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S5 E9: Everybody Eats...Again?! · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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Speaker 2: You can see you breath out in the lake effect,
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Speaker 2: breaking tables like Giso, would you.
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Speaker 3: Where's would you have to be?
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Speaker 2: And to Ron Elvis in the lay Panchol the members
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Speaker 2: that you need to know. I want you out here now,
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Speaker 2: your family, Where's would you have to be?
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Speaker 4: Where would you be?
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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Nicol City Crew. I am your host,
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Speaker 3: Rob Crippen.
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Speaker 5: here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so glad that
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Speaker 5: you're joining us for some of your buffalo bills and
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Speaker 5: then content again today and as always, these are my
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Speaker 5: bills thoughts set out loud.
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Speaker 1: It's a vibe so ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Two joy p.
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Speaker 1: Eighty three with six owd collect.
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Speaker 5: Where's what you want to be? All right, let's get
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Speaker 5: straight to it. Really really excited for tonight's episode. It's
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Speaker 5: funny because I think the bills are back at Orchard
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Speaker 5: Park today for the Blue and Red Little Scrimmage. I
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Speaker 5: know that I heard South Capacio on WGR talking about
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Speaker 5: all the fans coming in and the kids rushing down
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Speaker 5: to the front of the stadium to go ahead and
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Speaker 5: get their autographs and stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: So really really cool night.
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Speaker 5: I haven't heard anything quite yet on the helmet Josh
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Speaker 5: Allen came out with, but I'm sure we'll get some
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Speaker 5: news on that soon. But listen, it is time to
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Speaker 5: talk about the offense, my favorite topic to talk about
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Speaker 5: last week again. Shout out to coach Marcus Oliver who
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Speaker 5: came on. Really really appreciated him joining us last week
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Speaker 5: and kind of giving his thoughts on the Buffalo Bills
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five defense.
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Speaker 3: Tonight, it's time to get offensive.
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Speaker 5: Everybody eats DT joining me tonight as always my co
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Speaker 5: host writing Shotgun Adam Dump Truck Repsick.
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Speaker 3: Check them out on Instagram and Twitter at Adam Repsick.
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Speaker 5: Are you Pete c Zyk Halla at the Crew DT,
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Speaker 5: It's time to talk about offense.
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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, nicol City, Rob, We're back, baby. Forty five
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Speaker 1: thousand people expected at practice today.
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Speaker 3: Rob.
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Speaker 1: Seventeen years drought. Seventeen years drought. They couldn't give tickets away.
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Speaker 1: We're blacked out. Every week now we got forty five
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Speaker 1: thousand at the stadium for a practice.
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Speaker 3: So it's crazy. It's crazy, man, it's funny.
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Speaker 5: I saw that too on my Instagram driving home from work,
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Speaker 5: and I was like, they some people have the nerve
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Speaker 5: to call this a Savers time. I'm like, the Bills
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Speaker 5: run the seven one sixth. It's not even a comparison.
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Speaker 5: It's not even close. And it's not because of the
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Speaker 5: Savers drought. Is always been a Bill's town. And that's
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Speaker 5: not to pit the fan bases against each other. It's
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Speaker 5: it's just fact. It's a Bill's town.
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Speaker 1: DT.
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Speaker 5: It's funny because as we get ready to talk about
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Speaker 5: offense tonight, I was I always consume a lot of
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Speaker 5: my content, whether it be WGR, whether it be you know,
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Speaker 5: Buffalo Rumblings, which is a popular blog, or whether it
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Speaker 5: be ESPN.
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Speaker 3: Anywhere I can get my Bill's content, I grab it.
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Speaker 5: And I know that we had We talked about the
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Speaker 5: James Cook stuff a couple weeks ago, and there was
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Speaker 5: an article, a piece that was written by our guest
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Speaker 5: and it was really well done.
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Speaker 3: I read the entire thing.
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Speaker 5: I heard his side and his viewpoints and things like that,
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Speaker 5: and I responded to him in the actual blog community
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Speaker 5: there over at Buffalo Rumblings.
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Speaker 3: Well, one thing led.
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Speaker 5: To another DT kind of like coach O, and all
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, I'm talking to him on Twitter and
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Speaker 5: I'm like, man, listen, I would love to have you
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Speaker 5: on and talk offense with us. The twenty twenty five
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Speaker 5: bills Offense joining us tonight. Writer for Buffalo Rumblings, mister Schmute.
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Speaker 5: You can check them out on Instagram and Twitter at
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Speaker 5: Fernando schmud Holla at the crew all the way DT,
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Speaker 5: all the way from Brazil were we are now an
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Speaker 5: international show? Nicol City. Crew has gone international. Man, Holla
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Speaker 5: at the crew, Fernando, what's good Man? How at the crew?
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Speaker 1: Hey? Man?
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Speaker 4: What's up?
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Speaker 3: Rob d T?
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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me and Man, thank
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Speaker 6: you so much. Glad to represent Brazilian Bill's Mafia today
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Speaker 6: here Nicho City and excited to talk some Gil's offense
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Speaker 6: James Cook and everybody.
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Speaker 4: It's for sure.
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Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. You're stealing my notes. Listen.
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Speaker 5: It's funny, Fernando, because I saw your article, your piece
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Speaker 5: that you wrote on on Buffalo Rumblings, and it was
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Speaker 5: interesting because it was very well written and I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 5: My number one thing about it was and we'll get
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Speaker 5: to a little bit later in the show.
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Speaker 3: Was just about how I want.
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Speaker 5: I just want all distractions to be cut out in
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Speaker 5: respects of the twenty twenty five season. Obviously, the goal
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Speaker 5: is a parade, and the goal is to have everything
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Speaker 5: just kind of culminate. So I just want I just
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Speaker 5: wanted Brandon being to pay the man, not fifteen million dollars,
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Speaker 5: but I wanted him to pay him a little something
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Speaker 5: and make make him feel good and stuff like that.
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Speaker 3: And we've talked about that.
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Speaker 5: DT and I have on the show as well, So
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Speaker 5: listen as we get into it. It's funny. We'll talk
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Speaker 5: about James Cook down the road, but everybody eats. And
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Speaker 5: that's the reason I named the episode the way that
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Speaker 5: I did. It's funny, Fernando I had. I actually got
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Speaker 5: into an argument today with somebody on Twitter because they
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Speaker 5: were talking about Terry McLaurin and I was like, let's
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Speaker 5: go get him, and they were like, what is wrong
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Speaker 5: with you guys?
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
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Speaker 5: We were fine, Josh Allen's fine and this and that,
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Speaker 5: and I'm like, listen, man, surround seventeen with as many
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Speaker 5: weapons as possible. There is no such thing as fine
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Speaker 5: for me. What I wanted you to speak on is that.
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Speaker 5: And I told this to the Twitter Bill's follower that
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Speaker 5: was on there. I said, I think that everybody eats
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Speaker 5: is almost poisoned us and I can explain to making
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Speaker 5: us think that Josh Allen doing more with less is okay,
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Speaker 5: And I just don't think that that's the right the
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Speaker 5: way to approach it. And I wanted to get your
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Speaker 5: thoughts on that before we go to DT because it's
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Speaker 5: interesting that how the mindset of Bill's Mafia has kind
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Speaker 5: of shifted, especially after last year and Josh Allen won
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Speaker 5: the MVP, where it's almost as if we're okay with
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Speaker 5: not mediocre talent, but you know a lot of b's
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Speaker 5: and c's, and man, I just I want to surround
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Speaker 5: Josh with as many weapons as possible. And I never
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Speaker 5: see that as a problem. I never see it as
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Speaker 5: something that I don't want to get done and try
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Speaker 5: to accomplish.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Man, it's tough because coming from last season when we
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Speaker 6: had this offense with so so much production and being
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Speaker 6: successful at what they really tried to do, running the ball,
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Speaker 6: taking care of the football, avoiding turnovers, and then going
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Speaker 6: to the other side of the ball.
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Speaker 4: The defense wasn't great, but they were.
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Speaker 6: Great at creating turnovers, right, So they compliment, and they
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Speaker 6: could compliment each other and be successful.
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Speaker 4: But I feel like it's not.
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Speaker 6: Easy to replicate, you know, it's hard to replicate again
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Speaker 6: with the defense being so prolific and taking the ball away,
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Speaker 6: and and with the offense being able to take the
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Speaker 6: care of the ball the way they did last season.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, they almost didn't pun the ball.
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Speaker 6: They running backs took care of the football in an
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Speaker 6: awesome way. Even Josh and A was able to take
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Speaker 6: care of the ball in an awesome way. So I
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Speaker 6: really question how well the Bills we'll be able to
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Speaker 6: replicate it, and especially by playoffs times. And that's one
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Speaker 6: of the biggest beefs I have with some of my
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Speaker 6: friends of Bill's Maffin.
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Speaker 4: I always tell Rob, it's not bad, and it's not
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Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong in agreeing to disagree with each other.
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Speaker 3: Right, Absolutely, it's fine. Absolutely, man.
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Speaker 4: We have Josh Allen and he's I would die on
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Speaker 4: this hill. He's the best quarterback in the league.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 6: I've been on I wrote about it actually years ago
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Speaker 6: when we lost to my homes in the thirteenth seconds,
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Speaker 6: I was like, look, seventeen can do everything that's fifteen
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Speaker 6: is doing for Casey.
