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His Intuition, or His Intentions...with Clayton Echard (Perfect Match Episode 2 Recap) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast. It's been and
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  Speaker 2: Ashley is here with me. Today we are covering another
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  Speaker 2: episode of Netflix's show The Perfect Match. This time we
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  Speaker 2: are joined by one of the contestants and also a
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  Speaker 2: part of Bachelor Nation. Clayton Eckerd is with us today.
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  Speaker 2: We aren't going to get into a ton of spoilers
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  Speaker 2: because we're going in order. But the listeners, I'm telling
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  Speaker 2: you you got to join on watch the episodes, follow
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  Speaker 2: along with us. Have you've seen them already. We are
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  Speaker 2: going to be releasing a breakdown of every episode of
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  Speaker 2: Perfect Match. We have a very very good opportunity today though,
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  Speaker 2: to have one of the focal points of The Perfect
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  Speaker 2: Match this season. He was on just a few months
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  Speaker 2: of ago to speak with us about some things going
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  Speaker 2: on in his life. I think it was hinted at
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  Speaker 2: in that interview that you were going to be joining
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  Speaker 2: some type of project that we knew nothing about. Clayton,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast. And when you hinted that you
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  Speaker 2: had a project coming out that we knew nothing about,
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  Speaker 2: was this what we were talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was being cryptic about So I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I just think it's fun to like drop
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  Speaker 3: bread crops and see if anyone picks up on it.
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  Speaker 4: But I also like say enough without saying too much.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: The funny part, Clayton is that I will I can't
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  Speaker 2: get into details, but I'll drop some breadcrumbs. We had
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  Speaker 2: a knowledge of Rachel being on the show way long ago,
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  Speaker 2: like I mean, I don't know when was this filmed.
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  Speaker 4: Last September of twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big span.
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  Speaker 5: I heard that there might be a baby about to
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  Speaker 5: be born from the Perfect Match.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that that is how long it has been.
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  Speaker 2: And so we knew Rachel was going to be a
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  Speaker 2: I really had no clue you were going to be
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  Speaker 2: on the show, Like I had never heard that you
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  Speaker 2: were going to be on the show. I had no
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  Speaker 2: idea that you were going to be on the show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what was kind of like a trick.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if this was purposeful, but Blake
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  Speaker 3: Moins was the name that everyone threw out for like
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  Speaker 3: the other individual, which, come to find out, I think
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  Speaker 3: he was being talked to actually, so that wasn't that
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  Speaker 3: wasn't just like that wasn't just a misdirection. But I
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  Speaker 3: think that like the second people heard that, they're like,
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  Speaker 3: that's who it is, the other person coming.
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  Speaker 4: So nobody, you know, took up anything beyond that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's been so long that you've shaved, had a haircut,
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  Speaker 2: no longer looked like the same guy. Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: So we're in episode two right now, Clayton of the Breakdown,
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  Speaker 2: We're going to keep you around to break down this episode.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot to talk to you about when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to the Perfect Match and kind of the
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  Speaker 2: living situations. When we planned to have you on, it
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  Speaker 2: was to just co host an episode with us and
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  Speaker 2: to break down the episode. Obviously, this week things have
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  Speaker 2: kind of changed and we have to kind of ask
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  Speaker 2: you about some of the controversies that have come out.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want to give too many spoilers because we
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  Speaker 2: aren't even at a point in this season where Rachel
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  Speaker 2: is a part of the show.
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  Speaker 4: Yet, but we do.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think any person that's falling along with
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  Speaker 2: the Perfect Match or following along with Bachelor News knows
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  Speaker 2: that something happened between the two of you that you
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  Speaker 2: are now kind of responding to publicly. So we are
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  Speaker 2: going to ask a little bit about that, and then
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  Speaker 2: we do want to keep you around for the breakdown
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  Speaker 2: of the episode. I guess to start here. You have
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  Speaker 2: done a ton of work on yourself. You mention it
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  Speaker 2: on The Perfect Match that you feel like you're a
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  Speaker 2: changed human from the Bachelor. You obviously have kind of
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  Speaker 2: you have this following from your dance videos. That seems
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  Speaker 2: to be something that people love to talk about, especially
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  Speaker 2: they're in The Perfect Match. You didn't have a great
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  Speaker 2: experience as the Bachelor, you said, why would you go
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  Speaker 2: on another reality show?
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  Speaker 3: I felt that enough time had passed where I was
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  Speaker 3: a different person, or at least, like I say, the
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent real version of me. I felt that
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  Speaker 3: I was eighty percent who I wanted to be on
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  Speaker 3: The Bachelor. Like, looking back now, there are moments where
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  Speaker 3: I just felt like I couldn't fully be myself because
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to appease others. I feel like I've
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  Speaker 3: gotten rid of that now. I don't think I have
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  Speaker 3: people pleasing tendencies anymore. And you know, lots happened in
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  Speaker 3: three years, and so I felt it'd be really cool
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to put myself back out there and say like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: let's see how this version of me is perceived. Like
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  Speaker 3: I do want in a way, I like to go
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  Speaker 3: on reality television because it challenges me to step outside
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  Speaker 3: of my comfort zone and it really puts you in
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  Speaker 3: a position where it's like, you know, how do you
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  Speaker 3: operate in an unknown environment? Because my day to day
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  Speaker 3: is pretty much the same for the most part. I
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  Speaker 3: mean I have like three to and jobs, but I
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  Speaker 3: know how to do them all at this point. So this
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  Speaker 3: going on realite television basically challenges me to see like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: have you mastered these certain capabilities that you've worked on
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  Speaker 3: so hard? So that's what it was. And then Perfect
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  Speaker 3: Match also was like, hey, we just want you to dance.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we sell your dance videos. That's how you
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  Speaker 3: popped up on our radar. So I was like, cool,
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  Speaker 3: I get to like go in the show, be goofy
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  Speaker 3: and dance like that's my personality.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that that's why you popped up on
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  Speaker 5: their radar. I'm sure they're looking for a past bachelor lead.
