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#86: Midsommar (2019) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? Welcome to watch your least
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  favorite scary movie. The podcasts, are we talked
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  about the good, the bad, the ugly, and the Absurd, and all
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  our favorite and least favorite scary movies, as we believe
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  every horror movie rightfully, has its fanbase, even if we
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  don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jessie and today, we are talking 2019 Midsummer when
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  it's been a long time coming. We've talked about this one on
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  the show. I think a couple of I'm special
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  times and we're actually recording this on the first day
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  of summer. Oh my God.
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  Yeah, on Sunday. It's summer.
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  It's beginning of summer for us. Yeah.
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  But it's the middle of like meteorological summer.
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  That's what they say where it's like summer for the weather but
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  not summer. It is the solstice.
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  Yeah. Like in in the movie would be
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  happening right now. I think.
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  Yeah, cuz they Leave like mid-june and they're supposed to
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  come back at the end of July. Yeah, exactly.
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  So yeah, it's perfect timing. We time the side just for this
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  on purpose, of course. No, I literally did build this
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  one schedule around having. Hey this is this week.
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  Yeah. Okay.
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  Well yeah, remember remember because my first draft you were
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  like this is a really unbalanced schedule.
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  You're like let's move Midsummer and I was like no absolutely
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  not. Yeah I will move other movies
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  but we're not moving. Then summer.
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  All right. Cool.
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  Well I'm excited to talk about this one.
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  This is a movie that you and I have both.
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  We both have very strong feelings towards, yes, and just
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  given everybody heads up. They're both very positive, but
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  we are going to bring some negative opinions in just a
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  balance this episode of. But anytime we talk about, is
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  overwhelmingly positive. Usually.
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  Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the whole
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  purpose of our movie. If if our movie of our podcast
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  is that we want to understand other perspectives while also.
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  So giving our perspective and I feel like there are a lot of
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  movies where we can point out like, yeah, that's stupid but I
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  still love it. And this is one of those movies
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  that I don't think. We're gonna have any of those
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  moments. So we did look up some, some
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  opinions from the other side. Yeah, but I don't have any
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  announcements today. None.
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  None. If you want to go ahead and read
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  last week's poll results. I will get right on, though.
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  What was that movie last week movie was Halloween?
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  Curse of Michael myers.slc, right?
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  And I came up with another good pull idea.
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  Yeah. Okay.
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  So, as always, we try and base these poles spaced off of last
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  week's movie, Jesse suggested, would you rather listen to Paul
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  Rudd's? Tommy?
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  Tommy Doyle, yeah? Tommy Doyle?
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  Who's Tommy Wallace? I was about to say Tommy while I
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  can. I caught it last episode, I
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  called him. Tell me Wallace to.
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  That's the guy that directed Halloween 3.
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  Okay. Yeah.
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  Which is weird because I would expect to get them mixed up with
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  Tommy Jarvis. Yeah, but it never came up.
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  No. Yeah.
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  Okay. So would you rather listen to
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  Paul Rudd as Tommy Doyle ranting and raving on back, talk with
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  Barry Simms, or would you rather be locked into Halloween, open
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  mic night with Tommy Doyle as portrayed by Anthony?
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  And, and Hall. Michael Hall, Denis, Michael
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  Hall. I can't remember his name, for
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  whatever. It's because we haven't covered
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  that movie yet. It's not ingrained in my memory.
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  Yeah, yeah. Because I apposite advised that
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  everybody would prefer the Paul Rudd version because there's
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  freedom of movement, there's consent, there's more consent
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  involved. Yeah, yeah.
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  Well, and that in the episode, you've laid out the scenario in
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  which you're in there with Tommy and Halloween kills, and he's
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  got, you walked up which he died.
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  He tells everybody to sit down and shut up.
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  I mean, not verbatim but I could see I'm being like that, though.
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  Okay. But, but, but for this one on
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  Twitter, I can go ahead and say, without even having to look
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  everybody was for Paul Rhoads, version hell.
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  Yeah. On Instagram.
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  However, we had a little bit of variety.
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  It was 89% Paul, Rudd, and Halloween, 6 and 11 percent,
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  preferred Anthony. Michael Hall.
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  Has interesting. Yes, so I am also like I said
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  like I think Paul Rhoads was more interesting around
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  necessarily like Tommy's way of doing it and how WinCo's because
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  his is pretentious. He's like once upon a time and
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  then the and he's like, just kidding.
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  It's real stories like he's trying to do like swim poetry
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  type. She like he thinks it's like
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  really deep but he's just kind of up there.
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  Yeah, he's full of himself, whereas Paul Rudd is like, hell
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  yeah, weirdos love the Colin too.
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  A radio station. What's up?
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  I have trauma, Paul Rudd's, actively like peeping on his
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  neighbor with a telescope. Like he's not a winner in this
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  scenario either. He's also like it's a relevant
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  episode 2 because they're talking about Michael Myers and
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  Loomis. And yeah, that's so yesterday,
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  he didn't bring the mood down that night.
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  And as always, anybody can participate on Twitter and
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  Instagram. WE Post those polls every
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  Friday, so We're going to go ahead and plug this shit up top,
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  because I have a feeling we're going to get very distracted by
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  our discussion today. So if you want to participate
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  and stuff like that, you want to see our schedule, you want to
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  give us your reviews, all of that.
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  Under some username. We have a website.
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  What's your least favorite scary movie.com and we haven't even
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  Mail address least favorite scary movie in gmail.com.
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  Yes and thank you for the reviews because we got a decent
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  amount here and we have some negative reviews.
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  So if you yeah you know, feel free, anybody listening.
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  Soon. As your thoughts they get shared
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  on the show and we really do try to like actively listen to why
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  people I hope that comes across that were actually trying to
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  give a voice to that. Yeah.
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  So I think. Yeah.
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  All right. So having said all that I think
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  it's time we finally start talking about.
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  Midsummer hell yeah some Summer came out in 2019 on July third
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  throws most at the anniversary. What was my mind?
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  That this is only three years old almost.
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  It's not even three years old yet.
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  Like, I feel like this movie has been out for a long time now.
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  Yeah, we watch the a24 director's, cut special edition.
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  It is a beautiful, beautiful, like physical item.
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  It doesn't fit on our Shelf. No, it's It's got its own stand.
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  It's the centerpiece on top of it is but it's got like art art
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  stuff with it. Like an art book.
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  That's the word. I'm trying to think of and it's
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  also there's a lot of deleted scenes in there that add more
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  context to some things. So, I always recommend people
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  watch it because generally when I hear people asking questions,
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  it's stuff that can be answered by the director's cut.
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  Yeah. And Be warned though.
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  It's 30 minutes more so it makes it officially a three-hour
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  movie. So it does not feel like 3
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  hours, it doesn't. I'm always shocked every time
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  that it's been three hours that we've been watching it.
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  Yeah. Because this movie moves well
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  like actually has a good Pace but you will have to set aside
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  that much time. Yeah, watch this but if you want
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  to watch just the theatrical cut it is currently streaming on
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  Prime premium Hulu premium YouTube TV premium sling TV
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  premium fubo TV premium Showtime or you can rent it through
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  YouTube Google play or voodoo This movie was written and
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  directed by re a stir. There were a lot of people
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  involved in music and special effects.
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  So just go check out the IMDb page for that because it's a lot
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  starring Florence. Pugh is Danny Jack Rainer is
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  Christian vilhelm? Blomgren as Pelé, William
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  Jackson, Harper as Josh and Will Poulter as Mark, the budget for
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  this movie was 9 million dollars with a worldwide, gross of
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  forty, seven point, nine million.
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  I'm going to put that in budget. That's definitely budgeting not
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  Buck, said I would say, yeah, if feels budget e for me, it's
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  currently got a 7.1 on IMDb and wanted to get those ratings to
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  to compare to the next two movies but also came out in
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  2019, okay? These are movies that you and I
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  have both seen one of them. We saw in theaters and the other
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  one, we Played a drinking game two in our old apartment who.
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  Okay, which one. So the first one is us which
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  came out in March 22nd, 2019. Okay, that one is firmly budget
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  of 20 million dollars. I mean they're throwing money at
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  Jordan pill at that point. Well and it makes sense because
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  it also got a worldwide gross of 255 million.
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  Yeah. So double the budget and almost
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  five times the gross, but it only has a six point eight on
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  IMDb. Is when, when you think about
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  it, it's not as good as get out, but it's a decently solid movie,
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  still, and then the other movie that came out.
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  August 16th, 2019 is 47 meters down uncage.
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  All right? This one I will always maintain
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  is better than the first one if not for the fact that there's
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  the one ridiculous girl, who's fucking selfish.
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  And it's hilarious to watch which one has Sylvester
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  Sylvester, Stallone's daughter. The uncaged the sequel.
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  Yes. Okay, cool.
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  Yes, that's the one to watch. Definitely.
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  Yeah. You and you don't have to see
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  the first one to watch this. It's great.
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  My only gripe with it is that it's not called 48 meters down.
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  Just like move it up when we did.
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  I just see if I can get a little bit deeper like that idea.
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  What? That's great.
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  That actually was budget. Also 12 million dollars, I can
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  see that I think Amazon actually Used that one released
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  distributed. It, it had a worldwide gross of
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  forty seven point five million. So just a little under what
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  Midsummer brought in with a slightly higher budget, and it's
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  got an IMDb score, 5.0. It sounds about right.
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  People cannot have the same refined tastes less.
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  It's not like great Cinema, but it's not have to cover it now.
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  I'm absolutely down. I think that that would be a fun
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  one to talk about. Okay.
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  Do you want to know the tagline for this?
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  Is there only one? Yes.
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  Yeah. What is according to IMDb let
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  the festivities begin? I like it.
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  I think that's actually good. I don't know.
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  I don't know if I have a better one for it.
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  I my brain just immediately goes to let those 74th Annual Hunger
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  Games begin. No?
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  Really? Yeah.
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  I don't have that. Yeah.
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  Fine, sir to me, I think it works pretty well.
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  Well, I've got some interesting information from an interview
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  with Alyssa Wilkerson for vox.com.
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  I'm not going to read a bunch of fun facts for this movie, their
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  stuff. Like I can sprinkle and along
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  the way instead, what I'm going to do is I'm going to link this
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  interview in our show notes, okay?
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  I'm going to link the midsummer subreddit in our show notes
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  because there's a lot of information that people have
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  their a lot of cool observation. And somebody did meet the horta
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  that it'll whole series of introducing all of the different
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  horta community members. Okay.
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  Yeah. And like they've just done so
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  much more work and I just, I think it's fascinating to read
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  through and I'm also going to link Tumblr page a Blog.
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  It's the Danny and Pele receipts.
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  That's a really good one. I remember you showing that to
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  me and it's an interesting read. Yeah.
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  And I don't necessarily know how much like I buy into there.
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  The the hype they have for it but it brings up a lot of really
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  interesting perspectives and re ouster is a very intentional
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  director so I think all of the observations they make are
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  important even if you don't necessarily buy into like the
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  shipping of Danny and Pele. Yeah but I did want to highlight
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  a couple of interesting lines from this interview because did
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  they address what I have heard is some of the criticism that
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  people have for this movie, In that it's predictable.
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  And what he says is that it goes exactly where you're expecting,
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  but the surprise is how it feels to get there.
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  That is something that I feel I said before on the show that I
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  don't necessarily care if a movie is predictable, as long as
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  I enjoy the ride to get there, I don't think everything has to be
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  a Twist. Yeah, and I mean I don't I just
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  doesn't really feel like it needs that with this story,
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  like, I feel like the ride is what's enjoyable?
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  Like, it's not like it's not slapping you in the face with
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  what's going to happen either. Like it's all like pretty
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  interesting to see. It develop.
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  Yeah, if nothing we said it last week when we're One of what is
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  the word? I'm trying to think of when we
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  were not plotting it, no previewing know.
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  I can't think of the word but we're talking about it.
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  It's a visually stunning movie, if nothing else like, it's very
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  visually beautiful. He also says that he doesn't see
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  the Harga as a cult, they're not necessarily meant to be
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  foreboding. They believe in what they do.
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  They're not plotting their more of a community.
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  Yeah. So I find that interesting
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  because they definitely use Colt tactics to draw in members.
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  We see, that was Danny, especially where she Is
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  vulnerable, she's vulnerable, they love bomb her.
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  They put her in a position where she has to make this decision.
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  That kind of pulls her into their Community.
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  Yeah. So they definitely have all the
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  Hallmarks of a cold but that's not what he was going into while
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  he was making it. He's a very big folk or fan and
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  a lot of people have apparently asked him like, you know, if he
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  was trying to reference a bunch of Hulk or and he was like, it's
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  not necessarily that I had been like watching and researching
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  this stuff. It's just just in my bones like
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  it's what I love in horror and he tried to follow a lot of
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  those same. Like he doesn't really try to
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  follow a lot of those same beats.
