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August 10, 2026 | Islam Pushback, Spider-Man Stumbles, South Carolina Preview · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a meeting of the minds crafted from decades
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  Speaker 1: It's Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is eminem Extra.
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  Speaker 2: than ideas. I'm storming out of movie theaters and got
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  Speaker 2: a splint on my wrist. Look at this thing.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them are so efficient. You know what I
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  Speaker 2: love about it. If you've got kind of a semi
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  Speaker 2: quasi thing, like a semi emergency in and out half hour,
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  Speaker 2: forty five minutes, maybe an hour, try doing that at
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  Speaker 2: the emergency room at the hospital on a Saturday. You know,
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  Speaker 2: have you or Lisa or the kids ever had one
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  Speaker 2: of these? Count every once in a while.
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  Speaker 3: We got to do the dock in a box every
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  Speaker 3: once in a while. And it's not quite emergency room
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  Speaker 3: and it's a weekend or something like that. And the
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  Speaker 3: thing that I've in this this might be COVID as well.
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  Speaker 3: COVID was a total nightmare, but it gave us a
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  Speaker 3: couple of things. Marguerite is to go. That's one benefit,
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  Speaker 3: a box, the urgent cares. You just do everything online.
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  Speaker 3: you come that way. You're not sitting in the peatri
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  Speaker 3: dish of a waiting room with other people and their afflictions.
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  Speaker 3: The whole thing just seems more streamlined.
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  Speaker 2: I guess. I mean it is streamline. You do have
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  Speaker 2: an app and you tap in and everything. So anyway,
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  Speaker 2: they took an X ray, which I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: that was necessary, because I thought, this doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: a bone, feels like it's a tendon, you know. And
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  Speaker 2: I've been working out with this trainer. I mean, I'm doing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm lifting and all this stuff and I'm
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  Speaker 2: using I'm sure muscles that have never been used in
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  Speaker 2: fifty years in my botty.
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  Speaker 3: There you are.
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  Speaker 2: So that's probably the problem. But man, it was. It
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  Speaker 2: was bad. So they gave me a little shot. They
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  Speaker 2: I guess, like a muscle relaxant. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: This little brace that I've got on my wrist, it's
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  Speaker 2: a it's a godsend. I mean, it's like when I
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  Speaker 2: have it on, it does hurt at all. When I
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  Speaker 2: take it off, it hurts like a son of oh gun.
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  Speaker 3: How long How long are you going to be in
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. She said, give it about a week.
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  Speaker 2: you know, slinging hot topics on the radio, and that's
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  Speaker 2: right in the middle of my existing show and right
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  Speaker 2: before your network show, and something we'll talk about just
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  Speaker 2: all that. But at the very end, when you said
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  Speaker 2: that you had paid attention to something in my neck
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  Speaker 2: of the woods, in McKinney, Texas, where a loud, vocal
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  Speaker 2: crowd showed up and just very nearly shouted down the
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  Speaker 2: town council as they were looking to grant approval to
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  Speaker 2: the latest mosque, the latest Islamic center. And this crowd
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  Speaker 2: gathered and they looked at Europe, they looked at dearborn Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: they looked at Minnesota, and they just wanted their elected
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  Speaker 2: officials to say not just no, but blank no. And
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  Speaker 2: what did the council do? Seven and nothing? Boom approved
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  Speaker 2: the Islamic Project. So I brought that up and it
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  Speaker 2: was off to the races because here was here was
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  Speaker 2: the quandary, and I presented to you, and I think
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  Speaker 2: you approached it with a radar for exactly where this
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  Speaker 2: needs to go. We have all seen Europe, we have
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  Speaker 2: all seen dearborn Michigan, we have all seen Minnesota, and
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  Speaker 2: we don't want that to happen anywhere in America. So
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  Speaker 2: what really can we constitutionally do a lot of people go, well,
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  Speaker 2: we just need to ban Islam. You can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Well we just need to say no more mosques. You
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  Speaker 2: can't do that either. So what can we do? And
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  Speaker 2: so for let me stop talking, offer it to you
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  Speaker 2: and see where your head is at, as the kids say,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'll say you where we kind of arrive. Well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, you've couched it perfectly by saying we've
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  Speaker 2: seen Europe, we've seen dearborn, we're seeing what can happen.
