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Credlin | 21 October · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandlin live on Skying in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show. Great to have your company.
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Speaker 2: As always is what's coming up tonight on Kredline Warm
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Speaker 2: scenes today out of camera, King Charles Queen Kimilla visiting
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Speaker 2: Parliament House of Australian War Memorial. The enthusiasm of the
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Speaker 2: crowds young and old. We're in stark contrast with a
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Speaker 2: self indulgence so that Senatorial shrew Lydia Thorpe will get
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Speaker 2: the latest MA Royal reporter on the ground as the
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Speaker 2: engagements for the Wroyld couple continue. Our world class salmon
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Speaker 2: industry in limbo, rumors that Minister Tanya Pleversyk is set
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Speaker 2: to decimate the industry and this key player in Tasmania's
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Speaker 2: expert economy. I'll speak to the CEO for the latest.
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Speaker 2: In a moment, the Victorian mum who says Daniel and
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Speaker 2: Andrew's appointment is chair of a youth mental health service
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Speaker 2: is a slap in the face. She joins me tonight
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Speaker 2: and explains why she and thousands others want him removed
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Speaker 2: from the role. The Queensland election heads into its final weeks,
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Speaker 2: the poll set to close on Saturday, and a weekend
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Speaker 2: of youth crime violence in Townsville sends a bad omen
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Speaker 2: for Labour's chances of holding power. And in the US
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Speaker 2: the poles are tightening, meaning some novel campaign moves. Kamala
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Speaker 2: Harris misses out on a big Catholic.
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Speaker 3: Dinner in New York.
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Speaker 2: It's long been a must attend for candidates, and Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump gets behind the counter at McDonald's and goes viral
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Speaker 2: at the friar's counter, I like this.
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Speaker 4: I think I might come back and do it again.
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Speaker 5: Thank you never touches the human hand full.
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Speaker 6: Thank you too many people like us.
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Speaker 3: I mean you.
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Speaker 6: Prayed by you.
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Speaker 2: For first Those wonderful scenes out of Canberra today as
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Speaker 2: King Charles arrived to big crowds outside the Australian War
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Speaker 2: Memorial before being officially welcomed to Parliament House by the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister and assorted other dignitaries. Now give me Act's
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Speaker 2: hard left population borne out by the fact on Saturday
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Speaker 2: night the territory reelected Labor for a record seventh term.
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Speaker 2: The scenes of people lining up ten and deep to
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Speaker 2: greet the King would have upset plenty of Republicans. They
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Speaker 2: would just love getting under their skins, knowing they've never
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Speaker 2: really recovered after that referendum defeat. Is this cartoon depicting
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Speaker 2: Republicans saw loser Malcolm Turbul being forced to watch the
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Speaker 2: welcome on the opera house sales for the King and Queen.
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Speaker 3: So beautifully shows.
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Speaker 2: But he's just one of a number of elites upset
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Speaker 2: at the King's positive reception because while the belligerent Labor
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Speaker 2: premiers might have stayed away, ordering Australians have not.
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Speaker 3: I'm a head of the Republican movement.
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Speaker 2: The journalist Peter Fitzimon's who on X over the weekend,
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Speaker 2: had this spray saying the media courage of the royal
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Speaker 2: visit was and I quote he says, bugger all. But
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Speaker 2: that jaded analysis of media disinterest was quickly rejected by
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Speaker 2: nine's Media and entertainment reporter Peter Ford, who said this
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Speaker 2: on Morning Radio.
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Speaker 7: I don't know where he's been all weekend, hiding under
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Speaker 7: a rocker, whether it's this wishful thinking, because obviously this
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Speaker 7: is not what he wants to have happened. But you
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Speaker 7: can't pretend it's not there. I mean, the coverage has
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Speaker 7: been massive, you know. According to Peter fitz Simon's now
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Speaker 7: there's no real interest in it and there's no coverage
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Speaker 7: for it.
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Speaker 1: Well he's just running interference, hey Pete, Yeah, well I
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Speaker 1: think so.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: Poles are showing that support for republic is it a
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Speaker 2: generational low. So you can understand that Republican movement's bitterness
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Speaker 2: and the sense they've missed the bus and they went
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Speaker 2: on the right side of history, a bit like those
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Speaker 2: very same elites who missed the bus on the Voice.
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Speaker 2: Because funny, isn't it almost everyone who supported the Voice
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Speaker 2: was a Republican, or said that almost every Republican supported
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Speaker 2: the Voice. Whichever way it is, they're wrong and they
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Speaker 2: copped a good lesson in the power of democracy from
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Speaker 2: Australia's silent majority, didn't they everyday Australian support the Crown
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Speaker 2: because it is steadfast and above party politics. It's sometimes
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Speaker 2: hard to know who the Prime Minister is going from
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Speaker 2: one week to the next, but that's never the case
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Speaker 2: with the Crown. The death of the beloved Queen, which
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Speaker 2: the Republicans always said would be their opportunity to pounce,
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Speaker 2: has instead meant a seamless transition to her son, and
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Speaker 2: because of the line of succession, we can be clear
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Speaker 2: about who will be our monarch many decades on. And
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Speaker 2: while as the Prince of Wales, Charles might have been
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Speaker 2: too much of a climate zealot for everyone's taste, mine included,
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Speaker 2: Alexander Downer made that point today. He has been an
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Speaker 2: exemplary king so far, as shown in his speech today
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Speaker 2: saluting our democracy. More and more, I think Australians are
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Speaker 2: looking at places like America and sensing that our constitutional
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Speaker 2: monarchy is the best system of government, or at least
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Speaker 2: better than any of the alternatives. Monarchy keeps a part
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Speaker 2: of our public life free of parties strife. It means
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Speaker 2: as someone to call us together on great occasions and small,
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Speaker 2: someone who is above and beyond politics. And for me,
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Speaker 2: as a lawyer, I always draw a distinction between the
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Speaker 2: royal family and the crown, but not mutually exclusive, of course,
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Speaker 2: because there's always a royal who wears the crown, but
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Speaker 2: the crown of the apex of our system of government
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Speaker 2: is something special. So I always ask the Republicans, if
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Speaker 2: not the crown at the top, what or who would
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Speaker 2: you want instead? Now that then takes us down the
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Speaker 2: path of an elected president. I mean, do you want
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Speaker 2: Kevin Radle, Twiggy Forrest or some Aboriginal activist like Lydia
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Speaker 2: Thorpe put in charge of our democracy.
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Speaker 3: Kind of sign against our people.
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Speaker 1: Get up our land back, give us by your style
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Speaker 1: from us, our bones, our star, our baby, our people.
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Speaker 5: Decid we want the training in this country. Give up.
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Speaker 3: What a shrew?
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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, she is a disgrace if she hates
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Speaker 2: the king and the crown so much she just quits
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Speaker 2: the parliament and donates her big salary to charity. And
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Speaker 2: as for all the talk that he's a British king, well,
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Speaker 2: if we can share with Britain a language, a legal
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Speaker 2: system and a parliamentary democracy, what's wrong with sharing our
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Speaker 2: king too?
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Speaker 3: I mean I can be a.
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Speaker 2: Wife, a worker, a TV broadcaster or a columnist, a
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Speaker 2: Victorian and an Australian. It can be all those things
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Speaker 2: at once, and Charles can readily be the King of
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Speaker 2: Australia at the same time he is also the King
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Speaker 2: of England. For me, the Crown's a grace note in
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Speaker 2: our public life and the chance to say with feeling,
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Speaker 2: may God bless Australia and make God save the king.