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  He just kind of did when he was making this for.
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  Yeah I can see that. Let me see.
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  I think this is the quota have pulled up.
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  I don't really care about managing expectations.
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  People can react however they like this is in response to
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  people not liking the storyline and Being kind of upset that
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  it's different from hereditary. I think it's better to enter the
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  film without any knowledge, but it's a movie that is adhering to
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  the laws of a certain sub genre folk or but with the logic of a
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  different genre, a fairy tale how do you turn a folk horror
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  film into a fairy tale? Well you have tourists visiting
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  a pagan Community, they are inevitably going to be killed
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  off. If the film is going to be
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  satisfying to the people who are going there for that movie.
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  And then Allison Wilkinson says, these audiences are coming to
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  see people die to a cherry res response.
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  Exactly. But my attitude is okay, so we
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  know that they're gonna die. So that's the least.
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  Interesting thing about this movie, you know, she points out.
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  Okay. So you heal a lot of them off
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  screen and he said it happens all scream because I already
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  know that, you know, I'll give you a little bit of that but
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  otherwise, that's not what's going to make this film?
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  Interesting. Yeah, that's true.
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  Like, I mean, this, this isn't that type of film like I think
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  it is kind of creepy. Like as the film progresses, one
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  of the characters disappear and you honestly have no idea what's
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  happening like they're just gone and that's another criticism
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  that I've heard of the film. Is that people feel like it's
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  not necessarily scary. You don't see anything happening
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  off-screen and you know that these people are going to die
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  but that's kind of what he's trying to do with it.
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  So if you're a person that you want to be surprised and you
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  want to see all of the kills on screen, this just really isn't
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  going to be a movie for you. Normally, I side with people
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  that That want to see all the girls on screen, but I think
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  that there are reasons to not do so like what he said here, like
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  that makes sense. And honestly, I think it does
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  make it like a stronger film and a lot of it.
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  You are supposed to be drawn to Danny's Story.
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  You're supposed to, I mean, obviously, it's not fully from
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  her perspective, but you stay with her for a lot of the movie.
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  And that's another thing that he talks about with us with The
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  Break-Up being such a, the dissolution of relationship.
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  Such a central theme to the movie.
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  Is that he imagines? Everybody can understand it from
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  both sides from being in a relationship with somebody who's
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  not putting in as much as you are and you're reaching out
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  trying to get that commitment that love that person closeness
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  and from the other person. But then from the other side of
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  things where you're in a relationship and you don't know
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  how to pull back you don't know what to do.
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  You don't Not know how to end things yourself.
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  Yeah. But at this point, for this
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  movie, he wants you to be on Danny side and he even says that
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  Christian is the villain of this movie.
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  And so all you people out there, defending Christian.
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  The director says, he's the villain of the movie.
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  He does say he's pretty banal Dylan.
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  I mean, you can still feel sorry for him to.
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  I'm he has a pretty fucked up. Faith himself, like I still have
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  sympathy for his care. Definitely, but he is like an
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  asshole and I can definitely see him being like a villain.
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  Yeah. And this, another quote, I
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  pulled about this was so, hopefully you go in thinking
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  that, the her go will be the villains, then you realize it
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  was Christian all along because we're with Danny.
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  And he said, ultimately he wants it to be confusing to people, he
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  wants people to be unsure, what's happening?
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  So I think these are all really interesting takes on the movie.
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  They mirror a lot of what I love about it and I didn't read this
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  interview until this weekend. So none of this was has impacted
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  my love for the movie up until this point.
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  It really just kind of I don't know.
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  I feel like I get like ass-kissing points for
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  understanding what he was going for with a lot of it.
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  I think I'm going to give you props for it has pretty cool.
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  I had not heard him. I heard that interview from him
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  before about this. Yeah.
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  It's a it's a it's a really interesting interview.
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  And like I said, I'm going to link a bunch of stuff in the
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  show notes for this, just because this is a movie, that's
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  Been really impactful for me. So do you want to share your
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  thoughts? Yeah, I'll go ahead and start.
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  Okay, so I remember being super hyped for this movie because the
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  year before that we watched hereditary and holy fucking
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  shit. That is one of my all-time
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  favorite movies is amazing, I was on board for anything that
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  this guy had to do or anything. He wants to do, like, I'm going
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  to fully support it. I'm going to watch it because I
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  just think that he is amazing director.
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  He's got Really interesting stories to tell so far.
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  So yeah, we were in a really beautiful era of directors that
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  we were just trusting with our whole lives.
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  Yes, we had him, we had Robert Eggers and we had Sean burn and
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  literally anything those guys make I'ma watch it because they
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  haven't let me down so far haven't seen the northmen yet.
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  No we need to watch that but and yeah those guys right there and
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  even though I am notorious for shooting on the which I still
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  think that is an important movie like it may not be for me but I
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  understand what it did for the Genre its, you know, it has its
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  place but going on like the bow Midsummer I just it's such a
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  beautiful movie and people talk about it all the time, but you
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  know, it's true like just the fact that this all takes place
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  in daytime, and it's so colorful, like, just visually
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  it's nice having like, a visually, like, Pleasant movie
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  to watch and the story really, isn't that, like, it's nothing
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  special. Like, you know, if you're just
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  Apart to its core what it is but it's just an interesting fun
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  ride and I feel like it's perfectly cast like everybody
• 21:07
  plays their part super well. Like, I feel like anybody can
• 21:12
  like insert themselves in that friend group and you all know
• 21:15
  somebody that can like fill in that role.
• 21:19
  Like I can like perfectly pick out in my friend group who any
• 21:22
  person I can just put, I mean it's just kind of cool like you
• 21:26
  know it's a super relatable movie.
• 21:28
  It just handles its subjects so well and I just I don't know.
• 21:33
  I think it's really creepy. Like it's not like overly gonna
• 21:37
  scare me. So does that mean you're a
• 21:38
  Christian? Because I don't like that.
• 21:41
  Whoa, I'm talking about, I don't know who Christian is.
• 21:44
  I don't want to be, I don't want to be on record saying that I'm
• 21:47
  Christian because that's not a good thing.
• 21:49
  We do have a friend, who is a dead ringer for Jack reynor
• 21:53
  though and you look, so when we were watching the movie, it was
• 21:56
  like one of those we leave. Every theater we get in the car
• 22:00
  and it's like quiet for about five minutes and then like
• 22:03
  finally one of us was like so Christian looks exactly like CJ,
• 22:07
  right? Yeah.
• 22:09
  It's kind of crazy actually how much he looks like him but I
• 22:14
  never really watched the movie and think I'm wrong about it.
• 22:17
  No I just don't think it's more and more CJ.
• 22:20
  Every single time I'm like, goddamn, did he actually go away
• 22:23
  somewhere in 2019, but this movie isn't out.
• 22:28
  Outright like scary. And anyway, I like there's no
• 22:32
  scare moments or anything. It's just more unnerving and
• 22:35
  unsettling just seeing how these people operate seeing the
• 22:38
  beginning, things about like Dani and her trauma.
• 22:41
  Like it's all like very emotionally draining and kind of
• 22:44
  like a rather Terry where I caress Harry did have its scary
• 22:47
  moments, but like the majority of it was like emotional like
• 22:51
  just emotional type of movie. So I mean it's kind of the same
• 22:55
  thing with this one, maybe to a lesser degree, but It's like a
• 22:59
  different. Be like this is more
• 23:00
  relationship. The other one was family.
• 23:02
  Yeah, and it's just really well done.
• 23:05
  So obviously 10 out of 10, For Me.
• 23:08
  OK, I've obviously a 10 out of 10.
• 23:12
  I'll just go ahead and get that out of the way since it's not
• 23:14
  going to be a surprise to anybody.
• 23:16
  I I guess it depends on what you want from horror.
• 23:23
  If you're going to consider if this is a horror movie or not, I
• 23:27
  firmly feel it as horror. For one full quarter and
• 23:31
  psychological horror are two sub genres.
• 23:34
  Yes and I think this meets both of those and I hear people make
• 23:42
  the argument about this movie that it's disturbing and it's
• 23:45
  unsettling, but it's not scary. And I always want to follow it
• 23:50
  up with. Well, what is scary to you then?
• 23:53
  Because I think everybody's got different things that are scary,
• 23:57
  like for Zoe. It's a closed door.
• 24:00
  Yes. So you all can definitely hear
• 24:02
  something. She says, meow and like a
• 24:03
  fucking line over there. I think she has discovered that
• 24:07
  she gets picked up on her mics and she likes the power.
• 24:11
  Here. But yeah, it really comes down
• 24:14
  to what you find scary. And there are a lot of elements
• 24:19
  of this story that hit really, really hard for me, you know,
• 24:25
  having a long experience with mental illness.
• 24:29
  One of the scariest things I can imagine is what Danny goes
• 24:33
  through at the beginning of the movie.
• 24:34
  Yeah, that's terrifying. Like that right.
• 24:36
  There is like it sets the tone for the movie and it's harsh.
• 24:40
  Yeah. And you know, I have been in
• 24:46
  situations that have made me have to confront that before and
• 24:49
  it's that kind of scary that just feels very surreal and I've
• 24:55
  also, Been privy to like narcissistic abuse, which I
• 25:02
  think we get some of that with Christian.
• 25:04
  Yeah. It.
• 25:08
  So these are very like real elements in life that are scary
• 25:10
  to me. And yeah, it's disturbing, but I
• 25:16
  think it's disturbing in a way that's scary.
• 25:19
  You know, I let's take another example of disturbing but not
• 25:22
  necessarily scary. Blood sucking freaks.
• 25:27
  Yeah. Like, that movie is disturbing.
• 25:29
  I feel very uncomfortable when I watch it.
• 25:31
  I don't know that. I necessarily think it's scary.
• 25:33
  No, it's not scary. Yeah, it's definitely a
• 25:35
  disturbing in the treatment of all the people.
• 25:38
  Yes. Yeah.
• 25:39
  It is disturbingly violent and Dick and a bunch of other is
• 25:46
  sticks. You know, I do I find it scary.
• 25:52
  I don't know because it feels so far-fetched.
• 25:55
  Whereas the things that Danny goes through, our realistic
• 26:00
  Colts really exist. I'm just going to throw that out
• 26:04
  there. Now they are like, they believe
• 26:08
  in white supremacy. It's a thing.
• 26:10
  It? Yeah, that is something.
• 26:12
  Not overt. Yeah it's a lot clearer and the
• 26:16
  director's cut. If I'd only seen the theatrical
• 26:18
  cut, if you only see the theatrical cut, it doesn't
• 26:22
  always click right away. Yeah, this is one where I like
• 26:26
  this, watch through. I did pay more attention and I
• 26:28
  definitely did pick up on those cues.
• 26:29
  Yes. You pick up on it a lot more and
• 26:32
  that's one of those things that we're trying to like unlearn in
• 26:35
  ourselves. Like not take for granted when a
• 26:39
  cast you know is generally only representative People that look
• 26:43
  like us. Yeah, but this it it is a lot
• 26:47
  more. I mean, it's still kind of
• 26:50
  settle in the director's cut but there's like some obvious
• 26:53
  moments in there that you can't ignore it.
• 26:55
  I mean, they never outright say and they never like straight-up
• 26:58
  make it obvious but they did you there?
• 27:00
  Yeah, they lay it out there, just not.
• 27:03
  So like in your face. Yeah.
• 27:05
  And which I'm gonna I'm gonna fact-check myself and cut this
• 27:09
  if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Ari Aster is Jewish or It has
• 27:13
  Jewish Heritage so you know, yeah, well that would Nazism is
• 27:17
  also, you know, you know, an important thing to yes, talk
• 27:21
  about for him. Yes.
• 27:24
  So I just, I think it's a really well done movie that talks to a
• 27:28
  lot of deep-rooted psychological fears.
• 27:33
  That a lot of people have experienced and the way re a
• 27:37
  certain both Midsummer in hereditary addresses.
• 27:42
  Grief loss, mental illness. He addresses it in ways that I
• 27:52
  have seen very few filmmakers do as elegantly.
• 27:57
  He captures so much of this. So well, it's this thing.
• 28:02
  Yeah, and also like props to the dude for having a three-hour
• 28:06
  movie were about two and a half of them, the characters are on
• 28:09
  drugs and it's not a fucking cliche.
• 28:12
  Yeah. Like, you know, that they're
• 28:15
  tripping the whole time, but it's not so much in your face
• 28:17
  until right at the end. Yeah.
• 28:19
  And I appreciate that because it's so easy to go overboard.
• 28:22
  It doesn't feel It's authentic. Yeah it feels authentic.
• 28:27
  Yeah. Okay.
