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- 0:02Welcome to Next Level Play Therapy.
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- 0:14We'll explore all things play therapy to elevate your work with children and adolescents using the therapeutic powers of play.
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- 0:47Welcome.
- 0:48Welcome to this week's episode of Next Level Play Therapy.
- 0:52We are back live today, so if you are watching the live stream, then welcome.
- 0:59Post your name in the comments, we'd love to hear where you're from, what population you work with, and are you working with sand tray in the Play Therapy Pro process?
- 1:11So today we're gonna be talking about one of the most important things for our play therapist to kind of master.
- 1:19And it's a process.
- 1:21I, I think it's one of those skills that you learn over time.
- 1:27It's kind of a hard one to master, I think, without a lot of good support.
- 1:33And that is that whole idea of recognizing themes and understanding what it, what is the theme that the child is using to communicate what's going on and what it is they're working through.
- 1:50So that is what we are talking about today.
- 1:54Themes are, are typically the way that I think about themes in play therapy is typically like what are the deeper social, emotional, or psychological issues that are going on for that child internally?
- 2:15How are they making meaning of the different things that they're experiencing in life?
- 2:23And typically these are the things that are causing them distress that are bringing them into therapy.
- 2:33And so we're gonna talk about that for specifically for that sand tray making process.
- 2:42So if you're joining live, feel free to post in the comments, questions.
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- 2:54I'd love to hear from you guys.
- 2:57If you're listening to the podcast, feel free to send me an email or connect with me on Instagram at Renewing Hearts Training, and let's get started for today.
- 3:13So, full disclosure, I have been struggling with a really bad case of laryngitis.
- 3:23If you haven't, I am like, I am sucking down some of these halls candies to try and coat my, my throat.
- 3:34You could probably hear it, um, in my voice.
- 3:37I'm a little scratchy today.
- 3:39I have, I have been struggling with my voice for, oh my gosh, we're going on three weeks, maybe even four.
- 3:46At this point.
- 3:47I'm getting tired.
- 3:48I sound a little bit like a squeaky mouse.
- 3:50I, I, I feel like I sound like a squeaky mini mouse.
- 3:56So it's gonna be a little bit shorter today than I normally do, just because I, I don't know how long my voice is gonna hold out, which I think probably for those of you listening to the podcast, it might sound a little funnier.
- 4:12Um, so if you're a play therapist or maybe you're using sand tray therapy with your clients, feel free to post in the comments.
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- 4:47All right, let's get started so we can, we can move along before my voice gives out.
- 4:55Today's topic is how do I, uh, in sand tray therapy, how do identify themes in a play therapy session?
- 5:04So, first, let's talk about what is a play therapy theme?
- 5:11So a play therapy theme is, the way that I think about that is that it's that psychological manifestation of what the child's experiences are and the meaning that they've made of those experiences.
- 5:32And so what they're doing is they're using that play process to figure it out, to explore it, to try to make sense of it, try to gain a sense of mastery, improve their self self-concept, feel better about themselves more positively.
- 5:52This is the internal work.
- 5:55And when we're talking about themes in play therapy, we're talking about looking for the clues that are helping us figure out what our clients are working on.
- 6:09And there's, um, in the, in the sand tray, there are, there are ways that we can do that as well.
- 6:16We're looking at their sand tray scene or their sand tray play, and we're looking for the clues.
- 6:24Excuse me, to get a better sense of what's going on with our clients.
- 6:29Here's the bottom line, though.
- 6:32We don't really need to know.
- 6:34Not really in order for the client to heal.
- 6:40So the client, theoretically the client is gonna use that play therapy process when we provide that free and protected space to work towards healing and wholeness.
- 6:52They don't need us to figure out their themes in order for them to heal.
- 6:58So especially if you're new and you're just beginning, don't get hung up on that.
- 7:05Don't get overwhelmed by that to the point that it shuts you down and you're not being effective.
- 7:11Let it go.
- 7:12Trust the process.
- 7:14Trust your play therapy model.
- 7:17Get support, get training.