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Speaker 4: But I can tell you that I can.
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Speaker 6: Take that guy from Kasa City, put in Josh Allen's
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Speaker 6: place and ask him to run over people and carry
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Speaker 6: the office the way Josh is asking to do in Buffalo.
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Speaker 6: That's why I believe he's the best clutterback in the league.
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Speaker 6: And when I think about best quarterbacks, especially when I
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Speaker 6: grew up watching football and Peyton Manning and Prett Farv.
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Speaker 4: And those those teams.
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Speaker 6: When we think about those teams, and especially older Tom Brady,
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Speaker 6: not young Tom Brady because he was young, yes, but
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Speaker 6: after he became really good, right, we didn't think of
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Speaker 6: those teams because of their running games or because of
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Speaker 6: their strong differences. Everything else was complimentary. The main thing
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Speaker 6: those teams were their quarterbacks, their superstars. And here we
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Speaker 6: are with an MVP quarterback. But I feel like the
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Speaker 6: Bills try to do everything else possible before going to
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Speaker 6: their superstar quarterback. You know, no, let's try to win
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Speaker 6: with difference, Let's try to win with running the ball.
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Speaker 6: Let's try to win playing sound football, well coached.
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Speaker 4: And being very uh, you know, very very.
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Speaker 3: How can everybody everybody?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's.
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Speaker 6: Do everything, you know, win as a team, and when
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Speaker 6: we finally can't, then go, Josh Allen.
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Speaker 3: Be Superman for us.
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Speaker 6: Save us, rescue us. So it's tough, man. Why not
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Speaker 6: feed your superstar early? Why not surround him with weapons?
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Speaker 6: Why not try to impose your superstar first, you know,
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Speaker 6: and then compliment him. You won't need number one run defense,
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Speaker 6: you won't need the difference to help to hold opposing
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Speaker 6: offices to fifteen points per game. You need them to
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Speaker 6: make some place here and there, take them away and
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Speaker 6: give it back to seventeen and let them cook, you know.
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Speaker 6: So that's the biggest beef I have with this way
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Speaker 6: the Bills are building this team. You know, they try
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Speaker 6: to do everything else and then when nothing works, go
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Speaker 6: seventeen save us.
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Speaker 4: And I don't like this kind of approach, you.
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Speaker 5: Know, DT, I know that Fernando is sounding like like
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Speaker 5: a mini me for sure, because you've heard some of
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Speaker 5: these same things for me and DT. I mean when
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Speaker 5: I tell you that it's music to my ears, it's
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Speaker 5: not just because I mean, obviously we.
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Speaker 3: Like listening to you know, people that feel the same
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Speaker 3: that we do.
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Speaker 5: That's how it is with politics or whatever, entertainment, whatever
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Speaker 5: the case may be. DT, you know that you have
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Speaker 5: heard some of the same shit for me that Fernando
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Speaker 5: is saying for years.
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Speaker 3: Now, not just last year, but for years now.
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Speaker 5: I feel like the Bills, this everybody eats is almost
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Speaker 5: a poison, DT, It's almost I just heard a Bills
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Speaker 5: fan that told me that the idea of random be
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Speaker 5: trading for TERR McLaurin.
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Speaker 3: Is it's no. I'm just get that out of your head.
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Speaker 3: He's fine, he can win.
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Speaker 5: We gave DAAs and I'm like, what what are we
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Speaker 5: what kind of conversation that we have? May DT man
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Speaker 5: speak on it, because Fernando is is man. He's talking,
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Speaker 5: He's talking my talk man. I mean, he's got me excited.
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Speaker 1: Well, the argument for everybody eats is kind of contradictory
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Speaker 1: to that point. Yes, we put it on Josh to
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Speaker 1: be superman if it doesn't work, but we're doing all
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Speaker 1: that everybody eats things so we can have more of
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Speaker 1: a well rounded roster, right, That's the goal of this
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Speaker 1: whole whole thing, to have the well rounded roster so
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Speaker 1: Josh doesn't have to do literally everything and that's you know,
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Speaker 1: that's the goal of this. And realistically, if Stefan Diggs
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Speaker 1: was never here, we don't know what the what the
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Speaker 1: turnout would be. If Josh Allen would be as good
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Speaker 1: as he is, I don't think so. I think obviously
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Speaker 1: Diggs helps him become become who he is, of course,
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Speaker 1: but other than him, if fourteen's out of the equation,
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Speaker 1: this everybody eats saying would be the case every year,
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Speaker 1: you know, And that was the one primary dude, the
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Speaker 1: one primary dude we did have and obviously didn't work out,
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Speaker 1: and then we went everybody eats instead.
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Speaker 3: Of Franz for a while. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think the organizational theory here is everybody eats
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Speaker 1: so we can have more of a well rounded roster.
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Speaker 1: We don't have to pay the tops of the tops.
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Speaker 1: We'll pay our quarterback and then we'll pay above average
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Speaker 1: players to round out the rest of the roster to
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Speaker 1: make it to make it so Josh Allen doesn't have
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Speaker 1: to do everything. So that's the goal. And I thought,
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Speaker 1: you know, last year, with that everybody eats mentality, he
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Speaker 1: was pretty relaxed. He wasn't taking as many hits, he
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Speaker 1: wasn't having to be Superman as much as he used
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Speaker 1: to be and they were still able to produce.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I had to shut up.
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Speaker 5: You know that by the time the AFC Championship game
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Speaker 5: rolled around, I had to shut the fuck up and
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Speaker 5: stop talking about everybody eats.
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Speaker 3: And how much I couldn't stand it.
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Speaker 5: Here's my only thing that I'll say back to you, DT,
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Speaker 5: is that from my perspective, yes, everybody eats worked, but
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Speaker 5: kind of to what Fernando had just kind of pointed to,
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Speaker 5: is that, like everybody eats worked last year, in conjunction
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Speaker 5: with the immense ball security that we had, it was
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Speaker 5: a situation where the offense gave up the ball at
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Speaker 5: a historically low rate. I think it was six or
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Speaker 5: eight times in the entire season, a seventeen game season,
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Speaker 5: with a ball that is oblong, DT, what if I
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Speaker 5: told you throughout the offseason was that I don't think
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Speaker 5: that that's replicated. I don't think that it's something that
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Speaker 5: you can replicate. I don't think that it's a formula.
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Speaker 5: You can't say we're only going to turn the ball
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Speaker 5: over another eight times in twenty twenty five. I don't
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Speaker 5: think that that's something that you can repeat. So because
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Speaker 5: of that, it kind of scares me, and that's why
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Speaker 5: I was talking to Fernando about it, because it kind
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Speaker 5: of scares me DT into thinking that listen, our bills mafia,
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Speaker 5: are we blinded by the everybody eats to the point
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Speaker 5: where we're we're negating the fact that our defense was
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Speaker 5: garbage last year? I mean, well, whatever relatively garbage for
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Speaker 5: a McDermott defense. It wasn't top ten. We could not
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Speaker 5: get off the field on third downs at all throughout
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Speaker 5: the entire season, including the playoffs. And then in addition
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Speaker 5: to that, the defense was taking the ball away. So
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Speaker 5: everything kind of lined up for everybody eats to kind
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Speaker 5: of shine and to look as if it's almost like
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Speaker 5: lipstick on a pig.
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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?
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Speaker 5: Josh Allen had some of his lowest output totals, his yardage,
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Speaker 5: all of those types of things were down. I'm not
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Speaker 5: saying that he has to put on the cape every time, DT.
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Speaker 5: What I'm trying to say is that I think that
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Speaker 5: the turnover margin and the way that it went last
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Speaker 5: year is kind of glossing over the fact that, listen,
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Speaker 5: everybody eats worked, but it worked because of the fact
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Speaker 5: that we had a lot of other things go our
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Speaker 5: way that I don't know if I can guarantee that
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Speaker 5: they're going to go our way again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean the turnovers are all on defense.
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Speaker 1: We didn't turn the ball over on offense, right, But
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Speaker 1: that's a part in football though.
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Speaker 3: That's true.
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Speaker 1: You're getting the ball, you're getting the ball with a
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Speaker 1: short field, and you know, I understand that. But then, okay, defense,
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Speaker 1: let's us down and everybody eats. What did they do
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Speaker 1: this year? Invest pretty much the entire draft end of
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Speaker 1: the defense to maintain this philosophy?
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Speaker 3: Right? They did? They did d T even too.
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Speaker 6: When we talk about everybody is working in the last
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Speaker 6: year's offense working, I really, when I really look at
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Speaker 6: it and closely, I think it worked for an extent,
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Speaker 6: you know, because let's be honest. And even when Brenda
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Speaker 6: Bean said before training camp when he was mad that
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Speaker 6: people talking about more wide receiver and stuff, and he
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Speaker 6: mentioned regular season rankings, and man, I can't care less
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Speaker 6: about regular season rankings, you know, because our number one
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Speaker 6: defense years ago we played like trash against because the
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Speaker 6: City Chiefs in the and allowed.
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Speaker 4: The thirteen seconds to happen.
