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Stephen Keech: Haste the Day | Furnace Fest 2024 Series · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Five words.
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  Speaker 2: Five Words's all it moday.
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  Speaker 1: Five words to change your heart mind in the heat
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  Speaker 1: of this.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're the only one.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: You still can't out.
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  Speaker 3: Down Down.
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  Speaker 4: Today, we've got Stephen from hat to Day super soaked
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  Speaker 4: about this.
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  Speaker 2: Stephen.
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  Speaker 4: Hast to Day has been a band that I've been
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  Speaker 4: listening to for oh god, how long now, like at
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  Speaker 4: least twenty years, more than that even maybe, man or yeah,
• 0:41
  Speaker 4: about twenty years, i'd say, because I remember even before
• 0:44
  Speaker 4: you got in the band, you know, I was listening
• 0:45
  Speaker 4: to all the stuff that Jimmy was putting out. I
• 0:47
  Speaker 4: still remember watching Steel Roots and seeing the closest thing
• 0:51
  Speaker 4: the closure music video, uh you know where it almost
• 0:54
  Speaker 4: is sort of like this like high school like open
• 0:57
  Speaker 4: mic or whatever it is. I don't know what they're trying,
• 0:59
  Speaker 4: what they concepted they were trying to do, but anyway,
• 1:01
  Speaker 4: I still remember seeing that on Steel Roots and then
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  Speaker 4: obviously just fell in love with Hasty Day from that
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  Speaker 4: point on, fell in love with your kind of version
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  Speaker 4: of Hasty Today once you entered the band. But anyway,
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  Speaker 4: we'll talk about all hast to Day stuff, But before
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  Speaker 4: we get into that, how are you doing today, Steven?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm doing great. Thank you so much for having
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  Speaker 2: me on. This is awesome. It's it's good to chat
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  Speaker 2: with you boys.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I got to say that you're for all
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  Speaker 3: the visual watchers of the podcast, you have one of
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  Speaker 3: the most comforting setups I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thank you. Yeah nice. Uh yeah, I've got
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  Speaker 2: a studio here. I'm a composer by trade, so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've got instruments all around me. I've got my piano
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  Speaker 2: over here, which I do a lot of work at.
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  Speaker 4: And you got the little practical light behind you too.
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  Speaker 4: You've got like a YouTube setup.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. That is that a strata varius I spot up
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  Speaker 3: there too.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, that is a broken violin that I still use.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: But I am horrible at violin. It's it. It looks
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: about as good as it sounds, and it sounds a
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  Speaker 2: lot worse than it looks when I put it. But
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: there's cool things like melodine, auto tune and a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of reverbs.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, a lot of mistakes.
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  Speaker 4: If you can, if you can make my voice sound good,
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  Speaker 4: then you definitely are able to like use all that
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  Speaker 4: you know, you've been using all the technology available to
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  Speaker 4: you to make my voice sound good.
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  Speaker 2: That's how there's a lot out there. I mean, now,
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  Speaker 2: now you know, I'm I'm really looking into AI to
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  Speaker 2: just replace my voice entirely, because there you go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen like programs. Right, you could just like
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  Speaker 4: say a sentence and then it just like figures it
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  Speaker 4: out for you.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of musicians are terrified of it, but you
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  Speaker 2: know what, I'm just gonna use it just to replace myself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and then I can go hang out. Right.
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  Speaker 4: You don't even have to lip sync on stage anymore.
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  Speaker 4: You can just do it in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put a laptop on a stool and
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  Speaker 2: just like put a microphone up to it and then
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  Speaker 2: press the AI button. That's how it works, right, right, Steven. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: this is a funny I got. I heard of some
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  Speaker 2: AI program, Like three or four people texted it to
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  Speaker 2: me the other day, all trying to get my opinion
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  Speaker 2: on it, and I hadn't really played around with it.
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  Speaker 2: But I did go into it and I typed in
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  Speaker 2: write a song in the style of Hase the Day
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  Speaker 2: and it was pretty freaky. Was it good?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: But it was. It was interesting. It was like they
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  Speaker 2: kind of it kind of got it. It kind of understood.
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  Speaker 2: There was definitely like some screaming vocals. It couldn't figure
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  Speaker 2: out which kind of hardcore we were or like hardcore
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: or metal metal or so like just kept trying different things.
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  Speaker 2: Like one of them would be like super butt rock,
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  Speaker 2: and then the other one would be like beat down hardcore,
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  Speaker 2: which was really interesting that it even knew how to
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: make beat down hardcore music right, Like it sounded like
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  Speaker 2: an old face Down Records band.
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  Speaker 4: Oh did it sound like what has today probably sounded
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  Speaker 4: like when it first got together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually there was a little bit of that like
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  Speaker 2: ep in there, a little bit maybe vocally, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was pretty freaky and uh interesting but.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, totally unrelated question. But knowing you guys are from Indiana,
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  Speaker 4: uh and are you are you one of those guys
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  Speaker 4: that are also from Indiana?
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  Speaker 2: I know you're not.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, maybe you don't have any opinions about this.
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  Speaker 4: And also I hate that Apple has this thing now
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  Speaker 4: where if you like, oh that is cool.
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  Speaker 2: Wait can you do that? Can I do that?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 4: No, it's I think look at that. Yeah, I just
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  Speaker 4: hate that. Like, but every now and then, like I'll
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  Speaker 4: have my like, you know, hands like this or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: and it just assumes that that's a cover.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, is one of the best.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can mine do that? Oh yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 4: I think I also can do Is it gonna do it?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: There we go?
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  Speaker 4: What and then I can do see if it does this?
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  Speaker 4: I have to be closer. Well, the funny thing is
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  Speaker 4: this camera is not the actual like Apple camera. I'm
• 5:21
  Speaker 4: using a camera that's like an external camera and Apple
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  Speaker 4: is still able to like figure that out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm using my iPhone and it's not doing anything that
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  Speaker 2: is odd.
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  Speaker 4: It should do it with a kN iPhone. But anyway, Well,
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  Speaker 4: I was going to ask you. You know, Indiana won
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  Speaker 4: the Caitlin Clark Sweepstakes. And I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 4: been paying attention to women's basketball at all, but like
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  Speaker 4: kind of a big deal that Indiana was able to
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  Speaker 4: draft probably at least at this point, maybe one of
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  Speaker 4: the most famous basketball players in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Uh and met women.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, men or women?
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  Speaker 4: She is Actually I saw something today that she I mean,
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  Speaker 4: she just was drafted like last week, so he's not
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  Speaker 4: even been in Indiana, Pacer for more than a week.
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  Speaker 4: A week she has sold more jerseys now already a
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  Speaker 4: week a week later than the entire Dallas Cowboys team
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  Speaker 4: had all together last year.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: She's that popular. So anyway, I thought maybe from Indiana,
• 6:17
  Speaker 4: maybe you had some thoughts, because it does feel like
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna, you know, give a little boost to Indianapolis
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  Speaker 4: in particular. But but if you're not, you probably don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't. I don't, but I care for her.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that that's awesome. That's great, that's
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  Speaker 2: a huge accomplishment. I'm not really a sports person. I've
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  Speaker 2: always tried, like I've tried so hard to get into football.
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  Speaker 2: I just I just get sidetracked and uninteresting.
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  Speaker 4: I mean especially but if you're a Titans fan, you know,
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  Speaker 4: or if you're you know, you're in Nashville, so being
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: a Titans fan, there's no there's no better way to
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  Speaker 4: not get into football than yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, okay, So I moved around a ton when
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: I was a kid. So I was born You mentioned
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  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboy. I was born in Dallas, moved around, lived
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: in Chicago during the Bulls dynasty, which was actually probably
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  Speaker 2: the height of my sports enthusiasm.
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  Speaker 3: Did you have the Bulls starter jacket that everyone had.
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  Speaker 2: No I was poor, so I didn't have that kind
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  Speaker 2: of cool stuff. But I do remember, like, this is
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  Speaker 2: kind of a sweet memory. I remember my dad went
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  Speaker 2: to a bulls game and he took me to several later,
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  Speaker 2: but I remember I like was excited for him to
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  Speaker 2: go to because you know Michael Jordan, he was like
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  Speaker 2: a god to people. It was just wild. And so
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  Speaker 2: he was at this bulls game and he came home
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  Speaker 2: and he had he bought a towel, like a bull's
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  Speaker 2: towel and laid it on my bed when I was asleep,
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  Speaker 2: and woke up with this bulls towel in my bed,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, this is the coolest thing ever.
