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The Clock Is Ticking on Your Wealth Ft. Lynette Zang - LFTV Ep 274 · Kinesis Money

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Gold and silver provide because they hold your purchasing power intact and they enable you to sustain a reasonable standard of living.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: We've got this ticket on fucking gold one and only Andrew McGuire.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Life from the Vault.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Live from the Vault, brought to you by Kinesis Money, and this is the show that goes beyond the headlines to uncover the truth about the gold and silver markets with world-renowned whistleblower and industry expert, Andrew McGuire.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this week, he's joined in the vault by a very special and in high demand guest, Lynette Zhang.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's right.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: Lynette Zhang is in the vault.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're not going to want to miss a word of this episode.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we're talking gold and silver.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, you're just not going to want to miss any part of this conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's head over to the UK and join Andrew Maguire and our featured guest, Lynette Zhang.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: Over to you, Andrew.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, this is really a buzz.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Lynette, for coming and joining us again.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: And uh it's been I can't believe it.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: I look back, it was November.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: November of 25.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_01: I can't, that's too long.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I looked at something recently uh you were doing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I tell you, Lynette, you bring things into perspective.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're one of the you've got a really good um holistic view of so many aspects, uh, all the way from um what's going on to community, you name it, you you've got a nice, a beautiful, rounded um sort of um view of of everything, really.
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  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I know there's so many things that we could cover here, but I I just this morning, one thing that struck me this morning, and there's so much we could do, but just to start.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_02: True.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, bond yields this morning hit 2007 highs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh and not just in the US, but all around the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing to worry about there, is there, Lynette?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: No, not at all.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, and in fact, what are those bond yields telling us?
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: Because aren't the markets making all-time highs?
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_02: New all-time highs.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Valuations don't matter.
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  SPEAKER_02: A thousand times earnings, a gazillion times, who cares?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: They'll just print more money and push the markets up anyway.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, bond yields are really screaming.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, here's the reality: debt is the largest, well, maybe derivatives and debt are the largest synthetic liquidity in the universe.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we broke that 40-year trend cycle in 2022.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think that was when the fuse was lit.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not 100% certain, but this could be when the explosion happens.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because to your point, what was happening in 2007?
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_02: The markets were already falling apart.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: We already had uh what, those two that were supposed to be ultra-safe um funds go to zero overnight, right?
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_02: And that was in 2007.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_02: And my family was telling me, oh, everything is great.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: The economy's the best it's ever been.
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  SPEAKER_02: It just wasn't visible to the public until 2008.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when do you want to know about it and be prepared?
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: Outstanding.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so so so basically, the last time um the the financial system died in 2008, um, I mean, so but but I mean, I've got history rhymes, doesn't it?
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  SPEAKER_01: So it just proved that when one system dies, another is born, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So, so this reset though, this time, um, there's a lot of reasons that this is gonna be catastrophic this time.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, can you is there anything you could tell?
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  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot, I get a lot of these are questions I get.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, what do I do?
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  SPEAKER_02: So, well, those are two different questions, but do I think it's gonna be more catastrophic this time?
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And primarily because, of course, what we see is a whole change in alliances, a whole major shift.
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  SPEAKER_02: And also we're going from a debt-based system into, I don't really mean to laugh about it, but a digital system where money creation is gonna be based on purchases.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I want to buy that boat, and that money will go into existence, but then with through stable coins or CBDCs or however they're gonna do that, but then that money's going to buy debt.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: So before we can actually go into this new system fully, they have to burn off this unpayable debt.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it wasn't payable at ZERP, zero interest rate policy.
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  SPEAKER_02: It sure isn't gonna be easier to pay off, and the mountain has grown ginormously.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna be easier to pay off at 6%, 5%, 4%.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you're used to zero, I mean, that's a huge difference.
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  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, my very favorite website, which I know you know, is the Federal Reserve Education Department, the Fred, because I think it's a little teeny bit more honest, but nobody goes in there.
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  SPEAKER_02: Go in there and pull up in the search bar the um interest due from the Fed.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what you will see is a hockey stick up.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the interest.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I I don't remember off the top of my head, but I could tell you this.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was 2009 when I said, you know, wait a minute, we just now went to a trillion dollars in deficits.
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  SPEAKER_02: And really, when you look on the deficit and surplus chart, it doesn't look so bad until you get to the financial crisis.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if we are just now having a deficit of a trillion dollars, why are we servicing$13 trillion in debt?
