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Navigating Wellness in High-Stakes Law with Dan Scharr · Justice Team Podcast

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  Welcome to this episode of the justice team podcast on the justice team network.
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  I'm your host, Bob Simon.
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  And today we're getting into a deep dive with a very famous trial lawyer named Dan
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  Schar who comes to us from Santa Cruz.
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  And we're talking about health and wellness and some of the things that
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  lawyers don't like to talk about and that we should be talking about.
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  And I, you know, I'm very, I've been very much looking forward to this
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  conversation because I don't get to see Dan that often unless we go to trial
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  seminars or sometimes See each other with the kids at conferences and things.
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  Um, so Dan, thanks for coming on.
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  Yeah, I
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  mean, it's great seeing you.
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  Um, came in from Santa Cruz today?
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  I
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  did, early this morning, 6am flight.
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  Woof.
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  Back home tonight, so.
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  Well.
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  You know, this is life, right?
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  It is life, a lot of these in and out things.
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  But, um, first time I met Dan in person was I was trying a case in
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  Santa Cruz and he knew the judge and there was this person that looked
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  like Thor in the back of the room that just had a long hair, you know, big
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  beard and just coming in in a suit.
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  And I was like, trying to talk, I was like, who is this?
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  It was Dan Scharr, the trial lawyer, the local guy.
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  And just, I mean, I'm getting a very good verdict in that courtroom
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  and Dan helped us every day because you knew the judge, Judge Burdick,
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  who's now private, who's awesome.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  I just actually,
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  I, I had mediated a case just a couple of weeks ago with Paul.
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  Now that I'm first name basis with him, you know, unless I need
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  something from him, then it's judge.
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  Um, so Dan, one of the things we want to talk to you about is how, you know, your
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  commitment to preventative health, right.
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  What that means for you and how, you know, we do high stakes litigation
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  and trials flying around a lot.
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  You know, you're all over the country doing stuff.
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  You have a family at home.
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  How are you able to take care of yourself?
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  I mean, it's hard.
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  It's, yeah, it's really hard.
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  I mean, it's, you know, it's one of those things where, you know,
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  it's, it's high stakes work.
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  But the fact is, it's like, there's a reason why we engage
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  in this high stakes work.
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  It's because we want to enjoy the life.
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  And, and so really the way that you have to do it, you just got to find the time.
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  Um, you know, just like we find the time to prepare for trial, just like we find
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  the time to talk to our clients, you have to, you have to carve out that time and
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  you know, nobody's going to do it for you.
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  And yeah, unfortunately we were in this profession where health and
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  wellness usually takes a backseat.
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  Um, if it's, if it's even in the car.
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  Um, and so, you know, for me, there's, there's those, I had
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  to engage in a lot of efforts.
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  Now, of course, for me, I had, you know, The fortune to have an unfortunate health
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  scare a few years ago, you know, and, you know, when you're sitting there and
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  thinking that your life truly is flashing before your eyes on the kitchen floor,
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  it's sort of, it throws you for a loop.
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  And so, you know, I had that event that sort of triggered my, my, my
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  journey, but now that I'm in it.
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  It allows me to sit here and talk to other lawyers and say, Hey,
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  listen, you got to just look at this.
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  You got to do these things and realize that the amount of time that
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  you put into your work, you should be meeting or exceeding that amount
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  in putting it into your personal life and your health and wellness.
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  So it's just,
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  but you know, it's, it's hard though.
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  You know, what's our schedule?
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  You know, people always ask me like, well, what's your schedule like?
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  And it's like, well, it's, it's different every day.
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  Yes.
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  Right.
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  As a lawyer, what we do, you and I, it's different every day.
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  And then, so it's hard.
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  To be intentional and plan, when am I going to get my meditations in?
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  When am I going to get my workout in?
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  When am I going to get my outdoor activity, which I'm big on
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  these days, is being outdoors.
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  So what are some things that, that you're doing because you're a very healthy dude,
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  even though you have the health scare.
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  If you look at this guy's like Adonis, if we had to pick a Greek
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  God, I don't know about that.