• 28:28
  So those are my pretty thoughts and discussions.
• 28:32
  Okay. So we're at a 10.
• 28:34
  Yeah, we're out of 10. We're here, but the top up at
• 28:39
  the top will be hard for us to get knocked down after this
• 28:42
  discussion. I think.
• 28:43
  Yeah, I seriously like spoiler for ourselves as well, but I
• 28:48
  don't see us. I don't see.
• 28:50
  Ours are reading lowering, but we will go ahead and go into our
• 28:55
  We might not focus on details quite as much as normal just
• 28:59
  because we don't want everybody sitting here for three hour
• 29:02
  podcast. Yes, it's a long-ass baby so we
• 29:04
  can condense certain things. Like there's a lot of this movie
• 29:08
  is like a lot of nothing happening to it but there's so
• 29:10
  much the imagery and all the shots.
• 29:12
  Because another part of the reason that I'm putting the
• 29:14
  supplemental viewing in our show notes that way everybody can
• 29:19
  appreciate all of the details that are there.
• 29:21
  Yeah, good call. So okay.
• 29:23
  All right, we start off with a tapestry that shows us exactly
• 29:26
  how the movies going to fucking go the in, it's all there.
• 29:30
  That's it. That's the end of the episode.
• 29:31
  All right, thanks guys. Next week, it is really
• 29:34
  interesting to just like outright laid out and the, the
• 29:38
  are in this movie is amazing. Like the version of the movie
• 29:42
  that we have the art book that it comes with.
• 29:44
  They has like a bunch of that stuff just in there.
• 29:46
  Like it's really just nice to look through.
• 29:48
  Like, I don't know. I just love this style of, it's
• 29:51
  all like water painted stuff. Yeah, or water colored really
• 29:54
  nice. Yeah, and it's one of those that
• 29:56
  like, I know these tapestries tell the story.
• 29:58
  So I try and pay attention to different part of it.
• 30:00
  Every time we watch, interesting.
• 30:02
  So we start off with snow and these creepy vocals.
• 30:07
  It's dark, it's cold, it's sad. Like, the tone is just right
• 30:09
  there from the beginning. It's not.
• 30:11
  Midsummer, it is not. Midsummer it is the winter
• 30:14
  solstice approximately? I don't know necessarily what
• 30:18
  the data's we hear a phone ringing inside of a house and a
• 30:22
  voicemail being left. Danny is tiling.
• 30:25
  In her parents that she got a scary email from her sister
• 30:27
  Terry and she's like I don't know.
• 30:29
  Did you go up a fight? Is something going on?
• 30:32
  Just wanted to check in, you know, you guys can call me if
• 30:35
  you need anything. Which I feel like that's kind of
• 30:37
  heartbreaking because I feel like she's probably always been
• 30:40
  the one to kind of try and hold everybody together.
• 30:42
  Yeah we see her laptop and she's got an email and says I can't
• 30:46
  anymore. Everything was black.
• 30:48
  Mom and Dad are coming too goodbye.
• 30:50
  That's dark that's dark. Yeah, that's fucking dark in
• 30:54
  her. Sir we find out how history of
• 30:57
  bipolar disorder and so she's you know, she's having an
• 31:01
  episode most likely. Yeah.
• 31:03
  And Danny is rightfully alarmed and she we see that she has
• 31:09
  emailed her back several times. Like Danny has attempted to
• 31:13
  contact Terry and Terry has not responded to any of the emails
• 31:17
  and she's understandably upset. So she calls Christian.
• 31:21
  Oh, and also knows like whenever she brings up the phone to call
• 31:23
  Christian like you can see Her a list.
• 31:25
  Like she's try back just a minute ago.
• 31:26
  She's tried calling her sisters. She just can't.
• 31:29
  She's just like keeps trying to get in touch.
• 31:32
  Yeah. And she doesn't lead with that
• 31:37
  and she's like, I just wanted to see if you still want to hang
• 31:39
  out tonight and he was like, oh, where we going to do that and
• 31:42
  she goes, well, you did mention, you know, maybe coming by later,
• 31:45
  whatever. And he was like, yo, I don't
• 31:46
  know. We'll see, he's kind of
• 31:48
  wishy-washy about it. It's very interesting watching
• 31:51
  this movie because the longer the movie goes on to Are you
• 31:55
  realize they've been together? Because when you first start it
• 31:58
  you're like oh well this seems like a new relationship doesn't.
• 32:02
  Then you're too right here. Yeah.
• 32:05
  Like so this phone call right here sounds like you know, maybe
• 32:09
  a few months. Yeah.
• 32:10
  You know he asked how the sisters situation is she's like,
• 32:13
  you know, I still haven't heard back, I'm just kind of freaked
• 32:15
  out and he's like Well, she does this to you every time, you
• 32:19
  know, she puts up some flag and you come running and she's like,
• 32:23
  well she has bipolar I have to kind of take that seriously, you
• 32:27
  know. Which yeah.
• 32:29
  Like yeah, but you sponsors like well you just you keep letting
• 32:34
  her do this and she always says a student.
• 32:35
  She always takes advantage of you.
• 32:36
  You need to just stop and then he like you get super
• 32:39
  inconsiderate about it. Like he's just he's just he's
• 32:42
  annoyed that he has to provide her Comfort.
• 32:44
  Yeah and he just wants to get off the phone.
• 32:47
  You can tell in his voice like he's just is done with the
• 32:50
  conversation, so she apologizes. Yep.
• 32:53
  And then they hang up and then we cut to Christian, he's at a
• 32:58
  bar restaurant or whatever. What?
• 32:59
  Looks like a like a pizza. That's what I was thinking.
• 33:04
  Might type place that you go to, you know, college town.
• 33:06
  Yeah, exactly. And they're all out there like
• 33:09
  he's with his group of friends. Yeah, they're drinking him.
• 33:11
  And Mark had just smoked some resin as we find out and Mark
• 33:15
  like I feel like this is a nice touch Much too.
• 33:17
  Because when we started the scene where in Danny's apartment
• 33:20
  and we hear in the background, we're going.
• 33:21
  Hi Danny, hi Danny. Hi Danny.
• 33:23
  You know, she says, hi back. So you kind of feel like maybe
• 33:26
  if she's friends with his friends and then as soon as it
• 33:28
  cuts to them at the diner, he was like why haven't you broken
• 33:31
  up with her yet? You can?
• 33:33
  I mean that's like a very much passive-aggressive thing like hi
• 33:36
  Danny. Hi Danny.
• 33:37
  Hi. Danny like it's kind of like him
• 33:39
  giving it back to her because she just keeps calling for
• 33:41
  Action. I don't know.
• 33:42
  I didn't take it that way. I say I do stuff like that too.
• 33:45
  When I'm around, like, if If I'm at my sister's house and her
• 33:48
  husband calls me like, I Justin, but you like Justin, like he
• 33:52
  doesn't like Danny. I get that.
• 33:55
  Like, I get that energy from him here, like he's doing it.
• 33:57
  Like he's like, I don't know. I get the impression that he's
• 34:01
  doing it because he's annoyed but he's like it's like that
• 34:03
  fake. Nice and swear, you know, he's
• 34:06
  pretending to be nice but like it's very thinly.
• 34:09
  Veiled, like you can tell that he actually is annoyed, but he's
• 34:12
  basically trying to convince Christian to break up with her
• 34:16
  attorney says you. Wanting to break up with her for
• 34:18
  a year. Yes.
• 34:18
  So then you're sitting here going, okay?
• 34:20
  Maybe then been together for a little over a year.
• 34:22
  Yeah. You know, like it doesn't feel
• 34:25
  like it's that old of a relationship but you know, their
• 34:28
  grad students so things can be a little bit more loosey-goosey.
• 34:32
  Not necessarily living together at this point.
• 34:34
  So, it is what it is. They talk about their trip to
• 34:38
  Sweden. We see Danny back at her
• 34:43
  apartment, she calls another friend and she's got it.
• 34:47
  So sad again. She's like, I can't, I feel like
• 34:49
  I'm pushing him away. I'm always leaning on him and
• 34:52
  her friend was like, well, yeah. Who's your boyfriend?
• 34:56
  That's what he's there for. Like, you should be able to lean
• 34:59
  on your boyfriend. She's like, but I've never even
• 35:01
  seen him cry and her friends, like, yeah, because he fucking
• 35:04
  sucks. He's a sociopath.
• 35:06
  He probably never has cry. Yeah, I think I mean, she's just
• 35:09
  concerned because Like she comes to him with the her emotional
• 35:13
  issues so much and that can be overwhelming.
• 35:17
  It can be like, I also like you mean that's kind of your that's
• 35:22
  kind of what you're there for in a relationship, you know.
• 35:24
  Yeah, you have to be able to provide that and she seems Self
• 35:29
  aware of how much emotional support she's asking for him to
• 35:33
  the point of her own self detriment.
• 35:35
  Yeah, so I doubt she's like overburdening him except for the
• 35:40
  fact that like he just doesn't want to be in a relationship
• 35:43
  where he has to be emotionally supportive of somebody else.
• 35:45
  Yeah. Which is a him issue that he
• 35:48
  needs to sort out? Yeah I mean I think they could
• 35:51
  both breakup and it would be for the best right here honestly.
• 35:54
  For both of them. Yes.
• 35:56
  Except Danny gets Call from an unknown number.
• 36:00
  And you know, we don't hear the phone call but we can pretty
• 36:05
  much guess what it is because we cut back to Christian at the
• 36:08
  restaurant and he gets another phone call and Margo's like
• 36:12
  really Jesus again blah blah blah blah because emotional
• 36:15
  abuse. Yeah which know yeah and when he
• 36:19
  answers the phone you just hear Danny screaming and crying and
• 36:23
  saying no no. Oh God.
• 36:24
  No. I also like how Josh like Josh
• 36:27
  is fed up with With Christian, from the very beginning of this
• 36:30
  movie, because he's just straight up says, never think
• 36:33
  that you're just drawing this relationship drum out because
• 36:36
  you don't want to confront the whole issue of your thesis and
• 36:39
  he's like, what the fuck is that supposed to mean?
• 36:41
  Josh, I'm Josh from the beginning is so hard about his.
• 36:45
  These are the two sides of William Jackson Harper.
• 36:48
  So we've got Josh but then we've got chiti.
• 36:52
  So Josh is a cheetah didn't study ethics.
• 36:55
  Yeah, anthropology. So true.
• 37:00
  It's, that's him. Yeah, he's not studying ethics,
• 37:03
  he's allowed to be as much of a logical.
• 37:06
  Cold-hearted dick. Is he wants to be?
• 37:07
  Yeah, this man does not seem to care about another human being
• 37:10
  in the entire world. He was anthropology heal, our
• 37:14
  anthropology to the point where he was completely disconnected
• 37:17
  from how to have an actual human conversation.
• 37:19
  How does he even have friends? Honestly, like, he doesn't have
• 37:22
  a conversation outside of that. I don't think I'm thinking talks
• 37:25
  once in this movie about anything, Not about his thesis
• 37:30
  or Midsummer or his. No, no, just anthropology in
• 37:34
  general. Well, I can tell you, he is
• 37:36
  friends with Christian because Christian is like, depending on
• 37:39
  him to graduate. He's yeah.
• 37:42
  He's right in jstor and told Josh showed him how and he's a
• 37:46
  fucking grad student. Yes they are all grad students
• 37:49
  in the anthropology program. We should mention.
• 37:52
  Yep. They're working on their phds
• 37:54
  and the whole reason they're going to Sweden is because
• 37:57
  they're going through. Out Europe to study to observe
• 38:01
  Midsummer Traditions. It was Josh's plan for his
• 38:05
  thesis and everybody else kind of tagging along.
• 38:07
  Yeah. Just for like a free vacation.
• 38:08
  Yeah it's paley's Village. Yeah and we know that Christian
• 38:12
  it's hammered in very heavily that Christian does not know
• 38:17
  what his thesis is going to be. We learned very quickly that
• 38:21
  Christian just kind of wishy-washy guy.
• 38:23
  Yeah you can't commit to anything.
• 38:25
  Yeah. So he gets his phone call from
• 38:27
  Danny and then Then. We see him walking to her
• 38:34
  apartment. And then we get this, like,
• 38:36
  fucking terrifying sequence of the fire department at the Artur
• 38:39
  household and we find out that I'm not going to go into the
• 38:44
  details of it because it's just, it's horrific.
• 38:46
  But Dan it's a murder-suicide. Yeah.
• 38:49
  Terry has killed herself and her parents.
• 38:51
  Yeah. Leaving Danny alone basically.
• 38:56
  Yeah and all she has this Christian God forbid.
• 38:59
  Yeah. And Christian for all of his
• 39:04
  lack of emotional. Emotional, culpability does
• 39:08
  realize that it would be a dick move to break up with her now.
