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Milking it · That Car Show

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You can milk anything, right? This week on that car show, we
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talk about what goes on in Vegas.
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Could be talked about in Vegas when Lindsay and Tori head out
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for a VW show with a difference. We talk about Ryan's ever ending
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quest to drive the Diablo, which is always just one step ahead of
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him. Maybe this week will be.
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The paradigm of reliability the. Paradigm of reliability.
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We also talk about coffee in Malibu and how LA racing for
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coffee vouchers could be. We talk about the end of an era
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when it comes to the VW Torag. Even though the car may not have
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been available in the US for a little while, it's now been
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retired worldwide. This is a car that won three
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Dacars, had a diesel V10. We're going to a little bit of
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detail around that. We also talk about up and coming
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articles that Ryan is going to be writing for for Autoblog
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account for some very interesting articles just around
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the corner. And and we close off the show
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with some thoughts around a competition.
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Welcome to this week's That Car Show.
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It's another crew show. The gang are back together.
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We've just been comparing notes on who are the board game
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champions and it sounds like for Bobble it's Lindsay and for
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Scrabble it is Ryan. I think I'm more of a Pictionary
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or charades person. Unless you get to say it the way
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that's fun for us charades. That's right.
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Before we get started, I wanted to give a big shout out to our
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listeners in South Africa. So we are currently sat at 37 in
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the South African podcast charts for automotive.
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So how's it brew? Let's have a bra.
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Open up a dot and we'll be around really shortly.
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So thanks everyone in South Africa.
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We appreciate you listening. Thank you for joining us, it's
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awesome. Yeah, so anyway, let's start
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with what goes on in Vegas. Actually, you could be told
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about in Vegas. Lindsay come back from Vegas for
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a specific show. That's right.
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What are you doing? This was 1 instance of what
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happens in Vegas, doesn't stay in Vegas.
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So it was a show called 1 Crazy Weekend and it celebrates
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Volkswagens in all their various forms and their enthusiasts.
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And the show has grown. I think this year it doubled in
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size. It's I believe it's about 5
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years old. And this year they had almost
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400 cars. So it was a big turn out and,
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you know, totally new for me because I've been in a different
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area of the car world. So it's fun to like kind of
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explore a different corner of the car community.
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And one of the fun things about this show is that it's at a
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hotel in Vegas and they take over the parking lot.
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And so the cars are staged in the parking lot.
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A lot of people get in Thursday, the event starts Friday.
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And one of the things that we were most looking forward to is
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you get to hang out with the cars and just kind of catch up
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with your friends and there's a little place you can go grab
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some adult refreshments should you feel so inclined and just
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kind of relax with the cars and catch up.
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So Lindsay, is this a Caesar's Palace type gathering?
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Is this like a circus circus type gathering?
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Or is this? Off the strip at a hotel called
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the Orleans and yeah, I mean it was Volkswagens of all forms.
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They had an amazing and I think it was a 21 window light pink
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and white bus that of course, you know, was in my immediate
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favorite outside of the family car, which was Tory built with
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Steve Connect, who was a like legend in the 80s building
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Volkswagens. They took a 1960 factory
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convertible and turned it into an 80s style roadster with
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actually kind of a Gunther Works style top over the back.
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That's what it is. I was trying to place it.
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That was the inspiration was the green speedster with the two
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kind of cargo areas behind the seats.
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That was the inspiration for the top on the roadster.
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So it was a car that had been started in the 80s and stalled
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out as a project and they found it.
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They were talking about it at the event last year and found it
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just after last year's event and transformed it.
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And now it is just the coolest little, you know.
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Tori described it as if it's a if a Trapper Keeper was a car.
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I mean, and obviously I'm dating myself with that reference, but
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a certain group of people will immediately know what I'm
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saying. It's a lot of neon and like tube
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design and just bright, really unique stuff.
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And it's a lavender car. And Steve hand airbrushed the
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neon tube design and the grid pattern, which was his
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signature. And it was really interesting,
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having been a kid in the 80s but not attended these shows, to see
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the 80s style display, which was color matched, you know, tennis
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balls and the engine, which is what they would do for display.
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So you wouldn't pull in particles because the cars are
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sitting there with the tubes open in the engine.
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Otherwise you a bunch of stuff could land in there and color
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matched carpet and mirrors underneath to display because
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they put as much thought into the the pan as they do to the
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visible stuff on top. So yeah, it was amazing.
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Her awards are the categories and awards or.
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Yes, there were. So there were like they had the
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heavy hitters category and that was a wide variety of cars that
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were selected and it was all different kinds.
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Like there was one that had amazing patina, one Beetle that
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had amazing patina and I think they won something.
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And then there was a bus that won and the awards were these
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amazing medallions with the logo of the show and they are so
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heavy. Do you have one handy?
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You just sent. Me a picture.
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I could go grab it. Yeah, play the Jeopardy theme
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and I'll go grab. It Lindsay got the bets.
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Was it flight? The flight.
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Yeah, it was along those along those ones, I think.
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I mean, I think it was, you know, done in, in, in fun.
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Yeah. But it's a hell of a hell of a
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thing to behold. I, you know, so.
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So if you don't know the name Tori, Tori is, is Lindsay's
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fiance. And and I am slowly peeling back
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the onion that is Tori. Look at this thing.
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Wow. I mean, come on, that's epic.
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Yeah. And it's heavy.
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That's what's so crazy. It's made from AVW.
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It is a salvage, yes. It's like this beautiful Teemu
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chain to compliment the medallion.
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So yes, obviously that's not why they did the car, but it was fun
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to have it be recognized. And yeah, I mean, it was blazing
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hot in Vegas, which was a nice change from the Pacific
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Northwest. And it's cool they set up there
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a bunch of, it's a weekend long event.
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And so they set up a bunch of different activities.
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And one of the highlights for us was they do a cruise along the
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Vegas Strip. So all of the cars that are
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drivable and the people that want to participate leave kind
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of en masse and go drive the strip all together.
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And my inaugural experience this year was more memorable than we
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had anticipated because right after we left the hotel, Tori
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goes, oh, the throttle just broke.
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And so the barrel nut had come out of the throttle cable, like
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the throttle cable came loose, barrel nut came off.
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So that is somewhere on the Boulevard that we had pulled off
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onto. So we were able to pull over,
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walk back because we were just a couple blocks from the hotel,
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walk back and take one off of a friend's car, walk back to our
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car, put it on, fix it, go do the cruise, and then come back.
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Wow, so if anyone finds Tori's barrel nut, could you please
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send it to Lindsay? Right.
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I can give you my mailing, my PO Box, but it was like such a
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quintessential VW experience of like, it's going to be exciting.
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And you know, and I know a lot of cars are like this, but sort
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of the interchangeability of like all like we know exactly
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what we need. We just can borrow 1 and then go
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to our activity and then bring it back.
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A couple couple comments questions.
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So as I was saying, when you were grabbing that giant, giant.
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Medallion. Medallion to end all medallion,
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Yeah. Yeah, Tori is really a figure
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right in the Volkswagen scene. I mean, like every time I turn
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around, like I find out some new achievement or whatever.
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And this car really was one of them because he put this thing
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together, I'm sure with your help and you know all that, but
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very, very. Quickly it was with.
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It was all Steve and Tori. I cannot take any credit for
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like. Weeks.
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It was a matter of weeks and and and and my big take away about
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Tori is so I'm from Chicago and Daniel Burnham, Chicago from
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Chicago know this phrase make no small plans and that's Tori.
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Like you know most. Of us would have like not seen
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that through you know and. No.
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Damn it, he did it. I don't know where he finds the,
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you know, the time in the day, but in it the car looked great
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and. It and it's and it's interesting
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because it's I think it photographs really well.
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Not all cars do, and you sort of lose a little bit in the
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pictures even as well as this car photographs.
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Seeing it in person and especially knowing, you know,
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kind of being along for the ride the last few months, I just
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seeing like a fraction of the work they put in.
