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Interview with Zombie Sailor Toys! · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

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  Speaker 1: From the.
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  Speaker 2: Podcast Sunday March.
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  Speaker 3: Job.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome everyone to a very special major wrestling figure podcast.
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  Speaker 4: I am your host the Complete the Internet Champion Always
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  Speaker 4: Ready Matt Cardona, and.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host the most professional wrestler Brian Myers.
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  Speaker 3: We also here produces the show Smart Mark Sterling. We
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  Speaker 3: have a special guest here today. We have brought in
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  Speaker 3: and put them right on the hot seat, Hot siea
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  Speaker 3: zombie sailor toys.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, buddy?
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 1: Can we call you Josh for the sake of this interview?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just call me Gosh man. That's all the name is, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like no one knows that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just whatever, okay, And you're a zombie and my
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  Speaker 4: thhone Yeah yeah, Josh, Hello, Josh.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, guys, thank you for having me. It's my pleasure
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  Speaker 5: and honor as.
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  Speaker 1: Always, Josh. How many years has this been? Operation and
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  Speaker 1: up and running? Now ready for you?
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  Speaker 3: So?
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  Speaker 5: I first announced Heels and Faces back on my birthday,
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  Speaker 5: which was January fourth of twenty twenty one. Wow, and
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  Speaker 5: series one pre order was officially like it was middle
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  Speaker 5: of June also twenty twenty one, So about four years
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  Speaker 5: since it's been known publicly and about three and a
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  Speaker 5: half years or so since they've officially had the option
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  Speaker 5: to be for sale.
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  Speaker 1: So right, wow, cool, congrats, Thank you. Feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: gone very quickly. And I have a giant shelf dedicated
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  Speaker 1: to your products that I'm looking at right here in
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  Speaker 1: my room.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Probably won too many Macardonas, but that's not slicks. One
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  Speaker 1: too many Slicks, and one too many mat Cardonas. But
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  Speaker 1: there's only four mat Cardona's not a very happy fan.
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  Speaker 5: Was a good number, was a good number.
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  Speaker 4: But man, I remember you know, I found you originally
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  Speaker 4: back in the day because you were selling uh case
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  Speaker 4: fresh Hasbro Series one Hasbro's and I couldn't believe it,
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  Speaker 4: and that's how we started started our relationship. Eventually you
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  Speaker 4: started making the pins for the major restling for your podcast.
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  Speaker 4: But I remember you telling me, yeah, I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 4: this toy line. I'm thinking, this guy's fucking crazy, there's
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  Speaker 4: no way. And then you were telling me like the
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  Speaker 4: level you wanted to take this company and the quality
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  Speaker 4: you wanted to make these figures. And I'm thinking, okay, zombie, sure,
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  Speaker 4: good luck, bal but you did.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, right, especially at that time, it wasn't as
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  Speaker 1: many people doing that, so have those aspirations was a
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  Speaker 1: little loony, right, Well, he.
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  Speaker 4: Would have been the first independent company making wrestling figures
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  Speaker 4: for sure too.
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  Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, man, listen, it's just you know, I'm a
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  Speaker 5: big action figure fan, obviously, big wrestling figure, just wrestling
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  Speaker 5: fan in general from like the past at least, and
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  Speaker 5: I just saw like this huge gap in the market.
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  Speaker 5: It was an amazing opportunity that no one was capitalizing on. Like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, there were so many names like One Man
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  Speaker 5: Gang and Saboo that were just laying their dormant that
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  Speaker 5: I didn't foresee any company stepping up to make figures
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  Speaker 5: of So there's all of these it's already you have
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  Speaker 5: this built in audience and no one was capitalizing on
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  Speaker 5: them on and it made no sense to me. So
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  Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, if someone's gonna do it, might
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  Speaker 5: as well be me because no one's stepping up and
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  Speaker 5: the rest is history. Now there's like, fucking excuse my language,
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  Speaker 5: there's like eighteen companies doing this stuff, and it's just
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  Speaker 5: it's crazy, man. They say, what is it?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Imitations the most in serious form of flattery. So I
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  Speaker 5: am flattered I mean there is.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, I didn't even really think about that. So matt
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  Speaker 1: said it, like there really was no one doing anything
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  Speaker 1: outside like a major company, you know, until you kind
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  Speaker 1: of were the first to kind of break through the wall.
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  Speaker 4: But now there's almost maybe dare I say too many. Well,
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  Speaker 4: let's just also say this. Mattel had even stopped with
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  Speaker 4: their retros. They put their retros on ice. We even
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  Speaker 4: had a segment on our show every week we want retros.
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  Speaker 4: We started a hashtag, and I believe that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't have any proof of this, but Mattel saw
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  Speaker 4: what you were doing and then what other companies were doing,
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  Speaker 4: and said, well, if these guys are making money on
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  Speaker 4: these retros, we want back in, right, So I think
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  Speaker 4: you're to blame for Mittel getting back in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually agree with that. By the way, I
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  Speaker 3: think I think you did say that that phrase.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah correctly there, Yeah, I think it was correct.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was just looking at on our YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: I know we've done interviews in the past, but we've
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  Speaker 3: never done like a full like its own standalone episode.
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  Speaker 3: We did a bonus episode with you a couple of
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  Speaker 3: times on Patreon, on major Marx dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: I think a multiple time guest of Boozing with the Toys.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, and also of a guest on the podcast in
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  Speaker 3: its own set. This is like kind of like the
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  Speaker 3: first standalone thing. So you know we've said it before,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe I think it's worth just saying, like, how
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  Speaker 3: do you sort of got into the toy thing, you
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  Speaker 3: know with the finding of the has Bros And all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff. Maybe if you could be a little brief
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  Speaker 3: with that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, So long story short, Like I hated
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  Speaker 5: my old job. It was just so fucking miserable. Like
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  Speaker 5: I used to sell mattresses on the Northeast. You guys
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  Speaker 5: would probably remember Sleepies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, dude.
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  Speaker 5: It was so miserable. I was working eleven hours a
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  Speaker 5: day by myself, from ten am to nine pm at night.
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  Speaker 5: It was horrible. I was always on my phone. There
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  Speaker 5: was so much downtime. So I'm always on eBay looking
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  Speaker 5: for stuff. But even before that, I'm like a lifelong
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  Speaker 5: Action figure fan collector. I didn't just jump on the
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  Speaker 5: bandwagon in COVID like so many others. I've always been
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  Speaker 5: here since day one, And like I used to buy
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  Speaker 5: like doubles or even triples of figures, one to open,
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  Speaker 5: one to keep stored away for like a rainy day,
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  Speaker 5: or potentially a second one to store away.