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Speaker 6: So that was the number one ranking difference in the league,
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Speaker 6: and they played like the worst difference ever.
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Speaker 3: I mean, because right, right, so, I.
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Speaker 6: Don't care if our offense was, oh, number one run
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Speaker 6: during the regular season and score number one points per
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Speaker 6: game in the regular season, because we know the Bills
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Speaker 6: are awesome in the regular season. And I always tell
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Speaker 6: people like, I'm not a hater. I'm not a McDermot hater. No,
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Speaker 6: I love him, but it's so unfortunately to see him
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Speaker 6: doing so well in regular season and so bad in postseason.
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Speaker 4: You know that it's tough, man.
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Speaker 6: It makes us crazy because the same reason we are
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Speaker 6: good in the regular season, sometimes we are bad in
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Speaker 6: the postseason. And with the offense, the everybody eats and
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Speaker 6: and stuff. I think it was awesome for us as
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Speaker 6: Bills fans, to finally be able to have a ground
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Speaker 6: game again, to be able to watch our offensive line
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Speaker 6: be nasty and block well and open gaps for Cook,
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Speaker 6: for Ray Davies, for Tie, everybody playing well running the ball.
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Speaker 4: Having that run game to support Josh was great for
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Speaker 4: all of us. But look at this.
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Speaker 6: The main two main games of the postseason last year
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Speaker 6: against the Ravens, we started really strong, and it seems
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Speaker 6: we caught them a little bit off guard running the ball.
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Speaker 6: I think they didn't expect us to try to ground
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Speaker 6: and pound against them. They were the best run dee
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Speaker 6: in the league and so they maybe they maybe thought
17:24
Speaker 6: the Bills would try to air it out be different
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Speaker 6: than they play the run game. Entire first half took
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Speaker 6: care of the football right, and we were able to
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Speaker 6: build that lead. But after they have we started, they
17:37
Speaker 6: figured it out and they started to stop that run
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Speaker 6: gaming and they really dare us to beat us throwing
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Speaker 6: the ball. And then Josh didn't have enough weapons to
17:46
Speaker 6: do and we can see Josh struggling sometimes because he
17:51
Speaker 6: doesn't have the separators, he doesn't have people catching passes.
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Speaker 6: It doesn't have enough in the air game. Maybe even
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Speaker 6: in the game plan and OI do in training camp.
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Speaker 6: Now you only can allow or allow kids your time
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Speaker 6: to build the playbook to extend. You feel dedicate too
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Speaker 6: much time to the run game. You won't dedicate a
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Speaker 6: lot of time to the passing game. And so I
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Speaker 6: feel like the last two seasons we had opportunities to
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Speaker 6: win the game with the and the ball was like
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Speaker 6: two minutes left.
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Speaker 4: Or or Josh Josh Allen with the ball.
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Speaker 5: You know, and Green pass, Green passes for then Barrii
18:34
Speaker 5: Cooper with the game on the line.
18:37
Speaker 6: Even James Cook is on the sideline, Cookies on the
18:41
Speaker 6: sideline because he's not playing two minutes offense for us, right,
18:44
Speaker 6: So our second best player in the offense is sidelined.
18:48
Speaker 6: You know, Josh is almost by himself, like he doesn't
18:52
Speaker 6: have his second best player in the offense alongside him,
18:55
Speaker 6: and he needs to pass because you can't run the
18:58
Speaker 6: ball anymore.
18:58
Speaker 4: The clock is against right right, and he couldn't. They
19:03
Speaker 4: couldn't score.
19:04
Speaker 6: And the other year before, same thing, same thing, until
19:09
Speaker 6: Jones Trill Dalkins over Josh and he missed.
19:12
Speaker 3: Shakir and h d T and I were there.
19:16
Speaker 6: We were there, man, and we saw what Josh could
19:20
Speaker 6: be when he had weapons, when he had digs, when
19:23
Speaker 6: he had Basiley. Disney was hurt, but he was still
19:25
Speaker 6: a good option in the slot. He had, he had digs,
19:29
Speaker 6: he had bees, he had Sanders and Gay. In that
19:32
Speaker 6: thirteen seconds game and that game with two minutes left,
19:35
Speaker 6: he led two game winning, two possible game winning drives
19:39
Speaker 6: inside the two minute warning, man, So he had when
19:44
Speaker 6: we needed that that offense to score, they scored.
19:46
Speaker 4: Why because stable was nuts, and he was like, man,
19:50
Speaker 4: I had Josh Allen.
19:52
Speaker 6: If I need to throw the ball eighteen consecutive times
19:55
Speaker 6: like he did against.
19:56
Speaker 3: The skill that he'll do.
19:59
Speaker 6: He could open the run game, maybe with the passing
20:02
Speaker 6: game and not the other way around. Oh but that
20:05
Speaker 6: team didn't run the ball.
20:06
Speaker 4: Well yeah, that team didn't care.
20:08
Speaker 3: Who cares? Who cares?
20:10
Speaker 6: But that team didn't have Aaron Cromer, they didn't have
20:13
Speaker 6: James Cook right right, And it was possible to improve
20:17
Speaker 6: that run game without losing that arrow power. And now
20:22
Speaker 6: I feel like the offense transitioned from an air.
20:26
Speaker 4: A powerful air attack, to a ground and pound offense.
20:30
Speaker 6: You know, And when we need to play the biggest
20:34
Speaker 6: team is the best teams, not not regular season, not
20:38
Speaker 6: playoffs against these Steelers with Rudolph atterback, no Ravens and
20:43
Speaker 6: Lamar all right, Lamart?
20:44
Speaker 4: Did we know Lamar isn't the same in the playoffs.
20:46
Speaker 6: But when he started to play decently and take care
20:49
Speaker 6: of the ball, they almost came.
20:51
Speaker 3: Back, right yeah.
20:52
Speaker 4: And it's because the city, those are the guys, those
20:54
Speaker 4: are the teams, even the Bengals.
20:56
Speaker 6: If the Bengals get there, we know it won't be
20:59
Speaker 6: easy with with Borrow.
21:01
Speaker 4: And they are his weapons, right.
21:04
Speaker 1: But they didn't they didn't get there.
21:07
Speaker 3: Because of what when they got to the super Bowl though, Oh.
21:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they didn't get there last year. They didn't
21:12
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They with the continue all right, they
21:16
Speaker 1: don't have.
21:17
Speaker 4: A balanced roster like we have, but maybe they have
21:20
Speaker 4: more star power.
21:21
Speaker 6: And then the injuries also are problems. But look at this,
21:26
Speaker 6: this stat that I'm writing actually a season preval and
21:29
Speaker 6: this is a step that I found when I was
21:32
Speaker 6: writing this season preval abusing twenty twenty, the best to
21:38
Speaker 6: run ratio was sixty three percent in favor of passing
21:41
Speaker 6: the ball with.
21:42
Speaker 3: Davie right AaB he was my man the office, the.
21:45
Speaker 6: Office who had two scoring game winning drives and lost
21:49
Speaker 6: in the thirteen seconds, right, Josh Allen.
21:51
Speaker 4: In my opinion, that was the best version of Josh Allen.
21:54
Speaker 6: I don't care if you throw one plus interception and
21:57
Speaker 6: scored three plus touchdowns.
21:59
Speaker 4: I'd rather the more prolific guy.
22:01
Speaker 5: I personally agree that was the best Josh Allen we've
22:03
Speaker 5: ever had. I agree, even better than last year's Everybody
22:06
Speaker 5: Eats MVP last that season, that thirteen second year was
22:11
Speaker 5: the best Josh Allen, I agree.
22:13
Speaker 6: So twenty twenty sixty percent passing in the past to
22:17
Speaker 6: run Rachel twenty twenty four last year fifty one percent.
22:22
Speaker 6: Well more balanced, running the ball well, winning easily some
22:26
Speaker 6: games in regular season.
22:27
Speaker 4: Great, all right. Now, the problem in the last two
22:31
Speaker 4: playoffs against Kansas City in the.
22:33
Speaker 6: Fourth quarter, when maybe the run game isn't working anymore,
22:37
Speaker 6: when maybe their offense has been too prolific and our
22:41
Speaker 6: defense is man. We're talking offense, but the biggest problem
22:44
Speaker 6: has been the difference. So when the defence is let
22:49
Speaker 6: is let us down. Letting us down in the against
22:52
Speaker 6: Kansas City in the fourth quarter, fourth quarter against Cassas
22:54
Speaker 6: City Chiefs, last two playoff losses, sixty eight percent passes
23:00
Speaker 6: versus run.
23:01
Speaker 4: Pastor run Rachel.
23:02
Speaker 6: All right, So we are building an offense that when
23:07
Speaker 6: it matters the most, we won't be able to use it.
23:11
Speaker 6: Right to throw the ball, and we have the best
23:14
Speaker 6: quarter back in the league, but we are letting him
23:17
Speaker 6: down without giving him true weapons.
23:19
Speaker 4: And maybe this last season, I think it's true.
23:22
Speaker 6: The other season, Digs unfortunately dropped that big long past.
23:27
Speaker 3: We've talked about it.
23:30
Speaker 6: Okay, he needs to make that catch because he was
23:33
Speaker 6: paid for it.
