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054 - Working space consciousness w/ Travis Wendt · Here's to You

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  of Here's to You, the podcast where we bring cool people to
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  share their cool stories with you.
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  Yes, and we have someone that we've met completely by
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  accident, which is why it's even better.
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  Exactly. This weird person every time I
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  say weird, it's a compliment I. Actually would define myself as
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  probably one of the weirdest individuals I've ever met.
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  OK, OK, OK. We handed him a cocktail.
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  He walked in wearing full Naruto drip and two hours later we were
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  deep in conversation about society, creativity, Tokyo
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  economics, anime mindset, a little bit of scary stuff and
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  some philosophy. He builds computers.
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  He used to record rappers. He works in real estate.
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  He thinks deeply about the world and is one of the kindest humans
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  we've ever randomly stumbled into in this building.
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  Just kidding, Ben. Maybe, maybe you that's.
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  Very sweet thank. You a thinker, a nerd and
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  meaning maker, Travis. Why?
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  Thank you. That was a huge excellent intro.
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  I appreciate that. Yeah, of course.
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  Yeah, I'm really good at these now.
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  I used to be really bad and my transitions are not good though.
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  You'll get there. That just leaves room for
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  something to grow on. Yeah, yeah, I I have growth
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  there. But also I think I think they're
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  fun that I don't know or I don't remember how to transition
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  stuff. So I think that's even better.
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  But why Naruto? What's your favorite Naruto
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  quote? Because I know that you have
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  some, you have to have some. Oh gosh, I pulled one in case
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  you don't have one. Why Naruto?
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  Because of his ninja way. His ninja way.
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  It's a ninja way. Well, his ninja way.
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  OK, what define what does that? So his ninja way is no matter
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  what. And I know that's a real common
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  theme in anime and that's actually what got me into anime
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  is, is just the mindset and attitude.
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  But his thing is he won't he can't, he won't stop.
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  He's going to be Hokage no matter what.
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  And that's his ninja way. So he's he's the determination
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  is why one number itself? OK, would you say that you have
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  a ninja way like your own? So yeah.
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  OK, what is it? No, I mean that is it.
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  That is it. Yeah, I don't know how.
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  I don't know. There quit quitting is not an
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  option. I'm too stubborn for all that.
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  OK, yeah. So there's a There's a fine line
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  between stubbornness and determination, right?
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  I'm sure there is. Yeah.
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  Have you found it? Yeah.
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  Have you found it? OK.
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  That's what I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask if you found it
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  yet. What we just say is like the
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  thing that you're like, I'm so proud that I'm still very
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  stubborn with this. And then maybe something that
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  you're like, I probably should have let this one go a long time
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  ago, but it took me a minute. Oh, those, those I don't, I
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  don't recollect. Oh, OK.
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  Yeah, those are. Yeah, no, but yeah.
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  So I say that loosely being when with stubbornness is more just
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  basically determination, right? No, Yeah, but it's it's about
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  picking your battles is what it comes down to.
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  So you pick your battles and especially in professionalism in
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  life, not there's so many times you just you know, like screw
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  this, you know, I'm I don't like this is not what I want.
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  It's not. But if you have a like a
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  definiteness of purpose and you have a true why as to what where
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  you're going, then then being stubborn in that regard is what
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  I'm referring to. Yeah, yeah.
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  What would you say is your, well, the ninja way, That's what
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  you're saying. That's what you're saying is
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  your why? OK.
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  Like that's what you're pretty much.
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  Yeah. OK, Ninja.
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  Way is your. Why?
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  OK, that, but that's your why? That's your purpose, or you
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  haven't, Or what would you say is yours?
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  That is the like introduction to it.
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  The purpose is not quitting is a big part of it, right?
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  Just just determination to to see something through.
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  My why is is a lot of it's curiosity, but a lot of it is
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  also, you know, my son, He's that's what I do pretty much
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  everything for. Yeah.
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  Is the next generation and and and some to try to get back as
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  much as possible not just to him to but just to the universe.
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  Yeah, yeah, you said universe. Would you say you're more
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  religious or more spiritual? I would say a good mix of both.
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  OK. Because I, I think religion is
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  good and bad, you know, like it's just like all things in
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  this universe, you know, like it's how you use it.
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  It's how it's welded, wielded more than what it is.
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  You know, the best examples always like the atom, right?
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  Adam can blow up a whole city or it can be used to power an
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  entire nation. That's what you do with it that
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  matters. So.
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  But spirituality is something I was raised on and is a big part
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  of my life. I was actually just talking to a
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  friend of mine about this. Like how I think like certain
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  religious stuff, some people will weaponize and but also it's
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  like like people who are very religious, I will want to have
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  respect for whoever and whatever your belief is, But people who
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  are very religious, if I, I feel like sometimes it's like they
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  don't have multiple things that they're learning and gravitating
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  from and like also pulling from to know what they're when and
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  where. Like I might have to do
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  something more over here versus like talking more.
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  What is God's will? What is this will if they don't
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  have one and they only do anything religious only like in
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  terms of like Bible stuff, I'm like I I I'm a little more
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  skeptical of their beliefs because it doesn't it it feels
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  almost like they have man, this is gonna get me cancelled.
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  You went straight into religion. The jump and I was like, OK,
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  this is where we're. Going I wasn't going to let.
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  Me let me help you out here. I wasn't going to, but it let
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  me. Throw you a lifeline.
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  So I will say a lot of people who are very biblical, it's I
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  would love to ask them about how much of the Bible have they
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  actually read? That's always where I would
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  start because it's a tool. It can't be used.
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  It can't be used for negative just like I was saying like, and
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  there's a lot of you know, that's it's and I what you're
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  saying is I don't it's not God. Only God can judge us.
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  Yeah. So it's not for us to do.
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  I look at someone that you come across like that and you see
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  them that that's just where they are in their journey.
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  So I don't if you can understand it, then you can see it for what
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  it is and you don't, it doesn't affect you the same way.
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  It's not personal. You see it as that's where they
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  are and what they need to like what they're trying to.
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  Because once you experience that part of who you are, then it
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  gives you the opportunity to grow into more.
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  But if you haven't exercised some of that, some of us, I feel
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  like everybody's born that way. You know, we got to get stuff
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  out of our system. Sometimes by slowing it down, it
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  actually prolongs it. Sometimes you just got to go all
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  the way. And that's where they are on
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  their journey. Yeah.
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  Now I'm a big fan of the Bible. I'm a big fan of.
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  I grew up. This is so you want to, you
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  know, we opened up with how weird I am.
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  Yeah. Let's.
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  Start with that. When my mother used to take
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  that, I think one of the first things I ever read was Genesis.
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  Wow, I thought that was the coolest thing.
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  How old? Are you like?
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  Seven. OK.
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  I thought this was like, dude, it's right here.
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  Yeah. Like I have these questions.
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  I don't know about you. If it's a boy, a girl thing, a
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  young thing. What?
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  But when I was a kid, I'm like, where did we come from?
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  What are we doing? Here, what's the point?
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  I do think everyone has those questions.
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  I. Found Genesis.
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  I'm like, duh, dude, it's right here.
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  Yeah. Like all the.
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  Answers are like, you guys are giving me all this BS run
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  around. It's right here, you know, so,
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  but you know, I just thought it was fascinating.
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  And then you can get really, really deep, deep with it.
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  But you know, I'm also a huge fan of, you know, the gospels
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  then just the positivity that's written in a lot of the quotes
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  and comments in there. But the weirdness was when I was
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  a kid and my mom, we love to take my garage salary and I was
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  always on a mission looking for two things.
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  Bibles. And.
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  Calculators. You are so weird dude.
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  Nerd. That is a.
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  Hella nerd, but it's it's it's like, it's like a Sheldon, a
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  little bit of Sheldon with the calculator, but also not Sheldon
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  at all with the Bible. Like how?
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  Opposite are those two things They're.
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  Very opposite, like you're. A man of numbers, but a man of
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  of. Higher power and believe in
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  because it really comes down to yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, which I do. I like leaving a lot of room
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  open for possibility. Like I do like I said, I'll you
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  you take what you want from something.
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  But like if if I one thing I don't do or don't like is like a
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  limiting belief, something that says like this is the ceiling
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  the fixed. Mindset, yeah.
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  I don't, I don't appreciate that.
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  Well, I should say I don't appreciate that, but I just it,
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  it's not for me. And so when I look at these
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  things, I, if there is something in there that is a very limiting
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  mindset, I remind myself that this too was man made.
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  This is also something from a human who has his own
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  limitations. So it's not going to be
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  everything perfect. But what the gospels dive into
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  the most and what I think most of what the teachings of Jesus
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  is, is that God is it within. And so that's that's an
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  individual journey for all of us at that point.
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  So it's we can try to, you know, and it's a beautiful thing to
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  share that with people and for everybody of like mind to, you
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  know, use that as a way to come together and to create community
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  behind it. Yeah.
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  Now, but when you leverage that for some kind of form of control
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  over people, that's where you that's that's a slippery slope
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  in religion is like historically been used that way.
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  Yeah. So.
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  But we avoid that. Here.
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  I mean, my, my universe is my reality.
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  And you know, I just. Oh, I like that.
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  So I see like you would say, like it's like, yeah, the way
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  that you're going back to what you just said, Jesus is in me.
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  So it's almost like you're saying universe is in me and
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  this is my reality, this is my universe.
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  And if and what I'm experiencing on a very weird or not weird on
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  a yeah, weird, but on a rock that is spinning amongst a lot
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  of crazy things. So this is my only experience
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  right now. And then at the same time, I'm
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  in this spinning rock. So it also doesn't matter.
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  Yes. You know, you know what I mean?
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  Like the fine line between both of it.
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  Yeah, both of those things. Well, I.
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  Think all things matter, but not in a cosmic sense.
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  I mean, we are literally dust in the wind, Yeah, like like a a
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  speck of dust. And throughout the history of
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  all things that are, So what does it matter?
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  Even everybody who spends their entire life for lineage
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  obsessing over like being remembered historically, that's
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  still not even a blink in the eye of the universe or in God or
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  or whatever. It's just, it's such a such a
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  small window, isn't it? Crazy it's to think of things
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  like that. And and then, you know, well, I
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  don't think it's crazy to think of things like that.
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  I think it's crazy in perspective, but to not think of
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  things like that is crazy because we are very good at
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  getting lost and blinded to a situation or circumstance and
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  act like that's everything and this will last forever.
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  But. That's it, Nick, That's such an
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  idiocy. That's a.
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  Fixed mindset, yeah, like. I mean, this too shall pass,
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  right? And that's for good or bad.
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  But. That's true, right?
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  So. Like you just remember when
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  something good ends, just appreciate that you had it and
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  be grateful that you had it rather than upset that you lost
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  it or it no longer is. But what I mean is to not think
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  like that is just don't get caught up in the little stuff
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  like and everything that we consider as big is and that and
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  that scale is tiny, yeah. Like boycotting Chick-fil-A and
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  Target? Yeah.
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  Not liking Pickles, man, not. Liking Pickles?
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  Do you guys like Pickles? Right, let's.
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  Put some. Comments in the.
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  Yeah, what was? What were the pickle stuff
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  again? I.
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  Don't like my cucumbers pickled? I don't.
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  Like them either? I like the cucumbers.
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  Cucumbery only, not pickly. Y'all are tripping man.
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  But like I said, see those are those, I mean borderline.
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  That's where I I draw the line, I was to say.
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  Borderline. Limited mindset man like.
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  Like I said, I do like. Weaponize.
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  I do enjoy why. Do you got to be one or the
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  other? This is you know, they both are
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  beautiful in their own way. I'm.
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  Passionate. Passionately against Pickles.
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  Yeah, that's. Why?
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  A passion is what I wouldn't say I'm.
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  Passionate about like about any sort of Pickles.
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  I enjoy them in Spears in. Spears.
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  What? Why would you say the spear?
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  When you're saying Spears, you're saying the long ones,
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  right? Quarter, right?
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  Yeah. The Spears quarter.
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  Why? Would why do you like those over
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  the just I imagine the the round, yeah.
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  Ones, yeah, it tastes better to me that.
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  Would you say that totally different?
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  Really. Absolutely.
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  Different. Oh, something.
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  About like how much the vinegar penetrates or something, I don't
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  know, but but like a spear is a spear is like, I mean like I
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  said, if it's like a. Snack Fleshy, Juicy.
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  But I like the fleshy. Juicy, yeah.
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  I like Pickles on. Sandwiches on burgers.
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  Like a tomato. Pickle on a burger?
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  Like, I think that's wild. Say that again.
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  If you don't put a pickle. On a burger that's.
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  Disgusting. That's wild.
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  To me, OK. No, I just, I don't like them
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  Pickle onion. The Midwest trio.
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  No, there's a. Such thing as too many there is.
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  Such a thing as too many, of course, right?
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  What's the perfect ratio? Burger like 3 SpongeBob did 2
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  for me. It's. 2C SpongeBob was smart
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  SpongeBob. Did 2 and then he puts a little
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  blanket over a cheese could help.
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  A bunch of burgers he did. He kept that.
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  Business afloat. He knew what?
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  He was doing. He knew.
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  What he was doing, like SpongeBob is an icon, he's a
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  legend. He is the moment.
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  Like we quote SpongeBob a lot here.
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  I like it. Do you like SpongeBob?
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  Can't. Say I'm extremely schooled in
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  SpongeBob, but I do enjoy it. I was a little bit older than
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  SpongeBob and my son is a little bit younger than SpongeBob, so
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  oh. Yeah, OK, That was SpongeBob.
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  I know, I reckon. My favorite, my favorite
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  character was so I remember I watched the SpongeBob when I
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  was, you know, when it was new. I'm like, I don't know about
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  this, right. You know how old?
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  Were you, I mean? Probably my 20s.
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  Oh. Well, that makes sense.
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  Yeah. You know.
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  But I'm I'm. Actually they're but they're
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  funnier as you get older. Yeah, OK, so but.
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  Then I saw one and it was an episode where What's the
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  squirrel from Texas, Sandy. It's.
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  Sandy so well, all the characters are really well done.
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  I will give them that. Great character development,
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  great character. Development.
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  So Immaculate vibes. So I don't like this was there
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  is it was part of a laid out plan, but SpongeBob started
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  disrespecting Texas. Oh yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. Sandy.
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  And you just see them running like, and the background's
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  moving like a 1,000,000 miles an hour.
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  And this hand comes from like 10,000 miles away and just picks
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  him up. And then he just see him
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  disappear in the distance. And this mushroom cloud just I
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  was dying. Have you ever met a dude from
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  Texas or a guy from Texas? You know why that's so fun?
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  Don't mess with Texas. It's.
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  That's what I'm saying. Like I feel like as you get
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  older, I was. Like OK, I'm I see the.
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  Hype. I get this.
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  I want to I could dive in. Deeper on this, yeah.
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  There's there's a lot of hype. I think my favorite episode of
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  SpongeBob is the one where they're on the Flying Dutchman
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  boat and they're learning how to be ghosts.
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  Patrick and SpongeBob and the Flying Dutchman.
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  So you haven't gone in, right. So he's like, you know, the
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  ghost of under the ghost of Bikini Bottom.
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  And, and so he they, they end up getting on his ship and they
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  have to be his, his, his trusty people on the boat.
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  Like they have to like do everything on the ship.
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  I mean, and so there's just a lot of moments where they're
• 19:51
  being fucking stupid, like they're being SpongeBob and
• 19:53
  Patrick. And then there's the moment
• 19:56
  where like they have to take the ship through some rocks.
• 20:00
  And there and then, like Patrick is searing and SpongeBob is
• 20:03
  keeping an eye. And then he's like, you're good,
• 20:06
  you're good, you're good. And then all you hear is like,
• 20:09
  and then you also just see like the ship falling apart, going
• 20:12
  through the rocks and it's like, and it's like and then, and.
• 20:17
  Then they can. Make it out and then SpongeBob.
• 20:19
  Don't worry, Captain, we'll buff out those scratches.
• 20:24
  I quote that all the time. Well.
• 20:26
  That's a good. Quote.
• 20:27
  That's one I will hold on to. It's a.
• 20:28
  Good quote. It's a good quote 'cause it it
• 20:30
  works with everything when I fuck up.
• 20:32
  Don't worry captain, I'll buff out those scratches.
• 20:34
  I like it. What other cartoons or anime?
• 20:40
  Anime. Recently solo levelling.
• 20:43
  Totally got into that dude. I couldn't stop watching it.
• 20:45
  Don't you? Seriously.
• 20:46
  You didn't like it? When he gave a.
• 20:49
  Big thumbs. Down.
• 20:50
  With. A thumbs down.
• 20:51
  Oh. Corey, what are the thoughts on
• 20:52
  this? Miked up Corey.
• 20:56
  Miked up Corey, it's overrated. I What's it about?
• 21:02
  It's basically like a cartoon of an RPG, like so like he's like
• 21:07
  he's the weakest hunter in all of hunting for. 15 minutes,
• 21:13
  yeah. And then he dies.
• 21:15
  Well, I don't want to ruin it for everybody, but he's chosen
• 21:18
  and then he's a badass after that.
• 21:20
  OK. And that's that's I mean, I
• 21:22
  don't know why it just I don't know what it is, but it sucked
• 21:24
  you in. Why?
• 21:26
  Did you say you're not into attack on Titans?
• 21:28
  And why did you say it was bad? I've never I I feel like that
• 21:32
  was boring. I think is everybody boring?
• 21:33
  I got bored really fast. Within one season, I was.
• 21:38
  Like I can see that a little bit, I don't.
• 21:40
  Honestly, it just, you know, I don't, I can't.
• 21:43
  I don't have it. What?
• 21:44
  What? Season did you stop at oh I.
• 21:46
  Didn't make it through the first one.
• 21:47
  You didn't. Make it through the first one
• 21:48
  OK, it's boring. I mean, I and The thing is, is I
• 21:53
  tried retried it from the beginning and maybe that was
• 21:55
  part of the problem. I'd already seen like these
• 21:57
  once, but I, you know, I don't know.
• 21:59
  So what else if you say? Attack on Titan, Yeah, but I've
• 22:03
  probably only seen one episode. What?
• 22:05
  OK, the reason I'm saying what, and I'm appalled is because like
• 22:09
  you're saying that you're a very deep and like you're curious
• 22:13
  about like what is happening and like man, like every season and,
• 22:18
  and it is kind of in the beginning, like I feel like
• 22:20
  every season you begin to finally get more pieces of the
• 22:23
  history And it's, it's almost like backwards.
• 22:27
  It's like kind of in the future, but also in history, but also in
• 22:30
  present. And so the first season you're
• 22:34
  just kind of like, OK, these things are bad, this is
• 22:37
  happening, blah, blah. Second season, suddenly it's
• 22:40
  like, what the fuck is this? Is this like I'm in a different
• 22:45
  story? And, and in a way.
• 22:48
  And at least that's how I felt. And I was just like, 'cause I
• 22:52
  start, I remember I started it a long time ago too.
• 22:54
  Then I stopped it and then I went back to finish it 'cause I
• 22:57
  was waiting on the seasons to, to finish and 'cause I'm a binge
• 23:01
  watcher and I want them all at the same time.
• 23:05
  And, and I, I was like, I remember like going like, well,
• 23:10
  what the heck did I miss? Like I'm so confused.
• 23:12
  And I had like, I'm going straight to fandom and I'm like,
• 23:15
  OK, what am I missing? And like, I'm constantly just
• 23:18
  like researching this, like what, what, why am I, who is
• 23:21
  this person? Who is this character?
• 23:22
  What, why am I getting all this spiel?
• 23:25
  But like it, it's like building all of this.
• 23:27
  And then there's, it's a dystopia type of anime, right?
• 23:32
  That where they're at and it's just real.
• 23:35
  The end. That's why I was hoping you did
• 23:38
  watch. I was hoping all of you watched
• 23:39
  it because the end, I think I it made me think a lot.
• 23:47
  It made me kind of go like, was he the villain in the end or was
• 23:52
  he one of those? OK.
• 23:54
  Yeah. Well, I mean, and that's, that
• 23:56
  is just like, I feel like that is the where we're living in
• 24:00
  society right now, like as a whole, I feel like us as like a
• 24:04
  human population are going through that exact like emotion.
• 24:08
  I mean, cause for the lat for the 20th century, it was very
• 24:12
  clear. It's very black and white, good
• 24:14
  guy, bad guy. And then something happened
• 24:17
  along the way where you're like, wait, we need to like, like you
• 24:21
  actually get to see a little bit of the background of the story
• 24:23
  of the bad guy and they're wise and what caused them to be that.
• 24:27
  And then you're like, now you feel now you're not like, now
• 24:31
  they're not the enemy anymore. And it's more like, OK, I
• 24:34
  understand, Like, why you're hurting, like, and what caused
• 24:36
  this conflict. Yeah.
• 24:38
  So. Doesn't that go back to almost
• 24:40
  like you're your own universe, Jesus is in you.
• 24:44
  You're you're experiencing your own little speck of this and
• 24:46
  you're still, you're experiencing somebody else's
• 24:50
  universe when you connect with them.