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Speaker 2: Look ause a Queensland election enters its final week. Here's
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Speaker 2: why the result matter is not just to those in
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Speaker 2: the Sunshine State, right across the country. There's no doubt
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Speaker 2: that the coalition, should it win on Saturday, it will
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Speaker 2: support the police to crack down on youth crime. And
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Speaker 2: what the coalition says it will do is already being
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Speaker 2: talked up in other states equally too. That we know
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Speaker 2: more talk of treaties said Queensland. Should the L and
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Speaker 2: P win, or rewriting our history is the story of shame.
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Speaker 2: But it's on energy that a Chrysopooley government will be
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Speaker 2: nationally significant, even though modern life absolutely depends on affordable
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Speaker 2: and reliable electricity.
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Speaker 3: For the past.
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Speaker 2: Decade and a half, our power system has been run
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Speaker 2: primarily to reduce emissions rather than to live affordable power.
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Speaker 2: By promising to keep Queensland's coal fired power stations open
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Speaker 2: for as long as needed, Christofooley will start to resort
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Speaker 2: restore some sanity to the energy system. And while the
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Speaker 2: federal government's pursuing snowy two point zero the turble white Elephant,
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Speaker 2: that's ten billion dollars plus over budget, almost a decade
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Speaker 2: behind in schedule. Christophiley says he'll dump labors pumped hydro
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Speaker 2: pipe dreams in his home state. Every other state government,
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Speaker 2: including the liberal one in Tasmania, currently echoes Chris Bowen's
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Speaker 2: rectoric about an unstoppable move to an electricity supply totally
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Speaker 2: reliant on intermittent wind and solar, even though no country
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Speaker 2: in the world is doing what we are doing at
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Speaker 2: the pace we are doing it. Meanwhile, New South Wales
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Speaker 2: and Victoria or they're surreptitiously paying millions to keep coal
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Speaker 2: fired power stations open so they can keep the lights on.
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Speaker 2: And the International Energy Agency has just reported a new
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Speaker 2: global record for burning coal to produce electricity thanks to
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Speaker 2: China and India's insatiable demand. The target Bowen set in
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Speaker 2: government in order to meet Labour's eighty two percent renewables
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Speaker 2: by twenty thirty target, that's the installation of twenty two
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Speaker 2: thousand new solar panels every single day, forty large wind
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Speaker 2: turbines every single month, and at least ten thousand kilometers
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Speaker 2: of new transmission lines in just seven years. Well that's
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Speaker 2: hopelessly behind schedule.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Chris A.
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Speaker 2: Fooley erred badly and not backing his federal colleagues plan
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Speaker 2: for emissions free but cheap and reliable nuclear power. But
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Speaker 2: by explicitly backing Cole, he's shown the courage and the
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Speaker 2: realism that state coalition oppositions have long lacked. All right,
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Speaker 2: we'll go to Camberra now sign the scene of all
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Speaker 2: of those official ceremonies today. We'll get the headlines now,
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Speaker 2: Skynews political reporter Cam Reddin.
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Speaker 8: Touching down in the nation's capital, the King of Australia
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Speaker 8: gets up close and personal with adoring supporters. Among the
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Speaker 8: Canberra crowd is Hefner, the royal loving alpaca who gave
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Speaker 8: his own special welcome addressing dignitaries in the Great Hall
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Speaker 8: of Parliament House.
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Speaker 9: Australia's unique came character has endured, had also evolved outside.
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Speaker 8: A small group of protesters, including Senator Lydia Thorpe, filmed
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Speaker 8: in this scuffle with police once inside, taking her protest
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Speaker 8: direct to the Monarch himself.
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Speaker 1: We want the training in this country.
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Speaker 8: From Parliament House to housing policy. The coalition has unveiled
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Speaker 8: one of its signature plans it will take to the
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Speaker 8: next election, a five billion dollar proposal to build five
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Speaker 8: hundred thousand new homes.
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Speaker 10: Our housing industry and construction is overregulated and over.
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Speaker 8: Text making moves of its own. Victoria will slash stamp
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Speaker 8: duty for new apartments and townhouses bought off the plan
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Speaker 8: for the next twelve months.
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Speaker 9: I'm determined to be a builder, build more homes.
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Speaker 8: Over the weekend, a super Saturday of by elections in
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Speaker 8: New South Wales saw the Liberals retain the seats of
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Speaker 8: Epping and Hornsby, but Pittwater in Sydney's North fell to
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Speaker 8: Teal Independent Jackie Scrooby. I'm very keen to hear the
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Speaker 8: ground running. While in the act Andrew Barr's Labor Party
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Speaker 8: secured a record seventh term in office.
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Speaker 6: And you don't win elections by cruising through.
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Speaker 9: We have missed a genuine opportunity.
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Speaker 8: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberck.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to get to those headlines at a moment,
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Speaker 2: but first, this week marks the first ever arc OR
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Speaker 2: alliance for a Responsible Citizenship conference in Australia. The brilliant
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Speaker 2: historian Neil Ferguson's made the trip down Under and it
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Speaker 2: will be joined by a cast of many big thinkers
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Speaker 2: just into an amber. Jimp Price is just one who
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Speaker 2: will headline tomorrow's big event.
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Speaker 3: In Sydney.
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Speaker 2: So to my next guest, Kredlin regular former Deputy Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister of Australia John Anderson. John, thank you for your
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Speaker 2: time tonight. I wanted to get hold of you as
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Speaker 2: an ARC kicks off for its first conference in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Take my viewers through the genesis of ARC and why
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Speaker 2: it matters as much as it does.
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Speaker 5: The genesis of ARC was really found in a coming
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Speaker 5: together of people just two years and two or three
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Speaker 5: months ago.
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Speaker 4: That's all it was.
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Speaker 5: Now to tackle what we see as the way in
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Speaker 5: which we're almost talking ourselves into decline in the West.
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Speaker 5: We don't believe in ourselves, we don't believe in our values,
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Speaker 5: were divided. Trust is breaking down and we urgently need
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Speaker 5: to correct this and to see the things that confront
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Speaker 5: us as challenges to be run to and overcome rather
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Speaker 5: than catastrophes that are swamping us.
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Speaker 2: What are some of the big themes you're going to
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Speaker 2: tackle tomorrow.
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Speaker 5: Well, the four great themes that we took on in
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Speaker 5: London last year when we held our first major conference
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Speaker 5: fifteen hundred people, one hundred and fifty one Australians went
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Speaker 5: over were our history in white matters social Fabrican family,
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Speaker 5: energy in the environment, and business and prosperity. But what
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Speaker 5: we're particularly focusing on, while we'll touch on all of
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Speaker 5: those in an Australia in context tomorrow, is the link
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Speaker 5: between a culture that fractures, becomes distrustful, is unable to
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Speaker 5: identify its common good, becomes inward looking, and a weakening
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Speaker 5: economy which is then in turn not able to give
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Speaker 5: people the flourishing and the lifestyle opportunities that they want.
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Speaker 5: And we particularly see that at the moment we're talking
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Speaker 5: about the cost of living crisis. If we're not careful,
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Speaker 5: this will morph into a permanent structural decline in our
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Speaker 5: well being socially and economically as a nation.
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Speaker 2: You and I offer talk about the lefts long march
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Speaker 2: through the institutions, and I think the center right conservative
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Speaker 2: side has always felt things which just naturally right themselves.
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Speaker 3: That's not the story we.
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Speaker 2: See before us, particularly in Australia, particularly the divisions after
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Speaker 2: October seven. It's not what we're seeing around most of
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Speaker 2: the western world.
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Speaker 3: So is this the start of the fight back? Do
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Speaker 3: you think?
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Speaker 5: I sincerely hope.
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Speaker 9: So.