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  Speaker 2: So that was. Yeah, that was the height of my
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  Speaker 2: sports enthusiasm. But then moved to Georgia, back to Exes,
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  Speaker 2: and then ended up in Denver, Colorado, where oh I
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  Speaker 2: did most of my formative growing up wow, and then
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  Speaker 2: ended up in Indie after I joined the band.
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  Speaker 3: Right, you're just getting all the biomes, all the American.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I mean it was interesting to live in
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  Speaker 2: all different climates and and even different people, Like the
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  Speaker 2: people in all of those different places are completely separate.
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  Speaker 4: You basically were on tour as a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, I was actually thinking about it. I
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  Speaker 2: have two older sisters, and I didn't go to even
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  Speaker 2: one school with either of them because they were just
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  Speaker 2: old enough to where when I was in elementary school,
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  Speaker 2: they were in middle school, and we'd move before I'd
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  Speaker 2: get to that middle school all the way up through
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  Speaker 2: high school.
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  Speaker 3: And what caused the what caused the moving so often?
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  Speaker 2: My dad's a pastor, and yeah, uh, we were just
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  Speaker 2: following the call. You know.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting, what what denomination was he?
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  Speaker 2: A pastor of non a nominational? Okay, I know that's
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  Speaker 2: a really broad spectrum. I would say that it was
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: somewhere kind of in the charismatic. Uh maybe in the
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: if Hillsong was a small church, not quite as damaging.
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  Speaker 2: Uh it used to be a smaller church, right, No,
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  Speaker 2: like we're talking about a really small church.
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  Speaker 3: So you're saying that your dad's a really a really
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: hot dude, That is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Hillsong is hot dudes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all hot dudes up on stage. Give
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  Speaker 3: a word.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's he's an attractive man.
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  Speaker 3: But well you are so, I mean, obviously the apple
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  Speaker 3: doesn't fall far from the trees, so makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, smoking hot wife. But yeah, so yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we moved around a lot, and I don't know, I
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  Speaker 2: kind of liked that I moved around a lot. Taught
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  Speaker 2: me a lot of social skills.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I would have to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean unless you just like wanted to
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: be stuck inside all day.
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  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Well, let's you know that.
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  Speaker 3: There's a good segue there, you know, moving around all
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  Speaker 3: this time, you finally get to put down some roots
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  Speaker 3: and you start a band. I assume there's other bands
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: before hast to Day, or was hast Day the first
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: the first scene started. Now.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: I started a band when I was a freshman in
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  Speaker 2: high school called New Day Awakening, and it was with
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Dave Krisol, who is the guitar player of Hays Today,
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  Speaker 2: And we started out as kind of like an emo band.
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  Speaker 2: And of course before that, I tried several times to
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: start bands and all of those failed. Just like everybody
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  Speaker 2: else in the world world, I had a I had
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: a band named Spork. I feel like that was like.
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: A that was that a thing, like the name of
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: your band Spork.
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  Speaker 2: I've met so many people who were like oh, I
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: had a band named Spork. It was like, I don't know, why.
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: Were they all like SKA bands or what?
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: Like? What?
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was probably that was what I was into,
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  Speaker 2: like ska and pop punk, like but all Christian scott
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: and pop punk back then, and right, Spork was quirky
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: enough of the name to fit the bill, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: So we never got that. We never actually practiced. We
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: just talked about T shirt designs.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly how it always starts. I had a
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: band like that starting off as well, and we call
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: ourselves Incubus. Oh, not knowing about Incubus, and I was like,
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: that's a good name that was taken. I was like,
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: they're probably not that good anyway, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 1: I did.
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  Speaker 2: When I was looking for new names, I did highly
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: consider penny Wise. And then I realized and no, I
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: had not ever seen it. I just had heard the
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: name Pennywise somewhere and forgotten that I heard it. And
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: then I was like, yeah, that's a great name for
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: a band. And then yeah, somebody was like, dude, that's
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: already that's already a band. You can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of a legendary one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pretty legendary. So so yeah, ended up calling
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  Speaker 2: it New Day Awakening. We played lots of shows. We
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: started out as a four piece and just really went
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: for it and in Denver, and by the time we
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: were juniors in high school, we had went from we
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: had gone from like full on emo rock to like
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  Speaker 2: metalcore and just I I quit playing guitar and somebody
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: else took over for that and I just was running
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: around on stage screaming into a microphone. So and we
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: were playing quite a bit and playing around Denver and
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: we had a really I mean that time in Denver
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: was such an amazing scene. The local scene, like from
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: I guess that would have been from like two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and to to I mean probably even after, and I
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: hear it's still amazing today. But it was so tight
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  Speaker 2: knit and we knew so many bands that were all
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  Speaker 2: doing the same things and even doing things for the
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: same reason that we were doing it, and it was
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: just an amazing community. There were everybody had like a venue,
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  Speaker 2: like we're playing at people's houses, or we're playing at
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: like weird places like Tim's net Guru Cafe where we
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: can set up in the middle of this weird Internet
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: cafe because that was still a thing back then, and
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  Speaker 2: just have a great show and kids would show up
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  Speaker 2: to it. It was amazing. And that's how we ended
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: up start. We played with Haste the Day a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times. That's how they ended up scooping me up
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  Speaker 2: and kind of stealing me from from all my best friends.
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  Speaker 4: Well before we get into like you joining in Haste today,
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  Speaker 4: I do want to know, especially as somebody who professionally
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  Speaker 4: screamed for a time like that, like you think back of, like,
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: you know, some of my first jobs, and I'm like,
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: you know what, you know whatever, Like I was an
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: umpire for the Heights, you know, the baseball teams, or
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: I like was an ra for a while or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm like thinking back to my first jobs and
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: to think that, like one of your first jobs was
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  Speaker 4: literally to scream as loud as you can into a
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  Speaker 4: microphone is like such a weird thing to like figure out, oh,
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: I'm good at that and I can make money doing
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: that or some kind of money for it. So can
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: you talk about like how you ended up like even
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: discovering that you can actually scream and scream well enough
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  Speaker 4: that people actually want to like willingly listen to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I kind of stumbled on it on accident.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: I guess, Like I said, we were like kind of
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: more of an emo band, and I I was really
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: inspired by bands like Thursday and Finch and bands that
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: would stinging primarily but then also like scream sometimes. And
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: now they unfortunately call that scream oh, but at the
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: time that was like I felt like it was an
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  Speaker 2: insult or something. It was like no scream, it was
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: really emotional. And we had there was a local band
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: that were like they were kind of legendary called Save
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Face and John their their screamer was a friend of
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: my sisters, and I was able to ask if he
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: would scream on our EP. So he did these like
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: screaming parts on the EP and the next show after
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: that after we released our EP. We never talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: I never practiced it. And he had this like kind
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: of whisper scream that sounded really cool, like it was
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: just very whispery. I can't there was a band, oh
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: self minded like kind of like that screen. I could not.
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  Speaker 2: I did not know how to do that at all.
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  Speaker 2: And and so I'm playing it, We're getting closer to
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  Speaker 2: that part, and I just remember feeling like, am I
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  Speaker 2: gonna do it? I don't know if I'm gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna do it, I don't think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: do it. And then I was like, ah, I remember
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: everyone's reaction was just kind of like, oh, what is this?
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  Speaker 2: Like my parents were in the audience and everything, and
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: they were always really supportive. They knew that I listened to,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you know, screaming music and and kind of understood that,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: but I think it just genuinely sounded bad.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: So there everybody was just kind of like, yeah, when
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: did you decide to to do that part? I was like,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, in the moment, was it cool? Yeah? I
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: just you know, you'll get there. It's cool, like, you'll
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: get there. So I uh, it was just something I
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: knew I kind of needed to work on and figure out.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, eventually I ended up, like I remember we
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: were doing not the next EP. The next EP, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: think I was screaming more like Dan from Zao, like
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: because they were one of my favorite bands. And then
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the next one I tried to low scream and everybody
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: was like when did you figure that out?