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  Speaker 1: They sell them true true toy psycho. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: because that was anything, I like, truly love it's a three,
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  Speaker 1: which is sadly was psychotic if we're really.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, if the finance is permitted, of course, I never
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  Speaker 5: you know, I didn't grow up with like a silver
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  Speaker 5: spoon in my mouth anything like that, So yeah, like
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  Speaker 5: you know, again, I had a lot of downtime at
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  Speaker 5: this mattress selling job, so miserable, and I got Instagram.
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  Speaker 5: This was back in like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm seeing people were selling figures on Instagram and like
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  Speaker 5: people are going crazy for some of the stuff that
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  Speaker 5: they were posting. And I'm like, oh my god, you
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  Speaker 5: could sell stuff on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: They showed what they had for sale, they wrote the price,
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  Speaker 5: and people were writing like claim in the comments and
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  Speaker 5: they were getting dms they were selling it. I was like,
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  Speaker 5: holy crap. And I'm not going to name names. I'm
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  Speaker 5: throwing anyone under the bus, but there was pages that
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  Speaker 5: were very popular that had like thousands of followers and
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, holy crap, I have so much stuff in
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  Speaker 5: storage that's just sitting there going nowhere. That's better than
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  Speaker 5: what these guys are selling. What if I make a
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  Speaker 5: page and post all of my stuff and see what happens.
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  Speaker 5: And I did that and then just snow to the
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  Speaker 5: point where I was. You know, I'm fast forwarding now months,
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  Speaker 5: but I was calling out of work to stay home
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  Speaker 5: to box of borders from my previous night claim sales.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm like, I might have something here. Then I
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  Speaker 5: started doing conventions and I did a convention called Retrocon
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  Speaker 5: in Pennsylvania. Matt, you were there before doing your thing,
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  Speaker 5: and this guy came up to me because I was
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  Speaker 5: selling a couple of Hasbros from my own collection, like
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  Speaker 5: carded ones, and he's like, hey, man, you know do
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  Speaker 5: you buy in bulk? I have a lot of these,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, you hear that a lot. And he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I used to be my friend used to be a
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  Speaker 5: distributor or wholesale or whatever he said, and he's like,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we got hundreds of them carded and I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 5: okay whatever, And of course it wasn't him, it was
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  Speaker 5: his friend. So I didn't put much merit to it,
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  Speaker 5: and certainly, you know, I gave him my email and
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  Speaker 5: then the guy that had this it was actually a fact,
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  Speaker 5: it was real. It wasn't bs and he was showing
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  Speaker 5: me all the stuff that he had and I couldn't
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  Speaker 5: believe my eyes.
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  Speaker 1: And that was it.
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  Speaker 5: I just bought that he had a lot of other stuff,
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  Speaker 5: and he led me to his friends that were in
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  Speaker 5: the same industry, and I just started buying warehouses full
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  Speaker 5: of untapped eighties and ninety stock and it literally just
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  Speaker 5: changed my life. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.
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  Speaker 5: And what's crazy is that hasbro fine. It was in
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  Speaker 5: the summer of twenty fifteen, so we're going on ten
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  Speaker 5: years now, which is insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, it.
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  Speaker 5: Was cool man just to have like you know, like
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  Speaker 5: fifty or sixty series one macho Man's that I'm opening
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  Speaker 5: the case that are like pristine.
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  Speaker 1: It was crazy. And it's like, trust me, I've been
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  Speaker 1: looking for them, like I wasn't in the men on
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  Speaker 1: card game when you were doing this. Yeah, like you
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  Speaker 1: can't just they're not like plentiful to think that you
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  Speaker 1: had that many a one time. And he sold them
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  Speaker 1: all off like the people. A lot of these people
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  Speaker 1: that got those are like holding on to them tight.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to open a case fresh Hazbro, just
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  Speaker 3: just to hold them in my hand.
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  Speaker 1: And you bought those, right, I bought him.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't a min I'm still not a min On
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  Speaker 4: card collective, but I do now have the whole set
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  Speaker 4: min On card. But when I'm like, how can I
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  Speaker 4: turn this down?
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  Speaker 1: Case fresh? All right here? Right?
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  Speaker 4: And the prices weren't that astronomical, yeah, because he wasn't
• 8:55
  Speaker 4: trying to he didn't just have one matchum and he
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  Speaker 4: yet you know, he was pretty affordable all is considered.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and plus back then, like the the market wasn't
• 9:04
  Speaker 5: as hot as it was now, so like Bloth, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think like the average price for like a you know,
• 9:09
  Speaker 5: a cardage Jake the Snake back then was probably like
• 9:11
  Speaker 5: maybe fifteen twenty dollars, you know, So I remember, I
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  Speaker 5: think I was charging like thirty two dollars for mine
• 9:16
  Speaker 5: or thirty four bucks. Remember it was an odd price.
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  Speaker 1: And now I would have, but everyone I know you
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: wouldn't because you saw the posts that you did in
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  Speaker 1: mark so like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, yes, I should have butt everyone.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah it was fun, man, And then yeah, that's pretty
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  Speaker 5: much that's hit in a nutshell. And then like you
• 9:32
  Speaker 5: know what I had, U the w has bros freaking
• 9:35
  Speaker 5: a ton of beetlejuice figures, eighteen hundred beetle juice figures.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Like, no, it's gone on. Water World changed your life though.
• 9:43
  Speaker 5: That's that's what it That's what it really started sailing.
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will be honest, I never really understood your
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: your fascination with Kevin Costner. I was like, this guy's
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: fucking weird, Like you're weird for loving Kevin Costs so much.
• 9:55
  Speaker 4: But then I got at the Yellowstone and I get it. Man,
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: I love him too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we haven't talked about this at a
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: long time.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: A man, I don't like how he left the show.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: I don't like that.
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: Yes, are you caught up to that point?
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: Caught up? I'm caught up? Holy shit?
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: So watch watch all Kevin Costler's baseball movies. Bro, He's
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: the legend. He's the best.
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's in like eighty five baseball movies for whatever.
• 10:19
  Speaker 5: But you know what, it's just you know, Costner, like
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: I've said before, you just like personifize like the nineties,
• 10:24
  Speaker 5: which is obviously my favorite decade. I'm sure we'll agree,
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: like for the most part, and just like you know,
• 10:29
  Speaker 5: he was like the man in the nineties, so I
• 10:30
  Speaker 5: feel like he's this living vessel from a time from
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: the past. That's how I look at it.
