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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Football Recruiting Wins - Hoops Roll (Episode 680) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, welcome one and all. It is time for
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  Speaker 1: three guys before the game. We got some football, we
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  Speaker 1: got some basketball, and a whole lot more. So pull
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  Speaker 1: on in. It's episode number six hundred and eighty. The
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  Speaker 1: title of the program is WVU Football Recruiting Wins Wins
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  Speaker 1: less than a week after a big l to Texas Tech.
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  Speaker 1: No one's talking about the Red Raiders anymore. No, they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about what they won on signing day. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that. Plus Mountaineer hoops roll again. Interesting night at
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  Speaker 1: Hope Coliseum. It was if you hoped to see the
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  Speaker 1: head coach of cop and state coach in the game. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: you're out of luck.
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  Speaker 2: Probably an historic ejection.
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  Speaker 1: It was I'm gonna I'm gonna put it down. Prove
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  Speaker 1: me wrong that that was not the Quiket dejection in
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  Speaker 1: Hope colisseum history. We'll talk about that and more.
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  Speaker 3: Plus when your team is winning, why.
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  Speaker 1: By the way they were up might have been a
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's jump on in.
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  Speaker 3: We got to start with this. Well, you are rocking
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  Speaker 3: that letter sweater. Excuse me, you are rocking that That
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  Speaker 3: is that is retro throwback. It looks great on you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it's like you look like the the young grads
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  Speaker 3: and the old lads, brad like coming back. That's when
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  Speaker 3: it came back to the university and had a wonderful
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  Speaker 3: time nineteen forty and seven.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you, sweater, I tell you boys, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: gout there. We're gonnaet him, get theim, get them, that's
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do it. We're gonna to me to
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  Speaker 1: beat him. Now, let's go out there and represent.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good looks.
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  Speaker 2: They were these that honor recruiting. There a lot of
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  Speaker 2: new I did letter potential letter winners. Now I did
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  Speaker 2: you go, young men, here's what the sweater looks like
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  Speaker 2: when you get here, come here, have a nice first season.
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  Speaker 1: So when I was when I was debating, because this
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  Speaker 1: studio is always cold, when I was debating what to
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  Speaker 1: put on, I looked up and I had like four
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  Speaker 1: sweaters like they're in a little cubby, and this one
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  Speaker 1: was on the bottom. And I go, man, I have
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  Speaker 1: not worn that a lot. I said, I'm celebrating recruiting.
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  Speaker 2: You should be.
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  Speaker 1: I want to celebrate recruiting a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot of ways to celebrate recruiting wearing the letterman sweater.
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't Tony, the game you complete last night earned you
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  Speaker 3: a letter? Yeah, now you can support the letterman sweater.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Letter ten games into the basketball season, he's his letter.
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  Speaker 1: Next next time I come in here, when to wear
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  Speaker 1: raccoon skin coat? All right, So let's put this thing
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  Speaker 1: into perspective. Well, man, we got a lot of we
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of phlem a lot of nasal congesting.
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  Speaker 1: The microphone on and off really quick here so we
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  Speaker 1: don't cough in your ear. So a couple of historic
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  Speaker 1: events took place yesterday, one in football and one in basketball.
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  Speaker 1: And the basketball one we alluded to, and that was
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  Speaker 1: the copp And State coach got run at an unprecedented
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  Speaker 1: quickness that we've never seen before. As far as we
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  Speaker 1: can go, John Cheney got thrown out with a couple
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  Speaker 1: of minutes to go in the first half of a
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  Speaker 1: game here when West Virginia played Temple. I remember it
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  Speaker 1: was a Saturday afternoon game. Phil Bova rang him up,
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  Speaker 1: threw him out. Another guy was Tom Chapman, had a
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  Speaker 1: short lived career as head coach at Saint Bonaventure. I
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  Speaker 1: remember they had hired him from Gannon University in Erie, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: because he had won a ton of games. Never got
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  Speaker 1: it going at Saint Bonnie. He got run in the
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  Speaker 1: first half, but those were all with about three or
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  Speaker 1: four minutes to go in the half. The Larry Stewart
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  Speaker 1: ejection with his team up, I think they were up
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  Speaker 1: eleven to nine. He lost his noodle early in the game,
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  Speaker 1: and it was like, WHOA did that just happen? You were?
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  Speaker 2: You and Brad were just priceless on the call.
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  Speaker 1: How we we report? We let people decide?
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  Speaker 2: No, you were?
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  Speaker 1: You were?
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  Speaker 3: You both were stunned, and you were the fact that
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  Speaker 3: you were all amazed and Tony, you were almost in
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  Speaker 3: historic proportions. Now now here's what you said. No, now
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  Speaker 3: he's not leaving the courts.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't even he turned back a couple of turnbacks.
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  Speaker 2: Normally like once it once it fizzles out to start exiting,
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  Speaker 2: he turned back a couple of times. There was a
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  Speaker 2: moment where I thought, just gonna get real interesting because
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  Speaker 2: he not leaving.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I was waiting for the next things jew to folks,
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  Speaker 3: I was listening to you, not watching it when you'd say, now,
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  Speaker 3: now security has come in, but it didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I almost wonder if if Ross had a hand in that.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, not too much before that, Ross was really giving
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  Speaker 2: it to one of the officials. Yeah, like really giving
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  Speaker 2: it to the point I thought Ross was asking for one,
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  Speaker 2: and Ross didn't get technicals very often.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I think there was some messaging by the head
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  Speaker 2: coach last night to his team, kind of channeling it
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  Speaker 2: through the official. But I'm really yelling at you, guys,
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  Speaker 2: might yell at official because the official stared at Ross
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  Speaker 2: a long time, and Ross was very demonstrative and like
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  Speaker 2: given examples of what he thought was happening there, right,
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  Speaker 2: and the official was very patient. Well, that was the
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  Speaker 2: same official that ended up knocking out a couple others.
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  Speaker 2: So I just wonder if there was some residual effect
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  Speaker 2: that that guy's thinking. I mean man, we're six minutes
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  Speaker 2: and I'm getting it from both sides here. Someone's not
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  Speaker 2: sticking around like someone I'm not going to make it
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  Speaker 2: through here.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when you have the big rivalry showdown with
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  Speaker 3: coffin State, anything could happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, it was.
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  Speaker 1: That was out. And the other piece of history, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: is the recruiting class.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was anxiously looking forward to this because to this
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  Speaker 1: point you could see the names, but they you could
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  Speaker 1: just tell when you were talking to those guys that
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  Speaker 1: like if it were a card game, they had five
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  Speaker 1: cards inside inside their sleeve like they had they they
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  Speaker 1: just had him like right here, you know, and they
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  Speaker 1: just like those old Western movies like Little by Lil
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  Speaker 1: He's going to pull one out. I knew they had
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  Speaker 1: cards in their sleeves. And then they go out there
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  Speaker 1: and they get some kids that a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: didn't think that they were going to get. And it's
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  Speaker 1: raised the profile of this recruiting class. You know, top
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  Speaker 1: twenty five. I think ESPN's got them at thirty, at
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  Speaker 1: whatever number you want to equate to it. The fact
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  Speaker 1: is that they got four four stars.
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  Speaker 2: They've got a.
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  Speaker 1: Ton of new players, which opens up a whole nother
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  Speaker 1: conversation as to how much of a roster flip is
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  Speaker 1: going to go on because guess what now, Conversations start
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  Speaker 1: with the guys that are here and we're on last
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  Speaker 1: season's team, as to okay, this is where we think
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  Speaker 1: you are. It might be you might be better off
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  Speaker 1: going somewhere else. It might be, hey, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: take care of you because we want you, or it
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  Speaker 1: might be hoppy, we paid you X last year. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be X minus twenty thirty four forty
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  Speaker 1: fifty percent. If you want to stay, you can. If not,
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  Speaker 1: we understand that happens now that's a heck of a job.
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  Speaker 2: We won't go into this today, we'll get into it
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  Speaker 2: later on, but that's a heck of a job by
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people to pull this off. That is,
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot of moving parts going on. Think about that.