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  Speaker 3: This is awesome? So heavy and brutal, and I was like,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: oh brutal of the time, wasn't it.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh totally yeah. So uh, it was never something
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: that I thought would be my career because what I
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, really what I started a band for was
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: to write music. I loved writing music and I loved
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: hearing it come together in like you know, it was
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: just us playing it. It was just magical to me.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: So and it still is honestly, like getting together and
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: playing something that that we've written together as band or
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I wrote in my bedroom or whatever. It was just
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: really exciting. And then screaming was kind of a means
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: to an end for that and something I just kind
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: of fell into. And of course it's fun and I
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: like doing it and it's really fun to jump around
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: on a stage and go nuts, but and to interact
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: with with people who are want to interact with you.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: So but yeah, it was it was never my intent,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: but kind of a happy accident, I guess.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it has kind of sets you up for
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: your entire life. I mean, do you make your entire
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: income from creating music still to this day? I do. Yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: there's so few people in the world that can say
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: that it's got to be a very very tiny sliver
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: of people and actually make their entire living from creating music.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: It's suppressed, and that is because it is really hard.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I question it sometimes, like maybe I should just
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: get a sales job. And then because like all my neighbors,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: like I live in the suburbs, all of my neighbors
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: are in sales. They're either electrical engineers or they're in sales.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, maybe I should do that. And
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: then then I think about it and I'm like, nah,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: it's crazy, but yeah, it's got its ups and downs,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: but ultimately it's the thing that I'm most qualified to
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: do and the thing that I love to do, so
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I'm blessed to be able to do it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Well, no, no reason to make any changes if it
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: works for you and you love to do it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the only reason to make a change
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: is financial, because people don't love paying musicians. You kind
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of have to, like, yeah, you really have to fight
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: for yourself.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: But well, let's talk about how you got into HAST today.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Obviously it sounded like you met the guys at one
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: point while you were doing some touring, but obviously ends
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: up leaving. Uh, and they're looking for a new vocalists.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Like how what's the story of how they ended up
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: asking you to.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: To be a part of it. Yeah. So, like I
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: said before, we begged, we we we we. We're doing
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: some shows with a production company in Denver called Soda Jerk,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and Soda Jerk was booking, you know, all the all
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the cool shows, and they were booking all the Haste
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: to Day shows as well, and we were such big
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: fans of Haste to Day, like when when Everything Falls
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: came out, we were like, oh my gosh, they just
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: perfected the like singing and screaming pop structure like metal song.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: It's it's all, It's perfect. And so we begged them.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: We were like, please put us on every Haste to
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Day show that comes to town. We want to be
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: on every Hasty Day show. And they they did. They
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: started putting us on hayt Today shows and our first
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: one was I'm trying to remember who it was with.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I think it was a one off and it was
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: them in a bunch of local bands, And then we
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: did one more after that and they remembered us somehow
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and asked for us to be on the show they
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: called Soda jerk and asked if we were going to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: be on the show, and apparently it was because they
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: were looking for new singers, and Jimmy had already told
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: them that he was quitting, and they remembered me somehow,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And I remember that night we played and they all
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: came and got my phone number, and I was like, dude,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we are going to get signed to Solid State and
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: go on to work with This is awesome. They want
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: to be friends, they want to take us on tour.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I know it. Also, how old are you at this point?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I was eighteen?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, wow, so sorry.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Had you just graduated high school yet or were you
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: still in high scho Let's see at this point, Yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I had just graduated, so this would have been the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: summer after I graduated.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: We probably played the show towards the end of the summer.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: And then I got a phone call in October. And
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I remember this so clearly. It was one of the
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: most surreal moments I think of my life. I was
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: at a Barnes and Noble with just a bunch of friends,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: like you do, at like nine pm on a Tuesday
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: or something, and we were sitting outside of the Starbucks
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: and I just get this call and it says Jason
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: HTD And I was like, that can't be Jason from
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: hase to day, Like I know another? Do I know
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: somebody a Jason with an HTD last night? Like nope?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: So I answered, and he straight up he was like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: he's like, hey, so, so Jimmy is stepping down from
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the band and we need somebody to fill in for
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: our tour in Europe with the Juliana Theory? Are you
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: interested in going? And I remember clear as day saying
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: do you want me to go? Do merch? Like I
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: couldn't fathom that they wanted me to go like sing.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't. I didn't And he's like, no, we
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: want you to fill in a singer.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: We're like oh.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I was like okay. Well. The thing was is that
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: this is around Like I said, this is around October
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: of two thousand and five. The tour was in January
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: of two thousand and six, and my band we had
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: just made the big life decision that we're going to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: quit everything. Everyone's quitting school, we're quitting our jobs, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: we're hitting the road in January and this is it
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and we're going to make this thing work. And so
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I told him no. I was like, I'm sorry, I can't, like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I can't do that because they weren't asking me to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: be a of the band. Yeah, I'm not a perfect feeling.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: So in my mind I'm thinking like, oh, well, you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know, I can't like give up this
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: thing that could be a lifetime thing for something that
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: is just one month or whatever. Yeah, And I didn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: want to like abandon my friends, and it was it
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: was tough, but so I remember I called him, I
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: got off the phone. I basically said no, and I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: got off the phone and I went back to my
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: big group of friends and they were like, who was that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, it was Jason from hase to Day
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and he's like, WHOA what did he want? They asked
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: me to scream on a tour in Europe. Like I'm
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: like processing it as I'm telling them, and they were
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: all like, yes, are you doing it? And I was
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: like no, I said no, and they're like, are you
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: an idiot?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And I was like I think I might be an idiot.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I think I might be an idiot. Maybe I should
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't have told him no, And so I called
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: him back and I didn't say yes yet. I just
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: told him, like, could I get more information on that tour,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: maybe I can make it work. It was like twenty
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: days or something, so like theoretically I could have made
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: both work and the guys would understand, but I was
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: still like pretty hard no. And I remember calling all
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the guys and telling him what had happened, and they
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: were all they all told me that I should do it,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and also we're all super disappointed and bummed, and you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: it's it's a like it sucks, but it's also awesome.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And I didn't say yes for like another month probably,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: And I remember getting a call from Mark Lefay, Pyesaday's manager,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: who ended up becoming one of my best friends. But
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: he he scared the living crap out of me because
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I'm picturing him as like he's in a suit, right,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Like he's the manager. Yeah, a huge in my mind,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a massive, gigantic band, so he's got to wear a
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: suit and carry a briefcase to work. Probably works at
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: the top of like a huge building or something. And
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: he called me and he's like, and he literally said this,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: He's like, are you ready to are you ready to
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: move from Denver? To Indianapolis and leave all of your
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: friends and family to join this band. And I was like, no, no,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not, Like I don't even know these guys, Like, no,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not. And he was like all right, well, we're
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: just not interested. And then I get a call from
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the band and they're like, no, we're still interested, Like
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: like we're still around. Let us know if you change
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: your mind, please. And I worked at Chili's at that time.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I was in the to go window.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: You just feel God? Did you feel God there?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: No, No, I didn't feel good.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: You did feel God in this chilia?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Oh is that a song?
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: No, it's a it's an office reference, is it?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yes? Oh my gosh, I can't believe I missed that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: You feel got in this chill? Okay. I was sitting
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: there in the to go area just thinking like, man,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: this suck. Why am I doing this? And I was
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: like all right, I think I just have to do it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I've got to say yes. And it's gonna hurt a
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: little bit, but I've got to say yes. And I
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: called Mark that night. I wasn't supposed to be on
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: my phone, so I was like, hey, Mark, Yeah, I'm
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: gonna do it and he was like okay, cool, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: then like hung up the phone and I was like
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: all right, and I walked right into the manager's office.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Steve was my manager, and I was like, Steve, I'm
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: going to Europe and I don't think I'm coming back.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And he goes, Okay, that's like that's straight up main
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: character energy.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: You're like, like, I'm in a fucking movie right now.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I'm out of this town.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm going to Europe. I'm never coming back.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: And so did you basically move to Indianapolis from from
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: that point or did you go on tour first and
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: then or were you still at that point like a
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: fill in or like did they consider you fill in
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: or did they like consider you full member right away?