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Getting to see it in person was really cool because there's an
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element of like, yeah, you've seen it in person or I've seen
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it in pieces and pictures, whatever.
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And to see it all put together, you kind of go like, wow, it's
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really real. And it actually does live up to
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what it looks like in the pictures and it's super cool.
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And then on top of that, he owns a car that was involved in the
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drag racing scene in LA called Bad Temper 2.
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And that was the one that we actually drove.
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So it was cool to get to experience that because it's
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such a piece of history from that period in time.
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So what's the status or the state of Vegas in 2025?
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You know, you hear about, you know.
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We're talking about that because there's a lot of talk about
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Vegas is dead. Uh huh.
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It was packed. Like it was absolutely packed.
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Don't believe what you read. Several, like, I can't even
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count how many times the light would turn green for us to go.
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And there were, like, pedestrian obstacles, you know, presenting
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themselves you. Sorry about certainly.
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No. In fact, I know someone that was
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there recently and they said the rooms were like crazy expensive.
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Yeah, I well, and I had a friend who goes there for work probably
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in the last six months, and she ended up staying like, well,
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outside of Las Vegas, she said. I've never run into this before.
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Las Vegas as a whole was sold out.
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Interesting. Wow.
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Like, I don't know how you do that.
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I never thought that could happen.
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I'll be there in just over a week for the SEMA show.
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Oh nice. Over the SEMA show.
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Yeah. Been a couple years for me, but
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that's a scene. I've never done it so.
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I haven't either. It's, it's just, it's, it's mind
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bogglingly just huge, right? Like it's every, it's every hall
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at the Conference Center and then some.
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And I think I've told you this, but we went a couple years ago
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and we thought we'd be smart and not stay in a casino, in fact,
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stay at the Marriott Courtyard right across from the the
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Conference Center. What we didn't realize is they
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have drifting demonstrations from about 8:00 AM to midnight
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every day. So be careful where you stayed.
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In related to SEMA. To Sema, yeah, basically just,
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you know, makes sense. But after a while that stops
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being so cool. Yeah.
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Yeah, 5 minutes. Right, it loses its charm a
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little bit. Yeah, yeah.
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Well, Dan, where are you staying?
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Do you know? And the it's the hotel connected
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to the conference, so I might have to buy some new airplugs.
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And I I see a lot of drifting in your future.
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Yeah, I won't be drifting asleep, I know that.
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No. It's so Ryan.
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Have you been? I wish you good luck.
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Yeah, thanks. I'll.
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I'll call you guys. You can listen to it.
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Have you been doing anything as exciting?
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Ryan, I know you've had a couple of false starts this week.
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Yeah, but what were you up? What have you been up to?
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God I was. Supposed to drive that Diablo.
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So if you follow me on Autoblog, I was supposed to drive a
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Lamborghini Diablo like 3 months ago and we get around like the
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if you know Denver, if you know Golden, Golden Gate Canyon,
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Great Rd. We get to about the third turn
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and the thing just breaks right? Fortunately I hadn't taken the
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helm yet. In the end it was just some sort
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of shift linkage or something. It wasn't a big deal, but you
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know, Lamborghini Diablo techs are are few and far between and
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so it took a while to get the car looked at.
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Then once it was, it was an easy fix.
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So I was supposed to drive it yesterday.
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It didn't workout. Going to drive it Friday.
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So I'm excited about that. I have never driven that's one.
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You know, I'm trying to check off the poster cars of my youth
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and the Diablo is, is, is one of them, you know, is trying to
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come up with a good like headline.
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And I think it's going to be something along the lines of
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making waves in the cigarette boat of supercars because that's
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kind of the vibe when you get in that thing.
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It's a lot of fiberglass and like, you know, rough edges and
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tons of power. You could you could do something
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about the devils in the detail that that's.
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Well, let me the headline right now is the devils in the details
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and I'm in a Diablo and then the deck, what they call it sort of
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the sub head is something along the lines of this is the, you
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know, the cigarette boat of apparently they don't call them
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cigarette boats anymore. You know, this idea of a
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cigarette. Yeah, it's super powerful, like
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Miami vice type. You know, right now they call
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them something else and and I don't know where ChatGPT is
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right now. I'm sorry, Our, uh, our research
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department or yes or assistant, right?
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But I think they call them Go Fast boats, right?
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Which isn't nearly as cool name as cigarette.
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Cigarette. No, I reject that immediately.
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Yeah, yeah, anyway, so yeah, cigarette boats.
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But I get to finally drive the thing.
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Wow, and you washed your car last weekend?
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This shouldn't be a news item, but Dan, you know and Lindsay,
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you know, because we all have basically the same car that, you
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know, we'd rather drive the thing than wash the thing,
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right, true and I had so much brake dust.
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Thankfully, they're. Black, has you been driving it?
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We take the hose and it's just like this metallic like pool
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that just like goes down into the earth or whatever, right?
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Like without any scrubbing the wheels instantly, like yeah,
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just. Like it was as dirty as it had
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ever, ever been. But, you know, I think it's a
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healthy thing to, to sit and, and, and commune with your car
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once in a while and to really, you know, wash it and take your
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time and get down on your knees and, you know, get into the
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wheels and, and you know, the best you can.
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Those Porsche brake calipers are impossible.
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They're lots of nooks and crannies.
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They're like English muffins. But you know, it's I, I did it
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and it was good. And now I'm afraid to drive the
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thing again because it is so clean.
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It's so clean. Yeah, yeah, it's good.
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I've give it a day or two. Have you got protection on that
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car or is it like a ceramic or? Yeah, I have almost full PPF.
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Of course, it's now five years old when I was told PPF, good
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PPF goes, you know, 9 or 10 years now.
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So, yeah, it's not a huge deal to and and that's a good thing
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because I don't know that I could afford to to wrap it again
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anytime soon. It's like a 5 or $6000
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proposition, right? Yeah, but well worth it.
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I, you know, and in this car, I think everything is covered
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basics for the maybe the doors, you know, you got to, you got to
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save money somewhere. And then the wheels I think had
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a ceramic coating and that helps a great deal in just being able
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to wash, you know, wash the thing the whole car does as
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well. And you know, that's, that's
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super helpful. But what did you opt for a PPF
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on your new 40? I didn't.
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I had a ceramic coated. Well, that.
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Yeah, I kind of broke the bank buying it.
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So yeah, the the ceramic was just one step too far.
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But ceramic coat, you know, helps.
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Obviously it doesn't protect as much.
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No, no, no. It's makes a big difference.
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Lindsay, have you guys done anything with your GT4?
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It had PPF on it when we got it and it's starting to fail in a
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couple areas, but we haven't had it that long, so yeah.
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Yours is 16, so it's probably done when it was new I'm
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guessing and and so you probably got a couple years yet, but.
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I'm not sure because I know it was wrapped several times under
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previous ownership. And so I don't know how that
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works with PPF too. So it may, I think it's, I think
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the PPF is actually relatively new.
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And so it yeah, I think just whatever for whatever reason,
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there's a couple areas where it's lifting.
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So it will need to be addressed before.
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Long we'll put it on BAT when that time comes in.
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It's not a problem. I have to say, I saw, Speaking
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of raps, I saw my first wrapped pole *2 today, guys, just not
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just just tonight on the way to the way home from Target.
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You know, pole star twos are generally driven by kind of, you
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know, I don't want to come uppity folks, but you know,
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your, your, your middle class, your professors and your, you
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know, your office workers and that kind of thing.
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Well, sure enough, I'm coming down the road and coming the
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other direction. I see.
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Do you know Porsche has this great color, I think it's called
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black Gray. It's this they did some of the
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like the 987.2 GT 3RS is in this color or Gray black.
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Maybe this it's just this very, very dark grain.
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It's this great guy anyway, I see this pole start coming.
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It's wrapped in this this color and I know it's wrapped because
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it also has a racing stripe and a giant #2 and a gumball on the
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you just. Want to go like OK tell me
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everything right? Like, and there was like a, a
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young man driving it like it was a, you know, a slammed Civic or,
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you know, BMW or, or whatever. And I, I, yeah, the jury's still
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out, but I had never seen that. Now I have seen it.