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  Speaker 2: Recruiting has always been a lot of moving parts, and
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  Speaker 2: now you add in salary offers, contracts, dealing with agents,
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  Speaker 2: people coming in. Last minute. I mean, you saw West Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned those flips at West Virginia got which people
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  Speaker 2: that follow recruiting and fans, we still love those last
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  Speaker 2: minute flips. Right, that's the drama. But you know what
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  Speaker 2: else is also happening, hopy other schools are trying to
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  Speaker 2: flip your guys. Yeah, so you're not the only It's
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  Speaker 2: not just West Virginia's out there by itself trying to
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  Speaker 2: flip people. So you're also trying to hold on to
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  Speaker 2: guys that you felt pretty good about. That's just a
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  Speaker 2: lot going on in that room, and that's a tremendous
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  Speaker 2: job top to bottom, from a general manager all the
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  Speaker 2: way down to all the other administrative folks that get
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  Speaker 2: involved in that and coaches. Obviously, it's a.
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  Speaker 1: Good point because think about this and the old days
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  Speaker 1: it was the football staff was doing this recruiting. So
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  Speaker 1: you enter into the whole new element of your general manager.
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  Speaker 1: And Chuck Lilee's the WVU general manager, and it comes
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  Speaker 1: on to him at the very end when there are
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  Speaker 1: guys that are still deciding which way to go, like
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  Speaker 1: he's having the conversation, has had conversations with these player
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  Speaker 1: representatives and these agents all along, so he literally is
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  Speaker 1: fielding calls up to the last minute, like what's the deal,
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  Speaker 1: what's the deal, what's the deal?
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  Speaker 2: And he explained the deal and go through the contract
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  Speaker 2: with me, and some of the players had lawyers on
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  Speaker 2: there saying, okay, I'm not just taking a coach's word
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  Speaker 2: for it here. Somebody walked me through this contract and
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  Speaker 2: Rich said it publicly. But they were working till every
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  Speaker 2: bit of two of three am the other night on
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  Speaker 2: the phone, like not just in the office, hop doing
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  Speaker 2: so on the phone, having conversations till mid morning. They're
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  Speaker 2: trying to get deals done.
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  Speaker 3: And Penn State got which which by the way, unique.
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  Speaker 3: They're going into the year without a head coach, just
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  Speaker 3: like see what happens sees somebody step up, got plucked
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  Speaker 3: like a deer carcass along I seventy nine.
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  Speaker 2: Now did they drop football?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they're still playing?
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  Speaker 2: Are they still what they are?
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  Speaker 1: They're still going there?
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  Speaker 2: They are.
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  Speaker 1: They're having a team next year.
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  Speaker 2: Now they got to hire a head coach.
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  Speaker 1: I think they do need to get that done.
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  Speaker 3: I think where they're waiting or waiting till after bowl season.
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  Speaker 2: I saw, I mean, well this is this is not
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  Speaker 2: they're bumbling around and everybody they're bumbling around helped West
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  Speaker 2: Virginia helped. Westsia rolled in and got two of their
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  Speaker 2: most high profile.
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  Speaker 3: Recruits Sig was a late that was one of the biggest.
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  Speaker 2: It was a late ad and Brown obviously was all
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  Speaker 2: the attention came with Brown earlier. That's two big boys
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  Speaker 2: that West Virginia just pulled out of there. And so
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  Speaker 2: it would be interesting to watch here in a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years and just see where those guys go, what
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  Speaker 2: their path looks like. That could obviously become even bigger
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  Speaker 2: than what it seems right now.
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  Speaker 3: And James Franklin's charter bus that went from State College
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  Speaker 3: to Blacksburg, they probably I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Think you can overstate the significance of the Penn State
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  Speaker 1: decision to fire James Franklin. It is breathtaking how it
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  Speaker 1: has spiraled and sent after tremors throughout the entire college
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  Speaker 1: football landscape, and why because they lost hope got them they.
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  Speaker 2: Lost hope and got emotional and got emotional about that,
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  Speaker 2: did a lot of reading of Twitter, it appears, and
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  Speaker 2: got emotional about that. And I'm not sure what their
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  Speaker 2: plan went. And listen, I'm obviously not close that situation,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm not going to say too much here, but
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  Speaker 2: what was the plan? What did you think was going
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  Speaker 2: to happen after? If you want to get rid of
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  Speaker 2: James Franklin. Okay, we can debate all we say this
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  Speaker 2: all the time. You can debate all the time whether
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  Speaker 2: you should fire the coach or not. But what was
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  Speaker 2: your plan after that? It appears there wasn't much of one.
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  Speaker 2: And now they're in full on scramble mode. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: now you're just a quarterback running around back there with
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  Speaker 2: the ball hanging out there hoping you don't fumble, and
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  Speaker 2: today have fumbled twice and picked it back up and
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  Speaker 2: you're still running. They are a mess.
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  Speaker 3: And the timing of the Franklin firing meant everybody swooped in,
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  Speaker 3: had every people had three months to go after those guys, well,
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  Speaker 3: think about it, to decimate the recruiting class.
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  Speaker 1: AT's see Kevin Brown are now mountaineers because of that decision.
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  Speaker 1: Just think about the significance of that. And this could
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  Speaker 1: go down as one of the all time great yaks
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  Speaker 1: as far as athletic administration goes by their decision to
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  Speaker 1: make the move without having the other bird in the hand.
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  Speaker 1: And now this, how's this thing going to play out?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I think, and again, this is what you do
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  Speaker 2: on recruiting day. You project forward and we'll see how
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  Speaker 2: this ages what I'm about to say. But it has
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  Speaker 2: the potential they're bungling around on the search, has the
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  Speaker 2: potential to really change the fortunes of two programs. Like
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what Virginia Tech does, excuse me with Franklin
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  Speaker 2: and what they get. We'll see what Brown and Seeg
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  Speaker 2: look like as mountaineers. But that could really change the
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  Speaker 2: face of two programs based on their inability to get
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  Speaker 2: a coach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got a scouting report on Sieg. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so he's from Fort Cherry High School. Well that's all
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  Speaker 1: my wife's family is all Fort Cherry people.
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  Speaker 3: So Joe Comedie probably was involved in process.
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  Speaker 1: My sister in law he can really play, Sister.
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  Speaker 2: Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Sister law I said he can really now. She she
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  Speaker 1: also she had Tyler Pelkoe too when he was at
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  Speaker 1: West Delleghany. Okay, a pray. She told me to Tyler
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  Speaker 1: pelco he can really play. So she's got the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: The endorsement.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was a national story.
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  Speaker 1: That was a breathtaking That was a breathtaking decision in
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  Speaker 1: the recruiting world because these guys all line up and
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  Speaker 1: they think this is what they have and he went,
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  Speaker 1: like psych West Virginia, They went, those are good to have.
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  Speaker 2: You needed to have those.
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  Speaker 1: You needed to make ripples in this recruiting class for
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia. Obviously, after how the season went and then
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  Speaker 1: how Saturday went, you needed to make a name mark
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  Speaker 1: for yourself. And they did.
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  Speaker 3: And Tony, I don't know, I don't know what the
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  Speaker 3: dollars are, but you would imagine I would think that
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  Speaker 3: w VU football holding back on somewhere between four and
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  Speaker 3: six million dollars in rev share money. This talent this
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  Speaker 3: fiscal year played a big part in the ability to
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  Speaker 3: land some of these guys.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely did. They didn't run out of money, right, Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: they had extra and they went and they went and
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  Speaker 1: used it. So now you got to do it all
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the fellows over there would certainly take
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  Speaker 2: any calls from companies wanting to do nil deals as well.
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  Speaker 2: This would be a good time if you're interested and
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  Speaker 2: have a business and would like to get involved, because
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  Speaker 2: in all seriousness, what that does is the more you
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  Speaker 2: can get in nil dollars offset some of that rev
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  Speaker 2: share and listen, the shopping's not done. This was just
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  Speaker 2: the first wave of shopping. The all important transfer portal
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  Speaker 2: is coming here soon, and you're going to be back
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  Speaker 2: to market there as well. You know, Brad, it is
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  Speaker 2: and you will be back to market.
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  Speaker 3: I think though, this recruiting class gives you, gives you
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  Speaker 3: a sense that they're trying to do they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: build a base, because remember last year they came in late.
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  Speaker 3: So now what they get for how many guys?
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  Speaker 2: Forty?
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  Speaker 3: So I'll get more into that Nobby's observations.
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  Speaker 1: But we still have and he gotten obvious observations yet
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: kind of jumped ahead, But that's okay if you're in
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: the Charleston area. Two. Yeah, gosh, it's tomorrow already, Friday,
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  Speaker 1: December the fifth. We are at the Charleston Marriott. Things
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  Speaker 1: starting nights. I had just heard about that earlier this year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm stunned. Fifty years I've never heard it pronounced the
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: way you're about to heard this Marriott. Mary Ott says,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: don't pronounce it Marryott. They say it's Myriad marriat Marriott.