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Like what did that look like?
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I was a fill in through that tour and then
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: it was halfway through the next tour, which was bleeding
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: through every time I die, and between the Barry and
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: me and we were opening that tours, it was the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: sickest tour lineup for a nineteen year old. Yeah, And
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: halfway through that tour, we were in Denver and everybody
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: was staying at my parents' house and they like told
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: asked me to be in the band at the dinner
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: table with my parents there and everything. It was a
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: pretty special moment.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: It's like getting engaged at Christmas or whatever.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I was gonna say it feels a lot
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: like courtship, like awkward teenage courtship.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, it really is like being in a band
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: is like being married. It's you're you're kind of taking
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: my kid. Yeah, exactly, And so, uh, I didn't move
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: to Indianapolis until the following December, I think. I mean,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: we were on tour so much it didn't really matter
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: where I lived, Like, we didn't really hang out at home,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: so it was like I would just fly back to
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Denver and they'd fly back to Indy and then I'd
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: fly into Indy for rehearsals or whatever.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: It does feel like a movie, I'm not gonna lie.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, it kind of felt like that movie rock Star
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: with Mark Wahlberg. I remember people telling me like, oh,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: that your story is rock Star, Like I was like, no,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it's not. And then I watched the movie. I was like, Okay, yeah,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: kind of it kind of is it is without all
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the like drugs and alcohol.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at least that we know of yeah.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of alcohol, but just progressively got
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: more as the years went on.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about those years going on. Obviously again
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: you become kind of full thread, full fledged member. Did
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: you ever you know, this is always interesting to talk
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: with lead singers who are not the original lead singer,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: because obviously there is always that dynamic, especially when you
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: have someone like Jimmy who's so beloved by Hasty to
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Day fans. Like, obviously you're stepping into a band that's
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: like really well established at this point, they're great, and
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: so I would imagine you love that part of being
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: with Haste to Day. But also I would imagine there's
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: still still some people, maybe even still today, they're still like,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: oh I love it so much more when Jimmy is
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: you know, was in the band, and like why did
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: that Steven guy have to ruin it all or what?
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Like I don't know, Like did you ever have to
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: navigate that dynamic, especially maybe early on?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, And yeah, it was kind of a main
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: theme throughout which you know, I mean, I was also
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: very supported by the fans, but there were definitely some
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: people I remember. This might paint a little bit of
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: a picture I can't remember which tour it was. It
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: could have been our headliner or something. No, I think later.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I think in that first year we went on tour
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: with maybe It Dies today or I don't remember. But
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: we were playing the show and I messed up the
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: pit call. I like it was like this high energy
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: moment and I was like, all right, everybody, I want
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: to see the biggest place this bit has ever seen.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And I realized I was. I messed it up like
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: halfway through, and I just committed and just said it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: And there was this girl in the front row and
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: she's just looking at me just like she goes like this,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: and I was just like and to me, I internalized
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: that as I Jimmy would have never made that miss
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Jimmy would have never made that mistake, which is just
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: so funny. Yeah. Another time, I remember this kid. We
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: were playing this little tiny Eagles Lodge, like no stage,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: It was just packed in there. It was in Kansas,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: at Kansas City, I think, and this kid passed out
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: in the front row and I like helped him outside
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and I gave him water and like he came to
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: and he looked.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: At me and he's like, oh, haste.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: The day.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Man, I never saw Jimmy, Like I just really wish
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I would have seen Jimmy. And it was like one
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: of those moments where I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Was glad to help you, glo to help you out.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah cool, are you okay? I'm Stephen by the way,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: my name is Steven. Nice to meet you. But no,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I mean it's good, and I think a lot of
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: it is probably internal. You know, it's a hard thing
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: because I was a big fan of the band as well,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah, it's a hard transition. But Jimmy was
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: really supportive, like during the transition, he was super encouraging
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and yeah, and there was enough time like throughout. Now
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: it's not really like even a thing, but uh now
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: it's just fun to see, Like when Jimmy came up
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: at furnace Fest, like it got rowdy and it was
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: fun to watch, like take a take a step aside
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: and just see him have fun and it was a
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: cool thing.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can tell, like when Jimmy gets up front
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: at furnace Fest, like the fans that the hairs of
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: the fans get a little grayer the up front.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Just the push.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Then the fans of Stephen the Stephen version of Hasty.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was definitely it was a It was an
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: interesting thing because I don't know many bands that went
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: through like kind of almost an entire band changeover like
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: we did, like and everybody got progressively younger, so we
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: ended as a younger band than you know, like we
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: just it was a really interesting shift. And we always
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: had you know, Mike was the original member that that
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: stuck it out through the entire thing. But yeah, at
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the end we were almost a totally different lineup, very
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: different dynamic.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: But it was fun. It brought some new life to
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the band. It was cool.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird that every single kind of version of
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Hase the Day is beloved, you know. Yeah, and I
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: think it's relatively equal. I think that fans of the
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: more recent years of Face to Day are just as
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: big a fans as you know, the earliest years. It
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: is kind of crazy that way, because it's it's a
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: very different sounding band throughout it is. While there are
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: some elements that are that are similar. I mean it,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: it is definitely a different band basically, and every single
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: version of it is great.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Oh thank you, And yeah, I agree, And I just
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: think that like we were really surprised at these last
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: few shows. We were talking pretty much a lot of
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the people that we've talked to, because I mean it's
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: no surprise. Like when we did Attack of the Wolf King,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: we were probably at the lowest we had been for
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a while, like as far as like album sales, and
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: part of that is because the industry was just kind
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: of failing. That was right at the time where there
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: was a big switch over to streaming.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Which is wild because it's it's in my opinion, it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: your best album.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. Yeah, I
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I really love that album and I'm really proud of it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And I was just really stoked to hear that a
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: lot of the people that were coming out were coming
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: out to see songs from that album, and I was like, like,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: and even like the fact that they liked some of
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: like some one of the crowd favorites was White as
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Snow and that's a super weird song for Hasty Day, Yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: like you know, very off the cuff, like not not
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: a normal song for us, and uh, but also one
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: of my favorites. And to see people's phones come out
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: during that song, like it was just really cool. And uh, yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: it was. It was validating because it was we always wondered.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I I mean I always I internalized this, like like
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I said, like, did I destroy the band? We were
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: on a trajectory of up and then I started writing
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: weird songs, and then did I kill the band? The
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: answer is yes and no. But I was really excited
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: to see that, like some of those strange songs connected
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: with people in a way that I didn't expect.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I can totally understand that, and I'm glad
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: that you that you joined the band. I don't think
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: you took anything away from it. I don't think anyone
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: else really thinks that. That's probably an internalized.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Thing that you're yere, you know.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: So Mason and Mason, I don't know if this is
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: actually true for you, but uh, for instance, it is
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: actually the first time I got to see you guys live.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Mason and I were stuck in these the very northern
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: part of the Central United States where bands never came
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and we were always too poor to be able to drive.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: To Suit Falls.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Would have been in the closest place that any band
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: show up.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was pretty rare.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like nobody went to suit falls even.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: And so seeing you seeing you guys was great. I
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: am kind of bummed that Jimmy came up because I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: wanted to see what you did with the old stuff.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I've never I have no idea what you would have.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Like did you try to like like like imitate Jimmy
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: or did you just do your own thing with Jimmy's stuff?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I asked them in that first tour that I did,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, would you like me to imitate Jimmy's
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: voice because it's like a it was a you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: very distinct style of screaming. Like I said, I mean it,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit kind of like that Dan Wyatt
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: like ZO sound a little more though I was a
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: little more throat, and I was like, I could totally
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I could do that. And they just told me, They're like,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: just be yourself, just do what sounds cool to you.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: And they gave me a lot of freedom and and
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: so I was able to kind of make those my own.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: And it is really funny because like it is different,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I like, but it became I don't know,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I played those songs so much like we played those
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: songs for years and years. I've played them thousands of times. Yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: and and now it's like second nature. And it's cool because,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: like now I feel a little bit of ownership of
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: those songs, even though I wasn't a part of it
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: at the beginning. But but yeah, I especially like like
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Blue forty two. That song just rips, man, it rips