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  Speaker 2: But then we got to we've got to kind of
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  Speaker 2: play that out. What does that mean? What does what
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  Speaker 2: does dearborn look like? I mean is does dearborn have
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  Speaker 2: a Muslim problem or does dearborn have a problem with
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  Speaker 2: individuals who are refusing to assimilate with individuals who want
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  Speaker 2: to impose Sharia law in a community? I think you
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  Speaker 2: have to have guardrails. I mean, first of all, we
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  Speaker 2: ought to start with Sharia law. Is that a viable
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  Speaker 2: project for any community in America? And I would say
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  Speaker 2: absolutely not.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's pause on Sharia law because as far as
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  Speaker 3: a local mosque might use Sharia precepts from the Quran
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  Speaker 3: in terms of interpersonal dealings and stuff, that has done
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  Speaker 3: have anything to do with actual law, the Constitution or
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  Speaker 3: Texas statutes. It's their business. They get to religiously conduct
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  Speaker 3: themselves in any way they wish. Where Sharia becomes problematic
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  Speaker 3: is some rulings that are in direct conflict with Texas
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  Speaker 3: family law, divorce law, other types of laws. So there's
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  Speaker 3: there's Sharia that's their business and theirs Sharia that's everybody's business.
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  Speaker 3: And that's my second category. So there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's my point is that the bottom line is
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  Speaker 2: if Sharia law becomes part of a neighborhood where the
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  Speaker 2: local police aren't allowed into a community. And we've seen
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  Speaker 2: that in different places in Europe where the police there
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  Speaker 2: are no go zones where you're not allowed to have
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement from a city, you're a community or a county.
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  Speaker 2: But some I was reading from the Dallas Morning News
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  Speaker 2: there was a woman named Cassa Cassie Stanfel who spoke
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  Speaker 2: out what she said was the racism, Islamophobia, and hate
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  Speaker 2: that she was witnessing in McKinney and and another one,
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  Speaker 2: Lubna Khan, said to the council, Sharia is about practice,
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  Speaker 2: not enforcement. Our mosque will be a place of peace
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  Speaker 2: and we respectfully ask for your approval. Another Evan Hunt said,
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  Speaker 2: I do not fear Muslim Americans in our community. Fear
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  Speaker 2: and prejudice have no place in public policy or in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Texas. You know, I don't know Mark
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  Speaker 2: that there is a very solid argument against the construction
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  Speaker 2: of a mosque in a place like McKinney, Texas, if
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  Speaker 2: they have followed all the guidelines, and they have and
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  Speaker 2: they had, if they've gotten all the box, has checked,
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  Speaker 2: the proper permitting, all the procedures that that a new
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  Speaker 2: church has to follow. I do think there is a
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  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of prejudice going on here and
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  Speaker 2: I and it bothers.
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  Speaker 3: Me if it's prejudiced, I mean, okay, find prejudice. Can
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  Speaker 3: you find real Islamophobia? Can but in that crowd, because
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  Speaker 3: here's how it broke down the crowd I no, say
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  Speaker 3: no to the loss, and these aren't. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that was prejudice or hate. I think it was just
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  Speaker 3: looking at Europe and looking at Dearborn and look at
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  Speaker 3: it and just saying we don't want that in Texas.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want to be overrun. What you said that, Now,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, time out. You've said that two or
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  Speaker 2: three times. What does that that mean is they don't
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  Speaker 2: want That means.
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  Speaker 3: Tenets of Islam that are antithetical to constitutional law, antithetical
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  Speaker 3: to Texas law. And I bet there probably are some
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  Speaker 3: folks in this where it gets a little dicey or
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  Speaker 3: not thrilled with some of the cultural aspects. And listen,
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  Speaker 3: we are multicultural, we are we are religiously diverse, and
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  Speaker 3: we are a nation of religious freedom. You're no more
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  Speaker 3: or less American because of what faith you are. But
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  Speaker 3: there is a very high anten of very high radar,
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  Speaker 3: high sensitivity to the kind of things that happened that
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  Speaker 3: have happened to some of these communities in terms of
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  Speaker 3: incursions into American law. And these folks are European laws,
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  Speaker 3: as the case was in that kind of people don't
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  Speaker 3: want that to happen. They want to nip it in
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  Speaker 3: the bud right now, which is understandable yet problematic. I
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  Speaker 3: think you've got to wait for a mosque to set
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  Speaker 3: up a no go zone. You've got to wait for
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  Speaker 3: an Islamic center to have a Sharia law court that
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  Speaker 3: subverts Texas statute. When they do that, shut them down.