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  Speaker 1: That's screw.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do it anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow night we're at the We're at the Charleston Marriott, Marriott,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to do a an event with Rich Rodriguez,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: among others. It's the football Signing Day celebration. It's a
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: big dinner and we're gonna watch video and Rich is
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: going to talk about these student athletes that are coming
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: to West Virginia. There are a limited number of tickets
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: now available. If you go to w u v U
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: sports dot com slash FB Signing Day, wv sports dot
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: com slash FB Signing Day, you can get in there
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: and there are individual tickets you can buy. You can
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: buy a table, whatever it might be, but there are
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: a limited number of tickets. They're also we'll talk about
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: this more, but there's live auction. It's got a Mark
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Boulger you said, helmet, a Coal Rush helmet. I mar
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the market signed.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Have one of those sweet throwback the old gold and blue.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: There's the helmet right there.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Tell me, oh yeah, that's it. So that's the one
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Mark signed that is now open for a live Go
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to the website and there's one of those throwback jerseys
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that they're going to. You can auction. Live auctions going
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: on right now and all the money goes to Championship
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Resource Fun.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Through Golden Blue Enterprises. This was going to be a
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: fun event. Anyway, this will be this is I think
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: it's built as a celebration. This will be a true celebration.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: A high step, I think risking a high step. He's
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: going to be like that Ohio State man guy that
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: comes in there. I think that's how he's going to
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: enter the room, Like, can you know I'd be up
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: there saying please welcome head coach Rich Rodriguez.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: He's going to come in with the All right, let's
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: do this, wouldn't you? Oh yeah, absolute, Let's clarify. We
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: got Hoppy's obvious observations. We need Jake, if you would,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: we got more graphics. Last time on the show, Hopy
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: got upset because someone made an AI image of him
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: and he had them in a military outfit and it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: had a bunch of medals on there, and even though
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: it was a AI generated thing, Hoppy did not want
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: it to appear that he had served in the military.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: So we brought it up.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: It was valid.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: They fixed it. So they just meed you that's better.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: That's better.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another one. There's another one with the white
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: hat had different hat, different hat, but it doesn't he
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: like the white hat with that the white hat does
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: look good. And also go ahead steering one of those
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: boats that Lou Wendell. There's another one that's pretty good too.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Reporter's notebook lip bomb and uh, you know it was
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: a good good look.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: That's not bad.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And then this one here just a big big can
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: of save for his lips. So we're not sure what
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do with all these images. But I do
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: know this, that's right.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: But that things we already knew. You know what it is?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Bomb ready? He yet.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Captain Kerchieval, Yeah, is ladies and gentlemen.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I got a lot too. I'll try to get through this.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: On recruiting, remember that Rich did not get to do
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: high school recruiting last year. He was Higher Brad two
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: weeks after the recruiting period. So this is his first
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: signing class. And we've talked about this. I won't go
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: into great detail, but a quick scan shows it looks
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: like it was a pretty good class. I told the
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Matt Siggs story is a big story. I mean, he
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: was thought he was going to be Pinn State, and
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Pitt and Virginia Tech, Indiana, Notre Dame all wanted him,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: and Sigg said he wants to play both sides.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Of the ball.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure when you're recruiting can say you can
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: play both sides, you can pub do you want to pun?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: You can punt.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Rinch has been foreshadowing that for about seven months talking
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: about more players that play both sides, so plays right
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: into that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got guys from all over all over
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: the country brand. You know, it used to be don Neelnson.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going to draw a circle around southwestern Pennsylvan eastern Oho.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Now it's just everywhere.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same same money all over the country, work.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Currency exactly.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe even now some euro dollars or some Australian money.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: There is another Australian punter. Thank god, I mean that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: has worked out really. Thank god you apologized that one
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: day in all way, because that is that has really
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: reopened that pipeline that was absolutely almost cemented about the dude.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: He's two hundred and thirty three pounds, which mean's going
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to be a man. I kind of like that a lot.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Well, Rich wants guys that can play both sides, so
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: this is perfect. He can punt or line up as
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the full back in short.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Yard is situactly and I'm glad to see that Rich
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Rod met the international requirement to now exist that you
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: have an Australian punter.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got that. Well, the straws still come
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: around since there's an Australian hunter A one good question. Well,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: we're not going to see them as much. I don't
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: think it's out of the realm possibility. They'll pop in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: once a year.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: That would be nice.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: All of his girlfriend doesn't she live up in pa there, right,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: so they've got to come.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Back around for that, Tony, I'm waiting for your call.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: When Chris Ridley fake punts and breaks the first tackle.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Now Reriddlely at sixty three two thirty three breaks hock,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I'll put the hammer down.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Greg Hunter has done a lot of research on this
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: and he reports and this is important to keep in
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: mind because everybody's except everybody had a great recruiting day,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: right except Penn State. That typically about forty five percent
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: of your recruits pan out, Okay, about forty five percent.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: If you get up around sixty percent, you've absolutely nailed it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: So we need to keep that in mind. Again, this
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I thought i'd do this, and those numbers might be high.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Now strike like those Yes, that's historical. Yes, and I
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: think we're in a different age here that number might
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: be high.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Anyway, go ahead, Okay, So I went back to rich
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Rod's first reading class in Western how about this just
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: to see because not everybody pans out and you look
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: there and you go, I don't remember half of these guys,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: which is a good reason. But his first recruiting class
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: because remember he came in actually November was when he
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: was hired because it was you know, heir apparent and
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: then back then you didn't have or the early didn't
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: have early signings, so it was not until February, right,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: absolutely right, So his first class, Jamal Adie, it worked,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: That worked, tied in Josh Bailey, Mark Well Henderson had
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: a solid sophomore year, kind of tailed off. This stands
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: out offensive lineman Travis Garrett from Grafton and Garon Justice
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: from Gilbert.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Became a really good play really good players.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Nucleus coach now nucleus of that two thousand and five team.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: On the offensive line, Anthony Mims.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Was offensive back. I'd take a few of him. Yeah.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Defensive end Ernest Hunter played forty.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Ernie the Big Cat Hunter played forty. Saved Michael Forgal's life.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: That time.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Great job defusing a locker room situation.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Down yea, yeah, And that was the that recruiting class.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: And again back then it was god stayed four to
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: five years. So that was the nucleus of that two
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: thousand and five team that went eleven to' one. Of course,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: they also had Pat White and Steve's late.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And later on.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: But point being is that there will be some guys
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: in this class that you never hear about again, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: some guys I think that in a couple of years
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: you'll go, wow, these are institutional players, right, I mean,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: some will.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Be here for a while.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, So that the basketball game last night, you guys
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: were highly entertaining in the first half. The second half
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: of our job.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why we were not trying
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to be highly entertaining.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: And it's a game.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: We're just reporting what's happening.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: As you said, Tony, the first half of the first
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: half was just quote unquote kind of weird. Yeah, no, flow,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I hope that maybe and Tony or Foragel got Larry
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Stewart a sandwich or some light reading.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Now you know what Michael Fregil's does for a while,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Michael Fregil does take the opposing head coach
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: for media after the game. I can't wait to ask
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: him what that situation was like, Like did he did
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: he stay in the locker room the whole time? Did
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: he go on to his bus he head down, go
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to Chick fil A down Patterson Drive or something.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: You said he was going to do Christmas show?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: How mean? He could have gone over there University town
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Center and picked up a couple of items, go to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Sam's Club, picked up a couple of tires. I had
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: two hours, five hundred punds of strawberries and a big
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: car tire something like that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: But the first half, the first half was just was
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: just peculiar, and Brad peculiar. And I wonder, I don't
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: want to read too much into this, but you guys
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: mentioned this too. And when anor Huffness three or four
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: on free throws, Brad is sixty seven free throw in
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the in this league, in tight games, at some point,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: that's going to bite you right until you get better.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Oh maybe nothing. Yes, they're not going to get I
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying right now.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I just ever hold on. This might be a sixty
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: seven percent free throw shooting team, it might end up better.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody went nuts about rebounding, and it was the number
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: one rebounding team in the country going into the last
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: night's game. So I'm gonna just chill out, all right,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I'm game to game business.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I understand. I'm just saying, maybe somebody will agree with
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: me at this point. If you're looking for points of concern, Tony.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a concern, all right.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Good to have the game in Charleston, excellent opportunity to
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: showcase the Mountaineers, and you guys are having the event
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: down there.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So that ought to be great.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I'll leave it to you, Brad to talk about the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Demon Deacons or coming this is. I'm looking for your
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: explanation when you get into it. Coming off getting whacked
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: by eighteen by Oklahoma.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: At home, but earlier this season they beat.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Texas Tech by one and beat Michigan by one. So
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I'll look forward to your explanation as to what the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: story business change.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I will know.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I will note that the big guard leading them scoring
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: twenty points a game has a great basketball name, Juke.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Juke is a good basketball to me the other day, and.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I think I speak for all of us when I
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: say that we're thrilled that Neil Brown got the North