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I went in because you can do that at the Fred.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: You can go back and look at all of their data, put it on a spreadsheet, and do an analysis.
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  SPEAKER_02: At that point, at$13 trillion in what they're admitting to of debt, we were already compounding interest.
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  SPEAKER_02: So at these higher levels with the higher, massively higher levels of debt, what are we, over$39 trillion or something like that, that they're admitting to?
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: And we aren't talking about the derivatives, we aren't talking about all of the hidden debt that there is yet.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_02: So, and if you look on their charts, you just see these the interest payments due.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not kidding, I'm not exaggerating.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: Go ahead and look for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_02: Straight flipping up.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, what does that mean?
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: That means that all of the interest payments will that comes first, the debt repayments come first, and that means all of the services and everything else that we expect from our government and the entitlement programs, which is another topic, but let's put them into private equity anyway.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but you know, all of the entitlement programs, everything that the government is doing, what's where's all that money gonna go?
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna go to the debts and it's gonna go to defense.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna go to those two places because those are clearly the priority.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_02: What does that mean for us that are paying all those taxes?
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and I think that's one of the things that you provide a service for.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: It it you talk about how people, um, because that was the question the other question had.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: You talk about people will be able to smooth out this transition.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: There are ways of doing it.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: You talk about self-sufficiency is one of the one of your main mantras.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and so can so so obviously these are the questions I get.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, I mean, it's broken.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: What do I do?
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: The banking systems is toast, what do I do?
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: So clearly that's a massive question.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, so maybe what through it's really about taking response learning to take responsibility for ourselves.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's quite a journey, though.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, where do where do we start with that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, really, you know, you brought it up earlier, Andrew, and you could not have been more spot on because when one system dies, another one is born.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_02: So, what you need is you need a bridge to get you from one system to the next.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: And that's partly what gold and silver provide because they hold your purchasing power intact and they enable you to sustain a reasonable standard of living.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_02: But mostly as far as being that independent, because really 2008, I knew the system died.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's when I became a prepper.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I've had, and I've been working on it diligently since then to become as independent and self-sufficient as possible.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_02: We don't have that luxury of time anymore.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_02: We really don't.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's where local community comes in.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because in a community, everybody brings the gifts that they have been given, their knowledge, their skill sets, their assets.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we help each other get through this in this way, because it really does take a village, no matter what it is that we're doing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we need to do this, and we also need to come together in global fashion, which is what you and I do so well, I think, because we need to get, in my strong opinion, we need to get redeemable gold back in the system again.
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  SPEAKER_02: As crazy as that may sound, it was there, it was once there.
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  SPEAKER_02: But in that way, if we do not do this, then you're gonna lose all of your freedom.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if you don't have wealth that's outside of the system, and the system says no, what do you do?
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: You're gonna have to do whatever they tell you to do.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: But if you come together and you create surety through that local community on food, water, security, barterability, wealth preservation, energy, and shelter.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, now if they say jump, you uh you get the luxury of saying, nope, not gonna do it.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_02: Now, some of it you're gonna have to acquiesce because if that ends up being the new system, then it does.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm saying, nope.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we're going digital.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: I know that that's happening.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: I don't, I have never had any false pretenses about that.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_02: But we can still do redeemable gold.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Kinesis does redeemable gold, right?
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's why it fits into the first part of the strategy, which is the ability to sustain your standard of living, because you need that liquidity.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_02: So in the sound money strategy that we execute here at Zhang International, that very first part is about making sure that you can sustain a reasonable standard of living.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that means that it's got to include some of this cash.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, I know it's losing all of its value, but that's what's most recognized.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_02: Some of the digital gold, like Kinesis, and I'm good with Kinesis because it is redeemable.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't even touch a credit card that I that says they're backed by gold.