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  Speaker 3: That's very, very true.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: So let's let's say it a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you start working for the Major pod, you start
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: making our pins.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: And this is like before we forgot about that, Like
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  Speaker 1: this is before we had figures.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't really have any merch so we started in
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: twenty eighteen and shortly thereafter, I remember you pitched me
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: or I pitched you. I don't know how we figured
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: this out to do an enamel pin and we did
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: like this midnight drop and I was petrified and it
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  Speaker 4: like sold out instantly, Like oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Already kind of doing very well with pins, right, and
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  Speaker 1: like they were like reimagined hasro people, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The pins were cool. So, like you know, I spent unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: or I spent a lot of my life and time
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  Speaker 5: on Instagram and I saw at that time, this was
• 11:20
  Speaker 5: like twenty twenty eighteen, I want to say, there was
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: like a big enamel pin boom, like a lot of
• 11:26
  Speaker 5: people were getting everything. So I'm like, you guys got
• 11:28
  Speaker 5: to do some pins, and yeah, it was I mean
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: the hazard. I don't know if I did like the
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: Hasbro inspired ones back then, if I did those first
• 11:35
  Speaker 5: or after. I probably did those first and it did
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  Speaker 5: really well, like you know, selling like one hundred hundred
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  Speaker 5: and fifty pins at twelve dollars each, making like six
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  Speaker 5: grand a night selling just little pins. It was I'm like,
• 11:44
  Speaker 5: what the hell's going on? So I'm like, hey, guys,
• 11:46
  Speaker 5: you gotta do some pins. And I'll never forget that.
• 11:49
  Speaker 5: We did a midnight launch. I think there was one
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  Speaker 5: hundred of them, and like my website crashed because I
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: know shop I could do now, and I was like panicking, like,
• 11:56
  Speaker 5: holy crap, what do I do. I couldn't get it up.
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: I'm calling the website hosting and everything. And eventually I
• 12:02
  Speaker 5: did like a clean sale. I'm like, all right, everyone
• 12:04
  Speaker 5: dmy first come, first serve and that's how we did it.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, that was the start of a crazy journey.
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  Speaker 5: As far as the enamel pins.
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  Speaker 1: Go, Yeah, we were.
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  Speaker 4: The pins were such a big thing for our community
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: for a while because, like I said, we didn't have
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: figures yet, so those are pretty much our figures where
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: people were collecting our pins. I still would I think
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: we should bring back a zombie saalor Midnight Drop for
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: the seven year anniversary.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody's really talking about pins.
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: It just became so easy to make it so overpopulated that,
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: like you, I will say, my pins at my merch table,
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: they fly. I'm always oudering new style pins. It's just
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  Speaker 4: it's not as hot, Like you can't do like a
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  Speaker 4: midnight Drop. I don't think anymore. No and at a time, No, Yeah,
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: what makes you think, Okay, I'm doing pins, I'm selling
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: vintage toys. I want to get into the game. What
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: what what's that decision look like? And how do you
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: even start that process?
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, being a.
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  Speaker 5: Fan, and I'm always looking at figures and I'm trying
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: my best not to critique too much. But like, let's
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: say I would go to you know, a target, or
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: buy something in my local comic book shop and I'm like, oh,
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: this figure's cool, but it would have been cooler if
• 13:10
  Speaker 5: this was changed or this was different. So I always
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: had like that creative aspect in me, and I kind
• 13:17
  Speaker 5: of like always just wanted to just not sell other
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  Speaker 5: people stuff. I wanted to sell like my own stuff
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  Speaker 5: and you know, selling figures for like about you know,
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: sevent eight years. At that point, I had a lot
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  Speaker 5: of friends, thankfully in the industry that like you know,
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  Speaker 5: work in toy companies or whatever, and I had that
• 13:33
  Speaker 5: benefit working for me. So once I really had like
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: the funds together to like actually do this, I started
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: picking my friend's brains. I'm like, okay, can you make
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: a figure for this amount? What's the minimum? What's the
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: price to get something sculpted like this on average, just
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: asking as many questions as I possibly could. And when
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: I had all of those answers, and when I had
• 13:53
  Speaker 5: the funding set up and all of the pieces in place,
• 13:56
  Speaker 5: the talent, whether it was the actual wrestlers or the
• 13:59
  Speaker 5: sculptor's there's once ahead all of that set up and
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: the factory secured, and I know it was a reputable place,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, let's do this, and I pulled the trigger,
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  Speaker 5: simple as that.
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  Speaker 1: And now you're at the point where you're selling thousands
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: and thousands of figures of a year. But is it
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: still just you and like people part time or like,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: have you finally like expanded like where it's too much.
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, for you know, I'm first and foremost,
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: I'm like at the front line, so like I don't
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: necessarily need like full time employees because I don't always
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: have something in stock that's always selling. So like I
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: almost have like seasonal workers. So like whenever like a
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: new like pre order comes in that we have to fulfill,
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: like I'll call my designated guys like, hey, you know,
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: we have a big shipment coming in. I need you
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: guys for like two weeks or whatever.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: And that's that.
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: But as far as like full time employees go, everyone
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: is for the most part freelance, like the sculptors, the
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: painters and everyone from there. So it's not like I
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: have like a like you know, a spot somewhere in Manhattan.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Day to day is all you like, every email, every Yeah.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: I don't do that my emil anymore. Thank god. I
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: can't handle that ship that's going to give me a stroke,
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: the ship that I get asked or their request or.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, who does that?
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: Just a friend of mine, you know what I mean,
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: So he makes it. You know, listen, a thousand bucks
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: a month just answer emails. I'll take it, you know, yeah,
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: maybe that's his wife.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what what is like the day to day?
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: Like, what are some of the I know, it's it's
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: obviously different every single day, and it's like a fluid
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: situation depending on what stage you're you're working in. Uh,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: you know, how many hours are you putting in a day?
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: And like you know, you know what, what's it sort
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: of you wake up, you start right away or what's
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: going on?
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I'm not even exaggerate. I'm not trying to
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: make myself sound like fucking Superman or anything. But every
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: waking minute of every day, I'm not even kidding, Like
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: I'm working, Like, yeah, I'm not in front of like
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: my laptop or on my phone because there's always naturally
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: going to be like downtime. But I mean we'll keep
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: in mind on my mean graphic designer. He lives in Australia.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: I'm in New York, so there's like a sixteen hour
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: I believed different. So right there when he's up, I
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: should be sleeping and vice versa. So I can't sleep
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: because I have to be in constant communication with them
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: my factory they're in China. Same thing. There's like a
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: twelve hour delay, I believe. So if I want something
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: to happen as fast as possible, as instantly as possible,
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: I have to be up texting them in real time.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: So I can't go to sleep and send them emails
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: because by the time you have that back and forth
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: correspondence days might pass. So long story short, I'm probably
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: not going to sleep until maybe two three o'clock in
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: the morning, and then I'm waking up at like seven
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: am taking my kids to school. You got five kids, right, yeah,
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: like going on second three. But yeah, it's crazy, man.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm always working. I'm just from the moment
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I wake up. I'm just getting caught up with emails
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: as far as like the creative aspects go. Always always
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: talking to sculptors. I have five different people, legit right now,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: all working on five different characters at this exact moment,
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: and then there's like, oh my god, there's got to
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: be at least forty, maybe even fifty different guys in
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: development right now, like figures. So obviously I get emails
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: for every single one of those, so I have to
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: get caught up on that, and just it just doesn't stop. Man, Listen,
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: I'm not complaining. I'm freaking happy, you know it's.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: You talked to Ron Rudat.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: I talked to him. I mean usually through like email only,
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: but like not often. Whenever I need a new guy done,
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: I'll just be like, hey, Ron, you know, we got
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: some money for you, and give him reference and he
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: does this thing.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you just send a bunch of reference picks
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to the person and he sketches it up.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Reference picks, you know what I mean. So I'm like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: you know, hey, maybe you can give him a pose
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: like this or a pose like that thoughts, and then
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: he just does his own thing. Of course, ask hi
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: if there's any corrections that I could suggest, And that's
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: pretty much it is.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: He going to Ron.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: So Ron, for those who don't know, drew the original
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: wwfas Bros. And then you had the idea to get
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: him to draw yours. And then, like you said, you
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: have all these sculptors, there's one step. Now. I don't
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: know if you hide it from the public or if
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: you're different from every other company, including ourselves. I never
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: see three D renders of a sculpt Are those not
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: done or is this all hand sculpted based off the
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Ron root At design do you even get to a
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: three D like computerized sculpt first?
