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The Kenny Report | 6 October · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying You Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to another week on the Kenny Report tonight. The
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Speaker 3: Liberals in turmoil with their polling at record lows and
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Speaker 3: one nation capitalizing big time. Michaelia Cash joins me. The
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Speaker 3: Gaza peace Plan is in the balance. Terrorists of targeted
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Speaker 3: Jews again, this.
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Speaker 2: Time in Britain.
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Speaker 3: And you won't believe what the Greens leader has been saying. Here,
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Speaker 3: I'll cross to Israel and the US. The renewables roll
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Speaker 3: out continues, and I'll show you fresh footage of the
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Speaker 3: pristine bushland it's destroying with environmentalist Stephen Nawakowski.
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Speaker 2: Well that and plenty.
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Speaker 3: More with gemutone Uni and Caroline Dearusso let's get started.
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Speaker 2: The Liberals are fighting among themselves again.
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Speaker 3: Two of their most popular and promising front benches are
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Speaker 3: now on the back bench, as you know, both essentially
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Speaker 3: ruling themselves out of Susan Lee's team said it's a
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Speaker 3: just sent to Nambajimba. Price refused to express public support
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Speaker 3: for her leader, and Andrew Hasty chose not to remain
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Speaker 3: Shadow Home Affairs Minister if he couldn't drive immigration policy. This,
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Speaker 3: of course puts a lot of pressure on the opposition leader.
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Speaker 3: What sort of a team is she leading if two
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Speaker 3: shining stars don't want to be part of it. But
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Speaker 3: of course the tensions run far deeper than personalities and
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Speaker 3: leadership authority.
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Speaker 2: Lee is a moderate.
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Speaker 3: The two former backbenches are conservative, and the two backbenches
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Speaker 3: now former front benches are conservative, and the party is fracturing,
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Speaker 3: of course, along familiar lines. Hasty had already declared he
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Speaker 3: would not abide the party sticking with its net zero
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Speaker 3: by twenty to fifty policy, effectively jumping the gun on
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Speaker 3: this debate, despite the policy being under review, and sure enough,
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Speaker 3: there was backgrounding against him in the media today with
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Speaker 3: claims that Peter Dutton blames Hasty for some of the
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Speaker 3: coalition's woes in the election campaign, and now moderate MPs
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Speaker 3: like Andrew Bragg are out in the media defending net
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Speaker 3: zero and seemingly accusing some politicians of blaming the housing
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Speaker 3: crisis on migrants rather than on Labour's reckless migration policies.
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Speaker 3: I've got to say, I haven't heard anyone blaming migrants.
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Speaker 3: It's the government's job to decide the numbers of migrants,
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Speaker 3: and it's the numbers that have been criticized, not the
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Speaker 3: migrants anyway. The point is that these are crucial policy areas,
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Speaker 3: vital for voters, and not only does the opposition not
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Speaker 3: have policies on them, but it's divided on them. They
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Speaker 3: need to sort out what they believe in and sort
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Speaker 3: it out quick. For one, they are flailing in the polls,
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Speaker 3: with a primary voter near record lows, leaving them way
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Speaker 3: behind Labor on two party preferred, and the polling news
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Speaker 3: gets even more worrying for the coalition than that because
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Speaker 3: there are alternatives on the right, and one in particular,
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Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson's One Nation knows exactly where it stands on
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Speaker 3: Net zero and high immigration. The latest News poll mirrors
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Speaker 3: other polls showing One Nation's support has doubled since the election,
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Speaker 3: something Hansen discussed with me last week.
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Speaker 4: Since the Charlie Kirk incident, we in Chris a membship
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Speaker 4: of five percent, and our membership since the election has
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Speaker 4: grown quite a lot. I'm very impressed with that. We're
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Speaker 4: rolling out branches across the country and the people are
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Speaker 4: coming board.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are on the rise all right. Now, will
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Speaker 2: it sustain all the way.
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Speaker 3: Through to the election, Maybe maybe not, but it will
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Speaker 3: certainly stand up if the Liberals don't work out what
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Speaker 3: they stand for. They can talk all they like about
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Speaker 3: taking their time to get policies right and how they
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Speaker 3: don't need to reveal all their policy details so far
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Speaker 3: from an election. But first, we are being governed terribly
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Speaker 3: at the moment by a Labor, Greens and Teel outfit
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Speaker 3: that shames our nation in global diplomacy, risks our security
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Speaker 3: by not showing strength, and undermining our prosperity by persisting
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Speaker 3: with ruinous energy policies and reckless spending. So we need
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Speaker 3: an effective opposition to stand up for our interests against
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Speaker 3: this government which is run by Labour's socialist left faction.
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Speaker 3: And second, the opposition doesn't need to have all its
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Speaker 3: policy details at hand, It just needs to know what
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Speaker 3: it stands for. Does it think immigration needs to be
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Speaker 3: controlled and run in the national interest or not? Does
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Speaker 3: it accept that net zero is impossible to achieve, is
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Speaker 3: costing us dearly now and will have no impact at
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Speaker 3: all on the global climate, or does.
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Speaker 2: It think otherwise?
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Speaker 3: Stop trying to deliver policies designed by focus groups and
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Speaker 3: start telling us what you stand for, and then stand
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Speaker 3: up for those values give voters a.
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Speaker 2: Choice and some hope.
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Speaker 3: At the moment, the liberals are driving people away to
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Speaker 3: labor and the tials at one end and to one
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Speaker 3: nation at the other. They need to make themselves relevant.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps they should all get together somewhere for a few
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Speaker 3: days without any distractions and sort themselves out. Tomorrow it
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Speaker 3: will be two years since the unspeakable October the seventh atrocities,
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Speaker 3: the unprovoked terrorist invasion into southern Israel from Gaza that
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Speaker 3: killed twelve hundred people, saw another two hundred and fifty
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Speaker 3: taken hostage. One hundred of them have since been killed,
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Speaker 3: twenty remain in captivity, presumably alive, and the rest were
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Speaker 3: rescued or released in deals after being raped, tortured, and starved.
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Speaker 3: Some pro Palestinian and anti Israel protesters, incredibly have been
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Speaker 3: planning to stage demonstrations tomorrow. We will see what happens.
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Speaker 3: But the Prime Minister had this to say today, and.
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Speaker 5: I think that tomorrow is not a day, is not
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Speaker 5: a day for demonstrations. I think that for people who
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Speaker 5: engage and want to support or say they're supporting the
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Speaker 5: Palestinian cause, it will not advance it. It will set
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Speaker 5: it back in terms of support here in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Really a setback for their cause. How about an affront
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Speaker 3: to decency. How about pointing out it would be celebrating
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Speaker 3: the slaughter of innocent Israelis. How about pointing out that
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Speaker 3: it would therefore be an endorsement, if not an incitement
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Speaker 3: to terrorist violence.