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: all the way through.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: And yeah, that was one of the gnarliest pits. Uh
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: this last Furnace Fast was doing and nuts during that song.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I was not expecting that from haste to day.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Necessarily people go like that has always been a crowd favorite.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I think like people go, yeah, I mean it has
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: a bass solo, so Mike gets to shine mike'skin. Really,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: he's really getting his moment in the spotlight there, and
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: people love it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure, for sure for good reason, right.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: For good reason. He is the hot one. People used
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: to say, Like girls would come up after the show
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: and like be like, hey, where's the hot one and
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: point to Mike on the poster. I'd be like, oh, yeah,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: he's over there.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: We were really hoping it was you, but I was.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Like, oh what You're like, I'm right, I'm right here.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: You're Tako, you're Jaco.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: So we've talked to Norman Jean once with their with
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: their drummer Matt. But we've never been able to talk
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: to Corey about this, and if we ever interviewed Norman
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: gen I would love to hear from him about this.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: But but there's sort of a similar story for you
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: all in has Today, where you obviously again have this
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: new singer come in. You have this kind of rotation
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: of artists that are a part of Hates todayist even
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: especially throughout your time and the band. And yet even
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: in the midst of that kind of constant rotation of
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: songwriters and musicians in the band, there is this sort
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: of distinctive Haste the Day sound. Maybe I don't and
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: I'd love to hear just kind of what you think
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: that might be, especially given the fact that there are
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: different songwriters throughout the entire history of Hasty to Day,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: there's different musicians. So I'm wondering maybe there's like a
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: certain tone in the guitars of Haste to Day. Maybe
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: it's like the songwriting, maybe it's just the structure of
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: the songs. I don't know what it is, but like
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: i'd love to hear, like kind of like what your
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: idea of like that quintessential Haste the Day sound is
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: that has been the sort of thread that has ran
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: throughout the entire band's history.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Interesting, that is a great question. I've I've never fully
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: processed that before. I think that there there was, because
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: there wasn't just like a straight up flip flop of
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: member changes. There was like there was a lot of overlap.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Each record had one new member to new member, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: it was so I think this maybe the songwriting. We
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: always really put melody first a lot of times and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: put a lot of thought and energy into what the
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: melody or the chorus is gonna be. And then second
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: to that is what the breakdown is gonna be. And
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I do think that there's there are
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: some through lines. It could be the like ethos of
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: the band. We always like we really wanted to center
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: our message around love and and tell stories about that
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: and tell stories that were inclusive and brought people in
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and uh, and that could play a part. But yeah,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it was just a We
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: talk about the legacy of Hase the Day because it
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: feels like a legacy because at one point it stops
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: being about who's in the band and it's more just
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: about the idea and energy of haste to day and
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: you know what, you call it a Christian ideals or
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: following Jesus or just looking for something deeper in life.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: I felt like or just like focusing on that message
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: of love and acceptance and inclusion. I don't know, that's
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: a great question.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the reason why I ask. I've even heard,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: like someone like Corey Brandon from Norman Jean say something
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: along the lines that Norman Jean is kind of this
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: collective of artists. Now, obviously Corey has been in Normal
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Jean for over twenty years now, and so he probably
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: is that sort of through line and why Norma Jean
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: has like remained obviously very different with each album, but
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: there's still kind of this like general song writing maybe tone,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: whatever it is, like that has remained true for Normal
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: gen especially since Corey has been in the fan and so, yeah,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: I was just curious. Maybe you've had like thoughts around
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: that with Hayes today, especially given the fact that there's
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: been different songwriters musicians. You know that there has been
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: a rotation of artists, even if it means that there's
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: only like maybe a couple new band members each album.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we two We also try to
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: write haste to day music because it's like it is
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: a style and it is like a it's it's you're
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: kind of just like, Okay, what does haste to day
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: sound like? And you're kind of playing around with ideas.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: We always pushed the envelope of that, of course.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: But right, but yeah, you do have like some abstract
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: notion of this is a like when you're writing a
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: song and you know the difference between oh, this is
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: just a song, like that's my own like maybe solo thing,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: and oh, this is a haste to day song. Like
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: there's something about the way you're writing that song, the
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: tone that you're looking for in the guitars obviously, even
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: like the drum production, there is a distinctive like sound
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: that you know, Oh, that's a hast to day song
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: versus this is somebody else's song or a different heavy
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: band song or my solo stuff or whatever.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: You know, something just occurred to me, And I think
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: it's just that there's always somebody in the band that
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: helps steer that It's never been me. Uh, but they're
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: like I remember when we were writing Dreamer and I
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: was writing I was into you know, post hardcore, like
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you know rock, like just like weird stuff, and I
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: wanted to just write sludgy, slow stuff. And and so
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I wrote this riff and I brought it to the
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: band and it was like in in six ' eight,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: it was like this like really sludgy slow riff and
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: uh and then Devin, the drummer at the time, uh
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: he he was like, Okay, huh, why don't we do
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: it like this? Just you guys play this so it's
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: still the same part. But then he put this really
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: fast drum beat over it that was like and then
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it it went from like sludgie to like metal and
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: the song turned into sixty eight, which it's cool, like,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, turned into what it needed to be.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: So it was like, of course I came in with
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: a very not Hasted Day idea and it put it
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: got put through the Haste to Day filter and and
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: then it sounded like hay today, you know. And even
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: that was like a little it was a little dark
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: for Haste to Day, I guess, but it still, yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: it sounds like Haste today.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely does. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I think I
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: think you said it earlier that there was this focus
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: on melody and this focus on creating I wouldn't necessarily
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: say catchiness, but there is a little bit of like
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: an earworm kind of kind of mystique to the hast
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: to Day. But the one thing that I always appreciated
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: about Hasted Day first and foremost was probably the riff writing.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, the riffs were just they were definitely things,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: uh you know, they were lines that would just they
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: would get stuck in your head and they're memorable. You know.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of that. I wouldn't say necessarily
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of riff writing, but not necessarily
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: memorable riff writing in that scene at that time, and
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Hayston they stood out because of that. That's really the
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: through line in my opinion.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, that's awesome. I mean, like early on,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I remember, I'm pretty sure Brennan wrote a lot of
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: like Burning Bridges era stuff, with a lot of help
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: from Jason, and then I think Jason wrote most of
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: the rifts on when Everything Falls, and I could be wrong,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: but I think this is how it went. And then
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: pressure the Hinges, Jason wrote a lot, I wrote a
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: little bit, and then so he kind of I think
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Jason really kind of defined a lot of the like
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: early sound of the of the rifts and some of
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: those cool like like the rift to when everything falls
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: is just like that's so so cool and it's and
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: he has a very specific style. I know that every
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: every guitar player, you know, all the newer guitar players,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: they have a hard time with that rip. It's like
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: hard to kind of figure out because it's very it's tight,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: but it's loose and it's gotten a style to it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And then you know, after after that we actually, funny story,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: we Dreamer was not played by any guitar player in
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: haste the day. Yeah, I wrote the riffs and Brennan
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: didn't want to play on it.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Did did you write the like the main one for stitches, No,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: that was that was Jason. Okay, that was Jason. That
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: one is.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a good that's a good one.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: On press of the Hinges, I did the minor prophets
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: uh course of Angels and those were my three, which
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I was so excited. It was my.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Your on your on your resume there.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Thanks. But yeah, then after that, like Scotty like man
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: his he is a monster at guitar, and he is
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: just so good and like the riffs that he could
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: write are not of this world. I'm just in awe
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: of his writing side, like a lot of like like
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Wolf King, We collaborated a lot as a band with
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: that one, but he could just take like a riff,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: the dumb riff that I write, and just turn it
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: into something that's just like what is that? Like this
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: is so cool and like some of the like he
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: he came to the band with travesty and we were
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: like this is this is sick? But it also kind
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: of had that like it kind of had a little
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: bit of that stitches like quality to it, that movement
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: to it, which kind of is that like case to
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: day sound right, Like Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, it's cool.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Dide I dig that. That's cool. I know, I know
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: where There's so many more things we want to talk
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: to you about, but I do want to talk about
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Beautiful Failures your podcast. Yeah, because this thing is super cool.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I love that you're focusing uh kind of like the
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: the motto of the podcast or the theme I guess
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: around this idea that we're all failures in some sort
