: I like a new circuit. I think it's the most
45:10
Speaker 3: level of level playing fields. I like a new circuit generally.
45:14
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm liking this circuit particularly much.
45:17
Speaker 3: It's an odd circuit. Lad anyone that's listening to this
45:20
Speaker 3: go and find a track map of this thing. The
45:22
Speaker 3: first corner first four corner sequence is just not necessarily
45:28
Speaker 3: conducive to great motor GP racing. It really concerns me
45:32
Speaker 3: with the funnel effect into that first corner. And if
45:35
Speaker 3: anyone saw what happened on the first lap of the
45:37
Speaker 3: first World Superbikes Race there a couple of months or
45:40
Speaker 3: end of July rather, there was a six bike pile
45:43
Speaker 3: up in the first quarter and it's pretty sketchy because
45:47
Speaker 3: it almost turns completely back on itself and then onto
45:50
Speaker 3: its right and then there's three consecutive left hand as
45:52
Speaker 3: that follow So trying to imagine twenty two motor GP
45:55
Speaker 3: bikes thundering and term one there's going to be super interesting.
45:59
Speaker 3: Not sure how that's going to play out. I think
46:01
Speaker 3: the sprint will give us a bit of a bit
46:03
Speaker 3: of a test as to what that's going to be like.
46:04
Speaker 3: It's an odd layout. Banyaya. After testing the Panagali they said,
46:08
Speaker 3: I don't think we'll use sixth gear here, and that
46:11
Speaker 3: shows you how slow it's going to be. A lot
46:13
Speaker 3: of Chicanes. It's a different track, right, And I don't
46:16
Speaker 3: mind the idea of you don't want twenty two cookie
46:20
Speaker 3: cutter race tracks here, you want you know, you don't
46:22
Speaker 3: want twenty two Austrias. One Austria is fine. One ballot
46:25
Speaker 3: on park is fine. The reason we rave about places
46:28
Speaker 3: like Bagello and Acid and Philip Island is because they
46:31
Speaker 3: are there completely outlies. They're ones of one, you know,
46:34
Speaker 3: varieties of spice of life and all that sort of stuff.
46:36
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure it's going to be the It's
46:40
Speaker 3: not going to be some high speed thriller rollercoaster of
46:42
Speaker 3: a race track. It's pretty flat and it's pretty tight,
46:44
Speaker 3: and it's going to be pretty slow. But it's a
46:46
Speaker 3: different style of race. And what you said before about
46:49
Speaker 3: no one being super prepared for this, I quite like
46:52
Speaker 3: the challenge of you get to a new place and
46:54
Speaker 3: it's like, well, you've only really got one practice session
46:56
Speaker 3: now to learn this thing on Friday, because you're straight
46:59
Speaker 3: into what is effected Q zero in the end of
47:02
Speaker 3: practice on Friday, You've got to try and get yourself
47:04
Speaker 3: into Q two if that's possible. So this becomes a
47:07
Speaker 3: weekend of who can learn the fastest, and who can
47:09
Speaker 3: live on their wits and who is prepared to push
47:11
Speaker 3: when things aren't completely perfect. You don't have the data,
47:15
Speaker 3: The track's a little bit sketchy. You're still finding out
47:17
Speaker 3: where the limits are corner after quarter. So if that
47:20
Speaker 3: doesn't sound like a recipe for Mark Marquez to make
47:22
Speaker 3: everyone look a bit silly and Friday practice, I don't
47:24
Speaker 3: know what it is. Because a new track and marquees
47:27
Speaker 3: and a chance to explore the limits, yeah, I don't
47:30
Speaker 3: think you'll get through the day without possibly scuffing his
47:32
Speaker 3: letters a little bit, but you'll find the limit pretty
47:34
Speaker 3: early and then try and stay within it.
47:37
Speaker 1: I put on the superbikes on KO back from when
47:41
Speaker 1: they last a ballot on Park, and I pointed out
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Speaker 1: the fact that they hadn't mowed the grass on the
47:45
Speaker 1: edge of the track, so the grass was coming up
47:48
Speaker 1: onto the curb and I thought that was hilarious. Other
47:50
Speaker 1: it was just such a superbike thing, but it made me, Yeah,
47:53
Speaker 1: I wonder what.