• 24:52
  Yeah. 1000 that's you know, I like that.
• 24:54
  I like that. I wouldn't say Jesus in you, I
• 24:56
  say, I would say whatever you're, you know, like you know,
• 25:00
  that's specific to each person. Like I said, when it is your own
• 25:02
  journey, it is your own journey. So like it's you know, whom or
• 25:05
  whatever you know, it is, is that's your journey.
• 25:08
  So yeah, but yeah, yeah. And that's, that's part of I
• 25:13
  think of like real human evolution is, is that you start
• 25:19
  to become that way. You know, I would.
• 25:21
  I mean, I wasn't always this person.
• 25:23
  Yeah. Yeah, you don't start off that
• 25:24
  way like as a kid. You're very like, it's me, me,
• 25:26
  mine, mine. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:27
  Yeah. And also it depends your
• 25:29
  environment, your parents? Yeah, of course.
• 25:32
  And brothers. Sisters, how much?
• 25:33
  Yeah. Who was your school?
• 25:36
  Everything. Who believed in you?
• 25:37
  Who didn't believe in you? What makes you?
• 25:40
  What is this epiphany moment that you start to where you're
• 25:45
  like, there is more to this that I need to look into people, I
• 25:49
  think. I was.
• 25:49
  It was how I was raised. I think a lot of that I can
• 25:52
  attribute to the like my my mother did a really good job of
• 25:56
  making me weird. Shout out Mom.
• 26:01
  Yeah. Yeah, thanks Mom, But in the
• 26:04
  best of ways possible, she would ask me questions that would just
• 26:07
  make me think instead of it wasn't surface level at all.
• 26:11
  She one of my favorite questions she asked me when I was little
• 26:15
  was like, is it better to know or is it better to understand?
• 26:19
  And it's like a 7 year old. You're like, that question
• 26:22
  lasted me like my entire childhood.
• 26:24
  You. Know.
• 26:25
  Because if you don't know it, how do you?
• 26:27
  You can't understand something if you don't even know it.
• 26:30
  But if you don't understand it, then what's the?
• 26:32
  Purpose of knowing it like. Yeah, like I know what's the?
• 26:35
  Reason for the self-awareness if you're not going to be able to
• 26:38
  do something with it. Is that a hypothetical question
• 26:45
  or was he actually asking me that?
• 26:47
  No, it's a. Hypothetical question yeah, OK
• 26:49
  yeah, well, like back word yeah word well, like back to what
• 26:54
  you're what do you feel like you have an answer for that now
• 26:56
  which. Part.
• 26:59
  Is it better to know something or is it better to understand
• 27:02
  I've? Always thought it would better
• 27:03
  understand 100%. I mean, I feel like that was
• 27:05
  kind of a but it does it does get you to think differently is
• 27:10
  what it did is it made me start to think differently than I, you
• 27:12
  know, when you would as a normal 7 year old, 8 year old, yeah.
• 27:16
  No. Yeah, that's fair.
• 27:19
  It sounds like your mom taught you how to think, not what to
• 27:23
  think. Yeah.
• 27:24
  Yeah, for sure on that. Some of it may have been
• 27:27
  natural, Some of it just might have been me.
• 27:28
  Because I mean you if you were to see me and my brother were.
• 27:32
  Probably polar. Opposites.
• 27:33
  And we were raised by the same two people, so, so, but she
• 27:36
  definitely was able to, you know, poke some of that and stir
• 27:40
  it up a little bit. So.
• 27:41
  And I ran with it, yeah. And you said that you would
• 27:44
  describe yourself as a very curious person.
• 27:46
  Oh, yeah. So like, oh, go ahead, I said.
• 27:50
  Endless. Endless.
• 27:51
  Yeah, the curiosity is. Endless.
• 27:53
  Yeah. OK, I'm trying to figure out how
• 27:57
  to ask this. Like I think me and therapy.
• 28:02
  Once Upon a time I used to maybe describe myself in a different
• 28:06
  way. I should describe myself as
• 28:08
  like, based on what have I, I've accomplished or the things that
• 28:12
  I've been able to do. I've, I've since then learned to
• 28:18
  describe myself through characteristics.
• 28:23
  Maybe like curiosity is one of the things that I describe
• 28:26
  myself like I would if someone asks, like if someone doing an
• 28:30
  intro for me, I, if they were like, and she opened this and
• 28:33
  she did that or, or you know what I mean, or she did this and
• 28:36
  that I would be like, I, I probably lead with my curiosity
• 28:42
  in everything that I'm doing. And I think that for me, that's
• 28:45
  a, we don't always look at curiosity as a value, but I look
• 28:49
  at curiosity as a value. I agree. 100.
• 28:52
  Percent, you know, and and then there are other things that are
• 28:54
  probably not like like relationships are not
• 29:01
  necessarily maybe I guess it could be about you.
• 29:03
  Like for me, my relationship with my family spiritually, I'm
• 29:07
  finally starting to do that. But like all relationships, not
• 29:10
  just we tend to look at relationships as only like 1
• 29:15
  romantic thing and not just even this connection right now.
• 29:21
  So I wanted to ask your relationship with curiosity,
• 29:25
  like what? At what point in your life are
• 29:27
  you like I'm leading with my curiosity.
• 29:31
  I'm I am a curious person. Is this the seven-year old
• 29:34
  again? Or even?
• 29:35
  Before that, OK, like one of my oldest memories.
• 29:39
  If I'm too bad, one of my oldest memories is I remember looking
• 29:43
  at a light switch, and when the switch went up, the light turned
• 29:48
  on. And that boggled my brain.
• 29:53
  Yeah. It wasn't just like that.
• 29:55
  It wasn't just like a known fact, Like, it was just an
• 29:57
  understood thing. I was like, I have to
• 29:59
  understand, like, how does that do that?
• 30:02
  Yeah. And I mean, I mean, I'm like
• 30:06
  hitting the light switch like this.
• 30:07
  That's how old I am. I don't know what age this is,
• 30:10
  but I just remember thinking this is that's just how my brain
• 30:12
  was wired, yeah. Yeah, I remember.
• 30:15
  Thinking that cars drove themselves, so we held the
• 30:17
  steering wheels to be comfortable.
• 30:19
  Hey. That's a cool thought though, I
• 30:22
  like it so we can hold on to. Something right?
• 30:25
  Yeah. Yeah, you can't just take a nap.
• 30:29
  I will say I did just buy a Tesla.
• 30:31
  Oh. And trader, yeah.
• 30:34
  It's not cool anymore. Say that it's not cool anymore.
• 30:36
  I think you're. Behind the time, like it went
• 30:38
  uncool and it's cool again. Is it?
• 30:40
  What? What year did you get 20?
• 30:41
  6 I think he's. Cancelled.
• 30:44
  I'm kidding. Dude, dude.
• 30:45
  Cancel culture's crazy. Yeah, I say that a lot.
• 30:47
  You know why? Because it's such a closed fix
• 30:49
  mindset, it is. Though I.
• 30:51
  Might I? I, I, I say these things
• 30:54
  jokingly, but like they're, yes, it's like we're, we just
• 31:01
  dehumanize people way too much. Absolutely.
• 31:03
  And that's. Why it's such a big thing?
• 31:05
  It's my favorite. Thing to do, it's your.
• 31:06
  Favorite thing to do, I mean. Dehumanize.
• 31:08
  People, but if. You can do it and laugh about
• 31:11
  it. It's a different thing, right?
• 31:12
  Like if we're doing it because I mean, to me, what you sound like
• 31:16
  is you sound like a sibling, like my brother.
• 31:18
  My brothers professionally have dehumanized me my entire life
• 31:21
  and we laugh our ass off. I'm also a.
• 31:22
  Big fan of shit boxes so. What's that a shit?
• 31:26
  Box like a Honda? Oh, OK.
• 31:29
  The ones that get stolen clapped out.
• 31:30
  Yeah, the. Ones that get stolen.
• 31:32
  Yeah. The one that like you parked it
• 31:34
  out and then like you had to walk.
• 31:35
  You walked outside and you're like, oh, shit, it's not here.
• 31:38
  Well, it happened again. I got two more.
• 31:40
  At the house. It's.
• 31:45
  Fine, No, I. Still think it's weird seeing a
• 31:47
  car drive by and hearing absolutely nothing and you go
• 31:50
  what? The.
• 31:51
  Fuck was that? Yeah.
• 31:53
  No, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm silent like you don't hear
• 31:56
  nothing like if silent but Dudley.
• 32:00
  Depends on. Depends on where's the fart.
• 32:01
  Sound when you need it, the name.
• 32:03
  Well. It's silent.
• 32:04
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:05
  Get in here. Yeah, All right, Just wait.
• 32:11
  So you're a. Tesla now, yes.
• 32:13
  It's the greatest thing ever. Why?
• 32:14
  Because I press a button and I'm on my way.
• 32:18
  I don't touch a thing. I put on my my audio books and
• 32:23
  I'm just chilling, you know, just like it takes right on red
• 32:28
  everything like I don't I don't do nothing like I think that's
• 32:30
  incredible. Have you guys?
• 32:31
  Seen the Waymos from San Francisco.
• 32:33
  Well, I think they're going to other cities now, but they are
• 32:36
  in San Francisco first. Yeah, the.
• 32:38
  Driverless. Cars.
• 32:39
  Yeah, they. Look like they look like
• 32:40
  something out Back to the Future with they do.
• 32:42
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Almost like a.
• 32:44
  Toaster, yeah. Yeah, I've, I've been in them a
• 32:47
  couple of times. They're actually pretty cool.
• 32:49
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're so.
• 32:50
  Interesting. I mean, they have, I think it's
• 32:53
  in Texas, maybe Dallas, because I, you know, that's where Tesla
• 32:57
  relocated to. They are allowed to be fully
• 33:00
  self driven unsupervised. So they have Tesla's the same
• 33:03
  thing that I have is like a, a self driving cab in Texas.
• 33:08
  So they're there, they're ready. They just have to slowly and you
• 33:11
  know, they got to work it up. And I mean, obviously you want,
• 33:15
  you know, anything on mass scale like that, you definitely want
• 33:18
  to test it a little bit before you just release it to them.
• 33:20
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:23
  But. No, I'm a fan.
• 33:24
  It does a great job. Which?
• 33:27
  Even like for long distance drive, so.
• 33:29
  That is, that is a. That's a.
• 33:31
  Downfall. Let me.
• 33:31
  Yeah, I agree. I agree.
• 33:34
  Some people would really appreciate it.
• 33:35
  My buddy who got one too, he likes it.
• 33:37
  And I mean, I, I appreciate his perspective on it.
• 33:39
  Where you know, you're gonna stop somewhere, you're gonna
• 33:41
  stop for 15 minutes, let it charge, you know, get a snack,
• 33:45
  use a restroom, whatever. By the time you're done kind of
• 33:47
  working out, you know, getting some blood flowing, you're ready
• 33:51
  to hit the road again, right where where I also have a, a, an
• 33:56
  Avalon, like a hybrid Avalon thing does.
• 33:59
  I mean, I, I, you know, I'm all about the fish shit, right.
• 34:01
  So over here. Like shout out.
• 34:02
  Toyota, yeah, for sure for. Sure.
• 34:04
  No, I used to sell. I mean, I used to sell, I used
• 34:06
  to sell cars and so Toyota was probably my favorite.
• 34:08
  I sold, but OK. But I mean, one tank of gas in
• 34:14
  that thing, even then it's it makes it like 500 miles and it's
• 34:17
  a 12 gallon tank. So that I mean, so you can hit
• 34:21
  anywhere with that. I mean, yeah.
• 34:22
  Yeah. And 12 gallons takes like 2
• 34:26
  minutes to fill up. You know, it's not a big, that's
• 34:28
  a tiny tank, so. Every time people say things
• 34:31
  like that to me, I don't. I don't really know what that
• 34:34
  means, but I'm just like, OK, but then I hear 500 miles.
• 34:37
  I'm like, OK, the distance from here to KC is 245 miles, so
• 34:41
  that's twice to KC, a little bit more than that KC.
• 34:44
  From here, Kansas City from here is like 180 miles.
• 34:46
  It's. Closer.
• 34:47
  Yeah, it's like a. 165 OK, I'm. Thinking dodge.
• 34:50
  Dodge is like 230. Yeah, that's.
• 34:52
  Where my camera? Is that sounds about right?
• 34:53
  Because. KC is like 2 1/2 to three hours
• 34:55
  and it's 80 miles an hour. That's why it's faster, yeah.
• 35:00
  So, so right. So yeah, you get there real
• 35:03
  quick and like you can actually go there and back and like you
• 35:06
  can almost make 3 trips. You can.
• 35:08
  Yeah, almost. What kind of Well, to Casey,
• 35:11
  Yeah, to. Casey to Casey.
• 35:12
  Not to dodge, no, only make back and back.
• 35:15
  Why do you? I mean, if you didn't have, I
• 35:17
  guess you have family in Dodge, but that's the only reason I've.
• 35:19
  Got a dodge? I was going.
• 35:21
  To ask the question why? What are you doing out there?
• 35:22
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:23
  What are you doing? I'm out there with the cows.
• 35:25
  Yeah, Dodge. Is literally just the spot where
• 35:27
  you're like, OK, I'm almost out. Oh no, you're telling me I, I
• 35:31
  told this to my so my family is very my dad is because he has
• 35:36
  his business there and I'm pretty sure he they would
• 35:38
  probably not ever leave. And he's always like and he's
• 35:41
  like, when are you coming back or whatever?
• 35:43
  And I'm like, it's not here, you know?
• 35:46
  Like I don't know when I'm 60 and I'm ready to settle down and
• 35:48
  have kids and dodge when I'm 60 and I'm ready to settle down and
• 35:53
  have kids. Well, no.
• 35:55
  That just goes back to my family. 60 for.
• 35:57
  For the starter family, yeah, I think.
• 35:58
  So if it works. Your first one.
• 36:01
  Is 60. Yeah.
• 36:03
  No, it's just a joke. It's just a joke.
• 36:06
  I sometimes, sometimes I'm like my sarcasm is too serious.
• 36:12
  I can't tell. I don't know if it's yeah.
• 36:15
  Yeah. Like what?
• 36:15
  I think it's your, like how you present it.
• 36:18
  Yeah, you're very. Yeah.
• 36:20
  Because it slid past me real quick.
• 36:22
  I'm like, hold on. Like it kind of did make me have
• 36:24
  to wait. 60 kids. You know, what I've, I think
• 36:26
  I've learned about myself is that like, I tend to like smile
• 36:29
  a lot naturally. And then when I become
• 36:32
  sarcastic, I go serious. And so then people are like.
• 36:36
  She's for real. Serious.
• 36:37
  And I'm like, no, no, chill, I say a lot of dumb shit.
• 36:45
  Why? Why?
• 36:45
  So serious. Yeah.
• 36:46
  Like how? How'd you get there?
• 36:49
  I like that you keep people under toes, yeah.
• 36:51
  That's. Excellent.
• 36:52
  Yeah. Be ready, stay ready.
• 36:54
  That's. What I'm saying don't get ready,
• 36:55
  stay ready, yeah. Exactly.
• 36:59
  We. Went all over with this and I'm
• 37:01
  like 543 and then the round and then Tesla's and it's like where
• 37:11
  were we? Where were we Pickles?
• 37:13
  Pickles that's. Where we were in, That's, yeah,
• 37:18
  Pickles. So it doesn't just have to be
• 37:20
  cucumber, right? Like, I mean, I like.
• 37:21
  Cucumbers. But I mean, like, pickled
• 37:24
  vegetables are incredible, yeah. I like, I like, like Chiles that
• 37:28
  are pickled, jalapenos that are pickled.
• 37:31
  I like. What are the like?
• 37:33
  Like the pepperoncinis on a sandwich.
• 37:35
  That's incredible, that. Pepperoncinis it's.
• 37:37
  Kind of like a banana pepper. Oh.
• 37:39
  OK. Yeah, that's like a little bit.
• 37:40
  Of that, that that sour bite. Yeah, I do.
• 37:43
  Like that? That's what you need, Yeah,
• 37:45
  Yeah. I do like that an.
• 37:46
  Italian with a. Little bit of.
• 37:49
  That on there. Yeah, I like, I like those.
• 37:53
  It's just I can't do the Pickles.
• 37:56
  I don't know what it is and and I've tried so like you know how
• 38:00
  Lays will do random flavors and they pickle flavored.
• 38:04
  Bag. Yeah, 'cause.
• 38:05
  I wanted to try it 'cause I was like, well, maybe if I don't
• 38:08
  like Pickles, the pickle, maybe I'll like pickle the flavor in a
• 38:13
  chip because I love chips. That was my logic.
• 38:15
  I feel like they did a. Great job with that sales like
• 38:18
  that marketing they did. Yeah, so I.
• 38:21
  Tried it, didn't like. It and I didn't.
• 38:23
  Like it? I almost threw up.
• 38:24
  Yeah, that. Sounds terrible.
• 38:25
  Honestly, the pickle flavored chips sounds awful.
• 38:27
  I don't like yeah, I mean salt, vinegar.
• 38:30
  If that's what you're going for. Just stick to the the original
• 38:33
  the. Original.
• 38:34
  What about? Fried Pickles.
• 38:37
  Absolutely I can. I can kind of get behind those.
• 38:40
  I'm thinking old Chicago I think has fried Pickles as long.
• 38:44
  As they're not the Spears, whoever fries a freaking spear
• 38:48
  and like that is that's that's the wrong kind of weird.
• 38:51
  That's the. Not the good kind of weird wait.
• 38:53
  Why? Why did we draw the line there?
• 38:55
  No, I. Don't know.
• 38:56
  Have you ever had? One.
• 38:57
  No, not the. Speared ones I've only had the.
• 38:58
  Like overkill? Yeah, you want a chip?
• 39:01
  Like you want a bread to vegetable.
• 39:04
  Ratio. Yeah, you.
• 39:05
  Want nice, you know, like something doesn't you want
• 39:08
  something to fry like that so. Yeah, I don't know if you're
• 39:12
  going. To go if you're going to.
• 39:14
  Go go, I forgot. Where I even had that such.
• 39:17
  The Spears, I remember the first time I was like ordered fried
• 39:19
  Pickles. And if they bring out Spears,
• 39:20
  you're like, what do I do with that?
• 39:22
  Like. They're like serial killers.
• 39:28
  That's. That's fair.
• 39:30
  That's fair. What are other things that make
• 39:33
  you think that people are serial killers?
• 39:34
  Like, you know, like the wearing socks when they go to bed.
• 39:39
  Yeah. I actually, you know what,
• 39:42
  within all of my realm of curiosity, I never really dove
• 39:46
  down that path. What makes people?
• 39:50
  I don't think I think the only thing that really makes a person
• 39:53
  a serial killer, a true serial killer is going to be like a
• 39:56
  genetic like like inbred like like you're I thought you were.
• 40:00
  Going to say at least three people.
• 40:02
  What is it? What do you mean like Like name
• 40:04
  a couple drop names? Oh.
• 40:07
  In the math makes your serial killer when you've mapped it OK.
• 40:14
  Right, yeah, 'cause what it 2 doesn't quite make that.
• 40:17
  No, that's a three. Just kill. 3.
• 40:19
  Yeah, just kill people. That two could still be like
• 40:22
  self-defense, an accident. Like, you know, it's not till
• 40:24
  you hit the three, it's not till.
• 40:25
  You hit the three that's. Where you make the documentaries
• 40:28
  about like were they really bad people or were they not the
• 40:31
  documentaries? Are 15 like we need?
• 40:34
  That's as I mean, well, some. Because like, OK Monsters season
• 40:38
  1 from Netflix, it's about the brothers who killed their
• 40:41
  parents and yeah, but wasn't. That that was, that's not a
• 40:45
  serial killer thing. That was like.
• 40:48
  Oh, that's true. You're right.
• 40:50
  So do you want some of my insight on like how I think
• 40:53
  would can I may I share my Yeah, I guess.
• 40:55
  Yeah, since you're here. Yeah, right.
• 40:57
  I guess why not so? I guess we invited Travis, So go
• 41:00
  ahead. Please share, Share away.
• 41:02
  All right. Cut us off.
• 41:03
  Yeah, Yeah, Allow me, you know, so.
• 41:08
  So what I would think about would be more or less like, what
• 41:12
  is the difference between a serial killer and a like a well,
• 41:20
  like someone in the like a military man who has lots of
• 41:24
  awards and accolades. Oh.
• 41:29
  I mean, they did the same thing. They both took lives.
• 41:34
  Yeah. Now, what's crazy to me is that
• 41:38
  one is promoted as a hero, Yeah. And the other one is literally
• 41:42
  in your war, is labeled a monster.
• 41:44
  Yeah. The result essentially the same
• 41:49
  the. Atomic bomb.
• 41:51
  Yeah, well, the atomic bomb was a mass murder.
• 41:53
  No, no. No, what I'm no what I'm saying
• 41:55
  what I'm saying with the atomic bomb when I say that.
