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- 0:00Speaker 1: Imagine for a second that you commit like the perfect
- 0:03Speaker 1: murder in the middle of a vast, unforgiving mountain range.
- 0:07Speaker 1: You hide the bodies in the deep earth, You push
- 0:09Speaker 1: the victing's vehicles off a huge cliff and a heavy timber,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and you steal the security cameras. Right.
- 0:15Speaker 2: You think you have completely defeated the.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Wilderness exactly, but then you are totally undone by a
- 0:23Speaker 1: crumpled McDonald's receipt and a smart phone pedometer silently counting
- 0:26Speaker 1: steps in a dead man's pocket.
- 0:28Speaker 2: It is just wild. I mean, it's the ultimate collision
- 0:31Speaker 2: of isolation and modern technology. We're looking at the Cascade
- 0:34Speaker 2: Mountains in western Washington today.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Yes, specifically, the area is shadowed by the twenty fourteen
- 0:38Speaker 1: oh So landslide, right.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And that landslide was a horrific natural disaster
- 0:44Speaker 2: that wiped out an entire mountain side, burying homes and
- 0:47Speaker 2: just leaving this massive, permanent scar carved into the earth.
- 0:51Speaker 2: The woods out there are dense, the quiet is really heavy.
- 0:54Speaker 1: So if someone wants to make a problem disappear, that
- 0:57Speaker 1: landscape gives them a terrifying advantage. The wilderness can based
- 1:00Speaker 1: swallow a crime scene hole.
- 1:01Speaker 2: It can, but the truth doesn't just vanish because you know,
- 1:04Speaker 2: microscopic errors always get left behind.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Which brings us to the mission of today's deep dive.
- 1:09Speaker 1: We're exploring a really chilling true story where that rugged
- 1:13Speaker 1: terrain hit a double murder. But this isn't just about.
- 1:16Speaker 2: A crime, No, it's a masterclass in how tiny details
- 1:19Speaker 2: unravel a grand cover up. I want you to step
- 1:22Speaker 2: into the shoes of a homicide detective on day one
- 1:25Speaker 2: of a baffling disappearance. You have to rely on this
- 1:29Speaker 2: weird tension between digital ghosts and human error.
- 1:32Speaker 1: It's like trying to solve a jigsaw puzzle where half
- 1:35Speaker 1: the pieces are buried under a mountain and the picture
- 1:37Speaker 1: in the box is just a total lie.
- 1:39Speaker 2: That is a great way to put it.
- 1:40Speaker 1: So the timeline begins on April twelve, twenty sixteen. The
- 1:44Speaker 1: victims are Patrick Shun and Monique patent Nod, and by
- 1:48Speaker 1: all accounts, they lived a really beautiful life. They actually
- 1:50Speaker 1: met at burning Man.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Oh wow.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Yeah. They were fiercely devoted to each other and they
- 1:53Speaker 1: ran this peaceful little hobby farm right by the river.
- 1:57Speaker 1: They raised animals, love the outdoors, just living their dream.
- 2:01Speaker 1: But then suddenly the farm goes completely silent, and.
- 2:04Speaker 2: That silence was the very first red flag for their
- 2:06Speaker 2: inner circle.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Right on the night of April eleventh, Patrick and Monique
- 2:11Speaker 1: were supposed to go to an Iron Maiden concert with
- 2:13Speaker 1: their close friends Mike and Suzanne, but they never show up.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Which is weird enough on its own.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the next day, Patrick misses his shift
- 2:22Speaker 1: at work, so Mike drives over to check on them,
- 2:25Speaker 1: and he finds their beloved dog, Cairo, just running loose
- 2:28Speaker 1: outside the house.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Which, for people who worship their animals the way they did,
- 2:32Speaker 2: a loose dog is a massive anomaly totally.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Mike is unsettled enough that he immediately checks the trail
- 2:38Speaker 1: camera at the front gate, hoping to see who came
- 2:41Speaker 1: on the property. He pulls the SD card and just
- 2:43Speaker 1: hands it straight to the cops.
