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- 1:52Speaker 1: an Oracle took a big step today buying net Suite
- 1:56Speaker 1: in a deal valued at about nine point three billion dollars.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Netsuites products include customer relationship management software that will help
- 2:05Speaker 1: Oracle compete against the likes of Salesforce, dot Com and Microsoft.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Joining us now is on rog Rana. He's senior analyst
- 2:13Speaker 1: of software and I t services for Bloomberg Intelligence on Rock. Welcome.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Thank you. Now we know Oracle has been heading in
- 2:21Speaker 1: this direction as you were just telling me. Uh. In fact,
- 2:25Speaker 1: Larry Allison was a h investor in net Suite along
- 2:30Speaker 1: the way, so not exactly a surprise. How important is
- 2:33Speaker 1: this for Oracle? It's fairly important for Oracle to be
- 2:36Speaker 1: much more aggressive in the cloud applications space. Um, they
- 2:40Speaker 1: have been behind salesforce, they have been behind work day
- 2:43Speaker 1: when it comes to applications that are sold through the cloud. Now,
- 2:46Speaker 1: the history is both SAP and Article has dominated this
- 2:49Speaker 1: place for the last twenty plus years selling on premise applications.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Now with this new way of selling applications through the cloud.
- 2:57Speaker 1: You know, the three largest companies have been sales course
- 3:00Speaker 1: worked in net suite and you know a few smaller
- 3:02Speaker 1: ones and the growth is all in the cloud area.
- 3:06Speaker 1: So as Article is trying to move their product portfolio
- 3:09Speaker 1: from on premise to the cloud, you know this kind
- 3:12Speaker 1: of fits into their uh, you know, grow organically as
- 3:15Speaker 1: well as through acquisition strategy. On a rug, just to
- 3:18Speaker 1: describe CRM customer relationship management, we're talking about being able
- 3:23Speaker 1: to manage a salesforce and their interaction with current clients
- 3:29Speaker 1: but also potential clients. Doesn't really matter whether it's in
- 3:32Speaker 1: the cloud or wherever it is, just has to work.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Net suite do they bring small and mid size businesses
- 3:40Speaker 1: to Oracle in a way that is almost you know,
- 3:43Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you want to buy that sweet,
- 3:47Speaker 1: so that a couple of things first. In the CRM space,
- 3:49Speaker 1: you know, the big goodll Obviously Salesforce, dot Com, um
- 3:53Speaker 1: next wee does not do that. The net Sweet is
- 3:54Speaker 1: in the e r P space, which is your financial accounting,
- 3:57Speaker 1: financial management and things like that, and only for the
- 4:00Speaker 1: small to midside, mostly for the small to midsize customers.
- 4:03Speaker 1: As you said, UM, so far we really don't have
- 4:06Speaker 1: a bohemoth like Salesforce for CRM or work Day for
- 4:11Speaker 1: HR applications um in in the e r P space,
- 4:14Speaker 1: most of those are on premise applications that were deployed
- 4:17Speaker 1: by s a P. Now Article has a product which
- 4:21Speaker 1: is a cloud based the RP system. But what I
- 4:24Speaker 1: think will happen with this this place is you have
- 4:26Speaker 1: the next SWEET product. You have the financial and the
- 4:29Speaker 1: sales and marketing arm of of Article, which now you
- 4:33Speaker 1: can go and start selling this product to the to
- 4:36Speaker 1: the large enterprises. How much does this mean for Oracle's
- 4:40Speaker 1: bottom line? See again, it's it's more of a strategic
- 4:43Speaker 1: move because again it's not going to add that much
- 4:46Speaker 1: to the you know, earnings or to the to the
- 4:48Speaker 1: top line. But really what you're going to see is,
- 4:51Speaker 1: you know, you know, a few years later when most
- 4:54Speaker 1: of the applications that people are using would be cloud based.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Article wants to be a part fit at that point.
- 5:01Speaker 1: You don't want to be left behind, which is partially
- 5:03Speaker 1: the reason why you see a lot of cloud acquisitions
- 5:06Speaker 1: in the space. SAP has been acquiring a lot of
- 5:08Speaker 1: entities for the past few years. Article actually has been
- 5:11Speaker 1: a lot a little you know, quieter on on the
- 5:13Speaker 1: acquisition front compared to these some of the other companies. Well,
- 5:17Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the performance of the stock of
- 5:19Speaker 1: Oracle today. Investors must like the deal because the shares
- 5:22Speaker 1: are higher by about three quarters of a percent. Shares
- 5:25Speaker 1: of net Suite are higher by more than eighteen percent.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Any chance that anybody else is going to come in
- 5:32Speaker 1: and make a competing bid for net Suite. I mean,
- 5:35Speaker 1: I'm leading you on because I want you to tell
- 5:37Speaker 1: me who's the biggest shareholder of net suite. It's lady
- 5:40Speaker 1: is one of the biggest area, one of the biggest shareholders.
- 5:43Speaker 1: But the thing is, I think that the valuation for
- 5:46Speaker 1: this particular deal, let close to eleven plus times revenue,
- 5:50Speaker 1: is one of the more expensive ones on the market.
- 5:52Speaker 1: So it's not as if you know, he's he's getting
- 5:54Speaker 1: a bargain over here, uh um, you know, in this deal.
- 5:58Speaker 1: So I know it will be very tough for somebody
- 6:00Speaker 1: else to come in and you know, either top the
- 6:02Speaker 1: price or try to get it with so much of
- 6:04Speaker 1: you know, voting power that Larry has. Is there a
- 6:07Speaker 1: risk of a disruptor of a whole other approach to this,
- 6:11Speaker 1: this kind of uh task inside a company that you know,
- 6:16Speaker 1: or a call the spends way to keep up, but
- 6:18Speaker 1: someone else it's going to leap frog ahead. It's going
- 6:21Speaker 1: to be tough only because you have a lot of
- 6:23Speaker 1: customer relationships and your systems are already ingrained to what
- 6:28Speaker 1: you do, whether it's supply chain, whether you're serial accounting,
- 6:31Speaker 1: I mean you're that's the lifeline of a particular business,
- 6:34Speaker 1: so it's not just easy to uproot it. And which
- 6:37Speaker 1: is partly the reason why the on premise business is
- 6:39Speaker 1: still relatively stable for a SAP is because it's just
- 6:43Speaker 1: not easy to rip it about. I want to thank
- 6:46Speaker 1: you very much for coming and sharing all this information
- 6:48Speaker 1: with us. On A. Rag Arana is a senior analyst
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- 7:11Speaker 1: Oracles nine point three billion dollar purchase of net Suite,
- 7:15Speaker 1: shares of net Suite higher right now by more than
- 7:17Speaker 1: eighteen shares of Oracle up by three quarters of represent
- 7:23Speaker 1: and the shares of Salesforce dot Com up more than
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