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Faith, Students and Biblical Education with Dr. Elizabeth Smith · Karl and Crew

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  S6: Beef sticks.
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  S2: Beef sticks. Sticks.
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  S6: Beef sticks from Costco.
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  S2: Well that's true. You're not getting up early and cooking
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  S2: I do the same thing. I can't, can't get all
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  S6: Yeah it has. And if you heard some mumbling going
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  S7: Carl.
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  S7: Whatever.
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  S6: Super knives over there.
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  S7: Little brother.
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  S3: It sounded like a Charlie Brown adult.
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  S6: And I'm trying to swallow beef sausage here, and I
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  S6: am having a hard time. You notice the more you
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  S2: Yes, absolutely.
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  S3: It's crazy.
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  S2: I've been caught with that, like, uh, on on newscasts
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  S2: that we've done here. Little inside radio is, you know,
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  S2: I've tried to. I'm. I'm miss gauging how long I
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  S2: and before a newscast starts, and, uh, and sometimes I'm like,
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  S2: there's too much in my mouth to do any reading,
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  S2: so I have to just, you know, go AWOL on
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  S2: the bite and spit it out. And I lost that,
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  S2: but I'll have to start over later.
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  S7: And I'm like, okay, I guess it's time for the weather. Yeah.
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  S6: You guys are cracking me up.
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  S3: Oh, man. We came.
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  S6: We came in wired for sound. You got something you
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  S6: want to share? You're flapping papers around in there.
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  S3: This is.
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  S2: A good.
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  S7: Just ready for our guests, that's all.
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  S3: Wow.
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  S6: Okay, well, let me help you here. We'll play along.
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  S7: No.
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  S6: There we go. Now, everybody's got a little fun in
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  S6: the action here.
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  S3: Starting crazy.
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  S6: Speaking of fun, she's coming up straight ahead. She's a
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  S6: crazy lady. That's why I like her. Crazy. In a
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  S6: good way. Doctor Elizabeth Smith, we're going to be talking
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  S6: a ton of cool stuff, but we're going to stay
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  S6: in Elizabeth's wheelhouse, which is really cultivating this passion for
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  S6: Christ through education and sanctification and growing up into him.
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  S6: She's a children's ministry expert as well. Do you guys
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  S6: know that?
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  S3: I did know that I did.
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  S6: So let's start with children's ministries, because we got a
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  S6: lot of people that love that area of the world.
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  S6: Hang on, Elizabeth Smith, straight ahead.
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  S1: Get your info from a source you can trust. It's
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  S1: Ask the Experts week with Carl and crew.
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  S6: Well, here we are. It's Ask the Experts and we're
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  S6: on a Freedom Friday. It's funny because if I think freedom,
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  S6: I think when I go to church, I find an
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  S6: area to serve that has nothing to do with children's ministry.
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  S6: Now I love children. No, no, but I'm being very
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  S6: serious for a moment.
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  S2: It doesn't meet your your personality type or no.
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  S6: I actually love it, but I love doing the teaching.
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  S2: Okay.
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  S6: I love going in. When I was asked as a
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  S6: lead pastor, come on in and I'd have to come
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  S6: in and talk to, like, all sixth graders and there's
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  S6: like 80 of them in there. Come on, pastor. Could
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  S6: you come on in before you get up and preach?
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  S6: And that's when we would do it. Could you come
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  S6: in and encourage him with a little bit of the word?
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  S6: I would love that because I would try. My goal
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  S6: was to get the kids so zoomed up that when
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  S6: I left, they would never want me back again.
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  S2: You were basically like a like a spiritual grandfather.
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  S3: In that moment.
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  S6: That's exactly.
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  S3: Right.
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  S6: Uh, doctor Elizabeth Smith. Um, how about that? That's that's
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  S6: that's kind of a crazy thing for a pastor to say,
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  S6: isn't it, Elizabeth?
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  S8: Well, okay. Uh, crazy. Uh, scary. How many children were
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  S8: terrified after you came in? And then where did they
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  S8: have to, like, do some regulation with the children? I
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  S8: talk them off the ledge or something.