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Maybe it'll become a thing as prices come down as leases, you
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know, lease cars are returned. I I don't know but.
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Feel like credit for trying? Yeah.
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We appreciate the enthusiasm. It's what, what was it?
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Is it meet the parents or whatever where you know you can
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you know you can milk anything. Right.
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Like, hey, doesn't necessarily mean that you should, but
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anyway, so OK, so this Gray black, is it like a metallic
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like super dark? Gray color, right?
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So think of like mirror blau, right?
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Like that really, really dark. It's it's Jeff Zwart's favorite
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color and mine think about like the the grey equivalent where
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it's very, very dark, not metallic, you know, not you
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know, it's not quite black, but right, just bring it.
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Back right there, yeah. It's such a such a good color.
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Yeah, I think it's great. Black or black, grey.
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John Deisty, just an underword. If you're listening.
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You can you can clear the air here.
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But I don't know. I think maybe my my pole star
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needs a gumball Dan. There we go.
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What number? What number?
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This was #2 which you should consider a road joke there.
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Just get #1 and then he's like every time you see him, you just
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give him the lose with. Something that's right, I don't
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want to Dr. #2. Or even more, you just you just
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do the wave and like let him be like.
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This thing, I thought it was like when you see another
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Porsche and you 9 times out of 10, maybe not in a, you know,
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lease Macon or something, but if you're in a Porsche sports car,
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9 times out of 1099, times out of 100, you're going to get a
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wave, you're going to get a flash of the lights, you're
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going to get something. So I looked over like ready to
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be like, what's up? You know, And the guy with his
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hat on, you know, to the side didn't even look my direction.
20:34
Sounds like a missed opportunity to me.
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I didn't they I was down in Malibu last Sunday.
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Yeah. Yeah, How was it?
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Good. It was good to get a morning to
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just go for a drive in the Porsche.
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In the Porsche. Nice.
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Decided to go down and I had given some like voucher for a
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coffee shop I'd never been to before, so I thought I'd go get
20:56
free coffee. So I pulled into the car.
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Yeah, I bought into the car park and I knew I was in good company
21:04
straight away because there were two hot rod 60s or 70s, nine
21:08
elevens, one of which belongs to friend of the show Bill Wolfen
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Wolfson. Yeah, Oh.
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Yeah, yes. So I got.
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To see him at Car Week this year.
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Your name. Rather, yeah, Yeah.
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So I literally pulled up and there were GT threes.
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There were two speedsters, modern speedsters, 9 on ones.
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Nice. So I pulled up, not awake,
21:28
needing coffee. And the first thing I hear is
21:30
hey, Danny, who's he talking to? And it was Bill.
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OH. My gosh.
21:36
Nice. And he'd obviously recognize me
21:38
from Instagram and stuff, so. But there was also a famous
21:43
racing driver there. I didn't really know who he was,
21:46
but Court Wagner. Court Wagner.
21:48
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's raced for.
21:51
He's a. Six time champ, and of course
21:54
I'm blanking on the series, but yeah.
21:56
Yeah, and. He's done some, he's done some
21:59
work with Galpin, I think, and yeah, he's in the mix.
22:03
Yeah, so. You guys go for a drive after
22:06
anything or? I unfortunately.
22:08
You know what court leads in that?
22:11
Does he you just let court lead otherwise?
22:14
I don't know the man, but he leads, yeah.
22:17
Yeah, I know. I had to meet up with the guys
22:20
who do the dream drives for kids, So and Eric and the.
22:24
Yeah, yeah. So I, I literally didn't have
22:27
time to go for a drive this time around, but it was a nice drive
22:29
down the coast to get down there and back.
22:31
Excellent. Yeah, so and so.
22:33
Do you want to share where you were or are we keeping it quiet,
22:37
keeping it to yourself? For the next big thing, I'm.
22:40
Which which bit always the name of.
22:42
The coffee shop. Yeah, I want a voucher.
22:44
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's good.
22:46
I can't remember the name of it. I think it's Lux.
22:49
Cafe Lux. That's what I was going to get.
22:51
OK, Is it? You know it?
22:53
Yeah. Cafe Lux.
22:54
I see the. Shopping center there, right?
22:56
Yeah. Like in a little strip mall
22:59
thing, yeah. Yeah.
23:00
Cafe Lux Shout out to Cafe Lux and the coffee was really nice.
23:04
How does? We get one of these vouchers,
23:05
Dan. You have to go to a top secret
23:08
singer evening event. Because it sounds very curated,
23:12
I'm going to be. It's a cute.
23:15
Place and the baristas are always really friendly and
23:19
coffee's good. And it's.
23:21
It's amazing. Yeah.
23:23
Say that again. Pastries were really good, yeah.
23:25
And. I don't know if I thought.
23:27
That but that was the singer event is this in May with the
23:31
NBA you signed Dan is. This I think so the goodie bag
23:33
is is up for discussion I think. Go on, Singer Coffee.
23:41
Oh, that's fun. Yeah.
23:43
Have you tried it yet? I gave it to someone it's just
23:46
gift not like a hey I bought this for you have a free coffee.
23:51
I got this for free, would you like?
23:53
Yeah, yeah. I didn't have a grounding
23:54
machine. Or that's going to be worth like
23:56
$1000 into that bag of Singer coffee.
23:59
Yeah. Yeah, be careful.
24:02
Well, I mean, everything's important, right?
24:04
Yeah, especially Singer. Nicely done.
24:07
Yeah, but I we got hats, we've got baseball caps with Singer
24:12
and Wheelie Springs went on it nice.
24:15
I think it was a lovely book of the photographer.
24:18
They had a photographer around at the track a few months prior
24:21
and a really famous photographer whose name escapes me, but
24:24
lovely book of his work, which I've given away to another
24:27
friend. So lesson here is just big
24:30
Gandhi. Yeah, I was going to say the
24:32
lesson here is be your friend and just hang around at the
24:34
right times. Yeah.
24:36
Oh, Lindsay, don't worry. When I helped Dan move, I walked
24:38
to it with all kinds of goodies. What did you get?
24:41
It's. Like I have party favours for
24:43
you. Get excited.
24:45
Tell you what I got, well I one of the things was a Porsche key
24:49
chain. Which I didn't know.
24:51
I need that now. Well, it's literally got my My
24:55
Alley Padlock key on, so you know, I'm happy to give it back.
25:00
Maya's Max pullover. That's that's here on the shelf
25:04
like a like a piece of art. Do you know?
25:06
Because it was, it was a little tight on me, to be honest.
25:09
I almost wore mine tonight and I was like, what if Ryan wears his
25:12
and then we're twins Did. You notice when I wore that on
25:15
the show, it was from about here up.
25:19
It's a reason I look like a. Size, that's amazing.
25:21
We probably have the same size because when I put it on I look
25:24
very 80s. It's very like oversized, you
25:27
know, flashdance ish. So I think they were
25:31
one-size-fits-all or thereabouts.
25:34
I have no doubt it looks better. Yeah.
25:36
So it's a really good coffee shop.
25:38
I would highly recommend it. I think there's a few of them in
25:40
California. Yeah.
25:42
There's a few. Different locations, yeah, on a,
25:45
on a Sunday morning and and I think I was there pretty early.
25:48
I think I opened eights and I was there for opening so.
25:51
Living the dream man. There was another place up in
25:54
the hills that they go to in a drive afterwards, I can't
25:57
remember the name of it, like the old the old place or the old
26:01
farm or something. Old place.
26:02
Yeah, that's another. That's another destination in
26:06
Malibu, because I think it's back in the Canyon.
26:08
I haven't been there, but I've heard of it.
26:10
Yes. So that's on the list.
26:12
The next time it'll be starting at that coffee shop and then
26:14
going up to the old place. Oh.
26:16
Nice. So when I'm in LA for the auto
26:19
show, we have some driving to do.