• 39:12
  Yeah, that's where he draws one right there, like the family's
• 39:16
  all dead. Okay, fine.
• 39:18
  I guess I'll come over to your place.
• 39:19
  And here's the thing like that moment where he like realizes
• 39:23
  that I hate to use the word trapped, but from his
• 39:27
  perspective, that's kind of how he's saying is he can't forget
• 39:30
  our relationship. Yeah, it's a bad time.
• 39:33
  They like end it right there, but at the same time, if he had
• 39:37
  broken up with her at a point when he realized that they
• 39:40
  weren't compatible, we wouldn't be in this situation, give us
• 39:44
  some time. But I will say that this scene
• 39:47
  right here, you can, like, when he's out on the sidewalk and
• 39:49
  he's walking up to the building and you can hear Danny crying
• 39:52
  from the streets. That is like a time where I feel
• 39:56
  dread for him because he has to walk into that situation.
• 39:59
  I feel for Danny to because that is a whore for, like horrible,
• 40:03
  horrible scenario, Bo I just having to be that person to like
• 40:09
  help somebody during that. Like, I don't wish any.
• 40:13
  I don't want to be anybody in that scenario.
• 40:15
  That's just tough for all parties.
• 40:17
  I do find it a little bit odd, though.
• 40:18
  That Christian seems completely unaffected again.
• 40:22
  This is another reason that you might I think that the
• 40:24
  relationship is newer because it seems like he's got no
• 40:27
  connection. You don't think he's exactly
• 40:30
  like I can sense The Dread in his face.
• 40:32
  I see the dread and him not wanting to take care of Danny
• 40:36
  and CI. I mean more like because spoiler
• 40:40
  he's been with Danny for four years.
• 40:43
  Yeah, at this point, he has to have met her family.
• 40:48
  That's true. Yeah, and you would think he
• 40:49
  would be at least somewhat affected by them all die.
• 40:52
  Like, and I don't know, maybe it's just me, but even, you
• 40:56
  know, if I wasn't affected by losing people, that I know, I
• 41:00
  would be affected by the grief that somebody I am supposed to
• 41:03
  love is going through. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:06
  And he's just like, awkwardly, like, There there buddy.
• 41:13
  It's like a wedding or crying out like a baby basically.
• 41:15
  Yeah, but you his body language is very much like I do not want
• 41:19
  to be here. Yeah.
• 41:20
  But I think he's scared to like that's a scary situation for
• 41:23
  him. And that's another big moment
• 41:25
  right there, where like like he is, he's doing the right thing
• 41:31
  by being there, but like, he's not like, you can also like
• 41:33
  doing it half-hearted. Yeah.
• 41:35
  But then you can also kind of like Phil for him to, for having
• 41:37
  to do that. I do.
• 41:39
  Yeah. Yeah, he's not a good guy, he's
• 41:41
  still sucks. He's not just saying my
• 41:43
  sympathy. If I have to divide it between
• 41:45
  the two of them like, oh, yeah, thanks finally Danny.
• 41:48
  Yeah, I won't mean, obviously Danny.
• 41:50
  I'm trying to like provide, like a yeah side for somebody that,
• 41:53
  you know, probably doesn't get really discuss in this scenario
• 41:56
  very much. But anyways, so that's happened.
• 42:00
  Now, we get a title card. Yes, we get a title card.
• 42:02
  And what I assume is a Time skip, because we are now like,
• 42:06
  in June, yes, it looks nicer out.
• 42:09
  And then we find out because Christian says he's gonna go to
• 42:12
  a party for 45 minutes. First of all, who goes to a
• 42:15
  party for 45 minutes. Second of all he doesn't seem
• 42:17
  like the type of guy that's like honest about it.
• 42:19
  No, he that's he's trying to get away from her.
• 42:21
  Yeah. Actually and she's like no I'll
• 42:23
  come with you but while they're there you can see like she's
• 42:27
  kind of just tuned in everything out.
• 42:29
  And she turns back in when she hears going to Sweden and she
• 42:33
  learns that. Yeah, their plan is they're
• 42:35
  going to be leaving for Sweden in two weeks and they're going
• 42:38
  to be there until the end of July.
• 42:39
  Why. And she has a very mature
• 42:43
  conversation with him about it. Yeah.
• 42:47
  Whatever they get home. Yeah, she's not accusatory.
• 42:49
  She doesn't make a scene in the party.
• 42:51
  She doesn't make a scene in the cab.
• 42:54
  They're just, it's a show that because it's like that awkward
• 42:58
  silence. We're like, oh, okay, that's
• 43:00
  like the tension there is so fucking Tim.
• 43:02
  Yeah, you know, that the cab driver was dying to know what
• 43:06
  happened after they got out of the cab.
• 43:08
  But he's also Very grateful that if it's like a dragon.
• 43:12
  Maybe he messages like hey, y'all what happened?
• 43:14
  Yeah, okay. Yeah.
• 43:17
  And she was like, Hey, so you know, that's a little bit weird
• 43:21
  that you didn't tell me. You were planning this big trip
• 43:24
  and he's like, why are you talking about this?
• 43:26
  I just decided today, you know that I'm wanting to work on my
• 43:29
  thesis and she's like, just like I just want to know, like I just
• 43:33
  find it weird, you didn't tell me like you didn't.
• 43:35
  She's like, I don't even need permisson, it's not like that.
• 43:39
  I just Just it's weird. You didn't let me do it.
• 43:42
  I guess it's going to go to Sweden like in two weeks and not
• 43:45
  even mention it. You're just going to be gone
• 43:46
  suddenly. Yeah and it turns into this
• 43:49
  whole thing where he like he gets so defensive about it that
• 43:53
  by the end of the conversation Danny's apologizing to him
• 43:56
  because he's threatening to leave and she's afraid of being
• 43:59
  alone right now. So she needs him.
• 44:00
  So she apologizes she apologizes and dress like have a
• 44:04
  conversation. Psycho is this could be good for
• 44:06
  your thesis right? And then he like, I think he
• 44:09
  gets even more I heard about that and then he has the
• 44:11
  audacity. I think this is only a
• 44:13
  directors. Yeah, sure thing.
• 44:15
  He's like well, I wasn't surprised, but I was gonna
• 44:18
  invite you to come along with. I was gonna make it romantic.
• 44:21
  Yeah. Oh my, you can see the bullshit
• 44:23
  in his face. So I feel so bad for her that
• 44:25
  she has to. Like, this is her guy.
• 44:27
  This is her Rock right now. He's at Pebble.
• 44:32
  He sucks like he. I just feel bad for her.
• 44:35
  But yeah. So that's why whenever we Cut to
• 44:39
  the next scene. It's him.
• 44:41
  He's there with Mark and Pele and Josh.
• 44:44
  He runs into this apartment and like did he leave Danny down in
• 44:49
  the lobby? Like, did he close the elevator
• 44:52
  on her leg? Looks like he's like, he's like,
• 45:06
  okay guys, Danny's coming, you guys.
• 45:09
  Is invited her. It's cool.
• 45:11
  You guys are all psyched about this, okay?
• 45:14
  And you're like wait, she's coming, you know, she's not
• 45:16
  coming. I invited her.
• 45:19
  She said yes, she bought a ticket but she's not coming.
• 45:25
  This is, by the way, this is your all suggestion.
• 45:29
  And that was this is literally the only like emotionally
• 45:32
  intelligent moment that Josh had was like when Christian first
• 45:35
  runs in and he's like, Danny is coming.
• 45:37
  Josh is like oh should we put up the sweet?
• 45:39
  And stuff because she clearly was not into it at the party.
• 45:44
  Yeah. And he's like no, no.
• 45:46
  I invited her. She's not coming but she has her
• 45:49
  ticket and she packed her bags. She's not coming this, this
• 45:53
  movie has some really good. Comedic moments in that one
• 45:55
  right there. Like, it kills me.
• 45:57
  I love it. But I think you see it on their
• 45:59
  faces, Mark is pissed. Yeah.
• 46:02
  Danny actually shows up and wherever she goes into the room,
• 46:05
  looks like, hey, Christian, can you read this paragraph for me?
• 46:08
  I think it's such a X5 walks into another room.
• 46:13
  Behind you. Yeah, it's amazing.
• 46:16
  Yeah, you can say I mean, he's obviously just like pissed off
• 46:19
  that Danny's coming. He doesn't want her to be there
• 46:22
  and so this gives Danny the opportunity to finally like talk
• 46:26
  one-on-one with pay away because Josh is going to talk.
• 46:29
  Yeah yeah. Danny and pail are talking for
• 46:33
  like a minute and then Josh like stands up microwaves, some
• 46:37
  coffee and like sits at this table in the kitchen like he is,
• 46:41
  you know, there's passive But this is like aggressively
• 46:44
  passive. Yeah man, this is what I'm
• 46:46
  saying. How is he friends with anybody
• 46:48
  here? I think the only reason that
• 46:50
  he's really tall random roommate pairing think so, and he doesn't
• 46:55
  have the energy to try and find anybody else.
• 46:57
  You know what, I actually would buy into that theory right there
• 47:00
  because he's just not friendly with Auntie but I do think he's
• 47:04
  like the same way that Christian is probably using Josh like
• 47:07
  Josh's using Pele. Oh yeah, you know, probably
• 47:11
  yeah, I could see that. Yeah, but and then Palais is,
• 47:16
  you know, like they're talking and Daniel's like yeah, we're
• 47:17
  actually going to get there on my birthday and he was like, oh,
• 47:19
  happy early birthday, you know, they kind of talked about school
• 47:22
  a little bit and she kind of hints that she has to retake
• 47:26
  some classes because she missed her finals.
• 47:29
  Yeah, understandable. And then he is like, hey, I
• 47:34
  wanted to tell you how very sorry I am and she like Kaido
• 47:39
  has a panic attack. If there's one thing that pay
• 47:41
  loves more than his mid summer activities, it's having these
• 47:46
  dramatic conversations about how his parents died to a key legal
• 47:51
  looks from Windows of opportunities to bring this up
• 47:53
  because like what do Danny and I have in common deaf parents.
• 47:57
  Yeah. All right I'm going to work that
• 47:59
  one in any chance I get and backfires every single time,
• 48:03
  every single time until he literally holds her down on a
• 48:06
  bed. Yeah.
• 48:07
  Yeah. Yeah, but this is an amazing
• 48:10
  transition shot because she goes to have her quiet panic attack
• 48:14
  in the bathroom and it does like this overhead shot and then it
• 48:17
  turns into an airplane bathroom. Yeah, and it's just so perfect
• 48:20
  like and yeah, she's in completely different clothes.
• 48:23
  They're on the airplane, they're flying the Sweden.
• 48:26
  We get into it like rental car van or whatever for the next
• 48:30
  scene and this this scene is drawn out a little bit more than
• 48:34
  it is in the theatrical Cut 2. So you get a lot more of their
• 48:37
  third eye. Yeah.
• 48:38
  And the theatrical cut like it's very quick Snippets and I use
• 48:42
  text message from Danny's friend, Amy, wishing her.
• 48:47
  A happy birthday. Oh, I wrote down the topics that
• 48:50
  they talked about on the way. Okay, hold on.
• 48:51
  But I just want to say, I wonder if this is the same friend that
• 48:54
  she was talking to the night, her parents died.
• 48:57
  I wonder if that's the sound. I would think so.
• 49:00
  She should be with hanging out with her more often and Yashin.
• 49:03
  Honestly, but I want with that like it has a Quick Cuts to like
• 49:06
  random conversations that they're having.
• 49:07
  Because it's a four-hour drive for them.
• 49:10
  So the first one is a three quit woman.
• 49:12
  Mmm. The second one is like how I
• 49:16
  think? They're quizzing Josh or like
• 49:17
  asking Josh how he feels about like Mass tragedy?
• 49:20
  How do you feel about genocide? How do you feel about the
• 49:22
  Holocaust? How do you feel about slavery?
• 49:24
  Is it goes dude, and let's see in the other one is a mark is
• 49:34
  like can you imagine guy reading the news and all you can think
• 49:37
  about Bludgeoned his wife. Yeah, right yeah.
• 49:41
  Which all Mark is what he is. One of those friends that you
• 49:46
  would not want to have around all the time but like he would
• 49:50
  be really fun sometimes. Yeah, he is that friend.
• 49:54
  Like yes, funny moments. He's a funny guy but he is also
• 49:57
  easily an asshole. Like he's one of those friends
• 50:00
  that like if you were friends with somebody who's friends with
• 50:02
  him and you only saw him like in that, like, degree of
• 50:07
  separation. Yeah.
• 50:08
  That mediator. Yeah.
• 50:09
  Like it, you don't have to be around them all the time.
• 50:12
  They're kind of Runs. Yeah, exactly.