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  S6: I know I had fun with them. I think I
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  S6: learned it from my dad, who was a school principal,
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  S6: and he would take whole assemblies of kids into a gym.
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  S6: I actually love planetary communication to large groups of kids
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  S6: because if you bring energy in enough interesting stuff, they
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  S6: really will eat out of the palm of your hand,
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  S6: won't they? Elizabeth?
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  S8: 100%. And that's what I love, what you just said.
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  S8: It is about being interesting so that we're encouraging the
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  S8: child's curiosity. It isn't just about fun. I am a 100%
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  S8: sure these kids had fun with you. Absolutely. But you
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  S8: did not entertain them. What you did is you showed
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  S8: them a God who is so much more interesting and
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  S8: amazing and fascinating than any entertainment this world could ever offer.
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  S8: And when you bring God into the center and grab
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  S8: their attention for that, you're going to keep their attention
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  S8: and they're going to get excited and feed off of
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  S8: your excitement, which shouldn't we be excited about? God.
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  S6: Amen. Doctor Elizabeth Smith with us right now. Oh my goodness.
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  S6: We're going to get into at least three areas of
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  S6: her expertise in this hour. And we are going to
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  S6: have some fun. So I want to talk with you
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  S6: about children's ministry. What has changed? We got a lot
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  S6: of people listening right now who either have kids, grandkids
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  S6: or minister to kids in the context of the church.
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  S6: What's changed? What do we need to know?
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  S8: I think there's been a huge push toward intergenerational ministry,
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  S8: meaning while you may have age segregated ministry to children
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  S8: in parts of your service or your week or the mornings,
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  S8: you bring generations together more often than not so that
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  S8: children are a part of the community. They're participating within
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  S8: the community. And as Psalm 145 four says, one generation
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  S8: shall commend God's works to another and shall declare his
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  S8: mighty acts. So children are hearing the gospel and biblical
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  S8: truth from many generations, not just in their own little
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  S8: peer group from one person, but they're seeing the body
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  S8: of Christ in action. And having them be a part
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  S8: of that, I think, has made a huge difference in
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  S8: how they're understanding Christ.
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  S6: Is that beginning to gain traction? I remember we talked
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  S6: about this with you a few weeks ago. One of
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  S6: the challenges is the way we've kind of constructed our churches,
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  S6: and the way we've kind of done it in the
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  S6: past is kids are over here. Um, what about this
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  S6: modified idea going back to what I had as a
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  S6: kid growing up where everybody's worshiping together. And then at
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  S6: a certain time, all the kids boogie out of there.
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  S6: Is that even possible in a big church?
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  S8: 100%. Oh, yeah. And a lot of times they call
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  S8: it children's church. So everybody's together and the kids are singing.
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  S8: They see the offering being taken. Hopefully they're in there
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  S8: during baptisms or when testimonies are given. Those kind of
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  S8: moments are meant for the Multi-generations now, when the Word
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  S8: of God is being taught from the pulpit as the
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  S8: teaching pastor is speaking to adults, much of it will
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  S8: go over the heads of the children. So I would
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  S8: recommend and totally support having the children go out to
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  S8: what you consider age segregated groups. Why? So that they
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  S8: are hearing the Word of God at an age appropriate level? Right.
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  S8: So you can even take the same message or the
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  S8: passage that the pastor is teaching in the big church,
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  S8: and then you can teach that. But how a four
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  S8: year old understands that versus an eight year old versus
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  S8: even a 12 year old is a very different on
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  S8: what do they understand? And then how can they apply
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  S8: that to their life? Because we want them to know
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  S8: that the Word of God is understandable. But as much
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  S8: as possible. So you do the teaching, perhaps in those groups,
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  S8: but they come back and they're a part of the
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  S8: body of Christ. So they are viewing it, they're participating,
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  S8: they're feeling the work of the spirit, and they're watching
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  S8: how the Spirit of God is working through the community.