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  Speaker 2: Go.
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  Speaker 3: But until they do that, there's the constitution kind of
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  Speaker 3: lets them exist. That's they do other fames. That's what
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  Speaker 3: I mean about the guardrails. That's what I mean. If
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  Speaker 3: there's a line crossed and all of a sudden, there's
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  Speaker 3: no gozones or there's enforcement of sure because you real law,
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  Speaker 3: as you and I have agreed upon for a long time,
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  Speaker 3: it's incompatible with Western civilization. It just is.
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  Speaker 2: It has no place in McKinney, Texas in twenty twenty six. Now,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, if they want to worship and observe, Look,
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  Speaker 2: there's peculiarities to every single religion, and you want to
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  Speaker 2: go on a crusade. You could start to rail against
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  Speaker 2: the way Orthodox Jews practice. You know, no no electric
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  Speaker 2: or electronic you know, any kind of electricity on the
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  Speaker 2: Sabbath and you've got to walk, and you've got to
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  Speaker 2: you can't lock your door or you can. You could
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  Speaker 2: go after people who have worship services where you know
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  Speaker 2: they're they're speaking in.
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  Speaker 3: Tongues, but they're not trying to kill us.
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  Speaker 2: That's true all You're right.
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  Speaker 3: The differences are differences, but some of those differences you're
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  Speaker 3: trying to kill us. Say there's a there's a because
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  Speaker 3: you're your points are all completely into LUs but not
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  Speaker 3: everybody at that mosque wants to kill us. Cray. I
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  Speaker 3: asked a guy. I asked a guy today. I put
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  Speaker 3: this to exactly that kind of test. The guy called
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  Speaker 3: me with all and it was apparently we've had some
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  Speaker 3: conversations over the years, and I guess he can't you
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  Speaker 3: ever hear this. It's popular where they try to pitch
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  Speaker 3: that Islam and it isn't even really a religion at all.
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  Speaker 3: It's just kind of a political racket. It's a movement
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  Speaker 3: wrapped in the honorable cloth of a religion, so it's
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  Speaker 3: not really a religion, so they don't get First Amendment,
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  Speaker 3: which is dead on arrival. Of course, it's a religion,
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  Speaker 3: it's one that's really different than my own and has
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  Speaker 3: some elements of it that are outright repellent when it's radicalized.
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  Speaker 3: But just stop it. So this gentleman was one of
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  Speaker 3: those we got to stop it now kind of people.
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  Speaker 3: And I asked him. I said, if I were to
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  Speaker 3: pluck one hundred Muslims from the Dallas Fort Worth area,
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  Speaker 3: just totally at random, one hundred, because he kept saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but they want to kill us, they want to kill us,
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  Speaker 3: they want to kill us, well, some of them do,
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  Speaker 3: we don't know which ones. I said, if I were
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  Speaker 3: to plot a hundred Muslims at random and put them
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  Speaker 3: in a room right here, Boom, about how many of
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  Speaker 3: those hundred do you think want to kill us? He said, eighty.
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  Speaker 3: See what see, that's what I mean. That's that And
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  Speaker 3: I just said I think I think might be guessing
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  Speaker 3: high one is too many.
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  Speaker 2: But wow, so you know, I know, I know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's my point and I think that look to me,
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  Speaker 2: there's a perfect parallel to another big hot topic over
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  Speaker 2: the weekend that I got my butt kicked today over
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  Speaker 2: the issue what did you do Sophie Cunningham the w
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  Speaker 2: NBA and Dijon A or whatever her name was, right
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  Speaker 2: who closedlined her and nearly took her head off, almost
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  Speaker 2: took her head off, and then got ejected from the
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  Speaker 2: game and then ran to the locker room and cried
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  Speaker 2: white privilege. She was a victim of white privilege, which
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  Speaker 2: of yeah, sure you were. You know, how about you
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  Speaker 2: not try to take the head off of an opposing player. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I admitted, I'm not a big fan of the WNB something.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a place so I'm going to spend any
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  Speaker 2: time watching, But okay, I'm aware of it. In the periphery.