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: of way, or we've all failed at something and we're
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: using that to to learn from and to grow from.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: How did this come about? And I think you're like,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: what seventeen episodes in eighteen episodes in something like that, right, yeah, yeah, I.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Think we're about to record our seventeenth Yes.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, they're great episodes, but yeah, just tell us,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: tell us about how you came up with the idea
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: and how you got some of these great guests. It's
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: fantastic so far. I listened to every single episode.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Thank you.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I guess this was a couple of years ago. My
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: friend Andy and I were talking. I mean we're both
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: freelancers and creatives. He's a director and you know, I'm
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: a composer. So we just were commiserating about a lot
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: of the stuff, right, all the the like all the
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: dark stuff that we kind of all face. For instance,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: like creative jealousy is a topic that we kind of
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: talk about. We haven't talked about it much on the podcast,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: but just all these little failures, these little things, and
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: like how much you have to be comfortable with just
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: failing over and over and over again and just having
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: the persistence to just keep going and having the confidence
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: in yourself to keep going even when sometimes it really
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: feels like you're you're not going to be able to
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: you know. And we were talking about it and we're like, man,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I think everybody kind of feels this way in our field,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: like creative professionals, Like we all kind of and we're
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: kind of sick of the podcast that's like I made
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: my first million by blah blah blah, and you know,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: and it's like yeah, and it's like that's awesome, and
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: you know, that has its place, but sometimes people just
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: need to hear, like and talk about and process the
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: the crap that we deal with, and and so that
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: we were like, how about we just have conversations with
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: our friends and you know, and some people we don't know.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: And our first guest was Chris from Under Oath and
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: a mutual friend of both of ours, and because we
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: were talking about his film scoring stuff, and man, it
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: just we both fell in love with it immediately. We're like,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: this is awesome. Just learning from every episode, like we
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: actually get to ask questions because we're genuinely curious, and
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: it's so healing and life giving to just talk about
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: how hard it is sometimes and what keeps you going.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: You know. So I think it's just an effort to
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: bring people out of isolation, to get comfortable talking about
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: the stuff that is not fun, and maybe to pursue
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: failure a little bit more and not be afraid of it,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: because look, I mean it's really easy to say like,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: oh I don't want to do that because I might fail.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: But what are you going to do? Like you're not
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: going to do anything if you're afraid of failure. And
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: so I think we should be seeking out failure as
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: creative people. We should be. And then okay, yeah, cool,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I just that didn't work out the way that I
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: wanted it to work out. So let's find the next
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: one and you keep going until something hits. And yeah,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: so I really love being able to do that podcast.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I've learned a ton from so many amazing people. Uh
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: some overlap uh in in this scene, you know, we
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: just had Andy from Plea a play for purging, and
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: he was oh so encouraging. I think about these conversations
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: after we have them, and I'm like, Okay, how do
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: I apply that to my own life? Like this is cool?
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Like it's.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: It is life giving, like.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: Your own personal sermon or something.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, and we're all just like kind of like, uh,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: just coming together and sharing ideas and sharing our faults
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: and failures. And yeah, very thankful to be able to
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Andy Atkins, the unintentional preacher, That's what I Yeah, that's
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: what I think of when I think.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Of an he is. He did play a preacher in
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: his in that one music video. That's true.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Great, hopefully you still got all your money.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was filmed in my church, which is funny.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Really really like the church that your dad passed at.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: No, no, no church that I got to in Nashville.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, catch that's wild.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really funny. I was like, oh, there's
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: the anchor, so you go.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: You go to those kinds of churches, I see.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah it's a money grabbing church. No,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: it's a small church that has very little money. That's great.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: I'd love to hear obviously kind of maybe the recent
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: life of Haste today. Obviously you guys broke up after
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: attack the Wolf King and or went on hiatus, however
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: you guys want to describe it. And then a few
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: years later Coward comes out and then it's been almost
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: nine years since or maybe it's been nine years now
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: since Coward came out, so it's been almost close to
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: ten years since Coward came out, So it's been some
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: time since we've heard some music. Obviously, last year you
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: guys played Furnace Fast and is kind of the first
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: thing or the first thing that you've guys done in
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: a long time. I just played Furnace Fest last year,
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: and then obviously you guys are playing again this year.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: But yeah, i'd love to just kind of hear where
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: you're at, where the other guys are at when they
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: think of like haste to day, Like is there new
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: music that you guys have been maybe wanting to write?
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Is there like can we expect more shows in the future,
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: not just these kind of one off things with Furnace Fest. Yeah,
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: I just love to kind of hear where your thoughts
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: are around the life of Hastey today right now.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably should have consulted our manager to figure
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: out what I'm allowed to say. But you are playing, yeah,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: if that says anything. Also, so we are playing handful
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: of shows this year, so keep your eyes out for
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: those Capellette fests and Connecticut, I believe June twenty eighth
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: we're playing that that was already announced, so I can
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: say that, I know, and yeah, just keep your eyes
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: out for other things. I'll just say this, We've been
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: working really hard and it feels good to work together again.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: And it's all remote, like almost all remote. We're kind
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: of just trying to figure out what this looks like
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: when every single one of us lives in a different
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: state and we all have jobs and we all like
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: have responsibilities outside of this. But but yeah, some really
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: great stuff is going to happen this year. I'll just
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: say it. There's some new music that's coming out that
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: I don't heard it here first. Folks, you heard it
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: here first.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: You got that Wikipedia. Make sure you cite the Black
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: Sheet podcast.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. So yeah, so there is some
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: new stuff. We've been working together and it feels really good.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: And I feel like it's just a really interesting phase
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: of the band because and like I said, BEFO be
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: where we kind of talk about this legacy of like
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: because at this point it kind of feels like we're
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: not digging up dinosaur bones, but we kind of are
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: like picking up like the flame went out, right, it
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: extinguished a while ago, and now we're just trying to
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: figure out what we can make out of the ashes,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: and I feel like we are all a lot more mature,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: We have a lot more to say. I think that
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: there's a depth there, and also we all care a
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: lot more about little things, which makes it difficult for sure.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Collaboration is like, you know, it's a lot slower these
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: days when we're doing everything through email and text and
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: zoom calls and that kind of stuff. But I think
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: that the fruit is worth it. So I'm excited. I'm
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: excited to show you guys some of the stuff that
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: we've been working on and it'll be cool.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: I feel like we need like a sounding board that
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: has like one of those that like, that's awesome, that's incredible.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I'm excited. Yeah, I get wait to hear what this
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: this uh, this later season of Hay Today is going
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: to be.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very It's we went a really like folk rocky.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: If you did, I'm in for it.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: You know that's what that violin is for.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we went full Yeah, that's awesome.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Can we just give a shout out to just technology
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: in general about you know, how to think of like
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: ten fifteen years ago, it would have been probably almost
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: impossible to collaborate, especially like a band the hat to
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: a size, to be able to have people in every
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: like five guys in five different states, and to still
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: like figure out how to make music together. I mean
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: that is like something that's so new in human history
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: that that's even a possibility to collaborate in that way
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: really creatively and still get really great creative kind of
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: product out of it. It's really really cool to me.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: And so yeah, I love like this is even a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Podcay and six six guys guys okay under oath.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, we're like crazy. We got three guitar players,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: were wild Brennan. Brennan is a part of this awesome
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's Attack of the Wolf King. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: we're we're excited about it. I have noticed that it's like, yes,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: it's slower, but that's kind of a good thing because
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: you just chew on it for longer, you know what
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I mean. You like, like we've been writing choruses and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: like me and Brennan and Mike just bouncing ideas off
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: of each other and it grows very slowly. But then
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: what happens at the end is like whoa that is
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: a really thought out, well crafted music. Yeah, because we
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: just we chewed on it for so long and all
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: the stuff that sucked about it got spit out, you
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Like guys are basically musical Somalia's Now.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is well. I smell cherry in this vocal take.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: I love it all right. I think it's time for
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: top five most influential albums. Okay, you can go in
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: any order you choose. You can come up with them
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: right off the top of the head. If you need
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: a moment, we'd give you a moment.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Cool A to B life mean without you? Oh, sure
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: of course.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: I expected that from you. I'll be honest.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love I loved that record so much.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: And I remember seeing them what was that ninety nine