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe they are, maybe they're not.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: But if I can take it out, if I have that right and that option, I feel comfortable with that.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: And that enables you to transact, you know, um, not local, because when we go through hyperinflation, everything gets really local.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_02: So that's a nice level of liquidity, maybe even in the cash portion, some of the gold backs, which contain a fraction of gold in there.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: And it's this would be for local.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but then you go into your barterable.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_02: So barterable gold, which is fractional, different sizes, and the same thing with silver.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: So depending upon what it is that you need to accomplish, if it's for example, buying strawberries or gas, well, you want to do that with silver.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: You're not doing that with gold.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to pay your property taxes, or I hope nobody does, but obviously, if you have a chronic illness, that's what you need the barterable gold for.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_02: And you could also, again, use the credit card.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: It just depends on how your lifestyle is set up.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what we look at.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_02: We look at your goals, we look at your circumstances, we look at what you have to work with, and we create a strategy with that very first part, sustaining your standard of living in mind.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Then we look at what fiat money intangible assets that you've managed to accumulate.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: And we make sure that you are properly diversified with tangible assets.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_02: What a concept.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: So if this goes away, this rises up, you're okay.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_02: You are properly diversified.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: We also like to take a look at your fixed-rate debt, like mortgages and things like that, because the government's strategy is to repay that debt within the US, but this is true anywhere in the world, with their fiat money that they create that has absolutely or is losing value until it has no value.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: We can utilize that strategy too.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_02: Because once we enter that hyperinflation, people are very panicked.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_02: They will come in and they will do an overnight reset to get rid of that debt and pay it off with in the US dollars that have zero value.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: You do the same thing with your mortgage.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: So we calculate all of that out.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: And then finally, we want to put you in a position to accumulate those assets that can generate lifetime income that, oh my goodness, you can't outlive.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: You know, when I first became a stockbroker in the 80s, nobody ever talked about outliving your assets.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: Because at that point, gosh, if you had a million bucks, you were very wealthy and you'd stick that in treasuries.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, and then you'd get you'd get like a 10% yield on that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And back in the 80s, if you had, if your income was$100,000 a year, you were quite wealthy.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: Today, you can't pull together$400 for an emergency, and you need more than that for your standard of living.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: But we want to make sure that on the other side of this, not only are you made whole, it's created in a full circle, but you're actually in a better place than when you began.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: So all that barterable that we were talking about in the beginning, well, that's your principle.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: And yep, you're using that up.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: So we want to make sure that we recoup that.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_02: So the whole, it's really comprehensive strategy.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_02: I worked on, I've been studying currency life cycle since 1987.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_02: I worked on this strategy for a gazillion years.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then, of course, I have other brilliant minds that come in.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: So that's the way we work here.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: And it is about sustaining your standard of living, putting you in a better debt position, and then taking advantage of the opportunities that arise because they always do.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: There's always opportunity in crisis if you're in the right place with the right asset at the right time.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: You do a lot of work um with citizens of sound money and uh Daniel Diaz, um, we he we just did, in fact, he uh we just did an episode with him um last week on on um updating what we're doing in Kinesis.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Essentially, this is you now you hold regular uh sessions with that.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't it once a month uh that people can come and parachute in?
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Now, does that is Daniel involved in those calls?
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: A hundred percent, because quite honestly, I do not personally, you know, I'm not a political beast.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Although Kim has a great saying, and that is you may not be interested in politics, but politics is very interested in you.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: And so I I mean, how true is that, right?
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I really realize that if we want to get sound money back in the system, yeah, we need to do it on a grassroots level, but who knows or who is really comfortable if you've had no experience with that, on where to even start to get politically involved at a state and local level, because that's the level where you can have real conversation.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's the level where you can start to educate these politicians that really are making choices on your behalf, and they don't understand sound money.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: Most people don't understand sound money.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: I have a really simple definition: it's money that is above all governments and central bankers' ability to inflate away because it's physical gold and silver.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: These are the two assets that number one, gold runs zero counterparty risk.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_02: But number two, you got 33 different global users of physical gold and 36 different users of physical silver.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: And this is global.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: So it overwhelms the government's and central banks' ability to control it.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: They can control the spot markets, that's easy peasy.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: But the physical markets, you know, they just really can't.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm super, I'm kind of a little off topic here, but I'm super excited because I've been witnessing this shift since a year ago in January, out of the paper markets uh dictating price action to the physical true supply and demand markets dictating price action.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not just in gold and silver, but um, you know, I think that that the Wall Street magic wand of just creating money and pushing it into the system, you know, that I think that's coming to an end because it's all built on the back of the 99% of us.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's the 1% and the 99%.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: And in this K-shaped recovery, which is extraordinarily obvious here in the US, um, you know, the consumer with the inflation, I mean, we we recently, this this is this has me quite nervous, really.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yes and no, nervous.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: But recently we saw consumer sentiment drop to the lowest level ever.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: That breaks a support.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: And once that support is broken, that means that's going down more.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: And in a con game, once you lose your major confidence level or layer, you're done.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: You're absolutely done.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: So I think it's gonna be worse here in the US because we're losing our status at what we have since 2000, but faster and faster losing our status as the world reserve currency.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: So there are lots of dollars that are gonna come back here and generate, I think, more inflation here than elsewhere.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: But where you hear my hesitancy is in that game that they play where they have one fiat currency valued against another fiat currency.