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  Speaker 2: I know there's been drama over the trans issue. You've
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  Speaker 2: got you know some players that are the Sophie Cunningham,
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  Speaker 2: the one who almost got her head taken off, happens
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  Speaker 2: to believe that biological men shouldn't play in women's sports.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That's why Sports Illustrated perhaps wrote immediately
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  Speaker 2: after this incident that she got a taste of karma.
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  Speaker 3: Karma carma.
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  Speaker 2: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 3: She deserved this because of her repellent views about gender normalcy.
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  Speaker 2: Right exactly. But what I didn't like this morning on
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  Speaker 2: the show, and man, did I get my clock cleaned?
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  Speaker 2: I dared to point out to all these people saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's all about racism. They're targeting the white girls. All
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  Speaker 2: they're doing is the black the black players are targeting
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  Speaker 2: the white players, and it's all about race, race, race.
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, how do you know that? How do
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: you know it's about race? How do you know it's
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: not about the trans issue? How do you not know
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: it's not about that? These these star players, Sophie Cuttingham
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and Caitlyn Clark are getting a lot of media attention
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: that the other players wish they had. I don't know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: You can't come well, Mark, I said that, and boy,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: people come after me. They're disappointed in me, and I'm
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: stupidly forgetting that race matters, and blah blah blah. Look
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: it seems to me. Mark. Before you respond, let me
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: just point this out. If we complain about people on
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: the left or people of color always screaming racism at
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the drop of the hat, we shouldn't do the same thing.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: It's not the same thing. I mean, you don't have
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: a point because you do. And there are some presumptions
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: that people will make. I one hundred percent believe that
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the league and a ton of its players despise Caitlin
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Clark before we even get to Sophie. With Sophie, it's
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: almost entirely political. I think a black player speaking gender
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: normalcy would be similarly reviled. But Caitlin Clark is the
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: biggest deal in WNBA history, the most talented player they
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: have ever had or maybe ever will have, and I
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: believe there is enormous resentment of her because she is
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: white and straight. They cannot believe that a white girl
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: is the star. They can't believe that a straight girl
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: is the star. And she's not even as vocal about it,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: or vocal about it at all as Sophie Cunningham is
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: does it exist to a degree, Yes, to what exact degree,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know so, but I absolutely believe that there
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: is resentment of Caitlin Clark for her whiteness and her straightness. Well,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I understand that position, and I'm not going to push
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: back other than just to say, you don't know what's
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: in these players' hearts. You just don't know. I wouldn't
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: pin anything on any one individual person, right right. You
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: may be completely correct. On the other hand, you may
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: be out to lunch on this. It may be, like
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I said, because they're popular, they're stars, they're resentful of
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: their success, they wish they had the contracts. But it
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean it's because they're white, and and and
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: the people who push back against me for saying that
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of anger, I mean, I mean rage.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Let me go to bat, Let me go to bat
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: for you, on on on on on the side that
• 19:12
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• 19:14
  Speaker 3: things that could be true at the same time. I
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: think that a white w NBA star who was all
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: in with the wokeness, racial wokeness, gender wokeness. I mean,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I think the WNBA loves Megan Rapino, Yeah, which really
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: sort of takes us to a place a very familiar
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: theme that I and that is that most things are
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: not about real most most things really are not about
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: race anymore. Black folk love Bill Clinton. You know they
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: got no use for Clarence Thomas. It's mostly about your
• 19:44
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• 19:48
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• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Speaking of a good thing, I mentioned storming out of
• 19:52
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  Speaker 2: Did you you texted me about how you and was
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: it Lisa that convinced you? Was it Spider Man? You
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: guys saw Spider Man already?