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  Speaker 3: Too, but that's what they They just asked me. They
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  Speaker 3: were like, hey, well you dance if you come on
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  Speaker 3: the show. I was like, yeah, absolutely, Like that's that's
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  Speaker 3: a given. So I did, you know all my entronts
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, I mean like I was dancing
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  Speaker 3: a couple of times so throughout the season. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, that was it was at least like
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  Speaker 3: they're like, hey, look, just we wanted to be yourself.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought, I was like, oh cool, I get
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  Speaker 3: to like showcase subside of me that you know that
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  Speaker 3: I think is just fun and not to be taken
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  Speaker 3: too seriously.
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  Speaker 5: So now that there's nine episodes that have aired, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: how do you feel about your decision?
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  Speaker 4: I'm fine with it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know what it is
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  Speaker 3: like I personally. I know we can't get into spoilers,
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  Speaker 3: but I'll just say like I stand by all my
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  Speaker 3: decisions and I don't want to sit here and play
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  Speaker 3: a blame game. But I do feel like I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what I've done to editors, but I'm like, I
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  Speaker 3: just feel like things gonna have been perceived differently. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 3: my experience is what I experienced, and I'm fine with it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was very mad when the episodes came
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  Speaker 3: out at first, you know, I went on like an
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  Speaker 3: unfollow spree, and I was sitting out emails being like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not responding, I'm cancel all my interviews. But thankfully,
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  Speaker 3: after like a day, I basically just got I told myself, look, Clayton,
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  Speaker 3: like your real life version of you and your online
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  Speaker 3: persona slash reality TV persona aren't the same person. I
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  Speaker 3: was hoping that I could get them to be aligned,
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  Speaker 3: but it didn't seem that way. So there's no place
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  Speaker 3: for nuance on reality television from what I've experienced. So
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  Speaker 3: it's black or white, and I'm like, look, I unfortunately
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  Speaker 3: I was portrayed in a way that I felt I
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  Speaker 3: didn't want it to be portrayed that way.
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  Speaker 4: But like now I am, and so be it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. I understand reality television has a thousand
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  Speaker 2: different ways of telling a story. It doesn't feel though
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  Speaker 2: it does feel like there was pain that was caused.
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  Speaker 2: So how do you deal with the pain that I
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  Speaker 2: guess the television or that you I don't know, I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there caused others in the process. Because even if
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  Speaker 2: you feel like your persona was not accurate, somebody was
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  Speaker 2: hurt by decisions made.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I absolutely hurt somebody, and you know that
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  Speaker 3: comes with ratifications. I felt that I took accountability by apologizing,
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  Speaker 3: by stating, you know, hey, like this was a mistake
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  Speaker 3: on mine. I'm sorry that I you know, I did
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  Speaker 3: these things, and then I tried to make it right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, again, I can't spoil because I know we're
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  Speaker 3: not going ahead here, but you know, I did something
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  Speaker 3: that I thought was my way of being able to
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  Speaker 3: honor the whole situation and say, look like, I messed up,
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  Speaker 3: so this is the least that I can do. Unfortunately, again,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was portrayed in the way where
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  Speaker 3: it could have been portrayed, and so I was like, look,
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand why we're not showing some of the.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff, but I'm not the editors.
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  Speaker 3: So I ultimately just said, look like, I felt like
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  Speaker 3: I took accountability, and I felt this person individual as
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  Speaker 3: well took accountability. Again that in that conversation was not shown,
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  Speaker 3: which I thought was critical, but it wasn't shown. So ultimately,
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  Speaker 3: again I have to just basically answer to what was shown.
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  Speaker 3: But I am a little bit different this time around,
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  Speaker 3: you know, versus the Bachelor I was just taking full
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  Speaker 3: you know, accountability for everything that was happened, even if
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  Speaker 3: I felt like there was you know, two took two
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  Speaker 3: to tango or multiple people. I'm just not in that
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  Speaker 3: place anymore. I don't feel I should take accountability for
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  Speaker 3: things where it's like this was a shared responsibility. And
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  Speaker 3: I also think like, had you seen what was what
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  Speaker 3: I believed happened, you know, I wouldn't be taking as
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  Speaker 3: much heat. So I'm just in a place where I'm like, look,
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  Speaker 3: I'm confident I stand on what I did, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't feel I should take one hundred percent accountability for
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  Speaker 3: the situations that occurred. I just feel like it's there's
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  Speaker 3: there's multiple people involved. So I don't know, I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I've taken the accountability I need to.
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  Speaker 5: Did you know that Rachel was going to be on
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  Speaker 5: the show? No?
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  Speaker 3: No, I had no idea. Maybe that was naive for that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean again, I you know, people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: how would you not think that they'd bring her on?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, because I was going on a Netflix show,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, you know, I didn't think that like I
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  Speaker 3: came with like a package deal. I thought it was like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: look like we were bringing you on, you were the
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  Speaker 3: former Bachelor, Like, this will be fun, this is a crossover.
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  Speaker 3: I figured obviously there could be people from other TV
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  Speaker 3: shows outside of Netflix, but I didn't think it was
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  Speaker 3: gonna be one of my maxes like that, that part
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  Speaker 3: I did not expect. I really genuinely was shocked when
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  Speaker 3: she showed up and obviously knew that.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, now I understand more why I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel like a punching bag still? Like do
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  Speaker 2: you feel after this that you just can't get out
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  Speaker 2: of this? Like get hit from all sides.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I think a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the you know, the critiques against me are unwarranted.
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  Speaker 3: I really do. I mean, again, at this point, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not willing to take the brun of things that I
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  Speaker 3: don't feel like should be placed on my shoulders. I
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  Speaker 3: think I did that as the Bachelor the first time around,
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  Speaker 3: and I just let everyone just beat me down and
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  Speaker 3: punch me and kicked me into a corner. And it's
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  Speaker 3: like I still this day. I mean, I'm like I
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  Speaker 3: did things wrong, but my gosh, like the rate response
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  Speaker 3: I got was way overblown, Like I shouldn't be getting
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  Speaker 3: death threats. I shouldn't be saying I'm never deserving of love.