26:21
We do vibes. That needs to be done as well,
26:23
right? Absolutely.
26:25
So should we break into some news?
26:28
Let's do it. So the first, what I was looking
26:31
at today is Can you believe that the Toorak, the VW Toorak has
26:36
just been retired, but it, it went on for 24 years.
26:40
Dan, I had to look that up to make sure that that was right.
26:43
Yeah, it's. 24 years. Yeah.
26:46
That seems like a very long time, especially because I can't
26:49
remember the last time I saw a new one on the road.
26:52
We never got the third Gen. in the US, right.
26:54
We only got the first two gens, which were basically I think was
26:57
a facelift, but. That would be why.
27:00
That would be why we haven't seen them for a while, yeah.
27:02
Wow, that explains. It yeah, that third Gen. wasn't
27:06
so good looking. Yes they did AV10 diesel in that
27:10
car. Yeah.
27:12
That's very European. Yeah.
27:14
That's a hot, hot item if you can find one that's.
27:18
Guessing it was part of the PIAC.
27:19
When PIAC was in charge, he had all these different cars
27:22
commissioned, didn't he? So that in the US came out in
27:25
O2, right? The tour, Yeah, OK.
27:28
And I think we've discussed this before.
27:30
It was named after a band of, I don't know, Mary Travellers or
27:34
something in the Saharan. Desert tribe, wasn't it?
27:38
Yeah, right, right. And plus, Volksman has this T
27:41
thing that yeah, that they do, you know, and don't be confused
27:46
with the Tiguan because the Touareg is was really something
27:49
special. Tiguan fine car owned one.
27:51
As you know, listen to me and listen to the show for a while
27:54
had run up until a couple years ago.
27:55
Fine thing. But the Touareg really was
27:57
something special. Do you know, they shared a, a
27:59
platform with, you know, with the Cayenne.
28:01
You know, they also shared the Cayenne's locking differentials,
28:05
right. To your point, Dan, there was a,
28:06
a whole spectrum of power trains and this was 2002.
28:10
And think back to 2002 Volkswagen, right?
28:13
The Volkswagen lineup of 2002. And like, what was what was in
28:17
that? I mean that that was like peak
28:19
Volkswagen because you could still buy the Euro van in the
28:22
United States in 2002. Oh, wow.
28:24
You know, the, the New Beetle was still new, right?
28:26
We still think that is new. That's 25 years old too.
28:29
I think they just called that what last year or something.
28:32
The Jetta was. That was like peak Jetta.
28:34
Right, R32. Was it the Golf R32?
28:37
Yeah, yeah. And it's still on a manual.
28:40
Yeah. No, I mean, you know the Passat,
28:43
you could get the Passat with the W8.
28:46
Yeah. The next year in 2003, you could
28:48
get the Phaeton, right, with either A8 or AW12.
28:52
This was those were magic times for Volkswagen.
28:56
How the mighty have fallen, yeah.
28:58
Yeah. Yeah.
29:00
So Dan, I think Ryan and I, and maybe you were with Ryan, we've
29:04
both seen that same phaeton at the Peterson.
29:07
I don't know if it's still lurking around or if it's
29:10
working. Is the word, but I love that
29:12
thing. I think it got sold.
29:13
I don't know, but I think it got sold.
29:15
Yeah. You don't.
29:16
You don't see them anymore, do you?
29:18
No, no. No, I mean, it was, it was such
29:21
a rare sighting even in the moment and then sort of see one
29:24
within the last couple of years was like, wait, I've got to be
29:27
imagining this. Yeah, it was an excellent
29:29
example if I recall. And it was the W 12 because you
29:32
could also get them in the V8, you know, and if you're not
29:35
familiar with the car, it was like this Passat extra, right?
29:38
It was it was basically a a Bentley, right?
29:41
It had it. Was, yeah, it was their attempt
29:43
at a luxury car. And it was equivalent, like at
29:46
least to the consumer, it was equivalent to an A8, but it also
29:50
had an A8 price tag. And I remember multiple people
29:53
saying like, well, if I'm paying this and unfortunately if I'm
29:57
getting, I'm not getting the cachet of the Audi label, but
30:00
I'm paying an Audi price. Like why wouldn't I just go buy
30:02
the a 8? And so it was a great car.
30:05
I actually got to see them when they debuted.
30:07
Speaking of our most recent episode with Andy or our most
30:11
recent non bonus episode with Andy Steinhauser, I got to see
30:15
it at the LA Auto Show when they debuted.
30:17
When it was new, yeah. Yeah, it.
30:19
First came out and it was striking, like it was a
30:22
beautiful car. But yeah, the comment was like,
30:25
OK, but it's not an Audi. So I think that was a tough
30:29
thing for it to overcome, yeah. We, we, we talk about when, when
30:33
OEM's have just sort of like the perfect lineup, right?
30:36
Like we're all, when all the stars align.
30:38
We talk about early 90s Nissan, right, and the maximum of the
30:42
four door sports car, the introduction of the Altima, you
30:44
know, the 300ZX, the 240SX, that OG Pathfinder with a little
30:49
triangle window. Like, you know, I mean, it was
30:51
just, you know, that was it, right, Like 1990 Nissan
30:55
dealership, right? You know, Honda right, Maybe a
30:58
couple years before that when you'd walk in or when they
31:00
introduced the new Accord in 1990.
31:02
And I, I feel like Volkswagen in the, you know, that really the
31:05
mid 2000s was about as good as Volkswagen ever got.
31:09
And it's just unfortunately, it's not quite the same anymore
31:12
for a number of reasons. But that Touareg to come back to
31:15
that was over built like you wouldn't believe.
31:17
I don't know if you either one of you've ever driven one, but
31:19
when we were shopping for our Tiguan, when the Tiguan was
31:22
still a relatively new thing, I wanted a Touareg.
31:24
I wanted like a 2 year old Touareg.
31:25
But you know, we then wanted the, the warranty and everything
31:28
else got the Tiguan. But even though they kind of
31:30
looked the same, it was not this, you know, that that
31:32
Touareg was was was a rig, you know, that was something you
31:36
could off road. You know, it's just it was a
31:39
special overbuilt thing, much like the Phaeton or the Passat
31:42
W8 or what have you. And I don't know, pour one out,
31:46
I guess, huh? Yeah.
31:47
It's gone. They've also I was reading today
31:50
or yesterday. The ID buzz is on hold.
31:55
Yes, I saw that is. This a tariffs thing?
31:58
What is this? It's a demand.
32:01
Sales, yeah, demand. They're just not selling.
32:04
They're just not selling. This is a real shame cuz I liked
32:07
it when I drove it. Yeah, so was.
32:09
It a price you got to drive one when we were at the Seattle Auto
32:12
Show, Yeah, last year. Which is probably this time last
32:16
year, wasn't it? Yeah, it was coming up, I think
32:18
it was early November, but they, you know, they had that stop
32:23
sale on them with no explanation.
32:26
And the the, you know, rumors were that it was because they
32:30
just weren't selling and that they were trying to mitigate it
32:33
by just saying like, Oh well, we're going to pause sales.
32:36
And so I wonder if this is kind of they've, they've accepted
32:41
like it's just not happening. And so they're like, yeah, we're
32:43
just going to pause sales or we're going to pause the
32:46
manufacturing because they're not selling.
32:48
So obviously the end of September, the credits ended in
32:51
lots of States, and I wonder if that was the nail on the coffin
32:54
for the moment. It's a good theory.
32:57
Say once they started slapping the the vinyl wood on the side a
33:01
la PT Cruiser, I started, you know, questioning maybe the.
33:04
The days were numbered, were they?
33:05
State of things it's a real shame because I've still only
33:09
seen a handful out and about and the whole family makes a .0 yeah
33:12
there's, you know, the new Volkswagen bus or whatever
33:15
right? They mean they're, they, they
33:16
make a statement and they're cool and and I've not driven
33:20
one, but I think they're neat. And what a what a shame, you
33:23
know, because we, we, you know, you know, we, we sit and we
33:26
whine about, you know, where all, where have all the
33:28
interesting cars gone? Right well.
