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Ne-Yo: My mom showed me how to listen to music · The Flash Drive with Carl Wastie

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  Speaker 1: Weekdays, 3 to 7 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: The Flash Drive with Carl Wastey on KFM 94.5.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome, welcome. Your show, Flash Drive, KFM 94.5. We are
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  Speaker 3: ready to rumble. It's going to be a busy day.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to stop there because we've got
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  Speaker 3: some news about next week's shows and some of our
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  Speaker 3: great sponsors. But before we go anywhere, we also have
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  Speaker 3: the unique opportunity for us to have a chat with
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  Speaker 3: the one and only Neo, who's coming into studio to
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  Speaker 3: have a conversation with us on the flash drive on
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  Speaker 3: KFM 94.5, which I'm very, very happy about. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to happen. And you know what? It's not going to
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  Speaker 3: be something I'm going to let you wait for like
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  Speaker 3: I usually do when it comes to your news stories. No,
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking like in the next couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Do I look okay?
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  Speaker 3: You look good. You always look okay. I've told you
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  Speaker 3: this before. I prefer no makeup, but I see you
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  Speaker 3: did subtle touches today.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And your sunscreen with a little. Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: OK, good.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I'm proud. I'm happy.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking shiny because of my sunscreen. But what a
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  Speaker 3: lovely day it's been. If you don't know this, we
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  Speaker 3: had this lovely broadcast with Tracy Lang this morning. I
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  Speaker 3: was involved going to Kwasadi Primary School in Goodwood. And
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  Speaker 3: they have that teacher, Danal Bosh, who actually won the prize.
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  Speaker 3: Best Teacher, call it the Best Teacher Award in the
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  Speaker 3: entire country.
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  Speaker 4: Amazing!
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  Speaker 3: A grade R teacher won it, which was almost unprecedented
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  Speaker 3: because it's like you've just started.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Grade R, it's such a grassroots level, but the importance
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  Speaker 3: of a grade R teacher, that cannot go sort of...
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  Speaker 3: celebrated and that's why we had to do that this
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  Speaker 3: morning so with the department of education and tracy's show
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  Speaker 3: and i was there at the assembly i got the
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  Speaker 3: chat to all those kids can i tell you the
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  Speaker 3: coolest thing about these kids i walk into the assembly
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  Speaker 3: yeah and already you hear laughter and giggling and you
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  Speaker 3: hear all of these uh yeah all of these amazing
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  Speaker 3: sort of murmurs coming around and then one of the
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  Speaker 3: teachers is like it's That's your R. I'm like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it probably is. It's probably my hair. I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to lie.
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  Speaker 4: Also, you're not threatening to them. You're the same height.
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  Speaker 3: That's what the grade R class was in the front.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Legit same height. Like I disappeared into the crowd there.
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  Speaker 3: They stood up. I was like, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, grade R. We have to go to class. Oh, sorry, Carl.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what happened. But I mean, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: It's been it's been a beautiful day. And please, today,
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  Speaker 3: if you can, your teachers need celebrating. That's the most
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  Speaker 3: amazing thing. Like just celebrate your teachers. Let them... Feel
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  Speaker 3: the love. And even if it's been a long time,
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  Speaker 3: like even after school, pop in, send a mail, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just ask the secretary at the school, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: you can just say thank you, you know, that all
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  Speaker 3: the times that you... And one of my key messages
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  Speaker 3: at the assembly was to the kids is that every
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  Speaker 3: time a teacher tells you to keep quiet, remember that
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  Speaker 3: is the skill that they are trying to teach you
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  Speaker 3: in order for you to know that later in your life,
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  Speaker 3: there are going to be people in your life who are...
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  Speaker 3: are really actually going to be very important. So just
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  Speaker 3: like really appreciate your teachers and just appreciate them. You know,
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  Speaker 3: that's the most important thing. You may be asking when
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  Speaker 3: we are chatting to Neo, right?
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  Speaker 6: When? When?
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  Speaker 3: I literally see Neo behind you. Don't look now.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Stop. He's behind you.
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  Speaker 4: Play it cool.
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  Speaker 3: He might be walking in. I'm just letting you know.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to be okay? Should I even play
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  Speaker 3: the Friday song? I don't even think I should play
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  Speaker 3: the Friday song. I should actually just bring him in
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  Speaker 3: right now. Focus on me right now.