• 50:14
  Also, there's like a wine because, you know, Josh talking
• 50:18
  about his thesis and Danny said, this could be good inspiration
• 50:22
  for Christian. And he's like, yeah, maybe and
• 50:25
  Danny says to Pele, see your brain washing.
• 50:28
  All your friends has already brainwashed.
• 50:32
  Whenever I joined the anthropology program.
• 50:36
  Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, probably.
• 50:39
  Oh, and my next note is stopped and field comma drugs.
• 50:42
  Well, also they know Danny looks over at Josh and she notices he
• 50:47
  has a book that has like this W suck on it.
• 50:50
  It's a yeah. Then history of Nazi languages
• 50:53
  or something like that. Yeah.
• 50:54
  Which is a another hint about like the white supremacy thing
• 50:57
  that you were talking about. Apparently they have like their
• 50:59
  alphabet, they have like the runic alphabet that they use
• 51:02
  which apparently is very much tied in with that.
• 51:05
  So again, this is one of those things that I'm going to refer
• 51:08
  you guys to the subreddit because Smarter people than I
• 51:12
  have put together information on this, but they reference using
• 51:17
  the Elder, futhark futhark whatever.
• 51:21
  I don't know. I'll fuck another shit.
• 51:23
  I'm buying it as opposed to the newer and there's something
• 51:26
  about the way the languages are known and has been studied that
• 51:32
  for them to truly be using the Elder futhark, it has to be in
• 51:37
  you community, in this has to be their first of their grand
• 51:40
  festivities. There wasn't one ninety years
• 51:43
  ago. No, yeah, there is a really
• 51:46
  interesting like somebody that's like Sorry for not knowing the
• 51:52
  proper word, a language nerd. The language mr.
• 51:54
  Han? No, I love it.
• 51:58
  But, you know, that should be the official like title for
• 52:01
  those item ologist. Maybe, I don't know
• 52:05
  entomologist. As bugs.
• 52:07
  Exact language stories. Yeah so yeah so go check that
• 52:15
  out as we said in the description.
• 52:18
  Yeah so they this is like one of those very like quick signs
• 52:23
  about you know, this is definitely, they've got um some
• 52:30
  ties with Nazis. Yeah the guy ideology.
• 52:33
  Yeah, rooted in there and apparently there are some signs
• 52:36
  that are written in Swedish that hint to that as well.
• 52:40
  I don't speak Swedish so I don't know.
• 52:42
  Right. But that's what some people have
• 52:44
  said on the internet. Take that with a grain of salt.
• 52:48
  Okay. So what was the note stop and
• 52:52
  field comment drugs. Yes as basically the sex scene
• 52:56
  yeah we are introduced to ingmar though that is pele's friend who
• 53:01
  has also brought some guests along with him.
• 53:04
  So here's first of the things that I want to point out Is that
• 53:10
  they're all like learning each other's names and stuff, Dan?
• 53:12
  He's the only one who liked checks that she's getting the
• 53:14
  pronunciation, right? Yes.
• 53:16
  Liking my income are you know like she tries to make sure that
• 53:19
  she's getting that, right? They all do mushrooms.
• 53:23
  This is I'm going to give Christian his one sliver of
• 53:26
  credit that I give him the entire movie and it's that Danny
• 53:30
  is like I'm not in a place mentally or physically where I
• 53:34
  can do mushrooms and he's like, I will wait for you.
• 53:39
  Yes. We'll stay sober with you and
• 53:43
  what Mark is like, but we have to have the same trip.
• 53:46
  I was like well then you can wait too.
• 53:50
  This is the one and only time that I will say Christian is
• 53:53
  being a good guy. Yeah, I agree.
• 53:55
  Because I mean, you don't want to do mushrooms in a bad head
• 53:57
  space because that's how you have a bad trip as we see here
• 54:01
  very shortly. Yeah.
• 54:03
  So they started doing drugs and they're all having a different
• 54:07
  feelings about the trip. They're all enjoying at first
• 54:10
  and then yeah, Pele is a, he's talking about nature breathing
• 54:14
  within itself day, and he's just kind of looking around Josh's.
• 54:17
  Chill Christians shell. Mark is hyperventilating, he is
• 54:22
  enjoying it kind of but then like all of a sudden, a random
• 54:25
  guy walks by he's like, oh fuck a new person.
• 54:28
  I don't like new people. It's, like, lay down.
• 54:30
  Lay down, everybody. Come on, just please lay down
• 54:32
  with me and then he's, like, starts going off.
• 54:34
  He's like, I love you, guys. You guys are like my family,
• 54:36
  seriously and then family triggers Danny.
• 54:38
  She goes running, it basically ends up with her, like passing
• 54:43
  out in the woods, and they find her there.
• 54:45
  Six hours later and she had a good visual of her sister to
• 54:48
  there. They're so so yeah.
• 54:51
  It's the next day they are now marching to the actual site,
• 54:55
  where the festivities are going to take a chance and throughout
• 54:57
  all of this, I want to point out Mark, is paranoid about ticks
• 55:00
  and they're all giving him a hard time about it.
• 55:01
  I love that though. That's currently, this is like
• 55:04
  based on res or being really paranoid about 60, really?
• 55:08
  Yeah, I like to imagine that he's like doing this stuff.
• 55:12
  Like he's throwing this in himself like a delivering it
• 55:14
  like when they're doing that because re Asters probably just
• 55:16
  freaking out on said about 60 entire time.
• 55:18
  Yeah, yeah. Is a lot of the trivia.
• 55:21
  I know is like stuff that I've read over the years, so I can't
• 55:25
  Say this was like the freshest of memory, but I do think that
• 55:29
  some of it was at Living where people are trying to give him a
• 55:31
  hard time, oh, really? Yeah, I love that.
• 55:33
  But if you pay attention to mark for the rest of the movie, his
• 55:36
  socks are pulled over his jeans so I ticks can't get into his
• 55:40
  pants or shoes. It's a look but it's funny
• 55:44
  dialogue. Yeah.
• 55:46
  Even Josh Twins and on the ribbing to like he's kind of
• 55:50
  like making him. He's just trying to make him
• 55:52
  squirm a little bit. Yeah but they get to Orga.
• 55:56
  Yes. And they're all welcomes again.
• 56:01
  Danny says thank you or high or something and Swedish.
• 56:05
  She's so old in Sweden. Yeah they say she does
• 56:08
  technically correct. Yes.
• 56:11
  But she also says it in Swedish it, and she's the only one that
• 56:16
  does that. Which I find someone saying a
• 56:19
  bunch of anthropology students that are there to?
• 56:22
  I would say Joshua do it. Yeah.
• 56:24
  So here is the A thing I know with anthropology and sociology,
• 56:27
  there's like a whole debate about like, do you immerse
• 56:29
  yourself in or do You observe? But like, they are literally
• 56:32
  there in the community. They're sleeping in the same
• 56:35
  house at them. They are participating in the
• 56:36
  festival. At this point, you are immersed,
• 56:39
  learn some of the fucking language.
• 56:41
  Josh isn't really immersed in the experience from my bike.
• 56:46
  From watching this Eve really is observing and Danny is a
• 56:49
  Psychology major like she has no investment in this at all this
• 56:54
  real It's just like a tag-along vacation for her Christian,
• 56:58
  probably didn't give a fuck enough to even want to learn it
• 57:02
  and Mark is probably in the same boat.
• 57:05
  He's just kind of there. I don't even think he's a
• 57:08
  student. There is he like he doesn't even
• 57:10
  his thesis is never brought up once he is either a trust fund
• 57:14
  child. Yeah, it was not concerned about
• 57:16
  getting his degree or his like that friend, you have and you
• 57:21
  don't fully remember how you met them.
• 57:23
  You think at some point it was during college, but he's not.
• 57:25
  It in college anymore. So you don't know?
• 57:26
  Yeah, he's just hanging around there.
• 57:28
  Yeah. So yeah, we've got all of this,
• 57:32
  and there's like this moment to, or father odd comes over and
• 57:35
  Danny like comments about his like Garb.
• 57:39
  And he's like, yes, it's a girly, little dress and well
• 57:41
  blonde. He's talking about it.
• 57:42
  And then Josh like songs about some other community that
• 57:46
  dresses like that. Yeah.
• 57:48
  Odds. Like okay, yeah, cool also worth
• 57:52
  noting that he says, hello to all of them.
• 57:54
  And with Danny he gives her a hug and says, welcome home.
• 57:58
  See that's Interesting little detail sometimes that could just
• 58:01
  be like weird how people talk I don't know because like I mean
• 58:06
  we went to our nephews birthday this weekend and the Granddad
• 58:12
  there. Any time you come over to his
• 58:13
  house is your home now. Yeah.
• 58:16
  Like you know it's nice you know to have somebody say that but I
• 58:19
  do know you can. It can go either way.
• 58:21
  Yeah so they do their little welcome Fest.
• 58:23
  There will welcome ceremony belly makes a comment about this
• 58:27
  fire that's been going for as long.
• 58:29
  Long as he's been alive. It's all part of its part of all
• 58:31
  of their jobs to keep the fire going, which will be meaningful
• 58:34
  later. Yes.
• 58:37
  Okay. They sit for food.
• 58:43
  A man sings. He's like, giving thanks for the
• 58:47
  food and Josh's trying to ask what is being said and Pele is
• 58:52
  really just trying to flirt with Danny and like yeah, explain his
• 58:56
  community to hurt because he's the only like she's the only
• 58:59
  When he cares about knowing what's going on and Josh is
• 59:01
  like, hey, can you give me a trans or what's he singing until
• 59:05
  he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 59:07
  Okay, yes. Yes, honey.
• 59:10
  Beautiful picture. I love it.
• 59:11
  I'll put it on the fridge so my parents died.
• 59:14
  Yeah. So they kids are all playing
• 59:18
  this game called Skin, the fool and this redheaded girl that I
• 59:22
  swear can't be more than 14. I know her age.
• 59:25
  Like, how old is she? She just turned 16, okay, okay,
• 59:30
  as they make a mention of her like whenever Pele is talking to
• 59:36
  her. I think it's allowed to fuck.
• 59:37
  Yeah. They whenever he's talking to
• 59:38
  Christian because he's like, hey, she's taken an interest in
• 59:41
  you. She just got this thing, which
• 59:43
  means like you get at your 15th birthday and then, Year later
• 59:46
  for a year ago. So yeah she's 16 years old she
• 59:50
  looks she looks young 60 are, you know?
• 59:53
  Maybe we're just biased from watching movies all the time
• 59:56
  where they cast sixteen-year-old like they cast 25 year, olds a
• 59:59
  16 year olds. Well hopefully she's amazed
• 1:00:02
  because we see her naked and this yeah, I know.
• 1:00:06
  I'm just saying like she looks really young.
• 1:00:07
  Yeah. Christian.
• 1:00:08
  Decide he wants to play skin, the fool after Maya, kick some,
• 1:00:11
  which that's a little sus Pro. Yeah, but once he's up, Well,
• 1:00:16
  he's like, hey, Danny. Happy birthday.
• 1:00:18
  Here's a drawing. I did of you and it's actually
• 1:00:21
  really good drawing. Yeah, he's a good portrait
• 1:00:23
  artist and she says that it's really nice, especially since
• 1:00:27
  Christian forgot. And he looks.
• 1:00:30
  Oh my God. What?
• 1:00:33
  Yeah. Like he like looks just
• 1:00:37
  embarrassed enough to like, worry if he's overstepped, but
• 1:00:39
  also like he knows that Christian sucks recipes.
• 1:00:43
  Not surprised for some watching this.
• 1:00:44
  I never caught. Onto him, like, actually trying
• 1:00:47
  to Dylan some kind of romance with her and but I like the more
• 1:00:51
  I watch it. The more obvious it is like he
• 1:00:53
  definitely sets his sights on her.
• 1:00:54
  Yeah. And Danny.
• 1:00:59
  She's like, it's my fault. I forgot to remind him Danny?
• 1:01:03
  No, I want to look like I want to get a spray bottle and every
• 1:01:05
  time she says something like that, I want to spray her.
• 1:01:07
  You know your worth. I can just picture that.
• 1:01:12
  So police tell them that they're supported by Lumber linen and
• 1:01:16
  homeopathics, and they also like have a plant that can supply
• 1:01:19
  some power. I didn't catch.
• 1:01:21
  It was winter water. So that's how they support the
• 1:01:24
  community Connie and Simon, who are two other outside.
• 1:01:28
  Is that were brought there by ingmar are engaged ingmar tries
• 1:01:32
  to make it seem like him and Connie were a much bigger thing
• 1:01:36
  than they were. Yeah, Connie is not letting that
• 1:01:38
  shit flies. I got, I didn't know that was a
• 1:01:40
  days ago and I'm sorry, did I miss a day?