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well everything gets three DS. So here's the thing.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: My original sculptor, Alex Henke, who's amazing there for me
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: from the start, he does everything in wax, like the
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: old traditional way, and I was that was the main
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: thing I was looking for when I first started, because
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: I wanted to have this feel as like authentic as possible,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: and that's like the oldest form of making an action
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: figure snake by hand.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: So he did that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: The only drawback with that is it does take longer.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not not gonna say say, you're you're kind of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: shot for time with that compared to every Yeah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Exactly, So, yeah, that takes a thing. But even when
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: they do get hand sculpted, what we do is then
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: we scan them in. So then that's like you make
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: your digital file and then you send that over to China. Now,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: the other four guys that I've working on these figures,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: they're all digital, so like their stuff is on a
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: lot faster. So like let's say the nose is off
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, hey, can we tweak this? You could
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: do that damn near instantly, whereas someone that sculpt it
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: by hand. Hey the noses off, like, oh, chef to
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: scrape the piece of clay off and get that shit,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: you know. But yeah, everything at the end of the
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: day is digital.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And I guess you just you just don't share that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: with the public.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: No, it doesn't, don't have to you know, just like, yeah,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: just listen, there are.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: People out there we're not gonna names who like fucking
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: they sneeze and they share it with the public, you
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So I do appreciate that you
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: don't share everything. I was just curious because I don't
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: think I've ever seen even of like my own figure,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: you know, unofficially. I don't think you've ever set me
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: like a three D that's true guilt.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: You know, I've never seen it for any here. Maybe
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the six inch stuff you've shown render stuff, yeah, the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: six stuff.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But like you know, for example, like the four
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: and a half inch figures, like they'll send me like
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: digital files and they're like, you know, hey, how told
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: do you want this guy? And like I'm like, you know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: four this is a taller guy, so make him like
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: four point six five inches and then they'll send me
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: a digital file of him. Next to like a digital
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: you know whoever, guys that are taller, guys that are
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: shorter to see like where their eye level would sync
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: up and everything. So yeah, there's a lot of stuff
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: going on back there, and if it looks too big
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: or too small, you can have them adjusted whatever.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So should we come with the hard hitting questions now? Yeah?
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I kind of got one right now, all right, So
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: the other day we actually talked about this on the
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: podcast where somebody accused us of being.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Too light on you not not or always you think
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: we're invested in your company? Yeah, I wish you could
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: post our legitimate orders that all three of us place
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in your website with no discount code nothing.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but but here here's the thing right now, you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: multiple years, three or four years into this thing, you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: you still take some heat about how long things take.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: You know, you announce this some of these figures years
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: ago and not how yet or whatever. People love to
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: talk about that. Where are you now, Like, are you
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: happy with the speed in which you're making these things?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Are you happy with the way that you are delivering
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: this information? Do you feel like you found kind of
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: a groove because there is less there's less kind of
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: people out there about your toys. But I don't know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: do you feel like there's room to improve or you
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: feel like you're in a groove now.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: No, I mean there's no room to improve because everything
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: I'm doing is as fast and as efficiently as possible.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: If I were to speed things up, something would have
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: to get sacrificed, which would be the quality of the figures.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: And I refuse to do that under any circumstance. And
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: at this point, again, Luke, you mentioned earlier, we're going
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: on four about four years now of this company being
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: in business and having these figures out, and people have
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: had these figures in hand now for about three years.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: And I was just discussing yesterday with a couple of
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: buddies of mine. We have thirty one figures out in
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: hand right now with like at least I think it's
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: like nine guys that are coming on five different containers
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: within the next two weeks. So people complain, but at
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: this point, you know what to expect, you know what
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: you're getting. You know, it's like, you know, unfortunately we're
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: not in Target, we're not in Walmart, and you know
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: we're not going to cut corners, so you know this
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: is how long it takes, even if I were NECA,
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: even if I was MESCO, from the absolute start to
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: the absolute finish, from the time I have a sculptor
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: start to the time that product gets to me in
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: hand from a vote from China. If you rush it
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: and crunch numbers and nothing goes wrong, it takes one year.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: If someone's getting stuff out before a year, they're doing
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: something to take a shortcut. I'm not going to name names,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: so one year is usually the absolute minimum. We tried
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: to get the cmpunk figure here a little sooner, but
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: we did start also back in November, and you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: it just it takes time. And again, like I said,
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: I put my name on this, I have everything of
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: my life invested in this company, and I will not
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: take shortcuts for a couple of vocal people in the
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: community wanting to get their dollars quicker. Simple as that
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: if they don't like it, I don't need your business.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: I welcome it, but I don't need it, and you
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: can go elsewhere, because, like I had mentioned, there's eighteen
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: other people doing this right now.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I will say, you know you are your own worst critic.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I think I think you you overanalyze your stuff, which
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: is good and bad. Right, Like, I'm not gonna name
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: what figure was, but you called it like midnight a
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. Oh okay, you said, And like
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: you're like, which one do you like better? I'm like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: they're the same thing.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: That's saying a lot to mac Cardonae.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Has a shine. This one doesn't like in your own head.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: But I love that about you because the attention to
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: detailing these figures. Now people listen, it's up for debate
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: whether you like a style or not. You know, some
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: people say these are too detailed for Hasbro's me personally,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I like it. I think it's like a continuation of
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: the Hasbros or a modern version. Do they fit paint
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: app watch to the Hasbro No, because these are way better.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: But that if you were to strip down a Hasbro
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: and strip down a Zombie Selle, I think the sculpting
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: is damn near identical, because people like they have this
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: weird memory that Hasbro were like Cartoony. Maybe the paint
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: app was dumbed down, but the sculpting was incredible.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of that has to do with
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: the repaint thing and reusing of molds that Hasbro did rights,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it could be that as they were for the original
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: guy that was used for that body.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But Josh, to me, having Ron Rudat, you're always no
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: matter whoever makes retro style figures, you're because you have Ron.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: To me, that's always your like link to the password,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Like you'll be superior to me no matter what.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and here's some as far as also time goes,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: like sometime, you know, he runs an older guy. Now
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: he's like, you know, in his like late sixties, I
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: believe at this point, and you know, I'm not going
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: to have a figure go into like the sculpting phase
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: until we actually have his blueprint, you know what I mean.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: So like sometimes I might send him Okay, we need
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: three guys, let's just say, and he might get the
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: first guy back to me in like a month, you
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, depending on how he's you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: his schedule, is how he's feeling, whatever the case may be.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: And that's gonna obviously cause a delay in the production,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So there's all these little things,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I mean I wanted to be as
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: close to the original as possible in terms of like
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: the spirit of it. So how do you connect it?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: You need something to bridge the past with the president,
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: and I felt like he was a perfect guy. Plus
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I had a good relationship with mister Rudat for a
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: number of years.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Back in twenty nineteen, I went to his house and
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: I picked his attic and the stuff that I found
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: in there was just amazing. And I told him about
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: the idea that I had and he was like, yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: it sounds in neat, it sounds cool. He's like, just
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: let me know when you're ready. And about a year later,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: I was ready, and now he's making the figures and
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: it's really cool to see, you know, new figures of
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: him after three decades.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: So you kind of hit on it when you were
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: given this answer a little bit with with your response.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: But some people can call your customer service style brash
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: or perhaps a little crash.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: This is this a strategy of your or or he's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: not answering the emails anymore. That's a step in the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: right direction. Yes, that is a step.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I haven't answered emails. Well, well, I personally haven't responded
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: to emails in like, I'm not saying the company people
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: are gonna twist my words. I person haven't done with
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: email stuff in three years, you know what I mean?