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  I'm trying, man.
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  I'm trying, I'm trying to get this guy to blush.
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  Doesn't work.
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  But like, what are some things that you do where you can help
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  folks with just some advice?
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  So I try on the weekends and first and foremost, you know, my wife is phenomenal.
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  Like she gets it.
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  And so I guess that's, you know, that's the first thing is,
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  you know, Find a good partner.
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  But that being said, she knows that on Saturdays or Sundays.
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  I just need 10 minutes to carve out my week.
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  And so I can kind of look at it.
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  Um, and, and know it's like, okay, like this week, this week has been
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  a difficult week for me to get workouts in just because I had big
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  depots and I had stuff going on.
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  So that'll mean that the workouts will get shifted to the weekend.
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  But if I got that week where I can look at it, um, I try to
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  take advantage of my lunch hour.
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  Um, and that, uh, almost everybody, Is willing to take a lunch hour, so
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  I've made the decision of pre eating.
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  So like 1145 I eat while I'm working so that when noon hits, I get my hour.
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  Oh, I like that.
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  Yeah, my team knows it.
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  So, you know, I've had that with the team.
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  It's like, hey, unless it's an emergency situation, noon to one is no go.
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  Nothing gets scheduled, nothing gets done there.
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  And so my team knows that and I can pre plan for it.
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  So sometimes I don't eat at 1145.
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  Let's say, for example, it hits me and I can't do it.
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  Well, then I maybe shift that workout to a rucking workout
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  where I'll throw my weighted backpack on and I'll walk and eat.
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  So that changes the workout plan.
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  If I've got my food, I'll swim, I'll run, I'll ride the bike.
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  Maybe I'll get a workout in at home, those types of things.
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  So that was something I did is carve out lunch hour for that because it's
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  hard for me to get up in the morning.
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  To work out because my kids get up early.
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  My son.
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  My son is
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  up.
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  How was your youngest?
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  He said he's four and he's an alarm clock if he sleeps in past six o'clock.
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  That's a sleep That's it's almost that's
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  like the magic number exactly exactly like today.
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  I was able to get up.
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  I was up for 45 days I got a workout in at 5 a.
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  m.
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  You got like 30 45 minute workout in and It's rare because if I can get up that
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  early and be motivated I can do it But if I if I don't start by 515, I know
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  the kids are up by six, like clockwork.
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  Exactly.
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  Yeah.
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  So for me, I've shifted away from relying on my morning workout.
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  Um, and you know, I don't try to push things off until the evening
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  because, you know, one of two things happens in the evening.
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  One, I'm either tired and I don't have the motivation or,
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  you know, the energy to do it.
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  And I'm also, I work out hard and if my body is not in a position to work out
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  hard, I'm gonna get hurt if I push it.
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  Um, but the other big thing is I like having dinner with my kids.
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  I like sitting down and, you know, sometimes it's just chaos, but it's
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  that, that, that time with them.
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  And by the time they're down for bed, it's eight o'clock and maybe I'll,
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  I'll get something in that evening.
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  But the best time for me is that lunch
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  hour.
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  Yeah.
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  There's, for me, there's no way after.
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  Like 5 p.
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  m.
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  I just can't do it.
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  Like it's just kid time and I'm tired.
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  Well, let's talk about, let's take a switch and talk about preventative stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  Because I know both you and I go to the same clinic in Denver.
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  Yep.
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  Um, and I think it's one of the best things I've ever done.
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  If somebody forced me, like you got to go do this and we did it.
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  My wife and I, and I love it.
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  Good.
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  Um, so why don't you tell people about that preventative
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  medicine and how you're using it.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, it's, it's, it's a, it's a gift that I had an
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  opportunity to meet Chad, Dr.
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  Prosimak.
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  He runs Resilience Code and he works directly with Jeffrey Boone, who's a
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  cardiologist, um, Boone Heart Clinic.
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  Yeah.
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  And, and these are guys that, you know, this is cutting edge,
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  cutting, cutting edge stuff.
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  And I, I didn't realize how much testing was available for us until I
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  got the testing and it's it's shocking how Reactive medicine is for us.