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  Speaker 5: No, no.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to focus on you. Just play it cool.
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  Speaker 3: Play it cool.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Play it cool. Play it cool. Play it cool, Cassidy.
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  Speaker 3: He's behind you.
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  Speaker 1: Just play it cool.
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  Speaker 3: It's happening right now.
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  Speaker 5: Don't.
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  Speaker 6: Don't.
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  Speaker 4: Don't.
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  Speaker 1: Stop.
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  Speaker 3: Stop.
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  Speaker 4: Hello. How fun is this?
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  Speaker 1: Just hold on. Hold on.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: There we go. Okay. Well, I had a whole intro
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  Speaker 3: prepared and everything. That's it. Hello, Neil. Please take a seat. Well,
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  Speaker 3: come hug me first.
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  Speaker 4: How's it going?
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  Speaker 3: Love it. Welcome. Please, have a seat.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. There we go. Here he is. Are you comfortable?
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  Speaker 4: Squads all here?
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  Speaker 1: I am very comfortable, sir.
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  Speaker 3: That's good. Oh, my word. Here it is.
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  Speaker 1: Here we are.
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  Speaker 3: Here it is. It's finally happening.
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  Speaker 1: I just.
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  Speaker 3: This man taught us a lot in our lives.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 3: He taught us that no matter what, you just have
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  Speaker 3: to start.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And when you start, you start now.
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  Speaker 5: Hey.
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  Speaker 3: Come on. He taught us work-life balance.
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  Speaker 4: Play hard, work hard, play hard.
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  Speaker 6: We work hard, play hard, keep partying like it's showtime.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, Cassidy, you know that this song may or may
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  Speaker 3: not have been written for somebody like you. That's right,
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  Speaker 3: it's you. A track that I think everybody, we may
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  Speaker 3: have had a breakup and we just, we were tied,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and we just had to.
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  Speaker 6: We were done.
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  Speaker 4: So tied up to you.
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  Speaker 3: And these songs were written because this man, Neo, always
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  Speaker 3: focused on you. He asked, let me love you. And
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  Speaker 3: we said, yes. We said, you know what? You're one
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  Speaker 3: in a million, Neo.
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  Speaker 1: Like, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: We did.
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  Speaker 3: You are. And that's why after all these years, I
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  Speaker 3: just decided, like, how do we get even closer to Neo?
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  Speaker 1: Like, how?
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  Speaker 3: And you may know that this man is celebrating a
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  Speaker 3: birthday on Sunday. So living this champagne life. So please welcome...
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  Speaker 3: The One.
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  Speaker 4: The One.
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  Speaker 3: And that was my intro for you. Welcome, officially. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing, brother. Amazing. I could tell you put some time
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  Speaker 1: into that. Of course. Of course I did. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: No, thank you so much for taking the time.
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  Speaker 1: I feel larger than life. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a long time. In fact, I think it was.
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  Speaker 4: It's been quite some time.
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  Speaker 3: You were here in 2010.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Easily 10... Ooh, what is that?
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  Speaker 3: 16 years.
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  Speaker 1: 16 years ago.
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  Speaker 3: What? Sheesh. Do you remember that time when you came
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  Speaker 3: to Cape Town and were there any memories that you
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  Speaker 3: just hold on to coming down? I know you've been
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  Speaker 3: to a lot of places.
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  Speaker 5: So here's one thing I remember. So we went to Lagos,
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  Speaker 5: Nigeria first.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And then we came here. And I just remember feeling
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  Speaker 5: like this was... It kind of reminded me of Miami
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  Speaker 5: a little, this place.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because we were right off the water, and it
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  Speaker 5: gave me like an ocean drive type of vibe. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but that's the one thing I remember, just being beautiful
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  Speaker 5: out here.
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  Speaker 3: It is really beautiful. I'm so glad you said yes
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  Speaker 3: to coming back.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We missed you. And I mean, since then, the music itself,
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  Speaker 3: like Highway 79.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I thought you were going to wear a cowboy
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  Speaker 5: hat today. I planned on it, but the weather chose otherwise.
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  Speaker 5: So we just decided to go here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's all good.