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_02: So, oh, the dollar is stronger or weaker, or whatever other currency is right.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I'm laughing because just go ahead and and put in a search mark um central bank interventions.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: Woo-hoo! It's just, it's just all a lie.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: But uh for sure, there's not one doubt in my mind, but this this line, this lie is now being discovered, and not just by certainly not by old people like me, but by the younger generation.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I do believe, without a doubt in my mind, that we have a revolution afoot.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I say, yay, can be quiet and peaceful, just just join citizens for sound money and demand sound money back in the system again.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: We can do that.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, life is very interesting these days.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: And you mentioned young people, and and and and I know that you were talking about this recently.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's it they've been told a lie.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: They've been told, follow the system, you will get you'll be able, you'll have your home, you'll have your life.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: It didn't happen.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: And that they did everything they were told.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: So this is a it lifts my spirits to know that there is such an organization so well run, so orchid or well organized, that is attracting people.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Who are looking for that kind of solution, and it has a solution, it is a solution, and you're taking it statewide.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I think this to me doesn't happen in any other country.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: You're leading, the US is leading the way here.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's something that we can all learn from what you're doing.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: And um, huge respect here because young people is what it's all about.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it is.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, I'm not really worried about me.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: I know what I've done.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be okay.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: But I have Ashley in here, and she's in her 20s.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: I am concerned not just about her, but about her children and about my great-grandchildren and all these generations to come.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Because I'm sorry, I'm not a code writer, and I don't know how to read that.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: And people don't even understand this crap, let alone the digital stuff.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: What do you think the opportunity is to be taken advantage of?
• 22:59
  unknown: Yeah.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I have to say, one of the things that's also recently been happening, um, at least here in the US, but maybe globally, is uh is uh let's see, I think it was President Trump or somebody at a commencement speech brought up AI.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, it wasn't it wasn't uh President Trump.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: It was somebody else.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even remember who, but they got booed off the stage.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I saw that.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_02: And why wouldn't they get booed off the stage?
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: Because then you have what company was?
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: I just I just did a headline on it.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember the company that the guy comes out and says that they were eliminating low value human capital?
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: Are you flipping kidding me?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, does that not just tell everybody what the one percenters think about the rest of us?
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_02: And this guy had the nerve to actually say it.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: Whoa! I mean, you can't make this stuff up, Andrew.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Was it a presentation?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: Was it a presentation at a university or or or a some sort of event like that?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: Was it there were young people there?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no, this was on, I think, Bloomberger CNBC.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: Can you go into the because I we just recorded it yesterday?
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: It was yeah, that one.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: Standard Charter Bank.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_02: Standard Charter Bank.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_02: This is not a small bank, but hey, let's just, you know, that doesn't that now I see so many problems with that attitude.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: And you're seeing a lot of layoffs from AI, and it wasn't that long ago that wasn't at Citrini Research came out and said that this was gonna happen.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: And oh my God, all of those companies, oh, you are being ridiculous, outrageous, this is crazy, that's not gonna happen.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: At the same week, some of those layoffs because of AI were announced, and that's just escalating.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: But you know what?
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I could see so many challenges with that.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: Because if we do not support and train and teach and work with this younger generation coming in, at some point, that talent goes away.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, I can say this.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: It's one of the things that I am most proud of here at Zhang International, seriously, is the diversity in who's here at every single level, because that brings in a richness of tapestry and it enables us to future proof our company.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be 72 this year.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: I don't anticipate living forever and ever.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I kind of anticipate that I'll always have this level of energy, but who knows?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think I will, I think I will.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, but still, even then, even though I think I'm gonna live to be 100, so I have 28 more years.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: What happens after that?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I want to make sure that any of our clients here at Zhang International, I mean, this is this this company will take everybody into the future.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: This isn't a just wham bam, thank you, ma'am, just one-shot deal.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: This is an ongoing, you are always going to need to understand what is happening so that you can make educated choices that actually put your best interest first.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: What a concept.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Well, in order to take responsibility for ourselves, we need information.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's it's having good information that helps us to make those choices.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: And it's, you know, that's what it really kind of worried me.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: This sort of whole woke thing that that went on.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, we got in this country, you could a young person can pick up a phone and say, I feel, I feel anxiety.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm I I'm gonna sign myself off.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: And they let him sign himself off and they pay them not to work.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and to me, to me, I think you poor person, I feel actually so sorry for that person because they need information.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: They don't have information um to make choices.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I think it it's it's to me, this is a wave, a fresh wave of young people coming in and saying, No, I'm not going that route.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I've got energy.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Where do I put it?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I think so it's good that you have that facility and and Citizen Sounds Murray provide a huge infrastructure as well.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um I do recommend people plug in to those your monthly um what days what day do they every Monday at 6 p.m.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_02: Eastern time.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: And we chose Eastern time, even even though I'm on mountain time, because Arizona never changes, and it kind of it's kind of confusing for people.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: So we figured I'll make the change.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: People don't have to make the change, right?