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  Speaker 3: I was like unfairly treated I think by many many
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  Speaker 3: people online, and it's like, look, quit projecting your insecurities
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  Speaker 3: onto me. I think there was a lot of just
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  Speaker 3: negativity forced my way, but I took it. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be better, I'll do this. So I didn't know myself,
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  Speaker 3: so I was saying I was apologizing for everything, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm just now out of place now where again, like
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  Speaker 3: I understand the way that I'm speaking right now. People
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  Speaker 3: go like, oh, he's not taking any accountability, and it's
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  Speaker 3: like I don't agree with that. I'm like, no, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not taking full accountability like what you think I need
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  Speaker 3: to take because I don't believe I should, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, And I just I feel confident where I'm at.
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  Speaker 3: But like I I'm fine if I'm the punching bag again,
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  Speaker 3: Like it is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: I took.
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  Speaker 3: I was mad for a day when I saw the
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  Speaker 3: edit and I woke up the next morning and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, Clayton, maybe you and dating TV, your reality.
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  Speaker 4: Television just don't mix. It just is what it is, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe be done forever or maybe you know, don't don't
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  Speaker 3: ever just do a different dating or not a dating show,
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  Speaker 3: but do another like show if it comes around.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm totally fine with.
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  Speaker 3: Like this being the end of my experience as far
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  Speaker 3: as reality television. I don't need to prove anything to anybody.
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping I could put out, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: more real version of me. I just didn't feel like
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  Speaker 3: it I was able to do that based on what
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  Speaker 3: was shown.
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  Speaker 2: Has the has the feedback been as loud as the Bachelor, Like,
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  Speaker 2: does it feel similar?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think Bachelor audience like not all of them.
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  Speaker 3: There are some really great people that are fans of
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  Speaker 3: the show, but I think there are some of like
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  Speaker 3: the angriest fans, like some of them, like they just
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  Speaker 3: have so much hate.
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  Speaker 4: I will say, though again it's not It also is
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  Speaker 4: not as.
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  Speaker 3: Major because like I'm not the lead. I wasn't the lead,
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  Speaker 3: so I don't feel it as much. I still get
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  Speaker 3: the comments. I mean, I could go show you my
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  Speaker 3: phone right now. I can pull it up and I
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  Speaker 3: bet you the first four comments I'll I'll be negative.
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  Speaker 3: It's like they're coming in, but I just don't care anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like it doesn't. It doesn't do anything to me.
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  Speaker 3: Like unless people say certain things, like I just had
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  Speaker 3: a girl that just, you know, basically told me to
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  Speaker 3: take my life. So I commented on that there's a
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  Speaker 3: few things that will trigger me, but no, it's just noise.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, look, my life, personal life is really
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  Speaker 3: great right now, succeeding at a high level and work,
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  Speaker 3: and so I'm like, it's crazy how I'm getting ripped online,
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  Speaker 3: but yet my life is better than ever in real life.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm just like, look, it's a separation, and if
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  Speaker 3: you all want me to be the villain, then I'll
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  Speaker 3: be the villain in your eyes.
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  Speaker 4: Like it is what it is.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a little bit interested in how you didn't expect
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  Speaker 5: Rachel to be there, not that it was like an
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  Speaker 5: obvious choice, but I'm just saying that, like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it could have been an option. I want to know
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  Speaker 5: whether or not you had ever thought about rekindling things
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  Speaker 5: with Rachel in real life. I know I'm jumping ahead
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  Speaker 5: a little bit, but like, just if you were to
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  Speaker 5: sign up for the show knowing that Rachel would be
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  Speaker 5: could be there, would you have ever been like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, Like I would like to revisit that anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we did meet each other see each other in events, which.
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  Speaker 2: It was our events.
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  Speaker 5: I asked, because we watched you guys talk for a
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  Speaker 5: long time, the two of you, it seemed, you know,
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  Speaker 5: not like overtly flirty, but like quite friendly, quite intense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think you guys are rehashing the show for the
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  Speaker 5: first time in front of without cameras present.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we were like.
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  Speaker 5: Hummm, could there still be Was that the only time
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  Speaker 5: you guys you had ever interacted since this show?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And that was yeah, that was like we had that
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  Speaker 3: whole night and we were having great conversations, and I
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  Speaker 3: just remember there was the end of the night where
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  Speaker 3: we were like, you know, all going back to our
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  Speaker 3: respective rooms and it was just like we both looked
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  Speaker 3: at each other kind of like no, no, and that
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  Speaker 3: was that, you know, it was kind of like this hesitation.
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  Speaker 4: And that was that was the end of it.
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  Speaker 3: So I I I think, like, for me again, this
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  Speaker 3: is where I really do believe everything happens to reason.
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  Speaker 4: I'll stand on that. It was the screen saver on
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  Speaker 4: my on my phone.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I if I said that you
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  Speaker 3: had an episode two I forget which episode that was,
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  Speaker 3: but I I really genuinely thought, like when she showed up,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, wow, like this isn't by accident. It's
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  Speaker 3: like bumping into somebody and you think it's fate. And
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  Speaker 3: I genuinely did, like I guess I'm maybe naive it's people,
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  Speaker 3: Like why would you think it's faate?
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  Speaker 4: It's producers.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I get it's producers, but like they
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  Speaker 3: could have they could have picked anybody.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that as a screen saver of my phone.
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  Speaker 3: It's yeah for real, Yeah, I mean again, it's like
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  Speaker 3: I just genuinely was like on this spiritual journey and thought,
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  Speaker 3: man like, it's like bumping into an X in a
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: different state. Like you you're see you meet, you bump
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: into them, You're you're traveling and you're like.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Why are you here? And it's like, yeah, why are
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: you here?
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: And you sit down and you start to think, like
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: did the universe bring us together for a greater purpose?