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Speaker 5: I mean, a lot of people with a lot of
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Speaker 5: good will are very enthusiastic. We're at a full house tomorrow,
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Speaker 5: seven hundred people here in Australia, people who want to
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Speaker 5: make a difference, who haven't bad the need, who haven't
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Speaker 5: given up. And I think it's really important that we
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Speaker 5: engage in the battle of ideas. Every one of us
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Speaker 5: lives in an environment that's been created by ideas, big, small, bad, good,
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Speaker 5: but too many bad ideas. Many of them started out
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Speaker 5: innoctantly as little ideas and have grown into big bad
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Speaker 5: ideas now dominate us. We know it. We know from
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Speaker 5: the research that people don't feel we're headed in the
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Speaker 5: right direction. We need to bravely unpack better thinking and
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Speaker 5: point the way to better policy, create a broader debate,
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Speaker 5: and frankly give our political leaders, many of whom want
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Speaker 5: to say things, but in this age are so constrained.
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Speaker 5: You put your head above the parapet, you get shot at.
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Speaker 5: We need to broaden the debate, We need to create
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Speaker 5: some space for honesty and politics.
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Speaker 2: If I'm critical of their servative side of politics, it
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Speaker 2: would have to be. I think that sometimes we don't
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Speaker 2: sell hope enough. We leave hope to the left, and
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Speaker 2: of course they're selling you know, snake oil they're not
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Speaker 2: selling hope, they're selling socialism. But we can't absent ourselves
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Speaker 2: from inspiring a whole new generation of young people to
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Speaker 2: back democracies and to back our civilization in the way
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Speaker 2: that we have for many generations, and it's been part
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Speaker 2: of our story of prosperity.
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Speaker 9: That we have.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's very hard to disagree with your proposition, and
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Speaker 5: in fact, hope is absolutely critical for people if they're
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Speaker 5: to if you like, face the challenges. There are plenty
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Speaker 5: of challenges. No one disputes that, for the spirit in
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Speaker 5: which you go about tackling them matters enormously. And we
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Speaker 5: see in the record levels of anxiety and depression and
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Speaker 5: self harm that sense of hopelessness. And I think you're right,
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Speaker 5: we've not been good at the whole question of encouraging
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Speaker 5: people to stand on the shoulders of the giants who
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Speaker 5: gave us the freedom and the prosperity we have. We
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Speaker 5: want a great discredit to us, I think, denigrate what
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Speaker 5: they've done and somehow or rather focus only on those
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Speaker 5: people in our culture who perhaps have made mistakes or
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Speaker 5: done the wrong thing. We cannot be bound by the past,
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Speaker 5: but we need to learn the positive lessons as well
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Speaker 5: as the negative. They didn't give up. The greatest generation
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Speaker 5: didn't give up. They saw us through depressions. They threw
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Speaker 5: so world wars, cold wars. They didn't give up. We
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Speaker 5: don't want our children condemning us for having given up
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Speaker 5: unhanded on a complete mess to them. That would be
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Speaker 5: a real tragedy.
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Speaker 2: Beautifully said John Anderson. That's one hell of a call
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Speaker 2: to arms for all of us. Thank you for joining
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Speaker 2: me tonight. I'll catch up with you a bit later on.
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Speaker 2: I'll be there tomorrow at Ark. I'm going to get
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Speaker 2: you well, grab as very interesting people as I can
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Speaker 2: find to speak to you on camera. I'll bring you
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Speaker 2: highlights of the event and tomorrow night's show. If you're
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Speaker 2: a Sky News subscriber, you can watch the conference online
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Speaker 2: sky News dot com dot AU. If you're a foxtail subscriber,
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Speaker 2: you can watch it here on our Sky News Election
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Speaker 2: Channel Channel six three. Tune in here tomorrow night six
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Speaker 2: for all the highlights. I'm joined now by my Headlines team,
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Speaker 2: sky News host National Affairs editor at the Day to Telegraph,
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Speaker 2: James Morrow, and Sky's political reporter out of Camera, Cam
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Speaker 2: Reddin Well Cam the World's Spotlight have to say it's
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Speaker 2: not just Australia focused on canbra today.
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Speaker 3: You had the King and Queen. They're with you.
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Speaker 2: They were of course in Sydney yesterday, but even lefty
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Speaker 2: old camera turned out the crowds.
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Speaker 3: Did you catch a bit of royal fever yourself?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, just a little bit, Peter. It's a lot of fun,
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Speaker 8: I've got to say. And you know you mentioned earlier
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Speaker 8: about the fading sort of hopes of some that this
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Speaker 8: might have been after the death of Queen Elizabeth II,
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Speaker 8: the big surge for a republic, even in a place
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Speaker 8: like Canbrey, you don't get that that is the feeling
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Speaker 8: at all here. I think there was one lonely bloke
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Speaker 8: out in the front with a flag saying get rid
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Speaker 8: of the monarchy. But aside from that, it was a
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Speaker 8: lot of fun and pomp and ceremony. You had grandmothers
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Speaker 8: and grandparents bringing their children along. There are a few
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Speaker 8: younger people in their teens bringing flowers and gifts for
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Speaker 8: the royals. It is a historic occasion, the first visit
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Speaker 8: by a monarch in thirteen years. But I also got
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Speaker 8: a sense today Peter, that there is an appreciation of
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Speaker 8: how many opportunities there may be going forward for King
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Speaker 8: Charles to make this visit. We know he's put his
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Speaker 8: cancer treatment on hold in order to make the trip
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Speaker 8: out to Australia. He wanted to come here as King.
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Speaker 8: He'll be off in Samorro over the next few days
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Speaker 8: for the Commonwealth heads of government. But I think the
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Speaker 8: nature of his own personal health battles has just added
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Speaker 8: a little bit of extra significance to this visit. Today
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Speaker 8: that he went out to the War Memorial, he laid
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Speaker 8: a wreath at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier and
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Speaker 8: went out of his way to meet as many people,
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Speaker 8: including an our packer that sneezed on him. I don't
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Speaker 8: know how much he appreciated that, but spending a bit
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Speaker 8: of time up close with the people of Canada today
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Speaker 8: and Sydney yesterday, it's a moment a lot of people
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Speaker 8: he won't forget.
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Speaker 2: I was there when his mother came for her final
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Speaker 2: visit to Australia. There was a big event to Parliament
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Speaker 2: House and all the usual flunkies there.
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Speaker 3: Of course me included.
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Speaker 2: But it was interesting to watch all these labor parliamentarians
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Speaker 2: who used to thump the table about a republic turn
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Speaker 2: to absolutely mush when this woman, who would have been
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Speaker 2: about five foot two, graciously sort of you know, worked
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Speaker 2: away through the crowd. They're all beside themselves. I might
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Speaker 2: also add I picked this up today and I had
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Speaker 2: not dawned on me. This is the first time an
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Speaker 2: English king has come to Australia this case, obviously he's
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Speaker 2: the King of Australia. Every other reigning monarch to visit
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Speaker 2: US has been a queen female. Let's go to that
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Speaker 2: polling out today, James will move on. Peter Dutton has
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Speaker 2: drawn almost even with Anthony Albanizi is a preferred prime
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Speaker 2: minister according to the AFI.
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Speaker 3: This is the fresh water poll.
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Speaker 2: Albanesi now sits at forty four percent, a drop of
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Speaker 2: eleven points since December twenty twenty two, the opposition leader
20:57
Speaker 2: gaining significant ground on the other side fourteen points to
21:01
Speaker 2: forty three percent.
21:02
Speaker 3: Now.
21:02
Speaker 2: In terms of net approvals, Dutt now sits at negative two.