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  Speaker 3: And now we're back. And I mean, we've got this,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, for the concert tomorrow, of course. Okay, for this.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even call it a concert. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: it's just an evening with you. You can chat to us.
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  Speaker 3: You can just connect with us, though. For this particular treatment,
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  Speaker 3: I know people love the classics, but I mean, are
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  Speaker 3: we going to hear something from Highway 79?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 5: So to anybody that doesn't know, Highway 79 is the
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  Speaker 5: latest album. It is country inspired, meaning it's not country music,
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  Speaker 5: but it's music inspired by everything I love about country music.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, we'll definitely get some of those. This show
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  Speaker 5: is going to be from the beginning of my career
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  Speaker 5: to where.
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  Speaker 1: I am now.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to get a little bit of everything. And yeah, man,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to have a good time. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: have a great time. It's going to be the best time.
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  Speaker 3: Grand Arena, Grand West tomorrow, it's going to happen. So
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  Speaker 3: now that I have you here, there are some things
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  Speaker 3: about your music career that I've always been intrigued about.
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  Speaker 3: And I never got an opportunity to actually ask you
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  Speaker 3: this anytime before, especially when, and I'll let you know
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  Speaker 3: that in 2010, all right, I was part of an
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  Speaker 3: interview with you. I won't even go back to that
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  Speaker 3: interview because I embarrassed myself because I sang a edited
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  Speaker 3: version of So Sick to You.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. I just.
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  Speaker 3: It was crash and burn.
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  Speaker 1: Did I enjoy it at the time?
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  Speaker 3: You know what? You actually may or may not have
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  Speaker 3: said that you... Cassidy?
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  Speaker 7: I just wanted to say that when I found out,
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  Speaker 7: I was really excited that you guys did an interview
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  Speaker 7: all those years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, 16 years ago we did an interview.
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  Speaker 7: And one thing about me is I'm BIS, which is
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  Speaker 7: South African for nosy.
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  Speaker 4: So, Mr. Wasey, if you will click on a little
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  Speaker 4: track on your stacks... Over there. It's called Cassidy's Cliff.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 3: How would you?
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  Speaker 6: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
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  Speaker 6: I'm just a girl.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Jon Bernthal. No, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: I got the clip of the interview.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We have to play it out.
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  Speaker 4: You got to play it out.
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  Speaker 3: My mouth's dry.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on.
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  Speaker 4: Wait.
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  Speaker 3: My mouth is so dry.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: This was 16 years ago. I didn't even know how
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  Speaker 3: I sound.
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  Speaker 1: We were all different people 16 years ago. Okay, no
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  Speaker 1: one's judging.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go. Cassidy's clip, breastplate.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe you, Cassidy. I adapted one of your songs,
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  Speaker 3: So Sick.
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to hear it. I would love to hear it.
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  Speaker 6: I'm so sick of Tracy, so sad and low. So
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  Speaker 6: tired of wishing I would just grow. Oh, I'm so
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  Speaker 6: sick of Tracy and her big balls. So why is
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  Speaker 6: this gun still on the radio? Kent is actually a person. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Don't call me. I'll call you.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I just, I thought just.
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  Speaker 1: Wait okay i said no one's judging i'm completely.
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  Speaker 5: A million percent judging that was 16 years ago it.
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  Speaker 3: Was it was 16 years ago how did you find
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  Speaker 3: that that was Wow.
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  Speaker 1: What was that word? Did you use it?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, bus.
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  Speaker 6: Bus.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Bus.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I know if you bus people.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my word.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Thank you for that. That was 16 years ago.
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  Speaker 3: And that was for, and it's a crazy cause that colleague,
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  Speaker 3: we still work together. It's Tracy Lang on that time. And,
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  Speaker 3: but wow. Thanks for that. I was going to ask
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  Speaker 3: you about some other things now. And now I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I lost my train of thought. Uh, the great thing about,
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  Speaker 3: about you all the way in the beginning, uh, When
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  Speaker 3: I told people that I'm going to chat to you today,
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  Speaker 3: they're always like, oh, Neo, Neo, Neo, Neo. And not
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people know about the origin story is
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  Speaker 3: how you got the name Neo. And I had to
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  Speaker 3: tell them the story because, of course, I'm just I'm
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  Speaker 3: a fan in terms of not only the Matrix, but
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  Speaker 3: of your music. And then there was a connection. So
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  Speaker 3: is it true that the Neo connection came because you
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  Speaker 3: could write a song in under under five minutes?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: In the beginning of my career. I didn't have a
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  Speaker 5: lot of money, and we all know studio time costs money.
