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Where is Alexis, 24-y-o? Her blue Infinity abandoned in cul-de-sac. · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gorgeous twenty four year
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Speaker 1: old beauty seemingly disappears into thin air. Where is Alexis?
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Speaker 1: I mean, see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious
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Speaker 1: XM one eleven. First of all, take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friend Leslie Brinkley KGO ABC seven. It just felt
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Speaker 1: like a regular day. She asked if she had mail
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Speaker 1: at the post office. That was last Wednesday afternoon, January
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Speaker 1: twenty sixth. Gwinn Gabe said. By the next morning, his
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Speaker 1: younger sister, Alexis Gabe had not come home to the
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Speaker 1: apartment she shares with her parents. What is it that
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Speaker 1: made you feel that this was serious? This was a
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Speaker 1: scary situation for her to disappear because usually she comes
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Speaker 1: home because she has responsibilities. She dropped my brother off
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Speaker 1: at school. The family launched an intensive search around Brentwood
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Speaker 1: and Oakley. That afternoon, they found her light blue Infinity
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Speaker 1: abandoned on a residential street, keys still in the car.
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Speaker 1: As soon as my parents got there, my dad was like,
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Speaker 1: open the trunk, so I unlock the trunk. ND I
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Speaker 1: opened it up and it was nothing there nothing there.
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Speaker 1: That was Yeah, Yeah, harrowing for sure. Yeah, that's what
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Speaker 1: you don't want to have to look in a car
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Speaker 1: trunk for your daughter, for your sister. That's exactly what
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Speaker 1: you don't want. And that is the point at which
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Speaker 1: Alexis family has found themselves. They go, they find her
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Speaker 1: car and look in the trunk for twenty four year
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Speaker 1: old Alexis. How did they know she was missing? What
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Speaker 1: led up to it? What is this area? So many
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Speaker 1: questions in the search for Alexis. Gabe again, I'm Meancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: An all star panel is with me to make sense
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Speaker 1: of what we know right now. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: host of Today with Doctor Wendy joining us k CBQ,
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Speaker 1: San Diego. You can find her at Wendy Patrick, PhD
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Speaker 1: dot com. Renowned psychologists joining us out of Manhattan. Karen Start,
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Speaker 1: you can find her at Karen Start dot com. That's
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Speaker 1: Karen with a C. Founder and director of the Cold
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Speaker 1: Case Research Institute. Cheryl McCullum at Coalcase Crimes dot org.
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Speaker 1: Amanda Kitana at VU Fox Too joining us from the
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Speaker 1: Bay Area. Special guest, longtime friend and colleague Mark Klass
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Speaker 1: joining us. He has devoted his life defining missing people
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Speaker 1: since the disappearance and death of his beautiful girl Polly,
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Speaker 1: and you can find him at class kids dot Org.
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Speaker 1: Special guests joining us right now Alexis older brother, Gwen Gabe,
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Speaker 1: and his girlfriend Morgan Strenfell to everyone. Thank you. Gwen first,
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Speaker 1: to you, when did she first realize Alexis had seemingly vanished? Oh? Well,
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Speaker 1: it was a Thursday morning when my little brother was
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Speaker 1: texting me asking where she was because she was supposed
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Speaker 1: to drop him off to school. How old is your
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Speaker 1: little brother? He just turned fifteen a couple days ago,
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Speaker 1: and she normally takes him to school, drives him to school. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: she does every morning and she picks him off out
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Speaker 1: to school. You know what you're saying to me right
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Speaker 1: now is very powerful, Gwen. Gwen Gabe is Alexis brother.
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Speaker 1: Because if I did not take my children and pick
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Speaker 1: them up from school every single day, anybody that knows
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Speaker 1: our family professionally personally would know I had to either
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Speaker 1: be in the hospital or worse not to be there,
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Speaker 1: because that's just something you don't miss. You don't leave
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Speaker 1: a child standing there the last one, everybody's gone and
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Speaker 1: they're just standing there. No, that is not going to happen.
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Speaker 1: So she typically picked him up and dropped him off
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Speaker 1: every day. And you know what Mark Klass, founder Class
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Speaker 1: Kids Foundation, And that's what it's called routine evidence. And
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Speaker 1: I don't mean routine evidence as in it's typical, it's
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Speaker 1: running the medal evidence. I mean it's evidence of behavior
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Speaker 1: of routine, not just behavior, because behavior can vary, routine
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Speaker 1: typically does not vary. And right there, when she was
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Speaker 1: not there to take the little brother to school that morning,
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Speaker 1: everybody's just set off alarm bells. And that's very significant.
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Speaker 1: Mark class Well, it is very significant because this was
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Speaker 1: a woman who had her patterns, as you mentioned, and
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Speaker 1: the pattern was broken. So absolutely everybody went went into
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Speaker 1: a high alert at that point and they haven't let up.
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Speaker 1: They've done a tremendous job of looking for Alexis. I
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Speaker 1: was just thinking about what that clue right their main
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Speaker 1: Sharyl McCollum, because you know, one of the first things
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Speaker 1: you want to do is establish your timeline, because that
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Speaker 1: means so much to a case. It's so critical who
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Speaker 1: was with her at that time, where had she been,
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Speaker 1: had she been at the grocery store. Did somebody follow
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Speaker 1: her out? You know? You and I worked on a
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Speaker 1: case where a woman didn't know it, but she was
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Speaker 1: followed from the from the grocery store to the pharmacy.