• 41:58
  So I watched so genius National Geographic, they what who they
• 42:04
  call the masters or the greats, right.
• 42:06
  So they Season 1 is Albert Einstein, Season 2 is Picasso,
• 42:12
  Season 3, Aretha Franklin, Season 4, MLK.
• 42:15
  Yeah. Yeah, it was.
• 42:16
  I learned a lot. Anyways.
• 42:18
  I'm learning a lot. Yeah.
• 42:20
  It's been good. MLK and oh, my God, The leader
• 42:25
  of the Black Panthers. No, he's not the leader of the
• 42:27
  Black Panthers. The other guy anyways.
• 42:30
  Malcolm X Yeah. So season 5 is MLK and Malcolm X
• 42:35
  Yeah. Anyways, Albert Einstein, when
• 42:38
  he develops the atomic bomb, he does it for a different reason.
• 42:43
  And then he like, realizes, and This is why I asked this in the
• 42:46
  beginning, but then also you said it more eloquently, and
• 42:49
  I'll come back to that of what I meant there.
• 42:53
  He said he is, or at least the way that I was portrayed in the
• 42:57
  documentary show was that he realizes that he has the math
• 43:02
  for this mass weapon. Yeah, potential.
• 43:08
  And he is trying to get rid of it.
• 43:10
  He is trying to, like, hide it that he has this.
• 43:15
  And then because they he knows it's going to be used for mass
• 43:19
  murder, especially at the time that Albert Einstein is alive,
• 43:24
  'cause, you know, this is, I think this World War Two time.
• 43:27
  Yeah, yeah. And yeah, yeah.
• 43:30
  So I think like he dies with like that one being one of his
• 43:36
  biggest regrets of him, like with all the curiosity of the
• 43:39
  world that he has and he's wanting to get these answers.
• 43:42
  And the reason he like one of the reasons why he he figures
• 43:45
  out the math to make this thing is not for mass murder, but it's
• 43:50
  also I mean, his curiosity leads him down what it.
• 43:53
  Has because it can't power the world.
• 43:55
  You can use this energy. It's it can be used for
• 43:58
  destruction. Just all things, yeah.
• 44:00
  You know, and that's why he goes into this and then and so
• 44:03
  anyways, why was I going to this?
• 44:07
  To me that was connected because I mean it was like, is it better
• 44:10
  to know or is it better to understand and like he
• 44:14
  understood? That that was what this could,
• 44:17
  you know? Yeah.
• 44:18
  But. But he is what he what is
• 44:21
  considered one of the masters to like as in like this person.
• 44:24
  Yeah, I mean, and so so for him it because he's so determined
• 44:29
  and all of these masters and all of these shows to the seasons
• 44:32
  and others throughout history, you know, they're determined.
• 44:36
  They're they're chasing at this time.
• 44:38
  And also the word is greatness, but now probably doesn't land in
• 44:43
  the same way that it that it was for them then.
• 44:45
  So it's like they're chasing greatness, not power, but
• 44:50
  knowledge, growth, all these things.
• 44:54
  And to do that you have to sacrifice a lot.
• 44:58
  They were all very bad parents, very bad lovers there.
• 45:03
  All of them, all of them. We love, we love MLK.
• 45:06
  He was he was. Well, actually I haven't
• 45:09
  finished it. So not as bad, but a little bit
• 45:14
  and to the monster stuff a little bit, kind of it's like
• 45:22
  when, when do we draw the line of do we continue?
• 45:28
  Like when do we draw the line of like, this is something to raise
• 45:31
  up and and admire and this is something that is not.
• 45:36
  And I think to the serial killer stuff, maybe it's a little
• 45:39
  easier maybe because I think the people who get awards for, I
• 45:46
  mean, the way that they're described for getting these
• 45:48
  awards, it's not because of how many people they killed.
• 45:51
  They're like, they won. Yeah.
• 45:53
  Like a. Medal of Honor, you know?
• 45:54
  Yeah. Hope they.
• 45:55
  Completed the mission. Yeah, just so.
• 45:58
  How they had. To run through 20 people to do
• 45:59
  it right, Yeah. So preamble is, is that I'd man
• 46:02
  to make sure that when I bring that up or when I have these
• 46:05
  thoughts, they are not of judgment.
• 46:07
  Like I do not, you know, like and like all of our armed forces
• 46:10
  people out here. I'm not, yeah.
• 46:11
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 'cause. They, yeah, I mean.
• 46:14
  Yeah, don't cancel this yet, right, right.
• 46:16
  Yeah, just give us a little bit. We got plenty more to worry
• 46:18
  about, right? So, but my grandfather used to
• 46:22
  tell me who was in World War Two.
• 46:24
  He said he used to, he, he taught me a lot of weird stuff
• 46:27
  or he gave me a lot of weird little tidbits and I was picked
• 46:30
  up on like quotes and a couple from him.
• 46:32
  One of him was my, that it stuck with me and I didn't realize how
• 46:36
  powerful it was when I was again, you know, the single
• 46:39
  digit age. But he, he told me, he said you
• 46:43
  were going to have more in common with the person that
• 46:45
  you're pointing the rifle at than the person who told you to
• 46:47
  point the rifle. Oh.
• 46:50
  Yeah. And so and that's what he's very
• 46:53
  anti a very anti war, very anti conflict and understandably so.
• 46:59
  You know, I mean, like anybody who's experienced that that I'm
• 47:02
  aware of comes, you know, they're they're they come back
• 47:07
  and they need emotional and then you need that is not what we're
• 47:12
  here for. I I personally don't believe
• 47:14
  that we came to this earth to extend you to extinguish another
• 47:19
  person's like like journey and what what have you.
• 47:23
  And the only reason why we have a conflict, let's be honest, is
• 47:27
  that two people that neither of y'all have ever met or ever will
• 47:32
  know have like a similar desire of a certain one thing of a
• 47:37
  limited amount. So they are going to like so and
• 47:41
  they have. Power that they can.
• 47:43
  They have the authority to be able to exercise in mass
• 47:49
  multiple people to go chase this thing and I.
• 47:52
  Think of the of. The limiting, I think.
• 47:55
  What they have is an understanding.
• 47:58
  They understand. They don't know they understand
• 48:01
  how to. And how?
• 48:04
  To put all these right elements together and even create that
• 48:08
  conflict and being the person who is pointing rather than the
• 48:12
  person who's carrying and running in in the middle of it.
• 48:18
  Yeah, I was going to start with this one 'cause I was like
• 48:22
  thinking of Naruto quo tonight. I don't watch it.
• 48:25
  Yeah, give me. That quote you have to.
• 48:26
  And then and then so this reminded me of that was and I
• 48:31
  might say the person, the character's name wrong.
• 48:33
  So don't kill me, guys. He was like the quote was I was
• 48:39
  his enemy. Yet he's still he cried for me
• 48:44
  and it's Gar talking about Gara. Gara there.
• 48:49
  See, that's what I'm saying. I knew I was going to say wrong.
• 48:52
  Gara talking about how you know it's his character art
• 48:56
  development and how him and Arto were not allies in the
• 49:00
  beginning. No they.
• 49:01
  Were Gara was a beast yeah yeah, and season and the and the the
• 49:09
  first seasons when they were kids jump yeah, he was he was
• 49:12
  like the guy he was kind of like the scariest one by far yeah, he
• 49:16
  had he was he was that he was the monster.
• 49:19
  Yeah, straight monster. Yeah, take life.
• 49:22
  Yeah, shout. Out to Gara when Rockley finally
• 49:25
  take the weights off Dude dude. That.
• 49:27
  Was that was like when it like the first big moment in the show
• 49:30
  when he took when he takes off those you're like, oh,
• 49:34
  everybody's like, oh, OK, he's going.
• 49:35
  To take off his little 5. # weights.
• 49:36
  And I'm like, no, these things were like 2000 lbs on each leg.
• 49:40
  Yeah, epic, epic. So well done.
• 49:43
  Dude, that was a scene right there.
• 49:45
  Took down the building, Ding nearby taking off What?
• 49:47
  The weights on his legs. So I think it's time that we
• 49:50
  take off the headphones and break for a drink so that we can
• 49:56
  continue down this conversation. Damn, that was a good
• 49:59
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• 51:04
  Yeah, You're OK with all the jumping around, right?
• 51:07
  Yeah. OK, OK, good.
• 51:08
  Cool. Because we're going to continue
• 51:10
  jumping around. That's fine.
• 51:11
  OK, OK, OK, Alright. OK.
• 51:14
  I mean conversation. Is conversation, you know?
• 51:17
  I think this is a great conversation.
• 51:19
  Oh. I feel like we're just getting
• 51:21
  started. Yeah, we're, we're scratching
• 51:23
  the surface. We're buffing out the scratches,
• 51:26
  buffing up. From scratches, we're going to.
• 51:28
  Buff them out now in this next sequence.
• 51:33
  No segment. Welcome back to segment #2
• 51:48
  Appears to You, the podcast. We're sitting here with Travis.
• 51:52
  We've got our drinks poured. They've got orange peels in them
• 51:58
  just like we just picked them from an orange tree.
• 52:04
  I did. What did we?
• 52:05
  Make I. This morning I went out to my
• 52:08
  backyard and I went to my orange tree where it's next to the
• 52:13
  watermelons that I grew from Sydney's episode back in episode
• 52:16
  49. And I picked the freshest orange
• 52:20
  I could find just for Travis. He's actually having a mocktail,
• 52:26
  but because we do like alcohol, not that much, Dad.
• 52:40
  Does your dad not drink? No, it's just so he knows that
• 52:43
  I'm not an alcoholic. It's all in a moderation Yeah,
• 52:48
  responsibly drink. Responsibly bottle by bottle.
• 52:54
  That's your slogan? No, Travis said that he likes
• 52:57
  reposado, but we're actually out of reposado.
• 52:59
  So we did Aneko for us and we, Bryce, you need to make a 0
• 53:06
  proof cocked alcohol, please and thank you.
• 53:10
  I'm asking for the guests who don't drink, not for me 'cause I
• 53:15
  will do the drink. I'm fine with it.
• 53:17
  But yeah, no, we made, I don't, I don't know, it's kind of like
• 53:20
  an old fashioned. It's kind of not.
• 53:23
  It kind of is there's lime in there and you wouldn't typically
• 53:26
  put that in an old fashioned, but I don't know, you just said
• 53:29
  that you like to put you like to put ice in your reposado.
• 53:33
  So I was like, OK, that's. Usually what I would mix, yeah.
• 53:37
  Tequila and ice cube, Yeah. 'Cause like he's, he's really
• 53:41
  going through shit. You're really.
• 53:43
  Going through shit when you drink like that.
• 53:45
  I don't I. Disagree.
• 53:46
  I don't. I think when you're mixing like
• 53:48
  tequila, if you have good tequila, yeah.
• 53:50
  If you're mixing something with it, you're kind of just stealing
• 53:52
  the show. Stealing from the show.
• 53:55
  You wouldn't. You wouldn't have known that,
• 53:57
  yeah. I mean, yeah.
• 53:58
  I mean, if, if, if, if I was drinking right now, I'd just
• 54:00
  say, yeah, just pour me a glass. Yeah.
• 54:03
  See, I don't need all that other stuff.
• 54:04
  All that sugar. Why?
• 54:05
  Why would you put all that sugar?
• 54:06
  I mean, don't get me wrong. Delicious drinks, honey.
• 54:08
  I love it. No, yours is different.
• 54:11
  Honey is is a different type of sugar.
• 54:13
  It's natural sugar. Agreed.
• 54:15
  It's actually, I don't even believe.
• 54:16
  I mean, is it even sugar? Well, I mean like a natural
• 54:19
  sweetener, I guess, right? That that would be the word.
• 54:21
  Yeah, Yeah. It's has has studies show that
• 54:26
  it has a much lower glycemic effect or it it doesn't
• 54:29
  necessarily your body absorbs it much better.
• 54:34
  It doesn't, you know, create. What is it I.
• 54:40
  Don't know what sugar does to your body to be honest with you.
• 54:42
  Makes. You insulin resistant, so that
• 54:47
  has much less of an effect on it, OK.
• 54:50
  I I use honey a lot in my meals that I make for myself, mostly
• 54:58
  because I'm following recipes. I just follow.
• 55:03
  Have you have you ever heard of Royal Honey?
• 55:06
  No. Oh, OK.
• 55:08
  What's that? How do I get those bees in my
• 55:10
  backyard next to my orange tree? Am I watermelon?
• 55:13
  Are those are those are watermelons?
• 55:15
  And I'm only asking this for I'm.
• 55:17
  I'm only asking for you guys because I have them in my
• 55:20
  backyard. But like watermelons, they don't
• 55:23
  grow. No, they're from the ground.
• 55:25
  They grow like a vine. They grow out like a vine.
• 55:28
  But but isn't it that fruits grow off trees?
• 55:30
  Correct. So it was watermelon.
• 55:33
  Technically not. That's a good a fruit.
• 55:35
  That's a great. Question I don't think I don't
• 55:38
  believe the the way it has grown defines that because typically
• 55:43
  from what I understand is like the fruit that means like the
• 55:46
  seeds have to be in the middle there's like a skin or something
• 55:49
  to it like that was the those are the defined but then.
• 55:52
  The strawberry doesn't make sense.
• 55:53
  Strawberry. Is not a fruit a.
• 55:55
  Blueberry, a tomato. Is a fruit the?
• 55:57
  Tomato is a fruit, but it does have the strawberries.
• 56:00
  Technically is a fruit, but I've from what I remember reading
• 56:02
  last is that there's some kind of subcategory of fruit that it
• 56:05
  belongs to, but it's not considered like normal fruit.
• 56:09
  Gotcha. It's like the spiders are not
• 56:11
  insects, they're arachnite. See that I?
• 56:14
  Wouldn't dude, it's an insect. It's.
• 56:16
  Not an insect. It's not technically an insect.
• 56:19
  I agree. Right.
• 56:20
  Yeah. And like a bird is a mammal.
• 56:24
  Is it? I thought, not a chance, But
• 56:28
  birds lay eggs, Mammals don't. I know.
• 56:30
  I know no birds. Not AII object.
• 56:34
  What's that? Most mammals.
• 56:36
  Don't. Is it like a platypus is?
• 56:38
  A Oh my, wait, my bad. Birds are mammals, guys.
• 56:41
  They're foul. There is an animal that is a
• 56:42
  mammal that it shouldn't be a a mammal.
• 56:45
  Humans. The whale.
• 56:47
  Seriously. Which one a whale I.
• 56:51
  Guess homo sapien is what I meant to go with but.
• 56:54
  I like this AI overview of what defines fruit there.
• 56:59
  Explain. Yeah.
• 56:59
  Read it to us. Read it.
• 57:00
  You can't really trust AI, but go for it.
• 57:02
  A fruit. Is botanically defined as the
• 57:05
  ripened ovary of a flowering plant that contains one or more
• 57:08
  seeds that was. So sexual, that's what I.
• 57:10
  Was just dude, that's sexy, right?
• 57:13
  That was so. Sexual you had.
• 57:15
  Some ripened ovaries today in your mouth.
• 57:24
  Banana is is a yes. It did.
• 57:28
  I had a. Banana this morning.
• 57:31
  Cheers. Cheers.
• 57:36
  Cheers to ovaries in our mouths. And bananas, huh?
• 57:42
  That was perfect because it's both of the sexual organs.
• 57:45
  Yeah, went there quickly. So are we.
• 57:49
  Going there next. No.
• 57:54
  I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I don't ask questions that I
• 57:58
  wouldn't be comfortable answering myself.
• 58:01
  So yeah, especially on the pod outside of the pods.
• 58:05
  Different sort. Yeah, of course.
• 58:10
  OK, so you've had you have a really unexpected resume like
• 58:13
  your resume of things is besides, because you're a
• 58:17
  curious person. We've already established that
• 58:19
  in Part 1. But like I understand that you
• 58:22
  have recorded rappers too because you used to be a
• 58:25
  producer. Of course, going back to you
• 58:28
  building computers at 12, you have that fire extinguisher
• 58:31
  story and then like you're in real estate for mortgage.
• 58:39
  I do both so so real licensed real estate agent, but also
• 58:43
  licensed mortgage loan originator, OK.
• 58:46
  Yeah. And I'm pretty sure there's more
• 58:48
  in here that I couldn't find about you because you're you've
• 58:51
  kind of hidden some stuff because you've done you have a
• 58:54
  past. Yeah.
• 58:56
  OK. I I just didn't look hard
• 58:57
  enough. No, it's just.
• 58:59
  A little mystery is always good for any kind of situation.
• 59:02
  Yeah, you never know why. It's because you're the, you're
• 59:04
  the elder millennial. So like I'm like the.
• 59:07
  First two years or something like that, yeah.
• 59:09
  So like you definitely right before putting everything on the
• 59:14
  Internet, you're on Myspace, Yeah.
• 59:17
  Yeah, I had a Myspace. That's where I should have got
• 59:20
  it anyway. I don't think I don't even know
• 59:22
  if I ever really did anything with it.
• 59:23
  Like I have one. In fact, I would be so curious
• 59:27
  to see what it looked like, yeah.
• 59:28
  You don't remember? You didn't.
• 59:30
  Get into coding back then. No, actually I I did all the.
• 59:33
  That's when I got into it more than software.
• 59:35
  I I really like the hands on the building and, and seeing how
• 59:39
  something worked, like understanding that this part,
• 59:42
  you know, video card sound cards, like you know, just how
• 59:44
  everything created a thing. You have all these pieces and
• 59:46
  then it creates this one like it it, it has one task or many
• 59:51
  tasks, but it the software required a lot more patience
• 59:57
  than I had as a child and it's. Probably has to do with the fact
• 59:59
  that you're an elder millennial, so not enough in.
• 1:00:02
  Well, yeah. I mean well, I mean I started I
• 1:00:04
  like when I was a kid it was dos so like if if y'all even know
• 1:00:08
  what that is right, So I don't. What is that?
• 1:00:10
  Sorry Dos. Is like the OG operating system.
• 1:00:12
  It literally stood for disk operating system.
• 1:00:15
  So like you, you didn't have any graphic interface, there was no
• 1:00:18
  mouse, you just had to know how to type and tell the computer
• 1:00:22
  what to do and speak computer. And speak.
• 1:00:25
  Computer speak. Computer, yeah, basically.
• 1:00:26
  Did you get better? How old were you?
• 1:00:28
  I mean single digits, Yeah. So wait you.
• 1:00:31
  Had one of those. You grew a bridge, a computer?
• 1:00:34
  Yeah. Like that type of computer that
• 1:00:37
  that didn't have an interface the windows well.
• 1:00:41
  It just didn't like really wasn't a thing yet.
• 1:00:44
  Like, it wasn't until like, Windows 95 did computers have
• 1:00:49
  interfaces. Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  But you're, you're saying you you grew up with like in terms
• 1:00:52
  of like you had that at home. We used.
• 1:00:54
  The computer that had DOS and you had to be like you had that.
• 1:00:56
  At home, yeah. Yeah, you'd.
• 1:00:57
  Have to type like. If you want to play the game,
• 1:00:59
  you have to type like the commands.
• 1:01:01
  Yeah, something. Dot EXE and hit enter.
• 1:01:02
  You know, like I only. Know that because of Sheldon
• 1:01:05
  Cooper, The Big Bang Theory. That's the only reason I know
• 1:01:08
  that. So so I'm that's what I'm
• 1:01:10
  visualizing as you did. But I'm I'm saying you had that
• 1:01:12
  at home. You grew a bridge.
• 1:01:15
  Seriously. Just because you had a computer,
• 1:01:18
  I mean. Man, dude.
• 1:01:19
  Yeah, dude. Yeah, I mean, no.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah, so I grew up. In Bel Air and back then Bel Air
• 1:01:24
  was way outside of Wichita like it was out there.
• 1:01:27
  So which it? Is still today, I mean.
• 1:01:29
  Not really, dude. You can't tell when you leave
• 1:01:30
  once. Yeah, you can't tell when you
• 1:01:32
  leave any. Like it was like 3 miles of just
• 1:01:34
  trees between US and wait Bel. Air, I'm thinking not the like.
• 1:01:37
  45th OK, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:01:40
  OK, OK. It was the greatest neighborhood
• 1:01:42
  to grow up in, I feel like in that era.
• 1:01:45
  But yes, I remember the first time like getting on the
• 1:01:48
  Internet dial up and like we had Warcraft, like the first
• 1:01:51
  Warcraft and you can, you know, you can't call your homie
• 1:01:56
  because you pick up the phone, you lose connection.
• 1:01:59
  But we. Would like we we spent like 3
• 1:02:01
  hours trying to play a game of Warcraft.
• 1:02:04
  Like where I would my computer, I would type in his IP address
• 1:02:08
  and call his computer, then his computer would answer and then
• 1:02:11
  we could actually play a game together online.
• 1:02:14
  That's. Cool though.
• 1:02:16
  Like isn't isn't that crazy? Yeah, so epic.
• 1:02:18
  I bet. I bet your little kid brain was
• 1:02:20
  like dude. So epic, you know what I mean?