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Like I guess we'll just like talk and see where
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: it goes.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: And that's really what happened.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: So I feel like it was just a reflection of like,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: this is what would happen if two Axes bumped into
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: each other and felt like the moment was bigger than them,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: this would be the resulting effect.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: As we enter into breaking down this episode, because again
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I would love if we have the opportunity to get
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: you back on to talk about some of the stuff
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: that we will see in following episodes. Obviously people can
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: watch it, it's streaming, it's out there, but we are
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: going to go in chronological order, so I don't want
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: to go too far into your relationships, what happens, what
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't happen, because at this point in the season, you're
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: still with Juliet and that has its own mix of
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: wildness and weirdness and questions I have for you. But
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: as we enter into breaking down the episode, I do
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: want to set the stage for where you're at personally
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: as we're on episode two. First off, my first question
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: for you is who is advising you right now? I mean, obviously,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: even in episode two, you feel like you don't fit
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: to me. I mean that's my opinion, and that's not
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: a knock on you. I wouldn't fit there. This episode
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: gets into things and it feels like you're just uncomfortable
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: the whole time. The reason I say that is because
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: you do bring up the fact that you're on a
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: spiritual journey that you are. You know, they are making
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: comments other cast members, and it does come off the
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: way you're more serious about, Hey, I want to actually
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: have a relationship here, And it seems like to me
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: watching the Perfect Match, there is a potential for relationship
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: with some of these couples, but it's also like a
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: really easy place to hook up with somebody else attractive.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And I want to get your opinion on that. But
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: as you enter into this season, and as you now
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: are outside of the season getting the criticism, who's advising
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: you or who's speaking into your life that has helped
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: you change so drastically.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I mean it's been a you know, community effort from
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: like friends, family, therapists, a lot of just self work
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: as well podcasts. I was listening to Jay Shehtty's On
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Purpose podcast I've listened to. I mean, I would break
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: down outside of mindfulness and I would look into like
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: the psychology of the mind, like the Anatomy of the Mind,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Andrew Huerman talking about like the science behind it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I went on this like very deep dive.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I did plant medicines like I went as deep as
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I could and just like tried to basically decondition myself
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: from all the things that I had grown up to
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: be told to believe that I felt like it's either
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: right or wrong, black or white, and I was like, no,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't agree with this. I think there's
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of gray area in life, and so I'm
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: going to go, like, you know, figure out the nuances here,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: and this is what I was taught growing up. But
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: I don't, you know, support this anymore. I reject this,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: you know out narrative. I want to basically see like
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: what I feel.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Works for me. So it's also been a lot of
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: strangers too.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: It's been a lot of people that I go to
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: a breath work session and it's like I know the
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: one person that invited me, but I don't know the
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: other ten people. And then afterwards we're all sharing our
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: experiences and it's just like you know, you you realize
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: there's there's a group for everything. So as I went
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: on the spiritual journey like I where I came from,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't embark on that, you know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: they don't go really in depth.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that think very similarly. So
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I found myself.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Being surrounded by a lot of different individuals that, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: don't look like me, don't act like me.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: But I was comfortable with that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I was like, look, I feel comfortable with with who
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I am in this environment, and I can, you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: gain a lot from the people around me that maybe
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: you know, have a completely different upbringing, but I can
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: try to figure out, you know, where the commonalities are
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: amongst us.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Sounds like you went on an ayahuasca journey.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Not aahuasca I mean, do you want to know what
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Floyd plant medison I actually did. I don't care, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: can share it. I mean I've I've done shrooms, yeah,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: like multiple times, and psilocybin, I guess is the correct
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: the correct term.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: But it was it was huge.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I mean it like really broke me down, and you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: had to ego death and you start to realize, like
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of these beliefs you have are rooted and
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: falsities and things that like You're like, look, once I
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: believe in myself, a lot of this stuff goes away.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I've done that, and I'm not you know again,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: I think there's a point in my life I was
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: like I would never admit that. Now I'm like, this
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: is what it is. I mean, it doesn't make it druggy.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I've done it a couple of times and it's like
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: it's helped me learn a lot, although breathwork was even
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: more powerful.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Surprisingly, Yeah, Breathwork's been a big This's been something I've
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: implemented through the last few years. Now, you speak of
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: a spiritual journey, you speak of it on the show,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and you speak of it during this episode. Has it
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: led you to any faith tradition or when you say
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: spiritual journey, use words like the universe bringing us together
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that you know this might be fate, even through the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: eyes and hands of a producer saying, Hey, how cool
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: is it we have Cleyton Rachel both willing to come
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: on this show. Let's do it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Where has this kind of led you as you enter
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: into episode two of The Perfect Match?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like I've got a stronger
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: connection with with God. You know, I wouldn't say I
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: followed organized religion anymore, but I feel that I have
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: a very very strong connection with the higher power. You know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: it's the same higher power've always prayed to. I just
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: maybe viewed a bit differently, but you know, I took
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: my journal with me and journaled along the way. That
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: was you know, I still shout him out every time.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Brandon Jones on The Bacheorette is the one that taught
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: me to journal because he basically deconstructed my mind.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, is that a diary.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: He's like, you can call it whatever you want, man,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: But like I had, you know this, I was like, oh, guys,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: don't write in journals.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: And you know, again, I had a long way to go.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: So like he taught me that, so I started journaling,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: but I basically just yeah. I mean, I was like, look,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I've always been so concerned about what's coming or what
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I did in the past. I've never focused on being present.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: So when I went on the show, I was like, look,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: focus on just being in the moment. You don't know
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: what tomorrow is going to bring. Especially on reality television.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: They're going to throw wrenches, They're gonna throw one eighties
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: curve balls, like you can try to All you can
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: do is basically handle each moment. So I was I
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: walked into the experience being like, just focus on the
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: moments in front of you and you know. I mean
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: you can try to foreshadow or forecast what's coming, but really, again,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: like we all know this, We've all been on reality television.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: It's like, can we really predict what's coming down the line?