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Speaker 1: And when she got back in the car, the three
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Speaker 1: little children remember her, Jackie, miss Beatty. Some per rises
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Speaker 1: up out of the back seat. Where thy knife? Okay?
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Speaker 1: Now what I wanted to know was where had she been?
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Speaker 1: How did she not see this guy? Who is this guy?
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking right now. Where had Alexis been?
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Speaker 1: Has she been at the grocery store? Has she been
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Speaker 1: at the library? Has she been at work? I know
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Speaker 1: one thing. She wasn't there to take a little brother
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Speaker 1: to school like she did every single morning. Evidence of routine, Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: A lot of timeline start with that, no question about it.
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Speaker 1: She was reliable, She was dependable. She did this every
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Speaker 1: morning that he had school, and he knew it. And
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Speaker 1: he was smart enough to call his brother and say, look,
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Speaker 1: something's all right because she's always here. You know. Another
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Speaker 1: thing about this, to you, Karen, start a lot of people,
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Speaker 1: I think you can identify this with this as well.
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Speaker 1: You might not go to your own doctor appointment, or
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Speaker 1: your dentist appointment, or you might forget to take your pill,
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Speaker 1: or you're this or you're that supposed to do. But
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Speaker 1: it's a lot harder. It would be a lot harder
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Speaker 1: for me to let down my children than it would
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Speaker 1: be from Eedle to ignore something for myself. I'm not
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Speaker 1: verbalizing this farewell, but I don't I think she might
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Speaker 1: ignore something that she was supposed to do for herself,
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Speaker 1: but to not take her little brother to school and
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Speaker 1: leave him high and dry, I don't see it, But
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Speaker 1: I mean she's she's also we know she's extremely reliable
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Speaker 1: and she understands that they are depending on her. And
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Speaker 1: when you have someone depending on you, if it's a
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Speaker 1: little brother or your children, that makes a big difference.
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Speaker 1: You can not take care of you, like you said,
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Speaker 1: but you're certainly going to take care of the people
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Speaker 1: that are depending on you that you love. Let's go
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Speaker 1: out to our friend from KATV Fox to joining ouside
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Speaker 1: the Bay area, Amanda King, Tana, I mean, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us. I really appreciate it. I want
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Speaker 1: to hear about the area Antioch, California and the vehicle
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Speaker 1: found Brent with California. Let's start with Antioch. What's the
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Speaker 1: population about one hundred and twenty thousand. Yeah, so she
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Speaker 1: is from Oakley, so that's mainly where the search has
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Speaker 1: been in Oakley because that's where she lives with her family.
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Speaker 1: But she was last seen in Antioch. Yeah, I want
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Speaker 1: to talk about Antioch. Is it rural? Is it? What
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Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? It's it's a bigger city in that area,
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Speaker 1: but it's surrounded by a very moral area. It's east
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Speaker 1: of San Francisco, so about an hour from San Francisco,
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Speaker 1: but a pretty tight knit community over there. Now. The
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Speaker 1: reason I ask Wendy Patrick, California Prosecutor, is because the
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Speaker 1: area means a lot to me. For instance, if you're
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Speaker 1: in Manhattan, for Pete's sake, anybody right now, they've got
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Speaker 1: a serial killer killing homeless people, so already kill three
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Speaker 1: that we know off. It's like a needle in a haystack.
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Speaker 1: It could be one of millions and millions of people.
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Speaker 1: When you're in an area like Antioch, that's where she
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Speaker 1: was last saying, and there's one hundred thousand people living
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Speaker 1: there similar to where I grew up. That really limits
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Speaker 1: your number of persons of interest. Agree, disagree, Mindy Patrick, agree, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you one reason it does is you
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Speaker 1: most likely know people in your town. I know, one
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand may sound like a lot of people, but
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Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet if they go to the same
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Speaker 1: grocery store, library, fitness centers. And when someone goes missing,
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Speaker 1: you're going to want to know where she last was.
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Speaker 1: You're going to want to know who she last spoke to.
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Speaker 1: And when you disregard a family obligation, you at the
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Speaker 1: very least know that this is not normal and that
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Speaker 1: you're going to want to start asking questions surrounding maybe
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Speaker 1: even that apple obligation. So you're right. Small towns are
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Speaker 1: more close knits and provide richer leads to try to
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Speaker 1: help authorities find the missing person. Chery will column. You
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Speaker 1: ever heard of the confluence? Okay? So we took the
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Speaker 1: twins across the country in an RV and one of
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Speaker 1: the places we went to was the beautiful arch in
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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, right, and we went hiking. And this was
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Speaker 1: right after COVID had hit and everything was That's why
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Speaker 1: we went into RVY because we don't want to be
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Speaker 1: in hotels. We camped out the whole way and it's
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Speaker 1: where the Mighty Mississippi and the Muddy Missouri Okay seorg
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Speaker 1: they joined together the confluence. This area is beautiful Antioch.
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Speaker 1: That's where the San Joaquin and the Sacramento rivers join
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Speaker 1: and then they head to the Pacific Ocean. And once
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Speaker 1: you've seen something like that, never forget it. It's beautiful
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Speaker 1: and it's very, very tear isolated. But there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of rural area, a lot of forests, a lot of
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Speaker 1: countryside in that area, and that really changes the complexion
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Speaker 1: of the case when you have somebody to go missing
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Speaker 1: in an area like Antioch. Again, I'm going to start
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Speaker 1: with the vehicle because I'm gonna work backwards from there
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Speaker 1: because I know the ending the Indian is the car
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Speaker 1: is here and she's not with it. So I'm going
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Speaker 1: to work for any video that I can find, and
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Speaker 1: then I'm going to literally follow the cameras. So if
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Speaker 1: I have her leaving this neighborhood on Trenton Street, and
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Speaker 1: then I can pick her up at a bank, if
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Speaker 1: I can pick the car up at a convenience store
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Speaker 1: or a church or a school, anybody else that has
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Speaker 1: a camera, if they have the flock system, there of cameras.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to follow backwards until I see her get
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Speaker 1: in that car park that car. What is she doing?