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, we did. We did Spider Man too, which is
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: funny when you when you hit me on the radio
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: this morning and said you and saw Spider Man, I went, wow,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: we did too. I must have been again listened because
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: it's been. It's there. Everybody was talking about it. The
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: reviews have been pretty good, and I'm fond of saying
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: that I don't consume movies like this as much as
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I once did because I'm not twelve. But then I
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: remind myself I probably did the Ironman Marvel Universe stuff
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: well into my forties, so it's not like you got
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: to be a kid. And some of these, some of them, well,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I mean the Tony Stark Iron Man stuff. Loved those,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: those were they were great. They were the early Spider
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Man stuff with Toby maguire and Willem Dafoe is Green
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Goblin and you know, the dog Mock. The villains were
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: great and Kristin dunst ays MJ. I you a fan
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: of Zendaya. I think she's great, enormously ATTITUTD. A lot
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: of people said, well, you noticed they had to ethno size, MJ.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: She can't be white anymore. It's like, oh, it's exhausting,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: all right, all right, all right. But ultimately, the thing
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I ask is was it a good movie?
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: And did I care?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: You clearly did not care. You didn't even care about
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: staying for the entire movie. We were less than thrilled,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: but you were positively repelled.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It's so weird to leave a movie, and I never
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: do that. I mean, I'm typically pretty good at just
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: sitting through it. Figure, and I spent the money there.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: You've paid the money, You're in a tuffy seat. They'll
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: probably bring you food.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: About forty five minutes, I thought, what am I doing here?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: This is the stupidest. I can go home and read
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a book, I can pop something on TV. I can
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: go for a walk, I can exercise with my bum
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: hand here that I can't move anymore. I mean, it
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: was just awful. I mean it was just the we
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: get it. He swings around Gotham or whatever, and he's
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: hanging and he's like, I didn't even know. Here's what's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: kind of neat though. The guy that is one of
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the villains in the movie. And I don't even know
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: what the character is, but are you familiar with the actor?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Is I think it's is it Eric Burnhal, the bad
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: guy that's got like the pug like the he looks
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: like he's got a boxer's face. His nose is kind
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: of squished up. He's real recognizable.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Look at it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: John John John Burnhal. John, he's Mikey Carmie's dead brother
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: in the Bear. Really well, he works all Oh, he
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: just finished a Broadway run and he is everywhere. John
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Burnenthal his dad used to be my attorney, howl Is
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that true story? Years ago, many years ago, back in
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the day. His dad was a big, high profile lawyer
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. And he is John Beruthall's dad,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: and he's the great guy, so proud of his son's career.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: But back then when I knew them, I haven't seen
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: talked to Rick in years and years, but his career,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: his son's career was just sort of taken off. It
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: was just but he's one of those guys that works
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a lot. And I was thinking about that. If you're
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: in a movie like Spider Man. You're you're, you're, you're
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: at the top of your game. So he's good for
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: good for him. And then I then I stupidly talked
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: about popping on TV. Then I go to Netflix Sunday
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Night pop on the last house that was a pile
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: of garbage. I saw that.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I thought, I am all in kind of a tear
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: dystopian sci fi thing. It's like, okay, let's go. Weird
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: things are happening. Let's see what's going on. Because nobody,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: literally that's the premise. Nobody can get out of their house.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: A whole neighborhood wakes up. Nobody can get out of
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: their house. I thought, Okay, I'm interested, but apparently falsely.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So oh, it's so stupid. It was so stupid. I
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: couldn't stand it. It was just brutal, just brutal. Speaking
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: of brutal, I had to play and if you don't mind,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I like to play all three or four minutes for you.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I started seeing posts on X about the disgraceful way
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Margaret Brennan treated doctor Jay Batchara, and you want to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: play this, I mean, this is do it. We got time,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go, we got we got the time because it,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: but it's a great exploration as to what not to do.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I posted last night on x this ought to be
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: taught in journalism schools forever, and it went viral. My
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: post got a lot of response, people were forwarding it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Thousands and thousands of people have viewed it, because this
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: is what happens when you have a miserable, unprofessional, unhit
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: ringed hack like Margaret Brennan trying to go after a calm,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: cool and collected doctor j Batchara, the acting CDC director.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Here's how this played out yesterday on CBS's Faced the
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Nation on this issue.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: You were down in Atlanta this past week. This is
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: one year since that horrific shooting at CDC headquarters. Officer
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: David Rose was honored this past week. He was killed
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: last year protecting CDC employees from a gunman. And we
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: should know he was a combat veteran, a United States
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Marine who had just graduated five months prior from the
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: police academy.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: Three kids left behind.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: The shooter was motivated by misinformation about the COVID vaccine.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: That is why he shot over one hundred bullets into
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: the windows of the CDC. Is enough being done to
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: counter this kind of misinformation.