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  S6: Love it. Okay. I'm going to tap into a few
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  S6: lightning round questions here. Number one, I was a big
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  S6: one on. I don't want high schoolers bifurcated out. We
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  S6: we contextualize the gospel enough, keep them in the big
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  S6: auditorium with everyone else. So we had high schoolers in
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  S6: there and they had midweek stuff and all kind of
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  S6: mission trips and everything. And we, you know, as we've
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  S6: moved to a new campus here in Chicago, we're going
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  S6: that way as well. And where is the break off
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  S6: these days? Where is that.
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  S8: Boy? That's going to be different depending upon your congregation
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  S8: and what you have room for. But honestly, I think
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  S8: even at third or fourth grade, you could keep kids
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  S8: within the larger church because they do have the capacity
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  S8: to understand a lot of things Cognitively brain wise by
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  S8: the time they're getting to later elementary. You can keep
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  S8: your later elementary, middle school and high school absolutely within
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  S8: the larger church. What's going to be challenging is that
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  S8: because they are having to sit there and have sustained
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  S8: non distracted attention to listen to the pastor. Then the
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  S8: other adults around them, including their family, is going to
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  S8: have to challenge them to focus. And we don't live
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  S8: in a culture that really celebrates focus.
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  S6: Boy, you weren't kidding.
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  S8: No I know. So you have to have those conversations
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  S8: of when those distracting thoughts come in your head or
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  S8: when you're feeling bored. Because how we receive information is
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  S8: not the same as when you're playing a video game.
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  S8: Your brain isn't doing the same thing. What does it
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  S8: mean to feel bored? So instead of lecturing them on
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  S8: being bored, talk to them about it and say focused
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  S8: attention takes work and discipline. But when we're in the
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  S8: house of God, we want to be focused with that
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  S8: sustained discipline. So we are learning. Let's figure this out
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  S8: together and have those crucial conversations.
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  S6: She's an expert on, on on a lot of things,
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  S6: but a few things in particular. So I want to
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  S6: shift gears coming up here. Elizabeth. You are a certified
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  S6: licensed counselor. And what I want to tackle is what
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  S6: are the big issues that you are seeing today that
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  S6: are different than 20 years ago? More with our expert
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  S6: doctor Elizabeth Smith. Coming up.
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  S1: You've got questions. They've got answers. It's Ask the Experts
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  S1: week with Carl and crew.
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  S6: It is Ask the Experts week. And on this Freedom Friday,
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  S6: no one better than to get in an expert counselor.
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  S6: Someone who's got a biblical worldview. By the way, quick
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  S6: note on that expert, Elizabeth Smith. Good to have you
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  S6: with us. What about biblical counseling versus what is known
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  S6: as kind of a absent of truth therapeutic model? Man,
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  S6: I don't know how people get help without having the
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  S6: Bible referred to. What's your conviction on this, Elizabeth?
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  S8: Every Christian, whether they call themselves a biblical counselor or not,
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  S8: should have a Scripture informed biblical worldview. When you have
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  S8: clients coming to talk to you. So I work in
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  S8: the city of Chicago. I work in a secular place,
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  S8: so I cannot lead with the Bible says, because I've
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  S8: worked with every sort of cultural dynamic you can imagine
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  S8: and belief system. But I am a Christian. If they ask,
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  S8: I will tell them I'm a Christian. And any advice?
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  S8: Or as I'm just listening to them, as I'm filtering
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  S8: through their story, I do it through an intentional biblical worldview.
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  S8: So there are some people coming in with situations where
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  S8: they just need some immediate thinking through to help them
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  S8: get out of a crisis mode, or to think about
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  S8: the next step. So I wouldn't put it in competition
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  S8: between someone that says, I am a Christian, and I'm
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  S8: going to use scripture that we call that biblical counseling.
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  S8: Or if you want to be a Christian counselor, as
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  S8: like in my integrative view, is called Christian psychology, in
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  S8: which as I look at psychology, I do so with
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  S8: a very intentional Christian view. And as a Christian, I'm
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  S8: able to go into other places at a biblical counselor
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  S8: could not go into.