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  Speaker 5: So if I only had enough money to pay for
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  Speaker 5: 20 minutes, 30 minutes, I had to get the most
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  Speaker 5: out of that 20, 30 minutes. So if you gave
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  Speaker 5: me 30 minutes in the studio, I could give you
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  Speaker 5: 12 to 13 songs.
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  Speaker 1: Just ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: And Big D, Dion Evans, may he rest in peace,
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  Speaker 5: he was the first person to say, man, you're like
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  Speaker 5: the Neo of the music industry, basically saying that I
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  Speaker 5: could do things within music their regular people couldn't do
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  Speaker 5: the way neo could do things within the matrix their
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  Speaker 5: regular people couldn't do and that's that's where the name came.
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  Speaker 2: From that's incredible i love that i'll never get sick
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  Speaker 2: of that story because i'm a massive matrix fan and
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  Speaker 2: a neo fan and then you get that together and
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  Speaker 2: that's and it was stylized because of course there's that
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  Speaker 2: that center of you with a little hip-hop and r &
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  Speaker 2: b so you had to add a yo Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, we had to change the spelling of
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  Speaker 5: the name because I didn't want, you know, the people
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  Speaker 5: at The Matrix to come looking for me.
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 5: And plus, if you Google NEO, you know, the white
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  Speaker 5: guy comes up. Shout out to the white guy, Keanu Reeves.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a huge Keanu Reeves fan, by the way. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we just didn't want no confusion. That's all, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking for the right NEO, depending on which one
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  Speaker 1: you're looking for.
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  Speaker 7: I must say, though, it's also quite interesting because in
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  Speaker 7: the Susutu culture, it's pronounced NEO from Deneo, which actually
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  Speaker 7: means gift.
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  Speaker 4: Which is really cool yeah okay so it's just like
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  Speaker 4: interesting all.
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  Speaker 5: The universe makes no mistakes right I will take that.
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  Speaker 3: The universe makes no mistakes did you see the clip
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  Speaker 3: I played.
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  Speaker 1: That wasn't the universe. That was you, sir. That was you.
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  Speaker 4: If we're not laughing, we're learning.
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  Speaker 5: The universe is like, hey, don't blame me for that.
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  Speaker 4: That was your doing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my word. But with regard to the other parts,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you've written so many songs for so many artists.
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  Speaker 3: And I always wonder, I mean, you can churn out
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  Speaker 3: these songs so quickly. But I mean, how do you
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  Speaker 3: wake up and decide that I'm writing this song? Rihanna
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  Speaker 3: is going to be good for this. Beyonce is going
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  Speaker 3: to be good for this one. Celine Dion is going
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  Speaker 3: to be good for that. How do you even do that?
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  Speaker 5: So in a lot of instances, it's about the way
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  Speaker 5: the song is actually produced. When I mean the way
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  Speaker 5: the song is produced, like for example, Rihanna's people came
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  Speaker 5: to me and said, hey, we're putting together this album
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  Speaker 5: for her. We would love for you to be a
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  Speaker 5: part of it. We're going to put you in a
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  Speaker 5: studio for her from this day to this day. And
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  Speaker 5: then whatever songs come out of those days go straight
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  Speaker 5: to Rihanna. There's no You know what I mean? They
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  Speaker 5: get first, first right refusal is what they call it.
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  Speaker 5: So if she doesn't like them, if the team doesn't
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  Speaker 5: like them, then at that, at that.
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  Speaker 1: Point I can do whatever I want with them.
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  Speaker 5: But initially they go to the person that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: paid for it, said studio time.
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  Speaker 1: So there's that.
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  Speaker 5: But then if I'm in a studio by myself and
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  Speaker 5: I'm just writing and I write something, you know, initially
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  Speaker 5: I'm always writing for me if I'm in there by myself.