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Speaker 5: It will be a somber day for Jewish Australians, but
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Speaker 5: for Jewish people everywhere, but for people as well who
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Speaker 5: just regard human rights and decent human behavior.
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Speaker 3: I guess he tried kind of, but Alberizi has been
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Speaker 3: weak on this stuff for a full two years. Albanizi,
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Speaker 3: a former anti Israel protest to himself, has never called
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Speaker 3: out the anti Israel and anti Jewish rhetoric and violence
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Speaker 3: the way he should have, And he's indirectly fuelled the
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Speaker 3: anti Semitism by constantly demonizing Israel, using the propaganda of
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Speaker 3: Humas to criticize Israel, directly take action against it diplomatically,
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Speaker 3: and even ban Israeli visitors to this country. At the
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Speaker 3: same time, mind you that he's welcomed Palestinians fleeing Gaza
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Speaker 3: and the widows and children of Isis terrorists it's all
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Speaker 3: deeply worrying, especially when we've had weekly protests in this
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Speaker 3: country effectively calling for the elimination of Israel, some protesters
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Speaker 3: brandishing the emblems of terrorist groups and others chanting for
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Speaker 3: the global into fada. How they cheer for intero Farda. Well,
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Speaker 3: we've seen now how Interfarda operates in Israel over many,
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Speaker 3: many years. It's often involved Islamist extremers driving their cars
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Speaker 3: into Jewish people at bus stops or on footpaths, a
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Speaker 3: trademark move of the terrorists, who have also often stabbed
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Speaker 3: Israeli soldiers, police and civilians. That is into Farda Palestinian style.
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Speaker 3: They've used gunfire and bombs too, but when the terrorists
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Speaker 3: can't get their hands on guns or bombs, they use
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Speaker 3: cars and knives. And any Australians chanting for inter Farda
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Speaker 3: got to see what it means. Last week with that
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Speaker 3: disgusting attack on Jews in the UK on their holiest day.
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Speaker 3: One person was killed by the terrorist, a Syrian born
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Speaker 3: UK citizen, Another was shot dead by police in the Mayhem,
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Speaker 3: and three others are fighting for their life lives. That's
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Speaker 3: into fada being globalized for you, and yet listen to
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Speaker 3: how the leader of our own Greens party talked about
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Speaker 3: this on the ABC yesterday.
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Speaker 6: Look, my heart goes out to the families of those people.
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Speaker 6: No violence anywhere is acceptable, and this is exactly why
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Speaker 6: we need a resolution that is based on self determination
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Speaker 6: and why Australia should have two years ago impost serious
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Speaker 6: sanctions on the Israeli government who have been conducting a
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Speaker 6: genocide and starving people children. It is utterly appalling.
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Speaker 3: She is blaming the victims. The Greens leader tells lies
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Speaker 3: about what Israel is doing in its war to defend itself,
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Speaker 3: and she essentially blames Israel for the terrorism directed at Jews,
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Speaker 3: and she sits in our Senate. Listen to Senator Waters
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Speaker 3: on that ridiculous Gaza flotilla with Greta Tunberg on.
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Speaker 6: Board that aid needs to get through, and I think
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Speaker 6: it's appalling that it's taken global civilians to try to
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Speaker 6: get food to Gaza. That should have been something that
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Speaker 6: the Israeli government allowed to occur. There should not be
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Speaker 6: a war of starvation.
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Speaker 3: Is she really that idiotic that she thinks this publicity
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Speaker 3: stunt floatilla has the aid needed in Gaza? Does she
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Speaker 3: not know how much aid has flowed in and is
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Speaker 3: flowing into Gaza thanks to Israel. She talks about a
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Speaker 3: war of starvation. In other words, she spouts lies, hummus
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Speaker 3: propaganda against Israel to stoke hatred. But if you wonder
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Speaker 3: about her grasp on reality, have a listened to this
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Speaker 3: answer about Australians involved in the flotilla.
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Speaker 6: We need to make sure that the Australian ambassador in
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Speaker 6: Gaza is getting those citizens back and shepherding them to safety.
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Speaker 6: And our government should be doing everything it can to
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Speaker 6: get our citizens home safely. Surely that's their one job.
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Speaker 3: She reckons we've got an ambassador in Gaza. Does she
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Speaker 3: know anything about Gaza? We know Albo has recognized the
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Speaker 3: non existent state of Palestine.
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Speaker 2: That's nutty enough.
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Speaker 3: But the Greens leader thinks we'd have an ambassador in Gaza.
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Speaker 2: What planet is she on?
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Speaker 3: What does she think Humas would do with an Australian
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Speaker 3: diplomat in Gaza? Take them hostage, behead them, or have
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Speaker 3: a cup of tea with them. It really makes you despair,
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Speaker 3: doesn't it. But not to be outdone by this sort
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Speaker 3: of intellectual and moral vacuum, listen to Greta Tumberg herself.
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Speaker 3: Listen to what she says to the world after the
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Speaker 3: Israelis intercepted the Gaza flotilla, saving the protesters from themselves.
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Speaker 7: My name is Givinton Bay. I'm a citizen of Sweden.
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Speaker 7: If you are watching this video, I.
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Speaker 8: Have been abducted and taken against my will by Israeli
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Speaker 8: for says oh humanitarian mission was nonviolent and abiding by
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Speaker 8: international law.
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Speaker 3: Did she not even stop to consider how twenty Israeli
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Speaker 3: hostages remain in captivity in Gaza after they really were abducted,
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Speaker 3: and they're still in the hands of Hummas, where they've
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Speaker 3: been abused and starved and used as propaganda props, where
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Speaker 3: they've been held in an ongoing war crime for one
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Speaker 3: day short of two years now.
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Speaker 2: Did Gretta stop to think of that or.
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Speaker 3: The dozens of dead hostages whose bodies Hummas still holds
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Speaker 3: as bargaining chips. No, real abductees don't matter to Greta,
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Speaker 3: only her pretense about being abducted, while real hot just suffer,
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Speaker 3: and she runs a campaign that only helps the propaganda
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Speaker 3: campaign run by their capitals. Sick stuff, sick but common
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Speaker 3: throughout the West now Tomorrow's anniversary marks two years of
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Speaker 3: horror and pain and two years of deliberate war started
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Speaker 3: and continued by Hummas. But it also marks two years
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Speaker 3: of false moral equivalence and lies and deception by much
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Speaker 3: of the Western media and political class. Let's go now
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Speaker 3: to Shadow Foreign Minister Michaulia Cash joins US live from Canberra.
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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you again, Senator. First up, I've
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Speaker 3: got to get your thoughts on Larissa Waters. There she
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Speaker 3: is blaming victims. Surely she did such thoughts. Surely don't
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Speaker 3: even have a place in the Senate. But I mean
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Speaker 3: she they're democratically elected.
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Speaker 2: Is is she fit to sit in the Senate.