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: But like I don't.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Somebody might see a little comment in the Facebook group
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: or on Instagram page, you know, and and and they
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: love to screenshot and be like, look at this guy.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I can't believe.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: You know what's crazy? Everyone does that? Everyone, right, I'm saying,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: like people from other toy companies or whatever, and that's fine,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: But for whatever me, I'm pigeonholed to this degree. It's
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: so stupid. You know, someone calls me a you know,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: an a hole or whatever, says your product suck. So
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I'm black, you know, Hey, buddy, you suck. Oh my god,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: you're you're you're the you know, you're the worst. You're
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: the anti Christ Christ, you know.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I guess I think that the strategy here, the thing
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: that you say where like the idea of well then
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: don't buy it, right h People hate that for some reason.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same thing and not a sufficient answer
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: for people.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, well then don't watch it.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: It's like aw, people who whatever the hell it's like
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: when you say, well, then don't watch they're like a.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Problem.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: How dare you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: It's it's crazy. I feel like at the end of
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: the day, a lot of these people just need a
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: nice big hug and to be told everything is going
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: to be okay, and they want like you certainly do
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: not do that though, Yeah, they just want like a
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: combative back and forth. And you know the solution is,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: you know, if there's something that's not to your liking,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: that you're not getting the answer that you want, then
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: just simply stop giving that person or that place business.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: You know, if you keep going to a restaurant and
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: the hamburger is not good, why do you keep going back?
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Simple as that. There's nothing
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: brass about that.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: It's just or you just don't prefer that burger or
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the time it takes to make that burger.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: Just simple. You know what, life would be so much
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: better if you just moved on with whatever didn't suit you.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yea, your you know your business, like I love to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: collect it? Do I love the wait times? No? But
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like you said, you've produced thirty something figures and I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: know it's gonna be like you have a track record
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: that like when it comes, it's gonna be. There's no mystery,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Like I know it's gonna be a quality item. So
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know like how that trade off doesn't work
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: for most people, Like I'd rather wait and get something
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that's awesome then get something immediately that's garbage.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, of course I will say the world.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But to Bryan's point, there's never been like, yes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: sometimes there is a way, and it's longer than we want,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: but when it comes, it's never like it's never a
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: bait and switch situation. It's always incredible. It's always well
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: worth the wait, you know. And we've talked probably sometimes
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: when I'm like, yeah, I think you need to work
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: on your bedside matter a little bit. But I also
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: respect the fact like you're not Target or Walmart or
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: this publicly traded company. You're one guy who started his
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: own toy company. And like, if someone's gonna be and listen,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I have guilty of this myself. A lot of someone's
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: gonna be a dick to you, I feel it's they'll
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: probably be a dick back. This isn't like, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: this isn't Mattel. You know, you're not corporate, You're not
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: corporate zombie. You're one guy who's doing this by himself. Yeah,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: you have some people helping you out, but at the
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: end of the day, it's your company, your name, you're you.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Are trying to acquire customers, so.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Right, yeah, sure, yeah, it's just just a crazy world, man.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: And also another thing as far as pre orders go,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: and like way times, my god, like you know, like
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I mentioned this before, like Hot Toys, Like I love
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: how Toys. Granted, you know, they're you know, twelve inch
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: figures and they're so detail it's unbelievable. But if you
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: see like a new release, they might have like an
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: eighteen month minimum weight, and that's like, you know, for
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: a license like Marvel, like you know, a multi you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: billion dollar property like Marvel. It takes a year and
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: a half for Hot Toys to produce, and they ask
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: for pre order, so people like, oh, pre pre orders
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: are part of the game. There have been so many
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: companies out there. Someone I want to tell this is
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: very important for people to see and hear. Whatever. Pre
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: orders are very important. Sure there might be other people
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: out there that use the pre order money to fund
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: the entire operation. I can tell you right now, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I'm this is not me gloating or bragging. I have
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: enough finances to cover god knows how many years with
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: so many figures. So this has nothing to do with
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: funding and operation. This has to do with how many
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: to get pre sold, so we know how many to
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: put into production.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: There have been especially we have Like that's really all
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: we're trying to gauge, you know, the interest you have
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to man.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Like Super seven. You know, there's been figures in the past,
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: like you know, like Star Trek figures. Oh I'm not
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: a Star Trek fan. I'm just using something that happened,
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Like they had like this whole wave of figures and
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: the entire wave got canceled because of low pre order turnout.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Now what if they put Oh my god, this guy
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: looks like a cool figure. This is one of the
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: top characters. We're gonna make five thousand of these and
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: eight hundred sell. Guess what, that one failed wave might
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: put them into bankruptcy. So you have to gauge your customers.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: You have to know.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: And I'll always see this the Dan Housen figure. I
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: was going to order a thousand Dan Housing figures. The
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: very very absolute in my factory allows one thousand figures.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: We did an open pre order. He sold just under
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: five thousand. You's much money we would have left on
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: the team for thousand and how's it would have made less?