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to go backwards until I can intersect
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Speaker 1: her and a potential Well, you're absolutely right. The car's
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Speaker 1: the latest piece of evidence we have. You know, this
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Speaker 1: is Wendy. You know, one thing I would look at
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Speaker 1: is that her car was found on a residential street.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't in a ditch, it wasn't in a laden,
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Speaker 1: It was on a residential street with me and who
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Speaker 1: aren't going somewhere? Where was she on the way to
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Speaker 1: or the way from? So I agree that's a huge
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Speaker 1: piece of evidence. Time stories with Nancy Grace, you know,
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Speaker 1: you hear people that go missing and then years later
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Speaker 1: their cars found like in a body of water or
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Speaker 1: a river or something, and nobody knew it was there.
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Speaker 1: It's not like her car went down a ravine. It's
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Speaker 1: not like it's found in the water. She didn't crash
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Speaker 1: into a fixed stops like a tree or stop sign.
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Speaker 1: Her car sitting there, So why is she not in it?
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Speaker 1: Was she apprehended? Did somebody put her car there? Did
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Speaker 1: she even drive her car there? And that would make
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Speaker 1: me want the car to be processed on the inside
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Speaker 1: and out, including the driver's side handle, the steering wheel,
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Speaker 1: the dash, the seat belt, the console, the everything, the ignition,
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Speaker 1: remember and the race of hallback case. Stephen Avery making
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Speaker 1: a murderer. His DNA is found on the ignition in
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Speaker 1: her car. Well, Nancy, everything matters. Jump in the review
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Speaker 1: mirror is a good place to do as well, because
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Speaker 1: people just inadvertently do that. It's almost like a habit.
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Speaker 1: Side mirror, rearview mirror, the seat position, and remember in
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Speaker 1: Tera Grinstead the seat and Terra's car had been moved
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Speaker 1: back for a taller person to drive her car. She
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Speaker 1: was very petite. So what do I know? The keys
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Speaker 1: are in the car, but the car was not running,
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Speaker 1: which means whoever drove that car last had to shut
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Speaker 1: the keys off. I like the way you said, who
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Speaker 1: drive the car? We don't know if she drive for
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Speaker 1: a car there, guys, take a listen to our cut.
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Speaker 1: Four a is Rob nespit K and four. Alexis's family
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Speaker 1: says it's not like her to go this long without
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Speaker 1: at least texting or calling. Today was especially hard on
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Speaker 1: them as they come to grips with what might have
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Speaker 1: happened a people person who made new friends wherever she went.
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Speaker 1: Very outgoing. Gwyn Gabe says Alexis Gabe wasn't just his sister,
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Speaker 1: but also his best friend. The recent college graduate has
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Speaker 1: been missing since Wednesday night. Gwen's girlfriend, Morgan Strunfell, says
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Speaker 1: there were several reasons to worry as soon as her
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Speaker 1: friends hadn't heard from her all night. Essentially that was
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Speaker 1: the first stred flag. The fact that she never came home,
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Speaker 1: second red flag, and then obviously finding her car key's
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Speaker 1: in the admission doors unlocked was huge. You're hearing the
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Speaker 1: voices of Alexis' brother, Gwen Gabe, who was joining us,
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Speaker 1: and his girlfriend who was taking a very active role
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Speaker 1: in the search for Alexis. Morgan's trend Fell. Morgan, thank
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Speaker 1: you again to you and get Gwen for being with us. Morgan,
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Speaker 1: tell me when you first learned it, Alexis seemingly just vanished. Um, well,
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Speaker 1: the situation kind of started Thursday morning. I mean you
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Speaker 1: kind of. It's the middle of the week, so everyone
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Speaker 1: is just going about their daily routine, as you said,
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Speaker 1: and there had been some conversation back and forth between
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Speaker 1: the two brothers like that Alexis hadn't made it home
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Speaker 1: to take him to school, and Gwen, her older brother,
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Speaker 1: was in class himself, so he had called me and
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Speaker 1: asked if I was headed home or would be home soon,
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Speaker 1: because he wanted to see if maybe Alexis was at
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Speaker 1: our place where we live. So I went and go
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Speaker 1: on ahead and headed straight home, and I said that
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Speaker 1: I would meet him there when I got here to
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Speaker 1: our place. There was no sign, offer or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: I really didn't think of anything of it at that point.
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Speaker 1: It was when Gwen met me here at the house,
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Speaker 1: and then we spoke with his parents to maybe twenty
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Speaker 1: thirty minutes after that. This would have been at like
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Speaker 1: eleven on Thursday morning, and at this time her parents
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Speaker 1: were pretty worried and wanted us to go ahead and
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Speaker 1: move forward with filing a missing person's report, because at
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Speaker 1: this point we had spoken with her friends and anyone
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Speaker 1: that we could have thought she would have been with,
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Speaker 1: and nobody had heard from her since the night previous.