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Speaker 3: She's blaming Israel for all the terrorism directed against Jews.
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Speaker 9: Well, I'm going to assure you I do not agree
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Speaker 9: with Larissa waters views.
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Speaker 2: In fact, I would.
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Speaker 9: Hope that the majority of Australians don't agree with them,
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Speaker 9: because ultimately, I've said this before, Chris, and I'll say
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Speaker 9: it again. I have a very simple principle. Hamas are terrorists.
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Speaker 9: You do not reward terrorists. You stand with Israel, the
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Speaker 9: only functioning democracy in the Middle East. Do the Greens
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Speaker 9: not understand that hamas are not just dedicated to the
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Speaker 9: destruction of Israel. They're actually backed funded by the Islamic
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Speaker 9: Republic of Iran, who hate the West. They hate everything
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Speaker 9: that you and I stand for. So quite frankly, I
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Speaker 9: find the comments of the leader of the Australian the
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Speaker 9: Greens utterly appalling. But I have to say, Chris, I've
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Speaker 9: now worked with the Australian Greens for a long time
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Speaker 9: and sadly they're unsurprising. But I will never make excuses
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Speaker 9: for terrorists who hate everything that I stand for on
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Speaker 9: a daily basis and want to see my values destroyed.
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Speaker 3: What about the ignorance, though of a party leader, a
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Speaker 3: senator and party leader who thinks we'd have an ambassador
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Speaker 3: in Garza dealing with UMAs.
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Speaker 9: Oh well, I have to say, you put three scenarios A,
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Speaker 9: B and C, and let me tell you it's not
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Speaker 9: going to be Have a cup of tea. But again,
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Speaker 9: you have to go back to basic fundamentals. You stand
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Speaker 9: and you fight for Israel. Why because they are the
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Speaker 9: only functioning democracy in the Middle East. They share, Chris,
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Speaker 9: the same values that you and I share. The reason
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Speaker 9: we can have this conv sation is because we are
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Speaker 9: part of the free world that values freedom of speech.
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Speaker 9: The only reason Larissa Waters can say what she says
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Speaker 9: is because of free speech, which is part of our
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Speaker 9: Western values. And yet she is prepared to stand up
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Speaker 9: and go into bat four Hummus funded by the Islamic
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Speaker 9: Republic of Iran, who hate everything that we stand for.
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Speaker 9: Sometimes in life you just have to shake your head,
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Speaker 9: and this is one of those moments.
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Speaker 3: Chris sure Is, So let's go to the peace plan
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Speaker 3: that's been put together by Donald Trump. We all hope
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Speaker 3: it works, but I've been surprised how bullish he's been
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Speaker 3: about it, because you get nothing from Hummas. They haven't
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Speaker 3: signed up to it, and there's obviously stringing things along
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Speaker 3: for a while. How much optimism do you have about
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Speaker 3: Hummus actually effectively surrendering, putting down their weapons, and most
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Speaker 3: importantly handing back the hostages.
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Speaker 9: Well, I have to say I give Donald Trump credit
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Speaker 9: in terms of what was mister Albin EASi was overplaying
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Speaker 9: the theater of the United Nations and giving kamas as
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Speaker 9: and I quote the fruits of October seventh in rewarding
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Speaker 9: them with the recognition of a Palestinian state. President Trump
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Speaker 9: was getting as one step closer to peace. I mean,
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Speaker 9: even if his peace plan doesn't solve everything, it has
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Speaker 9: isolated Humus. That is a good thing. It actually now
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Speaker 9: has the Arab States and even the majority Muslim states
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Speaker 9: working with Israel and America. The United States have reasserted
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Speaker 9: themselves on that diplomatic stage. So I have to say,
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Speaker 9: I think President Trump if he can pull this off,
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Speaker 9: and I think that we are each day a step
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Speaker 9: closer towards that happening. But even if it doesn't solve anything,
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Speaker 9: you have now seen a major realignment in the Middle East,
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Speaker 9: and that is a good thing. But Hamas also need
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Speaker 9: to understand the ball is now squarely in their court.
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Speaker 9: Release the hostages, disarm, you will no longer have any
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Speaker 9: role in governing Gaza, Your people will be free of
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Speaker 9: your terrorist train, and we can finally take concrete steps
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Speaker 9: towards ending this war. But the balls in Humasa's court.
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Speaker 3: Chris, Look, the Arab support for this is crucial, as
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Speaker 3: you say, in many ways that extension of the Abraham
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Speaker 3: Accords in Donald Trump's first term, and by extension, if
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Speaker 3: they back this peace plan, they also back Israel and America's.
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Speaker 2: Commitment to eliminate Hamas.
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Speaker 3: If they don't sign up to it, So one way
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Speaker 3: or the other, we should see an end to this conflagration.
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Speaker 3: That's hopefully it happens in the peaceful surrender rather than
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Speaker 3: more fighting to eliminate what's left of I want to
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Speaker 3: come back to domestic politics and the coalition. What sort
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Speaker 3: of a front bench can you have when you've got
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Speaker 3: two leading lights that you know, well just sit there now,
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Speaker 3: a jimper Price and Andrew Hasty on the back bench.
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Speaker 3: They're leading lights of your party and they're not only
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Speaker 3: wasted on the back bench, they're obviously going to be
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Speaker 3: a focus for anybody who wants an alternative approach or
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Speaker 3: even alternative leadership.
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Speaker 9: I think both Sindra and Andrew are incredibly strong performers,
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Speaker 9: and I think actually regardless of whether they're on the
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Speaker 9: back bench or the front bench, they will both continue
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Speaker 9: to make an incredibly strong contribution. Ultimately as a coalition, Chris,
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Speaker 9: we need to be focused on this appalling government. Talking
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Speaker 9: about ourselves does nothing to garner faith in the Australian
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Speaker 9: people that we are a viable alternative. I can tell
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Speaker 9: you what my focus is going to be on this week.
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Speaker 9: You have a Prime Minister, a Minister for Home Affairs
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Speaker 9: Tony Burke and a Foreign Minister Penny Wong, who under
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Speaker 9: their government have now seen the return of the isis brides,
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Speaker 9: and what are they saying to the Australian people. There's
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Speaker 9: nothing to see here. My focus is squarely going to
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Speaker 9: be on holding this disastrous government to account and that
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Speaker 9: is what the Australian people. They deserve it. But I
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Speaker 9: think they also expect us to be a strong opposition.
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Speaker 3: You're dead right, Michaulia Cash, that's what you need to do.
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Speaker 3: But the fact that that's not happening, the fact that
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Speaker 3: we're hearing more about the opposition fighting amongst itself rather
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Speaker 3: than the attacks on the government, doesn't that show that
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Speaker 3: Susan Lee is failing.
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Speaker 7: I disagree.