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: So, yep, every once a month, the second Monday of the month at 6 p.m.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_02: Eastern Standard Time.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's a great resource, and I think there's so much, I mean Lynette, I think the important thing is is that information pours in all the time.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh now information.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, new information.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: So so this is where people say, yeah, okay, I knew all that, uh Lynnette, but what about this?
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is a curveball, and it's those kind of situations that where really is where where we can distill um people and help people.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I think so.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: What what for example uh this trade war, uh sorry, not the trade war, the the war, the w this this flip-flop war that that is underway at the moment.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what it did though was I think under the radar, not many people understand that what it did was it suddenly proved that uh the petrodollar, which was which was uh there, we will protect you if you use the dollar.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: And the US failed failed to provide protection.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: And this is a huge pivotal moment.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: The that's the end of the petrodollar because now most people are going, oh, the UAE, yeah, big deal.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: No, it is a big deal.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: It is a big deal, it's a very big deal, huge, huge deal.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: Because they can now sell oil and they can sell it in petro yarn.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, guess what?
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: The yuan is directly convertible to gold.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: This is Perito's law tells me the kind of volume they've been 60 years they've been in this process.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: They've completely removed themselves out of this process.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: And and as oil now starts fragmenting across other currencies, dollar demand is gonna fall.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: What's gonna happen to the dollar now?
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, the you know what the key thing for me on the UAE leaving the um the um OPEC.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: OPEC, thank you.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: And OPEC Plus is that that leads into the actual uh transition that we're in from the paper market dictating prices to the physical market dictating prices.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, to your point, I mean the petrodollar, you know, Saudi Arabia was already flip-flopping back and trying to, you know, walk the narrow line just like India's been doing to walk that narrow line between alliances.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_02: But the petrodollar, to peak to be really honest, it was in 2000 where the Federal Reserve had to start buying our government bonds.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Because there was not enough global buyers of our debt.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: But that was quiet.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: That was under the radar.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: They didn't really want anybody to realize that, but that's an indication of the loss of the of the world reserve currency status, isn't it?
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know, shh, we don't want anybody to know.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_02: And then we look, take a look at the International Monetary Fund, the IMF, with their, now I don't know that this for sure will be the universal currency, but it always made sense to me.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: And they've got a universal currency in this umbrella that can contain every single currency on the planet into one place.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_02: So that makes international trading a whole lot easier because the citizens would have no idea that that was going on.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: Since if if this money contains every single currency, it's easy to translate into the local currency.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_02: So you have a universal currency for the big guys.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because even with all of the um the supply chain destruction that we've seen since 2020, what hasn't, what hasn't broken up?
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, the financial system.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_02: They've just gotten more and more and more integrated.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_02: When do you want to take your power back?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: They are bigger than we are because we're fragmented.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: But we are bigger than they are when we come together.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Well said.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, right to the point.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: And and I think um, so so I think cutting to the quick and dealing with this kind of um situation, the paper markets are going to lose control.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: And certainly the petrodollar is is a good input for this.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: So, as oil, for example, stops backing the dollar, something else must anchor value.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: And gold is the only first-share asset that can replace the dollar to provide a liquid uh reserve hedge settlement alternative.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: So, and that is exactly what the rubles convertible into gold, the yuan is convertible to gold, and vice versa.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: So, so when you the minute you you actually sell it into uh convert it into the Yuan, you're now actually backing oil with gold.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I looked the other day, I mean it right now, it when we before this war, it took 70 ounces um uh you know, oil, you you it was basically the other way around.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: So basically oil it would would would you could buy oil with uh I think uh 75 ounces of uh or sorry, an ounce would buy you 75 ounces of barrels of barrels of oil.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Now it's 40.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: But in 2008, it was 0.156 ounces to buy a uh$145 oil because gold was only 900 bucks.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, the point is if we go back to this is to me, you you're going all the way back to the 19 uh 1970 when uh when when literally this whole concept, this petrodollar evil concept was was was concocted.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, we'll protect you, you use this, we do that.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: But before all this happened, it took 0.1 uh uh ounces of gold to buy oil.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_01: It why would it not ultimately reverse to that?