• 1:02:23
  So like 'cause that's. How I feel.
• 1:02:25
  Working in it now. Now they call it couch Co-op.
• 1:02:27
  That used to be called 2 player. What's?
• 1:02:30
  A couch Co-op? Well, what do you mean by that?
• 1:02:32
  Like we can both sit on the couch and play the game
• 1:02:34
  together. Physically and.
• 1:02:36
  Playing off the. Same screen or TV or whatever.
• 1:02:39
  Yeah, it's called two player, but now two player means it's
• 1:02:42
  online, basically multiplayer, yeah.
• 1:02:45
  It's like. You're at your house and I'm at
• 1:02:47
  my house, OK? See, I've been.
• 1:02:49
  I stopped with video games at the GameCube.
• 1:02:53
  That's where I stopped. So did.
• 1:02:54
  I I think, yeah. So like so I'm like these terms.
• 1:02:58
  I'm just for recent. I guess years when I had a kid,
• 1:03:00
  then it kind of and then. It came back, came back.
• 1:03:02
  OK. Gotcha.
• 1:03:04
  Yeah. Whose?
• 1:03:04
  Choice was that, definitely. Mine, yeah.
• 1:03:07
  No, I mean. It's yeah.
• 1:03:09
  It's like, well, I love. It.
• 1:03:10
  I love it. That's the reason you had a kid.
• 1:03:13
  Dude, besides the. Sex, yeah.
• 1:03:20
  Besides the. Ovaries and the bananas, that
• 1:03:23
  was the bonus, right? That.
• 1:03:27
  Was cool. I will say my favorite thing
• 1:03:29
  about being a dad is I get to relive childhood through my
• 1:03:32
  son's eyes. It is the freaking coolest thing
• 1:03:35
  ever. So much fun.
• 1:03:37
  How old is? He, he's 10.
• 1:03:39
  Yeah, He just. Turned 10 a couple like 2 months
• 1:03:41
  ago, but what is? Your favorite question that
• 1:03:44
  you've asked your son? Oh, Jesus.
• 1:03:46
  I fail as a dad on that level now.
• 1:03:48
  I'm not nearly as cool as my mom is what I'm saying.
• 1:03:52
  I've asked him those same questions.
• 1:03:53
  So like a lot of those same questions.
• 1:03:55
  Well, has he told you? But we, if you remember, I don't
• 1:03:58
  necessarily have like those one line questions that I hit him
• 1:04:01
  with. We just have very deep
• 1:04:03
  conversations. So we really will get into
• 1:04:06
  conversation. And my favorite question that
• 1:04:10
  I've asked him is what do you think?
• 1:04:15
  Yeah, yeah. So letting, letting him, yeah,
• 1:04:17
  like I express himself the greatest.
• 1:04:19
  Thing I ever learned as a parent was the Socratic method of
• 1:04:23
  teaching. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:25
  So. My nickname as a child, my mom
• 1:04:28
  used to call me walkie-talkie because all I did was follow her
• 1:04:30
  around the house and just be like and just ask questions.
• 1:04:32
  I asked a million questions and my son identical to me on that
• 1:04:36
  level really. Like he's Do you love that or do
• 1:04:38
  you hate that? You know what I mean, 'cause
• 1:04:39
  like, you know, yeah, 'cause like I was a talking about him.
• 1:04:43
  I love that. About him, but sometimes I am
• 1:04:45
  not like, you know, like the the when you're.
• 1:04:47
  At the level of burnout and you're like, you're getting that
• 1:04:50
  the why, why, why? Well then why?
• 1:04:53
  Like what? Well, what does that?
• 1:04:54
  What? Why I don't?
• 1:04:55
  Know Google it well now it's TikTok though, yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Well, I don't, we don't, I don't, we don't do a lot of
• 1:05:00
  that's. Good.
• 1:05:01
  So like, have you read The Anxious Generation?
• 1:05:03
  No, you need to read that book. OK, no, but I.
• 1:05:05
  Mean I still I think I know enough of the basis about it,
• 1:05:07
  but like if the guy who invented the technology that we all abuse
• 1:05:11
  didn't allow it at his in his house, I think there's a strong
• 1:05:14
  like that should tell me everything I need to know yes.
• 1:05:16
  So it goes. The anxious generation.
• 1:05:19
  Really, really good book. I'd recommend it to everyone.
• 1:05:21
  I read a lot of I don't have kids, I'm just an aunt and I'm
• 1:05:24
  just trying to be a really good aunt, that's all.
• 1:05:26
  The cool aunt, Yeah. Everybody needs those.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, I'm. Just trying to be a good aunt
• 1:05:30
  and, and I have both, you know, I have nephews and nieces.
• 1:05:35
  So I'm also like unlearning a lot of things that I used to
• 1:05:38
  believe too, just so that I can be a good aunt on both of those
• 1:05:42
  areas. But the anxious generation, it's
• 1:05:46
  talking about just the rise of social media and how really we
• 1:05:52
  should like really there should be an age limit of when you can
• 1:05:56
  get access to social media, which should be at 16.
• 1:06:00
  I agree. And because that's about.
• 1:06:02
  When it started to exist, even for us, Facebook was only on
• 1:06:07
  campus when it started. And I remember my buddy, I'd go
• 1:06:10
  up to Lawrence as often as I could to go hang out with them
• 1:06:14
  and, and KU and he showed me Facebook and he's like, this is
• 1:06:18
  just, you know, so we can. And it was all about like,
• 1:06:20
  where's the party at tonight? Like, where's it going down?
• 1:06:22
  You know, it was very, if you didn't have AEDU e-mail address,
• 1:06:26
  you couldn't get on Facebook. So if for us, I guess it wasn't
• 1:06:30
  even 16. It was like college, Yeah.
• 1:06:32
  So even different, right? Like 1819 and and.
• 1:06:35
  For me, it was a little like Facebook doesn't.
• 1:06:38
  Well, I think Facebook was around when for me, 'cause like
• 1:06:42
  I start with, it was called Bebo, that was a different
• 1:06:45
  social media platform. And then I went to Myspace and
• 1:06:48
  then I went to Facebook. Dang.
• 1:06:50
  OK, Yeah. But at that time, there was an
• 1:06:53
  age limit that you had to be 13. And that's what it started with
• 1:06:56
  for me. And I remember like, I have an
• 1:06:59
  older sister. And so my, you know, actual
• 1:07:02
  immigrants. So like my parents, I mean, my
• 1:07:05
  dad speaks English, but my mom didn't.
• 1:07:06
  And so my older sister had, I had to ask for permission from
• 1:07:10
  her too, essentially when the things were in English.
• 1:07:13
  So like, because it was just like my mom would be like, are
• 1:07:18
  you lying to me? Well, I just don't.
• 1:07:21
  Really. See you mean what?
• 1:07:23
  What so I? Had to be 13 to be on there.
• 1:07:26
  But really, I mean, I think like, you know, I should have
• 1:07:30
  waited more, but all my friends were on it.
• 1:07:32
  I remember everyone was on it at 11, at ten.
• 1:07:35
  Yeah, that's a trap. It really.
• 1:07:37
  Is 'cause. I don't care.
• 1:07:38
  But at first you don't. Yeah, at first you don't think
• 1:07:41
  it's bad because right now, like, everyone's on it, you know
• 1:07:44
  what I mean? And and you don't think it's
• 1:07:47
  bad. But then I started reading this
• 1:07:48
  book, and like you, I mean, so I go really deep into the
• 1:07:52
  psychology stuff. I love that, Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  And the. Neuroscience stuff too, like I
• 1:07:56
  or now I'm I'm deep diving into the neuroscience stuff, but like
• 1:08:01
  how it's described, how it really effects you at that young
• 1:08:05
  of an age. I'm sure like, well, 'cause you,
• 1:08:08
  you're still so early in your development, yes, as far as what
• 1:08:11
  your brain is, yeah. And so I mean, I'm sure even us,
• 1:08:13
  we, we experienced a lot of things like that.
• 1:08:15
  But but but not like this. Not like the current like my
• 1:08:18
  children and and like even even just like.
• 1:08:21
  My little sister, sorry, my little sister and I are nine
• 1:08:24
  years apart. I bring her up a lot.
• 1:08:25
  I love you. I bring up all my siblings a
• 1:08:28
  lot, absolutely. But what I say this, even with
• 1:08:34
  my good friends, we talk about this all the time, is like how
• 1:08:37
  much, like the insecurity is really high because of the
• 1:08:40
  comparison, because of how much access you have to that versus
• 1:08:44
  just, you know, what's in your surroundings, physical
• 1:08:48
  surroundings. And now we're talking virtual
• 1:08:49
  surroundings and and, and it's, well, it's a lot.
• 1:08:55
  This goes into a philosophy that I, I have that I picked up on
• 1:08:58
  that I read somewhere was like you, you really can't control
• 1:09:02
  what you think. You can't control where you know
• 1:09:04
  the thought. What does a thought come from?
• 1:09:07
  Like you don't think to think a thought.
• 1:09:10
  You don't think to think a thought.
• 1:09:11
  No, it just. Comes like you don't control
• 1:09:14
  what you think you don't think. Trauma has something to do with
• 1:09:17
  that or your experience has something to do with that.
• 1:09:19
  Well, that's. Actually where I'm gonna go with
• 1:09:21
  this. Oh, OK, OK.
• 1:09:21
  OK. So go ahead.
• 1:09:22
  What you can't control is what you observe.
• 1:09:26
  So what controls how you think is what you are like, what you
• 1:09:30
  allow you to be able to see and observe.
• 1:09:34
  So what you see, what you hear like the what you listen to,
• 1:09:38
  what you know all like, what you touch like, These things will
• 1:09:41
  affect how you think. Yeah.
• 1:09:44
  So if you want to protect, if you want better mindset, you
• 1:09:48
  need to be making sure that you're inputting the right
• 1:09:51
  stuff. So just like, and I look at it
• 1:09:54
  very much like diet, like I don't like to diet.
• 1:09:56
  Yeah, like I. Don't like to eat food that's I
• 1:09:59
  don't like to eat food like product that's this that is sold
• 1:10:02
  as food. I like to eat food like if you
• 1:10:05
  come into my house, there's not a single snack I have
• 1:10:09
  ingredients I don't have. There's nothing in a box I don't
• 1:10:14
  own as like nothing is boxed. It's like, I mean the flour and
• 1:10:19
  and you know, rice and beans and OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:22
  Meats and vegetables and fruits. So your.
• 1:10:24
  Kid at your house will not have snacks for the.
• 1:10:27
  Roll ups No, I don't have fruit roll ups.
• 1:10:29
  I do like you like, you know, like no, he I do put a like
• 1:10:33
  these. Candies that Fiona gave us?
• 1:10:34
  Yep. I mean, I mean, don't get me
• 1:10:36
  wrong, we. Don't get me.
• 1:10:38
  Wrong. We eat candy and like he's he's
• 1:10:40
  got like a fruit snacks that I put in his lunches.
• 1:10:43
  You know, like I make his lunch. He's I make breakfast, lunch and
• 1:10:45
  dinner for him every day, almost every day.
• 1:10:48
  But like he packs a lunch. I don't want him to eat whatever
• 1:10:51
  the the the schools feed him because that is garbage.
• 1:10:54
  Like it's Michelle. Obama fixed it.
• 1:10:58
  We went there, huh? Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  Yeah, yeah. Hey, I didn't hear the That
• 1:11:02
  sounded like the little disgruntled Beavis and butt
• 1:11:06
  head. So yeah, that's what I mean.
• 1:11:09
  He did it on his own. Yeah, he.
• 1:11:10
  Did he was like? But it's but he's getting zoom.
• 1:11:14
  In on that, sorry, go ahead. I was going to.
• 1:11:17
  Say the same thing as if that's true for your body, the same
• 1:11:20
  thing is true for your mind. Yeah.
• 1:11:21
  So when you're putting your, when you're exposing yourself to
• 1:11:24
  all this, this, the social and the the, the virtual, I don't
• 1:11:29
  even like, I've gotten really weird.
• 1:11:31
  Like when I, when you say I'm weird, I am weird.
• 1:11:33
  Like I don't like to watch movies that are about violence.
• 1:11:36
  I don't like watching. I don't like, I don't like
• 1:11:40
  negativity. I don't I understand that it's
• 1:11:42
  the world, but I I just come to the point to where I've
• 1:11:46
  experienced enough of that, you know, I I don't want to see any
• 1:11:49
  more people killing each other. It just doesn't find it
• 1:11:51
  entertaining. Like I do watch some of it,
• 1:11:53
  don't get me wrong, but it's not what I go for.
• 1:11:56
  Like I want, I want to watch anime because it's about my
• 1:11:59
  ninja way and it's about like I refuse to quit.
• 1:12:02
  Nothing in this universe has the power to stop me but me.
• 1:12:07
  I want that in my mind. I want that to be fed to my
• 1:12:10
  psyche. So then when I think, I think
• 1:12:12
  about those kind of things. That's what controls my where my
• 1:12:15
  thoughts come from. I I think, I think that goes
• 1:12:17
  back to what you said at the beginning.
• 1:12:19
  Is it better to know or to understand?
• 1:12:21
  And that's what you're saying that you prefer to understand
• 1:12:24
  than to know. So it's like I've known enough
• 1:12:27
  already of this. I was about to say sorry to my
• 1:12:29
  mic. I apologize.
• 1:12:31
  It'll. Be fine, you're my.
• 1:12:34
  Friend. I love you.
• 1:12:38
  Some dig a little. Bit of a abuse anyway, right?
• 1:12:40
  Yeah. Thing after we tear it apart and
• 1:12:43
  just go in a bag abandoned like Andy's toys.
• 1:12:51
  Eventually we're going to be able to leave them up all the
• 1:12:53
  time. Oh, I love how you just, like,
• 1:12:56
  speak everything into existence. Boom.
• 1:12:58
  Yeah, I love it. I love it, I love it.
• 1:13:04
  We. Started down this path because
• 1:13:06
  we were talking about your unexpected resume.
• 1:13:08
  OK yeah. And there was a lot of really
• 1:13:11
  good stuff in there that I wanted to like trail off into,
• 1:13:17
  but I already forgot. So you recorded rappers though?
• 1:13:21
  And I recorded music, OK. So Ben told me that you used to
• 1:13:25
  record rappers. That that was a lot of who I
• 1:13:28
  was, a lot of my client base, Yeah.
• 1:13:30
  Oh, OK, and my brother so it started off with my brother and
• 1:13:35
  I started making music together and I wanted to weird story, but
• 1:13:40
  anyway, like we're we used to. I don't even this too much too
• 1:13:44
  much knowledge. I can't share some of that.
• 1:13:45
  No, that's. What we want, sorry.
• 1:13:51
  So. But yes, we started making
• 1:13:54
  music. He rapped.
• 1:13:56
  I mean, we listen to rap growing up, right?
• 1:13:57
  So that's that was like the native the the art form that we
• 1:14:01
  wanted to express in. But I mean to me, music I got to
• 1:14:06
  me again, maybe weird music wasn't just about that.
• 1:14:09
  Like my goal when I was making music was I really wanted to, I
• 1:14:12
  wanted to make people feel the. Storytelling.
• 1:14:15
  It didn't matter. Like, yeah, it, I mean it just
• 1:14:18
  everybody's different. So I just wanted to evoke
• 1:14:20
  emotion now. It could be through story, it
• 1:14:23
  could be through sound, it could be through so many different
• 1:14:26
  ways. But like if you know, you won
• 1:14:27
  when you, when somebody listen to something you did and and
• 1:14:29
  they had goosebumps, that's like the win.
• 1:14:32
  That's as an entertainer in my in my thought, but also like
• 1:14:36
  sometimes it just makes you want to move.
• 1:14:38
  This makes me want to dance, right.
• 1:14:40
  So, but as me being as where as I am like I when I'm making
• 1:14:43
  music, it wasn't I also, it was a whole philosophy for me where
• 1:14:48
  music touches into like the core principles of the entire
• 1:14:51
  universe. And it's, it's about
• 1:14:54
  frequencies, it's about understanding harmony.
• 1:14:58
  Neuroscience. Yeah, it is.
• 1:15:00
  Well. Everything is Everything is a
• 1:15:02
  frequency. This.
• 1:15:03
  Yeah. So a theory I have as a child
• 1:15:04
  was that we're actually like what a human being really is.
• 1:15:08
  Is a photon filter a? Photon filter a photon.
• 1:15:11
  Filter. What is that?
• 1:15:12
  So. Like exists as both waves and
• 1:15:15
  photons. OK.
• 1:15:16
  Say that, run that back one more time because I was doing
• 1:15:19
  something else and I couldn't process at the same time.
• 1:15:21
  Which part? Like like.
• 1:15:23
  The light, light, light. Like the what what emits as
• 1:15:26
  light come, it exists as both photons and waveform.
• 1:15:30
  Can you? What's a photon?
• 1:15:32
  A photon. Is basically light OK so I'm a
• 1:15:37
  Google it yeah yeah, that's chat that's chat what what a photon
• 1:15:40
  is so but it's it's it's a wave until it's observed it's.
• 1:15:45
  A fundamental particle quantum. You're talking about quantum
• 1:15:49
  things now. This is the theory I.
• 1:15:52
  Had I came up OK, OK. OK, sorry.
• 1:15:54
  OK, OK, sorry. Let's go back to this you're. 11
• 1:15:56
  or 12? Correct.
• 1:16:00
  The first time you. You the first time.
• 1:16:02
  I heard you have some. Type ADHD, autism.
• 1:16:06
  Sure, all of them. OK, that's no, I'm kidding.
• 1:16:10
  I mean, I've been I've been diagnosed, yes, ADHD and slight,
• 1:16:14
  you know, like high functioning spectrum that makes.
• 1:16:17
  Sense, yeah. So I love.
• 1:16:19
  Neuro Spicy. Yeah, you.
• 1:16:25
  Believe your your belief at or your So what you found out at 11
• 1:16:30
  We are or not we are but this. All ties into music too at the
• 1:16:33
  same way, because music is frequency that can only be
• 1:16:35
  observed through the ear. So that's everything is
• 1:16:39
  frequency, everything is frequency.
• 1:16:41
  The only reason why color is the color it is because of of how it
• 1:16:44
  resonates, at what frequency it resonates the way that.
• 1:16:46
  The light, yeah, the way that the light travels and and
• 1:16:50
  reflects back, that's where color exists.
• 1:16:53
  From, from how it resonates like how how it vibrates OK, yeah,
• 1:16:57
  yeah. So it vibrates so quickly that
• 1:16:59
  it is a color and but you, that vibration can only be seen,
• 1:17:04
  cannot be heard. And so there's this full
• 1:17:06
  spectrum of vibrations out here. And that music to me was a big
• 1:17:09
  part of that. Cuz like what I found
• 1:17:13
  fascinating as I, as I just experimented and my nickname as
• 1:17:18
  the, my production nickname was the mad scientist.
• 1:17:22
  So that was literally what was on my business card.
• 1:17:24
  OK, was the mad scientist How old?
• 1:17:26
  Are you when you came up with that still?
• 1:17:28
  Original it's. Great branding.
• 1:17:31
  Really. I feel like it's that sarcasm.
• 1:17:33
  Is that being serious or? No, that one's sarcasm.
• 1:17:37
  I mean, it was what I was. That's what they called me, not
• 1:17:40
  that's what they called me. Not like what I came up with,
• 1:17:43
  but we're talking about early mid 20s That's why.
• 1:17:46
  Mediocre. No, I'm kidding.
• 1:17:47
  Oh geez. I'm kidding.
• 1:17:50
  Really stabbed, you know, I mean low rise jeans, you know, the
• 1:17:54
  fashion trends there, what's? Wrong with low rise jeans,
• 1:17:57
  they're just. Not that great as it.
• 1:18:00
  Well, OK for men. It's so good I forget I work
• 1:18:04
  with men. I love working with men so much.
• 1:18:08
  It is so much fun. Just keep.
• 1:18:15
  Going so anyway, but. I'm not even going to comment
• 1:18:18
  but this. But my study was just how I
• 1:18:20
  looked at it was, you know, frequencies like when 2, when 2
• 1:18:25
  notes meet each other that they, they, they're harmonic.
• 1:18:29
  Their, their, their waves actually will touch at their
• 1:18:31
  highs and their lows. And that's what makes it
• 1:18:32
  harmonic and makes it sound good and feel good.
• 1:18:35
  And then you have sounds that are dissident, which means that
• 1:18:37
  they don't ever touch. Like the waves will never meet
• 1:18:39
  each other. So they just don't sound like
• 1:18:41
  they belong. And same as like, I mean, that
• 1:18:43
  literally applies to all things in my, in my eyes, like so much
• 1:18:48
  of this universe, like you, like you, when you're harmonious
• 1:18:51
  with, with all that is like it, you're touched by.
• 1:18:54
  And when you're not touching it, you have this dissidence.
• 1:19:00
  Sorry. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's
• 1:19:02
  really, I'm really processing it.
• 1:19:04
  No worries. I'm visualizing.
• 1:19:06
  I'm a visual learner. Is what I'm I really that's?