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Speaker 9: I think that five months after what is possibly or
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Speaker 9: is the most devastating election loss in our time, we
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Speaker 9: are working through a process, We are working through policies,
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Speaker 9: and we're looking at what we can actually take to
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Speaker 9: the next election. I actually don't think it's unusual that
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Speaker 9: you are having these conversations, But what I do want
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Speaker 9: to focus on every single day is having these conversations internally,
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Speaker 9: not through the press, and not externally but as I said,
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Speaker 9: in particular, these women left Australia, the Isis brides to
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Speaker 9: actually join a death cult, and mister Alberanzi, Tony Burke
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Speaker 9: and Penny Wong they think there's nothing to see here.
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Speaker 9: To me, that is a fundamental difference Chris, between the
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Speaker 9: opposition and the Alberanesi government. We will always put Australia
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Speaker 9: and the safety of Australians first. We're not going to
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Speaker 9: make excuses for these isis brides.
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Speaker 2: That is where my fracas is. They're Australian citizens. How
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Speaker 2: would you have blocked their.
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Speaker 9: Return Australian citizens? And the question is what did this
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Speaker 9: government do, whether by its own hands or by its
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Speaker 9: departments to facilitate their return. Because the children were not
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Speaker 9: born here, they did not have passports, they did not
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Speaker 9: have travel documents. So I want to know exactly what
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Speaker 9: the government and the department's roles were in facilitating these
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Speaker 9: and how quickly they did that. But not only that
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Speaker 9: they are now here, where are they what are the
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Speaker 9: monitoring conditions? Have people been advised that they are now
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Speaker 9: back in the community. There are now so many questions
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Speaker 9: that this government needs to answer. But ultimately from my perspective,
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Speaker 9: this is just another fundamental failing of a government that
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Speaker 9: doesn't take the safety and security of Australians seriously. But
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Speaker 9: worse than that, when questioned about it in the Parliament,
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Speaker 9: in both the Senate Chris and the House of reprit Zendatives,
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Speaker 9: they say there's nothing to see here.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us Michaulia cash spot on. There are
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Speaker 3: a lot of questions to be answered over that, and
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Speaker 3: no doubt we'll get more questions in parliament right out
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Speaker 3: of time there. The other thing I wanted to mention
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Speaker 3: just in passing is that Papua New Guinea Defense Agreement.
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Speaker 3: We talked the other week about how it had been
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Speaker 3: delayed and imperiled. It was signed in Canberra today, so
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Speaker 3: that's good news. That's a smart bit of a diplomacy
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Speaker 3: done by the Albanesi Labor government with p ANDNG. It
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Speaker 3: was in doubt there for a while, but they've managed
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Speaker 3: to sign that today. I want to focus now on
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Speaker 3: the reckless renewables roll out and focus on one project
24:35
Speaker 3: in particular. It's Lotus Creek Wind Farm and it's under
24:39
Speaker 3: construction in central Queensland, northwest of Rockhampton. Environmentalist and photographer
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Speaker 3: Stephen Nailkowski has visited the site.
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Speaker 10: Have a look at this beautiful country here, ladies, Creek
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Speaker 10: Wind Farm site and up here in the tree.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a beautiful picture off a koala. But
25:06
Speaker 3: have a look at this. The installation is going to
25:07
Speaker 3: host forty six turbines, each of them up to two
25:11
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty meters tool that's spread across three thousand
25:15
Speaker 3: hectares that currently looks like this. For more, let's go
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Speaker 3: to environmentalist and photographer Stephen Nawkowski.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us again, Stephen. Just a shocking to
25:26
Speaker 2: look at those pictures.
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Speaker 3: The extent of the land clearing, not just the tracks,
25:30
Speaker 3: but massive areas are cleared to put the turbines up
25:34
Speaker 3: and obviously store gear and what not.
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Speaker 2: To describe this bushland tour, So what you know of it?
25:41
Speaker 3: What is there and how much damage is being done?
25:46
Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's what we call high elevation refuge of forest.
25:50
Speaker 10: Though it's the mountaintops that have escaped the clearing in
25:55
Speaker 10: the past, so it's considered as old growth forest. It's
25:59
Speaker 10: never been or selectively long, it's never been cleared, and
26:03
Speaker 10: even cattle grazing in this area is really nonexistent because
26:08
Speaker 10: of its rugged terrain, partialists can't muster cattle, so it's
26:12
Speaker 10: really in pristine condition. But it's these areas that are
26:19
Speaker 10: now being targeted by the wind industry in Queensland because
26:22
Speaker 10: this is where there's a scheric of wind along the
26:25
Speaker 10: coastal ranges of Queensland. So what we're seeing is vast
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Speaker 10: amounts right now being cleared for green energy. The hypocrisy
26:34
Speaker 10: is outstanding.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's shocking to sea.
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Speaker 3: And it's not an isolated case, as you've demonstrated with
26:40
Speaker 3: us before through the animation you've done showing it to
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Speaker 3: us all the current and proposed wind farms right along
26:48
Speaker 3: the east coast, right along the Queensland that mountain range
26:52
Speaker 3: along there is extraordinary. Of course, the experts say, the
26:55
Speaker 3: government says they need to quadruple the number of wind
26:59
Speaker 3: turbines in this country to get to net zero. Let's
27:02
Speaker 3: just show you what the Greens leader who I've been
27:05
Speaker 3: talking a lot about today, Larissa Waters, have a look
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Speaker 3: at what she said yesterday yesterday about the environmental damage
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Speaker 3: of this rollout.
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Speaker 6: I accept that renewables have to be in the right place,
27:17
Speaker 6: and if this one isn't in the right place. Well,
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Speaker 6: let's look at somewhere else to put it. We are
27:21
Speaker 6: going to need large scale renewables in far greater capacity
27:24
Speaker 6: than we have.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she was referencing one wind fund proposed for Tasmania there.
27:29
Speaker 2: But they seem to.
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Speaker 3: Be just giving the renewables industry a bit of a
27:34
Speaker 3: leave pass when it comes to their so called environmental aims.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, the Greens are delusional on this. They've got absolutely
27:41
Speaker 10: no idea what the task at hand is to try
27:45
Speaker 10: to achieve these twenty fifty targets. We've done some recent
27:50
Speaker 10: mapping and in the pipeline we're going to need around
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Speaker 10: thirty one thousand wind towers, close to five hundred thousand
27:58
Speaker 10: hectares of solar well over five hundred million solar panels.
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Speaker 10: So Larisa Waters has got no idea. She wouldn't even
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Speaker 10: know that there is a wind farm proposed for the
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Speaker 10: Tarquine Wilderness of the west coast of Tasmania, three hundred
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Speaker 10: and twenty wind towers in an area that is earmarked
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Speaker 10: for World Heritage listing. She wouldn't know that there's three
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Speaker 10: thousand turbines proposed in the Nullibre on the coast called
28:29
Speaker 10: the Western Green energy hub which threatens again another World
28:33
Speaker 10: Heritage site there. This is a reckless rollout. There is
28:38
Speaker 10: no transparency and it's about time that the greens and
28:43
Speaker 10: also all the conservation groups start waking up to what's
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Speaker 10: going on and calling out some of these really shocking proposals.
28:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, they seem to be silent and a lot of
28:55
Speaker 3: this stuff now apart from the clearing of the land
28:57
Speaker 3: and obviously breaking up with tracks that were there before,
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Speaker 3: but that's terrible now and it's getting rid of some
29:04
Speaker 3: of the habitat and obviously bad for the wildlife there
29:06
Speaker 3: at the moment. But what about when the wind farms
29:09
Speaker 3: are up and running. Are there any ongoing costs to
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Speaker 3: the environment beyond the aesthetics.
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Speaker 10: Well, that's right, we don't know what those costs are.
29:17
Speaker 10: Look of ground truthed the bases of many wind turbines
29:21
Speaker 10: in North Queensland and guaranteed to see dead birds and bats.
29:26
Speaker 10: In fact, a number of occasions I've seen Pacific swifts
29:30
Speaker 10: under the turbines in Caban wind Farm. These are critically
29:34
Speaker 10: endangered migratory birds and there was a recent report released
29:40
Speaker 10: saying that the major threat to that species is wind farms.
29:44
Speaker 10: But we don't know. What we don't really know what
29:49
Speaker 10: is the impact. What we do know is that we're
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Speaker 10: pushing in tens of thousands of kilometers and new roads
29:54
Speaker 10: into these remote wild areas, and by doing that we
29:58
Speaker 10: fragment forests, have weed incursions, edge effects, altered fire regimes,
30:04
Speaker 10: and your tens of thousands of birds and bats. You know,
30:11
Speaker 10: what we don't know is the cumulative impact of all this?
30:14
Speaker 2: Yeah you so.
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Speaker 10: Like I said earlier, we've got around thirty one thousand
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Speaker 10: wind towers potentially proposed. The cumulative impact of that is huge.
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Speaker 2: Thirty one thousand more to go. It's extraordinary stuff.
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Speaker 3: Stephen, thanks for joining us again and thanks for sharing
30:31
Speaker 3: those incredible and distressing pictures from up there in the
30:36
Speaker 3: central Queensland Mountains or range there near the coast, not
30:40
Speaker 3: too far from the coast, about twenty k's inland now.
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Speaker 3: Stephen supports nuclear energy now because he's a committed environmentalist.
30:47
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to see this amount of damage done
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Speaker 3: to the bushland around the country. Why don't we go
30:52
Speaker 3: for dense and compact, emissions free electricity.
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Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break on the other
30:58
Speaker 2: side of that.
30:58
Speaker 3: I'll cross to Israel and get the latest on this
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Speaker 3: proposed Gaza peace plan that's put forward by Donald Trump.
31:03
Speaker 2: Gerald Steinberg will join me next. We'll cross to Jerusalem
31:10
Speaker 2: in just a moment.
31:11
Speaker 3: But first, negotiations to end the war between Israel and
31:14
Speaker 3: Hamas we'll get underway in Egypt today.
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Speaker 2: Here's the latest from Fox News.
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Speaker 11: One key snag could remain that is disarming Hamas. The
31:23
Speaker 11: group would have to give up its rifles and its rockets,
31:26
Speaker 11: something hamasa's leadership has not agreed to do so yet.
31:29
Speaker 11: It Israeli official say that is going to happen, whether
31:33
Speaker 11: it is diplomatically or by the use of military force.
31:38
Speaker 11: In the meantime, here on the ground, there is a
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Speaker 11: real sense that positive things could be happening for the
31:43
Speaker 11: hostages very soon. More than one hundred thousand people came
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Speaker 11: out to show their support for the return of the
31:49
Speaker 11: hostages last night, many expressing, they say, for the first time,
31:53
Speaker 11: a sense of cautious optimism.
31:56
Speaker 3: Let's go again to the professor of politics at Barilan
31:59
Speaker 3: Universe City. Gerald Steinberg joins us live from Israel. Good
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Speaker 3: to talk to you again, Gerald is Hamas just playing
32:06
Speaker 3: for time here at the moment, I think.
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Speaker 1: There are divisions in Kamas, and we see quite a
32:11
Speaker 1: bit of evidence of that, and there are not that
32:13
Speaker 1: many people left in Kammas to be able to make
32:15
Speaker 1: those decisions. Is the ones in Katar that's a group
32:18
Speaker 1: is double in Turkey, and then they're ones that are
32:20
Speaker 1: still left in Gaza, and that's difficult for the communicate.
32:23
Speaker 1: The division seemed to be and again this is reading
32:25
Speaker 1: a little bit of crystal ballism, but the division seemed
32:28
Speaker 1: to be those who say, in Kamas, people who look
32:31
Speaker 1: at the tremendous pet price that Palestinians have paid in
32:35
Speaker 1: Gaza and the fact that Thomas is almost on the
32:37
Speaker 1: edge of being destroyed, they want to at least maintain
32:41
Speaker 1: something of the control and power, and therefore they seem
32:44
Speaker 1: to be in favor of releasing the Israeli hostages. We're
32:47
Speaker 1: talking about two years of painous torture in Gaza and
32:50
Speaker 1: reaching some sort of an agreement based on the Trump outlines.
32:53
Speaker 1: So I think there is and then there's the group
32:55
Speaker 1: that wants to keep fighting, keep fighting to the death,
32:58
Speaker 1: and thinks that Trump is not so and that Israel
33:01
Speaker 1: will be for stars or withdraw without having to give
33:04
Speaker 1: up the hostages, so without Commas having to give up
33:06
Speaker 1: the hostages. So there are really very difficult divisions, and
33:10
Speaker 1: Commas has to decide what it's going to do.
33:12
Speaker 3: We talked last week how this is an effect an
33:14
Speaker 3: ultimatum to harm us our last chance. Here is Benjamin
33:19
Speaker 3: Yahu on that in the last twenty four hours.
33:23
Speaker 11: We said that Hamas will be disarmed and there will
33:26
Speaker 11: be a demilitarization of the Gaza strip.
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Speaker 2: It will be done either by us or in a political.
33:31
Speaker 11: Way, either in the easy way or in the hard way,
33:35
Speaker 11: but it will be achieved.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's very clear.
33:39
Speaker 3: And Donald Trump echoes that if you don't come to
33:42
Speaker 3: the party with this peace deal, if you don't effectively surrender,
33:46
Speaker 3: Israel will have full support in going into Gaza City
33:49
Speaker 3: and taking out what is left of the Hummas leadership.
33:52
Speaker 3: That the question I want to put to you, Gerald
33:54
Speaker 3: is given that the Arab countries in Turkey as well
33:58
Speaker 3: apparently have signed up to this peace plan, does that
34:02
Speaker 3: mean that they would then endorse the idef taking out Hamas.