23:34
Speaker 4: He's the number one.
23:37
Speaker 6: When you add that number one guy, you add him
23:39
Speaker 6: to make this kind of place right, just like he
23:42
Speaker 6: used it to do for for for my homes, or
23:45
Speaker 6: or even Kelsey does for him.
23:47
Speaker 5: I understand, I understand he dropped it. I understand we've
23:50
Speaker 5: never hit from that here.
23:53
Speaker 6: I really believe we don't have only one right way
23:56
Speaker 6: to win games, one right way to build an offense.
23:59
Speaker 2: Right.
23:59
Speaker 6: It can work throwing more the ball, it can work
24:02
Speaker 6: being a ground and pound, it can go both ways,
24:05
Speaker 6: or defense being better certainly helps and solves a lot
24:09
Speaker 6: of problems. But having Josh s Allen, if I when
24:13
Speaker 6: I was younger, I had Peto Manning, I had prime
24:16
Speaker 6: Tom Brady, if I had prime Aaron Rodgers, I wouldn't
24:20
Speaker 6: buy a ground and pound office to take.
24:25
Speaker 4: To take the burden away from my star butterback.
24:28
Speaker 6: No, I would make him the focal point, and I
24:31
Speaker 6: would trust him more.
24:32
Speaker 5: You know, DT, it sounds like you're kind of rounding
24:37
Speaker 5: around on everybody eats a little bit, and that's fine.
24:40
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want us. I've always said that,
24:41
Speaker 5: I don't want us to be an echo chamber. I
24:43
Speaker 5: don't want us to always agree. It makes for better
24:45
Speaker 5: shows and truly our Bills fandom, I don't you know,
24:48
Speaker 5: I don't want to always align. I want us I
24:50
Speaker 5: love different opinions. How do you feel then, what is
24:54
Speaker 5: your confidence? I guess so basically, as we look at
24:57
Speaker 5: the Bills offense twenty twenty five, what would be done?
25:00
Speaker 5: If you want to look at it, it's two things. Obviously,
25:03
Speaker 5: quarterbacks the same, running back room is the same. Tight
25:07
Speaker 5: ends are the same.
25:08
Speaker 3: We have.
25:09
Speaker 5: The offensive line is literally as long as they can
25:11
Speaker 5: still stay healthy, knock on wood.
25:13
Speaker 3: They're the same, from left.
25:14
Speaker 5: Left tackle from Dion all the way to right tackle
25:17
Speaker 5: Spencer Brown.
25:18
Speaker 3: Every everything is the same. What are the two things
25:20
Speaker 3: we've done different?
25:21
Speaker 5: We've traded out Mac Collins and Amari Cooper for Josh
25:25
Speaker 5: Palmer and Elijah Moore. So with those just those basic
25:29
Speaker 5: two changes, are you convinced DT that that everybody eats
25:35
Speaker 5: has an opportunity to be successful again? Because Fernando just
25:37
Speaker 5: talked about it, You're right. There's more than one way
25:39
Speaker 5: to skin a cat, and there's more than one way
25:42
Speaker 5: to win. I think to Fernando's point is that in
25:44
Speaker 5: the playoffs, when it's nut cut in time.
25:48
Speaker 3: Having a run centric offense. It I don't know, it just.
25:52
Speaker 5: Can limit you and I and I've got some I've
25:54
Speaker 5: got some.
25:55
Speaker 3: Proof on that a little bit later.
25:56
Speaker 5: But I just wanted your your opinion because it sounds
25:58
Speaker 5: like you're starting to round into the four well when
26:01
Speaker 5: everybody eats a little bit, and that's fine with me.
26:03
Speaker 3: We can disagree.
26:04
Speaker 1: I'm I'm moderate on everybody eats. I'd say, like, obviously
26:09
Speaker 1: it worked last year, or a version of it did,
26:12
Speaker 1: or the defense helped the turnovers to make it look better.
26:15
Speaker 1: What whatever the case is, it worked last year, right
26:18
Speaker 1: with kind of the them O, it's obvious they're bought
26:21
Speaker 1: into trying to do it again. That's that's the pilot's
26:24
Speaker 1: that's the table they would have. So you know, I
26:27
Speaker 1: don't necessarily like, I'm not all I would. I agree
26:31
Speaker 1: that we should give the best player in the world
26:33
Speaker 1: weapons to be to be the best, to be great.
26:36
Speaker 1: But I also agree that we have to have a
26:39
Speaker 1: well balanced roster. And they don't think they can do
26:41
Speaker 1: it from the top down because they're already paying them.
26:43
Speaker 1: They they also paying We signed a wide receiver this year,
26:46
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir to four years, sixty million. That's not top receiver,
26:50
Speaker 1: not top receiver in the league, but it's But it's
26:53
Speaker 1: twenty twenty million a year for a receiver, you know.
26:56
Speaker 1: So we're not just giving him a new cast every year.
27:00
Speaker 1: We're keeping what he trusts and then trying to build
27:02
Speaker 1: onto it. This year, there wasn't a ton of opportunity.
27:05
Speaker 1: Free agency wasn't a ton of opportunity. Draft wise. We
27:08
Speaker 1: don't can't say that yet because some guys in the
27:11
Speaker 1: draft might be you know, killers. But so, what's the
27:15
Speaker 1: only alternative to do this is is making a trade?
27:18
Speaker 1: Right if we wanted to get a sincere weapon in
27:21
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, we're not getting around anymore. This
27:23
Speaker 1: isn't everybody eats. We're going with a big dog at
27:25
Speaker 1: wide receiver, we'd have to trade him in. And then
27:28
Speaker 1: what is that receiver to trade in? Up until yesterday,
27:31
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin came around. Terry mclaurin's thirty years old and
27:34
Speaker 1: wants thirty his age and millions of dollars, right, So
27:38
Speaker 1: it's I'm not all bought in. I think we should
27:42
Speaker 1: give the best player in the world the weapons, but
27:44
Speaker 1: I just the reality of the NFL in the situation.
27:48
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of living in the middle the
27:49
Speaker 1: best way they can, and if an opportunity came up
27:52
Speaker 1: to get a weapon, they would sincerely look into that
27:55
Speaker 1: and do that.
27:55
Speaker 3: So we have.
27:56
Speaker 5: Agreed that that Brandon Bean was probably in on DK right,
28:00
Speaker 5: and I have agreed we're aligned on that, right.
28:01
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, cool?
28:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would say I'm not fully in, but
28:07
Speaker 1: I'm definitely more moderate the fact of, like I if
28:10
Speaker 1: it works again this year, you know we we can't
28:13
Speaker 1: have this episode next year. We can't have this episode
28:15
Speaker 1: of well, this happened. This happened, and it's not good.
28:18
Speaker 1: So a black man was free, but I don't think
28:20
Speaker 1: there was I don't think there's been massive opportunity to
28:24
Speaker 1: get him these weapons where it would change from everybody
28:26
Speaker 1: eats to an actual high power, high weapon offense. There.
28:29
Speaker 1: He just hasn't been the opportunities to get them.
28:33
Speaker 5: Hands up. If it works again, then hands up. A
28:35
Speaker 5: black man with his hands up, I mean, what else
28:37
Speaker 5: do you want? I mean, don't shoot, I mean hands up.
28:39
Speaker 5: If it works again, you won't hear anything out of
28:42
Speaker 5: me about everybody eats. The reason that I'm still concerned
28:46
Speaker 5: about it like I talked about, was because of the turnovers.
28:48
Speaker 5: And then it was another thing that a part of
28:50
Speaker 5: the other side of the football that I heard this week,
28:53
Speaker 5: and I had never heard it put this way, And
28:56
Speaker 5: I want you to talk about it, Fernando, because it
28:57
Speaker 5: might even lead into your piece that you working on
29:00
Speaker 5: for the twenty twenty five Buffalo Bill's Preview on Buffalo Rumblings.
29:04
Speaker 5: But real quick I heard I heard Ben Solac come
29:08
Speaker 5: on DT. I heard him come on WGR this week,
29:11
Speaker 5: and Fernando, he came on and it was just a quick,
29:14
Speaker 5: short sex segment. He came on with Jeremy and Joe
29:18
Speaker 5: in the morning show and he was at training company.
29:20
Speaker 5: He came down and he sat down with those guys
29:22
Speaker 5: and it was right before the special teams coordinator came
29:24
Speaker 5: on for an interview, and Ben Solac described this in
29:29
Speaker 5: a way that I had never heard before, and I
29:32
Speaker 5: think that there was a way that I would have
29:33
Speaker 5: wished that I could articulate before years ago. He said, DT,
29:38
Speaker 5: I promise you, you have got to go back on the
29:41
Speaker 5: Odyssey app and listen to the WGR interview. It was
29:44
Speaker 5: right before the special team's coordinator came on and he
29:46
Speaker 5: said Listen, Sean McDermott wants to beat you with team.
29:52
Speaker 5: He wants to beat you with everybody rallying to the football,
29:55
Speaker 5: everybody doing well at tackling, everybody doing their job and
29:59
Speaker 5: making sure that they're they're doing the right things, and
30:01
Speaker 5: diff and things like that.
30:02
Speaker 3: He said.