33:31
Then we have to learn to buy them when they show, Yeah.
33:34
But aren't they like 80 grand? Yeah, they're not cheap.
33:37
Yeah, it's an easy car to love though, isn't it?
33:40
Like just to look at it. Yeah.
33:41
Yeah, yeah. Who?
33:42
I mean, you can't hit on that, right?
33:44
You got to look at that and smile.
33:45
But I got to say, other than when it was first introduced and
33:48
they did that, it was the The Californians parody on the
33:51
Volkswagen, you know, commercial, I don't think I've
33:53
seen a bit of advertising for that thing since.
33:57
Nice, I may have seen a print ad or two but like don't quote me
34:01
on it. And I actually saw one-on-one of
34:04
my Rd. trips over the summer. I saw a solid black one which
34:07
was really unique and striking, especially because most of them
34:12
are the white with a color on the bottom.
34:14
So just the one that was all one color and then black.
34:18
It was the only one I've ever seen like that.
34:20
And it was, it was very stealth. It's like, oh wait, I think I
34:23
could like really get into that. I'd like that and I'll make a
34:27
prediction that it will come back with with an internal
34:30
combustion engine and can't call it the buzz anymore.
34:33
Let's call it the bus, but it'll come back.
34:35
They, they put too much investment in the thing.
34:37
It's too good. I think they just did.
34:39
They swung and missed with it just being only electric.
34:42
Yeah. Well, that would follow with a
34:44
lot of, I mean, Porsche has retracted like that's they're
34:48
not the only ones that might be pivoting on that, Yeah.
34:51
I think it will come back, but I don't think it'll have an ICE
34:53
engine. I think it will come back with
34:55
much more range because I think that's what it needs, OK.
34:58
I think if you can get something that's got 500 miles out of it
35:02
for a similar price and I guess the timing there is just battery
35:05
tech, I think it then becomes more appealing.
35:08
But I think, I think it was like less than 300 mile range if I
35:11
remember already well. You've got the room.
35:13
It's not like it's some sub compact, right?
35:15
I mean you've got like that's the thing.
35:16
You've got room for batteries in right, right floor and floor and
35:20
all that. So interesting.
35:22
Well, and like you said, if it's it's not a cheap car and if the
35:27
range feels a lot more limited, that's a harder sell.
35:31
Then if you've got something where you're like, yeah, like
35:34
it's electric and it's a little bit pricier, but it's a really
35:37
cool thing and I know I can take it and go on these trips.
35:40
And not worry about it. That's it.
35:41
It's not a Nissan Leaf, it's a road trip car.
35:44
It's got to be able to make Rd. trips, right?
35:47
That's actually be able to take the trips.
35:50
Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, watch this
35:53
space. I feel like we're saying that a
35:54
lot with a lot of OEMs. It's kind of we're going to look back
35:58
on this time period as the sort of like, OK, we'll check back
36:02
and see which direction they decided to go.
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So do you like my Derek TM Scott collection?
36:53
I was going to say I like, yeah, I like your vest.
36:57
Do you want to explain what you're?
36:59
Wearing Oh sure, I've got a Colorado grand vest, so.
37:03
It's not a John Dicey knockoff. No, but I would take one of
37:09
those too. Preferably very large and on a
37:12
T-shirt. Maybe something sleeveless.
37:16
So yeah, Colorado grand, the famous, you know, Colorado Grand
37:19
Arrow. And we of course had Derek Tam
37:22
Scott and tattoo Otis on a few weeks ago.
37:25
And then the following week there they were on the
37:28
curmudgeon show, as they should be and, and resplendent in their
37:33
their grand gear. So I'm just.
37:35
He's your he's your fashion muse.
37:37
Now that's. Right, that's perfect.
37:39
It's just my lifestyle muse. I think those guys have it all
37:42
figured out. So those guys, when they came to
37:46
the Grand, right, the rest of us from the Grandeur, they had
37:48
their own OTSOTS as their business.
37:50
They had their own branded OTS gear on.
37:53
They had, well, the rest of us were in these, you know, I don't
37:57
know, vests and coats and things.
37:58
They cut quite a profile in matching white.
38:02
Let's call them Italian valet jackets, right?
38:06
For lack of a better, you know. And that cut.
38:09
Very elegant and right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:11
And so next year, they should be.
38:14
Following their car show jackets.
38:16
Right. Yeah, I I don't think the
38:19
tailored fit is. I don't think Italian ballet is
38:22
the look. But yeah, it's I.
38:24
Think. They're young, they're.
38:27
They're workshop chic is the look.
38:29
There you go. That's right.
38:31
Yeah. Amazing.
38:33
Did you guys see that Leah Block has a new project car?
38:37
No. What is it?
38:38
So you need to go to Block House racing to to check it out.
38:42
But car at the moment maybe I guess when you sell a car, it
38:46
becomes car at the moment is a GR Corolla.
38:49
So I know Ryan, you've got coming up in a couple of weeks.
38:52
Leah Block is starting a project to modify one.
38:55
Nice. I think it needs that.
38:57
I think it needs a little injection right of something.
39:00
Drive it first. Once you've driven it, then
39:03
comment. OK, OK.
39:05
Yeah. I just feel like they were like
39:06
the, the, the next big thing there for a minute.
39:08
Just don't hear the talk anymore.
39:10
You know, it's I, I'll go on record.
39:13
I've, I've, I've, I've been a passenger in one.
39:15
I've never spent any time as a driver.
39:19
And I wanted to get one, one of the last 2020 fives before they
39:24
were replaced with the 26 in the press fleets, because I
39:27
understand for 26 there are some changes.
39:30
And Dan, you may know more than I.
39:32
You owned a GR Corolla. You no longer own a GR Corolla.
39:36
Right now it's cool. Your timing is impeccable, Dan.
39:42
I mean, you, you liked it, but did you love it?
39:44
Because if you loved it, would you still have it?
39:48
There was a logistics challenge, there was a like if I had loads
39:52
of space for different cars and loads of money, then I'd have
39:54
another one like, it's as simple as that.
39:56
But I don't. So you know 2 car solutions and
40:00
three cars doesn't work right? And I'm excited to drive it in
40:05
Colorado because I think it's such a great Colorado car,
40:07
right? It's like a WRX, but with, you
40:10
know, more guts And, you know, this one's a manual, so I'm
40:14
excited for that. And yeah, I get to spend the
40:16
week with it. You know, I don't know.
40:18
I'm going to take it up in the mountains.
40:19
We've got some snow. I, you know, probably has P4SS
40:22
or something. But yeah, I'm looking forward to
40:25
beating on it a little. I'm forward to driving it
40:27
responsibly. Yeah.
40:30
I'd like to go on record as saying I will be fully
40:32
respectful of the car. The end.
40:34
Absolutely. You know I am.
40:35
But yeah, yeah, I could never hurt a car.
40:38
No. Yeah, I'm excited to see what
40:40
you think of it. Yeah, so that I am too.
40:42
I have two blocks. Pick one.
40:44
She's working on one and you know.
40:46
That's really cool. What's she gonna do with it?
40:48
Like, is it a, is it a powertrain thing?
40:50
Is it a styling exercise? A little bit of everything?
40:52
Like what's? I think if you look at the
40:55
history of the cars that she's had, like, you know, she had an
40:57
Audi short wheelbase, for example, you know, they go to
41:00
town and they do everything so excellent.
41:03
Yeah. I mean, Johnny's already done
41:04
that, hasn't he, On his car? That's.
41:06
Right. Have you been in his car,
41:08
Lindsay? I haven't.
41:09
No. No, but I love the blue.
41:12
Yeah, this is Johnny Lieberman, who was on the show, and he has
41:16
customized his GR Corolla. There's nothing more than
41:19
touched, I think, right? Pure and.
41:23
It sounds like. Some things have been done 3 or
41:24
4 times. Yeah, because he was getting,
41:28
what was it they were sending him, I think like the USB, and
41:32
they were flashing it daily and then looking at the ratings and
41:34
then adjusting. And yeah, that sounded like they
41:37
were having a lot of fun with that.