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Speaker 1: Short answer is no. I can't envision particularly Turkey but
34:12
Speaker 1: also Katar the leadership there of endorsing anything that would
34:17
Speaker 1: rely on Israeli forces to prevent terrorism in any way.
34:20
Speaker 1: They are part of the Muslim Brotherhood framework, Kamas's Muslim Brotherhood,
34:26
Speaker 1: and that is a very broad threat throughout the region.
34:29
Speaker 1: And when you have Katar, which is really the home
34:31
Speaker 1: of the Muslim Brotherhood these days, and Urduana and Turkey
34:35
Speaker 1: helping them, they're not going to agree to any kind
34:37
Speaker 1: of Israeli presence. It's going to be either if Israel
34:40
Speaker 1: goes in, it's going to have to be just with
34:42
Speaker 1: the support of the United States. But it's going to
34:45
Speaker 1: be as mister Daniel has said, and also Trump talked
34:48
Speaker 1: about obliterating that that Hammas will be obliterated. It's going
34:51
Speaker 1: to be high price that they're going to pay. So
34:53
Speaker 1: they're debating that, and Israeli says that the program showed
34:58
Speaker 1: before that Israeli is a sitting here and very watching,
35:01
Speaker 1: very carefully and hoping for the best, but not at
35:04
Speaker 1: all reassured.
35:05
Speaker 3: But that's another reason, apart from the humanitarian reason that
35:08
Speaker 3: we all want no more conflict, no more death. So
35:11
Speaker 3: another reason Donald Trump would really want to put the
35:14
Speaker 3: pressure on how much to accept this deal now is
35:17
Speaker 3: because you'll maintain that sort of a coalition for one
35:20
Speaker 3: of a better word of Arab support for what's going
35:23
Speaker 3: on there.
35:26
Speaker 2: Trump has done a very.
35:27
Speaker 1: Good job of building that framework, building that coalition, and
35:30
Speaker 1: really without offending or pushing Israel into a corner, they're
35:33
Speaker 1: all kind of working together in some ways under Trump's leadership.
35:37
Speaker 1: Trump's also squeezing kat Dar in Turkey. There are also
35:40
Speaker 1: conditions on this. In some ways, it's a bear hug.
35:42
Speaker 1: Trump says, we're going to protect Katar from any kind
35:46
Speaker 1: of foreign military attack, but that means also the cutou
35:49
Speaker 1: is very limited. It knows it's dependent, and the Trump
35:51
Speaker 1: keeps upset because they're not cooperating. If they say, Trump says, look,
35:56
Speaker 1: you're not putting enough pressure on Commas. So they would
35:57
Speaker 1: have accepted the deal already last week. That's a big
36:00
Speaker 1: problem for the Kato and also to somebody for the
36:03
Speaker 1: Turkish leadership. So it's a really a multi level game,
36:06
Speaker 1: very complex, and Trump has to be given a lot
36:08
Speaker 1: of credit along with Antonia hoof maneuvering all of this, whether.
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Speaker 2: Gerald or not.
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Speaker 3: Gerald, thanks for joining us again. Let's hope there's some
36:16
Speaker 3: good news soon. Even on the two year anniversary of
36:20
Speaker 3: October the seventh, You never know. Thanks for joining US again,
36:24
Speaker 3: We're got to go to a break. On the other side,
36:25
Speaker 3: I've got to catch up with Kristen Tate in the US.
36:28
Speaker 3: We'll get more on this deal from the Donald Trump
36:31
Speaker 3: White House perspective. Also Kamala Harris in denial over her
36:36
Speaker 3: election loss. Now in a moment, we'll go to Kristen
36:42
Speaker 3: Tate in the US. But first Donald Trump is confident
36:45
Speaker 3: his Guaza peace plan will come to fruition. Here's the
36:48
Speaker 3: US President speaking this morning.
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Speaker 1: The countries of the world, a lot of the countries
36:54
Speaker 1: surrounding Israel, frankly Muslim, Arab and many others.
37:00
Speaker 3: I had great meetings with Homage.
37:02
Speaker 2: And it looks like it's working. So we'll wait for
37:04
Speaker 2: a little while see how it alterns.
37:06
Speaker 3: Out to work very very quickly.
37:09
Speaker 2: I think it's going to go very quickly.
37:12
Speaker 3: There is a long way to go, and as I
37:14
Speaker 3: put to Christen, there's a lot of talk and.
37:17
Speaker 2: Hope, but not much action.
37:19
Speaker 7: Yes, essentially right back where we were last week. He's
37:23
Speaker 7: still kind of working on that same plan, and it
37:26
Speaker 7: calls for an immediate cease fire and exchange of all
37:29
Speaker 7: the hostages, a staged withdrawal of the Israeli army, from Gaza,
37:34
Speaker 7: the disarming of Hamas obviously, and then the creation of
37:38
Speaker 7: a sort of transitional government led by an international group.
37:42
Speaker 7: So far, I guess on Friday, Famas agreed to release
37:46
Speaker 7: all of the Israeli hostages, both alive and dead, but
37:48
Speaker 7: they are not agreeing to disarm or to give up
37:52
Speaker 7: any power in Gaza. So right now, there's a lot
37:54
Speaker 7: of hopeful rhetoric coming out of the White House. I
37:57
Speaker 7: certainly hope this works out, but President Trump has made
38:00
Speaker 7: it very clear that if Hamas is not willing to
38:04
Speaker 7: work and come up with a plan, in fact, this plan,
38:08
Speaker 7: if they're not willing to agree to this plan, then
38:10
Speaker 7: y'all who has the full backing of the United States
38:13
Speaker 7: to go in there and do what needs to be done.
38:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll come back to that in a moment, but
38:17
Speaker 3: there's no doubt that we all hope this works.
38:20
Speaker 2: But did surprise me last week how bullish I.
38:24
Speaker 3: Suppose, how optimistic the president was he is the president
38:27
Speaker 3: last week, mass plan is amazing.
38:30
Speaker 11: You're gonna have peace, if you think about it, peace
38:33
Speaker 11: in the Middle East for the first time, and they say,
38:37
Speaker 11: really three thousand years.
38:39
Speaker 2: So I'm very honored to be.
38:40
Speaker 3: A big part of that bringing peace after three thousand years.
38:44
Speaker 3: Now again, we all hope he's right, but he's dealing
38:46
Speaker 3: with a terrorist group and he's trying to get them
38:49
Speaker 3: to free the hostages, and to be so optimistic to
38:52
Speaker 3: me is a bit problematic.
38:54
Speaker 2: I mean, I won't believe.
38:55
Speaker 3: This until I see the hostages walking into Israeli hands.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, this approach by Trump doesn't surprise me, though.
39:03
Speaker 7: This is kind of how he is as a deal maker.
