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TKO/Dana White/Turki/Saudi Takeover? Keith Thurman Scores KO! Nick Ball, Teraji Return & More! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: That's direct TV stream. Okay, so we're gonna obviously talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about what happened over the weekend, right,
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about what happened with the Keith Thurman
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  Speaker 1: fight that just happened not long ago. You could buy
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  Speaker 1: it on pay review or you could have waited for
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  Speaker 1: the PBC rebroadcast. And I did get some messages throughout
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  Speaker 1: the week about that, like on a delayed thing, because
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  Speaker 1: they were talking about how it's going to be delayed,
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  Speaker 1: you know in the US. Delayed for me personally, and
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  Speaker 1: I think just in general is not the biggest deal
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  Speaker 1: because all you have to do is stay off social media.
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  Speaker 1: But that's just me. You know, I can understand anything
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  Speaker 1: delayed nowadays you could be critical of I would have
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  Speaker 1: to say, but oh, I watch boxing delayed all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So I just make sure to stay off the you know,
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  Speaker 1: social media. So if you can't stay off social media,
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  Speaker 1: then yeah, that would be an issue. But if you
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  Speaker 1: wanted just to, I mean, there's other ways to get it.
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  Speaker 1: As me no, so, but yeah, the pay view was available,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I just watched it on the PBC channel,
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm not getting up at four
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  Speaker 1: or five in the morning to watch the fight anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I watch it, you know, whether it's recorded or on
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  Speaker 1: ESPN Plus. We've seen that with any any way fights
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  Speaker 1: or his own or whatever. So we'll talk a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about that, talk about, like I said, the probacks card,
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  Speaker 1: some other items from the UK as well as far
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  Speaker 1: as recap. We'll talk about the week that you know,
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  Speaker 1: started today right for boxing anyway, and goes all the
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  Speaker 1: way through Saturday. Nick Ball makes his return, There is
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  Speaker 1: a couple other fighters to Raji makes his return on
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  Speaker 1: ESPN Plus, so we'll talk all about that. We'll do
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of follow up as well when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to the Turkey and uh, you know t k O,
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  Speaker 1: Dana White and now that we got a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more detailed, we did have a conversation last week about it,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna go too long on it, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that there is a little bit more information. At
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  Speaker 1: the start, it kind of sounded like they're going to
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  Speaker 1: develop their own fighters, which would take a long long time.
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  Speaker 2: Now it sounds like it's it's not that it changed,
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  Speaker 2: but you know that it's it looks like it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a combination of signing fighters.
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  Speaker 1: And then also, you know, yeah, is that all the
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  Speaker 1: act gonna be gone? Is it gonna be tweaked? Are
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  Speaker 1: they just gonna bend the rules because that that was
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  Speaker 1: obviously they'd either have to get rid of the part
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  Speaker 1: that says you can't have a belt and then the
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  Speaker 1: belt itself based off the ring rankings, I assume. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit about it, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: right away people a lot of people were very positive
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  Speaker 1: about it. And then when you see like Turkey saying
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  Speaker 1: he's not going to bid on the Vault Benevetez, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course it makes people feel a certain way. And
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  Speaker 1: when you hear Dana White says at this point in time,
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  Speaker 1: I don't plan on working with other promoters. So is
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  Speaker 1: it just another do they create another side of the street?
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  Speaker 1: Is that a new boulevard? We'll see, We'll see how
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  Speaker 1: all this works. My guess is they're just going to
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  Speaker 1: try to buy out the competition through the fighters and
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  Speaker 1: just wait out either. You know, at times, I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: they could do the Floyd Mayweather thing and just give
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  Speaker 1: him money, give people money to or the fighter themselves
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  Speaker 1: buy out. If they have buyout clauses, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: would needed, that'd be needed to buy out. But that's
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  Speaker 1: my guess is they're just going to try to take
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  Speaker 1: over as much talent as they can. But we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that a little bit more. Yeah, so we'll kind
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  Speaker 1: of discuss a couple other things, of course, some boxing Twitter,
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: a little boxing Twitter segment. The show is not going
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  Speaker 1: to be all that long today, but just just talking
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  Speaker 1: about the Keith Thurman fight. One, it is nice to
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  Speaker 1: have Keith back, no matter if it's just the next
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  Speaker 1: fight that proves that he's just over the hill and
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  Speaker 1: he's been out of the ring too long, it is
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  Speaker 1: nice having him back. You know, Verbally he's very good
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  Speaker 1: on the mic. Obviously he's very good at what he
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  Speaker 1: does in the ring too, of course, but what kind
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  Speaker 1: of run can he make? It's tough to say. It's
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  Speaker 1: just nice that he made it to a fight where
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  Speaker 1: he didn't get hurt and from the sounds of it,
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: as long as Tim Zu passes his test, that they'll
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  Speaker 1: be fighting in July in Australia. So we'll see, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see where that goes. But right away in the fight,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe not right away, but fairly early on, Thurman
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  Speaker 1: landed a big, big right hand and and then late
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  Speaker 1: like a nice uppercut, and then Jarvis kind of in
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  Speaker 1: the middle a little bit, landed a really nice counter
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  Speaker 1: left hook, and he followed up with combinations of short
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  Speaker 1: uppercut to the and body work, and so I thought
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  Speaker 1: that won the round for him. Then the second round,
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  Speaker 1: Jarvis landed more left hooks in some shots, but I
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  Speaker 1: thought Thurman with his jab the clean shots. Overall, he
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  Speaker 1: was more kind of clean shots on the move, more
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  Speaker 1: using angles and whatnot in the lateral movement, but the
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  Speaker 1: rights to the body were starting to have an impact.