41:38
Yeah. That's.
41:40
Good talk, I'll. Definitely report back.
41:42
Yeah. I don't know if it's true or
41:44
not, but this story appeared in Top Gear Philippines and.
41:49
We're big there too, for the record.
41:51
That's right, that's where we're at #68 in that chart.
41:55
But they, they shared a story about a couple in the UK.
42:00
Actually, you are very near to where I went to university.
42:04
Oh, really? And what do you do when you
42:06
celebrate 70 years of marriage? You go buy a 9/11.
42:10
You go buy a 911, but you go buy a GT3.
42:13
There you go. So if this story is true, it's
42:15
probably the story that has broken the Internet this week in
42:18
terms of just a heartwarming story about how you know you
42:22
celebrate 70 years together by buying one of the best sports
42:26
cars you can buy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:29
I wondered if this was true. I think it was my dad who first
42:33
sent this to me. Like, I get all my best, you
42:35
know, news items. You you really do have your own
42:39
research assistant. It's just your dad.
42:40
Yeah. It's a real live boy, but this
42:44
couple in the picture, like, you know, like when you see an AI
42:47
generated image, you just can't quite put your finger on it.
42:50
Uncanny valley or whatever. And and and you know, just these
42:54
two were just too perfect. And I think it is legit.
42:57
I think this is a real couple, but now it's been picked up and,
43:01
and, and, you know, and, and kind of like a copy of a copy
43:04
and people have added new, you know, new twists to the story.
43:07
They're embellishing the story. New jokes because it's like the
43:10
cutest looking couple right Then the the article you sent me, Dan
43:15
said that, but this is nothing new for them because in 2015
43:18
they picked up a a new TTS or something or TTRS and they drove
43:21
Norway and back so. But then no you I.
43:25
Know I mean. Good on them, you know, and if
43:28
they are fake, you know, people are having relationships with
43:31
chat bots now. I mean, this can be my chat bot
43:34
spirit animal. These two, you know, it's we.
43:37
Wish them the best, whether they exist or not.
43:40
It was funny because they imprompted me this morning to
43:42
text our our friend at Porsche Corrado Springs.
43:45
And I asked him, what is the oldest person you've sold a car
43:49
to? And he said, well, I once sold a
43:52
car to a guy who was half blind, and the next day his kids
43:56
brought the car back. It's a name.
44:01
And he would play anonymous. But we know who you are, John.
44:05
Yeah. Well, you hear stories like this
44:09
and I'm not this would never happen with John or at Portia
44:12
Carter, I suppose, of course, right.
44:13
But you hear stories about, you know, some guy walks in and, you
44:16
know, walks out with like, you know, three different under
44:18
coding packages, this kind of thing.
44:21
And and but these two people seemed like legit.
44:25
They seemed if real, seemed like the real deal.
44:27
And I mean, why not, you know? I mean, I saw it and I just, I
44:33
think I like, I just loved it so much.
44:36
It was like, what a perfect way to celebrate.
44:38
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Good on them, good on them.
44:40
That's what I'm. Saying but but is it a stick?
44:44
I don't know. In the picture I'm looking at
44:46
the picture now there is a stick but it's OK, it's one to walk
44:50
with I think. You got to refine your question.
44:54
Ryan. If you look in the back corner
44:56
there is a walking stick. OK, well, this is a guy, this is
45:00
a couple. I'll give them a pass if they go
45:01
PDK. Right, they look like PDK
45:04
drivers. At this point they may have been
45:07
manual drivers in the past. Yeah, nobody's going to be
45:10
crudge them. Yeah, exactly.
45:12
Well, if we're so lucky, right, they're doing the same thing, so
45:16
good on them, yeah. That's it, I.
45:17
Think we get them on the show? Is it?
45:18
Have you seen them on Spike's car radio yet?
45:20
Because I haven't. I mean, let's lock this in.
45:23
Yeah. Yeah, Dan, they're from your
45:25
town. Or your.
45:26
Yeah, from my universe. Make it happen.
45:29
Let's go. Find them.
45:32
He's going to come back and be like, so they don't exist, but
45:36
it's fine. I really hope they do exist.
45:39
It's the best story ever. It's the best.
45:41
Story You want to exist. Isn't it naturally?
45:43
You want to happen? Absolutely.
45:45
Especially as car people like and you know, it's like the
45:48
intersection of car people and hopeless romantics and you're
45:51
just like, yes, I love all of it.
45:53
Yeah, yeah. I want to say mic drop, but when
45:55
you're 92 maybe that's not the phrase to use.
45:58
Yeah, it's just drop. Oh no.
46:05
Oh man, I know. I hope it's real and I hope
46:07
they're enjoying the hell out of that car.
46:08
Should we make it competition time?
46:11
Yes, let's do. It yeah.
46:12
So in the latest round of winning a Sheffield watch and
46:17
and just to be clear, right, this is a watch.
46:20
If you're choosing, it's not like we're going to make you
46:22
have one that's, you know, not selling or anything like that.
46:25
It's just like you can go onto the website, you can say I want
46:29
that watch and if you win the competition, we will get that
46:32
watch sent to you. So what we thought we would do
46:35
this week is something slightly different.
46:38
So these are high value, really good watches.
46:40
We all wear them, we all have them, we'll take them out.
46:43
So we want to make your work a little bit harder and a little
46:46
bit differently this time to win the watch.
46:48
And what we would love you to do is please drop us a comment on
46:53
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46:57
reason, but Spotify the. Ads are working.
47:00
That's right. T Moo.
47:02
T moo drop us a comment on Shopify on the show, not my just
47:08
personal playlist, but on the show and just give us some
47:11
feedback. Maybe it's a guest that you want
47:14
to see on the show. Maybe it's a show you really
47:17
enjoyed and you're just commenting about that specific
47:19
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47:22
Podcasts. So they're 2 main platforms.
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And then we will take all those comments.
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We will pick one at random and notify you that you've won a
47:32
Sheffield watch, and if you want to have a look at what watches
47:35
you could win, go on to sheffieldwatches.com.
47:39
I'm really enjoying the rally, which is 1 I received about
47:43
three weeks ago. I've got the Spikes car Radio
47:45
One on today, but I'm really enjoying the rally.
47:48
I think it's very unique. Lindsay, you got a pink one
47:50
recently, is that right? I did, and I have been reaching
47:53
for that more than anything, which won't surprise anybody
47:56
that's watching us because I'm wearing a sweater that's bright
47:59
pink, too, and all of the Sheffield watches make me smile.
48:03
That one in particular, because it's so bright, especially in
48:06
the Pacific Northwest, where it has now gotten grey, you know,
48:09
for the duration. So it's nice to have some bright
48:11
pops of color, but I've also been reaching for my Spikes car
48:14
radio because it's just so classic and, you know, goes with
48:18
blue really well. So I really love all of them.
48:23
I wear the yellow, yeah, the yellow QL one I wear more than
48:27
probably any other watch. And one could say it's just
48:31
because it's a quartz watch with a battery and I don't have to
48:33
set the time, you know, but it's super low profile.
48:38
It doesn't snag and stuff. It looks good.
48:39
I get more comments on that thing.
48:41
You know, what is that? Because it's got the dial
48:43
that's, you know, what are we calling that dial?
48:46
Oh, it's a pilot, pilot style. Yeah, it's the yeah, it's just
48:50
we're. So it's kind of an.
48:51
Angle and yeah, I don't know. It's designed to be worn on the
48:53
inside of your wrist, right? Which I do not do but.
48:57
Part of this so when you're driving, instead of having to
48:59
turn your wrist, you can just look up.
49:02
I'm going to try that the next time I'm driving.
49:04
There we go. I'm going to just see what
49:05
that's all. About and.
49:08
Then flash it to #2 in the pole star.
49:13
Do the wave with the hand that has the watch on the inside.