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Speaker 1: You know, Morgan, it must have just felt like a
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Speaker 1: horrible dream. Because you hear about disappearances, you read about them.
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Speaker 1: But I guess in the back of my mind, I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking about when my son went missing inside of babies
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Speaker 1: or a superstore. When he went missing, all I could
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Speaker 1: think of were other cases I'd read about were children
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Speaker 1: his age was about three at that time, had gone
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Speaker 1: missing from a mall or a store, and I thought, this, this,
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Speaker 1: this is not happening. He's got to be here somewhere.
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Speaker 1: Of course, I was screaming, bloody murder and for them
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Speaker 1: to lock the doors and start screaming and running with
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Speaker 1: my daughter, who was his twin under my arm like
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Speaker 1: a football Mark class. I'm sure you've heard the story
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Speaker 1: so many times. I hate to even tell it with
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Speaker 1: you listening, but it it was real, but it seemed surreal.
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Speaker 1: I guess what did that feel like? I can remember,
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Speaker 1: like thinking back to that day driving to the police station.
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Speaker 1: We were going to meet her friends there so that
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Speaker 1: we could have as much information for the police officer
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Speaker 1: as possible. And I remember my mom called me when
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Speaker 1: we were on our way there, and I remember telling
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Speaker 1: her like, Alexis is missing. But I didn't saying that
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Speaker 1: then didn't feel like it feels now. Obviously it's been
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Speaker 1: close to two months now, and she did. It just
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Speaker 1: not feel real at that time, Like he thought, Okay,
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Speaker 1: we're going to find or this is some screw. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean obviously in the beginning, you are incredibly hopeful
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Speaker 1: because you're like, Okay, well, there's got to be some
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Speaker 1: reasonable explanation, like maybe she fell asleep somewhere and her
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Speaker 1: phone died. Maybe she just hasn't been able to charge
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Speaker 1: her phone. Like, you go through all of the logical reasons,
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Speaker 1: and at a certain point you kind of have to
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Speaker 1: face what's in front of you. And when we found
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Speaker 1: her car, dimerative in your head shifts for sure. So
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Speaker 1: what about that moment, Gwen, Gay, this is Alexis brother
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Speaker 1: and guys we use those just joining us. Let me
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Speaker 1: give the tip line right now nine two five six
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Speaker 1: two five eight zero six zero repeat nine two five
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Speaker 1: six two five eight zero six zero. We are looking
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Speaker 1: for Alexis Gabe, twenty four years old, beautiful on the
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Speaker 1: inside and the outside. Gwen, her brother joining us. Gwen,
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Speaker 1: when you pulled up and you saw her car sitting there,
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Speaker 1: what went through your mind? M just to look for
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Speaker 1: any clues? Um. Immediately I looked through the windows see
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Speaker 1: if anywhere was stuff was in there, and I saw
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Speaker 1: the keys that were in the car, and I told
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Speaker 1: I told everyone that the keys were in the car
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Speaker 1: and my cousin opened the door so it was unlocked,
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Speaker 1: and immediately we just started looking through the car and
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Speaker 1: I was at that point, um, it still didn't feel real. Um.
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Speaker 1: But looking back now, I think I was just in shock.
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to believe it. M It's it's definitely
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Speaker 1: something you you wouldn't find yourself being in a situation.
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Speaker 1: So it was definitely unreal for me. So out of
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Speaker 1: the ordinary. You know, Mark Class joining me is really
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Speaker 1: a legends hero to crime victims all across our Country's
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Speaker 1: Mark Class k l A A S. Mark. I don't
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Speaker 1: think I ever tells you this. My husband travels a
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Speaker 1: lot for his business all over and he texts me
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Speaker 1: whenever he takes off, texts me when he lands, and
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Speaker 1: then we try to talk on the phone. But I'm
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Speaker 1: so busy, you know, trying to work and take care
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Speaker 1: of the children. A lot of time, I don't pick
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Speaker 1: the phone up when he calls. And that's just sp
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Speaker 1: It doesn't vary. And there was a time Mark Class
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Speaker 1: he texts when he landed. I think it was in Miami.
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Speaker 1: That's a heck of a place. I mean, here's a
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Speaker 1: lot of crime there. Then I suddenly realized about eleven
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Speaker 1: o'clock that night, I never heard from him again. So
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Speaker 1: it's like three o'clock that afternoon, and that is totally
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Speaker 1: out of character. Well, let me tell you Mark class.
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Speaker 1: About four am, I finally find him at a hotel.
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Speaker 1: I think he's in his room asleep. You damn well
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Speaker 1: better be in there alone, number one. But I was
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Speaker 1: more worried about him having a heart attack. That's how
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Speaker 1: odd it is that he didn't text. I finally, somehow
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Speaker 1: long distance bullied and begged and pleaded and cried and
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Speaker 1: carried on and got the night clerk to go not
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Speaker 1: on his door with his cell phone on and check,
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Speaker 1: and David was just completely passed out of sleep. I
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Speaker 1: mean he had gotten up the morning before at three
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Speaker 1: am to catch an early flight. Blah blah blah. Can
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Speaker 1: I tell you how many hospitals I called? How many this?