- 2:44Speaker 2: But that turned out to be a dead end, right.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Yeah, incredibly frustrating. The card was totally full, it had
- 2:50Speaker 1: stopped recording long before any of this even happened, and
- 2:53Speaker 1: when police sweep the property, they realized the couple's vehicles,
- 2:57Speaker 1: a land Rover and a jeep, are both gone.
- 3:00Speaker 2: So that's the initial puzzle. How do you interpret that? Absence.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Wait, I got to ask, though, if you see two
- 3:05Speaker 1: cars missing in an empty house, what did your first
- 3:08Speaker 1: instinct just be that they went on a spontaneous weekend trip?
- 3:11Speaker 1: Why panic immediately?
- 3:13Speaker 2: You might think that, sure, but the dog running loose
- 3:16Speaker 2: completely shatters that theory. You don't abandon your pet to
- 3:19Speaker 2: go off the grid for a few days.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Ah. Right, that makes sense.
- 3:23Speaker 2: And the detectives felt the exact same way. That broken
- 3:26Speaker 2: pattern prompted them to pull expedited cell phone records for
- 3:29Speaker 2: the couple, and the digital footprint they found it killed
- 3:32Speaker 2: the vacation theory instantly.
- 3:34Speaker 1: The data from April eleventh paints a super strange picture.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Monique's phone gets home at eleven zero four am and
- 3:40Speaker 1: Patrick's phone gets there at three zero seven pm, And
- 3:44Speaker 1: after that, both phones just stay motionless on the property
- 3:47Speaker 1: for hours.
- 3:48Speaker 2: While messages from friends and family are just pouring in.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Right, and the network data shows the read receipts triggering
- 3:54Speaker 1: like the messages is being opened, but nobody is typing
- 3:57Speaker 1: a reply.
- 3:58Speaker 2: So someone is staring at the screens, but it definitely
- 4:00Speaker 2: isn't Patrick or Monique. And then that weird stillness is
- 4:03Speaker 2: followed by movement that sends a total chill down the
- 4:05Speaker 2: investigator's spines.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Yeah, at three two six am, under total darkness, both
- 4:10Speaker 1: phones travel together up this desolate logging road deep into
- 4:14Speaker 1: the landslide zone, and then the signals just vanish.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Because nobody goes up a treacherous logging road at three
- 4:19Speaker 2: in the morning.
- 4:20Speaker 1: For fun exactly. So if the digital trail leads up
- 4:23Speaker 1: the mountain, the physical hunt has to follow. The terrain
- 4:27Speaker 1: is so wild, they coordinate a helicopter search. Just picture
- 4:31Speaker 1: looking down at this vast green ocean of Washington timber,
- 4:35Speaker 1: looking for one anomaly.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Until they catch a flash of metal.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Yeah, they find Patrick's land rover, but it is dangling precariously,
- 4:43Speaker 1: completely nosed down, balanced on a stump over a ninety
- 4:47Speaker 1: degree cliff face.
- 4:48Speaker 2: It's terrifying just picturing that.
- 4:49Speaker 1: And it gets weirder. Someone draped a camo tarp over
- 4:52Speaker 1: it and wedged a four x four wooden post underneath
- 4:55Speaker 1: it like a makeshift jack to push it over the edge.
- 4:58Speaker 1: And then two hundred and sixty eight feet straight down
- 5:00Speaker 1: that cliff resting in the brush is Monique's jeep.
- 5:03Speaker 2: So the search team's repelling down must be assuming they're
- 5:06Speaker 2: about to make a grim discovery, right, like the bodies
- 5:08Speaker 2: have to be in those cars, that's.
- 5:09Speaker 1: What they thought. They pry open the land rover and
- 5:12Speaker 1: the seats are empty, but there's blood pooled in the back,
- 5:15Speaker 1: heavy rope tarps and shell casings.