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  You know, we live in the greatest country in the world and we have a
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  reactive medicine that basically says we're not going to deal with anything
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  until Something bad illness has set in.
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  Chronic illness has set in and we are now not preventing anything.
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  We are just baking.
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  We're figuring out how you can live longer with chronic illness
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  and that's just not a way to live.
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  So what I've done with this is I've been seeing Chad and Dr.
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  Boone now for, it'll be three years.
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  Yeah.
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  Three years in December.
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  You know, um, got the blood work done, figured out, you know, what was
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  going on with a lot of different stuff and just kind of got on the path.
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  And I've got, I'm healthier now.
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  I mean, I was a college soccer player and I'm in better shape now
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  than I was when I was, it's funny.
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  I feel that way too.
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  It's 19 years old.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, could I, am I physically able to do the things that I could put on 19?
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  No.
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  But if you were to put me on, you know, 19-year-old me, now
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  19-year-old, me next to 47-year-old me.
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  Um, 47 year old me is going to be in better physical condition.
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  I might not be as fast as 19 year old me, but
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  I'm in better shape.
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  And like we do the same thing.
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  And you know, one thing is a preventative, it like makes sure the
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  plaque in your arteries and things like jelly and it just dissipates.
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  Um, I'm on something called Repatha.
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  Then my doctor put me on as preventative and Dr.
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  Poon.
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  And like we went on the, you know, checking your hormone
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  panels, all these other things.
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  So I actually tried the weight loss ozempic for one
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  week and it made me so sick.
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  Okay.
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  That I cannot do it
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  right.
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  I was like, yeah, that's not for me.
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  But we, I, for the first time in the past few weeks, I started
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  testosterone injections, right?
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  Mm-Hmm . And I feel amazing, right?
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  Like, 'cause it was a low score and I was like, you know, 'cause
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  I'm taking a lot of stress.
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  Well, you're what, 44?
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  44?
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  44?
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  Yeah.
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  I mean,
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  yeah, right around that age.
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  Because they say that's a critical age where you start
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  to age is like 45 and then 60.
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  And I felt it, you know, it's like I'm working on a lot, but not a lot
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  of energy, not a lot of results.
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  And I eat pretty good, just, you got kids though, you're eating chicken
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  nuggets and scraping food, right?
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  And it's hard.
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  So I felt a big change with that kind of stuff.
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  And you know, they, they reevaluate, you do blood panels, more physicals and be
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  able to figure out what's working for you.
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  Cause everybody's different.
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  Exactly.
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  I mean, I've got, I've had more blood drawn in the last three years than I
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  think in the first 44 years of my life.
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  And I mean, I think this is one of the things that, you know, The way that
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  medicine is set up in our country right now, it's sort of, it's almost like a four
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  letter word to talk about medications.
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  And it's, it's, these are the things that I think we have to realize that as, as
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  human beings, there are a select few of us that are genetically gifted that we don't
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  develop chronic illness until we're in our 70s, And those are the people that live,
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  you know, you talk about these blue zones, you know, like Loma Linda and Sardinia.
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  And these are people that just, you know, they, something's going on with them.
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  It's, well, it's, it's genetics.
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  Well, unfortunately, 98 percent of us don't have those genetics.
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  And the fact is that chronic illness starts setting in, in
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  our twenties, we don't know about it because it's a slow process.
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  So we get into our forties guys like you and I, And we're still maintaining.
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  And then we get a bunch of blood drawn and it's like, Oh my God, like, Hey, you've
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  got a B levels that are through the roof.
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  And I'll be, I'm a, your cholesterol is under control.
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  But there's this little thing called LP little lay that nobody talks about.
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  That's like the culprit.
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  Like you hear about people that have had heart attacks in their thirties,
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  forties and fifties and they've died.
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  And you're like, what happens?
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  It's like, well, there's this little thing called LP little
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  lay that nobody tests for that.
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  It's the silent killer.
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  You know, and you find these things out and it, There has to be a proactive
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  approach to it and, you know, testing and medications and, you know, for a
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  long time, I was like, I don't need this.