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Texas job, absolutely replacing Eric Morris. Now I do have
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: in my hands, hold this up.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: He's got a prop.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Tuesday in this kind of coincided with Neil Brown's hiring.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: WVU and Neil Brown entered into a separation agreement. Remember
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: when Neil Brown was fired, WVU still owed him. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: think it was seventy five percent of his contracts remaining
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: contract which was three years I believe.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Three or four whatever it was.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Chase our microphone on off switch. Thank you, I'm sorry.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: They owed him about about ten million dollars in the
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: separation agreement, which had an offset that he was to
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: be paid. Whatever he was going to get paid in
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: another job would offset what he was due. So it
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: was originally about ten million dollars. They'd already paid him
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: a chunk of that. It was down to about six
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: point six million. Brown and ren Baker signed these papers
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: this week that agreed on a four point four million
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: dollars settlement. So WVU will play will pay Neil Brown
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: four point four million dollars. I think it's three and
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: then one point four is how that's done. And the
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: belief is, as I understand it, that this is better
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: for both parties because for WVU it's a little bit
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: less than if Neil Brown didn't have a job and
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: they had to pay him the full.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Amount two point two million dollar difference is that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Where it is two point So it's better for WVU,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and it's better for Neil Brown because North Texas could
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: have low balled him. I don't know, alwa, he's gonna
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: get paid, but the Gator low balled him saying, well,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: WV is gonna pay you three million dollars, We're not
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: gonna pay a bunch of money. So it helped him
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: in negotiating his contract with North Texas and it just
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: kind of settles everything. So wv's gonna pay him four
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: point four million dollars. They've signed off on the agreement.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And and as bad Brad as bad a lot of
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: separations can go, this one actually stands out as being
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: relatively healthy because the very person that had to fire
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Neil Brown, in all likelihood had influence in Neil Brown
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: getting the next job. Because Rin came from North Texas
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and the guy he was his number two.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: There is very closely.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: So it's a good life lesson if you can avoid
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: blowing up the bridge. Avoid blowing up the bridge exactly right,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: because you never know where. You've said this many times,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you never know where your next job is going to
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: come from, right, And that's an example of that. And
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I do think this is the situation both parties ended
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: up with a good fit. I think that's a program
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: that is won under multiple coaches. I think that's the
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: rare case this way in recruiting and coaching. Harsher says
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: all the time, for such important, high profile jobs, neither
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: party has enough time to do their due diligence to
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: where you would ultimately feel comfortable. You've got to make
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: some decisions fast and get moving. I think this was
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: one of the rare situations where both parties could get
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: significant information. Using Ren as the middle piece. There, Jared
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Moseley can find out exactly what he's getting, and Neil
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Brown from a guy that he trusts and Wren and
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: vice versa. Neil can get a good sense of what's
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the commitment to winning, what are my resources like, what's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the area like, and he can get some actually good
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: intel that you may not normally be able to get
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: so I think this is one of those rare win
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: wins in college football. I agree with you.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: And Neil Brown did not get fired because he can't coach.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: The phrase it kind of gets tossed around is just
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: ran out of time, ran out of time. And if
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: ren Baker did not believe that Neil Brown was a
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: solid head coach, Neil Brown would not have gotten the
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: North Texas to I mean, if rerenn thought that Neil
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: was allows he coach, he would have given his boy
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: a high sign like, hey man, don't go there. So again,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: as bad as these things are, sometimes this thing sort
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: of okay, this has worked out okay for everybody.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. I'll be really interested to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: watch as Neil goes in there builds his staff and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: that takes away the invaluable lessons that he learned here
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and how he applies those. And wish him the absolute
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: very best.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: And to Texas he was at Texas this year.
• 29:21
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about coppin State game for a little bit
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: last night. I think that that was a good pickup
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: by you, Hoppy when he described the game as weird
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: in the first half, it was weird. That's a forty
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: point win, Guys. You don't have many forty point wins
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: and you walk out going, well, was that good? Is
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: that good? I mean it won by forty you put
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: up point that's absolutely random.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Most of the times you win by forty went when
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you walk out of it and go, man, we just
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  Speaker 1: absolutely freaking throw.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: That didn't have that it was it was and Ross
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: said it afterwards. There just wasn't a lot of flow
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: in that game. It was choppy, but some things that
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: stood out. I think that is actually a good sign
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: when you when you handle a team like you're supposed to.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: That's a comp and State team that has been struggling
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: this year. They've been on the road a lot. So
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you did what you were supposed to do, even though
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: in the first half at times it didn't get there
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: as quickly as you wanted. But some overall things to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: look at. How about a second half where you outscored
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: him fifty one seventeen. Yeah, here's what really jumped no
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: turnovers offensively in the second halfcuse me, no turnovers, and
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: that's important moving forward when we get into wake Forest.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: That was one of Oklahoma's key to success the other night,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma win. Stop me if you've heard this before. Very patient,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: offensively made wake Forest have to guard for a long
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: time and didn't turn it over much and ended up
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: in a big win. That's going to be a key.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: If you want an early key to the game, that's
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: going to be it. Moving into the wake Force game,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: which we'll get to here in just a minute. Twelve
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: nothing points off turnover advantage in the second half, so
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you could know Western came out was a little bit sluggish,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: probably not the energy you wanted to start the game.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That got turned around in the second half. You came
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to play one thing that I did think help that
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: was now with this full compliment of players, and you
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: saw Ross Hodge Tony do it quickly. There were early
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: substitutions in that game, and it was an opportunity to say,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: all right, you're not ready to go, you sit, you
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: come in and try. And Ross was really trying to
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: mix with the lineups in there to find some energy
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: out of that team. I got a question.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: When Chance More gets the ball, is it like you
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: see sometimes in a video or TV where everything else
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: disappears and he just sees the basket. He's just like,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I'm going this, this is where I'm going.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Indecisive is not a word you would to describe him. No,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: he gets it and goes to the rack. I love it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: And that's what we thought. That's in his value to
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: this team right now, is he's the best on this
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: team at doing that. I mean he when he gets it,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: he goes. It's almost like when he gets it, he thinks,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: why it takes a long to get me the ball.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm going right for the basket right now. I don't
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: care what else is going on. I really like it.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And he really elevates quickly, doesn't he He's a he's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: a quick jumper and a quick second jumper. There you go,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: quick second jumper and ban.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: What can you do when you take it to the
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: hoop but they cut you off?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Go through them?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Oh well you can you can do that or he does,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: or go over him, or kick it back out. And
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that's what was happening last night. There was a ton
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of driving kick opportunities and thought Westerdin did a great
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: job with that had a sixty seven percent assist ratio,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: so they assisted on sixty seven percent of made baskets,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: which was a season high, and you saw season high
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and eleven made threes a season high and three point attempts.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: The other thing a couple other guys let's point out
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: that jumped out Jackson Fields again and second game back
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: was very good and I think continues to show how
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: versatile he can be. Nine points again, four rebounds, but
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: how about this a team high four assists in that game.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: So it's critical to keep getting him in this game.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It's going to be important that he's played a couple
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: games as you get ready to play against Wake. That
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: comes in with that's the thing that they'll jump out
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: about Wake. They are long Would you use to describe
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: him the other night when you texted me rangy. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: they are a long rangey athletic team. So that'll be
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: a heck of a test coming up. One other note,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about Trace and Eaglestaff again because
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you started to see him get heated up from three
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: last night he knocked down three to three pointers, finishes
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: in double figures again with eleven points and almost near
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: double double again for him with another eight rebounds. He's
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: been outstanding on the glass and defensively, so Trason continues
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: to play Honor Huff five made threes last night, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Tony you said it in the postgame it again to
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: add to the weirdness of the night. If if a
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: guy makes five threes in a game, that is normally
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the headline coming out of the game. I just talked
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: about seven things before I got to Honor Huff making
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: five threes. It's like, oh, hey, Honor had a good game,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: made five threes. He We've just become so adept in
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: a short amount of time of how quickly he can
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: shoot and how he can pile up these threes. The
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: NCAA shockingly has an updated their website as of this
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: morning for last night's game darning. But he'll be somewhere
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: in the top ten now and made threes on the season.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: But that's that's a good sign. That's a good sign
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: that you're not talking about those made threes until you
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: talk about four other guys.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but five in a game that I mean, that's
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: a massive game. Yes, Whereas like Honor had five threes, didn't.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I shows you're right, You're right. We just because we
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: know he shoots the three, because we know he led
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the nation last year in three pointers, we just take
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it for granted that he's just gonna make them all
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: of the time. It's still hard to do, right, and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: but he but he has had two or more three
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: pointers in every game. He had the uh, what do
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: we have? Eight earlier this season nine and eight out
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: of and then he had the five like like, you're
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: exactly like five last last night was like, hey, he
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: made two layups.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Side note, yes, side note.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm still anxiously looking forward to and excited to have
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: that moment when Trason Eagle staff starts to smolder from
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: three and we know it's going to come in like