49:17
So just in summary, if you want to win a watch, we're going to
49:20
pick it random, but you've got to put a comment on either
49:23
Spotify or Apple Podcasts and it's a it's specific to our
49:28
shows. So put a comment about either
49:30
future guests or something you would like feedback wise or
49:33
something that you've really enjoyed.
49:36
So that's how you could win. Yeah, and best of luck to
49:39
everyone. Yeah, indeed, indeed, if you.
49:42
Win the annual Show up at your door at the giant check and.
49:46
Yeah. Sheffield did you have that in
49:49
the UK? That was like such a part of our
49:51
television landscape in the US growing up, right?
49:53
Would you like Publishers Clearing House?
49:55
And no, we didn't. We used to get the TV
49:57
commercials where the the dude would turn up and promise to do
50:00
to turn people's whites even whiter with, you know, we.
50:04
Had that too. Yeah.
50:06
Yeah, that and we had the woman that would show up and talk to
50:09
you about dish soap. Yeah.
50:12
So if you don't comment, if you don't comment on either of those
50:15
two platforms, we'll send someone around to talk to you
50:17
about dish soap. Oh really?
50:21
Everyone wins is the way it works.
50:23
Yes, yes. What have we got coming up?
50:26
Anything exciting coming up, folks?
50:28
Part of the Diablo, which he's milking till.
50:30
Yeah. That's my.
50:32
He's just going to sit there with Devil Horn.
50:34
It's like, I don't know if you. Know Lindsay, what have you got
50:37
coming up? I'm going to try.
50:40
This weekend is not looking promising.
50:42
It's looking like it's going to be very a lot of precipitation
50:45
up here. But I'm going to try and get out
50:47
for another drive as soon as it's sunny and I have the time
50:50
because it's not below freezing yet.
50:53
And I feel like I want to, you know, ring the seat the driving
50:57
season for as much as I can at least.
51:00
Nice. Yeah.
51:03
And nothing above every and above the temple is going to be
51:05
the highlight, right? But what else have you got?
51:07
I'm. Going to do the same I mean the
51:08
driving season here in Denver is, you know, it seems like a
51:11
bit of a an extended summer but yeah, eventually we're going to
51:16
see some snow. It's getting down to freezing at
51:17
night head. If you live in Denver, you
51:20
chances are you have a sprinkler system and then there's this
51:22
ritual in the fall of blowing out the sprinkler system and you
51:25
know that has happened. So that's kind of the the
51:28
telltale sign the the beating heart of of winter.
51:33
And and so, yeah, I know it's around the coast.
51:36
Yeah, I want to go out and drive as well.
51:37
Big fuel fed. It's if you live in the Denver
51:39
area, give it a plug to fuel fed.
51:41
Fuel fed has the final Boulder. I'll never, I'll never remember
51:46
what they call the thing. It's not cars and coffee, cars
51:48
and caffeine or caffeine and cars, whatever.
51:49
It's on Pearl Street and Boulder.
51:51
That's this Sunday and I'm going to try to make it to that Always
51:56
fun. And yeah, last one of the
51:58
season, right. I mean, yeah, it's.
52:00
I think yeah, you guys are having a longer season.
52:03
I think all the cars and coffees here have pretty.
52:05
Much wrapped up, really. Yeah.
52:07
Yeah, well, I might go down on Sunday to Malibu and the coffee
52:11
shop. Maybe I'll get enough courage to
52:14
challenge court to pink slips. Who knows?
52:18
We will see. So TuneIn next week to see who
52:21
won. Yeah, where that car is gone.
52:24
Or at least coffee vouchers. Yes, but yeah, race for coffee
52:28
vouchers. I like that.
52:29
That's less risk, isn't it? That's so Malibu.
52:33
Right, that's a bit safer. I feel way more comfortable
52:35
racing for coffee vouchers than racing for pigs, right?
52:39
Yeah, it's good coffee. Could that be a puddle for our
52:42
show? Racing for coffee vouchers?
52:44
Yeah, goodbye. It could.
52:46
Be that's how Southern California is that like, talk
52:50
about tying up cars, like tying together cars and coffee in the
52:53
best way. Yeah, yeah.
52:56
Was there anything else people wanted to talk about this week?
52:59
I thought it was really interesting that you brought up
53:01
the Toyota bringing the century or turning the century as a into
53:07
a brand here. Yeah.
53:09
In the. States, you know, it's been a
53:10
car in Japan and at least one of the articles I was reading about
53:15
it, I was really intrigued by the way they were talking about
53:19
what they are hoping to do with the Century brand and
53:24
particularly in relation to the Lexus brand.
53:26
That's the question because they the way at least the interview
53:31
that I read they were talking about the intent is for century
53:36
to be thought of as kind of the premier luxury brand so that
53:40
Lexus can be quote freer. And what struck me is, you know,
53:46
Lexus has built up this kind of loyal following over the years.
53:50
And they've been known as, to me, the way they were describing
53:55
the Century as kind of this peak luxury brand.
53:57
And that's what they stand for. And it's quality and people know
54:00
they're dependable, but also really nice cars.
54:03
And so I'm curious, like I'd love to know kind of the back
54:07
story on that because with Century being a new brand, I was
54:12
reading it going, well, wait a minute.
54:13
So you're going to try and seemingly give the market share
54:17
of Lexus to Century and then have Lexus go off and be who
54:21
knows what. So I'm curious to hear your
54:23
guys, your thoughts. Don't What do you think?
54:27
Yeah. Don't you think that Lexus has
54:28
progressively gotten sportier, right.
54:31
And sort of gotten further away from its luxury roots?
54:33
So I I think that's where Century comes in.
54:35
That said, it's a weird like if you've been to Japan, if you're
54:37
a JDM person, you know about Century, but 99% of Americans
54:41
don't that that doesn't mean anything to them, right?
54:44
Right. So century almost sounds like, I
54:46
mean, there was a Buick century, right?
54:48
Like, I don't know if that name is is is necessarily hitting for
54:51
me, at least as an American, but.
54:54
No, I think it's evoking the Buicks, yeah.
54:58
I don't know. If you're going in above the
55:00
Lexus, right, I mean, famously when Lexus, Lexus first came
55:05
out, like people like Porsche cook in Lexuses to test and they
55:12
would, they would use them for noise testing specifically.
55:17
So they they set benchmarks really early on.
55:20
So why do you do away with that? You know, all that hard work
55:25
that's gone in. And I can only think that Lexus
55:27
then becomes more of a lifestyle brand.
55:30
So it becomes the brand for golfers or the brand for people
55:33
that like to go off roading or the brand that, you know, people
55:36
who don't, they play tennis, they are sporty, but they still
55:42
don't have, I guess what I would call really sporty cars.
55:46
They're luxury cars. They were like GT cars I had.
55:51
Is it the LC or the LS500, the convertible LC?
55:55
Yeah, LC luxury coupe. There we go.
55:58
But they're not they're not sporty sporty like they're not
56:02
Porsche sporty or they're not So, but I think if they go
56:06
lifestyle, but I think, you know, establishing a new brand
56:09
that's luxury and probably going up against Mercedes-Benz, it's
56:13
like right big. Or even Ben especially because.
56:16
They've, yeah, they've invested so much in Lexus, which I think
56:21
up to this point does hold its own with kind of the big name,
56:24
you know, longer running luxury brands.
56:28
So like, I'm really curious to see how this plays out because I
56:31
went, yeah, you've done all this work to establish Lexus and it
56:34
has this market share and this loyal following.
56:37
Yeah. And yeah, it's fascinating.
56:41
Will they do AV 12 which they're known for in Japan?
56:46
Right, They do a 12 century sedan or something, at least for
56:49
a short time. Yeah, it's it's an interest.
56:53
You know, they're still one of the V8 hold holdouts, right.
56:55
I mean, if you want AV eight in a car, right.
56:57
Yeah, You know, Lexus is really one of the few brands you can
56:59
get something like that. It's interesting.