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  I just, you know, diet, diet can help.
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  But the fact is, is that you're not gonna be able to fight off chronic
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  illness if you're predisposed to it.
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  So you've got to know, and this is where we can get the blood draws.
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  You go on the medications and you feel better.
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  And yes, I'm 47 and I do testosterone supplementation as well.
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  Because.
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  I'm 47 and guess what?
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  I don't need the testosterone of a 20 year old, but the body
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  still wants it and still needs it.
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  And so I don't think we need to be as afraid of going down that
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  path, but we have to be educated.
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  And if you don't want to do it, that's okay.
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  But you know, the ignorance is bliss stuff is.
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  is not me
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  anymore.
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  And
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  yeah, and I've learned to a dog.
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  I was so hesitant just for some, no, I don't know.
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  It was a macho thing or like, I don't need that.
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  I'm not going to talk about it.
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  I'm not going to do it.
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  It's like, well, why not?
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  And then, you know, cause my wife's very preventative.
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  She's been doing this stuff for a long time.
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  That's, you know, when she speaks on it and does those things.
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  And then I finally listened to her and I feel a lot better.
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  So thanks Chrissy.
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  Cause I finally listened to you.
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  And you know, a lot more like she provides me like different supplements,
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  different stuff to take and um, you know, and it's a game changer.
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  It is, especially for.
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  Sometimes when we're in trial, for instance, you can only do so much.
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  You're at the mercy of the court schedule and you still have
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  life before and after court.
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  And it's hard.
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  What are some things that you Dan shard do during trial that helps
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  you still be health and wellness?
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  It's sort of, it takes that, that, that weekend plan.
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  And I just expanded out to the, to the course of trial.
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  Like, like if I, and, and, and, uh, I'm human.
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  Trust me.
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  There's, there's, there are trials.
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  And, you know, when, when Jacob and Eva and Ansley listened to this podcast, the
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  trial we had in Oakland, yeah, there were a couple of nights where we ordered pizza.
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  Like, I'm still a human, but it's, it's sort of like, my wife always says,
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  you know, everything in moderation.
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  And so, um, you know, if you can stick to it during trial, like trial, the
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  rules get, you know, Relax a little bit because it's like, okay, I, I can't get
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  the lunchtime workouts in because I'm prepping witnesses for the afternoon and
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  when I get home for the evening, you know, I probably need to prep for tomorrow.
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  Um, the one thing that I do stick to in trial is sleep.
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  And it's funny, I agree with that because people are always
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  like, oh, I sacrifice sleep.
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  Um, sleep is probably, so sleep is my workout during trial and, and
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  so it's, I mean, I, I will try to work out like, you know, Once Friday
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  afternoon is the session is done.
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  Yeah, I will crank out and I'll get a good hard run in or a good
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  hard workout Friday after session.
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  And I will work out on Saturday and Sunday, but during the week,
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  Sunday night to Thursday night.
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  Sleep is the workout and, and I'm talking and you may fall out of your chair.
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  I'm talking eight hours of sleep.
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  No, I
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  look, I agree.
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  A hundred percent.
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  Like I'm, you know, as soon as I get done with most people, travelers,
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  I don't know why they do that.
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  Like they want to burn the midnight oil to those things.
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  Like, no, I'm more productive in the morning.
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  So what I do is I, after court, I do my witness prep schedule, do,
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  you know, prepare my PowerPoint to where I know I'm going with closing.
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  Talk to my team and I'm off the grid by 730.
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  Yeah,
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  I'm usually nine.
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  I'm a
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  9pm
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  to 5am.
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  I know I'm going to get up at five.
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  I know that what's going to happen is I will snap awake and so that's why I know
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  I got to go to bed a little earlier.
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  Um, and so yeah, that's sort of my, and unless I'm in Santa Cruz, I usually will
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  stay like even if I'm going to try a case in San Jose, I'll stay in San Jose.
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  Um, and my wife and family, like that's their sacrifice and.
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  Um, you know, and I appreciate the support that I get from them.