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because as of today's price, oil should be at that rate, it should be 750 bucks per barrel, which you think obviously ludicrous because it wouldn't happen.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: So, so the other the only thing that the only thing that can happen is that slowly, slowly, slowly, we get back to before Nixon took the whole thing off this off the gold standard.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and because why is anyone going to pay for uh real assets use to sell their real assets into a debasing dollar that you can print limitless amounts of?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: Why would they do that?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: But Andrew, why would you think that it wouldn't be possible for us to see$750 a barrel oil?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: Because there is no value in this crap.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_02: There's no value.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: You look on the purchasing power chart on the Federal Reserve Education Department, the Fred, and you'll see a big fat goose egg down there.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_02: And we just broke a critical uh critical level.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: I would we just broke another level.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: So now it is the the purchasing power of the US dollar out of a hundred in 1913.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: To your point, I'm gonna go back a little bit further than that.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_02: And now it's 0.029 cents.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_02: And they kept it at three cents for a while, but then they couldn't keep doing that, right?
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: So really, it it's it's like if I tell you, well, this is worth three million dollars, this one ounce of gold, you're gonna say, that's crazy.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's because people have been trained to value in this stuff, but you know, here, you know, my my famous$10 trillion Zimbabwe note, of which I can't even buy one egg with.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, that's why they revalue, they do those overnight revaluations because you could see a loaf of bread like in Zimbabwe at$80,000 for a loaf of bread.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: Then they go in, they do that overnight revaluation where they take this that has absolutely zero intrinsic value because it costs nothing to create this.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: It costs even less if all you do is push a button.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: And they revalue against gold because, to your earlier point, absolutely, gold is the global anchor.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: And what people don't remember or realize because of when we were born is that everything used to be priced in terms of gold, including the dollar.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_02: It was supposed to be one ounce of gold to$35 or$20, right?
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: So while gold is absolutely the global anchor against which all assets have been and will again be judged.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_02: Not dollars.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: Don't marry those dollars.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's all perception management.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: But silver is the fuse.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: And silver is like the canary in the coal mine, where it's letting you know that there is a breakdown.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_02: Look at the volatility in the silver market, even though it's still 18% above the 200-day moving average, which is an extreme level.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: It was up something like, I don't know, 70 or 80, whatever it was.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_02: But the reality is, is all of this volatility and the whip sawing, especially in silver, silver is telling us that the currency markets are breaking down.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: And gold is the anchor to that against which everything ultimately is always judged.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's just a repeat of history.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think this time is different?
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, not at all.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I think I uh I know that you go all around the world and you provide a little an example, a little card, and you give people cards all over the world.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: Have you got a copy there?
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because it was that's it.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so so so basically on one side you have a dime, which is explain that, please.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: This we're trying to help people have a paradigm shift.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_02: And and actually what happened is I lift weights every week.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I've been going to this guy for a bazillion years, and he is actually a lawyer-turned gym rat, right?
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so we were chatting, and we've had and his major was history in college.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: So we have some interesting conversations, and we were chatting one day, and I happened to mention that silver was the actual money in the US.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_02: And he said, it was.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I was shocked that he did not know that.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_02: And he's like in his mid-40s, and that's what helped me realize well, we're asking people to understand sound money when they've never even held it in their hand.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: So that's when we came up with this, with this.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: We're trying to help people have a paradigm shift.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_02: This is a coin that was in the US that was used as money prior to 1965, so 1964 and earlier.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: It is 90% silver.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to tell you something that seems logical.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: A dime, they're all 90%, so it's not exactly accurate, but it's easier to remember this way.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_02: A dime is a tenth of an ounce, a quarter is a quarter of an ounce, a half dollar is a half an ounce, and a silver dollar is an ounce.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_02: So this is a dime.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's roughly a tenth of an ounce of 90% silver.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_02: And on the day that we bought this, which happened to be February 27th of 2026, this dime cost us$6.72 because it's silver.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_02: On this side, you have a dime that was minted 1965 or later.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: There is no silver in it.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: And if you look on the edge of the card, you can see this is all silver and this has like a copper color in there.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_02: But what can you buy with a dime here?