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Speaker 1: How many that? I mean, just trying to make sure,
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Speaker 1: because like you're hearing Gwen say, you see the car,
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Speaker 1: it's totally out of the ordinary. It's something that doesn't happen,
22:27
Speaker 1: that feeling. And I just got to ask you that
22:30
Speaker 1: I can't believe there's a question I haven't asked you
22:32
Speaker 1: about Polly's disappearance. When you were first confronted with the
22:37
Speaker 1: fact that your girl, Polly was missing, did it even
22:40
Speaker 1: seem real to you? Did you think, oh, this is
22:43
Speaker 1: some script, this is a misunderstanding. Well, no, Nancy, it didn't. Actually,
22:48
Speaker 1: I was asleep when we got the phone call, the
22:51
Speaker 1: midnight phone call that nobody wants to receive, and it
22:56
Speaker 1: was somebody telling me that Polly had been kidnapped. I
22:59
Speaker 1: did a couple of things immediately, and it didn't feel real.
23:03
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't particularly freaking out yet at that point.
23:06
Speaker 1: But the very first thing I did was called the
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Speaker 1: Pedaluma Police Department just to confirm that my daughter had
23:13
Speaker 1: been reported missing, and once they were able to verify
23:16
Speaker 1: who I was, they told me that she was missing.
23:19
Speaker 1: The second thing I did is contacted the FBI and
23:23
Speaker 1: basically begged them for their help. Then we did not,
23:27
Speaker 1: obviously did not go back to sleep, and it was
23:29
Speaker 1: only the next morning, at about six o'clock when the
23:34
Speaker 1: news station, the local radio station, news radio station announced
23:39
Speaker 1: that Polly class had been kidnapped, that it hit me
23:42
Speaker 1: like a ton of bricks. It completely freaked me out.
23:46
Speaker 1: And we quickly gathered some of our belongings and drove
23:51
Speaker 1: up the Pedaluma, which was about a thirty mile trip,
23:54
Speaker 1: and didn't return for over two months while we were
23:57
Speaker 1: looking for Polly. Now, I have to say that her
24:03
Speaker 1: case is so very different from this case in many
24:05
Speaker 1: of the cases, because she's an adult, and you know,
24:08
Speaker 1: there's an old trope in law enforcement that if they're
24:12
Speaker 1: an adult, they're doing what they want to do and
24:16
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be interfered with, or that you have to
24:19
Speaker 1: wait twenty four hours to make a missing person report
24:23
Speaker 1: with law enforcement. And fortunately, in this case, because of
24:27
Speaker 1: the wonderful advocacy of Morgan and Gwyn, people took this
24:31
Speaker 1: very seriously from the very beginning, and her case did
24:36
Speaker 1: not have a really cold period. It was a hot
24:39
Speaker 1: case from moment one. People were aware of it, and
24:43
Speaker 1: people were concerned about it, and people were taking action
24:46
Speaker 1: about it. And I think that's kind of a wonderful
24:48
Speaker 1: thing for both the family and their advocacy in law enforcement. Well,
24:53
Speaker 1: you're right, Mark, class brother, Gwyn and his girlfriend Morgan
24:58
Speaker 1: on this hit the ground run just like you, Dave
25:01
Speaker 1: when Polly went missing. Take a listen to our cut eight.
25:04
Speaker 1: This is Amanda Quintana, our friend from KTV. Alexis Gabe
25:08
Speaker 1: didn't come home on January twenty six. Her family found
25:11
Speaker 1: her car abandoned on a seemingly random street in Oakley
25:15
Speaker 1: the next day with the keys in the ignition. But
25:18
Speaker 1: there hasn't really been any new information since then. So
25:21
Speaker 1: next week members of the Class Kids Foundation will be
25:24
Speaker 1: arriving as a nonprofit that will help organize and train
25:27
Speaker 1: volunteers to search for Alexis. Motions are definite coming out
25:33
Speaker 1: a lot more. My parents are still not doing so well.
25:41
Speaker 1: We're about to enter week four in the disappearance of
25:43
Speaker 1: Alexis Gabe. That realization is especially hard on her brother
25:48
Speaker 1: Gwynn and his girlfriend Morgan. The two have been leading
25:51
Speaker 1: efforts to find her and we're looking brandsers is waiting
25:55
Speaker 1: on getting harder crime stories with Nancy Grace to Amanda
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Speaker 1: Kitana joining us, Katvu Fox to joining us side of
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Speaker 1: the Bay Area again, thank you so much, Amanda for
26:25
Speaker 1: being with us. A random street What does that mean?
26:28
Speaker 1: Was it at the end of a cul de sac
26:30
Speaker 1: as parked on the side of the street as if
26:33
Speaker 1: she was going into that house? Describe where the car
26:38
Speaker 1: was talking to the family. She had no connection to
26:41
Speaker 1: that street. She didn't know anyone that lived there. She
26:43
Speaker 1: didn't have any friends really in that area. But it
26:47
Speaker 1: is a dead end street and kind of kind of
26:51
Speaker 1: a cul de sac next to it, But a dead
26:53
Speaker 1: end street that she had no connection to. Wow, a
26:57
Speaker 1: dead end street. Let me ask you this, Guen Gabe,
27:00
Speaker 1: this is Alexis brother was at part at the end
27:04
Speaker 1: of the street. No, it was parked on the side,
27:08
Speaker 1: not even near the cul de sact like near the
27:11
Speaker 1: entrance of the street. The search is on for Alexis Gabe.
27:16
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut eleven Philippe de jall
27:20
Speaker 1: at k r O N four. Some fifty volunteers joined
27:23
Speaker 1: the first two ground searches for twenty four year old
27:26
Speaker 1: Alexis Gabe, an effort organized by the Class Kids Foundation.