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: The shows want to twist things out because they want
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: us to get you know, get knocked off our rockers,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: So we respond in a way that you know, basically
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: causes drama.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, to get into the recap a little bit. So
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Juliette tells you, because you're so deep, You're like so serious,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: I just want to have fun. How did you feel
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: about that? That conversation would have made me feel uncomfortable.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I watched it back and I thought
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: it was funny because I even said, you know, like
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I asked to Lucy on episode one.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I was like I love to ask who are you?
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: And she was just like, yeah, I understand how that
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: question could be.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really a deep question to me that I
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: really like to ask people. But it was just kind
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: of like, yeah, I don't think this is the time
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: and place man, which was fine, Like I it was
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: like I kind of sound like this little Lulu guy
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: right now. That's like not my energy is not being
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: received in the you know, in the way that I'd
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: want it to. But that's fine. Like I'm not everyone's
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: cup of tea. So when Juliet said that, I was
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: just like, yeah, I mean I am. And if that's
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: that bothers you, this won't work.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I wrote a lone and plain sight about asking
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the question of who are you if everything else is
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: stripped away? I think it's a great question. I do
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: think reality television end of the Perfect Match might be
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a tough place to start talking about it immediately? Am
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I wrong Clayton in saying through episode one and episode
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: two you were the outsider, not in terms of friends
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: or like likability or how you get along with people
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: in the house. It just felt like you were kind
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: of the lost puppy, going from girl to girl being like, Hey,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I want to be here next week because I think
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: something night work, but I haven't found like a real
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: match yet. Juliett definitely doesn't sound like I feel like
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: a real match to you. She even says that she's
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: not sure about it. She's excited for this date with Carrington,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and I have all sorts of thoughts on Carrington on
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: how a guy can admit that he's a self aware
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: douchebag and he loves love bombing girls to get them
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: to like him, and that somehow he gets away with it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I think that's and like how you are the one
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: getting the heat from this season. Maybe because you're just
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: a bigger name, but goodness gracious, I was like, how
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: is this guy not the one that like never shows
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: up on reality television ever? Again, either way, it feels
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: like you're just misplaced there, man, it does. From episode
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: one to episode two. It just doesn't feel like you fit.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen you some chatter about that, and I
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: never felt like I was on the outside. I mean,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and you mentioned Neil, you're asking more or not from
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: a friends standpoint. I mean, everyone on the show welcomes
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: me right in.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: You know. I took my shot early.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I said, look, Clay, like, I'm gonna be bold and
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna come out the gates and I'm gonna say,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: like who I'm interested in?
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: So when Nick Lache asked you are you interested in?
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I was like, Lucy, and I thought.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: At that point, I was like, okay, look I'm locking
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: and I'm throwing all my chips in one basket. And
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: that backfired so it's like, which is fine. Like again,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: like Daniel is a good looking dude. I kind of
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: feel like I'm the costco version of Daniel. I was like,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: he had the you know, had the same hair style
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: and he's a model, and I was.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Like, definitely, I was like Clayton for a sec I
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: had a like double.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Take yeah, yeah, and he's a good looking man. So
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, it doesn't it is what it is,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: you know. I wasn't upset by it, But after I
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: threw all my ages in one basket, I was like, well, shoot,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: now all the girls are just like, well, you were
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: so interested in Lucy, why would I match with you?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And you know, and then Juliet and I basically became
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: the default match where it's like nobody at the end
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: of the night, it was just the two of us,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: and I was We're like, hey, I guess we got
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: to match.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: This is the nicest back maybe backhanded compliment. The girls
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: are chatting its Madison and Juliet and she says Clayton's
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: too serious because he came from the Bachelor, and I'm like, yes,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: we have depth, guys, We were wholesome, we have valleys,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: we appreciate love.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know, I didn't. I didn't feel that way.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I thought like, hey, we're all reality TV goers. But
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: there was like conversations happening where they're like, he's from
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the Bachelor, He's so serious, and I'm like, is this
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: how we're portrayed? Like we're portrayed like we're just too.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Rigid and we're not loose. I'm like, guys, I'm here.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I'm here with all of you. All. I kind of
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: thought I let loose out the gate. You know, I'm
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: out here using.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: An ice cube, running up you know, Lucy's leg, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: then I'm getting a belly shot taken out from me.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I was like, I thought I was right there. I'm like,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I'm in this guys, you know, like I'm right here
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: with all of you. I'm not. I'm not, you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I'm letting looseen have a good time. So I I yes,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not as wild as some of these guys,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: but that's just me in general, that's my personality.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched that opening and I was like, this
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: is the moment where I realized why I didn't pursue
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: any other reality television when I was single, Like I
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: would be so so cautious.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think for me, this was like this
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: show I knew what I was getting into. I watched
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: season two and I was like, I know, this is
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: like a little bit rong chier, but I'm like, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: also am comfortable and I can answer this. And worst
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: case scenario, I tell my mom and grandma not to
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: watch the show.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of things I would not want
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: anybody watching. Now what happens? Give us a sneak peek.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: You and Juliet obviously kind of just like partner up
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: last two standing. It's not like you don't find her
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: attractive or she doesn't find you attractive. You know, there
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: was a little bit of a spark there. It made
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: sense that you two would partner up. One of the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: wildest parts of the show to me is that you
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: meet somebody eight hours before and then that night when
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you match. On the first night, especially, you're sleeping in
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the same bed as them. Is that like? What is
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that like?
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: How do you how does that work?