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: So$6.72.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: Remember that song during the depression?
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: Buddy, can you spare a dime?
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_02: You could buy a meal with a dime.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_02: You can still buy a meal with a dime.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: Not maybe not a big meal, but you can buy a meal with a dime.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: What can you get with this dime?
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: So when money becomes more expensive than the cost to create it, they downgrade, they downgrade, they downgrade.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's what happened in 33 when they confiscated.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_02: There were other reasons, obviously, too, but that's what happened in 33 because of all the money that they had printed.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what happened in 65.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: And by 71, there was a run on the dollar in the 60s.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: There was a run on the dollar I can show you.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_02: But there you go.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: So that's our paradigm.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: And if you don't have any, Andrew, we have to get you some that you can give away.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: And you can follow, everybody can follow the QR code, learn more about it.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I go around the world putting sound money in people's hands, particularly when I see a table with some kids that are, you know, at least like about seven, eight years old, is kind of what I'm looking for with their parents.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'll go up and say, is it okay if I give your children something?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: And they, I haven't had anybody say no, because they're sitting right there, right?
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I give them these dime cards and I explain it.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: And every, I mean, the kids are like, and I don't take up more than 30 seconds because I think that's rude, unless they want to ask me questions afterwards.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so I know these dime cards are all over the world.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_02: I just recently got back from New Zealand.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_02: I met a family that were visiting from Hong Kong.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I've been to Malaysia and Cambodia and all over.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: And that's that's what I do.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: This is a global movement.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_02: We have got to get sound money back in the system again.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_02: And people do remember it if they're my age.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: They go, oh yeah, I remember that.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_02: But it's the younger people and the education, which is really what we do a lot of for citizens for sound money.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: And by the way, I didn't tell you this, but I think this is probably one of the most important things about that, is that both Kim and Daniel have made their cell phones and emails available.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_02: So if you are trying to do something and you get stuck, you can talk to them directly.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_02: You can text them, and they'll tell you what to do.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's, you know, I'm so happy and proud, like you guys are.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: Kinesis is also sits on the board of Citizens for Sound Money.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: We've got it, we've got this is the most important battle we could ever fight.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: Oh gosh, yeah, absolutely.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: But I think what you're doing is you're making it accessible and and um to people, and you're catching people um who then talk to other people.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it it's one of those things.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you talk about community, it people want that.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: People miss that.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_01: We're in living in an insular world, everyone is insular, but but actually when when it comes down to it, we're interdependent.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: So we're very interdependent, and and that's powerful.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you talked about that last time.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe talk about a little bit of I mean you you even used an example.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um if all the things come to crash down, you still have the ability to barter your energy against there's only one thing you can barter it against, and that's either things that you can eat or or or gold, silver, whatever it might be.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, gold and silver are universal money, right?
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_02: And the beauty, okay, so my mantra, as you know, food, water, energy, security, barterability, which for me is primarily silver, but not only silver.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh wealth preservation, which for me is primarily gold, but not only gold.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: That uh community, which we've got to do it because I know what it took me, and and I'd like a little more time to get ready.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm more ready than there's only one other person I've ever met that's more ready than me.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I'd still like a little bit more time, but um, you know, and that shelter piece, because these are the things that we need to sustain a reasonable standard of living.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_02: And so when I say, you know, it's silver for barterability, but not only silver, you brought this point up.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_02: What do you have to barter with but your labor?
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: Now you need a place to hold any excess labor.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_02: And when you stop and think about how the world was so, and we need it, we need something that enables us to price things, transact or barter, um, make sure that you're fairly paid for your labor today, and make sure that no matter when you use that money that generated that labor, you're always fairly paid for it.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_02: Fiat takes that one away.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: It mimics the other three, but you can hold all of that energy, your work energy here, because it doesn't go away, like my strawberries.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_02: My strawberries, if we're bartering, and strawberries are great to barter with, but if I don't find somebody that wants strawberries that has something that I want, they have a shelf life.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: They're gonna die, right?
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_02: So they're they're gonna shrivel up and you can't eat them anymore.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_02: Where that's not gonna happen with silver.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's why silver is the universal currency, right?
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: So this is a universal currency that doesn't go bad, right?