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  Speaker 1: And then the third round, a big left hook to
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  Speaker 1: the body, big right hand, and I think it was
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  Speaker 1: a short uppercut that dropped him, and then like a shot.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like left hook. Ultimately I think
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  Speaker 1: he I think he landed a right upper cut in
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  Speaker 1: a left hook that finished the fight for good. But
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  Speaker 1: like I said, it was more about just getting him
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  Speaker 1: back in the ring and being healthy, you know that.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's the way I looked at it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to look too deep into it. I know it
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  Speaker 1: had been you know what, over nine years since he
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  Speaker 1: scored a knockout, so truly one time in the last
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  Speaker 1: nine years or whatever. So yeah, you know, he looked
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  Speaker 1: good now that the level of competition, although being that
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  Speaker 1: he's been out of the ring for so long, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't expect a whole lot, especially if you have plans
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  Speaker 1: to fight Tim Zu. As long as he can get
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  Speaker 1: past Joey Spencer, I didn't. You know, it's really about
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  Speaker 1: just getting a camp, getting to win, taking a little
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  Speaker 1: time off obviously because he's coming back here, hanging with
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  Speaker 1: the family, and then being able to get into another
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  Speaker 1: training camp and have a fight in the summer would
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  Speaker 1: be great for him. As long as he can be healthy, right,
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  Speaker 1: Can he get to that next fight, which I think
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  Speaker 1: they were saying July sixth or something like that. Can
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  Speaker 1: he get to that next fight healthy? I think that
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  Speaker 1: is what you know, That's what we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: find out, and we will find out. So it was
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  Speaker 1: good to have him come back. I guessaid. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna make a huge deal about him. I've always liked
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  Speaker 1: Keith Urman though, so we'll see where this leads. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if he could come back, not get injured and beat
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  Speaker 1: Tim Zu, well yeah, then all of a sudden he'd
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  Speaker 1: be on his third fight. Maybe he'd have a fight
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  Speaker 1: to close out the year. Well yeah, then then my
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  Speaker 1: mind will open up to the fact that hey, maybe
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  Speaker 1: he can make a late run in his career. It's possible,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I just I would like to to
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  Speaker 1: see it happen first, all the way and to get
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  Speaker 1: it's not even see it happen like he can't, Like
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  Speaker 1: there's no way he can beat Tim Zu. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: seeing it happen. As far as health, you know, sure
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  Speaker 1: there's times where, like coming out of COVID he could
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  Speaker 1: have fought on Fox, he decided not to. Sean Porter
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  Speaker 1: got the fight. So there's times where he chose not
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  Speaker 1: to fight. But there's also times where he's been hurt.
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  Speaker 1: So it is what it is anyway. Other you know,
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  Speaker 1: items from the Weekend Pro Box with Cook Guy in
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  Speaker 1: Arnold Cood Guy and and and Joett Gonzalez. It was
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good, pretty good fight, pretty competitive. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that could guy. You know, the early rounds he put
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of bodywork. Gonzalez was landing his jab
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  Speaker 1: left hooks to the head. Both really were attacking the body,
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  Speaker 1: short shots, hooks and even a few uppercuts in there,
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  Speaker 1: and so I thought could guy was doing better in
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  Speaker 1: the early rounds right, so I would have given him
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a lead once we got more
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  Speaker 1: closer to the mid rounds, That's when I thought Joette
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  Speaker 1: was fighting a little better and winning rounds more rounds.
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  Speaker 1: Was it that I think it was the fifth round
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  Speaker 1: where the guy got penalized for holding for clinching, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it was the it was a sixth looking
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  Speaker 1: at my scorecard here where Joette got a cut where
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  Speaker 1: the doctor looked at it, but it wasn't too crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But that sixth round was had a lot of fun
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  Speaker 1: two way stuff in it. In the seventh like Joette
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  Speaker 1: landed a multiple big right hands and followed it up
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  Speaker 1: overall just with better combinations to the body and head.
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  Speaker 1: And in the eighth round, speaking of body and working
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  Speaker 1: the body in the head, I thought the guy was
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  Speaker 1: doing that really well. Ninth round, jab rights to the body,
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  Speaker 1: quick little combinations. It looked like a body shot hurt
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  Speaker 1: guy in that round as well. And then just the
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  Speaker 1: cleaner lands overall in the tenth round, you know, finish
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  Speaker 1: it off for Gonzalez, and it was a split decision.
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  Speaker 1: I did have Joette winning. Like I said, though it
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  Speaker 1: was a competitive fight. It was a very good fight. Actually,
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: I really liked it. It was close though. You know,
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: if you said you had it sixty four for Arnold,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna sit there and complain about that.
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  Speaker 1: Ninety seven ninety three, ninety six, ninety three in ninety
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  Speaker 1: five ninety four was the official cards. So it was close.
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  Speaker 1: It was close. I could see it being five to
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  Speaker 1: five in that point, deduction being the reason you know
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  Speaker 1: that Betty won the fight. It was competitive, it was
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: a good fight. Luis Torres took care of Nicholas Walters,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Siracho and Lopez fought to a draw. You know, you
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: had some other her action on there, but nothing that
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, recap at this at this juncture,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could say, but you know, pro box
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  Speaker 1: at that mid level fight mostly prospected mid level, and
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  Speaker 1: that could be one and the same. I think they've
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  Speaker 1: done a very good job and it's something that will
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  Speaker 1: continue to praise them in that sense for sure. What
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  Speaker 1: else we had a UK fight as well. It was
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  Speaker 1: Lauren Price and Natasha Jones or Jonas Jones. What am
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  Speaker 1: I saying? Jonas? That like Price fought behind her jab
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  Speaker 1: to set up her left hand, whether it was straight
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  Speaker 1: or a left hook, and just overall, I thought she
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  Speaker 1: landed the better all for all bunches throughout the fight.
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  Speaker 1: There were moments of being competitive, but it just you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think some of the angles that she used as well.
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  Speaker 1: It was a clean win, very clean win. And I
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: did like that Dubois Shin fight. That was a very
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  Speaker 1: competitive fight and both you know that that was really good.
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  Speaker 1: I liked it a lot. I thought both of them
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  Speaker 1: had their moments, that's for sure. Shin was bringing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of pressure. She was working the body as the
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  Speaker 1: fight went on. I think she started to find more
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  Speaker 1: success as it went later. Hooks to the body in
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  Speaker 1: head were landing, no doubt. Both were jabbing, you know, decently.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of was a tactical fight at times. Other
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  Speaker 1: times they were kind of getting it in. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that du Bois, the way she was countering off the
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  Speaker 1: pivot was a different maker. Speaking of angles, when we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about Price, I thought I thought some of those
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  Speaker 1: angles and like, like I said, you know, the pivot.
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  Speaker 1: Countering off the pivot was really big, and she was
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  Speaker 1: landing her own hooks to the body and head, and
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  Speaker 1: and she was making her miss. You know, making her
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  Speaker 1: miss is one thing. Countering off the pivot, especially with
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  Speaker 1: those hooks, left hooks and whatnot for me, was a
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  Speaker 1: difference maker. But it was a competitive fight. It was
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  Speaker 1: a very competitive fight. I did have du Bois winning.
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  Speaker 1: She won by uh we checked the scorecard real quick.
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  Speaker 1: It was majority of decision, I know that, but one
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  Speaker 1: judge had it obviously. Like I said, I thought the
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  Speaker 1: bob was getting the better of her early, but shitdn't
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  Speaker 1: really hung around. And then, like I said, later in
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  Speaker 1: the fight had sorry just take a little break for
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  Speaker 1: a sip of water. Had plenty of success. So I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was I thought it was a very entertaining fight.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think it should have been a draw there.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see that anywhere near that, but you know,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: it happens, right. Chloe Watson also lost via split decision.