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm personally just comfortable. I'm like, you could
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: probably put me in a room with anybody and I'll
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: talk to him for two hours and be like, all right,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: we can sleep. Yeah, we're good, Like, what are you
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: gonna do? Take me out in the middle of the night.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Like I didn't person have an issue with it. I
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: don't know how Juliette felt, but I think also, like,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: you know, we are all having some drinks. So I
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: mean to say that anybody was sober night one, that
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: was probably just Freddie Sorry he wasn't there yet. I
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: don't know if there was a single sober soul night
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: one in that house. So it makes things a little
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: bit simpler when you got a little bit of like
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: a courage.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's like a wild thought to me
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that all of a sudden you're in this room, closed doors,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you just met each other. But everybody's excited. So maybe
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that helps to everybody knows what they're getting into. As
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: we get in this episode, we see right away you
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: know that we understand that you and Juliette maybe aren't
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the forever perfect match, and so she set up on
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: a date with this Carrington guy. As I said Carrington,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not putting any words in his mouth. His exact
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: quote is, I am a self aware douchebag. I love bomb.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: He says, out of these girls I watch this, it
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: was out of any moment so far in episode one
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: and two, this was the moment I was like, how
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: is this okay? Really? Was my question, like, how is
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: this fine? This isn't even funny.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: It's because he admits it. Like if he admits it,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: people aren't gonna hate on it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, like when you're self aware, you're self aware,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: people go oh, at least you know it, so then
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: they don't attack you.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: For it's when you deny it that people go after you.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, that's and so he's just like, yeah, look,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: I probably am this way, but you know, I mean
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I have other aspects of me as well that are
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: fun and that you all can get to know.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I just happen to be a self aware douchebag.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: But he's I mean, ultimately on this date with Juliet
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and you've watched it back now, he doesn't act like
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a douchebag on dates, so he and he doesn't tell
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: her that, right, So he's telling that to the camera
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to the viewers, but the person he's on the date
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: with is not aware that he realizes he's a jerk
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and that he is going to stare into her eyes
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: and do this I don't know cockneck thing, because he
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: thinks he's a beautiful man and she's going to fall
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: in love with him, and he's going to tell her
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: all the sweet things and then ultimately, if somebody better
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: comes along, he'll break her heart. You watch this date,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: what was your take after watching it? Realizing that then
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and this is in the episode, she comes back to
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you at the end of the you know, at the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: end of this Yeah, I.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Was shocked because I mean, essentially her and I had
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: talked about how we were the default match, and everyone
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: now now believes that, like we don't even want to
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: be matched with one another. But this is, you know,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: all about the perfect match, and you know, we we
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: know that there's there's gonna be competitions coming up in
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: boardrooms that people are going to try to vote us
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: out or put us on dates, and so it's like, hey,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: look like we know that we're going to be a target.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Let's just get to know one another and like let's
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: give this a shot. Like, look, okay, here we are.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: We didn't we weren't with each other's first choice. Our
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: matches actually end up being the ones that chose each
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: other and we you know, we're second pick. But yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: once once we matched, it was like Juliette was fun.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: She is wild.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: She has a wild side tour, which I find I
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: chase after more so these days now, after like reality television.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Once I get off TV and I'm back in the
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: real world, I'm like, gosh, I need some chaos somewhere,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: So sometimes I.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: On with my partner, and sometimes I find I.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Go after women that are a little chaotic, and it's like,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I cause, I'm just like, look, they're probably not the
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: best for me mental health wise, but like they're fun.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: You know, like every time I go out, I don't
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: know what kind of version of them I'm getting. And so,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you know, like Juliette had that fun I'm like, I'm
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: on a reality TV show, like this is a fun environment,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Like she's going to keep things entertaining. I was shocked
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: when she matched with me. I was shocked. I really
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: thought I was getting booted out that that night. So
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: when she was just like I feel like, you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: we just are mesh better, I was like, Okay, I
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I couldn't. But that also meant a lot to me
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: in that moment. I was like, wow, she chose me
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: because I thought based on the way that her and
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: I both spoke but talked. She was like, look, second,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: like one of us ends up finding a better match route,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and I'll basically tell you. I'll give you like as
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: much of the heads up as I can.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: So that's what we said.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: When somebody comes in the house, will base in, We're like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: we know we're going to match with them. Where we
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: go and tell the other one like were like, hey,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: look I'm gonna match with them, just so you know.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: So now you have a couple hours to you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: basically find your match in this house. And she didn't
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: really say that to me that night, so I was like,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: is she really gonna do this to me? She's gonna
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: do me dirty, She's gonna match last second with Carrington
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: and be like sorry Clayton.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: But she she didn't. She she went with me.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: She just took down to the last second to do so.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: But that was surprising. I still don't really know why.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, she surprised me.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I know why.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, maybe, I mean again, now I think about it,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, they must have been like, hey, look
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: we need.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: To just stay We need him to stay, so we
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: need them.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably Clayton's going home one episode before we thought
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: he would.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this though, there was hardly any
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: producer involvement, hardly ever at all. Like I will say
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: this straight up from Bachelor to Netflix. We all know
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Bachelor producers love to stick their fingers and stuff. There
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: wasn't a single time on the show where the where
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: the producers interjected. I had like not once on that
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I can remember on that on Netflix. So if maybe
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: they went to her, but I never had anybody talk
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: to me the entire time.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: That I was there.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Interesting, So I had no issue with the producers. I
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: in fact don't even have any issues with the bat
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Bachelor producers. It's the editing team that I'm like, I
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: need to meet you all because you guys keep seeing
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: me as a piece of meats. You've seen me as
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: a number, so you're like, whatever, we'll just wreck this guy.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I need you to. I need to sit
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: on a plane with you all, Like I sat with
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: these producers and you can see I'm human, and then
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: you'll be like, oh, he doesn't he's not the kind
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: of guy that he looks like because I feel like
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: they're just like it's really easy to just like portray
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: me as something. I'm like, I have nuance, and I'm
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: like I like the producers all seasons. I like the
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Bachelor producers. That's why it was so hard for me.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Then I had to really realize, I'm like, it's editors.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Well there was.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: If the producers tell the editors how to edit, don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: they I don't. I mean maybe my guess is that
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: like it's the show runner and like the higher ups
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: that say, like, this is how we want this person
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: to look.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again the editors.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Again, I can't sit here and like go after them
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: because it's like there's somebody of them that's saying, like
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: this is the way that we want him to be
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: portrayed exactly. So it's I'm not trying to call that
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: it's just the editors.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: It's easy.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like it's like when people go after us,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: you know, on the show and like f him, and
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: it's like you're really mad at the producers, but you're
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: attacking me because I'm the you know, the figurehead of
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: the season.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: So like it's it's misplaced for me to go after these.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Editors, like, I'm sure most of them are great, but somebody,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: you know, it's like that I'm not interacting with, is
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: making these decisions and it's just, you know, it's frustrating.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: You're like, one person can make or break you. But
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: at whatever, it is, what it is. But yeah, there
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of producer involvement on Netflix, at least
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: not to my face. That nobody came up to me
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: and talked to me while I was there.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: We've heard that, we've heard that. Now there is an
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: interesting twist in this episode for me. You mentioned Freddie
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: would be the one that would have been sober on
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: night one. Freddie also comes off to me. He's one
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of those that enters into the house this week. He
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: set up on a date with Madison. Madison at this point,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: you know is has chosen Freddy as her date. He
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: he comes off on television. You correct us here, we're
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: trying to break down the episode and get to know
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: these people a little better. As a very calm collected person,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Madison is a very fun human. She does have a
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: wild side to her. It doesn't feel like the two
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: of them should match. It seems like the two of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: them are like fire and ice, like very different people,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: but somehow it works and it seems to be working
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: from your take. As he enters into the house, did
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you realize that Cody was going to be leaving? And
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: also did you see the Freddie Madison thing sparking?