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  I mean, I FaceTime with them every night, but they know that that's
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  what's going to happen so that I can do, get the work in, get the sleep in.
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  Um, because yeah, I mean, it's, if you're doing what we're doing, and
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  even if you're, you know, a new trial lawyer, if you are trying
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  a case, you're prepared enough.
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  Like, I know you may not feel that you're prepared enough, but you're prepared
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  enough that you do not need to be burning.
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  Yeah.
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  Cause then you start overthinking.
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  You're overthinking it.
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  Yeah.
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  And then you just can't do that.
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  But you know, you do need to have technical prep stuff for the next day.
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  I do agree on, but yeah.
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  And that's why the preparation I think is, is key to that.
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  But I'm big thing.
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  I have to get sleep and I overly hydrate.
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  Yes.
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  I drank a lot of water and I tried to like make a big, big point of that.
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  Yeah.
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  Throughout the, uh, when I get up throughout the day,
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  nothing I've been doing is.
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  I just get up and chug like three glasses of water before I do anything.
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  Just pre hydrate, yeah.
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  It's not so stupid or easy, but it
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  works.
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  Yeah, I mean there's nothing, I shouldn't say there's nothing wrong with drinking a
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  ton of water, obviously, you know, there's aspects, but when I say, you know, you
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  get up and you drink a couple glasses of water, that's going to cause you no harm.
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  I mean, and that's, it's, it's, yeah, it's, you gotta do it.
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  And I mean, cause this is the thing we don't think about.
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  And I know for me, if I don't drink enough, I'm going to get
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  headaches and then my performance goes down and it just, it's that.
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  That cycle.
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  And so, you know, the other thing too, I mean, I, and I don't drink anymore
• 15:52
  anyway, but even when I was still a drinker, I didn't drink during trial.
• 15:56
  Um, I used to have that, but it was more of a superstition for me.
• 15:58
  But now what I do is I have at least one drink every day sandwiches for you.
• 16:02
  She still does.
• 16:03
  When she was, when she was at, we were in orange County
• 16:05
  office, we'd make one every time.
• 16:05
  But I had to say, I have a tuna fish sandwich and care the same thing.
• 16:09
  Same thing.
• 16:10
  That's my trial diet.
• 16:11
  Yeah.
• 16:12
  No, but the thing is everything in moderation and I've never built,
• 16:14
  I would say the SIF is the only one that operates in absolutes.
• 16:17
  So you can't absolutely say this is the best thing and to cut this out or
• 16:20
  do that, do what works for you, man.
• 16:22
  Well, that's exactly
• 16:23
  it.
• 16:23
  It's sort of the same thing we were talking about before.
• 16:24
  You know, you and I, you and I, I mean the, the testing and the steps that
• 16:29
  we've undertaken for our own health and wellness, you know, is towards the apex.
• 16:34
  I mean, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're on Everest with this
• 16:36
  and not everybody can get there.
• 16:37
  And I'm not saying that everybody has to be there.
• 16:39
  But for me, and what I tell almost everybody that I come across,
• 16:43
  it's like you will find out so much through your blood and the
• 16:49
  tests are not that expensive.
• 16:50
  Yeah, it's a little bit of an inconvenience, but they're not that
• 16:52
  expensive and get that knowledge
• 16:55
  and then you can decide and make sure you go to somebody that can actually
• 16:57
  know the right panels and what to look for and to be preventative.
• 17:00
  Like, you know, prostate cancer runs in my family.
• 17:02
  I get it checked all the time to make sure, you know, and like I
• 17:05
  even had my seven year old daughter.
• 17:07
  My seven year old daughter who's adopted, so we don't have the privilege of having
• 17:10
  like the genealogy and stuff like that.
• 17:12
  And so we have to, we have to know.
• 17:14
  So I had her tested recently and it was, you know, she hates
• 17:16
  needles, it was traumatic.
• 17:17
  But like, I had someone detailed read all those panels to see because we don't
• 17:21
  know some genetic markers and thank God everything's fantastic, you know, and
• 17:24
  there's some little things that she can do that shouldn't be a game changer for her.