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  Speaker 1: Francesca Hennessy won as well. So yeah, it was uh,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: pretty good stuff. Like I said, I liked what I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: saw out of Caroline. I really did. I definitely liked
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  Speaker 1: what I saw. As far as this weekend goes, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it already got started. Obviously. We do have
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  Speaker 1: an ESPN Plus card that will be like Thursday morning
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  Speaker 1: in the States anyway, so that you know that that's
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: an interesting card. I think it'll be. I think it'll
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: be like just kind of just full of entertainment. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: think it'll be entertaining fights. It's not like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the fights are like any kind of fifty to
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: fifty fight. Can sure Taraja is a is a pretty
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  Speaker 1: clean favorite. I think, what is it, Siego, I'm pretty
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: sure it's like last I saw, everything was over plus
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: three hundred. Let me double check. It's like three yeah,
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  Speaker 1: plus three, twenty plus three, twenty plus three. Of course
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I'm on proboxingodds dot com, So yeah, you know, there's
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  Speaker 1: not really you know, yeah, I think, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I look at it from a stylistic standpoint. I think
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: some of those would be fun. That Anthony uh a
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: lot Alas Couga or something like that. He's a he's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a pretty clean favorite. But kay, Gucci's a good fighter.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I think it. I think they're you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll be a good card, just entertainment. Hopefully
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: we get a really close fight in there obviously, right
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and then and I think the favorites are gonna win
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: on that card, I don't, you know. And then we
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: have Nick Ball and TJ. Del Henny. That'll be the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: main event that's on the zoom. And you know, he's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: off of that fight last fall, Danny. You know where
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: he faced anyway, and you know it is what it
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: is like, you got beat whatever. Not a big deal there, right,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: He's had some wins lately, but overall, like Conlin, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, I don't know, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: think nick Ball's got this one. And you know, speaking
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in entertainment, you know, I do think And actually, you
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: know what, I forgot to say that Conlin, I actually
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: forgot that that card Conlin. Conlin did actually fight. I
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  Speaker 1: think that was on a was it Friday? He was
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: on a card as well. And Harlem, you bank gotta
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: win over mckennay. Not much to really see when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to that, But you know, I think some fights
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  Speaker 1: will lead to that, Let's put it that way. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: think some fights will lead to that. But going back
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to this, I think, you know, hopefully Ball. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I see him winning pretty cleanly. He's such an aggressive
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: fighter and for such a you know, he is a
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  Speaker 1: shorter guy. Obviously, he does find his way on the
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  Speaker 1: inside a lot, and I like him. I think he's
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a very good fighter. He's a very aggressive, pressure packed
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  Speaker 1: So just just stop that. I mean, TJ does have
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: skills and he and he could you know, he might
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: be able to might be able to slow down Ball
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, or not slow him down, just frustrate him.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: He has gone the distance a fair amount of time,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: so he knows what he's doing in there. But then again,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: like I said, Nick Ball is just a pressure cooker
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  Speaker 1: man and he's gonna bring it. So he's a clear favorite.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I guess it'll just be entertaining how we get there,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: right and then hopefully Nick Ball. You know, he had
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that decision with Vargas, that was a draw after coming
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: out of a nice win over dog bay Ronnie Rios.
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  Speaker 1: He took care of him, Foreman, that was a decision
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: or not foreman, Raymond Ford, I just put that together.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: What the hell Raymond Ford? Though that was a close
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I thought Ford eked it out, but that was a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: close fight. So I don't think you'll have a lot
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of trouble with Donahey Dohenny? I mean Dony. I'm just
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: messing up names all over the place. And then I
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: would say the closest fight on that card is Andrew
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Caine and Charlie Edwards. I think that, you know, has
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a chance to be a very competitive fight in odds wise,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I believe. I'll double check, but I believe that's the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: closest that I see on that card. Let me see here,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Oh you know what that Brad, Yeah, that Balluta. I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: think it's Balluta and Strand, Brad Strand. That's actually a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: very close fight it in the end, it's not gonna
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: mean a whole lot, but that actually will be the closest.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Charlie Edwards is a plus two twenty five underdog,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: so I like canaan that. But you know, I'm looking
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: at that underdog plus two h five plus two twenty five.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Charlie Edwards might be able
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to do it. It's far. I don't know. I got
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Kine to win, but I am kind of eyeball on that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But that should be a good competitive fight. I wouldn't
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: doubt if it was like a majority decision or something
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: like that. In Austin Williams Ammo Williams return as a
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: slight and I'm talking about slight favorite Patrese. His opponent
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: plus one sixty plus one seventy five is the highest.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And I know edgar Berlanga was a little disappointed, and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it was kind of random that he would is uh
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that he was on this undercard. Now they are in Orlando,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and we know, you know, the Puerto Rican fan base,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of Puerto Ricans living in Orlando and in
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: that area. So but he wanted to go to Puerto Rico.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing something about that, and uh, so Amo,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: he should be able to get this done. But his
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: opponent's pretty good man, Patrece. Uh god, I forget how
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: let's say his last name, we will Nie, I can't remember,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: but he's a he's a he's an okay fighter. He's
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I liked what I saw out of him.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: It's just like even at the DeAndre uh DeAndre Warrior
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and uh Steven Butler. You know, he looked good in
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: those fights, but you know, I'm not really high on
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: those guys, you know. Yeh. And then we did fight
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that fell Koe fell Ko fell Clyle. You know, it
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: was a weird fight. Obviously, they were both I think
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: they were both undefeated going into that, and I don't know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I just I just think that'll be like a close fight.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are high on Ammo,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: but that fell co. That was a I mean, we
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: never got to see the rest of the fight, but
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: that was like a fifty to fifty fight at the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: time that it got stopped. So you know, we we
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: we shall see, we shall see. Yeah, this weekend is
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: kind of like there. There are some I think the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: closest fights are fights that people will say, where's this
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: going to lead us? But sometimes sometimes just like that,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you have Ortiz and Yomar on the under card, Alamo,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't really see that being an issue there. Yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but Omari Jones is on the card. But you know, Berlanga,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: like I said, Berlanga is returning. I wonder if he's
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: gonna have a parade if he wins this one. No,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm just messing around because you know, he did
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the victory tour without really doing much against against you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Canelo had a big victory. You think he's still on
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the Victory tour. But this Jonathan Gonzalez Ortiz, you know,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: he just he just really hasn't faced much competition. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna turn around and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: act like before the Canelo fight that Berlanga did. But
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I understood why Berlanga got that fight. You know, he
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: was a good, great B side, perfect B side, and uh,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you know that was clear. That was very clear in that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So I think it's just, you know, get back fight
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: for him in the card. You know, It's just it
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't do a whole lot for me. But the main
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: event could be very competitive, and I do like, like
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I said, I do, I do like animals to win,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to work for it. I do
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: think that. And that Patrice dude, he's pretty good. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: could maybe see him pull on the upset. I'm not
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: saying I got a bet on him, but uh, in
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Jamaine or Chieze, you know, he's a clear figer. He
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: should win. Jalil Hackett is on the card as well
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: against Jose Roman or Jose Basquez, so you also have
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: before the weekends over Callim Walsh is fighting as well.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it is what it is. I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: think that probably the main event, like I said, of
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the designed card from Orlando, and then Charlie Edwards and
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Andrew Kane, those for me are the the ones that