• 1:19:09
  Why I Corey when we mix in key when we're DJ ING, it sounds
• 1:19:12
  awesome. And being a DJ like you
• 1:19:15
  definitely understand that because you you will speed
• 1:19:17
  things up and slow them down. And by doing so, we'll change
• 1:19:19
  the key it is. And so you have to retune it
• 1:19:21
  too, to where the next song matches the last song and it
• 1:19:24
  continues to flow. Yeah, I hate when I hate when
• 1:19:27
  DJs don't know how to do that as a listener did that.
• 1:19:30
  Yeah, exactly. Or else you're not really a DJ
• 1:19:32
  and you're just, you're just playing a song after another
• 1:19:34
  song. Exactly.
• 1:19:35
  Put me on Ox. Tell me you'll love that when
• 1:19:39
  they work. It when they don't.
• 1:19:41
  When they don't, yeah. No, dude, that's you to the T
• 1:19:44
  Yeah, that's you 100%. I don't know you.
• 1:19:48
  I mean, I've met you twice now and I completely understand
• 1:19:51
  that's who you are. Yeah, I use.
• 1:19:52
  Like a lot of a lot of atmospherics and stuff and I'll
• 1:19:57
  force it. I'll jump 50 BPM right now.
• 1:20:01
  Man, right fucking now put me in coach back at Dusty.
• 1:20:04
  And go no, no. Oh man.
• 1:20:09
  I could. See that I could see Dusty.
• 1:20:10
  Just me. Dusty's like I I've sent this to
• 1:20:13
  him like from New Girl. Have you guys seen New Girl?
• 1:20:15
  Of course. What?
• 1:20:19
  Is it? It's a.
• 1:20:21
  Funny sitcom? Is it a sitcom?
• 1:20:24
  Zooey Deschanel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:25
  Yeah, I've never. Actually watched it you've.
• 1:20:27
  Never actually which one is. It as good looking.
• 1:20:29
  As she is, she's very. Good looking, she's so pretty.
• 1:20:34
  I think I might have seen that episode of 2 somewhere.
• 1:20:36
  It did. Have you not seen Bro I?
• 1:20:40
  Only watched dark stuff. It's not.
• 1:20:43
  Terrible. It's exactly if it's not 50
• 1:20:45
  BPM's off of whatever the flow is, he's not watching.
• 1:20:48
  It I just googled it and one of the first links is a Reddit
• 1:20:52
  saying. Anyone else not a fan of New
• 1:20:54
  Girl? This whole episode has been anti
• 1:20:59
  me. Not really but I mean like when
• 1:21:02
  we talk about attack on Titan y'all were like fuck that thing.
• 1:21:06
  I've not met somebody who doesn't like attack on Titan or
• 1:21:09
  doesn't have. I just thought it was boring.
• 1:21:11
  Thought I didn't say that. Either I just I don't like it,
• 1:21:14
  just didn't it just. Didn't, yeah.
• 1:21:16
  It just didn't boring, you know, I don't get mad when I didn't
• 1:21:20
  get no, I'm just, I'm just. I'm just like.
• 1:21:23
  I've not met and oh, I think this.
• 1:21:26
  I am friendly, understanding what this episode is.
• 1:21:28
  I've met the Reddit people. I've met the Reddit.
• 1:21:33
  I have never. Had the Reddit.
• 1:21:34
  Account I feels very like, I feels very, very like
• 1:21:38
  disrespectful. Like.
• 1:21:42
  Like like, are we? Like did you just declare war
• 1:21:44
  mostly? These two, mostly these two.
• 1:21:48
  Oh, OK. Look at you trying to make peace
• 1:21:50
  treaties all of a. Sudden, I read.
• 1:21:52
  I read. A lot of Reddit buddy I.
• 1:21:54
  Don't read any of that. Does he loves working with me
• 1:21:58
  too? That's his favorite noise when
• 1:22:04
  when I'm like, oh, do you love working together?
• 1:22:06
  And he's like, you see, where the fuck was I going with that?
• 1:22:16
  Weird background. Yeah.
• 1:22:18
  Weird resume, weird resume, but to me, like all things are what
• 1:22:23
  they are. Like it.
• 1:22:24
  It's because. You went so deep with it that
• 1:22:26
  like I know you were talking about frequencies, a lot of
• 1:22:31
  things came to mind, the Flash being one.
• 1:22:35
  Is that humans are photon filters?
• 1:22:40
  Yeah, yeah. The other.
• 1:22:42
  Because I mean like the what is it?
• 1:22:44
  The like the the origin of quantum physics is the study of
• 1:22:47
  that. You know, when light is
• 1:22:49
  perceived, it turns from a wave to a particle and particles like
• 1:22:53
  I mean this is frequency, this is table as as wavelengths.
• 1:22:56
  But because we're observing the waves, they have particles and
• 1:22:59
  so therefore it is a solid matter thing.
• 1:23:03
  Gas and liquid skies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:06
  I mean just just just to make it simpler for people like me.
• 1:23:10
  Yes, so like. Back when I used to punch holes
• 1:23:13
  indoors, like was I just? Valid question.
• 1:23:17
  I see where you're going. OK, keep going.
• 1:23:18
  Keep going down this line was I. Destroying particles.
• 1:23:22
  That had babies. Yeah, bro, he was.
• 1:23:26
  He was going to, he was going to work.
• 1:23:30
  He was going. To work, to feed his family and
• 1:23:33
  he had five kids at home and you destroyed that going.
• 1:23:36
  To work to feed his family, yeah.
• 1:23:38
  He was a father of five particles.
• 1:23:40
  A. Truth of the universe and He.
• 1:23:42
  Had a missus particles. Oh my.
• 1:23:43
  Fist went fucking through the shit, yeah.
• 1:23:45
  And poor Mr. Particle said he didn't say he didn't have a say.
• 1:23:51
  He just said he didn't have a say.
• 1:23:52
  Oh, Dusty. He.
• 1:23:54
  Probably didn't say that. He didn't say oh, Dusty, that's
• 1:23:57
  not what he said. He probably said something like,
• 1:24:00
  what the fuck? Barely something like that.
• 1:24:05
  You killed my father, Yeah. That's what the kids were saying
• 1:24:10
  anyways. OK, sorry you were going with
• 1:24:11
  this. That was a very that was really
• 1:24:13
  valid. What?
• 1:24:14
  The six finger man. The six finger man, is it 6?
• 1:24:18
  Fingers. I think it's before your time.
• 1:24:21
  The Princess Bride. The Princess Bride?
• 1:24:26
  No, the 6th one. He's like, what was it?
• 1:24:31
  Oh gosh, what was his name? The Princess.
• 1:24:33
  Bride. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:24:35
  Character profile role. He's a Princess who preferred
• 1:24:38
  Dinks. I don't know how to print
• 1:24:40
  Humperdinks. Humperdink.
• 1:24:42
  That sounds like a fake name. Because it's a fake story.
• 1:24:46
  It's. He's.
• 1:24:49
  He's anyway if you didn't get it, we'll just move on.
• 1:24:52
  Let's go, OK. OK, let's move on some people.
• 1:24:54
  Will laugh. At that, some people will laugh
• 1:24:56
  at that. We'll find the niche.
• 1:24:57
  Yeah, we'll find the niche. So oh so.
• 1:25:03
  OK, so back to the photons. And yeah, you asked a really
• 1:25:05
  good question. My mind went to two different
• 1:25:09
  directions. I'm trying to figure out which
• 1:25:11
  one I want to go with because 1 can be fun and and easy and
• 1:25:15
  maybe a more relatable which is the flash.
• 1:25:18
  OK. I think like when we talk about
• 1:25:20
  the speed of light, when we talk about how the Flash is able to
• 1:25:23
  travel through time, when we talk about the Flash being able
• 1:25:26
  to vibrate through things, I mean, that's the flash.
• 1:25:30
  Flash is pretty awesome. Flash is pretty cool.
• 1:25:33
  Or we can go down. I go down into transcendence.
• 1:25:37
  You were talking about harmonic things, Angel numbers, harmony,
• 1:25:41
  it's all. Connected, it's all.
• 1:25:42
  Connected and then it's not at the same time because we're on a
• 1:25:46
  floating rock. I mean, but I do, but it's
• 1:25:49
  connected. I don't think it's not not OK.
• 1:25:51
  So you don't believe in coincidences?
• 1:25:53
  The. Floating rock is only here
• 1:25:55
  because we all notice it. I don't think I believe in Yeah,
• 1:25:59
  hey, because if we hadn't observed it, if we didn't photon
• 1:26:02
  filter if we. Didn't, but that's what I'm
• 1:26:05
  gonna start. So if I didn't photon then how
• 1:26:06
  did I filter? Well then, how could the how
• 1:26:09
  could the Earth be here? Because.
• 1:26:11
  Others are photoning you. Yeah, we are observing you.
• 1:26:15
  It's the it's the ovaries and the banana that sounded so
• 1:26:22
  sexual in my head and I had to. OK, sorry.
• 1:26:25
  I thought that's. Where you're going with that?
• 1:26:26
  That was. OK, let's go back.
• 1:26:28
  Really back. Really back.
• 1:26:30
  No, but it is all connected. But I would like to hear you
• 1:26:32
  about what you say with the Angel numbers and all of that.
• 1:26:35
  I'm curious. I'm not that deep into it yet
• 1:26:37
  that I know a good cohesive way and simple way to describe it.
• 1:26:42
  But what you were describing in terms of the way that
• 1:26:47
  wavelengths from sound and how they travel.
• 1:26:52
  So I used to work at a nonprofit and I have learned that people
• 1:26:57
  learn differently and I've learned how people are at or
• 1:27:00
  like I've learned about how people.
• 1:27:01
  I mean, you were talking about Socratic seminar earlier or just
• 1:27:05
  no, you weren't Socratic. Yeah, the method.
• 1:27:06
  That's what you were. Talking about Socratic.
• 1:27:08
  OK, so I've I've towards schools, I've perturbed more
• 1:27:12
  multiple schools because I used to work in education nonprofit,
• 1:27:15
  but one of them was really, really cool.
• 1:27:17
  I mean, they had the funding for it.
• 1:27:19
  That's why they were able to do it.
• 1:27:20
  But it was really cool because they had like 5 teachers in the
• 1:27:23
  classroom. And so they had the kids kind of
• 1:27:26
  broken up based on how they learned.
• 1:27:27
  But they can also rotate. So some students were listeners
• 1:27:32
  and so they had headphones and that's how they were listening
• 1:27:34
  to things. Some students though, although
• 1:27:37
  they were listeners, they did it through music.
• 1:27:39
  And so there was a teacher in the middle of this this table,
• 1:27:43
  and they were, it was their song.
• 1:27:45
  Then some students were more visual and so they were at a
• 1:27:48
  table where they also were drawing or doing things
• 1:27:51
  throughout. They were all on the same
• 1:27:52
  subject. They were all on the same thing
• 1:27:55
  that they were needing to learn that day.
• 1:27:58
  But they had, yeah, it was so freaking cool.
• 1:28:01
  So why that's coming to my mind. I was, you're saying that 'cause
• 1:28:04
  I'm thinking of just like when things are finally well
• 1:28:08
  connected. And I also kind of think of
• 1:28:10
  Angel numbers, which is a little bit like spirituality, but I'm
• 1:28:13
  not fully there yet. But like as you were describing
• 1:28:15
  what you were experiencing of how you think that people are
• 1:28:19
  like, I just what I, what comes to mind.
• 1:28:21
  I think I'm a visual learner is what I'm learning about myself
• 1:28:24
  is like when people are saying things, I, I play a story in my
• 1:28:27
  head and I'm like, Oh, I know what they're saying now because
• 1:28:30
  I like some people will say cat and we'll think something, but
• 1:28:33
  in my head I visualize it. Yeah, like I'll visualize this.
• 1:28:36
  You know what I mean? Like I visualize that and I'm
• 1:28:39
  like, and I'm like painting it in my head.
• 1:28:41
  I'm like, oh, I know what you're talking about because I can
• 1:28:44
  process it better that way. But the Angel number stuff is
• 1:28:49
  like, I don't know. It's, it's almost like when
• 1:28:51
  you're finally like at peace because you're also realizing
• 1:28:54
  how things are connected or not connected and you're just kind
• 1:28:57
  of watching things kind of go back and forth.
• 1:28:59
  That's what I was thinking, but I don't have a good way to well.
• 1:29:02
  I I would I would use the analogy the force the.
• 1:29:06
  Force. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:29:07
  I've never watched Starbucks or Starbucks Star Wars.
• 1:29:12
  That's. Awesome.
• 1:29:15
  Damn it, I'm not. It's space.
• 1:29:16
  It's Spaceballs, by the way, but I'm gonna.
• 1:29:18
  Have to clip that now. But you know how they explain,
• 1:29:22
  you know, like how they explain the force is that it's like it's
• 1:29:25
  in all of us, it connects all things, it's in everything.
• 1:29:28
  And that's not untrue by any means.
• 1:29:30
  The force is therefore a real thing.
• 1:29:36
  I think the flash because that's what I can relate to.
• 1:29:39
  I like the. Flash too, like WBS Flash.
• 1:29:41
  Dude I watched every episode of that.
• 1:29:43
  I think I stopped at the, I don't remember what chat season.
• 1:29:46
  I mean, I haven't gone back. I liked it.
• 1:29:50
  Like out of all the you finished that, out of all the WB stuff, I
• 1:29:52
  think that was my favorite. Yeah, they.
• 1:29:54
  Did a good job with the flesh. Really good job.
• 1:29:55
  They did. Yeah.
• 1:29:57
  But I mean, I, I I just stopped it because it was pretty nerdy
• 1:29:59
  too. That I loved it.
• 1:30:01
  Might have been why I liked it so much.
• 1:30:03
  Yeah. But I think, I mean, when I say
• 1:30:04
  I stopped, I'm talking about season 7.
• 1:30:06
  I stopped. They have a lot of.
• 1:30:07
  I don't know. Honestly, I say I've watched
• 1:30:09
  every episode. I I mean they could have came
• 1:30:11
  out with more, but I haven't. I just don't watch a lot of
• 1:30:13
  television anymore, so. Because it's what you're putting
• 1:30:17
  in your body. What's what I'm allowing to be
• 1:30:19
  observed? Allowing to photon, Yeah.
• 1:30:24
  What? Do what do I filter?
• 1:30:26
  What you photon is what you filter no what I.
• 1:30:28
  Filter so well I forgot. The same OK so.
• 1:30:31
  Or photon filters. Everything is a wavelength until
• 1:30:33
  it's observed and then it magically is turned into a
• 1:30:37
  photon. And it's not a photon unless a
• 1:30:39
  human being is looking at the frequency only.
• 1:30:43
  Homo sapiens can see this. That's a.
• 1:30:45
  Great question. I've never looked that up.
• 1:30:47
  OK, but have that, has that ever been a test?
• 1:30:51
  Like what happens if you put an orangutan?
• 1:30:53
  I mean, they're really close or like a mouse or or a lizard in
• 1:30:57
  front of like, isn't that? Crazy that those are the ones
• 1:30:59
  that they test with well. Mice.
• 1:31:01
  Mice are supposed to be really close to us and and that's why
• 1:31:04
  they do a lot of medical testing on it.
• 1:31:06
  Wait. Mice are what?
• 1:31:07
  Like very. Similar to us as far as genetics
• 1:31:10
  or isn't that? Crazy.
• 1:31:12
  Well, you know what's really crazy is that if you were to
• 1:31:14
  change our DNA 1%, we'd become a dolphin.
• 1:31:17
  What? That's why dolphins are so
• 1:31:19
  smart. Well, I'm just.
• 1:31:20
  Saying like the difference between 1 human to the next is
• 1:31:22
  like .000% of differences in like genetics, makeup,
• 1:31:28
  molecules, but the same thing that made the earth, the thing
• 1:31:30
  that we're standing on made us, we're made from the exact same
• 1:31:33
  stuff isn't that? Crazy.
• 1:31:35
  So I mean we. Are connected.
• 1:31:37
  It's all connected. So.
• 1:31:40
  Then. But do you?
• 1:31:41
  So it goes back to the coincidences.
• 1:31:43
  OK, What were you going to say? No.
• 1:31:44
  He had an inner thought that I want I'm curious to hear it and.
• 1:31:47
  Hopefully he'll say it on the pod because sometimes he
• 1:31:49
  doesn't. No, because you know, you said
• 1:31:54
  and. Sometimes the way that he goes
• 1:31:55
  is. You would have not guessed it.
• 1:32:00
  You know, we change a little bit.
• 1:32:01
  We could be dolphins. And like, you seen those videos.
• 1:32:04
  You seen those videos of those dolphins hopping up and, you
• 1:32:07
  know, trying to help everybody. They knew that's where you were
• 1:32:08
  going. Yeah.
• 1:32:09
  Well, I actually. Predicted you for once, so I
• 1:32:12
  predicted you for once. Last time we went Hitler, so I
• 1:32:16
  did not see that. No, we went Nazis.
• 1:32:18
  I did not see that coming. I was listening to Nazis.
• 1:32:21
  So you did not see hey? That.
• 1:32:25
  Was such a good dad joke. Anyway, so.
• 1:32:31
  That's the one. At the beginning didn't cancel
• 1:32:33
  this at this part. Like Once Upon a time, like 1000
• 1:32:38
  years ago, women would say that they were impregnated by
• 1:32:41
  dolphins. That was not an uncommon story.
• 1:32:43
  What, y'all have never heard this?
• 1:32:46
  No. Elaborate.
• 1:32:49
  I don't. I never dope deep into that.
• 1:32:51
  I would just say when I heard that, I'm like makes sense and
• 1:32:56
  just moved on the the. Percent of the women.
• 1:32:58
  Were these? Yeah.
• 1:33:00
  Yeah. What?
• 1:33:02
  Type so I steer away from these these.
• 1:33:06
  Are the real? Red flags, you guys.
• 1:33:08
  These are the. Real red flags.
• 1:33:10
  Everyone's over here like I saw the crack.
• 1:33:13
  What are the? Real.
• 1:33:14
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:33:16
  Are you're asking me? Yeah.
• 1:33:18
  In general, not rhetorical. And yes, in general.
• 1:33:23
  A green flag for me is like this, like you had to be able to
• 1:33:27
  go real deep. Into things, if you would.
• 1:33:31
  Let me bet I would have said neck tattoos.
• 1:33:33
  Oh yeah. Neck tattoos.
• 1:33:34
  That's a that's a green flag too.
• 1:33:36
  No, I'm kidding. Stop.
• 1:33:37
  Damn it, I looked at the camera. Why'd?
• 1:33:40
  You do that. We weren't doing that anymore.
• 1:33:43
  We knew it to be. True, that's true.
• 1:33:46
  What do you want about? Did you read something?
• 1:33:48
  Yeah. You googled it so.
• 1:33:52
  Yes, educate the people stories. Exist in folklore, particularly
• 1:33:57
  in the Amazon dolphins turning into men to impregnate women.
• 1:34:02
  But one famous case involves A researcher, Margaret Howe
• 1:34:05
  Lovett, having a sexual relationship with a dolphin
• 1:34:09
  during a 1960s NASA project, though she was not impregnated.
• 1:34:14
  That's those are the. Right flags.
• 1:34:18
  Like why? Why the red?
• 1:34:20
  Flags. Why did that happen?
• 1:34:21
  At NASA, though, like we. Can be weird, but that's a red
• 1:34:24
  flag. Why did that happen at NASA
• 1:34:26
  though? Because it's all connected?
• 1:34:27
  Because it's the universe? Because we know more about our
• 1:34:30
  space than we do our oceans. And we should be really scared
• 1:34:32
  of our oceans because we're 80% water.
• 1:34:35
  And the fact that people are still not more afraid of water.
• 1:34:39
  Yeah. And the fact that people are not
• 1:34:40
  more afraid of our water still pisses me off.
• 1:34:42
  No, not afraid of. The water, the tariff out of the
• 1:34:44
  water, that's only like we know more about the unit, like the
• 1:34:46
  space. I don't think people, I don't
• 1:34:48
  think. People realize that enough.
• 1:34:50
  I say this in almost every episode at this point, huh.
• 1:34:53
  Like I'm getting to the point where I'm saying this almost at
• 1:34:56
  every single episode that we're not.
• 1:34:57
  Afraid of water or that we should be more We should.
• 1:34:59
  Be more afraid of water than our than our space.
• 1:35:02
  Oh. Yes, OK, OK.
• 1:35:03
  Well, no, I think we are because we we don't know anything about
• 1:35:06
  the water. But I don't.
• 1:35:07
  Think people realize that, you know what I mean?
• 1:35:09
  Like people are just living their life.
• 1:35:11
  Yeah, don't like give it enough attention.
• 1:35:13
  Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:16
  I mean, because you can look up and see the stars, man, you
• 1:35:20
  know? And you.
• 1:35:20
  Can't look down and see the bottom.
• 1:35:23
  That's scary. That's why I don't know how far.
• 1:35:25
  Away a star is. It's a long way away.