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: I would have made less four thousand fans wouldn't have
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: had a figure. So you have to know how many
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: to order. And the only way you could do that
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: is by having a pre order to see what the
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: interest is.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: And you talk about Dan hasn't making money. I will
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: say this, the most I've ever gotten paid for an
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: individual figure is not from Jack's, not from Mattel. It's
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: through Zombie salor Toy. So you take care of your talent,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: you know, then that's something that is uh and you're
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: not mate. You just said Dan has in five thousand. Okay,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: how many jazz warus Dan has to make.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: We'll never know.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: But it's you can't even compare the numbers. But yet
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: the royalty check from you is double, if not triple.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like to take care of the talent. Man Like, yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: I'm not selling as many, I'm not making as much money.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, it's you know,
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: it's the talent, it's their name, it's their image, it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: their career, it's their you know. It sounds cliche, but
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: like their body and their sacrifice to be able to
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: get to this degree in life for them to merit
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: an action figure. So why would I not take care
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: of the talent, you know what I mean? And a
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: lot of the older guys too, they're like, you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: maybe they're on social Security, they don't have much money
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: and they're not millionaires, so shit, why not have someone
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: take care of them if you have the means to.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: I'm making money on them. Why can't they get a
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: good portion of that from me?
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: So, so you mentioned some guys are on the water
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: right now? Can you can you name drop? Are there
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: any surprises? Are they all pre order figures?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: What are we coming? Well?
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: A couple surprise, I really, you know, I don't want
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: to I'd rather not say, but like you know, all
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: of the series five I'm serious five, Series four with Flair,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Michael Austin, Bad News, Allen t Jury and who's the
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: fifth guy I can remember? Abdullah? So those are all
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: like legit on the water. I actually just emailed them
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: two days ago to say, hey, you know, I get
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: a boat update whatever, And as of right now, I'm
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: not going to say the date because then people are like,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: oh my god, whatever, it's not here, you bastard. No,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: it's going to be here between like as of right now,
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: between mid to late February. So that's why three weeks
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: from now. And those were on sale late September to
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: mid or early October. And I said, you know, estimated date.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: I think it was like January February. So we're right
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: on target, seeing punk. He's coming. Also, there's two brand
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: new Bruce Lee figures coming also that are on the
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: back of the box that look awesome in hand. That's
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: really cool. He was a good seller. Who else Public Enemy,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: which are going to be insane, and a couple of
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: different variants here there. But it's literally five cargo five
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: twenty foot cargo containers that are coming. So it's going
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: to be a busy time for us.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: All right, you have something next to you right?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, if you got him, if
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you got it, flaunt it. Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: So check this out the good old Public Enemy.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Nice, wow, crazy, never had actual figure ever?
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: What is he's on the cool?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: You ready for this? Yep?
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: What do we got back here?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: What's do Hakushi transitions? Oh to Blair in the Blue
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the Wedgie pal Oh.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the next series Man, that's gonna be uh
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: up for sale once the series four get fulfilled. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: will absolutely put that up for pre sale with hopefully
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: an in hand ship date of maybe like July August.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Give us an update on the six inch line. Where
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: in the hell is that? And in your heart at Hearts?
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Do you think you'll beat Mattel to market with a
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: loose cannon Brian Pillman.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: I don't. Honestly, probably not, And again I'm not trying
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: to like beat them to market, you know what I mean.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I just you don't think that's important if you're doing
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a similar style.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: No, because they're two totally different figures, like the loose
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: cannon figure. You know, they's just like Twofer.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, do you think I mean, they haven't even
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: announced the loose cannon, but you think you could beat them?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's a yeah, So I guess yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to do like the version
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: that I'm doing, but I mean if they do, I mean,
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: so be it. But you also have to keep in
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: mind they have tooling that have existed for years upon years.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: It's not hard to have a new guy digitally sculpt
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: ahead and just pop it on a pre existing body,
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: and that's different when you have existing tooling that yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: well not really because with the head there's really not
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: much that can go wrong if you're like testing out
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: joints and movement. It's just a head that you pop
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: on a body. And like you know, there's guys that
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I've made that have been using like you know, pre
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: existing bodies. You can get that done in like four
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: or five months, like really fast. So let's just say
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: even for Mattel, it takes them six months, So six months,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: whereas I'm all new tooling, all new growing pains from
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: the ground up, making sure everything is you know, articulated
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: well not breaking, all these different types of tests and
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: all this stuff. So yeah, it's taken like you know
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: about you know, two years in development. But this is
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: something I'm actively going on. As far as when they're
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: going to be up, it's going to be a pre order,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: and it's going to be definitely before because I have
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: like a whole timetable that we have internally. It's definitely
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: gonna be before March thirty first.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: And then what is there packaging designed?
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the packaging is done. Man, it looks awesome.
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: I'll show you guys later.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: But it looks really coolocks style, like a like a nice.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Big like clamshell like think of like Neca figures like
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: something like that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I just envisioning.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just what I really like. And if you're
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: a Mint in car Minton card or Mint in box collector,
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: it'll look awesome. You could have it standing up on
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: its own. You can't, you know, topple over or whatever.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: It looks awesome on display. And more importantly, the people
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: that are you know, anal about the packaging being creased,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: and you got to see the emails that you know,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: we ever received. You can't crease this sort of plastic.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: So there's one bullet that's getting dodged right there.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm trying to take wrestling figures in a
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: completely different direction. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work,
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: and then we could always change the packaging for the
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: next series. But as of right now, this is what
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: I had always envisioned. I remember being like a teenager,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: you know, being in all of like Neca horror figures,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: seeing them in toys r Us or f YA, and
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: I'm like, god, you know, I wish they made wrestling
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: figures and this is the closest thing we're getting to
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Necca making wrestling figures. I can humbly say that. So
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: I hope a lot of people share that same love
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: and same value that I do, and when it comes
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: time to place those orders, they do it.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: So that's a series two like in development, dude.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Series way beyond series two. And then like I had mentioned,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: so you just pop different heads on the pre existing bodies.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: So now we have my God on either six or
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: seven different six inch figure bodies in development right now
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: or have been developed. I guess I could say, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: a million different heads that we're going to like you know,
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: mix and match or whatever. So I mean, again, don't
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: quote me, but as of right now, I'm looking to
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: have at least a first and second series out before
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: the end of the year.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm hook you up with Dreamer. You can sign
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: him and then he could reuse the Abdullah body.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Oh I was wondering where you were going with this.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I will say I've always been interested. I find it
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: interesting your thought process on like the competition, where like
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: where when we found out that Mitch announces that he's
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: doing an Ahmed and then you announce your Ahmed like
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: three days later just whatever the hell, and your attitude
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: was like, well whatever, you know, it's like you got
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: two people, multiple people in the same space, doing the
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: same guy of the same whatever the hell, and your
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: attitude had always been like ehn.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Or whatever about you don't worry about You got enough
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: shit to focus on about your company. For you to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: be worrying about someone else's company a waste of time.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And the best part is and this is like
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: you know, this goes on like you know, on Tony
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Norris Ahmed, Like so I had to deal with him
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: in place from like my god, like twenty twenty two whatever,
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: long story show. I had signed them before Mitch, but
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: like I don't want to say, he was being like,
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: you know, a car, I'm gonna throwing amid on the bus.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: He's really cool at times I've you know, interacted with him.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: I just think like maybe genuinely, like he just didn't
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: realize like that he had a contract that's according to him,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: regardless of whatever the situation is. I could have easily
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: been like, dude, I can get legal involved. I can
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: call up good old Mike Dawkins and send some shit.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I said, fuck it. Let this guy make some more money.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Let let him make an extra three hundred bucks with
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Mitch and and let me put myself out and let
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: the cream rise to the top. And then at the
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: end of the day you could see which is superior.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: And that's that, you know. I'm out here to knock
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: the competition. I'm just saying, at the end of the day,
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: if you have a good product, you have a good brand,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: people gravitate towards what looks better.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've said a couple of times the show,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: like who would not want to act for your mail themselves?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: If you just asked them, Hey, do you want to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: ask for yourself? And I'll pay you? What human on
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: earth goes on? No, I don't want to act for myself,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you know, like much less carnial old wrestlers. I mean, shit, dude,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: it's like kind of a recipe for disaster, you know.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's another thing, man, Like so many people when
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: you reach out to like these guys and whatever, they're like,
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: you know, like what you know, you want to make
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: a figure of me. It's cool, it's humbling. You could
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: hear it in their voice and stuff. But a lot
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: of people just get like a little too excited, and
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: then they're like they'll release shit on social media that
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: they probably shouldn't have them, like a god damn, you
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. But it is what it is, man,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: it's I understand it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: So I gotta ask, what's going on with this macho
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: man collection?