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  S6: How many people ask you if you're a born again Christian? Well,
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  S6: they might not say born again. How many people ask
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  S6: you if you're a Christian? Out of ten people, ten clients?
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  S8: Um, maybe one. So this is this is shocking. Most
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  S8: clients do not come in asking anything about the worldview
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  S8: of the counselor at all. And it never has been
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  S8: for almost 40 years now. Nobody asks. They just come
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  S8: knowing they're so desperate for help or they so need
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  S8: to talk, that they want someone who is compassionate, who
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  S8: is supposedly trained, and then they just want help.
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  S6: That's a staggering number. So speak to everyone right now
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  S6: of what they should be looking for in a counselor,
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  S6: because we've got thousands upon thousands right now that are
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  S6: either meeting with some or or looking for some. And
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  S6: I've run into this numbers of times. What should they
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  S6: be looking for?
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  S8: I would ask, what is the worldview of the counselor
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  S8: you'll be talking to? And if the counselor is like,
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  S8: what do you mean by worldview? What is your faith orientation.
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  S8: How do you use your faith within the counseling context?
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  S8: What is your understanding of Scripture? Because that really is
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  S8: the basis. If they if they're not, well, they're not
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  S8: a Christian, or if they don't use they don't understand
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  S8: Scripture at all. It depends on what you're going to write.
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  S8: If you're going to go and you actually need a
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  S8: med check or you need something, it's kind of like
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  S8: going to the dentist. I don't always need my dentist
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  S8: to be talking to me about the Bible. However, if
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  S8: you're really looking at some cognitive restructuring and some self-regulation,
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  S8: you're going to make sure that there's a biblical worldview
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  S8: coming at you, and especially if you're taking your kids
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  S8: or teenagers in, what are they going to be telling them?
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  S8: Are you going to align yourself with the principles of
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  S8: the world when it comes especially to sexuality or gender?
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  S8: Or are you going to look at Scripture as your
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  S8: guiding light of how God defines sexuality and gender? You're
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  S8: going to want to ask those hard questions up front
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  S8: and keep asking them. Even if you have to go
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  S8: through 2025 counselors so that you get a person that's
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  S8: going to be aligned with God's Word, even if they're
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  S8: in a clinic in which it's not going to be
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  S8: pulled out directly.
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  S6: Yeah, I couldn't agree more, sister. Look, I don't care
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  S6: if my house is on fire. Give me the fireman
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  S6: that drinks and chews and goes with girls that dos
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  S6: and all that stuff. I could care less. But when
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  S6: you got a counselor, they need a Christian worldview. And
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  S6: they got to have a working knowledge of the word. Okay.
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  S6: Elizabeth Smith, more coming up. Here's what I want to tackle.
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  S6: You got a vantage point. You've been counseling a few years.
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  S6: I'm not going to offer up how many because I
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  S6: don't know for sure. But from your vantage point, Elizabeth,
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  S6: what are the issues you're having to hit now versus then?
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  S6: More with Elizabeth Smith straight ahead.
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  S1: When you don't know who's better to ask than an expert.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
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  S6: Well, here we are on Freedom Friday, guys. And man,
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  S6: we're going to be getting back to a great guest
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  S6: and expert, doctor, Elizabeth Smith. But I want to tell you,
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  S6: next week is going to be huge. Look, we start
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  S6: on Tuesday. We're listener supported. I'm asking God for a miracle.
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  S6: I'm asking us to move from 67% participation rate, 8%
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  S6: sometimes to 15 to 20. That would be like plate shifting.
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  S6: That would be like, yes, like one of the biggest
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  S6: spiritual earthquakes in North America. But can God do it?
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  S6: He can already have some indications that he's on the move.
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  S6: And I want you to be a part of that.