27:31
Speaker 1: The teams are spread out across eastern Contra Costa County,
27:34
Speaker 1: checking remote areas off the beaten path for the Oakley residence.
27:38
Speaker 1: We are coordinating with the police department in terms of
27:42
Speaker 1: areas that they have wanted us to focus on. The
27:46
Speaker 1: Oakley Police Department is leading the investigation into Alexis's disappearance.
27:51
Speaker 1: Her older brother, Gwynn, and his girlfriend Morgan Strenfel stationed
27:55
Speaker 1: at the Contra Costa County fair Grounds in Antioch, the
27:58
Speaker 1: staging area for the search. I'm holding in a lot
28:01
Speaker 1: of anger and frustration and every day get a little
28:07
Speaker 1: more angry sheet more frustrated, but grateful for the attention
28:10
Speaker 1: and support his family has received from the community. I'm
28:15
Speaker 1: trying to figure out her amazements leaning up to her
28:18
Speaker 1: disappearance to Morgan Strenfield, who is helping Alexa's brother Gwyan
28:26
Speaker 1: lead to search. Where was she there not before she
28:30
Speaker 1: gets missing? M As far as we know, we spoke
28:33
Speaker 1: with her, and by we I mean her brother and
28:37
Speaker 1: I spoke with her around four thirty on Wednesday, and
28:43
Speaker 1: then we know that she dropped her little brother often
28:47
Speaker 1: off at the apartment slash shows with her parents. That
28:50
Speaker 1: was around the same time, around like four thirty five,
28:56
Speaker 1: and then she also spoke with her best friends around
28:58
Speaker 1: six thirty. At that time, she was still at her apartment.
29:03
Speaker 1: She was just in her car in the parking lot.
29:06
Speaker 1: And then after that, as far as we knew, she
29:09
Speaker 1: said that she was coming to see Gwen. She told
29:15
Speaker 1: multiple people that, But it looks like she went to
29:20
Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend's house and that is the house of
29:22
Speaker 1: Annioch two Amanda Quetana joining us, Katie du Fox too,
29:28
Speaker 1: so we know she's alive and well. At six thirty
29:32
Speaker 1: pm the night before she goes missing, that would have
29:37
Speaker 1: been JAM twenty six correct, Yes, okay? And were there
29:41
Speaker 1: any phone calls or text after six thirty pm? No?
29:45
Speaker 1: From what I understand, talking to texting with her friends
29:49
Speaker 1: was the last people that heard from her, and that
29:52
Speaker 1: was at six thirty. Yes. Do we know Amanda Qutana
29:57
Speaker 1: if her phone was payed after that? Has her cell
30:00
Speaker 1: phone been found? Police have not released any information on that.
30:05
Speaker 1: But from what I understand, once she was missing and
30:10
Speaker 1: her family was looking for her, her phone was off
30:13
Speaker 1: so they would call straight to voicemail. Cheryl McCollum, forensics
30:17
Speaker 1: expert joining us, Cheryl, what about that This is not
30:21
Speaker 1: like her to have her phone off. No, it's not
30:23
Speaker 1: like her at all. I'm gonna want any data they
30:27
Speaker 1: could be gotten from her vehicle if there's a computer
30:30
Speaker 1: in her car, And I also want to know about
30:32
Speaker 1: her cell phone and when those two things separated. When
30:37
Speaker 1: did the phone stop and when did the car stop?
30:40
Speaker 1: Because I don't think it's going to be at the
30:42
Speaker 1: same time. I think the phone was done first and
30:45
Speaker 1: then the car was abandoned. You know what else I want?
30:48
Speaker 1: I want every ring doorbell comes a residential area. You
30:52
Speaker 1: don't think everybody doesn't have a ring or something like
30:55
Speaker 1: a ring doorbell, right, Remember how that cracked the Molly
30:58
Speaker 1: Tibbott's case. Absolutely wonderful. Young Coe goes jogging. Ultimately I
31:07
Speaker 1: believe it was a ring doorbell cam cease her going by.
31:11
Speaker 1: But then they also see a car going by, coming back,
31:15
Speaker 1: going by, coming back, and that car had unusual markings
31:21
Speaker 1: I think, like scrapes on it. That's how that car
31:25
Speaker 1: was found and the person's driving the car number one
31:29
Speaker 1: suspect in her murder. Okay, so there you go. One
31:32
Speaker 1: more thing I want, Nancy, is anybody with a lift
31:35
Speaker 1: or an Uber pickup in that Vifinity. So what I
31:39
Speaker 1: want to know is about the ring doorbells. I want
31:44
Speaker 1: to find out about home security surveillance, another thing to
31:51
Speaker 1: that area. Out to you, Gwen gab this is Alexis's brother.
31:56
Speaker 1: We've been covering in Casey Alex Murdock case who says
32:00
Speaker 1: he was shot on a rural road where there is
32:02
Speaker 1: no cameras. And my question was when you turn onto
32:06
Speaker 1: that road, what said the intersection? Turns out there's a
32:08
Speaker 1: Baptist church there with a camera. Were there any businesses
32:15
Speaker 1: anywhere near that subdivision that could catch people coming in
32:21
Speaker 1: and out? Gwyn? Do you know from my understanding sort
32:27
Speaker 1: of one side of the street there aren't any cameras
32:31
Speaker 1: coming in there, and on the other side there are.
32:34
Speaker 1: To me, that means yes, Gwyn, sort of that's a yes.