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Freddie walks in and he has
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: an energy to him.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: He is as advertised.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, he might be one of the most genuine
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: individuals that I've met. So he walks in the house,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: big old beaming smile, and it's just like instantly there's
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: an interest right, like there's you can see. It's like
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: you can tell when someone's like whoa Like, who's that?
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: And that's what Madison basically like the look that she
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: got in her face, and you know there is so
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: it wasn't wa wait, I'm mixing this up. Hold on,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: she ended up going on a date with him. Yeah, so,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: like I you, we kind of knew it was coming
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: because Cody like in her well, they won the first challenge.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: It's like once she decided to put herself on a date,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: you knew it was it was over.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: It was over.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I mean when she called him out for having bad
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: breath on National television. Did you ever feel that No, I.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: No, I talked to Cody. I didn't ever smell his breath.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I guess I wasn't. I wasn't kissing him either, but
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: but I mean when I was talking to him, I mean,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: there was never some foul smell. I thought that was
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: wrong of her to go after him for that, because
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: it's like, great, now you're just gonna peg this guy
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: as the stinky breath dude, which is like, it's just
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: frustrating cause now I'm like, who knows in his personal
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: life he's probably dealing with this, right, some girls, like
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I saw this and it's like.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Nobody likes to have bad breath.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: But yeah, the second that, like he came back, can
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: found out that second like he came back and found
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: out that uh.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Or he told us that she put her on herself
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: on a date, we knew it was over.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It was over.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, that's that's crazy, and we're like
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: that he's done for sure.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: And then I get it. I mean, Freddy is a stud.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: He seems like a nice guy on television. You said
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: he's a nice guy in real life, Like, I get
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: why she goes, hey, this is my guy, it has nothing.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: It's not even a knock on Cody. It's just this
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: guy's a little better. No, yeah, Clayton, we only have
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: five minutes left with you and and so I'm going
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: to do something. Really, because we've gone through most of
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: it already, the matches stay fairly the same except for
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Cody and Carrington leaving the house. So from week or
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: from episode one to episode two, the matches are pretty
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: much the same. There's no big twists and turns. Really,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Odie goes home, Carrington goes home, and Freddie ends up
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: staying in the house and you are obviously still there.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: The real big thing I want to talk to you
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: about is is my You know, this is my first
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Netflix show I've ever watched, Clayton, Colton, I knew I
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: was going to do that at some point. It's not
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the first time it's happened, Clayton, the first time I've
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: ever watched Netflix reality television show. I'm in it like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it. I'm liking it. You guys have this
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: like get to know you competition at the end of
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: this episode where like everybody, it seems like everybody answered
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: questions beforehand in secret and then the partners had to guess,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you know, who was who. It's where I really realized
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: what this show was. It was my eye opening moment
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: to go, holy cow, this has no bad on Netflix.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: It was hilarious.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: People's answers and my answers didn't match up with the
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: other answers. But that's because I was doing a strategy
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: that did not get picked up by Juliet And I
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: was like, come on, I was the whole point was
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: you had to basically guess what your partner's answer was.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: And so I wasn't writing these answers based on how
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I would answer them necessarily. It was more like, Juliette,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: you have said that I am like a safe kind
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: of boring individual, so I'm going to give safe.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Boring answers.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: This makes sense.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: So when I called my you know, my my nether region,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: when I went down below safe and secure, it's like Juliette,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: who else has said?
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Who else is going to put that?