• 17:28
  But why not do that with children?
• 17:29
  You know, um, there's nothing, I mean, it's, yeah, it's
• 17:33
  ignorance is, it's not bliss anymore.
• 17:37
  I mean, it's dangerous and it's like, I know the genetic markers that I have.
• 17:42
  And I know the, you know, the congenital defect that I had in my heart that
• 17:46
  created all these issues that.
• 17:48
  I didn't think I had.
• 17:49
  So
• 17:49
  now
• 17:49
  I've got
• 17:50
  this
• 17:50
  insight.
• 17:50
  Especially a collegiate soccer player.
• 17:52
  Yeah.
• 17:52
  I never think I would have known, right.
• 17:54
  Not only that,
• 17:55
  but a technical, I mean, dude, I, in my twenties, I probably logged between.
• 18:00
  five and 10, 000 scuba dives.
• 18:01
  And many of those were long decompression dives.
• 18:04
  Like there was a lot of things that should have happened to me because of the
• 18:07
  condition that I had that didn't happen.
• 18:09
  And it didn't catch up with me until I was 44 and I'm still in great shape when I was
• 18:12
  44, but it's like finding that now I know.
• 18:15
  So like when my kids get to an age where they can be tested for not only the
• 18:19
  genetic issues, but possibly congenital issues, thankfully the congenital issue
• 18:23
  is not hereditary, just, just bad luck.
• 18:25
  You know, it has nothing to do with anything my parents did
• 18:27
  wrong or anything my parents had.
• 18:29
  But it's a condition that I now know exists.
• 18:32
  So yeah, my kids will get tested for that.
• 18:33
  They'll get tested for the genetic abnormalities.
• 18:35
  Hopefully, everything that's that's there can either be treated,
• 18:42
  you can be proactive with it.
• 18:43
  And if it's if it's not, I should say maybe cured, but if it can't be cured,
• 18:48
  it can be managed through medication.
• 18:50
  And, you know, this is, this is sort of the way medicine, I think,
• 18:54
  should be proceeding forward.
• 18:55
  Because if you're waiting for the chronic disease to catch up with you and then
• 18:59
  you're treating it, all you're really doing is living with chronic disease.
• 19:03
  Maybe we should
• 19:03
  try to
• 19:03
  prevent
• 19:04
  it.
• 19:04
  Yeah.
• 19:05
  And that's, you know, a lot of our friends now, we have gotten on the plane to take
• 19:09
  them to the Boone Heart Clinic and Dr.
• 19:11
  Pressmac.
• 19:12
  So if you guys are listening, we give a shout out to like, who's, you know,
• 19:14
  transformed our lives and thank you.
• 19:16
  So some of the things, you know, advice for our, you
• 19:18
  know, viewers, listeners, etc.
• 19:21
  Just some practical things you could be doing tomorrow, right?
• 19:24
  So I'll say, I'm a big into hydration.
• 19:27
  Everybody knows I drink.
• 19:28
  I have a bourbon talk show.
• 19:29
  I still do in moderation, like I know what my limit is, even though we sometimes
• 19:33
  do four episodes a day and it's a lot.
• 19:35
  I prepare myself and make sure that we can do that.
• 19:37
  I'm a big believer in being outside.
• 19:40
  I think it's, there's a happiness thing to it.
• 19:41
  I live by the beach.
• 19:42
  I try to get into the water as much as I can.
• 19:44
  It's very therapeutic and calming for me.
• 19:46
  Every time I go, I'm like, this is the best thing I could be doing.
• 19:48
  And it's 15 degrees warmer down here than it is.
• 19:50
  Oh dude, it's been warm.
• 19:53
  For the Pacific, it's been warm here.
• 19:54
  But it's been nice.
• 19:55
  Um, but I think that, and also preventative medicine, I'm actually,
• 19:58
  you know, on a regimen of medication.
• 20:00
  It's not a crazy ton, but it's, I've noticed a substantial change.
• 20:03
  Yeah.
• 20:03
  In mood, appearance, happiness.
• 20:06
  That's it.