- 5:18Speaker 2: So a violent scene but no victims, right.
- 5:21Speaker 1: And then in Monique's jeep at the bottom they find
- 5:23Speaker 1: her wallet, bags of dog and chicken feed, a bloody
- 5:26Speaker 1: shopping list, and this is the crazy part, a crumpled McDonald's.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Receipt, and that one piece of trash becomes the entire
- 5:34Speaker 2: foundation of the homicide investigation.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Because it had a timestamp April eleventh, ten four one am.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Detectives go straight to that McDonald's, pull the drive through
- 5:44Speaker 1: video for that exact minute, and there is Monique sitting
- 5:47Speaker 1: in her jeep paying for her food with Cairo, the
- 5:50Speaker 1: dog in the passenger seat.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Which perfectly sinks with her phone data showing her arriving
- 5:55Speaker 2: at the gate at eleven o four am. But since
- 5:58Speaker 2: the groceries and animal feed were still in the jeep
- 6:00Speaker 2: at the bottom of a cliff, the forensics tell a
- 6:03Speaker 2: very dark story.
- 6:04Speaker 1: She made it to her gate, but she never made
- 6:07Speaker 1: it inside.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Her house exactly the blood, the shell casings, the untouched groceries.
- 6:11Speaker 2: It all proves they were ambushed the second they arrived
- 6:13Speaker 2: at their property line, which narrows the focus intensely. Who
- 6:17Speaker 2: was waiting for them at their own date.
- 6:18Speaker 1: We have to introduce a neighbor named John Reid. After
- 6:22Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen landslide, John's property, which bordered Patrick and Monique's,
- 6:27Speaker 1: was condemned. He took a massive FEMA payout, but the
- 6:31Speaker 1: deal was he had to permanently leave the dangerous land.
- 6:33Speaker 2: But he took the money and stayed anyway.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Yep. He basically became a heavily armed squatter and he
- 6:39Speaker 1: kept using a shared road easement that was Patrick and
- 6:42Speaker 1: Monique's driveway. The friction escalated super fast, locked gates, illegal logging,
- 6:48Speaker 1: police getting called all the time.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Have you ever had a dispute with a neighbor? Oh?
- 6:51Speaker 1: Sure, we all have.
- 6:53Speaker 2: Right a fence line, debate a loud dog, You naturally
- 6:56Speaker 2: assume the person across the fence is rational. Patrick and
- 6:59Speaker 2: Monique thought thought they were dealing with a stubborn nuisance.
- 7:02Speaker 2: They had no idea John Reid was actually lethal.
- 7:04Speaker 1: It's like the boiling frog scenario, or like a stress
- 7:07Speaker 1: tracture in a foundation, you see a tiny crack, assume
- 7:10Speaker 1: its normal wear and tear, and you don't realize the
- 7:11Speaker 1: whole building is compromised until the roof literally caves in.
- 7:15Speaker 2: That is exactly what this was. A lethal situation simmering slowly.
- 7:19Speaker 1: But Suzanne, the friend who reported the missing, she sensed
- 7:22Speaker 1: the danger instantly. A few days after they vanished, she
- 7:26Speaker 1: drove up to the property line and she sees John
- 7:29Speaker 1: Reid and his violent felon brother Tony leaving the victim's
- 7:33Speaker 1: gate in a red truck.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Suzanne is an amazing citizen detective here. She didn't just wave.
- 7:39Speaker 2: She pulled out her phone and secretly filmed them.
- 7:42Speaker 1: And when police watched that video, they zoomed in on
- 7:45Speaker 1: the truck bed. Sitting right there is a heavy four
- 7:48Speaker 1: by four wooden post and thick steel cables.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Which perfectly matches the makeshift jack at the crime scene
- 7:55Speaker 2: on the cliff that gave them the probable cause for
- 7:57Speaker 2: a massive search warrant on John's property.