- 7:19We're gonna talk a little bit more about that, that in the meantime, that's a, you're just gonna be fully present.
- 7:28Use your model the best way that you can if you're still learning one.
- 7:32The main thing I'm trying to say here is with my scratchy voice.
- 7:39Is that, don't get hung up if you're in the process of learning play therapy themes.
- 7:46Today I'm gonna talk about some tips that are gonna help you figure that out.
- 7:51I also don't think identifying themes is a, is a skill that we can master on our own.
- 8:00I know I couldn't, I needed lots of help.
- 8:03Especially in the beginning.
- 8:04And to be completely honest, I still sometimes need help with this.
- 8:09Um, and to me that's the benefit of being part of a play therapy community to help give you that support and, and taking some training to help you figure that out.
- 8:22Um, so for today.
- 8:26We're gonna, we're gonna talk about that a little bit.
- 8:28So we kind of talked about what is a play, uh, theme in play therapy in general.
- 8:35And now we're gonna talk a little bit about how do you identify themes in the sand tray.
- 8:44So with the T tray making process, we're really looking at the symbols.
- 8:50So the symbols are the sand tray miniatures.
- 8:53We're looking at how the symbols are used and how the child is using that sand tray making process for healing.
- 9:03So we're, so we're looking at what symbols are used.
- 9:09A k, a miniatures in the sand tray.
- 9:13We're looking at how they're used, where they're placed, what they're close to, what they're not close to, what was put in, what was taken out, what was moved around.
- 9:24That gives you a sense of your client's process of how their using it, like are they using it?
- 9:32And you can tell they are, because they're kind of deep in that process.
- 9:38Some clients do a, uh, especially the younger ones, will do like a narrating story from beginning to end.
- 9:47That's more of an active sand tray.
- 9:51And in that one you're looking at, um, the elements of the story as well as what they're doing in the sand tray.
- 10:01And so you may be looking at what symbols are used.
- 10:05Is it buried?
- 10:06Is it kind of half buried?
- 10:08Is it on top of something else?
- 10:11Is it, where is it placed in the sand tray you are looking at, um, what's said during the sand tray making process?
- 10:22Like what is said in the story, what's said, sometimes they like to explain it to you.
- 10:27Your clients like to explain it to you while they're creating it.
- 10:33Um, so you're looking at what they're saying.
- 10:37You are looking at proximity, what specific miniatures are near each other, which ones are separated, which ones are kind of far apart?
- 10:50You're also tracking those themes from session to session to session.
- 10:56So you're not, it's not just a one and done in the play therapy process.
- 11:03Um, it's also what it is being, um, what is, what is being communicated through that play therapy process from each session.
- 11:18You're looking at changes in the sand tray over time, meaning from session to session, looking for any shifts, even the subtle shifts that take place.
- 11:34And the other thing that you're Thinking about is the way that you're making sense of these themes is gonna be heavily influenced by your play therapy model.
- 11:47So there's some general themes across all play therapy models, and I'm gonna cover those next.
- 11:55Also, the way in which you make sense of those is gonna be influenced by your play therapy model.
- 12:03Because your play therapy model influences how you make sense of what the problem is and what's being communicated through the play or through the sand tray in the training and how you're making sense of that for for the overall kind of getting a sense of what it is your client is doing and how are they using the sand tray making process to make sense of things.
- 12:34So for example, if you're using, there's a difference between sand play and sand tray.
- 12:44So Sand Play Therapy has got its roots in the work of Dora Cough.
- 12:51Um.
- 12:52Using a Jungian psychoanalytic theory.
- 12:56So if you are talking about sand play, you're talking about using more of a Jungian and um, psychoanalytical model, which means it's gonna be non-directive and you're not gonna be doing any interpreting because that's, that's the model of the sand of sand play, and you're also gonna be thinking about the miniatures in terms of their symbolic representation.
- 13:28So sand play therapists do a lot of symbol work, really looking at archetypes and complexes around archetypes, cultural and historical.