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: buckets and he's over here and Honor's over here, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: they're gonna go like, okay, which one's garden? And if
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: you put all of your pressure out here, then we're
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: going to attack down here. And if not, we're going
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to swing the ball. That's going to be a fun night,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: because one of these nights they're going to swing it there.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: He's gonna hit They're going to swing it over there.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: He's gonna hit and that's going to be like whoa.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: And so that's why I was going to go next
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: with this. And you could see this if you're watching
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: intently or listening, we were talking about this hoppy what
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: they do. So take right now when it's just Honor
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: and they put him on that wing and they've got
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: somebody down on the block and you're seeing single coverage
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: down that block because you can't you can't drop down
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: and even dig because he's so quick at getting the
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: shot offs. So I think what it's doing, if nothing else,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: is we get ready to enter Big twelve play. It's
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: forcing teams to have to decide how to play here.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Now it's incumbent on West Virginia's post players to finish
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: when you get one on one right, if you're right
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: now scouting West Virginia, you're gonna say, we are not
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: letting Honor Huff beat us. If Harlan or Blow or
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: DJ or Jackson fields down on the block can go
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: for eighteen or twenty, so be it. We are not
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: leaving our guy. That's also where you're starting to see
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: cutters to the basket in West Virginia's bigs are good passers,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: so as you move this thing forward. That's going to
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: be important to watch because I think you're gonna continue
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: to get teams that attach themselves to honor and you're
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: gonna get bigger, stronger, faster athletes on him. Right, So
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: you're gonna see some teams do what Clemson tried to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: do where they faceguarded for a while or they're extra
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: physical through the lane. So West Virginia's gonna have to
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: continue to evolve and adapt, which it'll do. Yeah, right,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: all right, you wanna talk a little Wake Forest. Sure,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: this is gonna be a fun one. I'm excited to
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: watch this. This is a big opportunity for West Virginia.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that crowd in Charleston does what it does
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of times when the Mountaineers are there. That
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: needs to be that's as Ken Palm calls it semi
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: home or semi away for Wake Forest neutral floor game,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: that's got to be a non neutral floor that's got
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to be one of those buildings that's on its ear
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: as West Virginia goes in there, because this is an
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: important game. You get a wake Forest team that's bordering
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: on top fifty right now in the Ken Palm rankings,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: and that matters hop as we get into the net
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: ranking and we move throughout the season. This is a
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: really interesting team in Wake Forest to figure out you
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: alluded to. They got pounded pretty good by Oklahoma the
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: other night, but that was an aberration from their other
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: two losses where they took Michigan to overtime, a top
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: five team, lost by one point, lost to Texas Tech,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the preseason pig twelve favorite by one point as well.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: This is a really athletic team, four double digit scores.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Juke Harris, who's having nearly twenty points a
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: game right now, playing extremely well. This will be a
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: challenge for West Virginia. I think on the offensive end,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do what you do, make them
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: guard for the entirety of that shot clock, and see
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: if you can get a team that likes to get
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: out and run, to get a little bit antsy and
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: not want to guard you for forty minutes of the
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: full shocklock. And I'll say that most of this season.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: But when you get teams like Wake that want to
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: get up and down, see if they want to dig
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: in and play defense. It's been a really good defense,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: though it's a top forty defense right now and adjust
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: a defensive efficiency. It's a team that's thirtieth nationally defensively
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: in turnover percentage. That's why I said those turnovers are
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: so important. West Virginia cannot give up those live ball
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: turnovers and let wake Forest get out and run first
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and foremost. Yes, you can ask a question there.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: No, just that's a really good analysis. And I'm just
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: thinking that West Virginia needs this, needs a win like this, right, yes, right,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I mean somebody that's needed this fifty and you go
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: in and you take care of business, you know, scratch
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: out a wine.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: As of right now, they've got wake Forest at fifty three.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: This is Ken Palm, and then Little Rock three oh eight,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Ohio State thirty seven. So you've got wake Forest and
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Ohio State. You've got a golden opportunity sitting in front
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of you. I mean, Clemson was ever so close. As
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: everyone knows. They're sitting at twenty two right now in
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Ken Palm, Xavier is at an eighty. West Virginia, if
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: you're wondering, is currently in at sixty seventy seven this morning,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and Ken Palm now has West Virginia with a fifty
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: four percent chance of winning the game. His computer has
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: it at seventy one sixty nine. West Virginia win.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bay if it's that high scoring and West Virginia
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: is still able to get the win because pace is
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: going to be pace or tempo or possessions. It's two
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: opposite end of the spectrums. This is a wake Forest
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: team that's in the eighty six percentile when it comes
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: to possessions per game. So again, they're going to want
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: to get up and down the floor. West Virginia does not.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: It wants to slow it down. This is also a
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: wake Forest team, given its size and its length and
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: athletic ability, gets on the offensive glass. Nearly twenty percent
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: of its points come on second chance points. That's in
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: the ninety seventh percentile nationally. You're getting a West Virginia
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: team that is still number one nationally in defensive rebounding percentage.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: So that's good on good. You want another key Hopy
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Watch how those follow up second chance points, Those second
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: shots are going for wake Forest. You limit those that
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: takes a big chunk of their offense away.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: What happened in the Oklahoma game, You know it's really weird.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I watched it did what happened? It just got away.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I mean Oklahoma's making Moe Wigee had a double down,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: their double double mohammed Wighee. Uh had a good game,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: and uh it just got away from Oklahoma made shots.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Like Brad said, they didn't turn it over, and Uh,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest will give you a shot from pretty much
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: anywhere on the floor. They'll let it fly. And that's
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: gonna be the interesting thing on Saturday night. Can West
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Virginia's defensive presence get them frustrated the way the Mountaineers
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: guard and another I think piece in the pregame hype
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and preparation for this game. Now, do you think there
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: may be a chance that Ross Hodge will have or
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: had phone calls with Grant McCaslin, the head coach at
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech. I mean they are boys, right, coach together
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Tech's already played this wake Forest team. You can get
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and tee that they'll sit down and go like, Okay,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: here's the deal. This is what we have, this is
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: what they are, this is what they do. That will
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: be helpful.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: He's certainly watched the game, although it was different because
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: that was up and down. That one was in the eighties.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, that score was in the eighties.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: This one, If it's in the eighties, that doesn't benefit
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: West Virginia. Hop The other thing, it so often happens
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: in basketball. You know what Wake Forest did not do
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: against Oklahoma? Didn't make shots? Oh, I say, didn't make
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: shots to make shots. Three percent of their shots came
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: from three, and they made like twenty seven percent of those,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: or yeah, twenty seven percent. Sometimes didn't make three. So
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: that's gonna when you take a lot of threes, that
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: leads to a lot of variants. You can either be
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: really good or if you're missing, it gets ugly and
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: the game can get away, then you slow it down.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: They weren't getting on the offensive glass as much as
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: they normally do. Oklahoma did a good job of holding
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: them to one shot, no follow up shot, and then
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: suddenly that lead balloons.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: There.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: You're saying, sometimes teams make shots, and sometimes teams don't.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Make miss shot to make miss business.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Hop.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so if you're going to take fifty four
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: percent of your shots from three and don't make fra
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: any that's probably not going to go well. So it'd
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: be nice if that worked for the Charleston Coliseum something
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: to go down there. Visiting teams have backdrop issues there,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: it might have troubleshooting.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: It literally was coming out of my mouth. You know
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: what I was going to say. There are two things
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: that are just known in sports. One, a football team
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: improves its most from its first game to a second game.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And it's difficult to shoot inside the Charleston cause a
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: lot of visual problems. I mean a lot of backdrop.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just unbelievable.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: So that's great. If there's a lot of misshots going up,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Western need to get the rebound right, have a lot
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: of noise.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: What's the over under on how many minutes into the
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: game before you mentioned that, Tony, Well, three and a
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: half a half minutes.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I normally don't mention it, but I laughed because people
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: always make that like it's out to be like, there's
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: no difference in the Charleston Coliseum than any other civic
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: arena that you're playing. It's the same thing, but people
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: make it out like kind of like the Texas Tech
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: football game when it was too windy for West Virginia,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: like loub win one of the yeah, the Lubbock win,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: didn't it didn't impact Texas Tech that they had only
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: impacted West Virginia time.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: There's every winded.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: So now I don't buy into the fact that no
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: crown on the field exactly, there's no crown, no crown.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: On the field. Well that I'll just say again, I
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: hope that building's buildings hopping as we've as we've seen it, listen,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: it was great for the TVT The one thing about that,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be a filled building to be
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: really loud in there. But you hope this is a
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: good crowd, great seating, new seats there in the Charleston Coliseum.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: So it'll be nice to see West Virginia back playing
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: a game in Charleston. It's been a long time. That's
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: another one of those. Much like the lighting of Woodburn,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize it had been that long. I hadn't
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: realized it had been that long since you played in
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: the Charleston lighting, didn't. That's a big moment.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: That's one of that.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: That's one of the great tradition I lovel when that
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: buildings led up.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I was up early this morning, I had to do
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: something and I was coming down Stuart I think Stuart Street,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: one of them up by your house. I was coming
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: down that way and then in the distance I saw
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: the Woodburn one. Yeah it's awesome, it is beautiful.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: It looks great.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: But did you realize it had been whatever it's been
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: fourteen years since that thing's been lit up?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: No? Yeah, we talked to the president last night. What
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: president sends his regards to you?