30:02
Speaker 5: Steve Magnolo is not that type of coordinator. He said,
30:06
Speaker 5: Steve Magnolo is trying to get you in a situation
30:08
Speaker 5: where you're on a third and long, or you're on
30:11
Speaker 5: a third and unmanageable, and then you're gonna do something
30:16
Speaker 5: that I know you're going to do, and that is
30:18
Speaker 5: when I can throw a curveball.
30:20
Speaker 3: That's when I can come after you.
30:21
Speaker 5: And because I've studied your tendencies, I've studied the things
30:24
Speaker 5: that you do well, the studies the things that you
30:27
Speaker 5: do in those situations, and he said, Sean McDermott is
30:30
Speaker 5: not that type of defensive coach. And I had never
30:32
Speaker 5: heard it put that way. He said, Sean McDermott is
30:35
Speaker 5: not throwing curveballs, he's not throwing sliders. He said, he's
30:38
Speaker 5: going to He's gonna bring what he brings and in
30:41
Speaker 5: the regular season it looks great, he said, but in
30:43
Speaker 5: the playoffs, after those teams have scouted you, he said
30:46
Speaker 5: that you become a little bit predictable and because of that,
30:49
Speaker 5: you can kind of selt yourself up to be susceptible
30:51
Speaker 5: to you know, that last play, what was that last
30:54
Speaker 5: play again? You know, the conk drop was what he
30:56
Speaker 5: sent two free rushers. We never saw him coming, they said,
30:59
Speaker 5: miscommunication between cybo and you know what I mean. And
31:02
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it's Josh Allen rolling out of
31:04
Speaker 5: the pocket and again he is Superman.
31:06
Speaker 3: Nobody, no other quarterback gets that throw off to.
31:08
Speaker 5: Kincaid and we'll give him credit for that, and Kinkaid
31:11
Speaker 5: drops the ball and it was a hard catch. YadA, YadA, YadA.
31:13
Speaker 5: The point being is that throughout Sean mcdermot's tenure, he
31:18
Speaker 5: is who he is. Run, stop the run, let's not
31:22
Speaker 5: give up explosive plays, ben, but don't break. And then
31:25
Speaker 5: it works in the regular season, and when you're against
31:27
Speaker 5: the elite of the elite, Fernando, sometimes that shit is
31:30
Speaker 5: not good enough and you've got to have a changeup.
31:32
Speaker 5: You've got to have a curve ball. I don't know
31:36
Speaker 5: if our coach has that. On the defensive side of
31:38
Speaker 5: the ball because he is so ingrained in what he does.
31:41
Speaker 5: I don't think I don't think he looks at the
31:43
Speaker 5: game the same way that a Steve Spagnola does. And
31:46
Speaker 5: I had never heard any I promise DT listen to
31:49
Speaker 5: it man. Sometime this weekend. I had never heard anybody
31:52
Speaker 5: laid out that way, and I was like, my eyes
31:54
Speaker 5: were were wide open.
31:55
Speaker 3: I was like, holy crap. Yeah, he's he describing it perfect.
32:00
Speaker 1: And that's quite you know, it's an epiphany. I agree
32:03
Speaker 1: like hearing it like that, You know, the the bend
32:06
Speaker 1: don't break nerds, and you know, because game plans are
32:09
Speaker 1: so like back and forth, and then really the playoffs
32:12
Speaker 1: is you know, it's not like we're we're game playing
32:15
Speaker 1: like a specific uh you know, play sheet, and I
32:20
Speaker 1: think the playoffs are a little more match yep playoffs
32:23
Speaker 1: are a little more like, this is our squad, this
32:25
Speaker 1: is how, this is what we do. We've done it
32:26
Speaker 1: all year, We're gonna go out and do it. And
32:28
Speaker 1: when teams do that to us what we talked about
32:30
Speaker 1: last week of having a horrible playoff defense, and you
32:34
Speaker 1: know that that makes sense hearing it like that, because yeah,
32:36
Speaker 1: there are no curve balls. It works in the regular season,
32:38
Speaker 1: the bend don't break and we're in the right places
32:40
Speaker 1: at the right time. But then when teams are there
32:43
Speaker 1: themselves and just come out and it's doggy dogs, strap
32:45
Speaker 1: the pads up and let's play, we get pushed around defensively.
32:48
Speaker 1: So yeah, that makes a lot of.
32:50
Speaker 3: Sense, Fernando.
32:52
Speaker 5: I I don't know if you listen to it or
32:54
Speaker 5: not have heard it. I mean, it's kind of obscure,
32:57
Speaker 5: but it was right in the morning show, right before
33:00
Speaker 5: the special teams coordinator came on. He ben Sole like said,
33:04
Speaker 5: McDermott will just play what he plays. He's nothing, there's
33:06
Speaker 5: nothing exotic about what he does on defense. And then
33:10
Speaker 5: you know the inverse of that is that Spagnolo is looking.
33:13
Speaker 5: He is setting you up for those different situations where
33:16
Speaker 5: he can attack you because he has schemed you up,
33:19
Speaker 5: he has watched what you do in your tendencies. It
33:21
Speaker 5: blew my mind for Nando to here kind of laid
33:24
Speaker 5: out that way. It blew my mind because that's McDermot like,
33:26
Speaker 5: that's what he is to me.
33:28
Speaker 6: Yeah, Rob, And and when playoff arrives, we always can
33:32
Speaker 6: see no matter the defensive rankings during regular season, when
33:36
Speaker 6: it's Mahomes against our defense and Josh against Specs and
33:41
Speaker 6: their defense.
33:42
Speaker 4: It's always tougher for Josh. Yeah, and just because of
33:45
Speaker 4: Josh's worse than Mahomes.
33:47
Speaker 6: But it seems like Mahomes is doing the same team
33:50
Speaker 6: given mcderalds has no answer.
33:52
Speaker 1: I agree, it looks a lot easier for fifteen than seventeen.
33:55
Speaker 6: And he didn't have an answer with Lesli Fraser he
33:59
Speaker 6: does and having an answer with Babbage. Now you know
34:02
Speaker 6: the coordinature coordinators changes, but but it's always the same
34:06
Speaker 6: and Specs always it's.
34:08
Speaker 4: Josh can produce, and Josh already produced great games against City.
34:12
Speaker 6: But when the game is on the line, it's not
34:15
Speaker 6: like we are safe because Josh will dominate.
34:18
Speaker 4: Specs always is dangerous.
34:20
Speaker 6: It's you know, that turd down he is always near
34:24
Speaker 6: forcing a mistake by our offense and with a time
34:27
Speaker 6: at well time and blitz or something like that. And
34:30
Speaker 6: that's where whether I really question not just the difference,
34:34
Speaker 6: but where the offense really worked less season, because because
34:38
Speaker 6: again it was great in the regular season, but let's
34:41
Speaker 6: look at the main games against the Ravens. Can we
34:44
Speaker 6: say our offense played well. I think they played well
34:46
Speaker 6: in the first half, if we run the ball, take
34:50
Speaker 6: care of the ball. Lamar made mistakes, their offense made
34:53
Speaker 6: mistakes within it.
34:54
Speaker 5: Wet, you could saynand all the way from Brazil. We
34:56
Speaker 5: got lucky to win that game. I get roasted on
34:59
Speaker 5: Twitter half we were lucky to come away.
35:02
Speaker 3: They went to the half.
35:03
Speaker 4: I tweeted. I was like, okay, we went to the
35:06
Speaker 4: seventeen three lead.
35:07
Speaker 6: I think, if I'm not mistaken, it was a big lead,
35:10
Speaker 6: and I was like, Okay, now it's time to release
35:12
Speaker 6: Superman and score in the first drive, score another touchdown,
35:16
Speaker 6: make it a twenty point lead or something, because they
35:20
Speaker 6: are coming back in this game. And no, we kept
35:23
Speaker 6: trying to run the ball and they stopped us, and
35:25
Speaker 6: they almost came back in that game, right and against
35:29
Speaker 6: Kansas City, again, it wasn't a great game by Josh.
35:32
Speaker 4: We could run the ball a little, we struggled in
35:35
Speaker 4: short yardage.
35:37
Speaker 6: But when we look at even if you look at
35:40
Speaker 6: josh performances the tape and the stats less playoffs, they
35:46
Speaker 6: weren't the best performances by Josh. Now look at his
35:50
Speaker 6: playoff performances in the thirteen Seconds game, in the perfect
35:54
Speaker 6: Game against the Patrios. The Patriots had the number one
35:56
Speaker 6: defense as well that year, right, and we had a
36:00
Speaker 6: perfect game against them.
36:02
Speaker 4: Josh was unstoppable in those games, you know, That's.
36:04
Speaker 3: When Nichol started. It was right before that game, that's
36:07
Speaker 3: when we started.
36:09
Speaker 4: So as good as Josh is, he can do it alone.
36:12
Speaker 4: He needs the weapons to help him.
36:14
Speaker 6: And on paper, what they are trying to do makes
36:17
Speaker 6: sense because they are trying to have a particular player
36:20
Speaker 6: for each role.
36:21
Speaker 3: So they have the.
36:24
Speaker 6: Contested catch guy in Colum and they have the yard
36:27
Speaker 6: after catch guy in check.