21:07
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister sits at negative fourteen now. At the
21:11
Speaker 2: same time, and I watched this one last night, Jim Chalmers,
21:14
Speaker 2: well that you're part of a pretty softball interview on
21:16
Speaker 2: Channel seven Spotlight program. He discussed booze and leadership ambitions.
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Speaker 4: In what circumstances would you seek the leadership. I can't
21:27
Speaker 4: see any circumstances, frankly.
21:29
Speaker 11: You know, my goal here is to be a good
21:32
Speaker 11: treasurer in a great labor government which is led by
21:35
Speaker 11: Anthony from start to finish.
21:37
Speaker 4: You know, that's my objective.
21:38
Speaker 11: And when I reflect on that, or occasionally when I'm
21:41
Speaker 11: asked about that by people like yourself, you know, I'm
21:44
Speaker 11: quite proud of the decision that I took in twenty
21:47
Speaker 11: nineteen to support Anthony for the leadership.
21:49
Speaker 4: I think that decision has been vindicated.
21:52
Speaker 2: James, they played way there, bull tish. Of course, he's
21:57
Speaker 2: absolutely eyeing off the top job.
21:59
Speaker 10: Well yeah, And I mean it's pretty interesting because you
22:02
Speaker 10: can read Peter that last little thing he said as
22:05
Speaker 10: a couple of ways, you know, oh, his decision to
22:07
Speaker 10: back Alba who has been vindicated, you know, because of
22:11
Speaker 10: Albanesi's prime ministership, or because it's given him the access
22:15
Speaker 10: to this point now where he could be in a
22:17
Speaker 10: business challenge down the road. Just on those poll numbers there, Peter,
22:22
Speaker 10: I think it's really interesting. You know, it shows to
22:24
Speaker 10: me the huge disconnect between kind of the Twitter class,
22:28
Speaker 10: the media political class, in this country and what's happening
22:31
Speaker 10: out there in real Australia. You know, what you look
22:34
Speaker 10: at in those numbers is objective data saying that the
22:37
Speaker 10: tide is running out on Anthony ALBINIZI. People have stopped listening.
22:41
Speaker 10: That's what that huge disapproval rating is all about. And
22:45
Speaker 10: I don't know if that was even taken before or
22:47
Speaker 10: after the news about his four point three million dollar
22:49
Speaker 10: cliff top home of Copacabana Brooke. But putting that aside,
22:53
Speaker 10: you know, all of these people in politicalls say oh,
22:55
Speaker 10: Peter dunn't can't be leader, you know, but it's the
22:57
Speaker 10: same sort of stuff that they said about Tony Abbott
22:59
Speaker 10: and you all know how that wound up, And so
23:02
Speaker 10: you know, I think there's a lot of disingenuousness there
23:05
Speaker 10: back on Jim Chompers's part to be saying oh no, no, no, no,
23:08
Speaker 10: we're just going to let Lenalbo have a run of this.
23:10
Speaker 10: Well yeah, well we'll see.
23:14
Speaker 2: What about this reporting The Australian Today cam they're going
23:16
Speaker 2: to run a hard, negative, very personal campaign against Peter Dutton.
23:21
Speaker 2: Labour says that they'll target Dutton all these other reports
23:24
Speaker 2: as arrogant, aggressive, and reckless. Now I have to say,
23:28
Speaker 2: when you haven't got a record to run on, you
23:31
Speaker 2: go to the bottom drawer and you pull out the
23:33
Speaker 2: character assassinations. And clearly that's Labour's plan.
23:38
Speaker 8: It's hard to run a negative campaign from government. I'd
23:41
Speaker 8: argue too, Peter, you want to be pumping up your
23:43
Speaker 8: own record and focusing on what you're doing rather than
23:45
Speaker 8: talking about the guy who's not in government yet. And
23:48
Speaker 8: I think what makes it harder for Labour too is
23:50
Speaker 8: that Peter Dutton is hardly being a small target. You
23:52
Speaker 8: look at the nuclear policy for example, They've had a
23:55
Speaker 8: new housing policy over the weekend. There'll be more to
23:57
Speaker 8: come on tax and other things. Peter Dutton is throwing
23:59
Speaker 8: a lot of things out there, so there are balls
24:01
Speaker 8: the government will need to play before they start to
24:03
Speaker 8: play the man. And I think they also got some
24:06
Speaker 8: indication of that. Around the initial pushback against the nuclear policy.
24:10
Speaker 8: We saw some Labor MPs putting out cartoons of three
24:14
Speaker 8: eyed fish and green colored water, all of which fell
24:17
Speaker 8: flat and suddenly they had to course correct and take
24:19
Speaker 8: it a little bit more seriously. You're not going to
24:21
Speaker 8: laugh Peter Dutton away from the government benches if labor's
24:24
Speaker 8: going to win. It'll have to be an engaged debate
24:26
Speaker 8: on policy, you would think, because when it's an election
24:29
Speaker 8: on cost of living, on housing, on kitchen table issues,
24:32
Speaker 8: that's what's going to swing people. It's not just going
24:34
Speaker 8: to be tough talk and character assessments.
24:36
Speaker 2: Let's say, with character assassinations and political campaigns, we've got
24:40
Speaker 2: to the US. James, Kamala Harris missed a very big
24:42
Speaker 2: dinner in New York. It's been a feature of presidential
24:46
Speaker 2: campaigns for decades.
24:47
Speaker 3: She didn't turn up.
24:48
Speaker 2: Now that's telling. And then we see Donald Trump shake
24:51
Speaker 2: things up at McDonald to have a listen.
24:54
Speaker 5: I've now worked for fifteen minutes more than Kabala.
24:57
Speaker 3: You gonna put this on your resume.
24:59
Speaker 6: It ever work here.
25:01
Speaker 5: This is when I could do this all day.
25:02
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind this job.
25:04
Speaker 8: I like this show.
25:05
Speaker 7: I think I might come back and.
25:06
Speaker 8: Do it again.
25:07
Speaker 2: Thank you day what I said, a's in front of
25:10
Speaker 2: the camera. And two weeks to go, James, almost to
25:13
Speaker 2: just over two weeks to go.
25:14
Speaker 3: Give us your rate on how things stand.
25:16
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look, even forty eight hours ago, I was
25:18
Speaker 10: saying that this was going to be a very tight election,
25:21
Speaker 10: where it was just too close to Colbert. I really
25:22
Speaker 10: feel like right now the momentum is shifting Donald Trump's way.
25:26
Speaker 10: And you know one of the big reasons why is
25:29
Speaker 10: you just don't simply see a day where Harris wins
25:32
Speaker 10: the news cycle. You know, she sits out the Al
25:35
Speaker 10: Smith dinner last week and leaves it open for Donald
25:38
Speaker 10: Trump to dominate the airways and the media and the
25:40
Speaker 10: social media with all the clips of him taking really
25:43
Speaker 10: hilarious zings at her the Democrats. Then you know, he
25:47
Speaker 10: is out there doing the McDonald's thing. That's of course
25:50
Speaker 10: a poke at her claim that she worked at McDonald's
25:52
Speaker 10: when she was young as a summer job. No evidence
25:55
Speaker 10: has been provided that she did, by the way, so
25:57
Speaker 10: you know who knows about that. But he also seems
25:59
Speaker 10: to be having a great time and doing again stuff
26:02
Speaker 10: with the common people there, which I think is this
26:04
Speaker 10: real touch despite being this billionaire property developer, reality TV
26:08
Speaker 10: start on all of that. You know, he, in many
26:10
Speaker 10: ways I think, seems more normal and understandable than Kamala Harris,
26:17
Speaker 10: who seems still like a very strange person who people
26:19
Speaker 10: don't really know and who can't answer questions and talks
26:22
Speaker 10: about being a middle class kid. But whatever, because she's
26:25
Speaker 10: never even won a primary vote, so she comes in
26:28
Speaker 10: with that weakness.