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: at Cornerstone maybe it was two thousand, we get it well, No,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: I was like I was young. I was like, yeah, maybe.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: How old was I?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Then?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I was like fourteen or something it was. I was
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: thirteen years old when I saw them, and it was
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: tooth and nail day and they they blew my mind.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: They were all wearing these like leisure suits ye with
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: like frilly I just remember they looked like the way
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: I was describing them then was like Shakespearean actors on stage,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: but like but they weren't. It was just how I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: could process it. It was they looked like there.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: It was more like more like Samuel L. Jackson from
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: pulp fiction.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something like that, maybe like a little bit
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: prince maybe yeah, maybe a little bit more theatrical. And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: they had rose roses they like the throwing flowers out
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: and it was just the coolest thing I had ever seen. Yeah,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: I loved it so much. Let's see, uh liberatee te
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: x in trees z O that record. And it's hard
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: to I don't know if it's that one or Blood
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: and Fire, but both of those albums. Can I just
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: join those two together into one thing?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Nope, you have to pick one.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Sorry, all right, well I'm gonna say let yeah that.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was so scared of that album. It
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: was so scary and cool. That intro song was like
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: this instrumental like crazy. I don't know, it was just
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: it was a very cool album and that was very influential,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: uh on my life. Here's a here's a totally different vibe,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: sky Blue Sky by Will.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Co Holy you you do listen to MPR, I knew it.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: H Yeah, Sky Blue Sky the song Impossible. Germany, we
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: were on tour with Norma Jean and they had a
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: sound person, Lucy Burnkova, and she's she checked the PA
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: every day with this song, and it was the most
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: amazing thing I had ever heard. And it has this
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: like it's like it has this guitar solo that goes
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: on for like three minutes. That's the happiest thing, And
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: like it's just the happiest thing I've ever heard in
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: my life. And at a time when I was just
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: so overmetal, I was over people getting in fights at
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: our shows. I was like I was just really burnt
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: out on the whole thing getting punched in the chest
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: like because I was like I'm just not angry, I'm
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: like I just want to chill out, Like let's just
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: chill And it was. It was really helpful for me
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: on the road to like switch gears and and I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: think that that kind of gave me more life to
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: go out and jump around and get crazy because I
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: could also have some chill time.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say it kind of sounds like you
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: would rather have been in like a doom metal band
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: or something like that, if you just chill out but
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: still listen to heavy music.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably I probably would have yeah, like just
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: something very ethereal and yeah, and I would have played
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: guitar probably, but let's see. Okay, how many is that three?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: That's three of them?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is funny. But when Everything Falls, Oh
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: it's very Yeah. I mean I loved that album. I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: really liked Burning Bridges, and I really loved When Everything Falls,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: So that was good. One more. I'm deciding between a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: few different ones because there's so many good ones.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: The last one's always the toughest one.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: I got to figure out. Hold on, I got to
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: make sure I say the name of this right so
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: you can edit my I I'm not ashamed to say
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: that I burned CDs all the time. Still still now, No,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't even know where I
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: can play a CD.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: All of our devices have totally left that world.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Regulate the chemicals by two thirty eighth, Oh okay,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: that little yeah, yeah, that record. I couldn't remember which
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: one if it was you should be living or regulate
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: the chemicals. But regulate the chemicals I think was the one.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I just I was jamming that I had. I drove
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: a van, like a Chevy conversion van in high school,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: you know, because I was in a band.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Right, So, and your dad was a pastor.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: My dad was a pastor. Yeah, and so was it?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: The wait was it? Was it the church's conversion van.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: No that they didn't get a conversion van until later
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: they bought They actually bought the van that we were
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: going to tour in from the band after I joined
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: It is today that one was Susan. We called her Susan.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: My van was Howard. Howard the Cowardly Van is what
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: we call them, because he was real. It was a
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: short van. It was like a Chevy Conversion van sport model.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: So it was like like astro Astra van. No, it
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: looked like, you know, the big van, but it was
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: just shorter. It was just like this little stubby van.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: It was like maybe two feet shorter than the big one.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Still had the like the bench that went down to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: a bed in the back, and the sure a little
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: spot for a little tiny tube TV that was like this.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you played Nintendo on oh hell yeah it
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: was fun. But yeah, so I'd drive around jamming that
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: record just so loud and it was Uh, I just yeah,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: I just love it. I love the tones on that album.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: And then one bonus record, control Pitch of the Lineage.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Lyrically, Uh just rocked my world at the time,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: and musically as well.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: So yeah, okay, back to two thirty eight for a second.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys know this, but Chris Staples,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: for his solo stuff right now, has over a million
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: monthly listeners on Spotify. I never would have guessed that
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: his solo stuff blew up in that way. Really, there's
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: over a million listeners.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: And Discover America or something wasn't that his?
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: So he had that, But now just under his name,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: he's been releasing albums for a number of years now
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: and he has over a million monthly listeners.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Good for him, man, that's awesome. Isn't that sick? Yeah?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: He's killing I think he's still in the Pacific request
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: somewhere too, like Seattle or wherever.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: The picture on yeah, the picture on Spotify is very
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest. Just in its filter, m hm, it looks
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: like the Pacific. The people in Tennessee don't do filters
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: What's the what's the filter in Tennessee.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's like definitely more of a I don't know,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: just says live laugh, love over it. Yeah, there'd be
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: a lot more.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there'd be a lot more denim, probably denim, and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: then like some like nondescript U mural down.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: One of those felt cowboy hats.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah that all the girls wear.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you see them at megachurches too.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh oh yeah.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: The worship leader, especially if she's a woman and she
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: isn't wearing that hat, that's like she's out of the church's.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Get he's not even she's not even a Christian.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Oh my, oh god, this is I'm starting to get sick.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I think just thinking about this conversation.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna have to have another conversation another time.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: That yeah, oh yeah, I can really go deep into
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean to talk about mega churches. I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: can go deep.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Let's go deep sometimes. Uh, that'll be for the next episode.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: What would you like to plug? Obviously new music at
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: some point. Work.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just keep your eye out, follow the Hasty Today Instagram,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: get on the mailing list. We are trying to be
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: better at social media, so you'll see more there. Yeah,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: check out Beautiful Failures if you like a deep conversation
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: and you like hearing from creative, talented people.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: And NPR voices that aren't on MPR.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and at PR voices here we go. But yeah,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: so check that out. Yeah. I think that's pretty much
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: all I've.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Got to plug Beautiful Failures and you can your compose
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: your business right.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you want to see what I've
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: been up to, you can go to Stephen Keats dot
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: com and check out some of the stuff that I've
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: been doing. I uh, score a lot of commercials and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: I marvel. I wish I would be a lot richer
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: if if I had. I did just get a song
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: on Law and Order SVU on TV, which is really
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: I saw it on my royalty statement just a couple
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: of days ago. It's like, what the song that I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: did years ago? That's like, it's not anything to write
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: home about. But I actually would never show it or
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: post it anywhere, but apparently they liked it enough to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: put it on SVU.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: That's like my dream job somedays, just like pick songs
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: that go in TV shows or movies.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's like the greatest music supervisor. Man, I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: got it.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: I gotta find a way in.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you How do you get that job?
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: You just get really good at making playlists and discovering artists.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: And terrible at malists.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: And then make friends with people who make movies and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: TV shows.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: That's the hard part, you know. Because we do have
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: a friend named Dan Koke that he has a second
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: house from making music, Yeah, commercials and stuff podcast to
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Oh his podcast is great. He's a great person. Was
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: also he's also a prick at times. We love him
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: for it.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Actually, funny story about Dan. Uh
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: My wife and I when we were dating. Uh, Dan
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: was there and I don't even remember what it was about,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: but they got into an argument because he's very opinionated,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: she's very opinionated, and it was like, you know, I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, and I'm like, I'm an
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: Mteagram nine who like I can't handle conflict, So like,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just guys, please, like, let's just you guys are
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: both right, Let's just move on. But yeah, it was
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: that was a good summer. That was a fun summer.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, he's a he's an awesome guy. This
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: podcast is fantastic. Yeah, I just I'm late to the game,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: but I just started getting into it. He's got a
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: lot of really great stuff to say.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's even better when he actually
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: remembers to hit record on his end. We when we
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: do a three hour podcast.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Is that what happened to?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did an emo thing on his podcast and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: he forgot to press record that.
