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- 0:32Speaker 1: n Eileen. How are you doing.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Hi, I can hear you loud and clear. I'm doing great, Jero.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.
- 0:38Speaker 1: I am so excited to share a conversation with you
- 0:40Speaker 1: because I spent my childhood tipping over doghouses and thinking
- 0:43Speaker 1: it was a spaceship and you actually got to do it.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Well, good for you. That's how we grow the future
- 0:50Speaker 2: astronauts is by doing crazy things like you just mentioned.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Good for you.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Well, what you have done here is that you've opened
- 0:57Speaker 1: up the door for so many people. Because the kids
- 1:00Speaker 1: in my neighborhood all want space, and I just look
- 1:03Speaker 1: at them and I go, you gotta be kidding me.
- 1:05Speaker 1: I just thought this was one of my things when
- 1:06Speaker 1: I was a kid. But that's all they talk about,
- 1:08Speaker 1: that's all they dream about and what they do up
- 1:10Speaker 1: in that sky and things like space Woman opens up
- 1:14Speaker 1: that platform.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, space is all about the future, and
- 1:18Speaker 2: that's why I see young people, you know, everywhere, even
- 1:21Speaker 2: around the world. They're motivated by space. You know, some
- 1:23Speaker 2: of its star wars and the you know, the cool
- 1:26Speaker 2: science fiction stuff that we see. But there's a reality
- 1:29Speaker 2: side of spaceflight, and that's yes, our NASA astronauts and
- 1:33Speaker 2: now we have commercial astronauts and more and more people
- 1:36Speaker 2: are having the opportunity to fly in space. And for
- 1:39Speaker 2: the kids, it's going to be much more likely for
- 1:42Speaker 2: them than my generation that they'll have a chance to
- 1:45Speaker 2: go into space someday. Even they might be able to
- 1:48Speaker 2: go as a tourist, they might be able to go
- 1:50Speaker 2: as a professional astronaut. Because space it's getting cheaper, it's
- 1:54Speaker 2: getting safer as time goes on, and you know, still
- 1:58Speaker 2: it's about exploration and that I think that it inspires
- 2:01Speaker 2: the kids.
- 2:02Speaker 1: With your book Through the Glass Ceiling to the Stars,
- 2:05Speaker 1: and that's one of those I've always wondered to you
- 2:07Speaker 1: know that, when you're up there and you're looking at
- 2:09Speaker 1: that gigantic, vast array of space, do you ever go
- 2:12Speaker 1: to a state like Montana that's're known for the big
- 2:14Speaker 1: Sky country and still see the beauty of what we've
- 2:17Speaker 1: got here on Earth.
- 2:19Speaker 2: I honestly think I see more beauty here on Earth. Well,
- 2:23Speaker 2: having the experience of being in space. The first thing
- 2:26Speaker 2: I want to say is the Earth is round. It
- 2:28Speaker 2: is not flat, is some people are trying to tell me.
- 2:32Speaker 2: The space station and goes around the Earth once every
- 2:35Speaker 2: ninety minutes, and we get to see this beautiful planet
- 2:38Speaker 2: that we live on. Earth is it's a water planet.
- 2:42Speaker 2: It's blue and white in probably ninety percent of the
- 2:45Speaker 2: time when you look out the window, you see blue
- 2:47Speaker 2: or white. On some clear days you can see the continents,
- 2:52Speaker 2: you can see cities. You mostly see like bright desert,
- 2:57Speaker 2: and just the beauty the planet we live on a
- 3:00Speaker 2: like a beautiful oasis. Because when you turn and look
- 3:03Speaker 2: the other way, you see the darkness of space and
- 3:06Speaker 2: how much is out there that we don't know about,
- 3:09Speaker 2: And you look back at Earth and you're like, man,
- 3:11Speaker 2: I want to go back there after I do my
- 3:13Speaker 2: tour in space. I want to go back to Earth.
- 3:15Speaker 2: But the other thing, you know, being able to travel,
- 3:18Speaker 2: like you mentioned looking at the Big Sky in Montana,
- 3:21Speaker 2: and I also want to travel around the world and
- 3:24Speaker 2: see the places that I looked at from space. And
- 3:27Speaker 2: the last thing I'll say about that is the history.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Is you look back on Earth, especially the Middle East,
- 3:32Speaker 2: which is almost always clear, you think about the history
- 3:35Speaker 2: that took place, you know, kind of the cradle of
- 3:37Speaker 2: civilization and all the biblical history and all the wars
- 3:41Speaker 2: that took place down there, and you think about I mean,
- 3:46Speaker 2: I think you become more of a strategic thinker, and
- 3:50Speaker 2: you think more about humanity and our place in the universe.