26:29
Speaker 2: And despite having the biggest or second biggest job in
26:31
Speaker 2: the nation for four years.
26:33
Speaker 3: I think that's extraordinary.
26:35
Speaker 2: Just quickly, Cam We've had a lot of housing announcements
26:38
Speaker 2: in the last three days. We had the Coalition announcing
26:41
Speaker 2: five billion dollars to unlock up to half a million
26:44
Speaker 2: homes over the weekend. Back to course by a whole
26:47
Speaker 2: lot of players, including the BDA. The Victorian government announces
26:51
Speaker 2: today it's going to slash stamp duty on off the
26:54
Speaker 2: plan apartments only, and they've got a lot of people
26:58
Speaker 2: up in arms and some leafy suburbs and more because
27:01
Speaker 2: yesterday on Sunday they announced they're going to build a
27:04
Speaker 2: whole lot of high rise apartment towers in area. They
27:08
Speaker 2: will rezone what ten or fifteen suburbs. Now, this is
27:14
Speaker 2: one I know it's a state issue, but I think
27:17
Speaker 2: it could work out in Dutton's favor if Anthony Albanezi
27:21
Speaker 2: isn't careful given where and the seats these towers are
27:25
Speaker 2: planned to go into.
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Speaker 8: Definitely Peter and you've got to think about the role
27:30
Speaker 8: for local councils. I think here too, you've got to
27:32
Speaker 8: bring people along because there's an agreement broadly. I believe
27:35
Speaker 8: in the community that we need to build more homes.
27:38
Speaker 8: The question is exactly where and exactly how. We've seen
27:40
Speaker 8: similar pushback from some mayors in Sydney too against Chris
27:44
Speaker 8: Min's and the labour plan there to rezone around train
27:46
Speaker 8: stations and along those transportation lines. It's difficult. You've got
27:50
Speaker 8: to get the balance right, but surely there is a
27:52
Speaker 8: sensible middle ground between not clogging up the transport we
27:56
Speaker 8: have but also providing enough housing and of course that
27:59
Speaker 8: ever present challenge Peter, of getting enough people to build it.
28:01
Speaker 8: That's still the challenge we need to address everywhere.
28:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll be housing cost of living, of course,
28:06
Speaker 2: but Housie will feature heavily.
28:07
Speaker 3: Jen think if your time it's still ahead.
28:09
Speaker 2: Tasmania's billion dollar salmon industry in limbo as they await
28:13
Speaker 2: the results of a review by Tanya Pleversk, with insiders
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Speaker 2: fearing a catastrophic decision is on its way. Next, we're
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Speaker 2: live to Canberra after a pack day for the King
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Speaker 2: and Queen. A full rap with a Royal reporter coming up.
28:27
Speaker 2: And later the Victorian Mum taking up the fight to
28:30
Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
28:35
Speaker 2: Still to come half the disastrous Blainey gold mine decision,
28:39
Speaker 2: Tasvania salmon industry on a knife siege, waiting for an
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Speaker 2: environmental decision from the Minister Tanya pleversek More on that
28:46
Speaker 2: in a moment, but let's go to Canberra now.
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Speaker 3: The King and Queen.
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Speaker 2: Touchdown in Australia late on Friday yesterday, met with crowds
28:54
Speaker 2: in Sydney before the King then addressed the dew South
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Speaker 2: Wales Parliament on the two hundredth anniversary of the creation
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Speaker 2: of the Upper House.
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Speaker 3: Today.
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Speaker 2: Of course, camera Skyese reported Julia Bradley hot on their trial. Julia,
29:07
Speaker 2: thanks for your time. It was a packed day of events.
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Speaker 2: I mean you forget that the King is seventy five.
29:12
Speaker 2: I think the Queen is seventy seven. I think they
29:16
Speaker 2: both outpaced younger people like you and I.
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Speaker 12: They were absolutely hitting it hard today, Peter, the King,
29:25
Speaker 12: as you say, seventy five but also battling cancer and
29:28
Speaker 12: it's been such a busy schedule today they would be
29:30
Speaker 12: absolutely wrecked by now. The day began at the Australian
29:34
Speaker 12: War Memorial when we saw their majesties arrived to pay
29:37
Speaker 12: their respects to Australian soldiers. The King, though, ended up
29:40
Speaker 12: being spat on by an alpaca. They then made their
29:43
Speaker 12: way to an official reception at Parliament House. That's when
29:47
Speaker 12: we saw the King give an address. Prime Minister Anthony
29:50
Speaker 12: Arberizi was there, also the Opposition leader Peter Dutton. They
29:54
Speaker 12: then held an official meeting at Government House with the King.
29:57
Speaker 12: That was the first time Peter Dutton has met him
30:00
Speaker 12: in an official capacity. This afternoon, though, more events really
30:04
Speaker 12: aligned with the King's priorities. So we've seen the Royal couple,
30:08
Speaker 12: for example, plant a tree. Are the Royal Botanic Gardens
30:11
Speaker 12: the National Botanic Gardens? Should I say, also visit the
30:14
Speaker 12: CSIRO to learn more about bushfires. This afternoon, her Majesty
30:19
Speaker 12: meeting with people in the domestic violence space.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been a long time advocate of all of that.
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Speaker 2: What I love every time I've been at any of
30:28
Speaker 2: these big receptions is you get sort of one view
30:32
Speaker 2: of the crowd in the official room and then you
30:36
Speaker 2: get a very different view out in the ground. So
30:38
Speaker 2: you were out there with ordinary people as the King
30:41
Speaker 2: and the Queen did their walk about. What were people saying,
30:45
Speaker 2: what was the level of engagement like.
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Speaker 12: Well, that was my big job for today, Peter, being
30:52
Speaker 12: out and about with the Royal fans who were lining
30:55
Speaker 12: the fore court here at Parliament House. So many excited
30:58
Speaker 12: people from all age. They traveled from far and wide
31:01
Speaker 12: to be here, inter state. I spoke to a couple
31:04
Speaker 12: from Rockhampton, a couple from Canada as well, so also
31:07
Speaker 12: overseas in Canberra, specifically to meet the King and Queen.
31:12
Speaker 12: It's his seventeenth visit to Australia, but the first since
31:16
Speaker 12: ascending the throne two years ago. People with makeshift crowns
31:19
Speaker 12: on their heads, they had banners, they were waving flags,
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Speaker 12: just really excited to mark this moment in history.
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Speaker 3: And we're to next.
31:29
Speaker 12: So next we will see the Royal couple heading to Sydney.
31:32
Speaker 12: So back to Sydney, a big day of events planned
31:35
Speaker 12: there tomorrow and this is where we will see Royal
31:38
Speaker 12: fans given another opportunity to meet and greet the Royal Couple.
31:42
Speaker 12: That will be outside of the Sydney Opera House in
31:44
Speaker 12: the afternoon. Prior to that, though, a big Aussie barbecue
31:48
Speaker 12: is being held in Western Sydney and that's been hosted
31:50
Speaker 12: by the New South Wales Premier. We'll see a celebration
31:53
Speaker 12: of multiculturalism there, I'm told, and also regional New South
31:57
Speaker 12: Wales produce this afternoon taking in a rural Australian Navy
32:01
Speaker 12: fleet review and they're heading of course to Samoa for
32:04
Speaker 12: that Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting.