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Speaker 4: It's going to be like for Moto GP.
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Speaker 1: But looking at the track layer and I only watched
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Speaker 1: a few laps, it looks like real chicanes.
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Speaker 4: In this circuit.
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Speaker 3: Sure is, And that's what the difference. When it's a
48:03
Speaker 3: car circuit, they're just flat out kinks, and I think
48:06
Speaker 3: the you know, you need to put the chicanes in
48:08
Speaker 3: for bikes, just for runoff room and the fact that
48:10
Speaker 3: the track is it's in quite a narrow piece of
48:12
Speaker 3: land and that it quite loops back on itself, so
48:15
Speaker 3: you'll have one of those a bit like Urmass where
48:17
Speaker 3: you have the long back straight and then the section
48:19
Speaker 3: immediately after where you're almost riding at the guys coming
48:21
Speaker 3: on the other part of the track, which again I'm
48:23
Speaker 3: doing hand signals here on a podcast, completely useless, but
48:26
Speaker 3: in a small part of a piece of real estate,
48:28
Speaker 3: and I think you need the chicanes to maybe knock
48:31
Speaker 3: the top speed down a little bit, get it turned,
48:34
Speaker 3: then change and go again. So it's going to be
48:35
Speaker 3: super stop star It's not going to be a great
48:38
Speaker 3: flow to it. But it's the same for everybody, right,
48:40
Speaker 3: everyone's got the same challenge here. This strikes me as
48:43
Speaker 3: a weekend where you might see a few random outliers
48:46
Speaker 3: of like a guy who just adapts really quickly. You'll
48:48
Speaker 3: look into Q two and you go, what's that guy
48:50
Speaker 3: doing in Q two? He's barely been there all year,
48:53
Speaker 3: So from an interest point of view, I think it's
48:54
Speaker 3: going to be pretty high because for all the viewers,
48:57
Speaker 3: all the riders, no one's got any experience of this.
48:59
Speaker 3: Love be a new track because it's it just it
49:02
Speaker 3: resets things for a weekend where you know, the other
49:04
Speaker 3: weekends perhaps can be a little bit more predictable.
49:07
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be good just thinking out around here if
49:09
Speaker 1: we saw like an I Grew a comeback like what
49:11
Speaker 1: we saw entire lab.
49:12
Speaker 2: Where he just like it came out of nowhere rookie, You're.
49:15
Speaker 1: Like, whoa, he's in like the top five, and then
49:18
Speaker 1: the rest of the season in nowhere come into a
49:20
Speaker 1: track like this, you just see I Grew again and
49:22
Speaker 1: go straight into Q two like and this.
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Speaker 3: Will be one of those weekends where for whatever reason,
49:28
Speaker 3: someone will hit the ground running on Friday and go
49:30
Speaker 3: feeling good here And this is going to be a
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Speaker 3: track where, because no one's got any experience, confidence and
49:35
Speaker 3: early confidence is going to be key. And that's why
49:38
Speaker 3: I think you'll get to the end of Friday and
49:40
Speaker 3: you'll see three names that are in Q two that
49:42
Speaker 3: you'll be like, oh, that's a big surprise. So if
49:45
Speaker 3: you've had a bit of a crappy weekend in Austria, Yamaha,
49:49
Speaker 3: maybe there's a chance for someone like Couadarero, who we
49:52
Speaker 3: know can just extract lap times out of bikes that
49:54
Speaker 3: probably don't deserve it. Maybe you see him in Q two,
49:57
Speaker 3: he just pulls out a stunning lab a week after
49:59
Speaker 3: they were complitly useless in Austria.
50:02
Speaker 1: Well, ma'am, I'm not gonna ask you for your your
50:04
Speaker 1: predictions this weekend because, like you just said, we don't know.
50:07
Speaker 1: I've hurt from the fact of Mark Marquez possibly dominating,
50:11
Speaker 1: so we'll leave that to the actual on track action.
50:15
Speaker 1: But that pretty much rounds up our recap from Austria
50:18
Speaker 1: and our little look ahead at what we do know
50:20
Speaker 1: about Balaton Park.
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