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: kind of stand out, I would have to say. So yeah,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: that about wraps it up as far as the preview,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I think I think we might get one or two upsets.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we do, just just for the fun of it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Right now, if you're a fan of one of those
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: fighters that pulled the upset or not a fan, it
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: is what it is. But overall, you know, hopefully we
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: get Ball gets through this, nick Ball and no offense
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: again TJ. But like Nick balls in a good position
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and he could really get a big fight after this.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: In fact, he was talking about Stephen Fulton in some
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: other fights, so that'd be pretty interesting, all right. So
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about the t KO Turkey
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Dana White a deal kind of knew it was coming
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: by this time, right, new there was something to it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: And you listen to Dana and you listen to Turkey,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and now that we've seen multiple interviews, right whether it
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: was on ESPN multiple times or even I'm not a
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: big fan of him, but Dan Rafiel or whatever, right,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: And as far as like real follow up, I thought
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I actually did think that Raphael had some real follow
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: up at least to get a little bit more detail
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: out of it. But yeah, when it first got announced
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and they were talking about it, he kind of made
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: it sound like he's going to develop his own fighters,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: which obviously if you're a promoter, you're going to write.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: But the more I heard in interviews, like I said,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the Dan one was like then he started getting a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: little bit more details. You know that they have a
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: lot of work to do. They have a lot of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: hiring him and Nick Kahn, they have a lot of
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: hiring to do matchmaking, scouts, that type of stuff. And
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: he just talked about like the infrastructure that has to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: be built, and of course he talked about just having
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the one belt, and you know, he was asked about
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the Ali Act, and that's kind of a couple of
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: things that like Turkey, right, he had he had Frank
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Warren and Eddie working together, which they had never done.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: But I never looked too deep into that, to be honest,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: It's nice, but I never looked too deep into that,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: just because I knew why they were working together and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that was the almighty dollar, and it wasn't a dollar
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: that they had to do a ton of work for.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've done a ton of work to get
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to that point, but I'm talking about, you know, to
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: get their percentages off the top of the fighter. And
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: they're promoting inside of the Arabia a lot of these cards,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: so they didn't have to do a lot of work
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: once they got there, right, And so bringing them together, yeah,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that was great. It is great, but there's really no
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: excuse for them never to work together prior. You know, sometimes,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and I've always said this, you know, fights can be
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: made when they're ready to be made financially. That's usually
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: where we're at. And you saw some of these fights
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: that were no longer probably gonna get made or couldn't
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: get made here based off of politics and financial stuff.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of it was financed like you know better
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: BV and Beval that was just not a fight like
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you can bring in the uh the war stuff and
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: how you know backwards that quote unquote thought or semi
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: ruling was that was really stupid. But you know, the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: odds that they were going to get that fight was
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: just never gonna happen because before you know, it could
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: have happened before the war started, you know, so it
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: was a long time in the making. So my point
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: being that a lot of people I did see a
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people all of a sudden look at Turkey
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: kind of side eye in the sense because it was like,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: wait a second, because he's in there saying, well, we
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: have some little cards coming up, and he's talking about
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the one, the one in Alcatraz and the one in
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the Times Square, and he says, maybe we'll just take
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: those promoters and leave him in the jail, and then
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: he's messing around. But if you hear and he has obligations, right,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: he does have obligations, contractual obligations. Now how long will
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: it go past that? That that's the interesting part because
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Dana White even said that, you know, Turkey is working
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: with the sanctioning belts and he'll probably continue to do
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: that at least for a while, whereas he says, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to do that. He said he didn't want
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: to work with anybody else. So he wants to run
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: it like the UFC almost top to bottom. And does
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: that mean no morale Act and you're gonna flip it
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: to where you're paying the fighters way less. Are you
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: gonna basically, with the Saudi money, are you gonna overpay
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of fighters to get
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: them all under your you know, your watch. I guess
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you could say all under your your umbrella and then
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: go off the ring magazine rankings, because that's what Dana
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: said too, like we're gonna get these guys up, and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna know who's you know, who's the best
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: in the division, and then they're all gonna fight each other.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: So the only way you could do that is extremely
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: skew the rankings for the ring right because they do
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: have a ring belt, right, and even at the Canelo
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: press conference, they even you know, said don't put the WBC.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: He kind of shushed off the the WBC, which I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: don't really give a shit about, you know, that's fine
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with me. But I did notice he had that fatal
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Fury belt in the in the picture belt, so they
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: got a sponsorship belt. Those are fine, I guess, which
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: is you know whatever. But so yeah, I mean, is
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the Ali Act gone now? Is it gonna be tweaked? Clearly,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: if you're a promotional outfit and you have a belt
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: that would be against it. Could you tweak certain things
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: about it? Could you rewrite it? Uh? Clearly he's you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Dana is tight with Trump and every you know people
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: that could get it changed. So we'll see there. Like
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I said, are you gonna overpay, you know, offer so
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: much money that people, a lot of the top fighters
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: are gonna you know, be under your umbrella? And then
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And it's kind of interesting
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: because you know, T k O, Dana White, they don't
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: have an investment in this now. I'm not saying they're
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: not gonna have They're they're they're gonna have to invest
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: in this sene of like their own infrastructure and all that. Probably,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: but like as of right now, the sadis are the
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: ones flipping the bill. So you know, it's a lot
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: easier if you have a large amount of money and
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you're not putting any of the money up right, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you're getting a fee, like they said a ten million
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: dollar fee or something like that. You're getting a fee
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: to just be a promoter. So and and in that
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Raphael interview, he did talk about how we got a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: lot of things to do. He got a lot of infrastructure,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of talent scouts and matchmaking,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: like I said, but he said, you know, we got
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty people that we want to hire.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And he said the fighters, you know, like he talked
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: about signing a of fighters, right and you know, if
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: they're not having to put up the money, you know,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: and it's just about their corporate sponsors. There the behemoth
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: that is behind t KO and that's where he feels like,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: you know, they can really move this thing forward. And
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: he talks about how he's got to rebuild the sport.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Obviously the rebuild part would be the sanctioning belts. He
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: said he didn't want to do any business with them,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and ultimately even lou de Bella's UH interview lately with
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: their UH with Aria like that's Aria are I'm all
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: off today? I did not get a good night sleep.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I think I'm just kind of messed up. Anyway. He
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: even said that, you know, like he thinks that about
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: two to three years they can have a firm grip
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: on it. But he said, you know a lot of
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: people like Eddie Herd and saying that you know these guys,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: you know, the belts, and it means a lot to them,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: and of course they do, of course they do. It's
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a lot easier as a fan just to sit back
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and say stuff about the sanctioning belts when that does
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: those belts do help you. They can hurt you, but