• 1:01:42
  And we weren't, we had decided to become friends.
• 1:01:46
  Yeah. Just now and then, she's like,
• 1:01:50
  how long have you guys been there been together and
• 1:01:53
  Christians, like, three and a half years?
• 1:01:54
  Because, I know, it's, it's for, it's been four years.
• 1:01:58
  Cheers. So yeah, there's been together
• 1:02:01
  like a significant amount of time.
• 1:02:05
  Do you like the juxtaposition of these two couples?
• 1:02:07
  Like the one that's very happily together and then these two are
• 1:02:11
  on there, like, final days. Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  We see a tapestry for a love spell, and then a bear and this
• 1:02:18
  is one of the best like comedic moments because like the Simon
• 1:02:23
  and Connie or like getting a tour from ingmar and they're
• 1:02:26
  like, oh, are we not going to talk about the bear?
• 1:02:28
  And he's like, It's a, I mean, it's a touch.
• 1:02:33
  I really? Okay, so we learn that.
• 1:02:39
  The Harga think of life like the season.
• 1:02:41
  So from age, 12 18 is the spring.
• 1:02:44
  It's when you're a child from age 18 to 36, is the summer.
• 1:02:48
  That's when you do your pilgrimage from ages, 36 to 54
• 1:02:52
  is the fall. That's where your, a laborer and
• 1:02:55
  then from age, 54 to 72 is the winter.
• 1:02:57
  That's where you're a mentor. And then, Danny says, what
• 1:03:00
  happens after 72 and pay like, I was, and I, you think it's joke?
• 1:03:06
  Yeah. That's I love that like, yeah.
• 1:03:08
  Yeah, makes a little motion, like, cut your throat type
• 1:03:11
  thing. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:13
  Hello Lauren. Well, Danny and Company are
• 1:03:17
  looking around, the communal, sleeping area.
• 1:03:20
  Pele, kind of pulls Christian at the side to remind her to remind
• 1:03:24
  him of Danny's birthday. And then apparently he had a
• 1:03:29
  slice of cake. Ready for him to this cake come
• 1:03:31
  from. I feel like Pele.
• 1:03:33
  Had it ready? Do you think so?
• 1:03:34
  Yeah, like they're walking in and Christians like a tale.
• 1:03:37
  Why do you have a slice of cake? And he's like, I'll tell you in
• 1:03:39
  a minute. Do you think though that he
• 1:03:42
  would give it to him if he's trying to win Danny over?
• 1:03:45
  Because like, this right here is like a solid move from him.
• 1:03:48
  He's like, hey, by the way, like you forgot her birthday, dude.
• 1:03:50
  He needed a like, yeah, but he knew Christian was going to
• 1:03:53
  half-ass it, like, he half-asses everything.
• 1:03:55
  Because what happens is, Like Christian, like pools, Danny
• 1:03:59
  into, like just barely outside of the doorway of this building
• 1:04:03
  and he tries to light the candle and this slice of cake, and when
• 1:04:09
  it's not working, he's like happy birthday.
• 1:04:11
  Fuck. It's not working and dangerous
• 1:04:14
  like plz just stahp PLS. Like, it's fine, blah, he tries
• 1:04:18
  to I say, oh, it's the we don't have any nighttime here.
• 1:04:22
  Like I just didn't realize it was today was like, oh sure.
• 1:04:26
  Oh yeah. He's a bad liar.
• 1:04:28
  Yeah. You just it wasn't even on your
• 1:04:30
  radar at all. Yeah.
• 1:04:31
  And fellas like, right tomorrow's the first, the big
• 1:04:34
  ceremonies that the stupa and Josh is like wait a real one.
• 1:04:39
  And I feel like he is A dick in this moment because he knows
• 1:04:46
  exactly what it is. Yeah.
• 1:04:47
  And I understand him not wanting to tell Christian because he's
• 1:04:52
  liking dangling. This stuff of it said.
• 1:04:55
  But Danny though of all people yeah he was the one in the
• 1:05:00
  apartment at the beginning of the movie.
• 1:05:02
  When he's like do we need to put our Sweden stuff away since
• 1:05:04
  Danny? Can't Swede with us in Sweden
• 1:05:08
  and then now he's like, hey Danny, you know how you have
• 1:05:11
  that whole suicide-murder trauma.
• 1:05:14
  I hope you've been dealing with this, if not, you're about to
• 1:05:18
  experience something just as fucked up.
• 1:05:22
  Yeah, baby. He's just smiling at the
• 1:05:24
  Horizon. So what is it?
• 1:05:25
  He's just keeps giving them a little look.
• 1:05:28
  So the next day, we see girls picking flowers backwards and
• 1:05:32
  this is another funny line from Mark, where he says I'm about
• 1:05:37
  like somebody should tell those girls are walking stupid man.
• 1:05:40
  Yeah and Danny like brings Christian is he cute little
• 1:05:47
  bouquet of flowers and Christians I got it.
• 1:05:48
  You think these backwards? And it's ha, ha ha ha.
• 1:05:51
  It's one of those moments. Is that you Revel in if you're
• 1:05:53
  in an abusive relationship? Yeah, things are nice.
• 1:05:56
  Little bit of normalcy. Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  So we see an old couple at the kind of the head of the table.
• 1:06:03
  The tables are all arranged in Ruins.
• 1:06:07
  But they're, you know, whatever the place of honor they do a
• 1:06:10
  chant and then a toast and then they're carried to the top of a
• 1:06:14
  cliff. So we see this crowd gathered
• 1:06:18
  around at the bottom of the cliff.
• 1:06:21
  A couple of them have a giant Mallet.
• 1:06:24
  Very weepy looking mouth. Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  And we see the old couple at the top of the cliff and you know
• 1:06:30
  what's coming like you just know but you can't look away.
• 1:06:35
  Yeah. Like they cut themselves and
• 1:06:38
  then they go and like smear their blood on a stone that has
• 1:06:41
  like a bunch of runes on them and then they go and pose.
• 1:06:46
  And then yeah, the old lady you love as she dabs.
• 1:06:51
  Basically, it's still very good. Dad.
• 1:06:54
  Yeah. And at that moment, she is like,
• 1:06:57
  okay. And then you can like Danny
• 1:06:59
  senses that's going to happen because she asks, grabs
• 1:07:01
  Christian. Yes, and then she jumps off and
• 1:07:05
  they have a little stone that there.
• 1:07:07
  I gets their target and she lands face first into the stone
• 1:07:12
  base explodes. She did it the smart way she did
• 1:07:17
  it, the smart way because my man comes up next.
• 1:07:21
  This guy does not know how to do this first.
• 1:07:26
  Like he is jumping into a lake. Let me put this into like I want
• 1:07:31
  to make this man. Look stupid right now.
• 1:07:34
  He has been a part of this place for years.
• 1:07:38
  How many of these has he attended?
• 1:07:40
  He knows how to do this. He should know how to do this,
• 1:07:42
  but he goes leg first. Jones of the lame ever see
• 1:07:48
  somebody dared him to do it. He's like fucking debt, probably
• 1:07:53
  like made The Pact when he looks like a teenager something to the
• 1:07:57
  person he made it with his like a year younger than him so he's
• 1:08:01
  like fuck he's here and so watching me so yeah yeah so then
• 1:08:06
  he falls down and because he's not dead, the Mallet people come
• 1:08:09
  over and take turns at the Malik sporting his face.
• 1:08:12
  Yes. Oh God.
• 1:08:15
  Edgar a man's skull. I like that as like a terrible
• 1:08:20
  for like, getting bludgeoned, like, exploding his wig exported
• 1:08:24
  to him. Yeah, it's yeah, it's visceral.
• 1:08:27
  I like, there's actually like a detail.
• 1:08:30
  Like, how they did this. I made like a, like a
• 1:08:33
  retractable face type thing. It can like reform back into
• 1:08:37
  like a normal face. If there's one thing re Aster
• 1:08:40
  loves its ahead prosthetic. Yeah, it's nice.
• 1:08:45
  So yeah. During this whole thing, they're
• 1:08:47
  like that audio is ringing because I guess like Danny's
• 1:08:50
  like panicking bad that you can tell like the subtitles
• 1:08:53
  especially tell you where all is being said, but Simon and Connie
• 1:08:56
  are freaking out with the or yeah, they're trying to get
• 1:08:59
  them. So they're saying, what the
• 1:09:00
  fuck. We need to stop them called
• 1:09:02
  ambulance. This is fucked and tells them
• 1:09:05
  they're all fucked numerous times.
• 1:09:08
  Yeah and this is where your sieve is like ingmar.
• 1:09:11
  Did you not explain this to them?
• 1:09:14
  And already going to explain Yeah, expect.
• 1:09:17
  Yeah, it's a genuinely surprised that they are freaking out of
• 1:09:21
  this event. Yeah, and she tries to explain,
• 1:09:24
  she is like, for us, it's an honor.
• 1:09:25
  Like they're happy to do this, we believe in life like a cycle,
• 1:09:29
  that woman, her name is syliva that baby over there.
• 1:09:31
  Not yet, born will inherit that name when people grow old we
• 1:09:35
  don't want our lives to spoil. We went to end it whenever we
• 1:09:39
  like are still good and I feel like this is a I'm not going to
• 1:09:46
  get into the philosophy of an electing yourself.
• 1:09:51
  That's a very complex topic that we do not have the space for in
• 1:09:57
  this podcast today. Yes, episode this time, however,
• 1:10:04
  this reframing of it, As something that can have.
• 1:10:11
  A silver lining to it, I think ends up being important to
• 1:10:16
  Danny. Yeah, because the trauma that
• 1:10:19
  she went through with her sister doing this to herself.
• 1:10:25
  I think it gives her a way to reframe the way she Is
• 1:10:32
  processing all of that. Wow.
• 1:10:34
  You know I never even thought of that but you're right like this
• 1:10:37
  gives her a whole new perspective on the whole thing.
• 1:10:40
  I mean it's not like a murder-suicide type thing but
• 1:10:43
  like again this is not condoning or condemning it.
• 1:10:48
  No they just. Yeah, it's giving her, like I
• 1:10:50
  said, furthering like her plot, like her getting sucked into
• 1:10:55
  this whole thing. Yes, exactly.
• 1:10:58
  And I think that's a big part. I think that's a big part of why
• 1:11:02
  Pele made sure that Danny was going to be there.
• 1:11:06
  Mark skipped out. By the way, Mark skipped out.
• 1:11:09
  What to go take a nap? Yeah, I think it's a big
• 1:11:12
  important. Thing, and I think it takes
• 1:11:15
  Danny will see several scenes. She's still freaking out about
• 1:11:18
  this partially because, yeah, it is a an upsetting ritual.
• 1:11:24
  Yes. For them to witness definitely
• 1:11:26
  strong sizing. Definitely Also, it's probably
• 1:11:32
  kicking up a bunch of Dusty uncomfortable memories for her.
• 1:11:37
  Yes. And I mean, like, kicking up
• 1:11:39
  dust, I don't mean that her memories are dusty.
• 1:11:40
  This is all very fresh, while they're walking away Danny's,
• 1:11:44
  like, I just need to really not be here and Christians.
• 1:11:46
  Just like, okay, bye. Take some time to yourself, he's
• 1:11:51
  excited about it. Because I mean, at this point,
• 1:11:54
  he's made the decision to base his thesis on the horta Yeah,
• 1:12:00
  just Midsummer here. Yeah, so while Danny is off, you
• 1:12:04
  know, having her Moment by herself yet again, she is silent
• 1:12:09
  freak-outs except when until she gets away and she has very
• 1:12:13
  explosive freak-outs. Yeah, Christian decides.
• 1:12:18
  Now is the time to confront and Josh, and he's like, hey, I just
• 1:12:21
  want you to know. I'm going to do my thesis here
• 1:12:24
  and Josh is like, what the fuck? And he was evil, you're doing
• 1:12:27
  all Midsummer traditions and this is where we kind of learned
• 1:12:31
  that Josh is being a little sneaky snake and he said, yeah,
• 1:12:34
  I'm going to do my thesis on Midsummer Traditions, but really
• 1:12:38
  he wanted to get as much information about horak as he
• 1:12:40
  could, because this is like, You know, a whole new community.
• 1:12:45
  He could get a lot of dangerous. Yes, thesis by talking about
• 1:12:50
  this unknown Community. Yeah, I mean, he has his own
• 1:12:53
  motives. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:12:54
  He's sneaky sneak too, but he's, you know, he calls out
• 1:12:59
  Christian, he is like, you know, I've had to hold your hand
• 1:13:02
  through every little bit. Look at this wonderful jstor
• 1:13:04
  reference, which I absolutely crack up on as a, as a nurse
• 1:13:09
  former grad student. Fuck you Travis.
• 1:13:12
  You're the one that called people nerds to begin with.