36:28
Speaker 3: Year.
36:29
Speaker 4: Now they tried Palmer is the bet. I don't like
36:33
Speaker 4: this bat at all, but he's the best to be
36:35
Speaker 4: the separatory the guy couldn't beat.
36:38
Speaker 6: He couldn't be Johnston, he could he looking king job
36:43
Speaker 6: like in the training camp, you know.
36:45
Speaker 5: So right, But it sometimes helps with that too. He
36:49
Speaker 5: was the first round pick, so sometimes it's politics as well.
36:52
Speaker 5: You know, the GM one, the guy out there you
36:55
Speaker 5: know for.
36:55
Speaker 6: Sure for sure, but we should look at his numbers
36:58
Speaker 6: and and his tape, like he had one great season
37:01
Speaker 6: and he never could take advantage of that and become
37:04
Speaker 6: the guy.
37:04
Speaker 4: There is a reason he was a VA label for us.
37:06
Speaker 3: You know absolutely, no, No, you're right, you're right for sure.
37:13
Speaker 6: Maybe sometimes it doesn't work with from a quarterback. And
37:16
Speaker 6: now he's we can see him training camp. He's alongside
37:19
Speaker 6: Josh all the time, next to Josh, talking routes and
37:22
Speaker 6: body language and stuff.
37:24
Speaker 4: I hope it works with Josh, and if it works,
37:27
Speaker 4: we'll have a separator, a contested catch guy. D after
37:33
Speaker 4: the catch guy. You know, we have the guys to
37:36
Speaker 4: do their jobs.
37:37
Speaker 6: But last year when we needed that, we didn't have
37:39
Speaker 6: those guys when we needed the best hands in the
37:42
Speaker 6: draft to make a catch, a tough catch, yes, but
37:44
Speaker 6: a catch to keep us alive.
37:46
Speaker 4: We lost the game.
37:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, you're right. You're right.
37:51
Speaker 6: And I look back and I see on offense with
37:54
Speaker 6: a two number one indigs who could beat anybody out
37:59
Speaker 6: of the line. They couldn't press him, they couldn't do
38:01
Speaker 6: anything him, and when they doubled him or sent coverage
38:05
Speaker 6: in his direction, we would have not a four touchdown
38:12
Speaker 6: game in the big playoff game. Guy, I'm not the
38:15
Speaker 6: biggest game David S fan, but he scored it right.
38:21
Speaker 6: And you have Cole Beasley who could beat anybody one
38:24
Speaker 6: on one in his lot. And then convert the first down.
38:27
Speaker 6: So I mean, rather they would rather give Supperman the
38:34
Speaker 6: weapons to work with, you know, don't challenge him. They
38:37
Speaker 6: are making things tougher for Josh the last performances, the
38:41
Speaker 6: last Josh performances, we can see him trying to do stuff,
38:45
Speaker 6: but it's tough, you know.
38:51
Speaker 3: With the game on the line. And people tried to
38:54
Speaker 3: tell me that he tripped and got tripped up and
38:57
Speaker 3: if he had not, he was out.
38:59
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39:42
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39:47
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39:52
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39:54
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39:56
Speaker 5: So again, I always want to make sure that that's
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40:00
Speaker 3: We appreciate you guys. Locking in.
40:02
Speaker 5: The season is almost here, It's on the horizon, it's
40:05
Speaker 5: almost there. Preseason starts next week. I know we got
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Speaker 5: the kids Day game and stuff like that against the
40:09
Speaker 5: Giants next week.
40:10
Speaker 3: DT. I did not bring Fernando on here to try
40:14
Speaker 3: to boast my stats or boast my viewpoints.
40:20
Speaker 5: I brought him over here because I thought that he
40:22
Speaker 5: was logical and what he felt about the bills. And
40:25
Speaker 5: I meet so many people and I really should have
40:28
Speaker 5: named the episode poison because but I didn't want to
40:31
Speaker 5: be that overt.
40:32
Speaker 3: I want to just ask you.
40:33
Speaker 5: This because I literally argued with somebody today on Twitter
40:36
Speaker 5: while is at work. I was on a break and
40:38
Speaker 5: I argue with this dude about Terry McLaurin. Like, like
40:41
Speaker 5: I said, I'm not going to rehash it. He just
40:43
Speaker 5: said that we don't need anybody else, and I just
40:45
Speaker 5: I think that that's so idiotic to even say from
40:47
Speaker 5: a Buffalo Phill's Buffalo Bill's standpoint, because again, I think
40:53
Speaker 5: that everybody eats is now, especially now with the MVP.
40:56
Speaker 5: Now you can't tell Bill's mafia shit because now they're like, man,
40:59
Speaker 5: he wanted and he doesn't need it, and why do
41:02
Speaker 5: you want your quarterback to not need anyone? And that
41:05
Speaker 5: is that That's the only last hang up that I have.
41:08
Speaker 5: And I know I don't know if you share that opinion,
41:10
Speaker 5: but I wanted your opinion on it. Do you think no,
41:14
Speaker 5: let me set it up. Do you think do you
41:16
Speaker 5: think Brandon Bean is willing? Because we agreed that he
41:19
Speaker 5: was probably you know, on DK and the price might
41:21
Speaker 5: have been too high or whatever whatever whatever, he went
41:23
Speaker 5: to Pittsburgh. Do you think that when the when the
41:27
Speaker 5: opportunity presents itself the next time it does, whether it's
41:29
Speaker 5: you know, in the in the twenty twenty five offseason
41:31
Speaker 5: and beyond, do you think that Brandon Bean is going
41:34
Speaker 5: to be interested in redoing the digs now? Obviously he
41:39
Speaker 5: doesn't have to be a digs trade one for one,
41:41
Speaker 5: Diggs was an emerging star, wasn't quite a star yet,
41:44
Speaker 5: but he was a He was a one A.
41:46
Speaker 3: You know, he was right behind theland, but he really
41:48
Speaker 3: he was more.
41:48
Speaker 5: Athletic and YadA YadA, YadA, and we could tell that
41:51
Speaker 5: he was ready to pop off after that means Minnesota miracle.
41:55
Speaker 5: Do you think that Brandon Bean is willing to try
41:58
Speaker 5: a digs trade again or do you think he's scared
42:01
Speaker 5: off by the ending of it and he'll never pay
42:04
Speaker 5: a receiver thirty million dollars because thirty million dollars, it
42:06
Speaker 5: seems like, is what it's going to cost for a
42:09
Speaker 5: premier receiver now that the market has changed.
42:11
Speaker 1: That one A the one guy.
42:12
Speaker 3: Yeah.
42:13
Speaker 1: I short answer, yes, short answer, yes, your arguments here,
42:17
Speaker 1: I think we're pride things with Brandon Bean. Brandon Bean
42:20
Speaker 1: running this running this team, running this business. You know
42:23
Speaker 1: he hears people like, we just got we just set
42:26
Speaker 1: our record. Maybe I was going for wide receivers. We
42:28
Speaker 1: didn't get them, but we scored the most in franchise history.
42:31
Speaker 1: I go on the sports talk, everyone's saying that we
42:35
Speaker 1: need ride receivers. So I think it's more of a
42:36
Speaker 1: pride thing on his side as opposed to him actually
42:40
Speaker 1: not interested in going out and getting weapons. For Josh Allen,
42:43
Speaker 1: I think he is fully committed. If an opportunity arose
42:46
Speaker 1: that made sense for the team, he's pulling the trigger
42:48
Speaker 1: one hundred out of one hundred times. I genuinely believe that.
42:51
Speaker 1: I think the arguments that they say that McDermot and
42:54
Speaker 1: him say aren't necessarily their die hard philosophies. I think
42:58
Speaker 1: it's more a prime thing. This is the team. We're
43:01
Speaker 1: not gonna men. You know, we're not gonna admit like
43:04
Speaker 1: we're wrong because we've had success with it and go
43:06
Speaker 1: from there. And I think our seven to fifty viewers
43:09
Speaker 1: is up because this is playing on the jumbo Tron
43:10
Speaker 1: at the at the Return of the Red and White Shrimage.
43:14
Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, yes, I do think he would
43:18
Speaker 1: go after weapons if the opportunity arose at my point earlier.
43:21
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's been a lot of opportunities.
43:23
Speaker 1: So they're a very prideful bunch. We already know that
43:25
Speaker 1: about Sean McDermott, and I think Brandon Bean's the same way.
43:28
Speaker 1: You know, they kind of came from, you know, the underdogs,
43:31
Speaker 1: and now they're top dogs in the league, and they
43:33
Speaker 1: don't like people talking shit about what they're doing, and
43:36
Speaker 1: what they're doing is working except for getting us to
43:39
Speaker 1: that Lombardy push. Hopefully that's the goal, to get over
43:42
Speaker 1: that hump. And it seems like that's all they talk about.
43:45
Speaker 1: That's all last week, that's all we know Ed Oliver
43:47
Speaker 1: thinks about, and that's great. But I do think, yes,
43:50
Speaker 1: I do think yes, they would pull the trigger. Brandon
43:52
Speaker 1: Bean would pull the trigger and make something happen to
43:55
Speaker 1: get a weapon if the opportunity presented himself.