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: By the way, I know I'm jumping all over here,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: but speaking of Woodburn led me into the president there.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: How about you don't often see uh university presidence tweeting
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: out recruiting rankings, football, basketball.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Let's get it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: He's on it, He's he's everywhere. Yeah, he makes me
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: tired everywhere.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: So wait a minute, what I didn't know the I
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: didn't know the lighting had disappeared.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, see that's what I'm saying. You didn't know that,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: did you? No?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: So it's did Benson bring it back?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: It's back? He said, what do we do like that thing?
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: But what else he's bringing back? What these sweaters he's
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: going to bring might one one? When he fut the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: lights he's going to bring back. He probably wants one.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Now he'll probably see this way, get ahold of one
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: of those.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, So you didn't know it'd been that long. I
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: did not. I didn't either. It's it's beautiful.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: So anyway, so the return of the Charleston Coliseum should
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: be a fun night on Saturday. Hope to see a
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: lot of people there.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, tickets still remained for that as well. Three
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: guys before the game brought those were pretty close. We're
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: gonna be when we're in Charleston to be pretty close
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: to Saint Albans and Lou Wendell Marine Sales happens to
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• 48:06
  Speaker 1: state of West Virginia. Family owned for four decades, they
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  Speaker 1: Marine Premium dealership in the state of West Virginia, the
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  Speaker 1: only one Honda Marine Premier dealership. And you know, Honda's
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• 48:34
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• 48:37
  Speaker 1: big life raft underneath your Christmas tree you want to
• 48:40
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  Speaker 3: Tony, I've told you I think not only is we
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  Speaker 3: love Tutors Biscuits, but also when the relatives are in
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  Speaker 3: it is a great getaway. They're staying overnight and you
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: visited with him in the following morning.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Tutors is a great getaway.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Is a great getaway because okay, like I need to
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: get out of the house a little while, and you
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: get on. I tell you what, I'm gonna go get.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Biscuits for everybody. Okay, I got you. So not only
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: are you a hero.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Because you've brought biscuits, but you got out of house
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: for about a.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Hour and a half. I like it. I like it.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: It was good.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: We had pump pancakes this weekend.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Ohne, we had all the we had everything.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: No Michael, Big Mike, Big Mike, Big Mike cared. He
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: took care of it. He brought pumpkin pancake makes. They
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: were really good.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: It's good.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I crushed them, yeah, because I'm not a pumpkin person,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: like you know, like a piece of punkin.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Now, how many did you eat?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I got quantity issues. If you haven't heard, I.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: Mean the whole thing about pumpkin, it's not really even pumpkin.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: It's it's spice. It's the same. It's there.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, I got up this morning. I woke
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: up this morning, I was still laying in bed, and
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I was like chastising myself for like like literally going
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: like what you doing? It was freaking Peter Peanu emin
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: M's last night. What what did you do? What did
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you do? We have a great gentleman, so nice, so nice.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: He brings us this economy size bag. They bring it
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: in on a crane and they set it down. Yeah,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: peanut eminems, you can't do that before they came mush
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: because it's.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Chocolate and you can chin it's peanuts, just to get
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: peanut dust in your throat. Then he's just over there
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: just shoveling it in.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Just so stupid.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something you've seen, You've seen
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: the last time you've seen the last time, I'm how
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: many did not?
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I have not?
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I have not, in fact seen the last time you're
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: that's it surprised me about you to a degree, Tony,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: be close, Brad. It wouldn't surprise me because he has
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: no control, Like Tony, you do like you do all
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: these disciplined things and then all of a sudden something
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: comes up, yeah and you just like, uh yeah, exactly.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: A total unfair characterization you. I'm the one sitting there
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: not eating them, telling him not to eat them, and
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: you're just going to attack Because I do a lot
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: of very disciplined things in my life too. I don't
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: know that you needed to cast that big net well
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: because everybody that was totally inappropriate.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Day you come in, you got a food, didn't take
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: issue like man, I got the bad food.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Why I just tell you about it as I share.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: He has worse, He has worse issues. Think it does.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he inhaled a whole bag of peanut
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: and before he went on the air. Who's got the issue?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Why did you do that?
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Tony?
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: You know the fricking idea? Why I did that? Like
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I just did you come on here and go no, no,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: because I want I take that.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: That's the thing with typical hymn too. It doesn't affect
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: him at all. It should It doesn't affect him at all. No,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: peanut dust didn't make a coffee. He just rolled right through.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Let us move on, move on.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it's totally unfounded.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: You're right, it was more about Tony than you, and
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't have attacked you, but.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I thought I saw vulnerability.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Over there A time for textual healing has brought to
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  Speaker 1: us by episode eight hundred dot com. Please text us
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: whenever you feel it three oh four four o four
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: forty eighty three. Our website now is fully functional for
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the Christmas season, and uh, we've got everything on there.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: We've got the popcorn, we've got the coffee, and I
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: want to go back from roasting. Yeah, yeah, there it
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: is and all that stuff is there. I would strongly
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: encourage you this. We're recording on the fourth of December,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm not just trying to push you to buy stuff,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: but I I'm saying, like to make a really good,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure that it's going to be there
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: before Christmas. The earlier you can purchase it, the better
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: because our elves are busy and we absolutely want to
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: give it and get it to you in advance. Also,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: let me show you. Last time out, we showed you
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: that piece of art, which is the marble plaster outline
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: of the state of West Virginia. Let me show you
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: some other images to kind of give you a look.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: These are representations of how that could look.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Like man Cave.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Could you see yourself there off to that far side
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: wall or above the fireplace in the main room kind
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: of noise and there like that's kind of all that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: could be homeless. Dave's cabin home really super neat and
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: then was there any more of that?
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: No, just those were for interior decorating design. Now on
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: the website, we came services.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: There, sure, So if you want to take a look
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: at those pictures and get in a better idea, there's
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: only seven of those available of those Mountaineer plaster black
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: marble plasters said marble marble dust. Yeah, that's made out
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: of marble. It's like a Venetian today show, it's a
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Venetian's you know that. You know what Venetian plasters happening?
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Peanut dust, you know, you know a Venetian pa I
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: ever heard that? No? Okay, so if you go overseas,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff is done in Venetian plaster. This
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: is black marble dust that makes that look, gives it
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that cold look. Take a look at the website. You
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: get better by the way. One thing for you get
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: into textual healing. Because we didn't get to it. There's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: been so much news of the last day. How about
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Chris Cleiman's out, Yeah, Kansas.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: State, said Drove him out.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: They drove him out, Yes, said did you see be
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: careful what you wish for?