39:06
Speaker 7: He approaches every deal he brokers very optimistically. That's sort
39:10
Speaker 7: of his strategy. But yes, and it pains me to
39:14
Speaker 7: say this, but the idea that Trump, for any other
39:16
Speaker 7: international leader for that matter, can bring long lasting peace
39:20
Speaker 7: between Israel and Hamas, I mean, that's kind of just
39:23
Speaker 7: wishful thinking. Of course, Trump is going to do everything
39:26
Speaker 7: in his power to make a miracle happen here. I
39:29
Speaker 7: think he would love to have Middle East peace be
39:32
Speaker 7: a part of his legacy. But let's let's face it,
39:34
Speaker 7: it's a long shot. And I think we talked about
39:38
Speaker 7: this last week. You know, even if Hamas does agree
39:40
Speaker 7: to this, all it takes Chris is a couple of
39:43
Speaker 7: Palestinian radicals to stage another attack on Israel like October seventh,
39:49
Speaker 7: and you have this whole situation again. So I think
39:53
Speaker 7: Trump's trying his best here, but I am not as
39:56
Speaker 7: optimistic as he was last week.
39:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why.
39:59
Speaker 3: Of course this is a peace deal if it comes
40:01
Speaker 3: to fruition, and we welcome that. But what it really
40:04
Speaker 3: is is an ultimatum. It's pressure to force Hamas to surrender.
40:10
Speaker 3: And in this latest exchange with C and n's Jake Tappa,
40:14
Speaker 3: President Donald Trump makes that pretty clear.
40:16
Speaker 2: Have listen.
40:17
Speaker 11: I asked him what happens if Kamas insists on staying
40:21
Speaker 11: in power in Gaza?
40:23
Speaker 2: The President said, complete obliteration. Yeah, that's the point here,
40:29
Speaker 2: isn't it.
40:29
Speaker 3: Unless Hamas rolls over, hands back the hostages and disarms,
40:33
Speaker 3: then both Donald Trump and Benjamin and Yahoo's saying that
40:37
Speaker 3: the IDEF will go in there and root out the
40:40
Speaker 3: very last people, the very last terror cells of Hamas
40:44
Speaker 3: in Gaza.
40:47
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I mean this is the only language that
40:50
Speaker 7: a group like Kamas is going to understand. So these
40:53
Speaker 7: kinds of threats are necessary, but it's also very important
40:56
Speaker 7: to follow through on that threat if Amas doesn't cooperate,
40:59
Speaker 7: and so far, the President has made it clear that
41:02
Speaker 7: Hugh baxenet and y'all who in that effort if it
41:04
Speaker 7: comes to that.
41:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, this is the language that they'll understand,
41:08
Speaker 3: and let's hope there's a breakthrough sometime soon. I want
41:10
Speaker 3: to bring it back though, to domestic US politics briefly,
41:13
Speaker 3: because we get so much lecturing from the Democrats, from
41:17
Speaker 3: the liberals about Trump not accepting the electoral system and
41:21
Speaker 3: the electoral verdicts.
41:22
Speaker 2: But the left themselves so often.
41:25
Speaker 3: Squeal about election results, as of course Hillary Clinton did.
41:29
Speaker 3: But here's Kamala Harris not accepting a mandate, not accepting
41:33
Speaker 3: that Donald Trump has a mandate. Have a listen, he
41:53
Speaker 3: does not have a mandate Christian. This is just like
41:56
Speaker 3: Lary Clinton saying that will form the resistance against this
41:59
Speaker 3: ill to the government.
42:02
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kamala Harris is completely out of her mind. I
42:05
Speaker 7: saw hilarious Babylon the headline this morning that said Kamala
42:10
Speaker 7: Harris does speaking tour to remind the nation why Trump
42:13
Speaker 7: is president.
42:14
Speaker 2: And it's so true.
42:15
Speaker 7: Everyone everyone is embarrassed by her, and the speaking tour
42:20
Speaker 7: just makes it even more cringe. Even committed liberals at
42:23
Speaker 7: this point kind of just wish she would quietly go away,
42:26
Speaker 7: but I'm rooting for her to stay out there. Please
42:29
Speaker 7: Kamala run again. But you're right. Trump won every swing state,
42:33
Speaker 7: he won the popular vote, he won the electoral college
42:36
Speaker 7: nearly every county in the country. He went to the right.
42:39
Speaker 7: If that is not a mandate, I'm really not sure
42:41
Speaker 7: what is Chris.
42:42
Speaker 2: You are right, she has a loss to her mind.
42:45
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us again, Kristen, Thank you, Chris.
42:50
Speaker 3: Christ and tight there in the US always tells us
42:53
Speaker 3: exactly what she's thinking. We got to take a break now.
42:55
Speaker 3: On the other side, I'll have Jim and Caroline. We'll
42:58
Speaker 3: talk about the Liberals in TwoMorrows and turmoil with their
43:01
Speaker 3: polls heading south.
43:02
Speaker 2: Will also get back into this Middle East.
43:03
Speaker 3: Issue that solved the problems of the world with Gemutine
43:10
Speaker 3: Uni from GT Communication and Caroline Deer are so joining
43:14
Speaker 3: us from Perth as Eversky and News contributed. Look, I
43:17
Speaker 3: want to get onto the Liberal Party in a moment,
43:19
Speaker 3: but just before we do it, I don't want to
43:20
Speaker 3: spend too much time on this because we've talked a
43:22
Speaker 3: lot about in the show tonight. But the peace steal
43:25
Speaker 3: and Donald Trump, how much hope do you have And
43:28
Speaker 3: I've got to say, the more I think about it,
43:30
Speaker 3: the more I'm tempted to think on the two year anniversary,
43:33
Speaker 3: that horrendous anniversary tomorrow, both sides might be tempted to
43:37
Speaker 3: try and strike it then if.
43:39
Speaker 12: They can, I'm hopeful that that's the case. I don't
43:42
Speaker 12: trust on us at all, I don't trust the people
43:44
Speaker 12: behind them. I'm hopeful.
43:47
Speaker 3: I'm hopeful, Yeah, hopeful, indeed.
43:49
Speaker 2: And it's an ultimatum either way, isn't it, Carolina.
43:52
Speaker 3: They must know their toast, so they either lie that
43:54
Speaker 3: laid down their arms, or die fighting.
43:58
Speaker 13: Well, it appears that it has got to that point.
44:01
Speaker 13: What would be really interesting, I think, Chris, and you know,
44:05
Speaker 13: a really important part of whether this peace deal does
44:08
Speaker 13: happen is the conversations that happened between the Arab States
44:11
Speaker 13: and Hamas, Because if Qatar winds back its support for
44:17
Speaker 13: Hamas and other Arab states do, then it becomes very,
44:19
Speaker 13: very difficult for them to continue to operate, regardless of
44:24
Speaker 13: you know, whatever ideological or you know, you know, self
44:28
Speaker 13: serving views they may take. So like gem Or, I'm hopeful,
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Speaker 13: but you never know until the deals are done.