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's just another thing. So it's just the articulate.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: The articulation, the sculpting on them is just unreal. They
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: look amazing in hand and the other two. So we're
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: working on three of them right now. The two have
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: been done for months, but I'm not going to release
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: them until all they're all available at the same exact time.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: So the gear that has the tassels, that has been
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: over a year, just to make sure we get those right. Like,
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: you know, first we were using glue. Then the glue
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: was coming off and they were trying to put like
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: a little groove in the hand. They had to resculpt
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: the arms to fit it. I can't even explain like
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: a groove like picture like like blinds for like a
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: window whatever, yea. So yeah, back and forth, trial and
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: error to make sure those look good. You know, they're
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: not sculpted in like little wings you know what I mean.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: They are like beautiful pieces of cloth, And then we
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: did cloth tests. This was too stiff, this was too
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: loose until we got the right exit. I know it
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: sounds crazy, and at the end of the day, maybe
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: the same amount of figures would sell. But again, I
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: have OCD and I want to make sure the best
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: figure to my liking, which again I feel hopefully a
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: lot of people share that same sentiment. No, it's the
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: best it could possibly be. You know what I mean. Again,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: it's not about money, It's about putting the best quality
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: figure out there. And with a name like Randy Savage,
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: I want to do his legacy proud. This is not
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: just a quick, cheap cash to use a name to
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: sell figures. Yes, that's a big plus out of it,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: but it's beyond that. And these figures are so beautiful
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: and so like meticulous that when you see them, you're
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: gonna be like god damn. Like, you know, my wife,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: she knows shit about toys. She doesn't know the difference
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: between fucking Macho Man and Spider Man. But like, like
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: when I showed this figure to her in hand, the
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: actual final you know, tasseled figure, She's like you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: this is beautiful. It looks like she wanted to cry
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: because she knows how much like I poured into it,
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And just there's no way
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: you could deny the quality and the craftsmanship of that.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: So right now they're closed there being our factory in
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: China or Chinese New Year, they close down for like,
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: you know, almost five weeks. So once they're zoom, we
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: have the blisters done, we have the cards done, all
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: that shit. So like once it's actually finally back up
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: in the resume services, I hope to have those on
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: a boat by like the middle of April, to hopefully
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: be here two months from them, so like June. But
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: that's another thing. I want to have him up for
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: sale before the end of March, before April, and then boom,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: we just get him in and people are like, wow,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: this talk about worth the wait. This is These are
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: the best Randy Savage figures we've ever seen in our
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: life period.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: So oh damn, yeah, that's awesome.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: It's cool. I enjoy it. A little ride back, huh
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: right back figures coming out.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: You love the variety of wrestlers, you know, you have
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: old school guys, current guys.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: See, we have a lot of current guys. So for
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: ride back to sneak in there, so like kind of
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Elak company. Actually yeah, he's really us three Dan House
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: at a ne Gage and Johnny Gargana.
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just you know, like you know right back, you know,
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: he has name value and you know he was popular
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: when he was around, and you know, like you know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: it was uh, I feel like it was worth it
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: to do because with his figure, like there was reuse,
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Like that's the reuse of the hercules body believe it
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: or not. So like the single lead is actually painted on,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: but it's so good and it's so well done, like
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: you can't even notice that, and so like, yeah, so
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: it was fast to make his figure, but I did
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: have him signed for like about two years or whatever
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: it was. But yeah, so his figure will probably be
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: out sooner than later because it was pretty easy to do.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: Once again, you have those bodies ready.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: So just in New Head, I think it looks great.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: And you know, right back, he has his fan base
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: and he has people who don't like him. But I
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: think the like you said, the positive outways the negative.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: You know, like yeah, maybe his haters won't buy it,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: but his fans will, So it's not these figures aren't
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: for you know, his haters or anybody who. You know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: the figures you make on for people who don't like you,
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: the people who like the figures.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, man, exactly. And it's such a cool like
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not just blowing smoke. It's a really like cool
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: looking figure. Like you know, there's no way you can
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: look at and be like, damn, this is awesome, regardless
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: if you know who Ryeback is or you like him
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: or you don't like him, and like, the whole thing
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: is whether the figure is really cool and like has
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: a cool design, like a ride back figure or a
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: guy that's just wearing just basic tights. I wanted to
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: make every figure look cool where it's like you almost
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: have to have him, regardless if you like the guy
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: or not, you know what I mean. Like, I wanted
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: to make him just look look awesome, Like it could
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: be the most basic guy. I'm not going to mention
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: any wrestlers, but the most basic figure I want to
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: turn into a must have, you know, so honestly.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: So, someone posted on our Patreon and I didn't know
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: it was yours. I was like, Wow, that's really nice.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Who made that?