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  S6: Here's all I ask you to do. Join about 800
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  S6: people who are praying and asking God to work through
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  S6: this effort next week, and I'm asking you to be
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  S6: a part of it. Would you really lean in, be
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  S6: a part of this effort next week, and be in
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  S6: prayer for it along the way with me right now,
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  S6: doctor Elizabeth Smith alright. How long you had your count? Well,
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  S6: I'm not going to ask you that. You've been counseling
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  S6: a long time, right, Elizabeth?
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  S8: Almost 40 years. It's okay. You can say the number.
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  S8: I'm good. I can handle it.
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  S3: We were just.
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  S8: Just a few.
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  S3: Times, all right?
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  S8: My first rodeo.
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  S6: That a girl, I don't. I'm so proud of you. So,
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  S6: 40 years of this counseling. All right. What were the
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  S6: issues 40 years ago? And what are they today?
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  S8: Well, 40 years ago, therapy was often seen as just
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  S8: something that a few people would go to. Um, how
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  S8: we were able to deliver it. It had to be,
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  S8: you know, face to face. Whereas now we have technology.
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  S8: We've actually the clients coming in are far more complex. Um,
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  S8: and we've also had a ton more training when it
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  S8: comes to trauma focused treatment. And probably the biggest challenge
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  S8: that counselors are facing is really understanding diversity and cultural, uh,
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  S8: complexity of multicultural counseling, because people are coming from such different.
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  S8: We really are a melting pot. And so bringing in
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  S8: those different perspectives so that we're doing it well. So
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  S8: it's a bit more complex. We're also seeing a ton
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  S8: more burnout, um, and workforce issues. People are exhausted in
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  S8: their jobs.
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S8: Um, and much more so than even 40 years ago.
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  S6: Oh, this is it's heartache because, um, The needs out
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  S6: there are so immense. Is there something in the church
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  S6: that is broken that can be fixed, that will take
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  S6: the load off of counselors? Because we in our area
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  S6: where we're at both campuses, we've got counseling, uh, clinics,
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  S6: I guess you would call it, they're they're looking for
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  S6: more space constantly right now. What do you say, Elizabeth?
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  S8: Yeah. I think the church needs to see that there's
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  S8: nothing new they need to do. They just really need
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  S8: to promote what they're already doing or who they really are.
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  S8: The church can be a safe place for people to
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  S8: go to, for they need social support. They need the community,
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  S8: the body of Christ. I think if we're not careful,
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  S8: we think that we go to just a person. We
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  S8: have to go to the pastor, we go to the counselor.
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  S8: When really the body of Christ, the spirit works through
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  S8: all of us. And so your small groups, your mentorship,
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  S8: where you're in a, you know, an opportunity to get
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  S8: together with a couple other people, to talk things through
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  S8: the body of Christ as a safe place where people
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  S8: can experience empathy, they can experience empowerment, they can experience
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  S8: problem solving, and they're doing it together within the body
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  S8: of Christ. Do not underestimate the power of a congregation. Amen.
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  S8: And stop putting it down to just 1 or 2 people, which,
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  S8: when you're carrying the load on your shoulders alone, goes
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  S8: back to that issue of burnout and challenges in the workforce.
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  S6: Yeah, I love that because I think we underestimate the
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  S6: power of community in the church. I really do. And
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  S6: I know that we need experts at certain levels. And
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  S6: clearly in counseling there are some issues that come up
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  S6: that way. But I've been blown away as a pastor.
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  S6: How many deep issues can get resolved in loving community?
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  S6: I'm not overstating it, am I, Elizabeth?
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  S8: Not at all. No. Relationships is where the positive relationships
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  S8: we have with one another think about all the one
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  S8: another verses that God gives us. Encourage one another. Bear
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  S8: with one another, love one another. Forgive one another. The
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  S8: one anothers is what we do within our relationships. And yes,
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  S8: you're right, you need to go see a doctor. You
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  S8: need to go see a professional counselor. If there's something
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  S8: that needs to be diagnosed and there is medical treatment
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  S8: out there, and I'm a big fan of that. But
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  S8: within healing relationships, shame is dealt with, guilt is dealt with.