- 3:54Speaker 2: So I don't want to get like too overly philosophical,
- 3:57Speaker 2: but that's kind of what happens to a person they
- 4:00Speaker 2: travel in space. It really changes you, I think for
- 4:02Speaker 2: the better.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Doesn't that make you a time traveler or do you
- 4:05Speaker 1: feel like an archaeologist when you go that high up
- 4:07Speaker 1: and you can see everything, You've got a view that
- 4:11Speaker 1: most of us only get pictures of.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, when I was a little kid, I used
- 4:15Speaker 2: to love reading science fiction and I read I mean,
- 4:18Speaker 2: I checked these books out of the library and I
- 4:21Speaker 2: read science fiction. I wanted to be like a space traveler.
- 4:24Speaker 2: I would. Back in those days, it was Buck Rogers,
- 4:26Speaker 2: you know, I wanted to be book Rodgers. But now
- 4:29Speaker 2: that I'm older and I have been in space for
- 4:31Speaker 2: some strange reason, I'm interested in history and I just
- 4:35Speaker 2: want to read about, you know, I'm different periods of time,
- 4:38Speaker 2: you know, near history, you know, maybe the early days
- 4:40Speaker 2: of the United States, but also like the Roman Empire,
- 4:44Speaker 2: and you know what made them so big and great?
- 4:47Speaker 2: What made them fail? And you know, just learning about
- 4:50Speaker 2: like biblical history and how humanity like spread around planet
- 4:55Speaker 2: Earth and you know, why were we? Why are we explorers?
- 4:59Speaker 2: So I think it makes me a little more philosophical.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Eileen Collins coming
- 5:05Speaker 1: up next. The name of the documentary is Space Woman.
- 5:10Speaker 1: We are back with astronaut Eileen Collins. What does a
- 5:14Speaker 1: young adult have to do to get ready to go
- 5:16Speaker 1: to Mars? Because this is not going to take modern
- 5:19Speaker 1: day learning. It's going to be something that's very futuristic
- 5:22Speaker 1: and far out there. But what can they do as
- 5:24Speaker 1: students now? Because I want them to be like you.
- 5:26Speaker 1: I want them to take that spacecraft over to Mars
- 5:30Speaker 1: and not be an AI technically connected kind of thing.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so this is a really important message that
- 5:37Speaker 2: I it's also a very simple message. Go to school, yep,
- 5:41Speaker 2: listen to your teacher, do your homework, Yes, do your homework.
- 5:46Speaker 2: And for the for the kids that are older, like
- 5:47Speaker 2: when you get in high school, take math all the
- 5:50Speaker 2: way through twelfth grade. And I know many schools make
- 5:53Speaker 2: it optional, but math teaches you how to solve problems
- 5:59Speaker 2: and the way you kind of learn mechanically how to
- 6:01Speaker 2: solve problems in math class. But is you that will
- 6:05Speaker 2: transfer to everyday life because you will always face problems
- 6:08Speaker 2: no matter, it's just a fact of life. Do not
- 6:11Speaker 2: run away from your problems. But techniques that you learned
- 6:15Speaker 2: to identify a problem, describe it. What are the tools
- 6:17Speaker 2: to fix that problem? What order do you put them in?
- 6:22Speaker 2: That helps you? Now your question about going on to
- 6:25Speaker 2: be an astronaut and you want to travel in space,
- 6:29Speaker 2: I would say, take your math and science courses and
- 6:32Speaker 2: also read books. Our kids today they're scrolling on their phones,
- 6:36Speaker 2: you know, scroll, scroll, squirrells. I tell them scrolling makes
- 6:39Speaker 2: you dumb. Books make you smart. And also these kids
- 6:42Speaker 2: have anxiety, and I got well, that's because you're constantly
- 6:46Speaker 2: on your phone. Get a book. Goes in for boys
- 6:49Speaker 2: and girls, men and women. Get a book. Go sit
- 6:52Speaker 2: somewhere quiet and get lost in a story. You know,
- 6:55Speaker 2: something that will help your imagination, will help you become
- 6:58Speaker 2: a more creative person. And you know AI is going
- 7:01Speaker 2: to be out there. I think we need to use
- 7:03Speaker 2: AI for what it's good for, but it cannot affect.