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  Speaker 5: But if I write something and I listen back to
• 13:42
  Speaker 5: it and go, man, I feel like, I feel like
• 13:44
  Speaker 5: Rihanna will really kill this. Then I might call her like, Hey,
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: I got something that I want you to hear. If
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: she likes it, she takes it. If not, then, you know,
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: I figure out something else with it.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: But that's normally the way it goes. It's a few
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: different ways that it can happen. But this is, I mean,
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: it's so cool. I mean, you can keep all these
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: songs to yourself, but you can write for other people.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: And I mean, you've already written for some of the best.
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, Beyonce. I actually heard you sing Irreplaceable on
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: another interview, which is amazing. And I think... In that interview,
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: you were quite clear. You said a woman needs to
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: sing this song, right?
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: I wrote that song initially with the intention of singing
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: it myself. And me and Stargate, we all kind of
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: came to the, had an epiphany all at the same time.
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: Like the reason that we really, really, really like this
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: song but don't love it is because this song does
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: not need to be sang by a man.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: This needs to be a woman's message.
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: So once we got it to the right woman, Beyonce,
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: the song became what it was supposed to be.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: And yeah, the rest is history.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: It's just so good I love I love these these
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: facets of your music career leading up to this because
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: I think it just adds so much richness to the
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: music like even your video because of you you were barefoot.
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah that wasn't that wasn't planned I literally danced
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: out of my shoes and they just kept it yeah
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: so first and foremost the shoes that I was wearing
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: were like a couple sizes too big but it was
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: it was getting late and we didn't have time to
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: go get any more shoes so I was just I'll
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: just put them on we'll be fine and I'm dancing
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: And one shoe came off, and then I'm like, all right,
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: I just kicked the other one off, and I just
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: kept it going.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: And they wound up keeping it. They said it was
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: a very organic moment.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, if y'all say so, it looks like
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: my shoes are too big, and they came off. But
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: however y'all want to paint it, fine. They kept it, and... Yeah,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: that's one of the parts of that video that people
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: talk about.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Where'd your shoes go? Oh, well.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: But what a conversation starter now.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: Moral of the story is don't dance in shoes that
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: are too big for you.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: They might come off.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Story of my life.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Wrong time.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. A lot of shoes.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: Just have an inner soul in your bag.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: At all times. So there's another little facet that I
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: think we need to revisit is that your first Grammy. Yes.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: You were not technically present at your first Grammy and
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: you couldn't even say a speech and it was not
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: even a televised Grammy. Can we talk about that for
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: a moment so we can just get over it and
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: we can move forward?
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: So mind you, the Grammy is the one that you
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: dream about, right? As an artist, you dream about walking
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: across the Grammy stage and. thanking your mom and the
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: whole nine you write the speech and you put it
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: in your pocket just in case right so i'm thinking
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: that so when when i learned that i was nominated
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: i'm i'm over the moon already like i'm nominated for
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: a grammy oh wow so we're at the grammys for
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: the first time i'm doing the red carpet people ask
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: me questions how do you feel and in the midst
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: of these interviews a ghost just whizzes by my head
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: and goes.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Congratulations just won a grammy what and i'm like what God. Hello.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Whoever that was.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Wow. They told me that I won before I even
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: got in the building. And the reason they did that
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: is because, and I learned that this day too, there
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: are Grammy categories that are not televised. I had won
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: in a category that wasn't televised.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Do you know why?
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess because there's so many categories, they
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: only televise a certain amount of the certain ones, the
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: most popular ones, I guess, or something like that.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: So anyway.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: I had won a Grammy, but I didn't get to
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: walk across stage, didn't get to thank my mom, didn't
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: get to thank God, didn't get to do the whole, wow,
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: this thing's heavy.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I didn't get to do that part.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: And mind you, I've won three Grammys in my career
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: and I've yet to win in a category that is.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: That is crazy.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: It's okay.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: It just means I got more work to do.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: It's all right.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I'll figure it out. I mean, at least you have
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: three speeches that you can work from now.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Easily, yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: I'm going to mail them into one big, long speech
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: and hope that they don't, you know, try to play
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: that music to get you up. No, I'm like, listen,
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: I've been waiting a long time to do these speeches.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Y'all not going to play me off, okay? Shut the
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: music off. We're going to be here a while. Everybody
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: sit down. Nope, sit down, sir. Sit down.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Sit down, okay?