• 20:06
  Yeah.
• 20:07
  I mean, I would agree with all those things.
• 20:09
  And then putting in the one thing that we haven't really talked, touched
• 20:12
  on directly, but it's sort of, is overlaying everything, is, is the
• 20:16
  mental health component of things.
• 20:18
  Two things that I started to implement and again, I'm human I don't I wish I
• 20:24
  could tell you I do this 100 percent of the time, but I try my best is
• 20:28
  Two additional things that I've implemented is gratitude journals,
• 20:31
  which I take five minutes a day and it just basically write down What are the
• 20:35
  three great things that happened today?
• 20:37
  What are three things that I learned and what would make tomorrow great and it
• 20:41
  takes you five minutes You can just go on Amazon and type in gratitude journal you
• 20:45
  write it down and the other thing too And you'll love this and Christina love this.
• 20:49
  I know Monique loves it When I'm done with work, whether I work
• 20:53
  at home or work in the office The first time I see my wife or my kids.
• 20:59
  It doesn't matter what kind of day I had It's always a positive comment
• 21:04
  Yeah, I
• 21:05
  find whatever pot I could have had terrible day.
• 21:08
  It could have lost a summary joke.
• 21:09
  Something could have happened during work that made the day terrible.
• 21:12
  The first thing that comes out of my mouth to my wife and kids
• 21:15
  is something positive and it
• 21:17
  frames up the rest of the day.
• 21:19
  And we do the same thing when you wake up in the morning.
• 21:21
  Yes.
• 21:21
  Every big hugs, big hugs, big love is what we do.
• 21:24
  And then positivity, right?
• 21:26
  If, cause like today, this morning, my four year old came out, she was, She
• 21:30
  came down really upset and crying because my two year old got up and put on the
• 21:34
  new Descendants movie And she's like, how could you start this without me?
• 21:36
  There's this whole big thing That's we're gonna go back up to your room have a
• 21:40
  little reset that little you time and she came down ten minutes later It's a daddy.
• 21:43
  I'm sorry I gave a hug and was just changed change it But if you let that
• 21:48
  that come out the way like I like that man, that's it's those little things
• 21:51
  and that's as Pammy honestly, it's like Kids like they take their cues from us
• 21:57
  and it's just like if we make a big deal about it and I work on it cause I've
• 22:00
  got a four and seven year old as well.
• 22:02
  And in the seven, the seven year old is takes things personally.
• 22:05
  And if the four year old and the four year old, he's a boy, he doesn't care.
• 22:08
  He's just, everything is chaos.
• 22:10
  We're all four
• 22:11
  year olds inside.
• 22:11
  Yes, exactly.
• 22:13
  And so, you know, they take our cues and if we make a big deal about
• 22:16
  something, then they make a big deal.
• 22:17
  Whereas if we take that, it's like, Hey, let's just do a reset.
• 22:21
  And yeah, it's usually better.
• 22:22
  We're the ones, the adults that let it linger.
• 22:24
  And yeah, we
• 22:25
  overreact.
• 22:26
  And I would, I would actually, I tell my children, I apologize for
• 22:28
  overreacting or being this way.
• 22:30
  And I always tell them, don't, I've, there was this one book.
• 22:32
  I never read it, but it's called don't sweat the small stuff.
• 22:34
  I tell them all the time, guys, this doesn't matter in
• 22:36
  the grand scheme of things.
• 22:37
  Look what's happened.
• 22:37
  We, I show them our cases all the times.
• 22:39
  They'll call, this is the horror and things that can happen.
• 22:41
  We have a blessed life.
• 22:42
  This is not.
• 22:43
  It's not having this toy that I may be able to share.
• 22:45
  Not a big deal.
• 22:46
  Is it right?
• 22:47
  It doesn't work all the time, but you're probably batting
• 22:50
  10 percent on that one.
• 22:52
  Maybe lower,
• 22:52
  but I'll take the 10%.
• 22:54
  But I want to thank Dan.
• 22:55
  Dan is a spearheading at Lottie Graw this year.