- 8:00Speaker 1: What they find is creepy empty underground bunkers that used
- 8:03Speaker 1: to be weed grow rooms, blood in the bathtub, and
- 8:05Speaker 1: a barrel in the garage filled with clothes soaking in
- 8:08Speaker 1: diesel fuel.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Which is a stark contrast to Patrick em Monique's house.
- 8:11Speaker 2: When they search the victim's home, it's spotless, no struggle.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Only two things are missing or out of place.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Patrick's computer is gone and on the kitchen floor the
- 8:21Speaker 1: raw cat bowl was used to feed their cat. Now, wait,
- 8:23Speaker 1: I got to stop you here, in the middle of
- 8:25Speaker 1: a massive double homicide, why does a mismatched cat bowl
- 8:30Speaker 1: even matter? Isn't that just a meaningless detail?
- 8:33Speaker 2: You think so, But it breaks down the killer's incredibly
- 8:36Speaker 2: disorganized psychology. Think about it. He murders them at the gate,
- 8:41Speaker 2: adrenaline is rushing, and he spots the trail camera.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Oh, and he realizes he might be on video.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Right, he doesn't know the SD cart is full. He
- 8:48Speaker 2: assumes it uploads wirelessly to the house computer. So covered
- 8:52Speaker 2: in blood, he breaks into the house to steal the computer.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Okay, that part makes logical sense for a cover up.
- 8:58Speaker 2: But while he's in there, in the middle of hiding
- 9:00Speaker 2: a double murder, he hears a hungry cat meowing, and bizarrely,
- 9:04Speaker 2: he just stops what he's doing to feed it, grabs
- 9:07Speaker 2: the first bowl he sees. It shows a mind that
- 9:09Speaker 2: is violently erratic, jumping from cold blooded murder to domestic
- 9:13Speaker 2: caretaking in an instant wow.
- 9:16Speaker 1: That is deeply unsettling. So with the physical evidence piling up,
- 9:20Speaker 1: the brothers realize they're caught. They flee to Phoenix, then
- 9:23Speaker 1: cross into Mexico, funded by their parents, who drained their
- 9:26Speaker 1: bank accounts for them, but.
- 9:27Speaker 2: The pressure of being fugitives fractures their alliance.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Yeah, Washington State had a moratorium on executions at the time,
- 9:34Speaker 1: and Tony realizes he might avoid the death penalty if
- 9:37Speaker 1: he flips, so on day thirty five, he surrenders and
- 9:41Speaker 1: tells police everything.
- 9:43Speaker 2: He details this gruesome, calculated ambush. He claims he just
- 9:46Speaker 2: helped clean up, but says John ambush. Monique then waited
- 9:49Speaker 2: four entire hours for Patrick to get home and shot
- 9:52Speaker 2: him in the back of the head.
- 9:53Speaker 1: So cold, Tony leads them out into the woods to
- 9:56Speaker 1: a muddy spring where they toss the phones, and then
- 9:59Speaker 1: to a shallow grin under an uprooted tree where the
- 10:02Speaker 1: couple was buried. They were actually found seemingly cuddling recovering bodies.
- 10:06Speaker 2: There is incredibly taxing, not just the terrain, but the
- 10:09Speaker 2: media presence was insane news choppers were swarming.
- 10:13Speaker 1: The disrespect of those helicopters circling was awful. So Detective
- 10:18Speaker 1: Defont Knot pulls off this brilliant trick away from the grave.
- 10:21Speaker 1: He lays out a blue tarp and a clearing and
- 10:23Speaker 1: meticulously arranges a row of sticks on it from smallest
- 10:26Speaker 1: to the largest.
- 10:27Speaker 2: It looked like crucial forensic evidence from the air exactly.
- 10:30Speaker 1: The news cameras all zoomed in on these random sticks,
- 10:33Speaker 1: completely distracted while the team recovered the bodies with dignity
- 10:36Speaker 1: under the tree canopy.