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: I mean I should start with I got to talk
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: with Officer Rose his wife a few months back. One
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: of the first things I did is, I, you know,
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: to honor him and his sacrifice in protecting the people
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: that work at the CDs. Amazing people who work at
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: the CDC. Was we you know, renamed the street that
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: leads into the CDC after him, and it was a
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: really nice event.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: The thing is, I want to focus on attention that
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: Officer Rose, because I don't I think the shooter did
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: was horrific and I think that you know, you could
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: talk about why shooters do things, but really fundamentally.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Father said he was brainwashed about the COVID vaccine and
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: thought it was making him suicidal.
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: That's really I mean think the thing is, just like
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: to talk about the shooter pushed the emphasis on somebody
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: who's I mean, I think we shouldn't be putting our
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: emphasis on No, I.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Am on misinformation about I think the key the key.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: Thing is there's a loss of public trust in public
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: health that happened in part because of a lot of Frankly,
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: even even on this network and on other networks, there
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: was a particular single point of view put across during
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: the COVID pandemic about how you know that led to
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: things that really did cause harm to people.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: The school closures is probably the number one thing.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: That that that this is not a productive line of claims.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: We covered COVID in depths on this program like no
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: other Sunday show did.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not blaming you specifically.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: What I'm saying is you want to talk about misinformation
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: that the kinds of decisions and the sort of the
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: public sort of phase of public health during the pandemic
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: led to many people losing trust in public health.
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: The Trump administration officials.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, I mean like Biden.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: So Biden for instance, began under the Trump administ.
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: But during during It's just so we're clear, the Biden
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: administration censored me, right, they censored They sent out uh
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: direct attacks on people who disagreed on on on the
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: COVID on sort of whether the COVID vaccine stopped him.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: RFK Junior called the COVID vaccine the deadliest vaccine ever.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: That is misinformation. We're not being clear about that, and
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I think that is dangerous your job, it's.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: Margaret, because the Wide administration censored people and said, look,
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: you can't talk about COVID vaccine hearts.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm talking about why you have.
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: The kind of distrust that's led to the kind of
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: sort of problems that you're talking we're talking about earlier
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: in public health. That distrust was not caused by President Trump.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: It wasn't caused by Bobby. It was caused by a
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: lot of sort of really fundation yea often spread by
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: the government itself regarding natural immunity, closures of schools, closures
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: of mass mandates. People lost their jobs because of these
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: vaccine mandates that didn't make any public health sense. So
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: if you want to talk about public trust, you have
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: to embrace that fully, right. You can't just talk about
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: it in a narrow political way.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Talking about a shooting at the CDC and an officer,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: you said, you just went to honor. That's what I
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: was talking about. You're talking about something else.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: I also asked, talk back about you.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Is what you're talking about is you try to blame
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: the shooting on Bobby.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: I'm right reading you what is father said, you know what.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: You're reading, what you're what you're saying, what you're implying
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: is that somehow.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: I'm not talking about him, I'm talking about your visit.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: And is enough being done?
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Mark? I mean this pitiless worse. I've seen it five times.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: You gets worse every time you plan.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: She's so and what I posted last night, This segment
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: should be taught in journalism class forever to demonstrate just
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: how awful an unhinged host with an obvious agenda is
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: capable of producing. My little post, my little tweet one
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen thousand views so far on Nick you
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: kind of viral, but look it gets People just are
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: furious at this because there's no pretense of objectivity at
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: all anymore on these Sunday morning shows. Look, there's a
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: valid issue here about the public distrust of medical officials.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Look at the so called measles outbreaks. You don't think
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: people are saying, I'm not did.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: You say did you just say so called measles outbreaks?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Well, so called because people aren't exactly dropping in the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: streets for measles exactly right.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: But I mean it's a real outbreak. But I don't know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: And it's been contained, it's been containing every day. Yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know how deadly it is either it's not
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: like but they make the measles, it's like COVID two
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: point zero. Here we go. I got Anderthals who won't
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: get a vaccine, And I had a lady call the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: show this morning. She said, I'm not getting a measles
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: vaccine for my kid. And I know, and that's contrary
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to even what the Trump administration is saying. They're saying,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: get the measles vaccine. Jay Batasara is saying, get the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: musles vaccine. Bobby Kennedy is saying, get the measles vaccine.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: But trust is broken for the reasons. Doctor Botishari was saying,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: trust is broken because there was so much political activism
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: and mendacity that poisoned the well that used to exist
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: when people had honest disagreements about the science.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, and how do we get the trust back?