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Speaker 2: Well, i'll say the city side as if you can
32:08
Speaker 2: get anywhere near the main part of the harbor down
32:12
Speaker 2: near the Opera House and watch the fleet review, you'll
32:15
Speaker 2: see absolutely every.
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Speaker 3: Ship you've ever imagined. It'll be fantastic. Julia, thank you.
32:20
Speaker 3: I've got to say too.
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Speaker 2: I've met the King at a lot of public events
32:23
Speaker 2: previously in his capacities to the Prince of Wales, but
32:26
Speaker 2: a couple of times in private audiences. I've been privileged
32:29
Speaker 2: to be sitting in the back chair in the room
32:32
Speaker 2: and he is very humble, very kind, funny and very warm.
32:37
Speaker 3: You'd be very surprised. I think I didn't expect to
32:40
Speaker 3: like him as much as I did. So there you go.
32:42
Speaker 2: That's a little bit of a personal insight. Well, let's
32:44
Speaker 2: go to Tasmania, where the future of the salmon industry
32:47
Speaker 2: is in Limbo, and it has been for the.
32:49
Speaker 3: Last twelve months.
32:50
Speaker 2: After a request from environment groups for a review into
32:53
Speaker 2: the industry in Macquarie Harbor, which is on the state's
32:56
Speaker 2: west coast, became underway. Federal Environment Minister Tania plevsk has
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Speaker 2: so far declined to reveal a timeline for making a decision,
33:06
Speaker 2: leaving at least three companies questioning their future viability. But
33:10
Speaker 2: in what's feared to be an ominous sign, the companies
33:13
Speaker 2: have reportedly been asked by the department for compensation estimates.
33:19
Speaker 2: For more on this, I'm joined now by Salmon Tasmania
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Speaker 2: CEO Luke Martin Luke, thank you for your time. Do
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Speaker 2: you know what this request from the environmental groups entailed?
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Speaker 9: You?
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Speaker 6: Leaving Peter and look going to give you some context
33:35
Speaker 6: around Corey Harbor. It's a large water system and you
33:39
Speaker 6: mentioned Sydney Harbor, I think Australias across to now it's
33:42
Speaker 6: actually six times larger than Sydney Harbor. So it's this
33:45
Speaker 6: huge water system on the west coast of Tasmania. And
33:48
Speaker 6: Salmon's been farmed in that harbor for about forty years
33:52
Speaker 6: and it's been operating sustainably. It's gone through various scales
33:55
Speaker 6: and differences of sizes. But it's been operating for a
33:58
Speaker 6: long time and it's gone through various different adminiserations of
34:02
Speaker 6: licensing from the federal government. So industry in twenty twelve
34:06
Speaker 6: received an approval under the EPBC Act from then Minister
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Speaker 6: Tony Burke to enable the industry to continue to grow
34:12
Speaker 6: and to set the framework around its operations as a
34:15
Speaker 6: non controlled action. And then twelve months ago, in response
34:19
Speaker 6: to some research about an endemic species in the harbor
34:22
Speaker 6: of the more Genescape, the three activist organizations, the Bob
34:27
Speaker 6: Brown Foundation, the Australian Institute and the Environmental Defender's Office
34:31
Speaker 6: wrote to the Minister Pibsk asking for that twenty twelve
34:34
Speaker 6: decision to effectively be reversed. So while we're operating limbo in industry,
34:38
Speaker 6: it's been operating this area for forty years, effectively going
34:42
Speaker 6: through this long drawn out, convoluted process trigged by three
34:46
Speaker 6: environmental organizations to effectively rip up our approvals to operate
34:50
Speaker 6: in the environment.
34:52
Speaker 2: Wow, Look, what's the level of consultation been like for
34:55
Speaker 2: the companies at the center of this storm?
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Speaker 11: Yeah?
34:58
Speaker 6: Look, well, I mean we've known for some time that
35:01
Speaker 6: there's a concern around this species the gene scape, and
35:04
Speaker 6: we're not knowing it. A lot of the research that's
35:05
Speaker 6: been done on this animal has been initiated by us
35:08
Speaker 6: and continue to play a role. It is an extraordinarily
35:12
Speaker 6: nique animal was located in one environment, the Southwest Wilderness
35:15
Speaker 6: and Bathurst Harbor, but is now found to only exist
35:18
Speaker 6: in choreatus. So it's a serious issue and we've never
35:20
Speaker 6: denied that the risks and the challenges around how we
35:23
Speaker 6: manage it. But again the scale of what the response
35:26
Speaker 6: has been in terms of ultimately putting everything that this
35:31
Speaker 6: industry is contributing the future of an industry that underpins
35:34
Speaker 6: the entire economic viability.
35:36
Speaker 4: Of this town.
35:37
Speaker 6: At one and two jobs in this town, it's effectively
35:40
Speaker 6: been drawn out through a really intense process, and we
35:44
Speaker 6: say it's ominous. The risk I think that I think
35:47
Speaker 6: more industries are starting to discover, particularly in Tasmania, is
35:49
Speaker 6: that this case case, the ability for activists to trigger
35:53
Speaker 6: a view of past GPBC decisions and our case twelve
35:58
Speaker 6: years ago is certain proven to be potential precedent for
36:01
Speaker 6: other processes that are and other decisions that have been
36:04
Speaker 6: made about the PBC not just in our industry, but
36:07
Speaker 6: for industries right across the country.
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Speaker 2: So these companies involved with they're not small. People will
36:11
Speaker 2: know them from their supermarket shelves of in Tassel human salmon,
36:16
Speaker 2: but tuna, I mean in sheer economic terms, in export
36:21
Speaker 2: terms out of Tasmania, in terms of wanting to buy
36:24
Speaker 2: Australian produce. If you're an Australian, eat what we grow,
36:27
Speaker 2: eat what we farm and fish here in this country.
36:30
Speaker 2: I mean this would be catastrophic. I mean, this is
36:33
Speaker 2: completely shut down the decision if it goes the way
36:36
Speaker 2: that the activists want.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, the context of Salem is an amazing story.
36:43
Speaker 6: It's an industry that didn't exist in Australia forty years
36:45
Speaker 6: ago and it is now not only its mainly a
36:47
Speaker 6: single largest primary industry, but it's Australia's largest seafood sector
36:52
Speaker 6: seafood catch. So it is an amazing story. And in
36:55
Speaker 6: fact it was on the menu for the King and
36:57
Speaker 6: Queen today.
36:58
Speaker 4: We've just discovered.
36:58
Speaker 6: So it's iconic Australia in product. It's an absolute god
37:02
Speaker 6: sends for the Susmanian community and economy because it generates
37:06
Speaker 6: jobs in regional towns and Strawn, which is four hours
37:10
Speaker 6: drive from Overt three hours drive from Lon Sestem. This
37:13
Speaker 6: industry has provided true Bible sustainable economic activity for that
37:17
Speaker 6: region for decades and that's true across the state. So
37:21
Speaker 6: you know we're under constant scrutiny. Were the most regulated
37:24
Speaker 6: industry in Tasmania by a long way now and clearly
37:27
Speaker 6: environmental activists have an agenda against our industry, not just
37:31
Speaker 6: in Tasmania.
37:32
Speaker 4: But throughout the globe.
37:33
Speaker 6: So we know that thesis of processes, they certainly undermine
37:37
Speaker 6: investment confidence for the industry, but more so it really
37:40
Speaker 6: does question that processes and structures were in place. As
37:44
Speaker 6: I say, you imagine an industry of any scale where
37:47
Speaker 6: you get approvals and then twelve years later, through one
37:50
Speaker 6: report can trigger a review not from regulators, not from scientists,
37:54
Speaker 6: not from a government agency, but triggers from three legal
37:58
Speaker 6: letters from three well known activistizations and an extraordinary process
38:01
Speaker 6: we've been drawing into.