- 13:46Um, meaning of symbols and how that fits into that psychoanalytic ian psychoanalytic model versus if you're using sand tray therapy.
- 14:01sand tray therapy is basically everything else.
- 14:06So play therapist tend not always some, some play therapists are trained in sand play and certified in sand play.
- 14:16Some of us, like myself, most of my training came from people who were more sand play oriented.
- 14:24Um, but you're, if you're saying, I still say I use sand tray 'cause that's not my only model.
- 14:33So sand tray therapy, it could be using the sand tray and you're a Gestalt Play therapist, or you're using the sand tray and maybe you're doing EMDR.
- 14:43So you're looking at it through an EMDR lens and making meaning of it.
- 14:49Or maybe you're a cognitive behavioral play therapist and you're looking at the what's used symbolically in the sand tray through your CBT lens.
- 15:03So CBT and I would, I would say EMDR are more likely to be a lot more directive.
- 15:15Adlerian play therapy and Gestalt play therapy.
- 15:20I would prob um, probably you're, it's sometimes you are leading, sometimes the client is leading depending on what's going on.
- 15:30But the way that you're making sense of what your client is working through is gonna be through those lens, through a Gestalt lens or through an Adlerian lens, or an e MDR lens.
- 15:44So how you're making sense of it.
- 15:48And how you're identifying what those themes are and making sense of those in terms of what your client is working on and where they are in terms of progress and play therapy is going to be, is gonna be influenced by those theoretical models.
- 16:05Now if you're using child-centered play therapy, you're just using child-centered play therapy in the sand tray and it's completely non-directive and you're not doing any, sorry, I am crunching on my halls.
- 16:21My halls throat lo, if you're hearing any crunchy sounds, um, then child-centered play therapy, you are gonna make sense of the themes based on that child-centered lens.
- 16:37And again, I wanna kind of highlight again, your focus is not really during the session itself.
- 16:47Your focus is not really on, oh, what theme is this going on and trying to analyze what's going on in this session?
- 16:57Your primary focus is really being fully present and attuned, congruent with empathic understanding, and, um, creating that sense of safety and following what your play therapy model says to do.
- 17:17Typically, play therapy themes, I figure those out later.
- 17:22Afterwards to kind of help me figure out where my client is in the change process.
- 17:29I typically do that when I'm writing my progress notes.
- 17:34Um, but also that's something we talk a lot about in Play Therapy Academy.
- 17:41We will look at what is, uh, what is going on in the sand tray.
- 17:48We'll, we'll kind of staff that with, uh, other Play Therapy Academy members.
- 17:54So I'll talk a little bit more about Play Therapy Academy as well as Play Therapy Elevation Circle.
- 18:01Um, to give you a sense of what those are, if you're looking for more support, those would be two options.
- 18:07That would be really good.
- 18:08I'll also talk to you about my training coming up for Sandtray therapy.
- 18:13It's coming up actually next week.
- 18:18So the, the best way really to learn how to identify themes is to have support and do training.
- 18:26Like I said, in Play Therapy Academy, when somebody is staffing a case and they're doing their case presentation, they might show us a photo of a sand tray scene and will use that to kind of, um, analyze what, what was going on in that sand tray scene using the collective wisdom of the Play Therapy Academy members.
- 18:55That's something also we can do in Elevation Circle as well, because we do monthly consultation meetings in Elevation Circle.
- 19:06So some of the general themes that are pretty common across all play therapy models, I would say are themes of power, a control that might be that kind of, that need to feel empowered, which is a, a need that we all have.
- 19:26Feeling empowered or maybe, not feeling like they have external control for safety.
- 19:33So maybe they're feeling like they want to gain control and some mastery over what's going on in their life.
- 19:44Keep in mind, some of these are just typical child development things, kids.
- 19:50Don't feel empowered most of the time in their life because grownups are in charge.
- 19:58Because we're in charge of making sure kids are okay.
- 20:02So sometimes grownups set limits the kids don't like, like I wanna stay up and play video games all night long, and parents are gonna set a limit.
- 20:11Like, Nope, you can't do that.