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Speaker 2: But I know that you know, we.
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Speaker 13: Really want to see those really want to see those
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Speaker 13: hostages come home, and if they all come home at once,
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Speaker 13: that would just be amazing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to see that as soon as possible.
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Speaker 3: Let's get on to the Liberal Party. What a mess
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Speaker 3: and Gemma, No sooner does Andrew Hasty take a principal
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Speaker 3: stand saying I can't do the job you've asked me
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Speaker 3: to do, so I'll go out and suddenly there we're
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Speaker 3: going to against him.
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Speaker 12: I mean, I'm just a humble voter, Chris. I feel
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Speaker 12: like Julia Robertson notting Hill standing in front of Hugh
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Speaker 12: Grant going, I'm just a girl standing in front of
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Speaker 12: a boy asking her to love, asking him to love her.
45:11
Speaker 12: I'm just a voter standing in front of her party saying,
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Speaker 12: get your proverbial together and give me something to vote for.
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Speaker 12: What I think the Liberal Party has lost sight of,
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Speaker 12: with all greatest respect to my learned friend in the West. There,
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Speaker 12: they've lost sight of the fact that we voters don't
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Speaker 12: care about factions. We don't care about your egos, we
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Speaker 12: don't care about.
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Speaker 9: Your in fighting.
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Speaker 12: We want good policy. We want a party we can
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Speaker 12: be proud of. We want a party we can vote
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Speaker 12: for I do not care about this leaking. And my
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Speaker 12: question to the Liberal Party would be, how much more
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Speaker 12: pain are you wanting to go through and, by extension,
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Speaker 12: expecting us to go through before you put some discipline
45:46
Speaker 12: in place.
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Speaker 9: Get on with it and pour yourself together.
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Speaker 3: That was probably the most popular, the most brilliant popular
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Speaker 3: culture analogy ever. But I'm not good at the Monstone.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 3: If you go, viewers will be all over I'm so
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Speaker 3: bad at that popular culture stuff.
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Speaker 2: Carolina.
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Speaker 3: As a Liberal Party official, you must be so frustrated.
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Speaker 3: What Jemma just said was exactly what voters expect. Give
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Speaker 3: us what you got, don't fight amongst yourselves.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I wish I was.
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Speaker 13: Well, I am in a sense of bystander because I'm
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Speaker 13: not in the party room, but I'm not just a
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Speaker 13: humble voter when it comes to something like this. Look,
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Speaker 13: I appreciate that after elections there's always a period of turbulence, right,
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Speaker 13: and for me, I would just really like whatever whatever
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Speaker 13: needs to happen within the party room, just happen, and
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Speaker 13: let's get on with it. Lance the boil and I
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Speaker 13: know net zero is probably the big the biggest boil
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Speaker 13: that needs to be lanced. Have that conversation, get it
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Speaker 13: done with, and wherever the chips fall, that's where they fall.
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Speaker 13: And then can we all just please get on with
46:53
Speaker 13: it because it's incredibly frustrating, And particularly Chris, I do
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Speaker 13: a lot of a lot of corporate engagement and donor
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Speaker 13: engagement and that sort of thing, and donors and the
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Speaker 13: corporates and voters. They want to know what we are
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Speaker 13: going to do. They want to know what the plan
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Speaker 13: is and what the strategy is. They don't want us
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Speaker 13: talk about themselves, and I hate talking about us. I
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Speaker 13: get really bored of it, really really quickly. But unfortunately
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Speaker 13: it has taken over things a little bit at the moment.
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Speaker 13: We're not quite through it yet. But you know, again,
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Speaker 13: I'm not in the party room, and I like to
47:27
Speaker 13: stick to my needing in the organization. The only thing
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Speaker 13: that I would say is, whatever you know, conversations need
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Speaker 13: to be had, have them now, do it quickly, do
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Speaker 13: it internally, do it quietly, and then just get on
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Speaker 13: with it.
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Speaker 2: Get on with it, for crying out loud, get on
47:41
Speaker 2: with it. Now.
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Speaker 3: Let me share with you both some common sense and
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Speaker 3: some idiocy. First, and then some uncommon common sense. First,
47:49
Speaker 3: here's some idiocy from Greta Tumburg. I showed you earlier
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Speaker 3: after the Israelis intercepted that flotilla.
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Speaker 8: My name is given to Leona's citizen of Sweden. If
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Speaker 8: you are watching this video, I have been subduncted and
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Speaker 8: taken against my will by Israeli forces. Our humanitarian mission
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Speaker 8: was nonviolence and abiding my international law.
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Speaker 3: And now some common sense in response from a bloke
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Speaker 3: in Sweden.
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Speaker 14: My name is ju Jakim la Motte and I'm a
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Speaker 14: Swedish citizen. If you see this video, Gretatunbar has been
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Speaker 14: abducted by Israeli forces, and I have a message from
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Speaker 14: the Swedish people to the Israeli government. Please keep her
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Speaker 14: ah so good.
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Speaker 12: I mean, she's just like an annoying little She's just
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Speaker 12: an annoying little brad, isn't she. I mean that just
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Speaker 12: screams look at me, give me all of the attention.
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Speaker 12: We now know that there wasn't any aid on those ships,
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Speaker 12: all right, that's been widely reported. She she is you know,
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Speaker 12: I don't know her as a person, and I'm trying
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Speaker 12: to stick it to her behavior. But if ever there
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Speaker 12: was someone screaming I have narcissistic personality disorder or something similar.
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Speaker 12: Look at me, look at me. It's all about me.
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Speaker 2: There it is, and so sickening.
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Speaker 12: Had to let the boat, just let it get there.
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Speaker 3: So sickening to think she's pretending to be abducted when
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Speaker 3: they're a real hostage is still.
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Speaker 2: In harm's way.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Carolina and genmen. We'll catch up
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Speaker 3: with you next week. Just time for a little bit
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Speaker 3: of your feedback about that Palestinian or anti Israel protest
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Speaker 3: that was planned for the Opera House.
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Speaker 2: We'll see what happened to.
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Speaker 3: Sam says the Opera House should be cordoned off by police.
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Speaker 3: National icons are off limits, and other viewers's protest for
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Speaker 3: what Humus won't accept the deal protest against them, and
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Speaker 3: Bromwin says, I'm totally sick of this nonsense going on
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Speaker 3: in Australia. The disgraceful chanting, the hatred of the Jewish
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Speaker 3: people should be totally unacceptable.
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining me.
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Speaker 3: I'll be back tomorrow for a special program on the
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Speaker 3: two year anniversary of October the seventh, and plenty happening
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Speaker 3: in national politics tomorrow too.
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Speaker 2: Here's Peter