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: I got some names to rattle off here.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I'll do it as fast as I can. Have a seat.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's going to happen just like that. I cannot wait.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: And it will definitely happen.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: They're never going to let me do it now because
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I just said that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: No, we manifested it, okay? That's why. That's why we
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: did it live on the radio. That's how it works.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: But just, you know, I know you've, it just feels
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: like you've done it all. Honestly, the Grammys and the
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: writing for Incredible People and the songs that you put
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: out there. And another thing is that you've never been
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: genre sensitive. Like you've just, you've crossed over because you
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: know music is a vehicle for expression and you have
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: never seen the gates open. of dance, pop, R & B, hip-hop.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: You walked through all of them because you're supposed to, right?
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Well, I think the one line that carries through all
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: of those gates is melody. There's melody in all of
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: these different genres of music. The genres are just ways
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: for people to compartmentalize, but at the end of the day,
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: it's all just music. It's all music at the end
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: of the day, and that's the way that I view it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: I don't see category. I see melody... I see lyric.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I see the things that connect us, you know, the relatable,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: that song that you listen to and you go, yeah,
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: I've been there.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I felt that before. That can be a pop song,
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: a R & B song, a hip hop song. It
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: doesn't matter. So that's the way that I've always, that's
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: the way that my mom kind of showed me how
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: to listen to music. Growing up in Las Vegas, my
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: mom would come home, you know, super late every night
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: from working and she would bring a different genre of
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: music home with her every night. And that would be
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: our time together because she, you know, she worked all
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: day and I'm at school. So the only time we
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: really got to see each other was at night before
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: I had to go to bed to go to school
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: the next day. So she would come and she would
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: listen to this. So she would bring home, you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: first it was, you know, the OJs and the Temptations,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: a lot of R & B. And then it was
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: like Wayne Newton and Reba McEntire and the Rat Pack
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. And it just, I
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: just locked into the melody of it. It wasn't so much,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: at that time, I didn't even know what a genre was.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: It was just this music, that music, this artist, that artist.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: And that's the way that I've always viewed it. So
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: when I did a dance song or a pop song
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: or a country song or whatever the case may be,
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: to me it's just a song, man. I'll let y'all
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: work out what radio station should play it and how
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: and all of that. I'm just going to do music.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: That's what it is.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: And that's the message that I try to give to
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: every single artist when they try to perform for a
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: certain purpose, when they try to write for a certain purpose.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: And I always say that the authenticity comes from you
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: telling a story. You have the melody of your life
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: that rings in your ears all the time. And that's
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: what you write from. You don't write for, I hope
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: that KFM 94.5 will play this song. You write because
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: there's a vehicle for you to express yourself. And that's
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: why I'm glad that you reiterate that because someone as
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: successful as you can just, you provided that information in
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: the most credible way and they need to hear this.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Indeed.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Indeed.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: It's not about, I think that I keep getting asked
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: the question, How do you know when a song is
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: a hit? And I will be the first to tell you,
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I have no idea what a hit is.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I'll write what makes sense to me, what feels good
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: to me, and sit somewhere and pray that the rest
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: of the world agrees. That's pretty much how I do it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know if there is a set recipe for
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: a hit song. Because, I mean, you all work in
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: radio and in the music, so y'all know that there
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: are a multitude of things that go into what makes
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: a song a hit.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: The quality of the song is not always the biggest
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: piece of that pie. Like, let's be honest. You've heard
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: crap songs go to number one. You've heard amazing songs
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: not get the time, not get the light of day. So,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: with that being said, I don't go into the studio
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: and say, today I'm going to write a hit. You
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: cut yourself off at the feet when you do that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: You go in a studio and you let your artistic
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: integrity take you wherever it's going to take you. You
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: do what feels good to you and you rock like that.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: That authenticity, as you put it, that is what creates
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: a great song. And from great song, then you give
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: it to the people that turn it into a hit.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: That's the way that works. Or at least that's the
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: way it works for me.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the people always choose their heroes.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, man.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: You can't force it. Yeah, you can't.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Man, it's been countless times that I sit in a
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: studio and just toil over a song for like a
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: week and then play it for somebody and they go, oh,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: that's nice.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: And then I'll play him the song that I just
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: kind of... You really feel.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And then I'll play the song that I just kind
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: of crapped out in 15 minutes.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: They go, oh, my God. You're a genius. And I'm like, wait, what?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Wait, no, play the other one again.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Do you not hear... The blood, sweat, and tears are
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: winning to this song.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's nice.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, play the other one.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: You never know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: You never know.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: You just got to, again, you got to do what
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: feels good to you and let the people pick their heroes,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: as you said.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it works. And we have so many heroes in
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: your catalog of music that you provided to us. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: we're looking forward to more of them. For those who
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: haven't picked up Highway 79, they have to because I
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: love the inspiration behind it. It's so good. Your voice
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: pretty much suits any music. I cannot wait for you
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: to hear, if you haven't already, I'm a Piano.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, I have.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine? I have. A Neo Amapiano song.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Listen. Get out of my phone, bro. Oh, wait.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I wonder if Black Coffee hasn't, or DJ Maporisa.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I have some things in the works with some people.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: What?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have some things in the works.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: What do creatives say when they post something on Instagram?