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: It's me like answer it, and she she like doesn't
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: pick any of my answers, and she's like, well I
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: didn't like that answer.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: I'm like, that's not the point.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: The point is you have to choose my answers, and
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, I said, like in the bedroom, I
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: was a silver backed guerrilla.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know. I feel like and I
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: eat steak.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: And eggs and I'm like, oh my gosh, I feel
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: like I'm giving it away. I'm giving the bland answers
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: like and again I was like, she just was like,
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I didn't like those answers. I was choosing the ones
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: I liked the most. I'm like, that's not the point.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Of the game, get it's a compatibility test.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: So I guess like it was that the point of
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: the game or the point of the game is to
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: win it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's where I think that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: There was a half of the camp there was like
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: it's all about compatibility.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: The other half is like, guys, we're trying to win.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: So I was, you know, Juliette was like, hey, I
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: am choosing the answers that I would be most compatible with.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, well then we're like then we're gonna lose.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: This is a demonstration that you guys are incompatible.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And that's what we said afterwards, like we
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: got the least amount of answers, right, And she was like,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I guess this.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Just proves it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, because I was going to win,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: you were going off compatibility.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: We weren't even on the same page.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I guess we should have talked this through, but I
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: thought she was gonna go for the win too. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: was like, she's a gamer and she went for compatibility,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: so we're just completely off on that. And and I
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: just thought my answers, I was like, yeah, I don't know.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I thought it was blatantly obvious. But she kept not
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: picking him, and I was like, oh my gosh. And
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: then everyone's like, oh, he's such boring answers. I was like,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: that was for a purpose. Although I will say I
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have answered them as crazy as other people though
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: in general, like the people on that show, some of
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: these people were they're wild. They're much wilder than I am.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: So it was pretty funny the answer they gave.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some people who had no boundaries.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Oh the vibrating the vibrating butt plug.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean Lucy all of a sudden, like
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Lucy's like you said, you walk in. She's this cute girl.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: She you know, has it together. She's definitely kind of
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: like the star of the first two episodes and then
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden she reveals this. It doesn't change
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: her star factor, she can do what she wants, but
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: it does make you look at her differently. I will
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: say that I cannot look at her on this show
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: any more the same way, and a lot of these
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: people from their answers, I feel like, for me, I
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: said I know way too much about you. Yeah, for
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: two episodes into the show.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I look, I think really people should watch
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: this show and not take it too seriously. It's a
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: fun show. It doesn't have the formality that the Bachelor does.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: This is meant to be turned on to like be
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: a little bit ridiculous, to get people to be like,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: you know, oh my gosh, I can't believe they said that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: That's the way in which I think you should watch
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: the show. So if you do that and you're like, look,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: these people are ridiculous, then like you're just going to
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: watch a bunch of ridiculousness and it'll be fun if
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: you take it seriously. Again, it's just I don't think
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: most of us that went on there, like we obviously
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: took it seriously to try to match with people, but
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: it's like, look, we're all just be having fun. We're
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: all here in tuloom for the next month, like, let's
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: just live it up. A bunch of good looking people
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: in the house, Like who wouldn't enjoy this? So I
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: think we all were just like it was one big party.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: And if you look at it that way, then you
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: can start to see why people were letting loose.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: But that's what people want to watch. They don't want
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: to watch lukewarm.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: They want they want crazy vibrations.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: For lack of a better term. Ali and Ad ended
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: up winning this challenge. They are very compatible, obviously, and
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: we see the headlines about their relationship and kind of
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: where it went. The whole episode ends Clayton with Ady
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: and Ali in the boardroom making decisions on behalf of
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the group. Clayton, I know we have to let you go.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: This has been episode two of The Perfect Match. The
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: final episodes drop on August fifteenth. Clayton, we're entering into
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: episode three as you say goodbye to the listeners of
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: the Almost Famous podcast. Is there anything you want to
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: say with the stage being yours about episode three, four, five, six, seven,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: eight nine.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I think if you are willing to stick around and
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: listen to me discuss nuance on podcasts, then you'll feel
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: a bit differently. But if you just watch it for
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: what it is and decide to move on with life
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: and say I've seen enough of this guy and this
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: is the way that I view him, then then you'll
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: do that. So I think there's new that can be heard,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: but it's up to the viewers.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Listeners if they want to go down that path to understand.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Well, clay Neckard, thank you for joining us. Thank you guys,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Love to have you back soon.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see you, guys.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: That was Klayton Neckard with from The Perfect Match, obviously
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a former bachelor, talking through really episode two of The
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Perfect Match Episode one and two. We know from the
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: headlines that obviously things become controversial, become polarizing in Clayton's
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: kind of journey through The Perfect Match. We hope to
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: bring him back to talk about that, but as we've committed,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: we're chronologically breaking down each episode and at this point
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: he is still with Juliette. We see then this episode
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: with Rachel, we have got a confirmation that she's attending
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: the villa. She's going to be going on a date
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: with Freddie. We also see Adye and Ali kind of
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: doing this back and forth where he is requesting Alex
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: many times and she's wondering why. We don't know if
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: she comes into the house, who she goes on a
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: date with when the episode ends, but we do know
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: that Ali is gonna He's kind of putting himself in
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: the corner a little bit of what happens in the future.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think it ruins anything, but I do think
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: it spoke enough to the decisions that he made and
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: why he made these decisions. Actually, to me, it sounds
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: like he's standing by them. It's interesting. I think The
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Perfect Match Ashley, I haven't watched a lot of Netflix shows.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: The Perfect Match, to me, is really fun to watch,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: mostly because it is so out of my comfort zone.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: And it's not even out of my comfort zone where
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: it's like I watched this like I want to push
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: myself to be like if I was single, obviously, like
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I would want to be there like this is. I
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: would have said no to it, circrely because I would
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: have been a fish out of water. It's not exactly
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: even a comfort or I feel like I need to
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: push myself to do these things. No, no, but I
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: enjoy watching it I'm a fan of it. You've watched ahead,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I have watched it. Is this something that does?
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Just watch it?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: She got into it, she doesn't like it.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: You guys do it together if you're gonna, you know,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: really watch it like you know, like if you're on
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: episode four right now. I'm like, you guys are watching
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: it together.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we we We've enjoyed it, you know. Clayton, it's
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he came on. I'm glad he's coming out,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: you know, agreed to come on and speak to stuff
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: that's happening. I hope he comes back. And my advice
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: to him then would be to never go on a
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: rally television dating show again, which sounds like is where
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: he's at in life.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I say, poor guy.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched episode three yet. Yeah, you might just
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: be saying, uh, yeah, just don't do it. I don't
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: know if it's poor guy as much as yeah, you
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: probably just shouldn't. This has been the almost famous podcast again.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: We're breaking down the perfect match right now because we
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: do have two Bachelor Nation contestants confirm to be on
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: the show. Clayton's there right now. We know Rachel shows
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: up very soon. Stay tuned for an episode three breakdown
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: next week. We'll be breaking it down week by week,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: sometimes combining episodes together, especially as people come and go,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: but we will be doing it right here on the
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: most famous podcast. Until next time, I have Been Been,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I've Been Ashley.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for listening, HUI.
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