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that you know, Brad, that's done me because
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, okay, they didn't have the year they were
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: six and six or whatever, and then people and at
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: some point it was after one of the losses and
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: he was just a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, and
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: he just said, you know what.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: We're all doing.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Bust. He literally said, I busted my frigging ass.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: Hest of my butt here, and this is what I'm
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: over it, done with it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he coaches again. I wonder if he
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: coaches again.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: I think if your case State you leave, I mean,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: you're your Case State. Fans are going but but.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: But but no, No, they're all obsessed with Colin Klein. Yeah,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: one of their time one of their all time great players.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like he might do great, he might
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: do great, But just keep this kids, just keep this
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: in mind, right, just keep this in mind. It can
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: get a lot worse before it gets better.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: How many times do we see programs where they go
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: through a couple of coaches does never takes a long Syracuse.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Syracuse is the great example. They get rid of PASCALONEI
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: because they got tired of Pascalone and it's twenty plus
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: years now that they've floundered.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: True. Yeah, well that was a I thought that was
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: a big announcement. Chris Clemens won a lot of games,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of world's champions.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I wonder. I wonder if he comes back.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: He's fifty seven or fifty eight. He got a lot
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: of juice in his tank. He also probably got a
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: lot of money, So it's whatever he wants to do.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: But I've always liked him. I think he is just
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: a football coach. Coach.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: The fact that he quit though, doesn't get it. He
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: doesn't get a buy on.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they'll take care of that.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: He's boys with the Gene Taylor with the ad with
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Iowa guys.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you see it more in bad I mean you've
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: seen it in basketball, now you see it in football.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Guy just saying you know what?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, Texter. I hear a lot of complaining about
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the NC double A calendar. Phil Snyder specifically. I remember
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: when we remember Bill Snyder at media Day when when
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: he gave you gave him your name, did I and
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: he said, hoppy?
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I don't remember that that's an interesting name.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we love him. It's the best. I hear a
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: lot of complaining about the NCUBA calendar, as specifically as
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: to how it applies to the portal window, But I ask,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: what exactly is the nc double A to do. These
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: guys are technically still students. They must be enrolled for
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: classes by the start of the spring semester in January
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: right to compete in spring. How can a player transfer
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: from school A to school B in February or even
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: late January. I agree, it's a tough spot for the poor,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: multi million dollar coaches who want more millions bless their
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: oppressed hearts, but that's the job. How can this be fixed?
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: It's a great point. The academic calendar is something I
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: know everybody he hauls about the academics. I get it,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: but that is one of the issues. That's part of
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: what the problem the way the calendar said. But again,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: we're not going to hash out the final answer, but
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: you just got to move the calendar up. I won't
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: be surprised these conference championships go away soon too, really.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and especially if like Miami doesn't play in
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: the ACCS and Duke is in there without maybe not
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: even a chance to get in the playoffs, and Miami,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: what are we doing? And I know what we're doing.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I know, I get it's the money, It's always the money.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: But you don't think another round of playoffs on home
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: campus sites is still going to bring in TV dollars. Yes,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: is the answer. So I think this short answer is
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: you're going to have to move the calendar up. Is
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: the only thing you can do. Move it into August,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Start a little bit earlier. Don't have the three week
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: gap between the end of the regular season and bowls beginning,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: which is getting shorter every year. Right, those games are
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: coming quicker and quicker. You got to compress the thing
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: and try and get it done. But that I don't
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: know how you can argue any longer that the calendar
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: makes sense. Does not make sense. So you got to
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: look at something. But the text is right. The academic
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: part of it is a is a.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Piece speaking of bowl season. You guys doing the balls
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: again this year we are.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: We're doing one hundred bowls.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I think one comes up here in about an hour.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: When is your first?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: It's like the sixteenth or something that gets so we
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: have money.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: You God, I stopped counting we have one day, there's
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: five five games. I don't know how many. I don't
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: know how many we're doing. Brad and I just show
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: up and just do games.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: He's right, we don't know how many games. It's like,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: is there a game today? Okay, fine, we'll beit there.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Just go open the mics.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: For those who don't know, we do. It's called Bowl
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Season Radio. And there are over twenty games. Right, guys
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: are doing over twenty games. And they're based but they're
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: produced in Morgantown and uh Cisco and Ebert over here
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: are the pregame halftime hosts. They get Rave reviews in
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: the big cities.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: They're huge.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: They're huge in Santa Monica.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I heard you, guys.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I was out there.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I heard you guys. San Francisco. Yeah, big market, one
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: hundred plus stations on them on the network. I mean,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: it's cool.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: We we love Brad and I love games, love Bowl games,
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: and love the fact that in some of them, in
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: some of these games, guys just guys emerge, guys that
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: you have not heard of it all year because they
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: don't play for Alabama or Georgia, Ohio state.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Hold on, don't say it. Watch this this is your boy.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: You're ready for this. Last year's star from the Bowl season. Yes,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: go played at bowling green hockey. What was his name,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Harold fannin junior. He's got a fully green tight end
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: down and he's in the end.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: He's in the NFL. But he had like sixteen catches
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: or something in that. But you have guys, right, Brad.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: It's fun, fun, it's great fun. Big advocates of more games.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: That's always my stand, right, you want to call them
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: bulls or actually I don't care what you call them.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Just give me more games.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Lydia and Dave checking in from a snow covered pharamount. Unfortunately,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: there wasn't much effort going on at the women's game.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I guess, as the senator says, you can always get better.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Hopefully that will be the case, because it was a
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: rough evening. They were there, remember, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: David and Lydia. Then she comes back next game from Fairmount.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: After completing our analysis of WVU efforting, this week to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: night's men's game displayed efforting at a much higher level
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: than money. There she was again last night twenty assists
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Eagle staff stepping up. I'm liking the trajectory trajectory of
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: this Ross Hodge team. So thanks to wearing those efforting shirts.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Good to see those guys.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: What happened with I wasn't hot? You don't see that
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: very often. I think Mark Kellock's only had three losses
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: at home as that coach Villan the rare, the rare game,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: they'll be back one off. It's not a one game season, Texter.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: There's always a West Virginia connection.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: This is a good one. This story is eight years old.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I was in Leeds, England on business and was out
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: at a local sports bar on an evening. I walked
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: up to the bartender to see what they had on tap.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: The younger man behind the bar, Charlie, recognized I wasn't
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: a local and asked where I was from. I told
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: him West Virginia, expecting to have to add that it
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't near Richmond. His response was, no way. I lived
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: in West Virginia in Weston. Of course, he had fallen
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: in love with a girl online and moved here to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: be with her. Unfortunately, he came to find out she
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: loved everyone else too.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: How that happens.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: He also commented that everyone in West Virginia seems to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: always wave and have power washers. It was probably in
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: his early to mid twenties at that time. Part of
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: me hopes the father doesn't recognize the story, so he
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what type of daughter he raised. The other
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: part does keep up the great work, Jason in Charleston.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: You know it was coming next to one of these stories,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: someone's going to say they walked into a pub in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: England and it was our guys, the friends of the Straws.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Though that's coming at some point. Yes, absolutely, TEXTA.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: As I was watching the Texas Tech game, my mind
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: went back to the Clemson game. We throttled them and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: they saw where they needed to be and began to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: get pretty good afterward. I believe that is our future too.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: So looking at a positive note after last Saturday's games.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: And did turn that around quickly. Yeah, there's a massive
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: adjustments within their operating procedures. Amazing.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Like a good quick
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: You think they may have bought ahead and.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Management. They the young men tied up their recruiting, worked harder,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: made fun calls later into the night.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: They were ahead of the game of nil. Perhaps Tony,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I know you are not one for over excitement of
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: recruits and commits. Good, but can you please break your
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: rule for our newly signed six three two hundred and
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: thirty three pounds Australian punter signed by Nate and the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Canal through.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: A type end. We do need to give a special
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: shout out to our friend friend of the program, the baron,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: the baron down there running pro kick Australia.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Hey, help me with this.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I was still waiting for him to send the plane.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we want to go down there and meet him.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: I went down a rabbit hole with with with him
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: and the baron or the punter, No, the punter so
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: and he was.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: A footballer and Australian rules.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: I looked at his stats, but the stats didn't make