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why silver is important, but any talent, and I'd also like to bring up that gold and silver in any form is monetary at its base.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: So there are all different ways that you can accumulate.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_02: Kinesis is certainly one way.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I have a whole tray here full of a whole bunch of old sterling silver, which is 92.5% pure.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so there are many different ways to get it done, but we need some universal uh money.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_02: And that's really how gold and silver create that bridge to get you from this one place where we are right now into the new system.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: But let's come together and make it a system that's fair.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_02: What a concept.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_02: Let's make it a system where they cannot rob you of your time and work and wealth.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: What a concept.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: Especially as most people I've ever met are fair and nice people.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: And and it's a really it's just uh, I mean, people there are certain people that aren't, but but but again, that's that's a challenge, and that's I always find that a challenge.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, so it's good to have these discussions with people, but and effort at least because they had a bad experience, but but uh but most people are, and I think so.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_01: That resonates with 98%, 99% of all the people, it resonates.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_01: So it doesn't matter where you're coming from, I'll start.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: You could start from that point.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: Do you want everything to be fair?
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: Is is it fair at the moment?
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_01: Most people say, no, it's not fair.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: So how how do I get to a point where it is?
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_01: And again, it's about community.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I think what's one of the key things that most people don't make that connection to, it is the ability to actually uh have a community and to actually uh power that community.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and I think that's what you do, you do on a regular basis.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's what I try and do.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_02: Pull people together, bring people together, because we have been intentionally divided.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_02: Because if you're not having these conversations, and I got news for you, I do not have to agree with everybody.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_02: Every Tuesday I do my live, and there are no questions that are off limits unless they're bigoted.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_02: Those I will not answer.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: But anything else, absolutely bring another opinion.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's when you end up with the best solutions when you've got a variety, a diversity in ages, in points of view.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why the global pieces, but we have to come together and have these conversations and help each other.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_02: And if we do that, and I know we can, if I can get even 3%, that's all I'm looking for.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_02: 3% of the global population to position into gold and silver, we can do it.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm 100% certain we can do it.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: I I know you've I know you've got a timeline here.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: So let me just say uh one of the things I run across now, one of the big things I run across all the time is I'm and I had a conversation with somebody, and we talk about wealthy, high net worth people as well.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: And they say, Yeah, great, you're in gold, but hey, isn't it volatile?
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: And this is why I carry a sovereign with me all the time, a sovereign.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I say, because they're they're they're English, so I say, you realize that this this this this coin hasn't changed, but in 1933, I could go to the bank and I could exchange it for a pound, and now it's 900 pounds.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_01: But what's changed?
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_01: This hasn't changed, it's the same coin.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_01: So, and in fact, even it's dated even back then.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: So, so what's changed?
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's a very much, I think I love your silver idea because it brings it right down to a level where um where you can really understand it from a child upwards.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's utility, you know, that has it doesn't matter in Wall Street, and for Wall Street it's a trade.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_02: But for Main Street, it's utility.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, most of us live in Main Street, and we need that utility, especially in this transition.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Lynnette, you've been so generous with your time.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_01: I know that you're a busy, busy, busy person.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you've got things other other people want your want a piece of your time.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: So um, but but how do people well we'll obviously put the links up, but you've got some um, I think you've got some fresh links for fresh website, and um, so we'll get all those up for you.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh, and then but then anything else that you want to say to people before we uh close the interview?
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_02: I I would say that we are running out of time.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: So once you get, I mean, get it set up.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_02: If you want, we are very happy to help anybody know how much gold and how much silver they are based on the fundamental value and what you're trying to accomplish.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: This part is is easy peasy, and we're very happy to do that.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_02: But just get it done.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_02: You know, get your strategy in place, meet the people in your local community and join Citizens for Sell Money, and let's make a difference in this world.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_02: Let's make a really positive difference in this world.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_01: Well said, and I think that's a perfect place to uh really just end this, but not really, it's not an ending, it's a beginning.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much, Lynette, for sparing your valuable time with us.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: Always love having you here.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_01: People will really, really um look forward to seeing this.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's great to be here anytime.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: All right, thanks for joining us on this episode of Live from the Vault, brought to you by Kinesis Money.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: And a huge thank you to Andrew McGuire and to our featured guest, Lynette Zhang, for cutting through the noise and sharing insights that you just won't find anywhere else.
• 53:41
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• 53:50
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• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: And we're back soon with more hard-hitting truths from inside the precious metal space.
• 54:02
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• 54:08
  SPEAKER_00: Bye for now.