43:58
Speaker 5: He's so he's not scared off from Giggs and how
44:00
Speaker 5: it ended because he understands that the first three and
44:03
Speaker 5: a half years or two and a half years, excuse me,
44:06
Speaker 5: were remarkable.
44:07
Speaker 1: So okay, there's not forty thousand people at a practice today.
44:11
Speaker 1: If Stefan Diggs never comes to Buffalo.
44:13
Speaker 3: I know that's damn right.
44:14
Speaker 5: I know that's right, okay, as long as as long
44:16
Speaker 5: as he's not scared off of it. Because when I
44:18
Speaker 5: hear Bill's Mafia, like I said, they almost talk as
44:21
Speaker 5: if the MVP validates I think Josh Allen doesn't need help,
44:26
Speaker 5: and I think that you can.
44:27
Speaker 3: Yeah.
44:28
Speaker 1: My argument is the way they talk, the way they
44:30
Speaker 1: talk necessary necessarily, isn't the way they genuinely feel okay?
44:35
Speaker 5: And they drive with Cooper right yea, yeah, because everybody
44:40
Speaker 5: eats wasn't working for Nando.
44:41
Speaker 3: That's why we had two straight losses. And he goes
44:43
Speaker 3: out and hits them.
44:44
Speaker 1: And when they were struggling the year before that, they
44:46
Speaker 1: brought back John Brown and Cole.
44:47
Speaker 3: Beazel damn huge, Okay, cool, so.
44:50
Speaker 1: All right, and then the two A day after he
44:54
Speaker 1: goes on and cusses out w g R, he signs
44:56
Speaker 1: Elijah More.
44:57
Speaker 5: But we already talked about that. We thought he thought
45:00
Speaker 5: that he knew that Elijah was coming, so he was kind.
45:03
Speaker 5: He was kind of talking tongue in cheek or whatever.
45:05
Speaker 5: You're right, it was a pride thing of whatever. He
45:07
Speaker 5: just spent hours and hours and months and months on
45:09
Speaker 5: a draft so he didn't want to feel like he
45:11
Speaker 5: was getting shit on. So that's fine, it is what
45:14
Speaker 5: it is. Listen, as we begin to wrap up tonight,
45:16
Speaker 5: I really appreciate you, Fernando. I wanted to to just
45:20
Speaker 5: thank you again because a lot of times you'll meet people,
45:22
Speaker 5: you'll talk to him on Twitter or whatever, and then
45:25
Speaker 5: you know they're not real or they're carrying on a persona.
45:29
Speaker 3: You're a real person. You listen to my arguments for
45:31
Speaker 3: the James Cook thing.
45:32
Speaker 5: I'll close on that because I know my co host
45:35
Speaker 5: has to bounce out of here, but listen, my only
45:38
Speaker 5: argument was, and you read it in your piece when
45:40
Speaker 5: I did it in the comments section.
45:41
Speaker 3: My only thing about James.
45:43
Speaker 5: Cook, no, he's not a fifteen million dollar back. If
45:45
Speaker 5: that's what he's asking for, then he's getting bad advice.
45:48
Speaker 5: I don't think that his brother Dalvin is telling him
45:51
Speaker 5: to ask for fifteen million, or his agent.
45:53
Speaker 3: My only pushback was it was that we're fighting for
45:58
Speaker 3: a parade this year. Because of that, Let's just keep
46:01
Speaker 3: the vibes pause, Let's keep everybody.
46:03
Speaker 5: There's gotta be a middle ground where I understand he
46:06
Speaker 5: doesn't play even fifty percent of the snaps I understand
46:08
Speaker 5: that he's been kind of a liability and passport. That's
46:10
Speaker 5: why they trust Todd Johnson and Ray Davis in those situations.
46:14
Speaker 5: I agree that he was on the bench. I don't
46:16
Speaker 5: think he should have been on the bench that last
46:18
Speaker 5: drive because he was murdering the Chiefs.
46:20
Speaker 3: He was the only reason that we were.
46:21
Speaker 5: Still in that game besides Josh Allen, because Josh Allen
46:24
Speaker 5: was horrible in that first I just watched that game
46:26
Speaker 5: back the other day.
46:27
Speaker 3: Josh Allen had nerves that first drive through two would
46:31
Speaker 3: be picks that drive.
46:33
Speaker 5: James Cook is the most explosive player on the Buffalo
46:36
Speaker 5: Bill's offense outside of Josh Allen. I just wanted Brandon
46:39
Speaker 5: Bean to do the right thing, quote unquote the right
46:42
Speaker 5: thing by give him a little sweetener, ten eleven million,
46:46
Speaker 5: a bunch of guarantees, and then just keep the vibe strong.
46:50
Speaker 3: Your piece was that we met over it was that
46:53
Speaker 3: do not pay this motherfucker at all. And I understand it.
46:56
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it, I get it. Don't
46:59
Speaker 3: pay him.
47:00
Speaker 5: I just wanted to keep the vibes strong. Are you
47:02
Speaker 5: still in that same position? James Cook does all the
47:04
Speaker 5: right things. He comes to mini camp. He came to
47:06
Speaker 5: training camp. He doesn't give a fuss. He talked about
47:08
Speaker 5: how it was never even a thought for him to
47:10
Speaker 5: hold out or even hold in. Has has any of
47:13
Speaker 5: your position changed on James Cook. As we we close
47:15
Speaker 5: tonight on the twenty twenty five Bills office, because we
47:17
Speaker 5: talked about it, everything's the same, got two different receivers,
47:21
Speaker 5: two receivers out, two receivers in off its line in
47:24
Speaker 5: tech you know, knock on wood, they stay healthy. Everything's
47:26
Speaker 5: the same. James Cook is a beast. Fernando, I did, yeah.
47:30
Speaker 3: You Okay, we giving him a little a little raised
47:33
Speaker 3: or let him just let him play it out.
47:36
Speaker 6: No, absolutely, James Cook right the way he's carrying himself
47:41
Speaker 6: and working and everybody expected something badly from him. But
47:46
Speaker 6: he's out there working for the season looks bigger even so,
47:50
Speaker 6: I hope this can translate or better best protection, maybe
47:54
Speaker 6: to stay more on the.
47:54
Speaker 4: Field, because rob let me tell you one thing.
47:57
Speaker 6: I as a president kid who only watched soccer back
48:01
Speaker 6: in the day in the nineties. Okay, this guy behind
48:04
Speaker 6: you was the guy who made me fell in love
48:07
Speaker 6: with the Bills, right thirty four thirty four running around
48:11
Speaker 6: watching him watching run around people and shake and bake
48:16
Speaker 6: against that guy. That was That's what made me feel
48:20
Speaker 6: in love with the Bills. So, man, I like James Cook.
48:23
Speaker 4: I just need him to really earn and make the
48:28
Speaker 4: money he wants to make, and he doesn't.
48:30
Speaker 6: I believe been already tried to pay him in the
48:33
Speaker 6: same line he paid Bernard Baying for Russo all of
48:38
Speaker 6: those guys would make more money if they tried free
48:41
Speaker 6: agency next year, continuing healthy and producing, right, I believe
48:47
Speaker 6: he tried something with James Cook. But Cook wants big money.
48:51
Speaker 6: He talks people are talking so con Bartlely money now.
48:55
Speaker 6: So to be able to make this kind of money, man,
48:58
Speaker 6: you've gotta be on the field. I gotta see him
49:00
Speaker 6: on two minute drills. I gotta see him when Josh
49:04
Speaker 6: is in trouble. He has Cook to help him, you know.
49:08
Speaker 6: And if he can this season prove he can be
49:11
Speaker 6: on the field more, be a difference maker in the
49:13
Speaker 6: passing game as well.
49:14
Speaker 4: You know, maybe the route would be to pay him
49:17
Speaker 4: and to keep him because.
49:20
Speaker 6: Just like did he said, they are trying to sign
49:23
Speaker 6: different kinds of receivers and pay less for them and
49:28
Speaker 6: maybe find somebody who works out there, right, maybe Coleman
49:31
Speaker 6: can can step up, maybe Palmer can step up. So
49:35
Speaker 6: I'd rather not pay Cook and trade for McLaurin. All right,
49:41
Speaker 6: But that's my personal way of building a roster, building
49:45
Speaker 6: an offense, right, and I'd rather invest in a wide receiver.
49:49
Speaker 4: I think it's more important for Josh, right, But at
49:52
Speaker 4: the end of the day, Rob it's balanced, right.
49:55
Speaker 6: I think they were a great area offense who struggled
49:58
Speaker 6: to run the ball, and just like the said, who cares.
50:00
Speaker 4: But okay, it's always good to be able to run
50:03
Speaker 4: the ball a little and to be able to ground
50:05
Speaker 4: and pound and.
50:06
Speaker 6: Take the the the burden away from Josh sometimes, but
50:11
Speaker 6: when you need to pass, you've got to be able
50:13
Speaker 6: to pass and have the weapons there.
50:15
Speaker 4: And let's hear they didn't.
50:17
Speaker 6: Have all right, King kid struggled, Cooper struggled, people struggled.
50:22
Speaker 3: And they like struggled after his injury.