- 20:12It's not good for your health.
- 20:14So for a child, some of that is just normal, typical development.
- 20:19When we're looking at it in terms of themes in play therapy, we're kind of seeing how that measures up or how that not measures up, but how that relates to what's going on in their life.
- 20:34And we're using our case conceptualization, which is AKA, a fancy word for our working hypothesis or, how are we making sense of what is at the root of the problem that's going on?
- 20:48That's our case conceptualization.
- 20:50So we're also kind of lining up what goes on in the playroom with that case conceptualization and our play therapy model to make sense of what's going on.
- 21:03So if you're seeing themes of power and control, you're kind of looking at, and kind of figuring out, well, how does that line up with what's going on in their life as well?
- 21:17Also, themes of helplessness and hopelessness, maybe struggling with an ill inability to get their needs met or a belief in a better future.
- 21:28You may see signs of safety and danger.
- 21:31Maybe they're not experiencing a sense of safety in their life.
- 21:36They may have a lot of fear.
- 21:37So maybe kids with anxiety struggle with this a lot.
- 21:42You'll see this in, um, with children who've experienced traumatic, traumatic experiences.
- 21:50You may see some of these themes.
- 21:52You typically see those themes in there.
- 21:56Or maybe an overwhelming need to find ways to contain feelings that feel bigger than they can manage, and so they're kind of scary to them.
- 22:08The other is conflict.
- 22:09We see this a lot, so it's kind of internal conflict.
- 22:13Maybe external conflict, what's going on in their life, but what's also going on internally.
- 22:20And then I always, um, I always look at things through an attachment, a neuroscience lens.
- 22:28So I think we are also kind of looking at, 'cause we're also working with kids and we're looking at their attachment relationships.
- 22:36So we're looking at some themes of maybe what's going on in their attachment relationship.
- 22:43Are there any unmet attachment needs?
- 22:45Are they, do they have a need for attachment security?
- 22:49Sometimes you might see this when there's been a divorce, which is a, a disruption, uh, an attachment rupture for kids whose parents are separated or divorcing.
- 23:06The goal would be to kind of help the child and the family kind of navigate through that and reestablish that sense of safety and security within those attachment relationships.
- 23:17So you may, you may see that in there, you may, you may see it other ways as well.
- 23:22But those are generally kind of five themes that we see across the board, in most play therapy models.
- 23:33So that is it for today, and I can hear my voice is really starting to get give away.
- 23:40But let me go through and do a little bit of a recap.
- 23:44So essentially a theme in play therapy refers to the way that play therapists make sense of the play behaviors to better understand what's going on, and also using that to figure out where they are in the play therapy change process.
- 24:04In the sessions though, it's really important to be attuned, to be present, to create that sense of safety and security while you're following the application of your play therapy model.
- 24:18We can figure out what the play things are later.
- 24:22You're not necessarily doing that during the session.
- 24:26You might be doing a little bit to kind of help you figure out how are you tracking things.
- 24:32Essentially, though, um, we don't wanna get bogged down is basically what I'm trying to say.
- 24:38Don't get bogged down trying to figure out themes in the session.
- 24:44You can do that after the session.
- 24:46And you can also, I highly recommend getting support to do it it's a hard skill to learn on your own.
- 24:55So when we're thinking about how are we identifying these themes, we're looking at a variety of factors.
- 25:03We're looking at the symbols used, how are they used in the sand tray?
- 25:08We are looking at what's said during the sand tray, what's not said during the sand tray.
- 25:14We're looking at shifts over time from session to session.
- 25:20And, and making sense of what's going on that way.
- 25:25And then finally, just some general themes that we tend to see in the sand tray making process.
- 25:33I would say in play therapy in general, we'll see power and control themes, some mastery themes, helplessness, hopelessness, safety, danger, attachment.
- 25:46Those are generally ones that you kind of see across all play therapy models.
- 25:54So that is it for today.
- 25:56It's kind of a short one today.
- 25:57If you're interested in learning more about re and using the re therapy process in play therapy, I do have a two-day training coming up.