• 22:58
  The health and wellness track has a lot of good speakers and
• 23:00
  talent coming to help with that.
• 23:01
  Education like this and actually workshop ideas with people on how they can get
• 23:05
  better Um, and I know dan's at santa cruz.
• 23:08
  He's a fantastic trial lawyer He's on attorney share.
• 23:11
  You can drop them cases on there.
• 23:12
  You can find them.
• 23:13
  Um at char silva.
• 23:15
  com What are what other ways can they reach out to you?
• 23:17
  So I also do work with nick nick rallies from tl4j trialers for justice.
• 23:21
  I do that Um, and so yeah, this this is this fall is going to be kind of a
• 23:25
  busy fall Um, i'm not only going to be doing the health and wellness track at
• 23:29
  laudigrass I'm also going to be teaching at TLU, Travelers University in Vegas.
• 23:35
  Um, we're going to be doing, um, case framing and sort of getting
• 23:40
  people to sort of the plug and play.
• 23:42
  You know, it's, I think one of the things that lawyers lose sight of is,
• 23:47
  you know, they get these cases and they just don't know what to do with them.
• 23:49
  So we're going to take the approach of how we case frame, but also there's
• 23:52
  always going to be that overarching overlay of, you know, Humanity, health
• 23:57
  and wellness, and, and, and utilize.
• 23:59
  So if anybody's
• 23:59
  been, I've been to the trial by human workshops.
• 24:02
  They just had one in Montana recently.
• 24:03
  I've been in the one in Santa Barbara.
• 24:05
  Barbara, you've been in Atlanta.
• 24:07
  You've been in Boston.
• 24:08
  You've been in Iowa.
• 24:09
  I think we did Des Moines, yeah.
• 24:10
  And then, yeah, we did Montana.
• 24:11
  And next year, fingers crossed, we're going to do Santa Cruz.
• 24:15
  Love it.
• 24:15
  Um, yeah.
• 24:16
  I was just
• 24:16
  talking to Jacob this weekend.
• 24:17
  He was at my house to see if we can do in Ireland.
• 24:19
  Oh, okay.
• 24:20
  Yeah.
• 24:21
  Which would be pretty cool.
• 24:21
  I used
• 24:21
  to live there, you know.
• 24:22
  No way.
• 24:23
  I did.
• 24:23
  We'll talk about that off camera.
• 24:24
  Dan's an interesting dude.
• 24:25
  I didn't know he was.
• 24:26
  Deep scuba diving, whatever the crap you're doing, but trial by humans.
• 24:30
  Fantastic.
• 24:30
  As they teach you how to be a better human and a trial lawyer.
• 24:33
  And I've been through the workshops before.
• 24:35
  Phenomenal.
• 24:36
  And Dan's an instructor there.
• 24:37
  So you can find them a trial by human, reach out to Dan shard directly.
• 24:41
  Yep.
• 24:41
  And then what's your, uh, contact info for folks want to find you in the best
• 24:44
  way?
• 24:45
  I don't, I'm, I'm old school.
• 24:46
  I don't do social media at all.
• 24:47
  Um, you can text me.
• 24:48
  Sorry if I put my number on it.
• 24:50
  Go for it.
• 24:50
  Go for it.
• 24:51
  It's a 408.
• 24:51
  540 8343.
• 24:55
  Do not call me.
• 24:56
  I will not answer.
• 24:57
  I'm the same way.
• 24:57
  Never call me.
• 24:58
  Text me and let me know who you are, what you need.
• 25:01
  I'm really good at getting back to people on text.
• 25:04
  And I will definitely say that is true.
• 25:06
  Well, Dan Sharpe, thanks for coming on this episode of Justice Team Network.
• 25:09
  I think it's very informative and I really enjoyed it.
• 25:11
  I picked up some tips myself.
• 25:13
  Thanks, man.
• 25:13
  And now he's going to host Tips and Sips here at Justice HQ.
• 25:16
  Yeah, we
• 25:16
  got to do that.
• 25:17
  Thank you very much.
• 25:18
  Thank you.
• 25:19
  Thank you guys.