• 1:35:29
  That's a. That's a good point.
• 1:35:30
  We're not high, you guys, you can't see.
• 1:35:32
  The bottom of the water, Yeah, it's not that far.
• 1:35:35
  It's like what The deepest? Compared to the trench is like.
• 1:35:37
  67810 miles or something and we. Can't get to it.
• 1:35:41
  Yeah, but we can get to wait. Can we get to stars?
• 1:35:43
  No. OK, not even close.
• 1:35:45
  OK, I I'm not even convinced we made it to the moon.
• 1:35:48
  You're not. Convinced we made it to the
• 1:35:49
  moon. No, not even OK.
• 1:35:50
  We got into this in the last time on.
• 1:35:52
  Who you talked to? Apparently we have back
• 1:35:56
  engineered crafts and have been secretly traversing the stars.
• 1:36:04
  Really. Sure.
• 1:36:05
  I mean the stars that are dead, not the living stars, probably
• 1:36:09
  because the particles, because we're, we're the stars that we
• 1:36:12
  see are the dead stars. We're not able to see the real
• 1:36:15
  stars well. That, that comes, that comes
• 1:36:18
  down to like relativity and that comes.
• 1:36:20
  Down to the filter the photon. Essentially, yeah.
• 1:36:24
  I mean, because I mean because frequency can only like, OK,
• 1:36:27
  where See, when you said Einstein earlier when you were
• 1:36:30
  talking about this is a lot of his, his, his discoveries when
• 1:36:35
  you spoke on that he was the master.
• 1:36:37
  I would say that he truly was the master of the three
• 1:36:39
  dimensions, the three-dimensional, because
• 1:36:42
  that's where all of his rules of of relativity, everything exists
• 1:36:45
  inside. So a star that you're looking at
• 1:36:48
  now is light, and light can only travel at a certain speed, which
• 1:36:51
  is, According to him, the Nothing can surpass that speed,
• 1:36:55
  and it just can't except love. Have you seen Inner Cellar?
• 1:36:58
  Sorry, keep going. So that's because I, my, my, the
• 1:37:01
  way I would translate the reason why that is because you leave
• 1:37:04
  the third dimension. And that's why I think he's
• 1:37:06
  like, that's all. So.
• 1:37:09
  But the stars that you're seeing, they're so far away
• 1:37:12
  that, yes, they have died since. But worse, it took the light,
• 1:37:18
  you know, 10 million trillion years to get here.
• 1:37:21
  So that started. The stars we see now no longer
• 1:37:24
  exist technically, according to that whole theory, Right.
• 1:37:28
  Like, I mean, we've all, we've all watched fireworks.
• 1:37:31
  Yeah. It's like.
• 1:37:34
  Boom. Boom boom.
• 1:37:35
  But like they don't coordinate right because the sound moves so
• 1:37:38
  much slower than the light does. So the frequency is literally
• 1:37:42
  the the time it takes the frequency to get to the observer
• 1:37:46
  observational tool that you have.
• 1:37:48
  It's like the Thunder and the lightning.
• 1:37:50
  Same exact thing. The light frequency moves so
• 1:37:54
  much quicker. It's a higher frequency so it
• 1:37:57
  goes more quickly than the sound.
• 1:37:58
  The sound is very low frequency, the lowest actually.
• 1:38:02
  You can even get deep into like how this relates to the you
• 1:38:04
  know, in the Bible, what was the first thing God did?
• 1:38:06
  What? Did he do?
• 1:38:08
  I don't know. Genesis, back to my favorite,
• 1:38:10
  right? Oh, OK.
• 1:38:11
  I don't know. You can tell I'm not very
• 1:38:12
  religious. Sorry, so you're Catholic?
• 1:38:15
  I don't know how that's it. I don't think it gets more
• 1:38:17
  religious than that, does it? Does it?
• 1:38:19
  Oh. It's 'cause it's 'cause we
• 1:38:21
  didn't go that far into, Oh yeah, it's 'cause we were at
• 1:38:23
  break. So I was saying that like
• 1:38:27
  Mexican, Catholic, not everyone. I don't want to generalize
• 1:38:31
  anybody in it. And nothing I'm saying I want to
• 1:38:33
  generalize. But I will say that, and maybe
• 1:38:37
  even Latinos to some degree, again, not making
• 1:38:39
  generalizations, but where we were all native before we were
• 1:38:48
  conquered by the Spaniards, that's where the term Hispanic
• 1:38:52
  comes from, which is you're having some type of relation to
• 1:38:56
  them. But the real term that like when
• 1:38:58
  you talked about Latinos is Latinos.
• 1:39:01
  You don't really say Hispanic. And unless you're talking to
• 1:39:04
  someone who's from Spain, they're not technically Latinos.
• 1:39:09
  Here's a question. Oh, go ahead.
• 1:39:12
  Why does why is Latin a language that came from Europe I.
• 1:39:17
  Don't know but then. Everybody over hears Latino,
• 1:39:19
  Yeah. I don't know where the term
• 1:39:21
  Latino comes from to be honest. Latin America I think I don't
• 1:39:25
  know. Damn I'm going to be so dumb on
• 1:39:27
  this episode. I to be honest, I have 0 idea,
• 1:39:31
  but I just know that Hispanic is a, is a word that was made-up by
• 1:39:35
  the census in the 1980s because they used to describe yeah, it
• 1:39:40
  didn't exist. It was by the United States.
• 1:39:42
  Oh yeah. They're great at all that.
• 1:39:44
  Yeah, they're. Great at that stereotyping and
• 1:39:47
  all that stuff with people anyways.
• 1:39:49
  Because people not. To like each other, yeah.
• 1:39:51
  Because before people had to either be white or Mexican.
• 1:39:55
  That's how they used to describe a lot of people now.
• 1:39:58
  You're white. All Hispanic people are white
• 1:40:01
  according to the US government because I, I mean, I do
• 1:40:04
  mortgages and part of the end of the mortgage as we go through
• 1:40:08
  demographics. Yes.
• 1:40:09
  So I have to ask you, I'm required to ask you like, are
• 1:40:12
  you, you know, black native, you know, so on and so forth.
• 1:40:17
  And then I love it because it's like you can tell like the, you
• 1:40:22
  know, Latinos and Mexicans all that with whether it's if
• 1:40:26
  they've been in this situation before, because it's either
• 1:40:29
  they're like when you go through the list, Mexican, Hispanic,
• 1:40:32
  Latino, none of that's on that list.
• 1:40:34
  And then and they're looking at me, they're like Mexican.
• 1:40:38
  I'm like, OK, so that's the next question.
• 1:40:40
  So first you're white, then it's like, are you Hispanic or not
• 1:40:43
  Hispanic? That's exactly.
• 1:40:45
  And and like, so anyways, this is all because of the US census.
• 1:40:48
  This is the reason you get asked these questions that or that you
• 1:40:51
  have to do these. But growing up, that was really
• 1:40:52
  confusing growing up because it was it it, it was your identity
• 1:40:56
  and it was, and you didn't know, like I was like, well, why am I
• 1:40:59
  white? And I remember always asking my
• 1:41:00
  dad, like, dad, I know we're Mexican because we're from
• 1:41:04
  Mexico. Yeah, but what?
• 1:41:06
  Are we like but like I feel like here in the US you have to ask
• 1:41:10
  yourself what are you because of how much it's pressured on to
• 1:41:13
  you in terms of like a race I. I agree entirely.
• 1:41:17
  You know, like it's way overdone.
• 1:41:18
  Yeah. And so like you're constantly as
• 1:41:20
  a kid growing up here, we. Are like we're a country, we are
• 1:41:23
  a country of of. Immigrants.
• 1:41:27
  I mean like my my grandpa used to always tell me like again
• 1:41:29
  like one of his two. Another one of his quotes was
• 1:41:32
  the best dog is a month because you get the best from everybody.
• 1:41:34
  All of the different breeds. It's like all of my favorite
• 1:41:37
  dogs are always months and that's what Americans are like.
• 1:41:39
  We're literally like, I mean, I'm white, but you know, like
• 1:41:42
  how many different types of white am I?
• 1:41:44
  You know, the same thing. I'm sure when Mexican and it's
• 1:41:49
  all it so. So going into that a bit more,
• 1:41:51
  right, because Mexico was conquered too at some point.
• 1:41:55
  And so in the 1500's, the term is diesel is, is the term that
• 1:42:00
  was come up with because of I think the Spaniards at this
• 1:42:05
  time, or I'm not sure if it's the French, but the term mestiso
• 1:42:09
  is come up. And that's what we are like our
• 1:42:11
  race Mestiso, mestiso, Mestiso, which means that you are part
• 1:42:18
  Spaniard, but you're also part native because in Mexico it was
• 1:42:23
  native. Most Latin countries, just like
• 1:42:25
  the US, it was all native. And So what I was even trying to
• 1:42:30
  say with all of that with Catholicism is that, and what I
• 1:42:33
  love about Mexico, being a Mexican Catholic, is that a lot
• 1:42:39
  of our beliefs, like the other was Muertos, the stuff about
• 1:42:43
  Ravijan, how our rituals, I don't want to say the word
• 1:42:48
  rituals because I don't want anyone, but they're not.
• 1:42:50
  Catholic. They're not Catholic beliefs,
• 1:42:52
  they are beliefs from our ancestral background, which is
• 1:42:57
  awesome. And that's what I love.
• 1:42:58
  And that's why I think like I'm tapping more into more of my
• 1:43:01
  spirituality than I am. But it's also, it's also when
• 1:43:03
  you finally are able to get, because Mexico is also every
• 1:43:06
  country, if they're not racist or at least some type of
• 1:43:10
  colorism is an issue. Like it's like you don't want to
• 1:43:13
  be darker, you want to be lighter.
• 1:43:14
  Just about every country deals with that time.
• 1:43:16
  And we're talking Korea who has lightning creams.
• 1:43:21
  And so that's only if you can get to the point where you
• 1:43:24
  accept this, your ancestral background and in the beauty
• 1:43:29
  that there is in that because there is so much connection to
• 1:43:31
  the actual nature and the roots of everything where we originate
• 1:43:36
  from and then going back to the universe.
• 1:43:39
  Yeah. And how it's all connected.
• 1:43:42
  Because like the unfortunate thing about having lost so many
• 1:43:46
  people in my life now and the fortunate thing about it is that
• 1:43:51
  I'm learning a lot of all of our beliefs during their passing and
• 1:43:57
  how we need to honor them as they're about to pass.
• 1:44:00
  And all the different little things that we have to do that I
• 1:44:04
  wouldn't we would never do here. We would never do here as an
• 1:44:07
  Americans would not would not do here, maybe.
• 1:44:10
  And because of that connection to.
• 1:44:15
  Being American, though, means that you, it's all welcomed.
• 1:44:18
  It's all that's what I think is again, like what?
• 1:44:21
  What do you think is the why? There's so much pressure put on
• 1:44:25
  us here in the US because technically I was taught from a
• 1:44:29
  Mexican friend that when I said I'm American and he's like, I
• 1:44:34
  am, too. He's like, I'm from Central
• 1:44:36
  America or, you know, but yeah. He's like I'm.
• 1:44:38
  American though, like I've never forgot that.
• 1:44:40
  That was something that was really, I'm like eye opening to
• 1:44:42
  me was So when I've ever since then, I've defined myself as a
• 1:44:47
  member of the United States, not American.
• 1:44:51
  I mean, I am American as well. Yeah.
• 1:44:52
  But I don't isolate that to like, if, like when I call you
• 1:44:56
  American or something like that, I'd be like, well, everybody
• 1:44:59
  like half the world's American, technically.
• 1:45:02
  Like, literally yeah. Yeah, so when?
• 1:45:04
  Everybody's like I'm American, right?
• 1:45:06
  You know, like the No, I mean that yeah, America right now
• 1:45:09
  that they're all America. They're all America, like
• 1:45:12
  Southern America, South America, I.
• 1:45:14
  Don't know what, I don't know what our deal is with why we
• 1:45:17
  put. So much pressure on ourselves as
• 1:45:18
  far or on each other's and all that.
• 1:45:20
  Yeah. Like why is identity everything?
• 1:45:24
  I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
• 1:45:25
  I don't. Know 'cause like for me, yes,
• 1:45:28
  the, the identity thing was a really big thing.
• 1:45:30
  I, I think in terms of like am I Mexican, am I American, am I
• 1:45:33
  Mexican American? I'm from Mexico.
• 1:45:35
  I claim Mexico before I claim the US or I'm traveling in them.
• 1:45:40
  And I've learned to not say America and say United States or
• 1:45:44
  the States because it is different.
• 1:45:48
  Perspective is everything. I think it just comes down to
• 1:45:51
  perspective too. Like either, you know, like
• 1:45:53
  whether or not you have the perspective to see that or not
• 1:45:56
  and that that's what it comes down to.
• 1:45:58
  I think. Why do we put so much pressure
• 1:46:02
  on identity? I don't know.
• 1:46:03
  I think we're all trying to some degree at whatever level and
• 1:46:07
  state that you are in, in your own journey, you want to be able
• 1:46:10
  to find your purpose. And to some degree, purpose
• 1:46:14
  starts with figuring out who you are, and who you are starts with
• 1:46:17
  identity to. To some degree, I would.
• 1:46:20
  Disagree with that last statement.
• 1:46:21
  Everything else I will wholeheartedly agree with.
• 1:46:23
  Well, maybe. To some degree, because, because
• 1:46:25
  we. Do want to find a purpose like
• 1:46:26
  that? I feel like that's what like, I
• 1:46:29
  mean, not everybody is that way, but yeah, not.
• 1:46:30
  Every so many. Of us like or they.
• 1:46:32
  Or it is a purpose to some? Degree I think.
• 1:46:35
  Everybody thinks that though, at some point I would find it very.
• 1:46:39
  Hard to imagine like that. Nobody.
• 1:46:41
  Does no. That that you don't think that's
• 1:46:43
  somewhere along the way and that's what.
• 1:46:45
  I'm saying so like to whatever degree of like what your purpose
• 1:46:48
  is, like people will either abandoned this belief, this
• 1:46:52
  deeper belief and that's when they're just like whatever Willy
• 1:46:55
  nilly I'm going to do, I'm going to go through the motions.
• 1:46:57
  I'm going to, it's either fuck or be fucked to some degree, you
• 1:47:01
  know what I mean? Like when some people like just
• 1:47:03
  abandoned this either. Be the banana or the yeah be.
• 1:47:06
  The banana or the ovary? Yeah, no 'cause that's not
• 1:47:13
  feminine or masculine anyway. Whatever.
• 1:47:15
  OK, deeper, but that's a whole ever.
• 1:47:18
  That's a whole different episode.
• 1:47:20
  Damn. Yeah, we've had like 12 episodes
• 1:47:22
  so far we've had. Like 12 episodes so far.
• 1:47:27
  Where? Where are you going to go?
• 1:47:31
  OK, so don't worry about it. OK.
• 1:47:34
  The identity, yeah, the identity thing, like when I was saying
• 1:47:38
  earlier, maybe at some point because you have this pressure
• 1:47:42
  as an immigrant to show that you belong here.
• 1:47:47
  I can imagine and or someone who's first or second Gen. even,
• 1:47:52
  like, I mean, that starts to get pushed down.
• 1:47:54
  You, you have this pressure to show that I do belong and that I
• 1:48:01
  can't. I should have these things just
• 1:48:04
  as much as you. And so you have to perform
• 1:48:07
  higher. And so then use eventually
• 1:48:09
  that's your identity, the performance, the the production
• 1:48:16
  of whatever. And again, I used to equate my
• 1:48:18
  value to my, my what I would my output.
• 1:48:23
  And so then the identity part, what I'm saying is now I've kind
• 1:48:26
  of gone down to more values and saying like that's how I would
• 1:48:29
  describe myself, character based, value based, whatever.
• 1:48:33
  And that is still kind of an identity.
• 1:48:37
  Like if you kind of where to think of yourself as a little
• 1:48:39
  kid and you had a project and somebody was and your teacher
• 1:48:43
  was like, OK, describe yourself. Or you were doing an ice breaker
• 1:48:46
  question at a whatever job and was like describe yourself.
• 1:48:50
  And how would you describe yourself?
• 1:48:53
  Weird. Me or you?
• 1:48:55
  Hold. I'm sorry.
• 1:48:56
  Yeah, I know. I.
• 1:48:57
  Don't know, I'm just kidding. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:00
  But you were saying you disagree with the identity part.
• 1:49:03
  Well, like that what, what as far as the the path you were
• 1:49:06
  going through, like everybody asks themselves, you know, why
• 1:49:09
  am I here? And then like you, you create
• 1:49:11
  and like you have identity to to helps you support that.
• 1:49:15
  But I mean, yes, that word. And I guess it depends on how
• 1:49:19
  you use that word, because if I were to identify myself as
• 1:49:22
  something I would identify as Travis went, Oh.
• 1:49:27
  Just your name, well. That is what I that is who I am,
• 1:49:30
  yeah. Yeah, like I.
• 1:49:31
  Don't identify as anything else outside of that, Yeah.
• 1:49:35
  A man, you wouldn't identify yourself as a male.
• 1:49:38
  Maybe it's the US Census. Well, I mean.
• 1:49:41
  Yeah, right. You know what I mean, Right.
• 1:49:42
  It's like. Well, I have to fucking answer
• 1:49:44
  these fucking questions. You actually.
• 1:49:46
  Answer those like dude, like you.
• 1:49:47
  Don't throw that away when you get it, no.
• 1:49:49
  Because because that's how they appoint, they appoint people to
• 1:49:52
  the House of Representatives in the Senate.
• 1:49:54
  So. It's it's.
• 1:49:55
  Important. It's what I've heard, but yeah,
• 1:49:59
  we. Can't trust our government.
• 1:50:01
  Is that where you're getting at? Oh gosh, let's.
• 1:50:02
  Yeah, let's start on that topic. I mean, no, honestly, I'm kind
• 1:50:07
  of dancing around that is because I do believe that a lot
• 1:50:09
  of the reason why identity is pushed away it is today is
• 1:50:12
  because that's how you control people.
• 1:50:14
  Because if you identify as something and that group of
• 1:50:18
  something changes how they approach or do something, then
• 1:50:20
  you as someone who identifies as it is required to change your
• 1:50:24
  thought as well to be part of that identity.
• 1:50:28
  So if you want to control somebody, politics is a perfect
• 1:50:30
  example why it's called identity politics.
• 1:50:34
  For a. Reason.
• 1:50:35
  Because if you can get somebody who identifies as a Democrat and
• 1:50:38
  another person who identifies as a Republican, I bet you they're
• 1:50:42
  more similar than a human and a dolphin, which is 1%.
• 1:50:48
  Remember of why you change 1% of our, our DNA and you become a
• 1:50:52
  dolphin. But again, I would, I would just
• 1:50:55
  my mind says that it like someone who identifies as this
• 1:50:57
  and someone who identifies as that are going to be more than
• 1:51:00
  99% aligned. Yet we're going to allow less
• 1:51:04
  than 1% separate us so greatly to where we are today as a, as a
• 1:51:10
  society, to where people are just, I mean, what has gone on
• 1:51:15
  in like the last 10 years that's being promoted again, Remember
• 1:51:18
  when you're watching television, you're allowing those, that
• 1:51:21
  image to be part of, you're allowing that into your thought
• 1:51:24
  process. You're allowing.
• 1:51:25
  Phantoms. No.
• 1:51:26
  You're fan. Photons.
• 1:51:28
  Photons. Photons.
• 1:51:29
  Photons, yes. Well, not even that part of it,
• 1:51:32
  just the fact that you're, like I said, you like, like your,
• 1:51:35
  your thought. You don't control what thoughts
• 1:51:37
  come to you. You control.
• 1:51:39
  Trauma. But you control you control what
• 1:51:42
  you, what you allow into what you're, you're you're the
• 1:51:45
  observable universe that you that you can have, which is you
• 1:51:48
  know through your site, you know your 5 or 6 senses, depending
• 1:51:53
  you will like what you allow in is what's the precursor for what
• 1:51:57
  your thoughts are. So it when you're watching the
• 1:51:59
  television, it all you see, all you see is how much Democrats,
• 1:52:02
  this Republic, it's everywhere. And that's not on accident.
• 1:52:07
  Like that is all designed. And so it's designed for
• 1:52:10
  control, absolute control, the easiest way to control a group
• 1:52:13
  of people. Or how do you conquer someone
• 1:52:16
  like like what's the oldest rule of, I should say oldest little
• 1:52:20
  over the top, but divide and conquer.
• 1:52:22
  I saw where you're going with that.
• 1:52:23
  So you want you want somebody to be weak, you divide them up if
• 1:52:27
  and when people have numbers. And we the people of the United
• 1:52:30
  States of America are the power. Oh.
• 1:52:34
  Yeah. And if you don't want us to have
• 1:52:36
  the power and you want to make decisions for us, you have to
• 1:52:38
  separate us. Yes, 100%.
• 1:52:40
  And that's. Why and so when?
• 1:52:42
  I feel like all this identity is being pushed so hard.