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  S8: Forgiveness is given. Repentance can happen. Confess to one another,
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  S8: give grace to one another. All of those one anothers
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  S8: and the things we do within everyday relationships is really
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  S8: your power that God can use to bring about healing
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  S8: and well-being in someone, so encouraging those. It's a community.
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  S8: It's not a place you go listen to a sermon
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  S8: and come home. It is about being a part of
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  S8: a community that knows you, where you are known and
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  S8: you know others, and you live within those relationships and
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  S8: those people who do have much better mental health than
• 20:23
  S8: those who are trying to do this life alone.
• 20:26
  S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith is our guest. Guys, we got some
• 20:29
  S6: good stuff, so I promise we were going to hit her.
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  S6: Three biggest areas of expertise. We hit children and family
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  S6: just to touch on it. Barely. We hit a little
• 20:39
  S6: bit of this counseling and now we're going to slip
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  S6: into where she is now. Program head for Moody Online
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  S6: and how this may help equip you questions for her
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  S6: coming up.
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  S1: Get in the know with life's biggest questions. It's Ask
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  S1: the Experts week with Carl and crew.
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  S6: It's Freedom Friday and it is. Ask the experts with
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  S6: me today, Doctor Elizabeth Smith. She's the program head for
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  S6: Moody Online. I've been holding on to that because this
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  S6: is the one part of her expertise where she's really going.
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  S6: And boy, if you've heard her fired up already this hour,
• 21:17
  S6: you ain't seen nothing yet. Elizabeth, this has got you
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  S6: on steroids here, doesn't it, for energy?
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  S8: Absolutely. I am all about Moody online and how we
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  S8: are able to train people right where they're at in
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  S8: the Word of God, in whatever calling they have, uh,
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  S8: through online education and moody. I'm just going to say
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  S8: we're the best of the best.
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  S6: Yeah, and it's really cool. This was a big aha
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  S6: moment for myself and Ali when you were in here last. Uh,
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  S6: Ali's getting a little R&R today. She'll be back here Monday,
• 21:45
  S6: but my goodness I you've got to lay it out
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  S6: for all those parents and grandparents and even some students.
• 21:52
  S6: We have kids listening here. You guys are offering something.
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  S6: It's high schoolers, right?
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  S8: Absolutely. More and more high schoolers are taking college classes
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  S8: while they're in high school for two reasons. One, either
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  S8: to finish their high school degree or to get a
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  S8: leg up starting their, uh, their college career. And Moody
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  S8: Online is now starting Moody Online Academy for sophomores, juniors
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  S8: and seniors who meet the qualifications. You have to have
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  S8: a certain GPA and a character reference, but we are
• 22:18
  S8: offering classes so that they can start those college classes
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  S8: and really help them establish a biblical worldview before they
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  S8: jump in to the full college experience.
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  S6: That's the big deal, because there's a lot of parents
• 22:31
  S6: that there's a little bit of tentativeness like, okay, they're
• 22:34
  S6: under my covering here. But when they get out and
• 22:37
  S6: we've we've heard all the stories. And frankly, as a
• 22:40
  S6: pastor and as a parent, I've seen the stories of
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  S6: going into universities with worldviews that are far from the
• 22:46
  S6: Scripture and frankly, that can have negative impact. But they
• 22:50
  S6: get these gen ed studies. I'm talking philosophy, even business
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  S6: classes from Moody Online. And you've got that biblical worldview.
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  S6: That's beautiful, isn't it, Elizabeth?
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  S8: 100%. One of the things I hear parents talking about
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  S8: with their high schoolers and thinking about going to college is,
• 23:08
  S8: what will my child do? And I want to kindly say,
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  S8: I don't really care. I don't really care in comparison
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  S8: to who your child is, who they are, what they believe,
• 23:20
  S8: because what they believe and who they are, the strength
• 23:23
  S8: of their faith is really what determines their future. So
• 23:27
  S8: as they train in what they're going to do. Make
• 23:30
  S8: sure that you protect with everything you have, what they believe,
• 23:35
  S8: and who they are becoming because they are so vulnerable
• 23:39
  S8: when it comes between that high school and that college,
• 23:42
  S8: that bridge toward adulthood. They're so vulnerable. Don't look at
• 23:46
  S8: them and go, just because they have big bodies, they're
• 23:48
  S8: still young. Protect them. It's our job. And so trust
• 23:53
  S8: them to Moody Online, where we will care for their
• 23:55
  S8: soul as much as we will teach them anything in
• 23:58
  S8: the course.