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Speaker 3: It's shocking.
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Speaker 2: Look, I'm glad to be able to bring it to
38:05
Speaker 2: the attention of my audience tonight.
38:06
Speaker 3: We're going to stay across it.
38:07
Speaker 2: I certainly don't want to be buying my salmon from
38:11
Speaker 2: Norway or Scotland. I wanted from Tasmania. Let's hope it
38:14
Speaker 2: goes your way, Luke.
38:15
Speaker 3: Thank you.
38:16
Speaker 2: Right up the break, The mother of a teenage boy
38:18
Speaker 2: who took his own life during one of Victoria's harsh
38:21
Speaker 2: lockdowns speaks out after former Premier Daniel Andrews is a
38:25
Speaker 2: point of the chair of a youth mental health service,
38:29
Speaker 2: plus Chris Bow and amping up Labour's green push, vowing
38:31
Speaker 2: to spend more of your money underwriting renewables more in
38:39
Speaker 2: the doctor who wrote medicinal cannabis subscript prescriptions for twelve
38:45
Speaker 2: thousand patients in just six months. I mean this is
38:48
Speaker 2: a criminalization by stealth. So is it time to overhaul
38:52
Speaker 2: our telehealth system? But now to a story that hits
38:56
Speaker 2: close to home for me. In April twenty twenty, sixteen
39:00
Speaker 2: year old Lewis Sherman took his own life. His mum
39:04
Speaker 2: is a very close friend of mine Ange and she
39:07
Speaker 2: says it was isolation and loneliness for Victoria's strick COVID
39:10
Speaker 2: lockdowns that led to her tragedy. So imagine her reaction
39:14
Speaker 2: when the man who implemented those record six lockdowns, former
39:18
Speaker 2: Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews, was appointed on Friday as chair
39:22
Speaker 2: of a prominent youth mental health service. She's not the
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Speaker 2: only one. Thousands of people have now signed a petition
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Speaker 2: calling for Don Andrews to be removed from this role.
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Speaker 2: The wonderful Anne Sherman, the brave Anne Shiman joins me
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Speaker 2: now and thank you for your time. I mean, you
39:39
Speaker 2: have no doubt, don't you. The Victoria's harsh lockdowns made
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Speaker 2: life very tough for Louis and a lot of other
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Speaker 2: young people like him, don't you.
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Speaker 9: Absolutely it was the push factor for him, and I
39:52
Speaker 9: find it and for many others because I still talk
39:54
Speaker 9: to them. And I find it very ironic that the
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Speaker 9: Origin website says that for the welfare of our young people,
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Speaker 9: they need connection, they need social contact, and they need
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Speaker 9: physical exercise, and then they instate the ex premier who
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Speaker 9: instilled the worst lockdowns in the country. It's a slap
40:15
Speaker 9: in the face for sure.
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Speaker 2: So what was your reaction when you heard that news
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Speaker 2: on Friday afternoon that you'd take on this really significant role.
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Speaker 2: I think he gets paid something like seventy thousand dollars off,
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Speaker 2: although money won't me much of an object for him
40:29
Speaker 2: right now. But what was your reaction when you heard
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Speaker 2: the news.
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Speaker 9: I was shocked by froze. I was interstate working and
40:38
Speaker 9: walked around numb for a little while, and then then
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Speaker 9: I got really angry, and that's when I sat down
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Speaker 9: and penned the petition and thought that I need to
40:50
Speaker 9: have a voice for people who can't. And it just
40:55
Speaker 9: doesn't sit right with me that the very premiere that
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Speaker 9: locked us down is now gas lighting us and taking
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Speaker 9: this position.
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Speaker 2: One of the things I think people will have forgotten was,
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Speaker 2: and I remember this vividly, of course, because we're friends,
41:09
Speaker 2: that after Louis died, you had to wait about a
41:13
Speaker 2: month and get special permission to hold a funeral with
41:18
Speaker 2: more than just two or three people.
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Speaker 9: That's correct. So we made the decision as a family
41:23
Speaker 9: to delay, and that was heart wrenching. But we also
41:27
Speaker 9: knew that it had affected the youth so extensively because
41:34
Speaker 9: it was the ground zero of the first lockdown and
41:39
Speaker 9: nobody knew what was coming, and it was quite a
41:43
Speaker 9: terrifying time for them all. So we delayed so that
41:46
Speaker 9: they got some level of closure. And I think the
41:50
Speaker 9: most heartbreaking thing I had to do was choose twenty
41:53
Speaker 9: friends of what was over a thousand people who watched
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Speaker 9: the funeral and everything that comes with that and the
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Speaker 9: knock on effects and part of a grief club. And
42:05
Speaker 9: whilst we all vow to only talk about our own
42:08
Speaker 9: lived experience, I need to acknowledge that. I mean, there's
42:12
Speaker 9: nine of us now and we're all suffering the ramifications,
42:16
Speaker 9: as are a lot of Victorians. I'm very privileged to
42:19
Speaker 9: have this platform with you, so I want to acknowledge
42:21
Speaker 9: all of those people who have suffered at the hands
42:23
Speaker 9: of Daniel Andrews and his lockdowns and have this existential
42:28
Speaker 9: shattering as we do.
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Speaker 2: Pat McGrory here's the head, the CEO of Origin. He
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Speaker 2: was on radio this morning trying to hose down the
42:35
Speaker 2: backlash from the appointment. He admitted the pandemic exacerbated youth
42:41
Speaker 2: mental health services. He says, oh, suicide rates actually went down.
42:44
Speaker 2: Now there's a whole story behind that, but we know
42:48
Speaker 2: suicides actually still the leading death cause of death for
42:52
Speaker 2: Australian's age between fifteen and twenty four. That's an indictment itself.
42:56
Speaker 2: But Origin put out a press release just last month
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Speaker 2: and it says, and I quote, there's an alarming increase
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Speaker 2: in the suicide rates amongst young Victorians urgent action.
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Speaker 3: He says, ses origid energy is needed. The release says that.
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Speaker 2: Death by suicide for young people in Victoria is up
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Speaker 2: a shocking forty eight percent on this time last year.
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Speaker 2: This is official data from the Coroner's Court. So while
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Speaker 2: he says we didn't have as many suicides as we
43:24
Speaker 2: perhaps thought in the depths of the pandemic, we hit
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Speaker 2: our kids hard, we damage their mental health and now
43:30
Speaker 2: we're really seeing the consequences. And you know, ten days ago,
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Speaker 2: when Louis would have turned twenty one, you couldn't have
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Speaker 2: a party for him, so you held a fundraiser with
43:39
Speaker 2: his mates. You raised twenty five thousand dollars for youth
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Speaker 2: mental health services. But then you tell me that they're
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Speaker 2: cutting mental health services in Victoria.
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Speaker 9: It's interesting. It was mental health week before the weekend
43:54
Speaker 9: last that we had the fundraiser and there was a
43:58
Speaker 9: state men cut to regional mental health services, which we
44:06
Speaker 9: talked about on that night and made it all the
44:09
Speaker 9: more easier to raise money for our local youth. Patrick
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Speaker 9: mcgury may have glossed over that this morning. I did
44:18
Speaker 9: listen to the interview, but the Australian Institute of Health
44:21
Speaker 9: and Welfare. Statistics say that the statistics lag in relation
44:25
Speaker 9: to the reporting of suicide, and then it's about the
44:27
Speaker 9: data collection and the methodology. So it's the date of report,
44:31
Speaker 9: not the actual date of death. And I'm sounding very clinical,
44:35
Speaker 9: but the lawyer in me and I know you always
44:38
Speaker 9: tell me to always say the devil's in the detail.