- 26:12It's an in-person only because I'm a really big fan, the best way to learn how to use, how to hold and process sand tray with children and clients is to actually get your hands in the sand and do it with a, with some of your like-minded colleagues.
- 26:35I keep these sand tray trainings really small because we're gonna be, we'll, we'll do some.
- 26:43I'll do some teaching, but we're also gonna be doing, um, some processing, meaning you're gonna be making sand trays, we're gonna be looking at sand trays.
- 26:53We're gonna be learning what to look for, how to hold that, how to make sense of it.
- 26:59And that's all gonna be in person.
- 27:02That'll be in St. George, Utah, if you're, if you're interested in that, then pop over to my website at rh play therapy training.com.
- 27:13That's renewing hearts play therapy training.com, and you can check out the trainings.
- 27:19I have another training coming up as well, so if you're interested, um, in some other trainings, you can look to see what I have going on on my website.
- 27:28Here's the thing, I am a firm believer that we cannot do this work alone.
- 27:36It is hard to be a play therapist because we are holding things day after day, session, after session, after session we're, we are holding those and that's hard.
- 27:50It's hard no matter where you are in your, your professional journey.
- 27:57I think we all need support.
- 28:00And so one of the things that I've done for my sand tray training coming up in April, as well as the one coming up in June, uh, working with trauma for those two trainings, coming up when you register, your registration includes 60 days of access for free, for new members to, um, to get access to support.
- 28:25So.
- 28:26In in Play Therapy Elevation Circle.
- 28:29We do monthly consultation calls.
- 28:31So if you need support to be able to figure out what's going on in your client's sand tray or maybe figure out what's going on in their play therapy session.
- 28:43Then you can staff that case during the monthly consultation call and get feedback from me.
- 28:50So you get, you get my almost 35 years experience plus all of the collective wisdom in Play Therapy Elevation Circle.
- 29:01We have a monthly book club.
- 29:02We are reading the book called Being a Brainwise Therapist, uh, which is basically using the interpersonal neurobiology.
- 29:13Um, theoretical lens that was developed by Daniel Siegel.
- 29:19We're looking, we're looking at, um, how to take that information and use it in the play therapy sessions when we do our monthly book club.
- 29:29And I'm very excited because coming up soon, I think in, um, I think it's either May or June, we're gonna be reading the chapter and discussing the chapter on, using sand play therapy with clients using that interpersonal neurobiology lens.
- 29:48So anyway, in Elevation Circle we have monthly book club as well.
- 29:53We have, um, group chat features so you can get support in there.
- 29:57We do mini trainings like last month in March, we did a little mini training in there on how do you identify play themes in general.
- 30:07So if you're interested.
- 30:10And maybe you're just interested in Elevation Circle, then hop over to my website and get on the wait list.
- 30:17If you take the training in April, the sand tray training, or the one in June, you get access for free for 60 days to try it out, but also to get some support so you can take what you learned at the training and get support applying that in Play Therapy Elevation Circle.
- 30:38So also if you're interested, maybe you are interested in, um, really honing your play therapy core competency skills.
- 30:49Maybe you're wanting to get consultation to work towards your play therapy, um, your registered play therapy re My mouth isn't working 'cause my voice is giving up Registered play therapist credential.
- 31:07Play Therapy Academy is where you would wanna do that.
- 31:10Not everybody in Play Therapy Academy is pursuing that RPT credential.
- 31:15Most people are in play Therapy Academy.
- 31:18We go a lot deeper.
- 31:20We do a deeper dive, we meet more often.
- 31:23Um, so it's heavily skilled based.
- 31:25So if you're really looking to develop your play therapy skills and you want a lot of support.
- 31:31Play Therapy Academy would be the one.
- 31:34So if you're interested, pop over to my website at rh play therapy training.com.
- 31:44Check out my upcoming trainings, check out the other things, and I will see you next week.
- 31:51Bye for now.
- 31:59Thank you for joining me on this episode of Next Level Play Therapy.
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