• 1:13:15
  I said that it wasn't the right terminology.
• 1:13:18
  Well, dude, we have a whole episode where we dedicated the
• 1:13:22
  term for Android, says nerds. It's just nerds are Helloween
• 1:13:28
  three nerd by. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:32
  It's a term of endearment in nerds, nerds are celebrated
• 1:13:36
  here. It's fine except for, you know,
• 1:13:40
  Christians being a bad right now because he's trying to leech Of
• 1:13:43
  Josh and I love the fact that Josh like flat-out calls and now
• 1:13:47
  this is like the only time anybody directly shits on
• 1:13:51
  Christian and I like tell him exactly how it is, like, because
• 1:13:54
  like the whole time, like people are kind of like it's like the
• 1:13:59
  politeness like, you know, you don't want to like outright
• 1:14:01
  address, the situation with him, being kind of like a piece of
• 1:14:04
  shit, but Josh like just like, rip the Band-Aid off and just
• 1:14:08
  slick, unloads on him, and it's incredible.
• 1:14:10
  And then we kind of see this happening throughout the Rest of
• 1:14:13
  the movie people like her baby him through his bullshit and
• 1:14:18
  it's kind of nice. Let's watch.
• 1:14:20
  Yeah, yeah. So it's and this scenes extended
• 1:14:25
  to in the director's cut. Yeah, it is.
• 1:14:28
  Yeah, they, I mean, basically, it all ends with Christian just
• 1:14:33
  came to him because he wanted to collaborate, you know, again,
• 1:14:36
  ride the coattails of Josh's research, basic I'm doing it
• 1:14:41
  anyways. You know, I don't care how you
• 1:14:43
  feel about it and he walks out and then marks, like, dude, you
• 1:14:46
  let me miss that because he who just learned from Connie and
• 1:14:50
  Simon Simon that. I was, you know, a bunch of
• 1:14:53
  people, jumping off of a cliff crochet, goes to talk to Allah
• 1:14:56
  and Maya about this tree that they're decorating.
• 1:15:00
  And then he asks about the at the stoop on and I think it's
• 1:15:05
  really funny watching him do all of his research questions
• 1:15:08
  because he's got nothing for paired.
• 1:15:10
  He's just asking things as They come to mind.
• 1:15:13
  He's not taking notes. The older lady in the
• 1:15:15
  background. I can't remember her name with
• 1:15:17
  the bangs. Yeah, she is like Try not to
• 1:15:22
  laugh at you. See the smirk on her face?
• 1:15:24
  Yeah, I didn't notice that until you pointed yes.
• 1:15:27
  Last time I think it's great. Josh until a talk and Josh is
• 1:15:31
  like you know trying to make sure that he's got dibs on it
• 1:15:34
  and fell a is like well the elders aren't going to approve,
• 1:15:37
  anything being written down and Josh was like so I use aliases
• 1:15:41
  and he was well then you can't even get it.
• 1:15:42
  Peer-reviewed. So what's the point and then and
• 1:15:44
  Pella is like you guys are gonna die.
• 1:15:46
  I don't want to have to have this conversation with you.
• 1:15:49
  I want to go talk to Dan You're blocking me and he's like, fine,
• 1:15:53
  I'll go. I'll talk to them which you
• 1:15:55
  know, if that's the case, if you know, you're going to kill them
• 1:15:58
  anyway. Just say, yeah, you can write
• 1:15:59
  down whatever you want. Not only that the like Josh
• 1:16:02
  calls them on like, he's like, and by the way, I Christian did
• 1:16:05
  talk to me about this and I told him the same thing I told you
• 1:16:08
  and then Josh is like, I thought you said you didn't talk to
• 1:16:10
  Christian and then this is when it's kind of unraveling for
• 1:16:13
  pele's AA. Fuck.
• 1:16:14
  I'll talk to them and he just walks away like yeah, he's got
• 1:16:17
  them both going on a y-yeah. And then he finds Danny is
• 1:16:21
  packing inside. That's all he really cares about
• 1:16:23
  it. Yeah.
• 1:16:24
  And then he talks to her and she's like, I don't know why I'm
• 1:16:26
  here, like I'm not into anthropology like you guys.
• 1:16:29
  I'm not a fucking nerd. Oh, wish she said that and you
• 1:16:36
  know he was like out of all my friends.
• 1:16:37
  I was most excited for you to come because I also have dead
• 1:16:42
  parents. Yeah, no, you need to hear this.
• 1:16:49
  He talks through. Like she's basically just says,
• 1:16:52
  what are we even talking about? Like, that's nothing to do with
• 1:16:55
  this at all. It's like, no, Denny trust me.
• 1:16:59
  I know what you've been through and he basically gets down to
• 1:17:03
  like, does he hold you, do you feel a hell?
• 1:17:06
  So, what he says is that his parents died in a fire when he
• 1:17:09
  was young and he's like, unlike you, I didn't have a chance to
• 1:17:14
  feel alone because I had a community here to support me.
• 1:17:17
  They held me. They helped me.
• 1:17:19
  Yeah. Do you feel held by Christian?
• 1:17:22
  Does he feel like home to you? And yeah, on the one hand, he's
• 1:17:26
  very obviously hitting on her, including like the hand-holding
• 1:17:30
  that is happening. Yes.
• 1:17:32
  But on the other hand, he does have a point like she's got
• 1:17:36
  nobody and it's you can tell it's resonating with her to like
• 1:17:40
  she's actually considering this like oh shit.
• 1:17:43
  I don't feel held by him. Yeah, that we see the bodies are
• 1:17:46
  on that fire. That it's everybody's job to
• 1:17:49
  keep going. It faces man.
• 1:17:52
  If you just see them, they like Cuts hardcore, zoomed in right
• 1:17:55
  on those faces. So, Christian finds Danny
• 1:17:59
  Outside Alone. This is another cutscene and
• 1:18:01
  she's like are you not bothered by what we just saw?
• 1:18:04
  He's like yeah, no. Oh man, it was a shock like know
• 1:18:09
  that was really really shocking. Like you can tell he's not a
• 1:18:14
  good actor. He's sucks man.
• 1:18:17
  And when she got to respect an accurate that can Fake bad
• 1:18:21
  acting, that's true. Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Yeah. I mean, he kills this role
• 1:18:24
  because he's the hateable guy all the way through and then he
• 1:18:27
  was like, but, you know, I'm sure they think that us taking
• 1:18:30
  our elders and nursing homes. His par Barrack to, you know,
• 1:18:33
  this is just a different culture.
• 1:18:35
  And it's almost like he's doing like, what about isn't to her?
• 1:18:39
  Like, you know, what about nursing homes?
• 1:18:41
  You know, like, just whatever like he's just, it doesn't
• 1:18:44
  really give a fuck. Like he really just like he's
• 1:18:47
  just, he isn't, he doesn't care. He's found a means to an end.
• 1:18:50
  And what he was you could tell during the at a soup on that.
• 1:18:54
  He was actually affected by like watching the deaths.
• 1:18:58
  But here like, it almost is like after seeing that like something
• 1:19:03
  clicked with him and he had like a disconnect like he separated
• 1:19:07
  Humanity from this right here. He's like.
• 1:19:09
  All right, I'm just going to watch this and you know, if
• 1:19:13
  these people will die in the process, you know?
• 1:19:16
  All right, I'll have some interesting material to write
• 1:19:18
  about. Hmm.
• 1:19:19
  Yeah, I think. That's partly why he decides
• 1:19:21
  that he's going to write his thesis about this because he's
• 1:19:23
  like, oh, this is a thing that people don't hear about a lot.
• 1:19:27
  So, yeah, I'm gonna have new information.
• 1:19:31
  Like he wants to be first on the scene.
• 1:19:33
  Yeah. And so they get taken to a
• 1:19:37
  special ceremony, it's by the river.
• 1:19:40
  They offer that decorated tree that we saw earlier gets thrown
• 1:19:44
  in there. And there's this whole, this is
• 1:19:46
  a completely new scene that yes, from the theatrical.
• 1:19:50
  And it's extended as context to what happens to Connie waiter to
• 1:19:55
  so they throw on the tree and there's it's like this whole
• 1:19:59
  there's so much pageantry to it because they have this whole
• 1:20:03
  speech but like oh my mother is still hungry but wha so this.
• 1:20:08
  Well Malachi comes forward. Hi this is name is actually bore
• 1:20:14
  but he looks like the ozone. I like hi.
• 1:20:20
  Keep quiet if you've been with us from the beginning.
• 1:20:22
  Yeah. If you know you know yeah and he
• 1:20:26
  liked offers himself and the adults clip weights to his
• 1:20:33
  ankles and giant ass Rock. A bigger Rock than Christian is.
• 1:20:39
  Yeah. And actually yeah yeah.
• 1:20:44
  Do they actually clip weights to his ankles like, oh what?
• 1:20:47
  I, okay, I miss that because I just saw them.
• 1:20:50
  Take this. The boulder like The Rock has a
• 1:20:52
  chain but it's not chained to. They don't want to go that far
• 1:20:56
  into this. They just like plump it on his
• 1:20:58
  belly and you've got a little like ankle chains on him and I'm
• 1:21:03
  assuming that's what the Rock is wrapped around.
• 1:21:05
  No, it's not. It's not attached to anything.
• 1:21:06
  I paid attention to the chain. It's just dangling.
• 1:21:09
  Promise like they're like, I don't know.
• 1:21:12
  What's the kid hits the bottom of the ocean?
• 1:21:14
  Like it. He's too stupid.
• 1:21:15
  Yeah, he's offering himself like and Then Danny like starts to
• 1:21:21
  speak up, but then somebody else is like, no, he's shown his
• 1:21:25
  bravery and that is more than enough.
• 1:21:27
  So I'm confused. Would they have actually done
• 1:21:30
  this had she not spoken? Not do you think?
• 1:21:33
  Because I mean, like she said, like it's it's almost like a
• 1:21:36
  little play that they're doing, you know, I don't think they
• 1:21:39
  would have. I think that, they fully
• 1:21:41
  intended like this is a ceremony that they do, but it was
• 1:21:44
  intended to be one of the outside sacrifices all along.
• 1:21:48
  Yeah, I see. So after this scene day in
• 1:21:53
  Christian have like a fight outside and Danna it is like she
• 1:21:59
  gets what's happening. She's like, they are never going
• 1:22:01
  to let you guys write about this.
• 1:22:03
  They don't want people, she's like, they are doing Pagan
• 1:22:06
  rituals. They are counting on the outside
• 1:22:09
  world never finding out. How are you this stupid?
• 1:22:13
  And then she just like while Christian is all flustered she's
• 1:22:19
  suddenly like Like do you even love me anymore?
• 1:22:22
  And he's like, and she goes, yeah, we're in the devaluation
• 1:22:26
  phase and next comes discard is don't use your psychology words
• 1:22:32
  on me which that pisses me off because he was like trying to
• 1:22:35
  use his whole anthropology. So if on her earlier and she was
• 1:22:38
  upset about that to stupin like don't downplay what she's
• 1:22:43
  studying and then you know, because she she's just like
• 1:22:48
  that. I mean we've been growing apart.
• 1:22:50
  Long time and he doesn't have anything to say so he starts to
• 1:22:53
  walk away. But instead Of pulling Danny
• 1:22:58
  McBride and deciding. He's too far away, he does turn
• 1:23:02
  around and comes out his. And by the way when you do
• 1:23:05
  things like give me flowers, I know exactly what you're doing
• 1:23:09
  and she's like, what? He's like it just reminds me
• 1:23:12
  that I never do nice things for her and she's like, what the
• 1:23:14
  fuck are you talking about? Like oh like those flowers that
• 1:23:16
  you gave me earlier. You don't think that that's a
• 1:23:18
  jab in my face about how like I don't do little things for you
• 1:23:21
  because I just picked some fucking flowers.
• 1:23:24
  Like I did like I wasn't In there was no thought other than
• 1:23:27
  I thought it would be like a nice thing to do.
• 1:23:29
  He's like yeah right you're just rubbing it in my face.
• 1:23:31
  How thoughtless I am like this is this is a classic like abuser
• 1:23:37
  tactic like just turn in something completely innocent on
• 1:23:42
  its head to. Yeah yeah so it's just fuck
• 1:23:45
  Christian and there are a lot of people that were upset about the
• 1:23:51
  this cut of the movie. Making him look like so much of
• 1:23:53
  a worse guy and I'm like all these Clues were already.
• 1:23:56
  Be there in the theatrical cut. Yeah, it didn't really have any
• 1:23:59
  redeeming moment in the theatrical cut, other than the
• 1:24:02
  moment with the mushrooms, which I will give him credit for.
• 1:24:04
  Yeah, I mean and it's not needed, but it definitely does
• 1:24:08
  like flesh it out a little bit more.