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: they do help you, especially just your average fighter. That
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: helps you tremendously because then at least there's some worth,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: there's a little bit of leverage at times. YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: But he also said money, So you want to take
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: this money or you want to drop the belt and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: take this money. You just want to hold on your
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: belt and knock. And if they sign enough fighters then
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: there's not going to be as much fight. So, like
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I said, it kind of sounds like another side of
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the street or a brand new boulevard. But if you
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: get enough. And this is where the similarities are with Hayman,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: he was using multiple promoters in this to make it legal,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: of course, and he's not a promoter. He was an
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: advisor obviously, and a manager. He has a managing license,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: so he was getting less than most promoters would off
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: of it. But he did have upwards of one hundred
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: and fifty to two hundred fighters, and that's why in
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: any given division, he could just do in house fights
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and a lot of them worked, doubt and so all
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Honky Dorian and you know, and like I said, the
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: media was freaking out when he was doing it about
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: even talking about a PBC belt. Whether they were really
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: going to do that or not. I don't. I mean,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: we don't have a factual thing there. But a lot
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: of the media did make a big stink about how
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the PBC originally didn't have the fighters getting belted, right,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and they said, oh, they're taking away their dream because
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: they you know. And also, like I said, they were
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: freaking out with some of the uh what was deemed overpaying.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Then it disrupted the market. Well this what de Zone did.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: And then now with with a Sadi's this is way
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: beyond you know, messing with the market a little bit.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So it all matters how they go about it, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: if Dana and White doesn't, if they don't, if TKO
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to put up the money, and it is
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: kind of just like a boxing league, if they don't
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: have to put up the money. And then he's talking
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: about the top five, top ten rankings, they're all going
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to fight each other, Well, that would mean you'd have
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to you'd have to have contracts with them. And he
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: talked about how now he you know, he had like
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: thirteen or sixteen to begin with with the UFC bought
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: it and then and now he has over a thousand contracts,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: which I didn't really that much. So that's my guess
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: that they're just gonna throw money at it. And you
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: wonder about the young fighters though, Like the young fighters
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: as they come up, where is the pag gonna start
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: to be way different? If you're paying someone who only
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: has thirteen fights and they don't get a big fight
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: for like six to eight fights, let's say, and they're
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: developing clearly, just like right now, they're not making a
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: ton of money compared to at a high level. But
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: are they gonna con is it just about getting fighters
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: under your umbrella and overpaying them? And then with the
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: people that are kind of entering their primer prospects now,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: is that when they'll start to flip the script. We've
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: heard the eighty twenty thing. It's kind of a vague reference,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: but in boxing eighty two eighty percent, and that's not
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: all I've heard that a lot. That's not the case
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: when it comes to it's not the one case, right
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: of every event is that. But when you're talking about
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a pay per view event and a bigger event like that,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: you know, eighty percent of it goes to the fighters, right,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: so that they the promoters, and you know, they get
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: less as far as the whole event. Now, they get
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: money out of the you know, the fighters purse, but
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: and then you have management all that stuff. So so
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm wondering, and then the UFC, you could
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: flip it on the twenty eighty where the UFC gets
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: eighty percent and the fighters get twenty. Now, that might
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: start to straight out more as we you know, with
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit and all that stuff. But and we know
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the UFC is not under that ALI Act. So if ultimately,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: like there's no way that what he did with the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: UFC in building the brand to the level he has,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I'm very doubtful he'd be able to do that with
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: boxing unless the pay is different. And the thing is,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: though he's not paying him, it's not coming out of
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: their pocket, so it may have a different mentality there.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: But as far as like turning it into a juggernaut
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: company that's actually making revenue at a high level, you
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: know that that's where that's where the what if. And
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I'm very open minded when it comes to this. I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: see a fair amount of negatives potentially, I also see
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: a fair amount of positives. You know, I do see
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: some of the po positivity, though maybe some others don't
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: allow themselves to do that. It's not all positive, and
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: it's definitely not all negative, but I'm not gonna you know,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: there are some things where you look like they're even
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: having a little star issue right now, or a major
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: star issue, I would say. And he has in a sense,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: in a sense fooled some of his fans. But then again,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: they get the fights at a higher pace than we
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: do as far as boxing fans, right, But the come
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: off the couch stuff when someone gets hurt, you know,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Like we just saw that with Baccoli. You know, he
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: had no real business. It sounded good at the start,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: but he had really no business being in that ring.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: It's kind of worthless, actually not worthless to him, but
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and hey, that's his prerogative. He took it. There's no
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not ribbing in. I'm just saying, like there's some
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: fights where they'll instead of postponing the event, they'll put
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: some shit together and you're like, really, dude, So and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: their pay per views, it's tough because each pay per
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: view just to have it only on ESPN plus ESPN
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: part of the deal was paying them a certain amount
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: of money no matter what. So all of a sudden,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the pay per view number wasn't as important as it
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: had been. Now we'll see moving forward because ESPN plus
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: ESPN wanted to build the plus right, so that was
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: when they and they still obviously want to increase it,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: but it was at a different time frame. So would
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: a new deal be like that? Will the UFC even
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: be with ESPN? Is you know? And that's what he
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: talks about, a deal that he's going to work with
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: these networks and kind of work around their program. And
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: if he were to get a deal with the ESPN
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: or if he were to it's kind of like like
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: when he says he doesn't want to work with anybody,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: is that, well, you know, these fighters have managers, so
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have to work with someone, just maybe not promoters.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: So would he be able to promote, for instance, the
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: PBC and use that Amazon thing. You know, he's not
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: a promoter. He has other promoters that you know that
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: promote for him, But so that's where I'm wondering. And
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: then if you're gonna get over one hundred, one hundred
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and fifty fighters, let's say, you know, I don't know
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting, but I do think that
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: they will be able to buy out a lot of people,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: and you know, I guess like monopoly wise and like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: literally buying out all the promoters. You know, maybe that's
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: not even gonna be legal. I'll be honest, I don't know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: but I've always said, if someone's gonna actually change it
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: and ultimately make it better than it was at the time,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: at the current time, it would have to be like
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: just getting everyone together. And maybe you know, that part's
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen, And so he'll just get the fighters
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and some of the management. He'll get along with some
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: of them, won't. He generally has said good things about
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: al Hayman in the past. He didn't mention his name
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: in the interviews I heard, anyway, he mentioned Eddie Hearn.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: He said that he has a good relationship Eddie doesn't
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: like Oscar obviously or Bob Aaron. So we'll see. We'll see.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Boxing in many ways is a mess and has been
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: a mess. But you know, we've also had a string
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: even before you know, Turkey got involved of a lot
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: of unifications undisputed. So the whole thing of like when