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was yeah, yeah, I was gonna post it
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: until like it was in hand because again, like I'm
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: doing so much stuff behind the scenes, Like you know
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: how people are, like i'll post something today like oh you're.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Co do you know what I mean? Like I want
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: to comment, so like.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: The idea I had in mind, I wanted to post
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: that be like you know right back, you know, coming
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: you know, twenty twenty five, and you know, see all
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: the comments and then boom the next day in hand
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: shock shell shock drop.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: And like you have it in hands.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: So whatever, So I will say, you're you're you're hyping
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: and you're you're you know, you've gone above beyond, like
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: with the commercials we seem punked. You know, you in
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: the Abdul the Butcher commercial. You know, you invest in yourself.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: You understand what it's. You know, it's not just an
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Instagram post. You know, sometimes you go the extra mile,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: and like for even your your hater's got to respect that.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're putting your your time, your money into this.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: You're you're investing so much into these figures, and it
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: shows I really feel like your figures. You know, I've
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: said it publicly before like to me, this is my opinion.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: I love your retros better than anybody else I do.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: I collect Epic. I think Epic has been doing better
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: and better, even Mitch who went from like you know,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: glorified custom that I made in eighth grade, so now.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: His figures are are way better.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: But I think like your I could picture your figures
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: like in the adult section of like Walmart Target. You
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like just the packaging, the detail,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: someone would hold it up, you know it just everything
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: looks super super professional, you know, not.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Not any of the goal of the sixth inch to
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: get into like that section or.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely into like a big box retailer,
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: because right now, without giving too much away, I'm trying
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: to put those at a very aggressive price, Like you
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: know a lot of people are thinking, you know, one
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: hundred bucks, eighty bucks. No, I can assure you we're
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: gonna do our best to get them like in line
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: to the point you see that you're gonna be like,
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: what now I have to get them all I was
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: thinking about getting that, but now we get the whole set,
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: Like that's where I want to be. And again at
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: the end, of the day, it's gonna possibly cost us
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: less money to get these guys out there because of
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: all the reuse, where as he's four and a half
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: inch guys, for the most part, they're all like built
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: from the ground up specifically for that guy. Very few
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: reuse you know, Yes, I just mentioned rya back and hercules,
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: but other than that, there's very little reuse for these figures.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, I'm hoping to
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: have a lower cost for me, which in turn I
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: pass on to consumers, and then also a faster turnaround time.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: So we're trying to get those at a really competitive price.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: With that being said, with this good price, I hope
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: to shop that around two major retailers and have those
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: being able to be on shelves, whether it be a
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: Target or Walmart. Fye hot topic, So be it like,
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: this isn't a niche like, you know, a nineties inspired figure.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: This is now modern scale figures at a good competitive
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: price along with other figures in that market. So I
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: hope that once we get out there, once these are
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: in hand that purchases, we'll see that and we could
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: actually have some shelf space at major stores, So we'll
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: see what happens.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Damn well, Zombie, I mean, we just supposed to be
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: twenty minutes, but we went over over forty five.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: You you know, we can talk to you all day.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I'm super fascinated by your story, your journey, and you
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: know I'm a fan, I'm a collector.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: You know I'm in the line four times very much.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: But hey, I'm working on my second time.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's coming. I have the I showed you pictures
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: of it, right.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get they lose track. You've showed me a
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: lot of updates.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and see how crazy like, oh the lip colors
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: to this color? We need to take off the lips again,
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: back and forth. I could have been like, hey, here's
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: your figure. We're done. It's in hand right now. Can't
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: do that?
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: So cool?
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Well, Zombie, is there anything else you want to plug
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: or tea's before we get out of here?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Not really?
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, well this is cool. Is a good
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: buddy of mine. I mean, y'all show it in hand.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: This he's going to definitely be in a series six,
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: or maybe we could do a standalone release, but he's
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: tentatively slated to be in Heels of vas Ery six.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: But we have our good buddy roadkill.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Wow Welvw's own first time ever.
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a collector.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Really, I feel like I maybe broke that deal I
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: think you did.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: This was like back in like nineteen eighty two.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: But uh, you really have to get into store so
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Roco can go and buy and scalp his own figure
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: and sell it for more money. Hey you need any
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: door now? Oh yeah, Oh.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: I'm looking down with you like a little shell full
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: of like upcoming guys. Do you you want to see
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: some more.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course we do. Do you want to see
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: some more figure? Yes, of course we do. I want
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: to say that BUCKYO hair man on.
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: Car behind the Oh yeah, dude, that that's a that's
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: an unreleased BUCKYO hair figure. It was five than one
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: hundred dollars. I said, I kid you not.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: That's wow insane hair figures when I was a kids.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: See, well, I don't have much stuff here. I usually
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: have like you know a lot of shit in my
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: office at the warehouse. But like this is unpainted. But
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: believe me, we have the figure done like I mentioned.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: But uh, this is like you know, like a a
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: first shot they call of like macho man, Macho King.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yes, sir, I had a nice little vein
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: on the forearm.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Man. I like that. I might need to add a
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: van in the form on my next thing.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: If Macho has a vein in the forearm, yeah.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: One of we can. We can make it happen. That's
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: really it, man. I mean as far as figure, well, yeah,
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: I was gonna show another one, but I just realized
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: it was for a movie property that I have yet
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: to fucking show. Yeah, I have right yet, but I
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: can't do Yeah. Yeah, that's that's a different breed, you
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: know what I mean, like with licensing for like you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: of course, but uh yeah, man, that's a that's pretty
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: much it. But yeah, that's my that's my pride. Enjoy
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: that BUCKYO Hair figure. I love that line. It popped
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: up on eBay a couple of months ago and I
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: got I paid way more than I should have and
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: I could have. But that's a figure I wanted since
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety seven. There was like a toe Mart's Action
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: Figure magazine and they showed this whole series of unreleased figures.
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: It to mart It's one of those fucking magazines whatever.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: I was like, Oh my god, I wish I could
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: have one. They've eluded me my entire adult collecting life,
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: and one popped up, so I had to do it.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: And that's like, pal, yeah, I appreciate it.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Guys, Well thanks for doing this, buddy.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Sit in the hot seat with the Major Rest Figure podcast.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to get any people are
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: still going to say.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: That we.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: About the long arms. They're gonna ask all those questions.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, dude, it's insane.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: If you want to ask me about it now, I'll
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: tell you they're not that long. They're just normal, you
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. And that's I'm fucking I'm looking
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: at a whole Cogan Hasbro figure right behind me. It's
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: it's no different than we literally measured that in King
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Kong Bundy arms and they're they're literal same exact length.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, hey, a little behind the scenes before
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: we go zombie, if you could stand in the middle
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: of the frame please and look like really scared and
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: now I look down on them like like that, Broski,
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: look up like that, like what like look up that way? Yeah,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: and and like you're asking them a serious question. All right, yeah, okay,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: all right, right, there's the thumb.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Well, we got you.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: We'll set that up.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks Zobie, Thanks zom.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: You guys, I appreciate it.
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