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  S6: I love that. Uh, what are some of the other
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  S6: things that you have going in Moody Online that people
• 24:04
  S6: need to know about? Because I'm going to put a
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  S6: banner ad up here in just a moment.
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  S8: We have a 90 credit three year intro to business
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  S8: course called Business Administration. So you can get your B.S.
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  S8: in Business Administration in just 90 credits three years. And
• 24:19
  S8: we also have a master's in Human services, which is
• 24:22
  S8: for those who want to go into counseling and mental health.
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  S8: It's a great two year program where you can get
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  S8: your master's degree and go out and make that difference
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  S8: in the world.
• 24:30
  S6: Hold it so you can go moody online to get
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  S6: a business degree and to post college, all that basic stuff.
• 24:37
  S6: You can get your master's to get yourself certified for counseling.
• 24:40
  S6: Is that true?
• 24:41
  S8: Yeah, yeah. A master's in human services will lead to
• 24:44
  S8: more community, more social work. A master's in counseling psychology
• 24:49
  S8: will move you toward licensure. And we have both online.
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S6: Wow. This is beautiful. All right, guys, I want you
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  S6: to know that we have got we're not done with
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  S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith. But I want you to know that
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  S6: we have got something sweet for you here. If you
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  S6: text the word moody, you're going to be put onto
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  S6: a website that has everything that she just spoke of
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  S6: and more. In fact, Moody Academy is the that's the
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  S6: icon for those sophomores, juniors, seniors. So you want to
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  S6: check that out. So text Moody to 800 555 7898.
• 25:25
  S6: Text Moody to 800 555 7898. Well, we're on Freedom
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  S6: Friday here and ask the experts. And coming up, I'm
• 25:36
  S6: going to have a little bit more time with Elizabeth
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  S6: to explore this one very important question. What do you
• 25:43
  S6: do as a steward of God's kingdom stuff? When you
• 25:47
  S6: pull away from Moody Radio and you walk away going, wow,
• 25:51
  S6: that helped me. Details straight ahead.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S6: Doctor Elizabeth Smith is my guest today on Ask the Expert.
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  S6: She is program head for Moody Online as as well
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  S6: as program head of children and family ministry for Moody
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  S6: Bible Institute. She's a professor. She's the counselor. She's a
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  S6: deep lover of God, and she's got her priorities aligned.
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  S6: She's been transformed by the power of God, sealed in
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  S6: the Holy Spirit and is committed with her hubby to
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  S6: growing up strong in Jesus Christ. You know Elizabeth, I
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  S6: really am facing next week with a little bit of woe.
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  S6: We got a big one in front of us here.
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  S6: We're listener supported, you know that, and we're looking at
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  S6: $4 million. But I just want you to share your
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  S6: heart with people about why Moody Radio, why invest in this.
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  S8: Moody radio goes beyond any kind of walls that we
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  S8: may put up that the or, as well as it's
• 27:00
  S8: able to help us fight right where we're at against
• 27:02
  S8: all the challenges that the world brings to us. And
• 27:04
  S8: we need to break down walls and fight the enemy,
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  S8: and we need that in our life every moment. And
• 27:09
  S8: Moody Radio can be there with you every step of
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  S8: your journey, day or night. You can turn it on
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  S8: and it's faithful. You don't have to sit there and
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  S8: worry about, oh, what's going to be coming on the
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  S8: screen next? Or coming through my radio next, or what's
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  S8: going on. It is a it is a voice you
• 27:24
  S8: can trust no matter what time of day. If you're
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  S8: in the middle of the night and you are depressed
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  S8: or you're worried or you need prayer, turn on Moody
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  S8: Radio first thing in the morning. Carl and crew hit
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  S8: it strong. Get your mind in the right frame of mind.