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  Speaker 2: So you guys just had a really great conversation.
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  Speaker 4: We had a great it was. It was a great conversation.
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  Speaker 3: With four people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, well at least you guys had some fun, right,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: it was a blast.
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  Speaker 3: It was. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I drank way too much that I was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that makes sense. Oh man. Yeah, I I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: feel like if we we don't record Beautiful Pays at
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: night very often, but if actually there was one and yeah,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: me and Andy after dark that is what you're saying, Yeah,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: the after dark version. But yeah, I feel like it
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: would be a whole different podcast if they did that.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: All Right, anything else you'd like to plug?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: So I wasn't gonna say, but I don't know if
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: I can say this, you.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: Can It's all right, Okay, this is the BlackSheep podcast.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: There's gonna be two people that hear you say this,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: so I think you're you're fine.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, this is an interesting fact about Haste Today.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the song Fearless? Yes, of course, yeah,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Taylor Swift right, Yeah, that was a Hasted a demo
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  Speaker 2: that got rejected. What Yeah, but I thought she.
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  Speaker 3: Wrote, I thought she wrote. I thought she wrote all
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: her own songs.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the industry is dark, man like, people are
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: not always telling the truth.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 4: So wait, I'm trying to think back. I don't remember
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: every Taylor Swift song I've ever heard, because I've never
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: listened to a Taylor Swift song willingly. So is there
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  Speaker 4: like a chug chug a chug a chug kind of
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: riff in that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they took all that out, but it was like
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: at first it was like God Birth dear Less, but like,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like that on her.
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  Speaker 4: So wait did it get it got rejected as a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: Haste to Day song and then somebody in the industry.
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  Speaker 2: Because the Day doesn't Actually, we didn't write all of
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: our songs either, so we were pulling. Yeah you guys
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  Speaker 2: did like you guys?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, you guys did Black Eyed Peas?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: We did, yeah, and that was also, uh, we had
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: recorded that song before the Black Eyed Peas recorded it
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: because we're pulling from all the same Oh I love it,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: saying wow, pool of unrecorded songs. So we decided to
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: release it later because we're like, okay, it's working for
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: the Black Eyed Peace. What are you gonna do? When
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 4: Fearless Hate the Day's version we might release in parentheses.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: A demo that we recorded, you know, back in like
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: I actually wasn't a part of that version of the band.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: It was like in two thousand or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so there needs to be a season assist for
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean they still pulled it from the same rider,
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  Speaker 2: but sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But I suppose if you if you if you put
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  Speaker 3: down a demo, I mean you did record it, we
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: did record it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, if you if you re record it then and
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: then release it, then I could you know, it would
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: be like you know, Fearless Hayson d A's version, and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: then I could like put it as like my bumper
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: sticker on my car, and that would be a nice thing.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's true. Yeah, man, you could, you could.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: You guys could just pull a one eighty and do
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: it Taylor Swift and then re record all of your
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: old stuff exactly the same.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, maybe what about, like, uh, what if we just
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: did like folk versions of all the songs?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, that'd be beautiful.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: Oh this is just a side note, but there are
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: several times where they made us do like acoustic sets
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: and and.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: Who's they making you, Chad Johnson, No, like.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: The Higher Episode would book these things and then we'd
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: be told like the day before, oh, you guys have
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: to go play on it. You have to. This really happened.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: We had to go play an acoustics set at a
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: kid's show, uh in like a live kids show in
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: South Africa.
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  Speaker 3: I think the kids.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Show that was yeah with like no, yeah, there were
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: no famous uh kids performers there, but yeah, we had
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: to play for all these kids sitting. Yeah, it was
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: the most awkward situation.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: You're like thinking about how they got stitches in their
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: mouth and all that stuff.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I don't remember which song we did. Maybe
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: Brendan did like Autumn or something, such a depressing song
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: for a bunch of kids.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: It has a little more palatability for children.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, probably, but that's where we got
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: the idea for Traveling ABC's.
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  Speaker 6: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a deep cut. I don't
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: know if you guys know, I'm not aware of what
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: that is. If you bought I guess that was on
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: the bonus or like the deluxe version of Attack of
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: the Wolf King.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: Oh I had the deluxe version.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: There was a DVD that was in that version.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I watched the DVD, but that has been
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: forever ago.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: On the DVD there is a music video for a
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: song called the Traveling ABC's and we recorded that music
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: video in my house in Indianapolis. And it is real goofy.
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  Speaker 3: I swear to God, I'm gonna go upstairs and I'm
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: gonna go find that.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Is it better?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: Is it more goofy than a polea for proging music videos?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: It's a different kind of goofy, okay, because maybe a
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: drier humor.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: It's more uh, it's more Monty Python less uh.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: It's like more Tim and Eric or something. It's it
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: was real, real weird and we we I don't even
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: think any of us thought about this, but we definitely
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: said Wanker in the kids selling uh it says the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: line is w is for Wanker, wom bat walrus, witch
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: and witch. Uh it is.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like it appears as if this music video
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: is on YouTube.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: I want I wanted to go watch on the actual Yes, okay.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: You're gonna is it only like a minute long?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay you ready?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: Oh my gods for africaies for bananas, for GM.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: The Red's for elephants.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: Sport France and for the Galla horse name loves the Fast.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: Craze is for the jelly fish, for the kitten on
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: the posterns.
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  Speaker 3: For the ninety nine pops.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: On the horse streetes for your passports, for the queen
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: as Forana s cis snake tease.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: A drink of tack to last please King Nambies.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: The vinegar is for Wanco wambit wall respens which.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Why is for you sus.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Begin accents on point man, Wow, you guys didn't expect
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: to get that on this podcast, wasn't I also wasn't
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: expecting that good of accents.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah. Mike was always really great with accents anywhere
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: we went. He was able to mimic.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: Whatever Colin, You're very good at accents.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Too, sometimes I am. We did have my.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: Accents sound like British accents.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: We just had North leanea on uh they're from Australia
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: and uh I when he came on the podcast, I
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: just started speaking in an Australian accent and he was like, wait,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: is this is this from Australia? Are you from Australia?
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm from South Dakota. Got it. Yeah.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: I was like, that's not too bad if I can
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: fool them.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a fun, fun, fun time.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: And I'm gonna I am going to teach my son.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah he's he's a year and a half right now.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna teach him with that that video.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, he'll learn his ABC's real quick.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: We're gonna watch it over and over again.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: I can't wait till he gets to w Yeah.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: You guys are gonna be like encroaching on Miss Rachel
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: territory here soon.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh yeah, we'll see if there's a traveling ABC's
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: part part two.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: Oh there's got to be now. Hey. Yeah.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: When I hear new uh hayt today music, that's immediately
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: what I'm expecting.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: It should be bumper or intro music for you guys.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it should.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: Be maybe like an intro, like, yeah, intro to the
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: show Furness Fest twenty There you go twenty twenty four.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Let's hear here we go?
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, it's very on brand for us.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: Sweet well, Steven, thank you so much for chatty Moore
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: about Haty today. We're super super stoked for the new
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: music that will eventually be in the world. Uh hay
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: to Day as again one of those bands that I've
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: been listening to for almost twenty years now, and so
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: for for you and the rest of the band to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: kind of be a part of my life in that way,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: it really means a lot that you were willing to,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: you know, come on and chat a little bit more.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: And again, we're just super super stoked to not only
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: see you at for invest this year, but also to
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: hang out and listen to you more music in the
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: eventual future.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: So thank you so much, Steven, Thank you so much
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: for having me.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Guys appreciate love it.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: Okay, yes, saying you're back saying that show Okay, the
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: strange man become the stitches.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: In your back when you're silence. We go down
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  Speaker 5: When the strength being jump the stage Fred jump back