50:24
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so Now this season, if those guys can,
50:29
Speaker 6: if Elijah Moore can become a thing, if Palmer can
50:33
Speaker 6: be the guy I don't believe he can be, but
50:35
Speaker 6: if he can be, he believes and that's what matters.
50:38
Speaker 4: Right, So if those.
50:42
Speaker 6: Guys can, if King Kid can become the guy we expected,
50:45
Speaker 6: right and he wasn't this guy last season, then the
50:49
Speaker 6: offense will be able to have some balance.
50:50
Speaker 4: They will have this run game.
50:52
Speaker 6: We've seen and it's been good, and we will have
50:54
Speaker 6: the guys to pass the ball, and and if we'll take.
50:57
Speaker 5: Them when when when the when the chips are down,
50:59
Speaker 5: and and and as we close tonight, that's really that's
51:02
Speaker 5: I mean, that's why it was music to my ears,
51:03
Speaker 5: was that, you know, like I don't.
51:05
Speaker 3: I was telling people to it. I don't give a
51:06
Speaker 3: shit about regular season. I don't.
51:08
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't care. I I I want I
51:12
Speaker 5: want them to be at their best when it like
51:14
Speaker 5: when it matters. It matters in January and you know,
51:17
Speaker 5: and going into February, it just matters in the playoffs.
51:19
Speaker 5: And and there's just there's very little that the Buffalo
51:23
Speaker 5: Bill's offense and including the defense, can do this season
51:26
Speaker 5: during the regular season to impress me. I'm not I'm
51:29
Speaker 5: not going to be impressed until the playoffs.
51:31
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, you know, I just feel I just feel
51:35
Speaker 6: it is easier to take a POTENTI are attack and
51:40
Speaker 6: improve that run game against light boxes, you know, with
51:43
Speaker 6: better coaching with Kromer.
51:45
Speaker 4: They both didn't have Chromer.
51:47
Speaker 6: Better offenses, better running back and Cook right, I love Model,
51:52
Speaker 6: but he was nowhere as explosive as Cook, you know.
51:56
Speaker 4: So it was easier to improve that run game having
52:00
Speaker 4: a great area attack done.
52:02
Speaker 6: Now having a great run game a good offensive line
52:05
Speaker 6: to improve the area attack.
52:06
Speaker 4: I hope I'm wrong.
52:07
Speaker 6: I hope the guys can really play really well with
52:11
Speaker 6: the love call on King Kid and the passing offense
52:14
Speaker 6: can get better. And I hope it happens because that's
52:19
Speaker 6: a necessary step, you know, I see two to get
52:22
Speaker 6: back to the super Bowl and this time win one.
52:24
Speaker 3: It's time, right now, It is time. That's that's what
52:28
Speaker 3: it's all about. It is about that parade.
52:30
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53:24
Speaker 3: on this man. Oh man, I oh there you are?
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Speaker 3: You're you're back? Okay? Cool? You couldn't hear couldn't hear
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Speaker 3: you for a second? Did they come to? Did they
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Speaker 3: come to the shop?
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Speaker 5: I think I think I've lost them. I think I've
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Speaker 5: lost them. I think I've lost them. Are you there DT?
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Speaker 5: One more time?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, did they come there? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: BIG's coming, big things coming for Queen City Vintage. It's
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Speaker 1: a good partner to have. I'm excited.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: They were there for almost three hours. They did the
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Speaker 1: whole film. So it's definitely gonna be a the show,
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Speaker 1: one of those you know when the players are getting
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Speaker 1: ready on the field, we're getting ready out here. There's
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Speaker 1: some other big things coming too, so so big stuff
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Speaker 1: with Queen City. Proud of Nick and the crew over there,
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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it's gonna be big. I got tailgate
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Speaker 1: report wise, just ready to go. Next Wednesday nine pm
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Speaker 1: is the kickoff of Hard Knocks. My eyes are glued
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Speaker 1: to it. We're ready to rock some golf this weekend.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful weekend here in Buffalo.
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Speaker 5: That's what's up, Fernando. We do a nicol City Crew
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Speaker 5: tailgate report. Tell us about Brazil. What are you doing
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Speaker 5: this weekend? I have never been to Brazil, but boy,
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Speaker 5: I am coming down to see you. If we win
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Speaker 5: that ring and we get that parade, I am coming
54:33
Speaker 5: down to see you. After I leave Buffalo and all
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Speaker 5: the party and and I wake up from from that hangover.
54:38
Speaker 5: I'm coming down to Brazil to see you, man, And
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Speaker 5: you better put me up, man, you better. You better
54:42
Speaker 5: show me what it's like down there, because boy, could
54:45
Speaker 5: I use some nice sun down there in Brazil and
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Speaker 5: all the.
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Speaker 3: Lovely things that come with that sun down there? Man?
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Speaker 3: What is going on in Brazil? Man? Man?
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Speaker 4: It's actually winter here now, right Okay?
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Speaker 3: Okay?
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Speaker 6: But our winter's I I think they are like summers
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Speaker 6: in Buffalo, so they are twenty.
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Speaker 4: I can't I never, I never could make the finny
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Speaker 4: hide in Celsius.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
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Speaker 4: But It's twenty.
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Speaker 6: Degrees celsius here in Brazil now and it's winter, so
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Speaker 6: I'm going out with my family and watching a little
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Speaker 6: bit soccer as well, waiting for the Bills games. But man,
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Speaker 6: I really appreciate you, and you'll be welcome and you'll
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Speaker 6: come down here.
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Speaker 4: Please let me know. It will be a pleasure to
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Speaker 4: have you guys out there. And man, thanks for having me,
55:36
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3: We really appreciate it. Man, we really appreciate your time.
55:40
Speaker 5: And I check him out on Instagram and Twitter at
55:42
Speaker 5: Fernando Smooth again. He is a writer creative director for
55:47
Speaker 5: Buffalo Rumblings. If you go in a Buffalo Rumblings, that
55:49
Speaker 5: was like literally one of my first spaces that I
55:51
Speaker 5: went to when I moved down here to Charlotte. I
55:53
Speaker 5: was looking for ways to connect to the Bills. Went
55:55
Speaker 5: on Buffalo Rumblings. They run a great site over there.
55:57
Speaker 5: I really want to be a contributor one day for them.
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Speaker 5: I can write as well. I've got some the gift
56:02
Speaker 5: to gap, but I can actually do it through the
56:04
Speaker 5: keyboard as well. And listen, Fernando, we really appreciate your time.
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Speaker 5: Really appreciate you taking the time out of your day
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Speaker 5: to join us, and I just converted it. It's sixty
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Speaker 5: eight degrees down there. You have nothing to complain about.
56:16
Speaker 5: It is not I mean you have nothing, Yeah winter
56:21
Speaker 5: my ass. I mean Buffaloians and seventy one six ers.
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Speaker 5: We know in western New York what winn is like
56:27
Speaker 5: and that sixty eight degrees is not winner. But you
56:30
Speaker 5: guys are kissing the equator down there in Brazil. So listen,
56:32
Speaker 5: we really really appreciate you tonight. Listen, all the listeners,
56:35
Speaker 5: over eight hundred and fifty people watching on the TG
56:37
Speaker 5: I have Friday.
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Speaker 3: We appreciate you. We really do appreciate your support. Listen.
56:42
Speaker 3: Bills are back preseason next week. DT already talked about it.
56:46
Speaker 5: Tart knocks next week like we are about to be
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Speaker 5: featured one of the features on HBO Max.
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Speaker 3: Listen. I can't wait for it all.
56:54
Speaker 5: We talked about the Office a little bit tonight. You
56:56
Speaker 5: guys know, I mean, hey, do it again, and I'll
56:59
Speaker 5: shut the fuck up.
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Speaker 3: Do it again. Do it again, offense, Joe Brady, do
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Speaker 3: it again. That's that's it.
57:04
Speaker 5: I just want I want Josh to have everything at
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Speaker 5: his disposal when when the rubber meets the road, and
57:11
Speaker 5: last year it wasn't good enough at the very end,
57:14
Speaker 5: and yes, throughout the regular season all the way up
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Speaker 5: to it was good enough.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't good enough at the end, and the year
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Speaker 3: before it wasn't good enough. So we'll see.
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Speaker 5: Everybody eats, is their moniker DT already talked about it tonight.
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Speaker 5: They are doubling down. They're going with it, DT. We'll see.
57:28
Speaker 5: I'll hush, I will be quiet if they do it again.
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Speaker 5: They got they gotta do it again, though, before I
57:35
Speaker 5: shut up about it, because I'm still I'm.
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Speaker 3: Still to get.
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Speaker 1: Everybody eats. Everybody's got to be hungry to eat. So
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Speaker 1: we got a team a hungry We're hungry. That was
57:43
Speaker 1: the lame way to end it.
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Speaker 3: I love it. Hit them with their gold bills for
57:49
Speaker 3: Nando DT.
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Speaker 5: Hit them with the god bills out there, enjoy your
57:51
Speaker 5: weekend out there, listen, spread love not hate.
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Speaker 3: These were my bills, thoughts set out loud. Hit him
57:56
Speaker 3: with the go bills, fellas. I mean that, that's it, bills.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Nando Gore, thank you.
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Speaker 3: I'm