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Dana White says no one's invested in the sport besides him,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: like Sadi, like Turkey, that's just bullshit. Obviously, in the
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: last ten years we saw a lot of investment. Now
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: in the end, did it grab what we you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: did it produce enough to where now it's sustainable? That's
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: the question at hand. And I'll say this Turkey wise,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I'd much rather have his fights that he's buying be
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: on a platform that's bigger. And maybe that is the ESPN.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe they just literally fill in we're top ranks,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: you know, top cards. I don't know, he said, depending
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: on how many slots they have for us per year,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: that'll be, That'll depend on how many you know, then
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: we can see how many fighters, well it won't need
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: and that type of thing. So and he talked about
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: stacking the cards and and that is something that you know,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I think has gotten a little better, I'll say, but
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: for the ones that have to create some sort of revenue,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: it is tough to stack the cards, but it will
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: be much It's a lot less difficult to stack the
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: cards with Turkey because he's just paying. He's just paying
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: so well that he ends up getting you know. So
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: he has had some really great cards, and obviously that
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: the twenty second one, the recent one. Like I've said,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna be able to beat that.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I hope so, but I you don't even need to
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: beat it, you know, even if you could match it
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: or come close to it a bunch of times, that
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: would be phenomenal. So it's it's kind of a mixed bad.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not so worried about what Dana White said over
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the years about boxing, because to be fair, you know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: he's actually used the some of the older blueprint for boxing. Yeah,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: he just could get away with it because they could
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: just have one belt and buy out the competition for
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the most part. There's other MMA stuff. Some are doing okay,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: some are doing pretty good. But you know, they're the
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: they're the hugest company. So we'll see, you know, we'll see,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: we'll see if it can be profitable. Because ultimately, in
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the from twenty twenty five to rehod twenty thirty, right
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: in that timeframe, in the five years, can he make
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: it profitable. And the only way he can make it
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: profitable is if he got all those fighters and then
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: reduce the pay because the current or even close to
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the current pay rate that he's paying, it's just not
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: going to be profitble. But I but I do I
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: get the sense that, you know, Turkey did realize that
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: his own is not the platform in America. It's just not.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: And there's rumors about, you know, TKO might promote the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Canelo Crawford because that's what he said, that that that
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you know, our first the first one is going to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: be in September. Well, you know, that'd be a big splash.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Now there's also rumors that might go to Netflix, you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: and so that would make sense why Turkey offered four fights.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't in his words anyway, that he didn't
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: actually match the per like the same thing Canelo was
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: going to get for a one off against Jake Paul.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: But overall, you know, if it's a if it's a
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: four fight deal, then all of a sudden, you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: it makes a lot more sense. But yeah, if they
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: were to put that on a bigger platform, that would
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: be you couldn't deny it if they got that thing
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: on Netflix or Amazon or ESPN. And you know, even
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: it I mean, I think it's still you know, I
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: just assumed that it was going to be on pay
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: per view, but even a twenty five dollars pay per
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: view is better. But like I said, ultimately, when they
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: talk about building it from the ground up and making
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: it a profitable business and a juggernaut, the pay would
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: have to come down. Then. You know, it's but I
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: could see him having success Saint a White in the
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: somewhat short to midterm though. It's just a matter of
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: what they do with that pay after. My guess is
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: they'd get like I said, they get all the fire
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: or both of the fighters, and then the new fighters
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: coming up. You know, are they gonna have to overpay?
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: You know, are they gonna have to overpay for them?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: But ultimately it's not going to be it's not going
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: to be that much. And then they don't go up
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to those crazy ten million, thirty forty fifty, you know
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: what I mean, because the some of the amount he's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: put out there, they're definitely not gaining that revenue. So
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: we'll see. I like to see how it plays out.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: But like I said, when when Turkey says, when Dana says,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna work with anybody, okay, well then you
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: better have all the fighters or most of them, right.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: And then when Turkey comes out and said, you know
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna put a bid for the Vaul Benavitez,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: well does that and then he made it sound like
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Beval knows where his money is. You know, he knows
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: who took care of him. So does that mean he
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: wants to do the trilogy instead? I can understand that
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't do the trilogy though obviously as long
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: as it better be it wants it. If he doesn't
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: do it and then he didn't been on BiVO Benefitez,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: that'd be fucked up. So a lot of this stuff
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: has to play out. But yeah, I think, you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't doubt if they start by bending the Ali
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Act or just full on breaking it, I don't know.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: So it's a good deal for TKO if they don't
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: have to put up any money at all, you know,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: but they're actually the promoter, and we'll see the pushback,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: you know, we can already see the pushback from the
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: general media, the media members the full time media members.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: They're not pushing that crazy back like they did with PBC.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: We obviously know why. But yeah, so that on that topic,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: that's about it. Shouts out to Keith Thurman, like I said,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: it was nice to see him back in the ring.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Hopefully you know you can keep doing his thing. Ah
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: here's boss boxing esquire right, he said, not for nothing.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm hearing rumblings that t k O is basically
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: putting the Probellum crew back together to manage their boxing outfit.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I wonder if the new boxing league will be based
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: in du Bois Dubai. So Samson Boxing Cope besign a
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: co promotional deal with Eastach Lucero undefeated superman walterweight junior walter. However,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: you must say it so that that's that there's something
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: to be said about his boxing, that's for sure. So
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: someone someone said first ko in like ten years for Keith.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Wonder if dude really that ass or did he take
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a dive? Well, honestly, like, have you ever seen this
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: guy fight? Have you ever just box wrecked his ass?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: You kind of know right there. Yeah, So, anyway, I
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: did see this from brunch Boxing. Shots out to Matt
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: and the Crew Ezra, the Mexican Al Hayman as well.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: For those who know know he was talking about a
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: programming note when it comes to that card from Japan.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: So the triple header, which, like I said, they're triple headers,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: and quadruple headers tend to be very entertaining regardless if
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: it's one or whatever. Tomorrow's huge Championship triple header from
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Japan will now start at five a m. Eastern on
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: ESPN Plus. So there, so there's that, okay. Oh. Also,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Mauricio Laura was as a two year ban from ukat
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: for testing positive for a substance. The band will run
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: through March six, twenty twenty six. Fred Garvin only fighters,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Only fighters. The UK bands are foreigners. If you're from
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: the UK, you'll just drag it out for years and
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: they'll just give up. Yeah. I saw a bunch of
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: comments like that. That is kind of funny. Thing is
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: once you put like the lawsuit thread on them, they
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: don't have a big budget, so I know that does
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: limit it, you know. Augustine Warres says Thurman. Thurman needs
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: one more fight before tim Zoo. His legs look stiff.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: He needs to be in the ring more. Great matchmaking
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: for his comeback. Yeah, I think ultimately he's right. I
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: don't think that's going to be the case. And some
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: of it is just, you know, the risk of having
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: another fight, having another camp and getting hurt, you know,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I honestly think that plays into it. But to your point,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: that makes sense, do do do do? What else? We got?