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  S8: And let them come along to help you flourish in
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  S8: this life that God has given you. We are meant
• 27:42
  S8: to flourish, and we are able to do that so
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  S8: much more effectively with the help of Moody Radio.
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  S6: Ah. That's beautiful. You know, it's interesting. Um, you know,
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  S6: I will say this one caveat to what you said.
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  S6: You're going to get truth, you're going to get encouragement,
• 27:58
  S6: but you might get a little bit of crazy here
• 28:00
  S6: because we.
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  S3: We.
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  S6: We value authenticity here in a big way. And I've
• 28:05
  S6: been so blown away. It hasn't been even a year
• 28:09
  S6: yet since we, our audience has expanded massively, and we're
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  S6: so grateful for the grace of people that have said, hey,
• 28:17
  S6: we know you're new to us, but we're going to listen.
• 28:20
  S6: And so many have embraced what God's doing here and
• 28:23
  S6: we're so thankful for them. But, boy, ministry in life,
• 28:26
  S6: it's so much bigger than us. To the person who
• 28:29
  S6: kind of has stuck in that Dead Sea mode where
• 28:33
  S6: they're receiving a lot, but they're not giving anything. Tell
• 28:36
  S6: them the principle there is you got to kick something
• 28:38
  S6: out at the end so that you can start living again.
• 28:41
  S6: How does that work practically, Elizabeth?
• 28:44
  S8: I'm going to give a plug to give to Moody
• 28:46
  S8: Radio if you are receiving something. Um, and the apostle
• 28:50
  S8: Paul talks about not muzzling the ox, and I think
• 28:54
  S8: he uses that term meaning for those that are faithfully
• 28:58
  S8: serving and preaching the Word of God and who teaching,
• 29:00
  S8: make sure that we are feeding them. Make sure that
• 29:02
  S8: we are giving everything they they need in order to
• 29:05
  S8: continue to do the work God has called them to do.
• 29:09
  S8: And so, Carl, you do an amazing work. And by
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  S8: the way, thank you. Thank you for not being a
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  S8: cookie cutter radio host. I don't need a cookie cutter
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  S8: radio host. I need somebody that can come in in
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  S8: the morning and talk truth and be who they are,
• 29:21
  S8: because it gives me power. It gives me the ability
• 29:23
  S8: to be who I am. And I'm a little zany
• 29:25
  S8: and crazy, and some people say a bit too much, okay,
• 29:28
  S8: but that's who God made me to be. I want
• 29:30
  S8: every listener to be who God made them to be
• 29:32
  S8: and to flourish. And we need to support you and
• 29:34
  S8: everybody else at Moody Radio to keep doing that. So
• 29:37
  S8: if you have received something from God, you will be
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  S8: blessed 100 fold by not muzzling the ox. Let Carl
• 29:45
  S8: let Moody Radio do what God has called them to
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  S8: do by supporting them with your time, with your words
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  S8: of encouragement, email in text, in telling them how much
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  S8: you love them and praying for them. And three give
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  S8: of your resources. God didn't give you the resources to hoard,
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  S8: but to give out generously. You will never outgive God,
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  S8: and then you get to be a part of the
• 30:03
  S8: work that God is doing.
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  S6: I love it, you know. Super die. I think. I
• 30:07
  S6: want you to chime in here, sister. It's been awesome
• 30:10
  S6: having Doctor Elizabeth Smith, but, um, she mentioned something that's important,
• 30:14
  S6: and we aren't going to do any asking, but we've
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  S6: got a key word that we can text for sure,
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  S6: can't we?
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  S7: We absolutely do. That keyword is moody. It is. Moody.
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  S7: Gets you to all the connections. As far as Moody online,
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  S6: All week long, ask the experts. And it's been a
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  S6: joy to have Elizabeth in with us today. I want
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