- 7:07Speaker 2: It can't take over our decision making. What we need
- 7:10Speaker 2: is humans. We need to be make our own decisions.
- 7:13Speaker 1: What is the magic that Hannah Berryman put into this space? Woman?
- 7:17Speaker 1: In the way of that there's such a connection. Did
- 7:20Speaker 1: you feel like that you were standing with your doppelganger
- 7:22Speaker 1: because it's almost like she knew you as you know you.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Yeah. So Hannah and I are two very different people.
- 7:30Speaker 2: So Hannah Berryman is our director. We work together for
- 7:34Speaker 2: you know, well over a year putting this together. So
- 7:37Speaker 2: Hannah's more creative, you know. She she is the one
- 7:41Speaker 2: that brought the emotion into the film. Now me, Eileen,
- 7:44Speaker 2: I'm more of a I'm going to say, objective, procedural
- 7:48Speaker 2: kind of person. I wanted to let's tell the story
- 7:51Speaker 2: of the four missions. This happened, that happened. We did this,
- 7:53Speaker 2: We did that, you know, these people were involved. But
- 7:56Speaker 2: Hannah brought in like the families. How do the families
- 7:59Speaker 2: feel when their loved one launches into space after this
- 8:03Speaker 2: terrible Shuttle accident? You know, how do the kids feel?
- 8:05Speaker 2: How did the spouses feel? And so I mean they
- 8:09Speaker 2: hired a composer that wrote original music, and the way
- 8:14Speaker 2: the music is edited into the scenes really brings out
- 8:16Speaker 2: the emotion of what is it like to be an
- 8:19Speaker 2: astronaut and to be a family member? What is it
- 8:22Speaker 2: like to be a flight director? You know, what is
- 8:24Speaker 2: it like to be you know, we interviewed my prime
- 8:26Speaker 2: flight director, Paul Hill. We interviewed one of the Shuttle
- 8:30Speaker 2: program managers, Wayne Hale. Both of them have very interesting
- 8:35Speaker 2: personalities and their perspective on you know, what does it
- 8:39Speaker 2: like to fight? You know, my last flight was the
- 8:41Speaker 2: what we call the return to flight mission after an accident,
- 8:45Speaker 2: and that does get I want to say, kind of
- 8:48Speaker 2: a front and center attention in the film towards the end,
- 8:51Speaker 2: and it kind of brings out the I want to say,
- 8:53Speaker 2: the emotion of being an astronaut and being a family member,
- 9:00Speaker 2: of which I'm not a very emotional person, and that's
- 9:02Speaker 2: why we needed Hannah to be able to describe that
- 9:06Speaker 2: feeling because I have trouble describing it, but Hannah did it.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Wow. Where can people go to find out more about
- 9:13Speaker 1: everything that you guys are doing? I mean everything, because
- 9:15Speaker 1: I believe that we're at that part in our life
- 9:17Speaker 1: where everybody needs an inspiration or a push forward and
- 9:20Speaker 1: you're helping to do that.
- 9:23Speaker 2: Yeah. So I would say the easiest thing to do
- 9:25Speaker 2: is through our website, or you can just type spacewoman,
- 9:29Speaker 2: but Spacewoman dot film will take you to our website.
- 9:32Speaker 2: It shows you around the country the places that we're
- 9:35Speaker 2: going to be showing. It's also going to have some
- 9:38Speaker 2: cities that will be added. But if it's not nearby
- 9:41Speaker 2: or you can't make it, it will be going digital
- 9:43Speaker 2: where you could. You could buy it digitally in probably
- 9:47Speaker 2: the June time frame, and then it will be streaming
- 9:49Speaker 2: if you want to rent it. It'll be streaming after that.
- 9:53Speaker 2: And I think it's best in the theater, but the
- 9:56Speaker 2: story's great no matter how you watch it, and I
- 9:58Speaker 2: know you're going to love it.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Wow, you got to come back to this show anytime
- 10:01Speaker 1: in the future. Eileen, the door is always going to
- 10:03Speaker 1: be open for you.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I love talking about space, and I
- 10:08Speaker 2: love inspiring people of all ages to learn about space.
- 10:11Speaker 2: And I'm glad we did Spacewoman to actually bring the
- 10:14Speaker 2: mission and bring the feeling of it to people so
- 10:17Speaker 2: they can understand. Thank you very much.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 10:20Speaker 2: Okay, thanks a lot.