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Watch this space.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Is that it?
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Is that the hook? Watch the speech.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel like we just dropped an exclusive now.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's happened.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: There's a hint.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: I'll say coming soon. Just keep your eyes to the sky,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: ears to the ground. You will hear me, see me,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I will be around.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Don't threaten me with a good time.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I know you walked in, but there's an entire champagne
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: wall behind you because we're not going to see you
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: on Sunday. Oh, wow. And Sunday is your birthday.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: So just so that we make it official, because you
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: may be on a flight somewhere or very busy. We
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: just want to say happy birthday. And I mean, a
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: very early happy birthday. Thank you so much for just,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: you know, your kind soul. The fact that this industry
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: you've been here, you've been super successful, but you've shared
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: so much today, which is a testament to just who
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you are. And I just hope that the people who
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: connect with you can just have a couple of words
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: that will affirm you on Sunday and just say that
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the real champagne life is The people that you hold close,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: that you can toast to, that say, you know, I
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: know you, who you are behind all of this. And
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: those are the people that I want to connect with
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: you on Sunday. So happy birthday. And thank you so
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: much for your authenticity and for the hits that you
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: didn't know were hits.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man. Thank you, brother. Appreciate that love.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Love you. And enjoy tomorrow night. I just hope that
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: you have a good opening line. That comes through On
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: tomorrow night For the Cape Townian audience.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to figure it out You got.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: It There's a couple of things You can just go
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I wear Cape Town They'll go crazy I promise you
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I wear Cape Town Even the way you said it
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: now You just You had The melody of the word
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: You had You were like I wear Cape Town I
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: wear Cape Town Look at this guy I got you
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: But you sound like Now he sounds like He's from
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: here That's now That's now Right there Now.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Now Now Now Nail.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: My way at Cape Town. There we go.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Did you get this?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: The gift.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Away.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: And then just out of nowhere just.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Go, lecker. Lecker. Lecker.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Perfect. Oh, man.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Neo, thank you so much for your time. I'm going
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to use these on stage.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. I promise you they're going to be
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: so good tomorrow night. They will, it'll just, I love
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: how knowing something about someone disarms them immediately. And I
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: think that's power. So a little away, but a little lecker.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: A little lecker. Yes.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Another one with a little lecker.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Nothing. I can't wait to see this. It's going to
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: be so good.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be so excited.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Neo, you are lecker. You are.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I'll take that. Yes. I am liquor.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: There we go. So liquor.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Liquor.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, man. Can't wait to see you tomorrow, Grand Arena,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Grand West. Thanks for coming to visit us again. Thank
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: you for not judging my singing from 16 years ago.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I did, but it's okay.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: Twice. He judged it twice.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: And I'll see you in another 16 years. Nio, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the thing is, as a treat to you, I want
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: to play you a track from the brand new album.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I think you deserve to hear it. Can I play
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Dance right now? Is that okay?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, please. Yeah, man. Absolutely.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I'd love to play that song. It's so, so good.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Nio on the flash drive, KFM 94.5, live at Grand
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Arena Grand West tomorrow. Trust me, it's going to be lecker. Away.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Weekdays, 3 to 7 p.m.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: The Flash Drive with Carl Wastey on KFM 94.5.