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the Ucata paperwork, it kind of made it
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: sound like they were under unaware that he had fought
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: after that, so that was kind of weird.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I did notice that as well. Let's see here, h oh,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Caesar Tapio or Tapia Lettel Tapia. He did have a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: nice little little knockout there, knock dude down with a big,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: big punch, and yeah, it's fun. Like I mentioned, July
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: sixth is something that they're lining up for Keith Urmanton
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and Timsue on the main event on the Gold Coast there.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: So obviously, like I said, Timsu has to past the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: his test. Joey Spencer and I believe they're from from
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: what I heard that they're gonna do this. They're gonna
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: do the same thing to where it will be available,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: maybe it'll be available live. I'm not sure. There was
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: some talk about well, we heard Virtual Artise talk about
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: because we heard we heard that he may need he
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: might need a search. Potentially, he said he's supposed to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: take because they were talking about fights that whether it's
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: actually being negotiated or not, or offers are out right.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: He basically said, I am supposed to take a fight
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: with an injured hand and the healing laceration of my eyebrows.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: He said, I bet if I had taken the fight
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: knowing I had these injuries, and if I had gotten
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: worship training camp, I'd have to cancel it. So so
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: he right now, he may not even I don't know.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: He may not be able to fight for quicker like
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: a quick turnaround or not even a quick turnaround, but
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: just in general, he may not be able to He
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: may not be able to do it. Top rank by
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: the way, signed and manual Chance abandon weight eighteen year
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: old prospect. And I that Wasserman Boxing that you bank
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: junior card or not you bank Harlem, you bank two
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: point three four million. I saw that from Wasserman Boxing
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: and Conlin was on that card too. Yeah, there was,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: like I said, there was a little back and forth
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: on you know, main events and Bakrahm got into it.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: They were talking about, oh, there's you know, there's there's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: news going out there, there's fights going on. You know.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of people talking about it that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: there's discussions. But then Virgil's dad was like, that's bullshit.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: That's news to me, and I'm his dad, and Virginal
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Archief Senior goes on to say, please tell me what
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: all the terms he agreed on and that type of thing,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: and basically maybe it was you know, this is what
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: made events said, well, the fight was offered to Bakram
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: and he accepted and agreed to all terms balls in
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: your court. So whether that you know, I don't know.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I really don't know. Some offer,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: it sounds like offers was out there. It also sound
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: made it sound like they both made offers. There was
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: also speaking of There was also.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Talks about about Benevid's Benevid Benevidez and Bivil that they
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: have both offered each other to fight, and per his
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: Vaal's manager, we are not close to finalizing Benavidez.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: We are not close to finalizing anything at this point.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: We are two weeks away from fighting four big fights
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: in a year's time and right now we are just
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: closed store, kids and relatives. Samson, you know, both sides
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: have made offers to the other, but they're not close
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: to finalizing. So it sounds like there's something going on.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: But we'll see when it comes to Benavitez in Beval,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: but that would be awesome. I don't know if the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: trilogy is going to happen or not, but it does
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: sound like the virginal artist side of it when it
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: comes to Turkey that you know, maybe the money is
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: not exactly they're just yet. I don't know. In Virtual Artists,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Junior you know said, well, you know, maybe the story's right,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: but when it comes to my side of it regarding me,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: you know, that's bullshit. So I don't know. So what,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: we'll see how that all works out. By the way,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: lower Price did say she wants to fight two times
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: more in twenty twenty five, so we'll see. Like, oh,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: in the in the weight classes, I forgot to mention
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: that the weight classes, he wants to go back to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the original weight classes. Dana White, I like the idea.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't I would I wouldn't go back to just
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: the original, but I would trim some like cruiserweight I
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: think should be there from light heavyweight to heavyweight. I
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: do think sixty eight and fifty four, I'm okay with those.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Once you start getting below forty, that's where I think
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: you can start to to tweak. Forty to forty seven
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with. But yeah, once you maybe once you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: get past lightweight and down, I think that's where the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: tweaks can be made. I just think how big that
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: heavyweights are, you know, going from one seventy five to heavyweight.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I think cruiserweight should be there. And I gotta admit
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: I also wrestled too, so I when some people say, oh,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: what's six pounds or whatever, it's like, yeah, I hear that.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: But when I'm wrestling and you see all the wrestlers
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: one by one wrestle, you can see the difference in
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: each weight class. So now that's more. That's a little
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm kind of in between. I wouldn't
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: go back to just eight, but seventeen is way way
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: too much. I will say that, so you know that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. We'll see a little boxing Twitter.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Fred Garvin says, hey, Paramount lost over two hundred million
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: this quarter, so you could see all boxing was a
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: big problem over there, and Steven w said, but you know,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Al Hayman, that's it's kind of funny. Oh here's some
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: good news. I saw this on probox TV, the little
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: clip of it that from the sounds of it, at
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: least the working however, they're contractual or not Lamont Roach's
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: promoter or at least some sort of paperwork. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: totally sure, but they said it's basically a done deal
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  Speaker 1: and it's not that far off the rematch, So that
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  Speaker 1: is something that we definitely I'm really happy that's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely happy. There has been some discussions on the better
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: be a bivil pay per view stuff. There was a
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  Speaker 1: report of forty five thousand byes. I've seen reports of
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  Speaker 1: seventy five thousand byes. I'd assume it's one hundred and down.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the exact numbers. There was what I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: do know for a fact, though, a report that's bullshit
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  Speaker 1: that says the pay per view generated between thirty five
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  Speaker 1: million and forty million in revenue by selling five hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty thousand buys worldwide. Right, so thirty five or
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: forty million on five hundred and twenty thousand buys worldwide. Now,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna they charged twenty five dollars for it, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So what countries did they charge above that? You know?
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  Speaker 1: And then how many buys did they get there? Because
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: if you did the math, five hundred and twenty thousand
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  Speaker 1: times twenty five, that's thirteen million in profit. So if
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: you do what a pay per view is here, seventy
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: five bucks, and you do five, that's thirty nine million.