32:38
Speaker 1: I don't care where the camera is. If there's a camera,
32:40
Speaker 1: I want to see it. So, if she drove the car,
32:45
Speaker 1: what evidence would be looking for. If she did not
32:48
Speaker 1: drive the car, that means she's somewhere else. Was there
32:52
Speaker 1: a car jack? What do we know to you, Amanda Kitana?
32:56
Speaker 1: Did she make it to the boyfriend's house? We believe
33:00
Speaker 1: so from you know, in talking to the family and
33:03
Speaker 1: what little information police have put out, we believe that
33:06
Speaker 1: she did go to the boyfriend's house. Okay, Mark Class Founder,
33:10
Speaker 1: Class Kids Foundation. What do we need to do now? Well,
33:14
Speaker 1: we have to understand the law enforcement is keeping this
33:16
Speaker 1: investigation very very close and they are not releasing a
33:20
Speaker 1: lot of information. Is as we're finding out here and
33:24
Speaker 1: what has to happen now is they have to be
33:27
Speaker 1: left to do this investigation and we have to continue
33:31
Speaker 1: with the searches on a weekly basis, hopefully on a
33:34
Speaker 1: weekly basis, so that we can work together to bring
33:38
Speaker 1: this to a conclusion. As was mentioned about Antioch and Oakley,
33:43
Speaker 1: it's a suburban area, but it's it's a remote suburban area,
33:48
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of open land. It's a beautiful,
33:51
Speaker 1: beautiful terrain, but a lot of it's open. So, you know,
33:55
Speaker 1: the opportunities to do something with a missing body, and
33:59
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that example. We're looking for our many and
34:04
Speaker 1: varied so you know, we've all got our work cut
34:07
Speaker 1: out for us to assign good searches and to get
34:11
Speaker 1: our wonderful volunteers and there have been hundreds of them,
34:14
Speaker 1: and we hope they'll keep coming back to search for
34:18
Speaker 1: this girl until this case is concluded, and hopefully that
34:22
Speaker 1: will be sooner rather than later. We know for a
34:24
Speaker 1: fact she did make it to the boyfriend's house. I
34:28
Speaker 1: know that for a fact, and this is how I
34:30
Speaker 1: know it. Take a listen our cut six our friency
34:32
Speaker 1: k in fourth Tuesday afternoon, Anioch Police removed several March
34:37
Speaker 1: bags from this home on ben Tree Way as part
34:40
Speaker 1: of a search warrant execution. The home is believed to
34:43
Speaker 1: belong to the ex boyfriend of twenty four year old
34:46
Speaker 1: Alexis Gabe. It was also the last place she was
34:49
Speaker 1: reportedly seen. A statement was made by her ex boyfriend
34:53
Speaker 1: that she was at his house until nine pm on
34:57
Speaker 1: Wednesday night and after that she did not return home. Yes,
35:05
Speaker 1: the police have questioned him more than once and have
35:09
Speaker 1: taken his statement. We are not in contact with him,
35:15
Speaker 1: so we don't know any other information regarding the ex boyfriend.
35:20
Speaker 1: Among some of the items removed by investigators from that
35:23
Speaker 1: home on Tuesday was a vacuum cleaner. Investigators hope the
35:27
Speaker 1: items can provide answers on where they can find Gabe,
35:31
Speaker 1: who was last seen on Wednesday. The very next day,
35:34
Speaker 1: her car found abandoned with the key still inside of
35:37
Speaker 1: the ignition. Amanda Kingtana KATV. How far from the boyfriend's
35:43
Speaker 1: place was Alexis car found? Not far, But like I
35:48
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, his place is in Antioch and her car
35:53
Speaker 1: was found in Oakley, so different cities. And again you know,
35:57
Speaker 1: a random street, so her car's not near that apartment.
36:02
Speaker 1: It's about five miles. Five miles, is that Morgan? Yes,
36:07
Speaker 1: five miles. It may be in a different town, but
36:10
Speaker 1: it's five miles. As the crows lies, that's not very far.
36:15
Speaker 1: Mark Class, have you ever gone into a place and
36:18
Speaker 1: you can see on the carpet where they just vacuumed?
36:21
Speaker 1: You see the strips going back and forth. But you
36:24
Speaker 1: love that when you go to a crime say make
36:26
Speaker 1: you wonder why they vacuum? It does make you wonder
36:29
Speaker 1: why they vacuum by I believe that law enforcement is
36:34
Speaker 1: probably onto something here. Like I say, they're keeping this
36:38
Speaker 1: very very close, and the vacuum cleaner and other items
36:42
Speaker 1: taken out of the house may prove very fruitful. I mean,
36:45
Speaker 1: we have a situation where this guy claims that she
36:48
Speaker 1: left at nine o'clock, and as Cheryl had mentioned about
36:50
Speaker 1: the vehicle and about the phone, where do they diverge?
36:54
Speaker 1: When did her phone go off? Tim that against the
36:58
Speaker 1: nine o'clock moment that he said she left. I think
37:02
Speaker 1: I think interesting things will be found out. You know,
37:05
Speaker 1: Karen start joining me, new York psychologist joining us from Manhattan.