44:43
Speaker 9: You can formulate an argument to be in favor of
44:49
Speaker 9: your platform with any way that you pitched statistics. But
44:55
Speaker 9: they're a leading institution and even professors from his own
44:58
Speaker 9: origin have on the gold coaster at the Forum. They
45:05
Speaker 9: have the International Association of Suicide Prevention. There were many
45:08
Speaker 9: of them in twenty twenty one, and they talk in
45:12
Speaker 9: podcasts and they say that the pandemic had an effect
45:15
Speaker 9: on our youth. So you can't deny it. You might
45:17
Speaker 9: be able to dress it up because there is an
45:20
Speaker 9: agenda behind whilst they want why they want to have.
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Speaker 3: It's all about Andrews.
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Speaker 2: We'll leave it here, but it's all about reputation repair
45:30
Speaker 2: for Daniel Andrews. It's about him first and almost. You're
45:34
Speaker 2: a wonderful, brave woman. I love you dearly. Thank you
45:36
Speaker 2: for coming on the show tonight.
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Speaker 9: Thank you for the opportunity. Thanks for having me credible.
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Speaker 2: Please support Andrew's petition, head to change dot org or
45:43
Speaker 2: scan the coach you can see on the screen now,
45:45
Speaker 2: and of course if you know someone who is struggling,
45:47
Speaker 2: contact Lifeline. On thirteen eleven fourteen.
45:51
Speaker 3: Quick break.
45:52
Speaker 2: After the break, we'll get into the Queensland election.
45:53
Speaker 3: We'll get into this.
45:54
Speaker 2: It's a cannabis provision by stealth decriminalization. And are we
45:59
Speaker 2: going to millions to host the next big UN climate summit?
46:03
Speaker 2: Well that's the rumor. After the break, all right, let's
46:09
Speaker 2: just bring straight into the studio mypanel LMP, MP Keith Pitt,
46:14
Speaker 2: when they should chief of staff and a candidate. We're
46:16
Speaker 2: running down to the wire on Saturday in Queensland. James Ashby, Well,
46:20
Speaker 2: one of these news today, Chris Bowen's ramping up more
46:23
Speaker 2: of your money being thrown at renewables. This is to
46:26
Speaker 2: get to their target of eighty two percent by twenty thirty.
46:29
Speaker 2: It's languishing. We're told the next capacity Investment Scheme auction
46:34
Speaker 2: will be increased by two thirds.
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Speaker 3: Keith Pitt.
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Speaker 2: What's more, they want us to host and it'll cost
46:41
Speaker 2: us many, many millions. One of those un COP thirty one.
46:45
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a Climate conferences in twenty twenty six,
46:48
Speaker 2: and we're told Australia looks light. We're in the box seat.
46:54
Speaker 13: Peter of Chris Brown makes in a minute winds solar
46:56
Speaker 13: and ey cheaper. It'll break the treasury.
46:58
Speaker 3: It's just resk.
46:59
Speaker 13: It's over billion dollars now and now they need tens
47:02
Speaker 13: of billions of dollars more in subsidies. It just won't work.
47:05
Speaker 13: It doesn't matter how much money you throw at something
47:07
Speaker 13: that's in a midden, you can't make it reliable. And
47:10
Speaker 13: that's for cop.
47:10
Speaker 7: Well.
47:11
Speaker 13: We park all those private charter jets and blades, Peter,
47:13
Speaker 13: and all of those boats that the billionaires come in on.
47:16
Speaker 13: There's just there's nowhere to put them.
47:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, the emissions to get all the way down here
47:19
Speaker 2: to Australia will be very very high. James, what about
47:23
Speaker 2: this doctor and it's on one of those telehealth services,
47:26
Speaker 2: so it's not face to face consultation. He's written something
47:30
Speaker 2: like twelve thousand scripts for medicinal cannabis in less than
47:35
Speaker 2: six months. I mean, this is decriminalization by stealth.
47:41
Speaker 1: Well by all means, look into it. But Peter I
47:43
Speaker 1: must say telehealth, we can never get rid of it.
47:45
Speaker 1: By all means, go and have a look into this
47:47
Speaker 1: doctor's script writing behavior. But you know, when I have
47:50
Speaker 1: a look at the statistics, one hundred and fifty people
47:53
Speaker 1: are admitted to hospital every day due to opioid harm.
47:57
Speaker 1: Three people a day die because of it. And I
48:01
Speaker 1: must admit I am a big supporter of medicinal cannabis,
48:04
Speaker 1: so I certainly don't want to stop people being able
48:06
Speaker 1: to access it. But by all means, have a look
48:08
Speaker 1: into his scriptwriting behavior.
48:10
Speaker 3: What about this.
48:11
Speaker 2: School in Melbourne, MLC standing Methodist Methodist, I'll underscore that
48:16
Speaker 2: Ladies College. The kids are being told that they can't
48:19
Speaker 2: wear across to school, but they can wear ears and
48:23
Speaker 2: tails if they're a furfee, they can wear their rainbow
48:25
Speaker 2: socks on Pride Day.
48:27
Speaker 3: What's going on here?
48:28
Speaker 13: Keith peter By youngest daughters just graduated from high school.
48:34
Speaker 13: All three kids went to Catholic school. And the thing
48:36
Speaker 13: I still remember from more than ten years ago, the principal,
48:39
Speaker 13: when he met the parents said, this is a Catholic school.
48:41
Speaker 13: It'll teach Christian principles and if you think you don't
48:44
Speaker 13: have to abide by that or your student's special and
48:46
Speaker 13: they don't have to do that. Find another school, and
48:49
Speaker 13: that's what should happen here. You're sent to those schools
48:52
Speaker 13: because they are Christian. The idea that you can't have
48:54
Speaker 13: across at a Christian school. I mean, seriously, where does
48:57
Speaker 13: this end?
48:58
Speaker 3: But you can have your rainbow socks.
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Speaker 2: Let's go back to Camera Home Affairs Department Secretary Mike Pozulu.
49:05
Speaker 2: It was stripped of his Order of Australia Medal over
49:08
Speaker 2: the weekend by the Governor General. Now she's been asked
49:11
Speaker 2: to make public the reasoning behind this decision. I do
49:15
Speaker 2: not support it. I work closely with him, was when
49:18
Speaker 2: he was in charge of stopping the boats. Have never
49:20
Speaker 2: met a more professional public servant. The PM says he
49:23
Speaker 2: doesn't support it, Well, then how on earth is it
49:26
Speaker 2: allowed to happen here?
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Speaker 3: James?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. We had very minor dealings with Mike,
49:33
Speaker 1: but he was always a gentleman and very easy to
49:35
Speaker 1: deal with. There is no way a simple mistake that
49:38
Speaker 1: he made should have seen him stripped of that, particularly
49:41
Speaker 1: when we've had game show hosts still not stripped of
49:45
Speaker 1: their awards that have been granted by the Governor General.
49:51
Speaker 1: For bashing women. Atrocious bad choice.
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Speaker 3: All Right, I'll let you go.
49:57
Speaker 2: I know your campaigning hard will what's yours eat as
50:00
Speaker 2: it unfolds? Kepel on Saturday night here from Sky News. Gentlemen,
50:04
Speaker 2: thank you both for your time. All right, that's it
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Speaker 2: for me. See you tomorrow night.
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Speaker 3: I'll be at ARK. I'll have lots of
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Speaker 2: Things to show you up next so James McPherson, sitting
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Speaker 2: in for Andrew Bolt