• 1:52:45
  It's the easiest way to easiest way to separate people.
• 1:52:48
  Easiest way is that now they identify as this.
• 1:52:51
  So they have they've cosigned. So now they have to behave like
• 1:52:54
  that according to if they want to be participant in that
• 1:52:57
  identity. Nobody want no per I don't, I
• 1:53:01
  don't see people thinking it's OK to destroy a Tesla because of
• 1:53:05
  whatever, whatever that was all about.
• 1:53:07
  I don't even know. I'm really that like not
• 1:53:09
  connected. I just, you know, there's, it
• 1:53:11
  was a lot of stuff. And I'm sure you guys could name
• 1:53:13
  another dozen things that I'm probably oblivious to because I
• 1:53:17
  tried really hard not to allow that into my, my reality, my
• 1:53:22
  universe. But that's where I would go with
• 1:53:26
  it. But.
• 1:53:27
  And I, I like that you went from figuring out why we're here to
• 1:53:33
  like, like what we identify as. It was.
• 1:53:36
  I thought that was an interesting like step that you
• 1:53:38
  took because I, that makes sense why you're doing that.
• 1:53:42
  It's also a great way to weaponize people.
• 1:53:44
  Yeah. Against each other.
• 1:53:45
  It's, it's like it goes back to, is it better to know or to
• 1:53:49
  understand? You know, I think that's what it
• 1:53:52
  goes back to. Because when it's internalized,
• 1:53:53
  though for you, I think it's both, you know what I mean?
• 1:53:57
  Because you're not gonna weaponize it.
• 1:53:59
  Yeah. You're not gonna weaponize it
• 1:54:00
  for yourself. You know, it's when you're like
• 1:54:04
  forcing someone, forcing your beliefs onto somebody else.
• 1:54:10
  But your identity you don't have to.
• 1:54:12
  Yeah. But what what I'm saying is like
• 1:54:16
  to know and to understand, like I think that's helpful for you
• 1:54:18
  as an individual because you're not gonna weaponize that for
• 1:54:21
  you, 'cause you have self-interest and you have,
• 1:54:25
  yeah. I mean, you're not trying to
• 1:54:26
  self sabotage yourself. Typically.
• 1:54:30
  Typically. Yeah, like, I mean
• 1:54:32
  subconsciously it's amazing. But then we go into
• 1:54:35
  neuroscience. Yeah.
• 1:54:36
  Yeah, it's really amazing how that, you know, like the self
• 1:54:40
  sabotage is real. Yeah.
• 1:54:42
  I mean, like, OK, perfect example.
• 1:54:43
  What I love is one of the analogies about the glass
• 1:54:45
  ceiling, you know where that term came from.
• 1:54:48
  So from what I understand is fleece.
• 1:54:52
  Fleece, if you put like a if you put clear plat, like you put
• 1:54:56
  fleece in a in a bottle and you put a lid on it, if a clear
• 1:54:58
  plastic lid, they will jump and hit that plastic and they will
• 1:55:03
  realize that there's now there's a ceiling there.
• 1:55:06
  You remove the plastic, they'll never jump out.
• 1:55:09
  They there's they they created their own limitation of where
• 1:55:13
  they think, how high they can go and like the next generations of
• 1:55:17
  fleas, will not jump. Yeah, 'cause it is genetic.
• 1:55:21
  Well, it's. It's it's taught.
• 1:55:23
  Yeah. It's like we don't, we don't
• 1:55:24
  jump higher than that, but it. Is genetic too, because that's
• 1:55:27
  how generational trauma happens for sure.
• 1:55:30
  Well, I mean 'cause when? We go down neuroscience stuff
• 1:55:32
  like why is it that you have so much anxiety?
• 1:55:35
  Well, I. Mean, so then we we can really
• 1:55:37
  get into that would be like like nurture versus nature, you know,
• 1:55:41
  like is how much, how much of who we are is the environment
• 1:55:43
  that we were born in versus versus the genes?
• 1:55:46
  And is it actually that the genetics which we can dive into
• 1:55:49
  like epigenetics which is? I tap out there, I don't know.
• 1:55:52
  So I don't know what that is. So epigenetics is like I.
• 1:55:55
  I forget the specifics and I'm very layman at it at best, but a
• 1:56:00
  large a large percentage and I'd be curious to see how much like
• 1:56:05
  even like 80% or greater of our genes are not actually fixed.
• 1:56:10
  They can change at any time and they change based upon our
• 1:56:14
  environment. So our environments actually
• 1:56:17
  will affect our DNA. Yes, I.
• 1:56:19
  Can see. Yeah, I mean.
• 1:56:21
  It makes sense, right? Because if you take OK, like
• 1:56:23
  like who's ever seen the movie trade in places, Eddie Murphy
• 1:56:26
  movie from like the 80s, OK, great, great.
• 1:56:29
  Perfect example. But Long story short, take Eddie
• 1:56:33
  Murphy. He's a homeless man on the curb.
• 1:56:35
  Pretend like he has no legs, trying to get some, you know,
• 1:56:37
  begging for money. You have Dan Aykroyd, who is the
• 1:56:41
  white successful, you know, 80s suit wearing business guy,
• 1:56:44
  right? Well, his boss, his two bosses,
• 1:56:47
  they make a, they make a wager that they could take Eddie
• 1:56:49
  Murphy from the street and put him in Dan Aykroyd's life and he
• 1:56:53
  will perform just as well, if not better than Dan Aykroyd
• 1:56:56
  does. And if we take, if we take
• 1:56:59
  switch Dan Aykroyd's environment and put him in the same
• 1:57:01
  situation that Eddie Murphy's in, he'll be as bad, if not
• 1:57:04
  worse. It's a good movie.
• 1:57:08
  It's not that deep. It's really not that it's an
• 1:57:11
  Eddie movie. It's an Eddie, it sounds like.
• 1:57:12
  A It sounds like a remake of Good Fortune right now that I've
• 1:57:15
  seen recently. What's that?
• 1:57:17
  Good Fortune is the one with how old?
• 1:57:19
  Is that movie? It's very.
• 1:57:20
  Recent it just came out. I just saw it in the movie
• 1:57:22
  theater. Of course is the remake.
• 1:57:23
  Is what you're. Saying, yeah, yeah, I'm saying
• 1:57:25
  that that's remake of that because it's a what's his.
• 1:57:28
  Name. One of them is an Angel and it
• 1:57:33
  Keanu Reeves Keanu. Reeves, I want to see that
• 1:57:35
  anything. Keanu, I want to check these.
• 1:57:36
  I'm sorry. Is the other actor and Seth
• 1:57:41
  Rogen Seth? Rogen.
• 1:57:42
  Yeah, Seth Rogen is a successful actor.
• 1:57:45
  The other guy that you just mentioned is the one.
• 1:57:46
  Yeah, yeah, He's the poor person.
• 1:57:49
  And then if they were to switch lives, I.
• 1:57:51
  Remember that. OK, I've seen the preview for
• 1:57:52
  that. Yeah, right.
• 1:57:53
  He wishes to be. Yeah.
• 1:57:55
  Yeah. And then he doesn't want to give
• 1:57:56
  it up or something like that. I just.
• 1:57:57
  Well, one. Of them is like I don't want to
• 1:57:59
  change. This is amazing.
• 1:58:00
  And then he was like, you were supposed to want to change.
• 1:58:02
  And he was like, I don't want to change.
• 1:58:04
  He's trying to teach him a lesson.
• 1:58:05
  It backfired. Backfired and Keanu Reeves is
• 1:58:08
  the Angel and everyone. 'S like yeah and.
• 1:58:10
  Everyone's like whoa, he's so hot.
• 1:58:14
  It really tap into that. He's a beautiful.
• 1:58:19
  Human being, he's a. Beautiful human being.
• 1:58:21
  Yeah, Keanu Reeves is really beautiful, at least.
• 1:58:23
  What we've seen, I don't know personally, but.
• 1:58:26
  It's like Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds.
• 1:58:29
  Yeah, he's a beautiful human being.
• 1:58:31
  I think he's. So funny he's.
• 1:58:32
  Hilarious, he's so. Funny, like, and that's why I
• 1:58:35
  think he's beautiful, because he's so funny.
• 1:58:37
  Absolutely. That is, that is.
• 1:58:38
  Beauty. Yeah, I would love to think
• 1:58:40
  that. Which Chris is a A star Lord
• 1:58:46
  Pratt. OK, OK.
• 1:58:47
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude.
• 1:58:48
  Hilarious. I love that dude.
• 1:58:50
  Yeah. I, I, I hope that's.
• 1:58:53
  The like the captain of Guardians of the Galaxy.
• 1:58:56
  Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:58:58
  Yes. Oh, he is good.
• 1:58:59
  Aren't they related? No, they're not that I'm
• 1:59:01
  thinking of, of what's all I know.
• 1:59:03
  Is it seems like every actor's either Orion or a Chris these
• 1:59:05
  days. I don't know what.
• 1:59:08
  Like, there's a lot of them there.
• 1:59:09
  It's 'cause no, he, Chris and somebody else are related.
• 1:59:13
  His his his brother is the one who is dating Miley Cyrus.
• 1:59:17
  I think he's Miley Cyrus's boyfriend.
• 1:59:20
  You know, it's almost like when people Identity.
• 1:59:22
  Yeah, it's almost like when people.
• 1:59:23
  Yeah, it was Miley Cyrus's boyfriend.
• 1:59:25
  Or was was was not anymore? Or it's almost like A$AP Rocky.
• 1:59:29
  I love A$AP Rocky, but people will be like, Oh yeah, Rihanna's
• 1:59:32
  husband. And it's like, I didn't know.
• 1:59:34
  That for real? You were married.
• 1:59:35
  Nice. Yeah.
• 1:59:36
  Yeah, you know they got. Two good jobs.
• 1:59:37
  They got 2. Kids, they go ASAP.
• 1:59:39
  Yeah, I know. For real.
• 1:59:40
  For real. I mean I love ASAP I feel.
• 1:59:42
  Like I feel. Like people sleep on him, yeah.
• 1:59:45
  Honestly for like a lot of the, you know, non millennial and
• 1:59:49
  such that like like a lot of them, I'm like, I'm having a
• 1:59:52
  hard time Co signing for some of these dudes man.
• 1:59:54
  Like they don't really do it for me.
• 1:59:56
  ASAP. ASAP.
• 1:59:57
  Grab me. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:59:58
  For sure. Yeah.
• 2:00:01
  Damn. I mean, we could have gone so
• 2:00:03
  many different directions, but I'm getting word of some of the
• 2:00:06
  timing stuff. So dusty.
• 2:00:08
  Where do you want to head next? I have an activity or I have
• 2:00:12
  lightning round. You decide.
• 2:00:14
  What's the activity? OK.
• 2:00:16
  Because it's a surprise. To just choose OK.
• 2:00:19
  It's a surprise. The activity is like it's
• 2:00:21
  history repeating itself, rhyming itself or something new.
• 2:00:24
  And so we're going to ask Travis here some of the issues or
• 2:00:29
  things that are happening. And I want to know whether you
• 2:00:31
  think things are repeating itself, rhyming as in like
• 2:00:34
  they're not identical, but it reminds me of this similar
• 2:00:37
  energy from this time, or it's completely something new.
• 2:00:41
  That's the activity. And then lightning round.
• 2:00:43
  Well, you know, lightning round. I dig that question, I said.
• 2:00:46
  I like that question, OK. You want to do the activity I do
• 2:00:49
  OK, let's do the activity. We can do both.
• 2:00:51
  I don't know. OK, let's do both.
• 2:00:52
  OK OK, this is an activity and I used AI to help me with this.
• 2:00:56
  So sorry used. What AI to?
• 2:00:58
  Help me with this. Sure.
• 2:01:01
  Make sure you source what you get from AI.
• 2:01:03
  But yeah, it's still kind of yeah.
• 2:01:05
  I mean, yeah, I mean, these are issues that everybody used
• 2:01:08
  called. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:01:09
  OK. So, yeah, I want to because
• 2:01:11
  we've been talking about history, we've been talking
• 2:01:13
  about frequencies, we've been talking about photons, we've
• 2:01:14
  been talking about ovaries, bananas and dolphins.
• 2:01:18
  And so again it's. A great.
• 2:01:21
  Conversation. Yes.
• 2:01:23
  That's the description ovaries. Bananas and dolphins, yes.
• 2:01:29
  That's the title. OK, so you already understood
• 2:01:33
  history repeating, History rhyming or something new.
• 2:01:36
  The housing pricing crisis and unaffordable rent.
• 2:01:41
  Rent is outpacing income almost everywhere.
• 2:01:45
  Families can't afford homes. Institutional investors are
• 2:01:48
  buying entire neighborhoods. Is that history repeating
• 2:01:51
  itself? Is it rhyming or is it something
• 2:01:54
  new? That is a really good question.
• 2:01:58
  I. Know, I know, I know.
• 2:02:00
  So I. Think it's a lot of.
• 2:02:02
  All of that. I was really excited last night
• 2:02:03
  working on this I think. It's a lot of all.
• 2:02:05
  I think it's it's, it's not one, it's not a because history is
• 2:02:11
  repeating itself and it always has.
• 2:02:12
  It just looks like we just have to look.
• 2:02:14
  We it depends on how far back you go.
• 2:02:16
  I don't, I don't have an actual example of this exact situation
• 2:02:21
  because there is kind of a rhyme.
• 2:02:23
  The rhyme would be all right, dude, why did you have to go
• 2:02:28
  there? So the housing crisis is really
• 2:02:31
  like what I chopped this to is it's a lot deeper than housing.
• 2:02:35
  It's not. Housing isn't the crisis, the
• 2:02:36
  dollar is the crisis and all the like.
• 2:02:39
  Basically everything that we've been experiencing, like all of
• 2:02:42
  the problems that we're dealing with right now is a by product
• 2:02:45
  of Richard Nixon removing the dollar from the gold standard,
• 2:02:50
  which I believe was 1971 was the one that took place.
• 2:02:52
  Richard Nathan is the one that did the war on drugs to No no.
• 2:02:56
  Richard Nixon was, I'm not a crook.
• 2:02:58
  He was the 1st president ever impeached.
• 2:03:00
  War on drugs was the that Reagan.
• 2:03:04
  Yes. Reagan, Yeah.
• 2:03:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, like. Yeah, like Republicans like.
• 2:03:10
  That's when it switches. That's when it switches, right?
• 2:03:13
  When Because Democrats were used to be Republicans and
• 2:03:16
  Republicans, you know. What I mean, no, that's a long
• 2:03:18
  time ago, that's even. Longer, OK, OK.
• 2:03:20
  But see, but they always do this again, that's all identity and
• 2:03:23
  like, let's, that's all. That's all like.
• 2:03:26
  Housing crising dollar. Let's go back.
• 2:03:28
  OK, so. To me, it's like the issue is in
• 2:03:31
  a housing crisis. It's it's a dollar crisis.
• 2:03:34
  So I mean, if you look at the like, from like every statistic
• 2:03:37
  that took place from that moment, the difference in
• 2:03:40
  disparity between the people who have money and the people who do
• 2:03:42
  not have money has just gone exponentially, like has
• 2:03:45
  increased. Not only that, but the value of
• 2:03:47
  what an actual dollar can do. People like, nothing's changing
• 2:03:51
  the dollars what's changing? And it's relative because
• 2:03:53
  that's, that's our measuring stick.
• 2:03:55
  And since it's like, since the rulers actually changing, we
• 2:03:58
  can't see that the like what we're measuring is changing.
• 2:04:02
  So it's imagine having a yardstick that at one point was
• 2:04:05
  3 inches. Now it's 3 feet and we're still
• 2:04:09
  using the same yardstick and, and, and thinking that there's
• 2:04:11
  no relativity, that it is the same thing.
• 2:04:14
  So the housing crisis is a dollar problem and the dollar is
• 2:04:19
  worth like 3% of what it was worth even less, I believe in
• 2:04:23
  1971. Like what $1.00 would do in 1971
• 2:04:27
  would be similar to what I mean, ask Google.
• 2:04:33
  Like the relationship between like the value of a dollar in
• 2:04:36
  1971 versus now. What would $1.00 equal today?
• 2:04:41
  And it's, and it's been extremely bad in the last 10
• 2:04:43
  years ever since I mean COVID and like all the, and because
• 2:04:46
  it's and it's and because this is what you got to realize is
• 2:04:48
  that scarcity absolutely. But it's actually, it's almost
• 2:04:54
  the opposite because when you have a dollar, when you have a
• 2:04:58
  dollar, I mean, you're, you're right on track.
• 2:05:00
  But when you have a dollar that doesn't have anything that it's
• 2:05:03
  tied to and you can make as much of it as you want, like so it's
• 2:05:07
  8. To 1/8.
• 2:05:08
  Dollars to $1.00. I don't believe that dude that
• 2:05:11
  sounds I've managed. It's way worse than that.
• 2:05:13
  So it's 700%. 700% so no, it's so it's 700 to one or am I
• 2:05:20
  wrong? No, that would be $7.00 to one,
• 2:05:21
  right? All right.
• 2:05:23
  So, but so it's like, so the dollar is worth 700% less than
• 2:05:28
  it was, you know, 50 years ago. And that's what we've seen in
• 2:05:32
  the last decade is that the rent's not going up.
• 2:05:34
  Houses aren't going up in value. The dollar is going down in
• 2:05:37
  value. But a house is an asset.
• 2:05:39
  There's a reason why it's called real.
• 2:05:42
  Like it's this really big deal that people are not respecting.
• 2:05:44
  And one of the reasons I love what I like, what I'm fascinated
• 2:05:46
  by what I do is because I work in real estate.
• 2:05:51
  That word is important. Very, very, very important, not
• 2:05:54
  only but legally, but in all, in all actuality, that this is a
• 2:05:58
  real thing. It's an asset.
• 2:06:00
  It's real. It does not change in value, but
• 2:06:02
  what it's measured up against the yardstick that keeps growing
• 2:06:05
  is changing. Now it does appreciate.
• 2:06:08
  Don't get me wrong. There is appreciation in housing
• 2:06:10
  and it's about supply and demand.
• 2:06:12
  And there is a huge there. There was, there is a huge
• 2:06:14
  shortage in housing and that was from like the housing crisis or
• 2:06:18
  the, the financial crisis of 2010 was statistically every
• 2:06:22
  decade from like 1960 to 2010, like we made like 6,000,000
• 2:06:27
  homes like clockwork. Then from 2010 to 2020, we only
• 2:06:31
  made like 600,000. Yeah, like we made like less
• 2:06:34
  than 10% of what we normally did in that decade now.
• 2:06:37
  But our population grew, everything grew.
• 2:06:42
  And you had a combination of because of like, like the
• 2:06:47
  student debt crisis and a number of variable of other things that
• 2:06:52
  the, the, the average first time homebuyer was growing in age.
• 2:06:55
  They weren't moving out. They were staying at home with
• 2:06:57
  mom and dad until like, I think right now the average age for a
• 2:07:00
  first time homebuyer is 31 years old or 33 years old.
• 2:07:04
  So, so like now you have this flood of people who finally are
• 2:07:08
  of age because people like the generation, I don't know what's
• 2:07:12
  after millennials, Gen. Z.
• 2:07:15
  So like Gen. Z had to deal with Gen.
• 2:07:18
  Alpha? And then Gen.
• 2:07:19
  Z, No, Gen. Z And then Gen.
• 2:07:20
  Alpha. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:07:20
  Cuz you go from AZ back to a so the the they were delayed
• 2:07:28
  because like they weren't like not only in home ownership of
• 2:07:31
  marriage, everything because of debt.
• 2:07:33
  They like no generation has ever come out with as much debt as
• 2:07:36
  Gen. Z and probably millennials too.
• 2:07:38
  I don't know exactly, but probably I can see that, Yeah.
• 2:07:40
  I mean, because with I feel like I'm talking about.
• 2:07:43
  College crisis and all of that. Well, I feel.
• 2:07:44
  Like one of the greatest, One of the greatest.
• 2:07:47
  Like refills. Yeah, there you go.
• 2:07:53
  Like like one of the greatest forms of predatory lending, a
• 2:07:57
  student debt. Yeah, 100%.
• 2:08:00
  Yeah. We're talking about an 18 year
• 2:08:01
  old and you're not actually educating them and especially
• 2:08:04
  when this don't worry about. Paying it back, yeah.
• 2:08:06
  And the. Student like Oh my God and how
• 2:08:09
  it's. And they don't know anything.
• 2:08:10
  How much intuition is or tuition has changed?
• 2:08:13
  That's a funny interesting. Where do you have tuition and
• 2:08:15
  intuition anyway? Yeah.
• 2:08:18
  Yes, OK. We're still on this activity, so
• 2:08:21
  next next week, so. Oh, so there's more questions.
• 2:08:23
  So but yes, so the problem is, so I guess in this form, I would
• 2:08:26
  say it's it's a rhyme. But if you want to go back even
• 2:08:29
  further to like the last like like the last currency, world
• 2:08:34
  currency that fell, then I bet you it's repeating itself.