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: any sense to me. Right, So, but he did play.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: And I think he's twenty one years old.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: He could be thirty one, who knows?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I think serious, I think he's more like closer to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: twenty three. Oh is it?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter anymore? Seriously, It's like these guys when
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: they came back from war. I mean, just like, how
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: old are you? Twenty ninth? Fine? Go ahead, can play BYU?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: He can kick it right, he can kick it left,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: he can squib it, he can kick it up whatever
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: he wants.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: And want, like spiralapeline going. We had good success in Australia. Yeah,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: of course every school for the one guy that didn't
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: show up. Oh yeah, by the way, that's what caused
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: his rant. Yes, but now we've rebounded, Yes we did.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: How about the young man student athlete that signed from
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: originally from Alaska that completes that completes the Adrian Morel
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Now he was Hawaii. Now we have both of the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: non contiguous states in the United States.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how about the young man Muya Yeah six seven,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: rather large individual part of the Republic of Congo, came
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Tumbo area, you know his former school. Really, that's what
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I said the other day. I think Jace Hurl might
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: want to just meander over to football practice just kind
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: of keep an eye on the young man. See if
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: it's a get him in there. Here's a high level
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: basketball recruit.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: You play a la lumir.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: That's your dude, it's a vision one. Yeah. I did
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: notice his size that picture of him next to Rich.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Rich is a big dude. Rich looked like he was
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: like a middle school guy, like saying hi, nice to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: meet my favorite players here kids.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Big well yeah six eight six eight, Texter Evan and Iowa.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: When was the last time our men's team was this athletic?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know. I have to go back to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: think about it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: No, we've had athletic teams. I don't know. We'll see. Uh,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: this is interesting. Brian and Ripley, Hey, Tony Bradd and
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Captain Obvious sitting in the back of our house watching
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: the Mountaineers as we do the entire season. All we
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: need as a couple of propane heaters, a smart TV,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and some liquid spirits. Let's go out ears. Look at
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: this guy set up. Yeah, where he's in his back
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: of his house and he's got a pergola or something
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: back there, and he's got his dog.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: The dog's not interested in the game at all.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: He is out. That's a great setup.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Look at that dog's bed.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: He just turns on the seat heaters.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: Did you get kicked out of the house?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's the way he wants to do it. Uh.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: JD from the Southern coal Fields. The recruiting class looks
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: very promising and I'm hopeful for the future. If staff
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: and donors can keep the guys that become starters out
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: of the portal. In my opinion, that was what led
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: to the demise of Neil Brown. He had plenty of talent,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: just couldn't keep it in Morgantown. Love the show, Yeah,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I mean retention is massive, yep, because you don't want
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: to be continually doing what you've had to do. Question
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: for Brad, what is WVU basketball versus the over under
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: the last three years has to be seventy percent or
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: more on the under. Can Brad use his calculated to
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: determine the percentage? This is for entertainment purposes only. I'm
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: just asking for a friend. Signed Joe from Barbersville. Thank you, Joe.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I'll have to go do something.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: What do you think it is on the top of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: your head.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I don't that's probably high. That would seem to be
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: a high percentage. Remember the books. It's not their first
• 1:06:15
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• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: on that. But I'll look at that. It's a good question.
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  Speaker 2: Flatwood is a good one, but I do like Elk Vield.
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  Speaker 2: I go left when I'm in Flatwoods View. You're usually
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  Speaker 2: left too left.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: One.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Got those big giant bottles of water. How that big?
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: Like those magnums? What's that wine. We had over at
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Duke's Wine Bar that one time. That's what they have
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: of wy in.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: There was bigger than a magnum. That was the biggest
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: bottles on I ever saw it, something called big Chick Texter.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I was out on a family trip in Williamsburg, Virginia,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: made a visit to Colonial Williamsburg, ran into Santa Claus downtown.
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  Speaker 1: After our kid's got the chance to meet up with Santa.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: My dad started making small talk with mister Claws. Turns
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: out Santa w VU grad and he wasn't particular literally
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: happy that we let the Clemson basketball game slip away.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Seems like there's always a West Virginia connection, even in
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the North Pole signed by Galen in Morgantown.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: A magnum is one point five leaders.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: This is much bigger thigger than that.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: This is like a jerreboem. That's what it was. It
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: was a jerreb j E R A B A M,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: three leaders, which shout out to essentially four bottles. Might
• 1:08:26
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• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: bought it, same group bo Yeah, I'm down in Stonewall.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: They met our same group coming back here.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: There was also one called a Neba Caneezer, which is
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: fifteen leaders.
• 1:08:38
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• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I made turn out.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I made four and a half pounds in yakey.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: How did it turn out?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Perfect? Perfect?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Good for you? Yeah? Nice? Yeah? So accidentally found so
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  Speaker 1: these are ricotta and yawkeys. Yeah, so what you do
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: you put there? You put the ricotta. I took three
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: pounds of rikatta. And my wife did this. She figured
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  Speaker 1: this one out. It says you dry your cheese, dry
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: it before you make it. I'd put it in for
• 1:09:13
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• 1:09:15
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• 1:09:17
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• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: that makes it no, no, no, no, it's the way
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: that comes out. I think it's the way. Yeah. And
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: it makes them so smooth. I get you guys over
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: there have those What made you just think of that?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: We were talking about We're talking about the jerebomb and
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: the leaders and the food and the weight, and I
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: was going like, I just made four and a half.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: You know you keep I don't want to you keep
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: saying that what you're gonna come over, that we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: come over and we're gonna have Like I was.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Just thinking about it the other day. We're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: it before Christmas. Skippy's always the one. He got ninety
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: two things going on. I gotta get you over there
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: soon because you got all these bowl games.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't come.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: So hey, three guys, we got games in January. Two
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: three guys logan from Manny to nice at that I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: came across from today Spotify. You know how they'll show
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  Speaker 1: you what you listen to the past year.
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• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and it gives you a rundown. I am
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: a top twenty six percent listener worldwide. Definitely not a
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  Speaker 1: P one, but need to make a new category. Go
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: men's basketballers. Good win against Coppin State looked good. Need
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: to make free throws. Liking what I'm seeing with the commits.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Rich is getting these things looking up for the holidays.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty amazing in all seriousness, Like we
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: came in here with our daubers down after the Texas
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Tech game on Monday. That kind of went away.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Week to week business, I mean day to day.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: I wasn't. I wasn't that down.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I just I thought it was.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: I looked at it objectively, I thought it was in.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Bad situational spot.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Hope season is here.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: By the way, what's that speaking recruiting? What's that recruiting event?
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Do you have that right in front of here? I
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: think I have it Avu sports dot com slash the
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: signing day, that's our event in Charleston comes up. What
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: begins like five forty five is five o'clockish, ye ish,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: somewhere in there down in Charles at the Marriott.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So here's I'll just tell you what it's gonna be. Marriat.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: That's very hard. It's gonna be hard. So let me
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: tell you what it's going to be. So we're gonna
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: have dinner at the Marriott, and uh Rich obviously gonna
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: be there, and among others, we're gonna have video boards
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: in the ballroom and then Rich on Mike and we're
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: gonna show the recruits video their highlights and we'll say, okay,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Hoppy courage, we'll tell us about it. Well, what we
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: liked about Hoppy is he had great break speat Da
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  Speaker 1: Da Da Dad. And we're just gonna go through those.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: It'd be a good breakdown, get some more insight. Rich'll
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: be rich, he'll be loose, and get some good stories
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: about these guys. I think this will be a fun
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: night if you're interested in football and especially interested in
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: recruiting in this next season. It'll be a neat event.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Handful of tickets remain, yes, so get in there quickly
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: once you hear this.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're recording.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: People are listening to this live, I realized, so they'll
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: be able to get in a little bit quicker.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: We're recording Thursday more so Yeah, jump on those in.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: The event is tomorrow night.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: You got to wear that letter sweater at the event.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what we're supposed to wear that thing.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: I have to find that.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: It's going to be cold person of your and the ballroom.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: It's cold person person marriage.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: By the way, if you want to get all of
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  Speaker 3: us in West Virginia to say Mary instead of Marriott,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a challenge, big challenge.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: That is that's one of them. That's like why that
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: would be like Coke coming out and saying, hey, it's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: not coke, it's Cooke. It's Coke.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I heard an announcer did that earlier this year around
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: a game, and it like it jarred me. Why did
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: Why did the Marriott folks wait till now to marrict
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: everybody Marriot Marriott.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: It might have been to be done because he was
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: talking about his name, which is pronounced Marriott.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: But it's been that way for fifty years old. Yeah, like,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: why do we just wait till now? I don't know
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: if it had been mispronounced. Shouldn't we have jumped in
• 1:12:52
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