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  Speaker 1: So the difference of thirteen million and thirty nine million,
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  Speaker 1: clearly you don't have thirty five to forty because you'd
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  Speaker 1: have to charge everyone across the world seventy five dollars,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: which that didn't happen, So that's clearly a bullshit one.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I did see Keisha as someone say, Oh the spit
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Bucket podcast said there are only two lightweight champs left
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  Speaker 1: who have defeated every man put in front of them
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  Speaker 1: as a professional boxer. They said, Keisha on Davis and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Schur said, we can make that fight two hundred millipiece. Like,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: come on, dude, I know he's probably just bullshitting, but
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: come on, dude, that sounds like some silly shit. Obviously
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: that sounds like really really silly shit. Oh there was
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: also this uh super bad low blow. I saw the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: clip on Brunch Boxing on Twitter. I saw the clip
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: of it and they were talking about Albert. I forgot
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: how to say his man backward got Gazaiev but but
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: that we're good. I don't know anyway, he punched this cruiser,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: this Romero when he was down. I mean it was blatant.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: It was blatant. I forgot to mention that. Oh. Also
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: a little follow up from the Boxing Voice when I
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: talked about Rya Venezuela. There is some new information there.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Whether it's one hund factor or not, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But Robert Garcia, his trainer, came out and said that
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  Speaker 1: Rya was forced to fight Russell and no other options
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  Speaker 1: were presented, So that would prove Ness's point, right. That's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: what the message was to me. And I did see
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  Speaker 1: the clip too. I saw the clip of Robert Garcia
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  Speaker 1: saying that does he mean at one forty? So only
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: one was offered at one fort at the belt, you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: know where he had the belt, because we know that
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: he was offered tank. It just wasn't gonna be at
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: one forty. But and we've heard that al gives you,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: especially when you're in that position, gives you more than
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: one option. Well, he gave him more than one option.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Now you could make the argument, if this is true,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: that they could only fight Russell no other options. Yeah,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: that is messed up. I'll say that. However, he was
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: offered Tank Davis. So once you turned down the money man? Yeah?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: May you know have other people turned not fought the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: money man? What were their options after that? I don't
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  Speaker 1: That's what I don't know. I think the context is
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: you mean at one forty, because they even said that,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: well they're the champ, they shouldn't have to go back
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  Speaker 1: to thirty five. But it's not like they're huge onunders
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, Balnezuela could fight at
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: one thirty five again, So on one hand, sure, if
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: you only gave him Russell and that's it, like on
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: that card, that's another thing. Was it just on that
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: card that there was no otherwise he'd get taken off
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: the card and put someplace else? Is that what he
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: means to I do need that context. But when you're
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: offered Gervante and you didn't fight him, you know there's something.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: There's something there. Oh, Turkey said, I heard Bob Aaron
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: once say the desert is uh, you know, has a
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: bunch of bleached bones. Of those who think they can
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: change boxing, he says, I'm from the middle of the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: hottest desert in the world. It makes our skin thick.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: We can handle it. The one thing I'll say is
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have thick skin, that's for sure. Yeah, didn't
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: have thick skin. By the way, that Albert dude did
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: win the fight against Cruz one sixteen. I did actually
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: forget too. I did forget to mention that Jake Donovan
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: on Twitter after they were talking about After Turkey was saying,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: you know he's not he's not going to bid on
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: benevete'z Beval, Jake said that if I'm benevit decide, I'm
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: asking WBC to immediately send this purse bid. This statement
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: all but eliminates most of the competition right out of
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: the gate. Yeah, that's a good point. And that's another thing,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: you know, Eddie and others. Actually I should say said, well,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: it sounds like there's some talk between them, maybe, but
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  Speaker 1: also like that, I think it's the IBF is first
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: in line, So you know, I don't know, Like that's
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying about the IBF. So they're first in line. Well,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: we know who the better you know, fighter is or
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: the better fight. That's clear as day. So that's the
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: thing about the IBF. Yes, they get to their mandos,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: you know, more urgently, I guess you could say. But
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: that's why I don't bend over back where it's like
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: many people do to give them a big praise over it,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: because look at their rankings a lot of the times.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: And until the IBF starts ranking champans, then I'll give
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: them some serious credit. Then then I will, then I will.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, we'll see. This is
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: from Twitter. I can't tell the account. I don't know.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: It's it's chopped off. Someone sent me this. Uh, bivil
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: Benevite is the fight that we all want to see.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: It's the best fight and the best So if somebody
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: comes out claiming to want to fix boxing and that's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: not the fight they're interested, and it really begs the
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: question what fights do they want for bivol? Well, like
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: I said, if it's the trilogy, cool, If not, whatever,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: this Anthony Munez says, So in other words, Benavite is
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: ducking off of that on Twitter. That was so weird,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: So so weird. Do do do? I think? Yeah, I
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just hope it doesn't turn into an
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: other side of the street, you know, because we already
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: had that issue. But if you are on your own
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: side of the street, you better make the best fights.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: And that's something that I stress just because of the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: climate we were in at that time. So yeah, well
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: we'll we'll see how this all turns out. Like I said,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: I don't I like this. I like to see it,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: you know, but I don't know. Oh, by the way,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: it was this was from Boxing King Media. Eddie Hern
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: has confirmed the IBF mandatory. It is first in line,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: better better be got an exception to face evolve the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: rematching conditions that he fights effort next. So you know,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: is he gonna stand up for his dude or is
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: he gonna want to see the best fight? If that
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: even happens, you know, it literally might be that they're
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: just gonna make the trilogy. This was kind of funny,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: as I'm Matt on Twitter says Canelo like on the
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Ring magazine, They're they're asking him questions. It's a post
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: there and he says, uh, what changed your Canelo? You know,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: asking a question, Canelo, what changed your mind? What changed
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: your opinion on the potential fight with Crawford, And Canelo's
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: answer was, people want to see that fight.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: That's why all of a sudden and Matt quote tweeted
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: is David Bendie Benevidez in the room with us right now, Like,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: what do you mean people want to see that fight?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: That's why you change it around what are we what
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: are we talking about? I think that's about it. I
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna go any further than that. We
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: will see. Oh, this is this was a direct quote
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: on the Pat McAfee show. He said, Turkey said this.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: There are small things also happening. I said to you
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: the Times Square and also the small card in al
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Care hold on, this is all messed up, okay, and
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: also a small card in the end of June at
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Alcatraz jail in San Francisco, maybe me and Dana keeping
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: some promoters there in jail after ha ha. So that's
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: what people were like, Oh, now you're not cool with them,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: you know that. That's what was like, Well, to me.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: It just sounds like a takeover. Is that that's what
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: it sounds like to me. Oh, this was big news.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: I saw this on brunch Boxing. Taylor's Serrano will have
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: a trilogy in a historic all women's event on Netflix.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: That's freaking huge. July eleventh, Madison Square Garden Most Valuable
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Promotions Shots out the Most Valuable Promotions, Taylor Shroanto on Netflix. Dude,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: that is phenomenal. That's a great way to end the show. Anyway,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out of here, enjoy the fights. We'll
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: see you next week. Peach