37:09
Speaker 1: I always refer back to Mark Class, who happens to
37:11
Speaker 1: be with us today, when somebody goes missing, I expect
37:16
Speaker 1: the family, the loved ones, to do what he did. Here,
37:22
Speaker 1: I just opened my door, coop, come on in, look
37:25
Speaker 1: wherever you want to. Can you take my DNA, Please
37:29
Speaker 1: take my fingerprints, my saliva. Here's my cell phone. Here's
37:33
Speaker 1: my laptop. Here, here's my iPad, here whatever you want
37:37
Speaker 1: my car, Here are the keys, here's the key to
37:40
Speaker 1: my office. Just could you please hurry so you can
37:45
Speaker 1: get past me and find who took Alexis. That's what
37:50
Speaker 1: I would expect, would you, Karen Stark? Well, yeah, of
37:53
Speaker 1: course you wouldn't answer, But you'd also be suspicious if
37:57
Speaker 1: somebody didn't do that, because why not. Why wouldn't you
38:01
Speaker 1: want to be like Mark up said, look, get me
38:03
Speaker 1: out of the way. The first thing you did, the
38:06
Speaker 1: first thing you did exactly when we all know that story.
38:09
Speaker 1: I mean, Mark was incredible at heartbreaking. But here it
38:13
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, No, it doesn't. Cheryl McCallan, did you
38:17
Speaker 1: hear that the search was pursued to search warrant? I did,
38:20
Speaker 1: And also it don'ed on me that that was a
38:24
Speaker 1: very Nancy Grace move. Taking the entire vacuum cleanerp and
38:30
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely and to break your whole band and the
38:33
Speaker 1: dust rag. And whether they're looking for hair or broken glass,
38:37
Speaker 1: there's something significant. They know, they know they needed the
38:41
Speaker 1: whole machine. Here's the problem with Cheryl. She would rightfully
38:45
Speaker 1: have been there. So if you find her hair, her
38:48
Speaker 1: fib or her DNA, it can be arguable. Of course
38:52
Speaker 1: it's here because she's here all the time, because this
38:54
Speaker 1: is her boyfriend. Was this her Amanda Keetana, her boyfriend
38:59
Speaker 1: or her ex boyfriend from what the family has told
39:02
Speaker 1: me ex boyfriend. Hey, Nancy, I gotta jump in jump
39:07
Speaker 1: at this point. Again, her hair might belong there, but
39:12
Speaker 1: inside a brand new vacuum cleaner back and he's gonna
39:16
Speaker 1: vacuum after she leaves. Again, that's just it may be cucumstantial,
39:20
Speaker 1: but it's pretty good. And especially that if it is
39:22
Speaker 1: hair or something like that, if it's with bloody glass
39:25
Speaker 1: or something else, that's going to be significant. I think
39:28
Speaker 1: at this point we need canines, we need drones, because
39:32
Speaker 1: I read that he has not participated in the searches.
39:36
Speaker 1: So here you have Mark Class telling you I begged
39:40
Speaker 1: the FBI for help, and here this person that dated
39:44
Speaker 1: her for three years has not even helped look for her.
39:48
Speaker 1: I wonder, Wendy Pasta, if that was an ex boyfriend,
39:51
Speaker 1: why was she going over there anyway? Was she lord there?
39:56
Speaker 1: Did she had to go pick something up? Were they
39:59
Speaker 1: getting back together? I mean, I'm just curious, Wendy Pastrick.
40:02
Speaker 1: I'm also curious about that car. If the apartment had
40:05
Speaker 1: just been vacuumed, had the car been wiped down. It's
40:08
Speaker 1: not just what you said, but what you can't find
40:11
Speaker 1: that matters. It's true, and what you can't find is
40:14
Speaker 1: going to be what happens at night. And so if
40:16
Speaker 1: she supposedly left at nine pm, you may have less
40:19
Speaker 1: ring camera video to work with. It may be grainier,
40:23
Speaker 1: there may be less people that were around who have
40:25
Speaker 1: seen anything suspicious. And you know, it's ironic. We've been
40:28
Speaker 1: talking about this gorgeous landscape in this area that just
40:31
Speaker 1: provides more opportunity to hide a body, which is why
40:34
Speaker 1: Mark Class and others are just such a hero going
40:37
Speaker 1: forward in these volunteers that have been searching. But you're right,
40:40
Speaker 1: there was less to work with if she left at
40:42
Speaker 1: nine o'clock, that, my prediction, is going to become an
40:44
Speaker 1: important piece of evidence. Thank for all we know what.
40:47
Speaker 1: I have seen a case like this where a nurse
40:49
Speaker 1: got off duty late at night and she was spotted
40:53
Speaker 1: at a red light by a couple of guys that
40:55
Speaker 1: didn't even know hard never seen her, and they kidnapped her.
41:00
Speaker 1: Is not anyone connected to her? To Gwynn Gabe, what
41:06
Speaker 1: is your message to your sister right now that my
41:11
Speaker 1: family missus her. I think about her every night, every morning.
41:18
Speaker 1: We're going to find her and mister stay strong, Morgan
41:23
Speaker 1: strn failed. What is your message today? I guess just
41:28
Speaker 1: a big thank you to all of the continued support
41:31
Speaker 1: from everyone in keeping her story in her face out
41:35
Speaker 1: there that helps us keep traction and pressure on the
41:39
Speaker 1: case itself because we still don't have any answers. Our
41:44
Speaker 1: prayers are with her mother, Rowena and Gwen, her brother
41:50
Speaker 1: Morgan helping to search desperately, her little brother, and all
41:57
Speaker 1: the searchers that are looking for Alexis. Please go to
42:01
Speaker 1: Facebook to help bring Alexis Gabe home. The tip line
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Speaker 1: is nine two five six two five eight zero six zero.
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Speaker 1: Please help Alexis family bring her home. Nancy Grace Crime
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Speaker 1: Story signing off, Goodbye friend,