- 10:38Speaker 2: That is just brilliant, and it highlights the contrast between
- 10:40Speaker 2: the smart investigators and the sheer cognitive breakdown of the killers.
- 10:45Speaker 2: Remember those clothes soaking in diesel fuel?
- 10:48Speaker 1: Right, Tony said, they went to the garage, stripped off
- 10:50Speaker 1: their bloody clothes and doused them in diesel to burn
- 10:53Speaker 1: the DNA, But they never lit the match. Why leave it?
- 10:57Speaker 2: Adrenaline dump The amygdala hijacks the brain. Under stress, they
- 11:02Speaker 2: remember the broad plan destroy clothes with fuel, but the
- 11:05Speaker 2: fine detail of actually lighting it was totally wiped from
- 11:08Speaker 2: their working memory.
- 11:09Speaker 1: And it gets dumber. Before they stripped off those clothes
- 11:12Speaker 1: right in the middle of the cover up. They decided
- 11:14Speaker 1: they were hungry.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Oh this is the craziest part.
- 11:16Speaker 1: They drive to a seven to eleven at midnight to
- 11:18Speaker 1: buy energy drinks, wearing the exact same bloody clothes they
- 11:22Speaker 1: were about to soak in diesel, caught on high def
- 11:26Speaker 1: security cameras with the time stamped receipt.
- 11:28Speaker 2: They planned a murder in the woods, but completely forgot
- 11:30Speaker 2: about the surveillance state they live in.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Unbelievable. So Tony's in custody, but John is a ghost
- 11:37Speaker 1: until day one hundred. He gets captured outside a barber
- 11:40Speaker 1: shop in Porta Panasco, Mexico, and when brought to trial,
- 11:43Speaker 1: he pulls a desperate card. He claims self defense.
- 11:46Speaker 2: He testifies that Patrick and Monique arrived together, pulled guns
- 11:50Speaker 2: on him, and he had to shoot them in a
- 11:51Speaker 2: synchronized fight.
- 11:52Speaker 1: But if there are no living witnesses, how do investigators
- 11:55Speaker 1: definitively prove to a jury it wasn't self defense.
- 11:59Speaker 2: That is where where the ultimate digital trump card comes in.
- 12:02Speaker 2: The Apple Health app data from the victim's phones.
- 12:05Speaker 1: The ones pulled from the MUDs.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Yes, your phone's internal pedometer doesn't need a cell tower.
- 12:09Speaker 2: It logs your physical steps locally, and the data showed
- 12:12Speaker 2: Monique's phone permanently stopped moving at exactly eleven point aero seven.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Am, just minutes after the drive through, right.
- 12:19Speaker 2: While Patrick's health app recorded movement all day until three
- 12:22Speaker 2: points er seven pm. This irrefutable digital footprint proves scientifically
- 12:26Speaker 2: they died four hours apart, completely destroying John's synchronized ambush.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Lie Wow, and John Reid is convicted of aggravated first
- 12:34Speaker 1: degree and second degree murder. It brings closure, though obviously
- 12:38Speaker 1: it doesn't prow him back. Their family shared such touching
- 12:41Speaker 1: memories like Monique raising baby sheep inside their.
- 12:44Speaker 2: House and Patrick putting potatoes in his niece's Christmas stockings
- 12:48Speaker 2: as a joke.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Yeah, that niece actually got a tattoo honoring Detective font
- 12:52Speaker 1: Nod's mantra from The Manhunt, The Truth Never Dies.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Which perfectly sums it up. A perfectly planned cover up
- 12:59Speaker 2: in the wild, undone by microscopic human errors, a McDonald's receipt,
- 13:03Speaker 2: a'm yowing kat and a pedometer, which leaves.
- 13:06Speaker 1: You with this final thought. We all leave a silent
- 13:09Speaker 1: digital shadow every second of the day. It brought justice here,
- 13:13Speaker 1: But ask yourself as you walk through your life today.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Who else might be reading this story. Your devices are
- 13:17Speaker 1: silently writing about you.