• 2:08:37
  But we'd probably have to go back to some kind of like, Roman
• 2:08:39
  coin or something. That's how far like.
• 2:08:41
  But I would imagine. But you, I guarantee you can
• 2:08:45
  find a moment in time that perfectly mirrors what's going
• 2:08:47
  on right now. Yeah, if you really get down
• 2:08:50
  with your history. Do you want to ask the next one
• 2:08:52
  the most? Recent currency that failed this
• 2:08:54
  Venezuelan dollar? Well.
• 2:08:56
  I mean as far as a world currency like what the whole
• 2:08:58
  world used has the like the the the measure they.
• 2:09:01
  Sent in. Yeah, they call it the US Star
• 2:09:03
  Wars the reserve. Yeah, the reason well and and at
• 2:09:05
  this moment is a reserve currency because because of the
• 2:09:09
  Fed is a reserve and. Isn't it the US dollar that's
• 2:09:13
  the reserve 1 and that's why we have a lot of we at the United
• 2:09:16
  States has so much power right now and so much influence over
• 2:09:19
  the other not. Anymore, but yes, we have since
• 2:09:22
  since which was the what you call it Accord, which was when
• 2:09:27
  we removed ourselves from the gold standard.
• 2:09:29
  We literally we defaulted on almost everything.
• 2:09:31
  Like we literally still the whole world.
• 2:09:33
  Fuck you. We're not giving you any gold
• 2:09:34
  and we're not using it anymore. We're going to use the dollar
• 2:09:38
  and one of the best moves that we ever did was we made an
• 2:09:41
  arrangement with which I believe is a Saudi, don't quote me on
• 2:09:44
  that, but you know, you're Middle Eastern like where they
• 2:09:47
  oil cannot be traded if it's not sold and bought in the US
• 2:09:51
  dollar. You cannot take yen.
• 2:09:53
  You cannot take any other currency and buy oil.
• 2:09:56
  You would have to buy U.S. dollars then buy oil.
• 2:09:59
  That's what gave us the control after gold didn't.
• 2:10:02
  They just and that. Just ended now.
• 2:10:04
  Now the first time it was not renewed was this was last year.
• 2:10:07
  So we know or this year or or no or it ends here soon.
• 2:10:10
  Yeah, the first. Transaction not using the dollar
• 2:10:13
  was like a few months ago, that's what.
• 2:10:15
  I'm saying so we're in a unique situation, so.
• 2:10:20
  Who's that mystery guy, Michael? Maybe you'll find out one day.
• 2:10:23
  Yeah, keep watching the box. Sexy voice.
• 2:10:27
  Yeah, he actually sounds. Does he look like that in
• 2:10:29
  person? I don't know.
• 2:10:29
  Girls, He does. Does he has a neck tattoo?
• 2:10:42
  Do you want to go? What's the I see you in here?
• 2:10:45
  The. Next or you want me to?
• 2:10:50
  Go for it, OK? I'm a pick one instead right
• 2:10:56
  now. Side hustle grind.
• 2:11:00
  Everyone has a side hustle. DoorDash plus freelance plus
• 2:11:05
  Poshmark. Are we repeating grind culture
• 2:11:08
  because of where we are at right now?
• 2:11:10
  What's grind? Culture.
• 2:11:11
  Like this hide, hustle, grind like that.
• 2:11:15
  We need to have multiple jobs in order to be able to do things.
• 2:11:19
  Are we repeating things? Is this history repeating
• 2:11:21
  itself? Is this rhyming?
• 2:11:22
  Is this something now I feel like?
• 2:11:24
  That that could literally be the same byproduct of the last
• 2:11:26
  conversation. Yeah.
• 2:11:28
  Maybe because. Everybody who owns, no, no, no,
• 2:11:29
  no, it's a great question, great question.
• 2:11:31
  But everybody who has had the assets like OK, so I have
• 2:11:34
  $100,000 house in 1980, it's worth like $1,000,000 right now,
• 2:11:38
  right? So everybody, the more assets
• 2:11:40
  you have, the more homes you own in assets are not just homes,
• 2:11:43
  but just assets, period. The more that you have of things
• 2:11:47
  that are real that you can't like.
• 2:11:49
  That's why the rich, the rich is getting richer, not because of
• 2:11:52
  like there, there's some evil plot going on.
• 2:11:54
  I mean, there could be, let's not go there, but Illuminati.
• 2:11:57
  Yeah. But but it really is just a
• 2:11:59
  byproduct of the fact that if you have an asset, you're going
• 2:12:03
  to continue to become richer just because of what you own and
• 2:12:05
  possess. And if you don't, if you, if you
• 2:12:07
  weren't for since 71, if you weren't part of that game, it's
• 2:12:12
  a 700% difference between where you are and where you were.
• 2:12:15
  So the, the grind culture right now, the hustle culture, it's
• 2:12:18
  always man, I feel like that was that was my generation.
• 2:12:21
  And to like and like being of coming of age at like the turn
• 2:12:24
  of the 21st century. All we fucking thought about and
• 2:12:27
  talked about was hustling. That was all me and my people
• 2:12:30
  did. We was, that's all it was like
• 2:12:32
  that's all we lived and breathed was hustle.
• 2:12:35
  I feel like the younger people aren't necessarily like that at
• 2:12:39
  all. I mean, again, you don't ever.
• 2:12:42
  And one thing I will say, to quote my son, he told me a few
• 2:12:47
  years ago, he said dad only the Sith deal in absolutes only.
• 2:12:51
  The Sith. Deal in absolutes.
• 2:12:55
  Yeah, the rule too. Dude, yeah.
• 2:12:56
  So well, no, but he dropped that on me meaning like like only the
• 2:12:58
  sit deal in that way, like so whenever you say like, I try to
• 2:13:01
  refrain from using the words like always and never because
• 2:13:04
  and like all people, you know, because it's not true like and
• 2:13:06
  like so when I when I speak on younger ones, like.
• 2:13:09
  When? Yeah, when I speak, when I say I
• 2:13:11
  don't see that same hustle from like the next generation or the
• 2:13:14
  people who are, you know, of age in 2010 and 2020.
• 2:13:19
  Of course there's going to be, there's always going to be them.
• 2:13:21
  But, and maybe it was just my immediate environment, but like,
• 2:13:24
  if you look at the music, all the music talked about was
• 2:13:28
  money, women, possession, all of that.
• 2:13:31
  Right. Fuck.
• 2:13:32
  Bitches get money. So y'all.
• 2:13:36
  Can see what he's teasing. Oh.
• 2:13:40
  Shit, I did that on. Camera so it's.
• 2:13:43
  Like that one time as bad. As what I did on.
• 2:13:46
  Camera 3. Episodes ago so.
• 2:13:49
  This is. A2 parter too so.
• 2:13:52
  Really. True, this is a 2 parter 100%
• 2:13:56
  but. I mean, I'm sure you can.
• 2:13:58
  It's OK. No, we got out of like the last
• 2:14:00
  two. Hours of us talking.
• 2:14:01
  You got to get 20 minutes of of actual quality content there,
• 2:14:03
  I'm sure. So yeah, 2.
• 2:14:05
  Clips 2 clips. Yeah, two clips.
• 2:14:06
  Yeah, 2 shorts. That's all you're going to get.
• 2:14:08
  Oh. No, we're no, no, no, we're as
• 2:14:09
  in like, no, we don't, we don't cut things out.
• 2:14:12
  I'm just being sarcastic. Part 1 and a Part 2 Sarcasm,
• 2:14:15
  but. So, but OK, if I would to when
• 2:14:19
  you were asking the question and what ran through my head was, is
• 2:14:22
  I don't think that the side hustle is the way to be.
• 2:14:24
  That's yeah. Because if you're, if you're
• 2:14:26
  putting, I've never seen people put 50% energy in 50% energy
• 2:14:32
  into two different things and then and get nearly the same
• 2:14:35
  amount of outcome as if they put 100% into one thing.
• 2:14:38
  Yeah. So.
• 2:14:39
  I'm I'm starting to sell Pokémon and magic cards online.
• 2:14:43
  OK. And I'm putting less than 8
• 2:14:46
  hours a day into it and we're going to see how long it takes
• 2:14:49
  for that to pay off. OK.
• 2:14:52
  I'm not saying like, well, listen, so now like, like I'm
• 2:14:55
  not saying that there's anything wrong with and, you know, like
• 2:14:57
  do you and hustle like you got to do what you got to do to
• 2:14:59
  connect dots. Like, I mean, I don't, I'm not
• 2:15:02
  the type of person that believes you should like really rely on
• 2:15:04
  anything other than your own abilities.
• 2:15:07
  Yeah. But what I would say is that if
• 2:15:10
  that if if you put in that little amount of time in it and
• 2:15:13
  the reward out gains what you're doing, you should figure out a
• 2:15:15
  way to make that your thing. And you should, you should, you
• 2:15:18
  should. That should be an exit out of
• 2:15:20
  what you're doing. Yeah, side.
• 2:15:21
  Hostels need to be gateway drugs, yes. 1000%.
• 2:15:25
  Yeah, where? We inevitably we're going to be
• 2:15:27
  mixing uppers and Downers. It's you got to.
• 2:15:32
  Bounce your. It's the.
• 2:15:33
  Next logical step, man, it's just what you do.
• 2:15:37
  Oh my God, man. OK, hold on.
• 2:15:43
  Well, it's 'cause I'm trying to figure out, like, where to go.
• 2:15:49
  OK, well you know, it's 'cause we would have done lightning
• 2:15:52
  round next and I was I, I don't. What was the first thing that
• 2:15:59
  you did that you want to consider a side hustle?
• 2:16:02
  What was? The first thing I did make music
• 2:16:06
  actually, dude, that's all I've ever done is hustle, man.
• 2:16:08
  Like I'm interesting thing that I always like a mindset that
• 2:16:12
  something I came up with was I've been in sales my whole
• 2:16:14
  life. I've been 100% Commission almost
• 2:16:16
  since I was like 18. I've never really actually had
• 2:16:19
  an hourly wage and a paycheck that I knew was going to be a
• 2:16:21
  certain dollar amount, which is a wild way to live.
• 2:16:23
  I learned I didn't realize it wasn't normal, but I was
• 2:16:27
  considered what I eventually started telling people is like,
• 2:16:29
  well, I'm a wild animal and most, most, most people are zoo
• 2:16:35
  animals, right? Like if you like.
• 2:16:37
  And it just as a way to make myself like look cool, sound
• 2:16:39
  cool, especially like talking to a lady.
• 2:16:41
  Be like, oh, I'm a wild animal you.
• 2:16:44
  Think that, Oh my God, I think like as if a guy was like, I'm a
• 2:16:48
  wild animal. I'd be like.
• 2:16:50
  What's something wrong with this dude?
• 2:16:51
  Right? Of course, that's called every
• 2:16:53
  man in his 20s, by the way. But but, but really though, like
• 2:17:00
  when I when I the difference between zoo animals and wild
• 2:17:03
  animals, a zoo animal is fed, but it has no choice of how much
• 2:17:07
  or what it's eating, but it knows it's going to get fed.
• 2:17:11
  You know you're going to get a paycheck and you know how much
• 2:17:12
  you're going to get Me as a wild animal, I don't know if I'm
• 2:17:15
  going to eat unless I go out and I hunt.
• 2:17:18
  I see what you're. Saying but you.
• 2:17:20
  Do but you do learn what I what I did learn about this was the
• 2:17:22
  beauty of farming as a hunter. Well, it's kill, eat, kill, eat,
• 2:17:26
  kill, eat. And this also will circle this
• 2:17:29
  back into faith and religion is that as a when you learn to
• 2:17:33
  farm, you learn that, yes, you have to be very consistent.
• 2:17:38
  You have to be very diligent. But once you do like once like
• 2:17:41
  you, when you take something from seed to fruit, the that the
• 2:17:45
  it's the bounty is it's plentiful.
• 2:17:48
  It's it's abundant. There's like one seed, one piece
• 2:17:51
  of fruit, like 1 apple has 10 seeds in it or 8 seeds, 7 seeds
• 2:17:54
  in it. One of those seeds turns into a
• 2:17:56
  tree and gives you 1002 thousand apples every year.
• 2:18:00
  And each of those apples has the ability and that's.
• 2:18:02
  Why I grow the oranges and the watermelons in my backyard.
• 2:18:04
  You guys exactly in Wichita, KS? Yes, we're going to go to the
• 2:18:07
  lighting round. OK, go ahead year round.
• 2:18:09
  Year round, year round, it's December.
• 2:18:13
  It's. December 6th right now.
• 2:18:16
  And I plucked this guy beautifully.
• 2:18:19
  I went out there Lightning Round.
• 2:18:21
  Yeah. So we're actually going to do
• 2:18:23
  one question in Lightning Round. This is where you will ask
• 2:18:26
  something. That was Lightning doesn't.
• 2:18:28
  Make a sound, remember? This is Thunder.
• 2:18:33
  So this is where we're going to ask you.
• 2:18:35
  Normally we'd shoot fire questions, but honestly, all of
• 2:18:38
  the lightning ones, we've kind of gone through all of them.
• 2:18:41
  So we're just going to ask one, and that's what's going to lead
• 2:18:44
  us to conclusion. Cool.
• 2:18:48
  What's your most controversial anime opinion?
• 2:18:51
  Oh jeez. I don't even know how you have
• 2:18:57
  controversy with anime. You didn't.
• 2:19:00
  Like the attack on Titans or finish it.
• 2:19:01
  So I didn't say. It in that's.
• 2:19:03
  Controversial. I don't know.
• 2:19:06
  I mean, I'm. Against I'm.
• 2:19:08
  Against somebody. According to Reddit.
• 2:19:10
  According to Reddit right now I'm with so many people from
• 2:19:13
  I'm. I'm in the room of Reddit people
• 2:19:15
  I. Mean Is it us?
• 2:19:20
  Is it our fault? So.
• 2:19:24
  Associate myself with weird people all the time.
• 2:19:26
  Well, OK, so. I have one.
• 2:19:30
  Oh, you have? One please.
• 2:19:31
  Yeah. Help.
• 2:19:31
  Me out here, man, like I don't know, like I I I'm I'm not even
• 2:19:34
  though I dove in deep. I'm not really wide like so I
• 2:19:38
  guess I have Naruto socks on right now, right, but but I
• 2:19:41
  haven't seen a ton of anime. I just know that once I
• 2:19:44
  discovered kind of what it was and my son got me into it by the
• 2:19:46
  way, right, so like so it's something we could share.
• 2:19:48
  But what I loved about it was the attitude and the mindset of,
• 2:19:51
  like, I like, and I know there's and I, I have this opinion that
• 2:19:56
  there is a loss in translation because you know how, like, most
• 2:20:00
  of what I watch is in English. Yeah.
• 2:20:02
  But every anime they say, no matter what, that is like a key
• 2:20:06
  phrase you see in every anime, like, I'm going to do this no
• 2:20:09
  matter what. I bet in Japanese, there's a
• 2:20:12
  really cool word or phrase or something that no matter what is
• 2:20:15
  being translated from that. I would love to know, like, more
• 2:20:18
  about what that is. Oh.
• 2:20:20
  That's a good one, yeah, but that.
• 2:20:22
  Is the key thing that at least the ones I watch and you know
• 2:20:25
  like demon Slayer's one, I've seen everything on which I'm a
• 2:20:29
  fan of I've been I've watched the shield hero, which is like a
• 2:20:33
  newer one, but honestly it's kind of hard to like it's
• 2:20:39
  daunting to find a next one like more to go into because what
• 2:20:42
  it's. For you.
• 2:20:45
  For sure, let's do it. I'll watch it.
• 2:20:48
  And actually the way you describe the ending, I'm
• 2:20:50
  extremely fascinated. Now to see more because I want.
• 2:20:52
  To know and a lot of. Shows season 1 doesn't actually
• 2:20:54
  pick up like let's like a lot of shows that are great it takes a
• 2:20:57
  whole season to create the environment or sometimes
• 2:21:00
  they're. Backwards.
• 2:21:01
  I really like Tokyo Ghoul, first season is so good.
• 2:21:04
  The rest of them tapped out again.
• 2:21:06
  I don't know what the fuck is going on so I'll watch.
• 2:21:09
  Season 1 maybe but and I would love any input on anime 'cause I
• 2:21:12
  I like to ask people about things but like I mean I watched
• 2:21:15
  about 100 and something episodes in One Piece and having
• 2:21:18
  scratched the surface on that, man it's wild.
• 2:21:21
  I would. Not watch One Piece as a binge
• 2:21:22
  watcher 11. 100 I think it's. Further than that, like I think
• 2:21:25
  they're close to 12 now, or even 13.
• 2:21:28
  Oh. My God.
• 2:21:29
  Yeah. As a binge watcher, no no thank
• 2:21:31
  you. What was your?
• 2:21:32
  Controversy. Literally.
• 2:21:32
  We'll. Never come back.
• 2:21:33
  We'll never see you. Yeah, I'm not doing it.
• 2:21:36
  Yes. We're kind of in the same boat
• 2:21:38
  as English dubbed anime is still good dude.
• 2:21:44
  I really dig it. And what's crazy is when you
• 2:21:46
  fall out, that is. A very big controversy.
• 2:21:48
  I I. Dig.
• 2:21:49
  I like that. I'm I'm that was a great
• 2:21:51
  approach volcano. High proved it.
• 2:21:54
  Well, I mean like. I don't the movie.
• 2:21:57
  Yeah, the. Movie where they.
• 2:21:58
  Had all the Lil Jon and everybody did.
• 2:22:00
  No, that was a travesty because I watched the original first
• 2:22:03
  before that came out. I was like, what is it?
• 2:22:05
  That's what I was going to say is that when you like you fall
• 2:22:08
  in love with the character. The voice is part of who they
• 2:22:10
  are. And then when you hear them in
• 2:22:12
  the other, like in like when you hear them in Japanese, you're
• 2:22:15
  like, it's like Goku. It's like Goku.
• 2:22:17
  I cannot watch him in Japanese. Like it's like what?
• 2:22:19
  He sounds like a little tiny man.
• 2:22:23
  I've never seen it in Japanese. Like, yeah, honestly, here's
• 2:22:28
  one, Here's one. Like I'm old school, so I never,
• 2:22:30
  I didn't get past Z Dragon Ball Z is the most stressful thing I
• 2:22:36
  think I've ever watched in my life.
• 2:22:38
  Dragon Ball Z, like especially like the Frieza arc.
• 2:22:42
  Yeah, God, I was like exploding on the inside, like when you're
• 2:22:49
  like 160 episodes into one fight.
• 2:22:52
  Yeah. This is just screw this.
• 2:22:54
  Dude, I'm out. I still.
• 2:22:55
  Stay. I'm out.
• 2:22:56
  I'm not. No, I mean, yes, but I'm like
• 2:22:57
  that, Yeah. I was like a.
• 2:22:59
  Person. When I came, when we, when he
• 2:23:00
  started getting an anime and I was like, oh, I can relate.
• 2:23:02
  I'm a, you know, let's watch Dragon Ball Z together.
• 2:23:05
  Me and my brother used to watch it back in high school, right?
• 2:23:06
  Like I'm watching this. I'm like, dude, how did we
• 2:23:09
  waited a whole day for this? Yeah.
• 2:23:11
  For. The whole year, we went a whole
• 2:23:14
  year and we didn't get it. Like, we had to wait 24 hours to
• 2:23:16
  see what happens. Yeah.
• 2:23:18
  I feel like it's almost the only way it's palatable because when
• 2:23:21
  you're watching back-to-back to back-to-back to back and you
• 2:23:23
  watch 10 episodes, Yeah, it's the you're.
• 2:23:25
  Like. 60 episodes in and this dude's still doing push ups and
• 2:23:29
  a. Spaceship and.
• 2:23:30
  The hyperbolic time tune. Yeah, dude.
• 2:23:33
  Just got to get ready. Right. 14X gravity.
• 2:23:37
  You know what I mean? Like, really good.
• 2:23:39
  Like, like, literally Leo tapped out.
• 2:23:41
  Like he's like, Nah, I'm good. Yeah, OK.
• 2:23:43
  So, Travis, we've now heard a little bit about you, your
• 2:23:46
  stories, your background, your wild interest, your weirdness.
• 2:23:49
  Tell us and our listeners where they can find you and support
• 2:23:52
  you and. Support where you're doing
• 2:23:54
  that's a great question I mean I really am only on Facebook for
• 2:23:57
  the most part I live in Wichita, KS.
• 2:24:01
  I'm this is my office and then. Responsive mortgage so.
• 2:24:04
  Yes, responsive, sorry. So yeah, Facebook just Travis
• 2:24:10
  went WENDT. Don't forget the D.
• 2:24:15
  Just made that. Up.
• 2:24:19
  Yeah, yeah. So ovaries and.
• 2:24:23
  Bananas. Yep.
• 2:24:24
  Oh yeah. Pariva definitely getting.
• 2:24:26
  Some ovaries. Definitely gets ovaries.
• 2:24:31
  Cheers, huh Pariva? Pabaco palcentro Y palentro.