57:01
I back in the day, Dan, I don't know in the UK, but Lindsay, you
57:04
remember when Infinity and and Lexus were, were new and, you
57:09
know, Infinity very famously had their naturalistic sort of like
57:13
if a haiku were a car, right. It would have been Infinity, you
57:18
know, and at about the same time that Lexus was a thing and they
57:20
totally ate the S class, you know, down to the headlights and
57:23
everything else. You, you know, were you camp
57:26
Infinity or camp Camp Lexus back in the back in the day?
57:29
Did you have a favorite? Because.
57:31
I was more camp skeptic because like you said, I remember when
57:35
those brands came into being and it was very like, up to that
57:40
point, luxury cars had been really Mercedes and BMW and Audi
57:45
was there but didn't have, you know, nearly the market share,
57:49
you know. So I remember just kind of going
57:52
like, well, what is this? And in a lot of ways they were
57:56
just rebadged Toyotas or, you know, Nissan's and then Honda
58:02
had Acura, obviously. And it was like, well, is this
58:04
really a thing? Like, is this going to be a
58:06
going concern? And obviously the cars became
58:10
more differentiated, the luxury brands versus the sort of
58:14
standard models. But yeah, initially it was like
58:16
you're paying a lot of money for a name like a different badge.
58:21
So yeah, that's my I was team skeptic.
58:26
Did you have the two options in the UK and were they called
58:29
Infinity and Lexus or? Not early on.
58:32
Early on there was just Lexus. So Infinity came much later, I
58:36
think because they were part of also part of the Renault group.
58:40
And we did. I don't even know if we had
58:43
Acura. I think we had Acura but not it
58:45
was all Honda like for us the NSX was branded Honda.
58:49
Where it was an. Acura over here.
58:53
I think back then too, you know, that Infinity really styled
58:55
themselves after BMW. Look at the Q45.
58:58
That was a 7 Series, right? Yeah.
59:00
You know, I mean, that that I think was the distinction that
59:02
Infinity was. I was the sporty brand.
59:04
I mean, was last you heard anything about Infinity really,
59:06
you know, and Acura, like we didn't.
59:08
Acura is not on my radar anymore.
59:09
But yet I've driven a couple new Acuras and they're fantastic.
59:13
They're like the Honda of yore, right?
59:15
Like they still have that inherent goodness.
59:16
But I, I feel like I guess what I'm getting at this, Lexus is
59:19
really the only of the three that really is kind of relevant
59:23
currently, right? So, and it sounds like to me
59:26
that they would roll the dice with it, you know?
59:28
Yeah, yeah. I think that's what it felt like
59:31
reading, you know, what they're hoping for.
59:33
Like, is this really the way we need to be going?
59:37
That said, send us some Century Press cars when they're.
59:39
Around. Well, yeah, V.
59:41
Twelves I mean, the good news is with Toyota is you know, they're
59:45
they're the number one, aren't they?
59:46
They, they're the highest performing automotive company in
59:49
the world. So they can afford to try some
59:52
things, take some risks. Yeah.
59:55
Well, and I wonder how much of that like bringing the century
59:59
here as a brand, how much of that is because it's been this
1:00:04
very established luxurious model in Japan as a singular model?
1:00:09
So maybe this is the way to sort of mitigate like the
1:00:12
intersection of like it was one brain, you know, one model.
1:00:14
But we didn't have it here. Yeah.
1:00:16
So like you said, Ryan, like we don't know.
1:00:18
The only the only century reference we have is the Buick.
1:00:21
And they're making them anyway, right?
1:00:22
Might as well try to sell them other places.
1:00:24
There's that. Yeah, why not watch out for the
1:00:27
press, car and the article online?
1:00:31
Autoblog. Dot com if only they would
1:00:35
follow me back on Instagram. That's that's what really burns
1:00:38
me. So you need to fill that in as
1:00:41
jokes every time, like at the end of your article.
1:00:46
Just love Note 2 to them. Follow me.
1:00:49
Absolutely, yeah. And see if they pick up the
1:00:51
hints. But you've got a few articles
1:00:54
coming out, haven't you, On Can you talk about them or is it too
1:00:59
early? So, well, I'll tell you about
1:01:00
another. I'll tell you about one more.
1:01:02
So I definitely want to write about our pal Toms GT3 Rs 40,
1:01:07
but more I guess more forthcoming in the pipeline.
1:01:12
Actually, we're talking about Jay and Sheffield watches Jay
1:01:15
Turkbus. So I sat down with him last week
1:01:18
and a nice discussion about sort of the Genesis, if you will, of,
1:01:22
of Sheffield and his story. And he sent over some pictures
1:01:26
today because I need some pictures for the article.
1:01:29
And so there's some great shots and stuff I really, really want.
1:01:31
You know, there's this legend of him getting this, you know,
1:01:34
Sheffield Watch when he was 15 or 12 or whatever it was, right?
1:01:37
And I was hoping, hoping, hoping that there was a picture of him
1:01:40
like standing proudly with this. Ironically I do not have a
1:01:43
Sheffield if you're watching this but.
1:01:47
Don't look too closely, but anyway, moving.
1:01:48
On I will tomorrow, you know, so I'm really actually very excited
1:01:51
about that because he's got a great story and Jay's a great
1:01:53
guy and you know, you know, Autobots got like 2.3 million
1:01:59
sets of eyeballs every day or something.
1:02:00
So there you go. I'm looking forward to sharing
1:02:03
Jay's story so that that'll be the next one, you know, right
1:02:06
event. And eventually I'll get this
1:02:08
Diablo article, I swear. Yes, yeah, third time did.
1:02:12
Diablo. The Diablo article is just the
1:02:14
perpetual tease. He's like, by the way, I already
1:02:16
know I'm never gonna drive it, but I'm just gonna keep teasing.
1:02:18
Yeah. Next week, read all the other
1:02:20
ones in between. I gotta get so enough plugs for
1:02:22
me. How about a plug for Tori, who
1:02:24
had an article in the Autopian this week?
1:02:27
That's right, he did. When you talk about that like
1:02:29
that hit me out of you know, that was on the left field that
1:02:31
you know, I mean again, make no small plans.
1:02:33
It was great he he wrote about. Right about the car that he
1:02:36
built and more. He more so focused on the actual
1:02:40
VW scene in the 80s in Southern California.
1:02:43
Yeah, it was great. And yeah, he's written for the
1:02:46
autopian. Like over the years, he'll write
1:02:49
about when there's when there's something for him to write
1:02:51
about. So yeah, it's really fun.
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What a talented bunch. Yeah, but I know these people,
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you know? I know.
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Well, he's because he knows Jason.
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He got to know Jason Torchinski in Pennsylvania because they
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both had Yugos I think there. You.
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Go see now you know. That's the ultimate callback.
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Yeah, we do. Yes.
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Yeah, they said they would come on.
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So it's. Another first rule of Yugo Club
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though you don't talk about Yugos.
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For very different reasons. Though than Fight Club right?
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Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah.
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Yes, you can tell I'm a, you can tell I'm not really a member of
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the Yugo club because I didn't know that.
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There we go. And that's a proud thing.
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You should be. You should be glad about that.
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I nearly bought 1 and I'm lucky I didn't but yeah.
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How long ago was that? When I was, yeah, when I was 17.
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OK, alright, well then you forget.
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Yeah, that was nearly my first car, but I was talked out a bit
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so it had like a body kit on it and wings and it was cheap and
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looked good, but. Just to keep it like, you know,
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stuck to the road at high speeds, right?
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Yeah, active downpours and it looks good and it was a car, but
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I didn't. Amazing.
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It's. Amazing.
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Are we at a show or? That's a show.
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That's a. Show.
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Yeah, Yeah. Can we a lot of ground to that.
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Yeah, next week's guests, this is hot off the press.
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We have Danica Patrick and Jensen Button, so don't forget
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to tune in for that one. Amazing.
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Both of them together. That is going to be a cool car,
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but I guess we've got the phrase that pays.
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And remember, always be driving. Thanks so much for joining us,
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and we'll see you next week. Until next week.