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: You know, I go back to For me, everything began
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and ended with mandates. When you force somebody to get
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a shot that you don't want to get, that's a
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: massive problem. That's a betrayal. When you force somebody out
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: of their job because of the decision not to get
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: that shot, that is a massive betrayal. They've betrayed us, Mark,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and there's no I don't know that there's any coming
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: back from this.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: We're a forgiving country. We are a country with a
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: short memory, a short attention span. So I've it's only
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: been six short years since all this kind of unfolded.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: But I think it's maybe if we have a like
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: five more Republican administrations, you know, six of this, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: then JD. Vans or Marco Rubio and then eventually all
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the way up to maybe the Baron Trump presidency in
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: twenty fifty four, and I may not be getting maybe
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: they'll trustworthy behavior can erode past sins.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: I have.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I just wonder if you can ever get
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: it back?
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: How do you get that back?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: How do you convince somebody when they betrayed us, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: when they lied to us, and when they over and
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: over again said that this, uh, you know that this
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: is kind of out of control? How do you ever
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: get that? How do you get that toothpaste back into
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the tube.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Indeed, I wish if I can be glib about something
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: to trust, something to trust in terms of the guidance
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: you get, I know, you trust kind of fun. You're
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: talking about getting back in shape and doing all that
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  Speaker 2: on South Carolina. You have any predictions about Lindsey's little sister,
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a it's the it's a little vague. I
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  Speaker 3: believe that Darlene and Ralph Norman will make a runoff,
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  Speaker 3: two weeks from now or two weeks later the runoff,
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  Speaker 2: Here he was Saturday on Fox News Saturday in America
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  Speaker 8: The difference is, really we don't know what miss Graham
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  Speaker 8: How you going to vote on spending, which is the
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  Speaker 8: who is a nice person.
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  Speaker 3: I told her during the.
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  Speaker 8: So she needs to be on the stage and less
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  Speaker 3: Now, definitely is it? What do you think? What do
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  Speaker 3: you see? What do you foresee for tomorrow?
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  Speaker 2: I see the same kind of crystal ball that you see.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna finish in the in the in
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  Speaker 2: the Uh, there'll be the final two in the runoff.
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  Speaker 2: Although you know, on the one hand, you can't minimize
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  Speaker 2: the impact of a Trump endorsement. Now, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 2: he endorsed Pamela Evatt. Yeah, and that didn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: That didn't work out so well? Well, you know what
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  Speaker 2: he wound up doing that he did a co endorsement.
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  Speaker 2: Would it not be wild if he does the same
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  Speaker 2: thing with Ralph Norman and her?
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  Speaker 3: What if both do it? Do what you want? South Carolina?
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  Speaker 3: I like them both, their wonderful people.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he did and Pamela Ett and he and
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  Speaker 2: he pardoned my language here.
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  Speaker 4: He screwed her.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, first he endorses her and then along comes uh,
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  Speaker 2: who was it? I'm losing track?
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  Speaker 4: Was it?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? The guy who wound up winning. I'm drawing a blank.
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  Speaker 2: The uh, the Attorney General, Doug Garnet. I'm drawing a
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  Speaker 2: complete blank. Oh, Alan Wilson, Alan Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: There he goes.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Wilson comes along. I don't know it, blink down
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  Speaker 2: on his name. I just interviewed him, very Jalen Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: So Trump does that because I like them both. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: just just pig you. Well, that was basically he wound
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  Speaker 2: up beating her soundly. So if he does the same thing, well,
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  Speaker 2: Ralph Norman will win soundly. It'll beast. What's so you will?
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  Speaker 3: No? No, which no, he would win soundly if Trump
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  Speaker 3: were to extend watch him do. Watch Trump do that? Now,
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  Speaker 3: watch him do it. So let's do a little South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina preview tomorrow. There's something on a wedgeend today, but
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't deserve it deserves because you had such great material.
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  Speaker 3: I want to do affordability and optics. How to navigate
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