• 1:24:10
  Like, you get to see the whole like, deterioration of the
• 1:24:13
  relationship, which it helps with the upcoming scenes, where
• 1:24:17
  Danny does start speaking up more and more to him.
• 1:24:19
  Yeah, it's not like, it's not as sudden yeah, like, because like,
• 1:24:22
  it's the next morning after this and then they're like, hey, I'm
• 1:24:25
  sorry about last night. I like, you know.
• 1:24:27
  Yeah, like they're making out there trying though.
• 1:24:29
  I get on with the relationship still but let's see what happens
• 1:24:32
  next. That night.
• 1:24:34
  Maya puts a love Rune under Christians, better, Christians
• 1:24:39
  dad. And then Danny has her dream
• 1:24:42
  that everybody leaves without her.
• 1:24:44
  No, yeah. And I like that scene because
• 1:24:47
  like, this shows Mark, he's like staring from the back seat,
• 1:24:51
  which he totally would, and he's got the physical.
• 1:24:54
  He's like, I'm amused by The fact that they're leaving Danny
• 1:24:57
  Vine. Yeah and she spits out smoke.
• 1:25:00
  So the next morning we learned that Josh and Christian both get
• 1:25:05
  approval to write about their thesis as long as they don't use
• 1:25:07
  real names and don't take any pictures.
• 1:25:10
  We find out that Maya is a legally allowed to have sex we
• 1:25:16
  see Dean and Christian makeup. And then Mark pisses on the
• 1:25:22
  incest real tree. Yes.
• 1:25:24
  The thing about the pictures though, when they first got
• 1:25:28
  there. Josh asks, can I take pictures?
• 1:25:29
  And Pele says. Yes discreetly.
• 1:25:31
  So he does kind of like sneak them but as like I noticed in
• 1:25:35
  this like as the movie goes on Josh gets more like was like
• 1:25:40
  Brazen the right word. Like you you see him like just
• 1:25:42
  holding his phone out just like yeah, boarding everything.
• 1:25:45
  Yeah, it's not discreet about it at all.
• 1:25:46
  Yeah he's that guy who puts five minutes of a concert on his
• 1:25:49
  Tic-Tac. And it's a Snapchat or Instagram
• 1:25:51
  stories or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:53
  I mean that's I mean, I understand him trying to
• 1:25:56
  document it for his whole thing which I'm sure is important.
• 1:25:59
  But it's all like very minor details but then again, it's not
• 1:26:03
  shitty quality. Pictures to though, not only
• 1:26:05
  that, but I mean, it's kind of outright going against the will
• 1:26:08
  of these people. They don't want to be recorded
• 1:26:11
  Mark pisses on the tree. Yeah.
• 1:26:13
  And wolf. Is he swears Vengeance on him
• 1:26:19
  for Rest of the movie like, is for the rest of the time.
• 1:26:23
  Mark is on screen office in the background.
• 1:26:26
  Staring him down. Yeah, it's the ancestral tree
• 1:26:30
  and apparently it represents like all of the dead from their
• 1:26:33
  ashes are all scattered there. Yeah.
• 1:26:36
  But it really is the equivalent of pissing on a gravestone.
• 1:26:39
  Yes, it is. And Mark has no way of callous
• 1:26:42
  about it. He, I mean, I have no way of
• 1:26:45
  knowing about it, but once he's told he has absolutely zero
• 1:26:49
  remorse. Yes, that's true.
• 1:26:51
  It would be one thing if he's like, oh fuck, I am so sorry.
• 1:26:54
  I feel so bad. What can I do to make up for it?
• 1:26:56
  And he's like, all right, but you guys really need to get over
• 1:26:59
  it also who goes and pees on a tree out in the middle of
• 1:27:02
  everywhere, they have fucking bathrooms.
• 1:27:04
  They're not, people are like, pissing and shitting on the
• 1:27:07
  fields out there. Like, I'm not like looking in
• 1:27:09
  the background and seeing somebody out there doing that
• 1:27:11
  all the time. Like he, he made that decision
• 1:27:14
  to piss publicly. So yes, office sworn Revenge.
• 1:27:22
  Yes, Connie is panicking because Simon is gone.
• 1:27:27
  They were supposed to leave together and yeah, who is it?
• 1:27:31
  Father odd is, like, Ian drove him to the station.
• 1:27:35
  There wasn't room for both of you.
• 1:27:36
  We obey traffic laws so you can do sat on his lap.
• 1:27:39
  We'll come back and get you. It's a 90-minute trip, you might
• 1:27:43
  not make it before the last train of the day and she's like
• 1:27:45
  I do not like a single word that you're saying she's like that
• 1:27:48
  doesn't Anything. Yeah, and she's the last and he
• 1:27:50
  sees of her, she's freaking out about all of it.
• 1:27:53
  She doesn't like runs off on her own.
• 1:27:54
  Yes. Christian is asking more awkward
• 1:27:58
  questions. He's not a very good interviewer
• 1:28:00
  in any way shape or form, but we do learn that traits shown is
• 1:28:05
  kids determine their jobs as adults.
• 1:28:08
  So like Ulf showed like protectiveness.
• 1:28:11
  And now he's like a guardian and a doctor, well, showed an
• 1:28:14
  interest in trees and dead trees, but I do find that it's
• 1:28:18
  interesting. Thing, because they said that
• 1:28:20
  even as a child fell, a always had a good Instinct for people
• 1:28:23
  and that's something that comes up a lot throughout this because
• 1:28:26
  he brought in New Blood to the community and what is he
• 1:28:29
  studying in his American School anthropology?
• 1:28:33
  Interesting, I never really thought about that.
• 1:28:35
  Yeah, they also reveal the Oracle to yes.
• 1:28:40
  So, we okay, one little quick scene right before this, is that
• 1:28:46
  Danny gets pulled in, to help with dinner.
• 1:28:48
  Like Some of the women invite her and she very willingly does
• 1:28:52
  so because hey, she's here, she's a part of this community
• 1:28:55
  for this week and she's like, you know what?
• 1:28:56
  I will help with dinner and the women all seem to be really
• 1:28:59
  excited to have her in there. They all complement her, their
• 1:29:02
  love-bombing her and we see sieve outside staring through
• 1:29:06
  the window watching. Danny acclimate really I didn't
• 1:29:09
  notice that. Yep.
• 1:29:10
  Oh and also because she's doing that Christian is going around,
• 1:29:14
  interviewing people. Same thing with Josh and Marcus
• 1:29:17
  kind of like awkwardly. Vaping out in the field making
• 1:29:20
  eye contact with that girl, that keeps looking at him.
• 1:29:23
  And then they all hear a scream from a woman.
• 1:29:25
  Yes, which is assumed to be kind.
• 1:29:28
  Yes. So father out explains to Josh
• 1:29:32
  about the Revere outer. There are 16 FX represented by
• 1:29:36
  ruins from most to least holy. He describes it as emotional
• 1:29:40
  sheet music. Each year, they had our each
• 1:29:42
  generation. They have an oracle, somebody
• 1:29:45
  who has unclouded judgment. Who is the deliberate product of
• 1:29:50
  inbreeding? Yeah.
• 1:29:52
  So he's like mentally disabled and basically what he does is
• 1:29:56
  you just takes paint and just kind of like does like Paintings
• 1:30:00
  on. Yeah pages.
• 1:30:01
  And they like, they interpret it from.
• 1:30:03
  What? He paints.
• 1:30:04
  Yes. At dinner.
• 1:30:06
  We see everybody's got their little meat pies.
• 1:30:09
  And I will lemonade Christians is a little special.
• 1:30:13
  He got the double whammy. Yeah.
• 1:30:15
  So is this some strawberry lemonade?
• 1:30:18
  This woman is move the pink and his pies a little bit pupae
• 1:30:23
  because it is a bite of that pie.
• 1:30:27
  Like, there's a single like little Curly hair and then they
• 1:30:30
  all recognized his pubes and I do that's a fucking pube but
• 1:30:35
  nobody notices that his drink is like redder than anybody else's
• 1:30:39
  and what's important is in the love spell.
• 1:30:41
  Tapestry that we saw earlier the love spell involves a woman
• 1:30:48
  clipping her pubic hairs and putting it in the man's food and
• 1:30:51
  putting her menstrual blood and his drink and then they and she
• 1:30:54
  puts a rune under his bed as he sleeps, and then they fall in
• 1:30:57
  love and she gets pregnant and that's what this woman is.
• 1:30:59
  Doing the Christian this whole movie.
• 1:31:01
  Yes, she's like making this child.
• 1:31:04
  Yes. The 16 year old child, she is
• 1:31:06
  making a love potion for Christian.
• 1:31:09
  Yeah, this point Connie is no longer there either.
• 1:31:13
  Yawns, is that? Oh, Simon called from the train
• 1:31:16
  station and calmed her down? And then he's like, I don't feel
• 1:31:20
  like that's true and she's just kind of like, they're all kind
• 1:31:23
  of sitting there quietly awkward, like, Mark once wants
• 1:31:27
  to go have her, show me. She's going to show me a lot, I
• 1:31:33
  love randomly doing that like, hey, can I show you something?
• 1:31:35
  Like she's gonna show me? Yeah, Josh is fixated on the
• 1:31:41
  Ruby router Christian, just a pubic hair and he's not sure how
• 1:31:46
  much more was in there. He's also trying to interview
• 1:31:48
  people, still awkwardly and Danny just like just kind of
• 1:31:53
  says that lad. I could see you doing that
• 1:31:56
  Christians. Like when she's like, I can see
• 1:31:58
  ya and he Like, are you serious? She's like, he's like, what the
• 1:32:02
  fuck is that supposed to mean? You know what?
• 1:32:04
  I means bitch. Like right there.
• 1:32:06
  Yeah. That's when like Danny made her
• 1:32:09
  transition into just being done with Christian basically so that
• 1:32:14
  night, Josh goes to sleep with his sneakers on and he sneaks
• 1:32:18
  into the temple and is taking pictures of the Ruby router,
• 1:32:21
  which he was specifically told not to do.
• 1:32:24
  Yes, because he asks, father, Todd said absolutely not freaked
• 1:32:29
  out when Are you asked? Yeah, it was almost like he was
• 1:32:32
  tempting him. Like, no, you can't sink any big
• 1:32:35
  shit's, not in my root beer attic.
• 1:32:40
  So he's in there, he's taking pictures.
• 1:32:43
  And then suddenly the door opens and then it looks like Marc
• 1:32:46
  Marquez, straight up, Donald Duck, and he's got his dick out.
• 1:32:51
  But somebody else all of a sudden comes over from the side
• 1:32:55
  and hit something like, listen, here's the thing, I get that was
• 1:32:58
  supposed to be York's face. But no way are those marks.
• 1:33:03
  Little chickeny legs. Those are some muscular thighs?
• 1:33:06
  Yes, no, it's big. Okay, it's dark out so he can't
• 1:33:10
  fully. See, he sees the silhouette but
• 1:33:11
  he also gets like a very like sweat image of marks face
• 1:33:15
  somebody comes from the side and bonk some with the Mallet and
• 1:33:19
  then like, you see much gentler. What have saying, what happens?
• 1:33:23
  Yeah, whoa, okay. Hits, his head is about to get
• 1:33:26
  exploded. Also, but before that happens,
• 1:33:29
  the I is wearing marxists face like his skin basically skin the
• 1:33:34
  full. Yep.
• 1:33:36
  And it's really creepy goes for whether face on them but yeah
• 1:33:39
  they bash his head I always think of it more because
• 1:33:41
  Leatherface has like sewing skills involved.
• 1:33:44
  I was thinking more of Devil's Rejects.
• 1:33:48
  Yeah yeah probably more. I think it's a combination what?
• 1:33:52
  Whether face puts a little bit more effort into it.
• 1:33:55
  Yeah, well whether faces is more terrifying.
• 1:33:58
  Yeah. Is this right here is just
• 1:34:00
  straight up, like, wearing ya fool skin.
• 1:34:03
  So the breakfast, the next morning and Josh and marker,
• 1:34:07
  both missing, and the Ruby router is also missing.
• 1:34:10
  And then Christian, Danny and fella gets stopped after they
• 1:34:13
  drop off their breakfast plates and they're like, hey we're your
• 1:34:17
  friends and crew goes, I just want you to know.
• 1:34:20
  I've never seen that man before in my life, I do not associate
• 1:34:24
  with them as friends like he fully throws him under the bus.
• 1:34:29
  You can see both DNA and Pele are both so disgusted with him.
• 1:34:33
  I think father art is also a little bit, put off.
• 1:34:35
  It's like fuck, man. Like I know who it was.
• 1:34:39
  Like, I know who you are, you suck.
• 1:34:41
  Yeah, and tell he's like, I'll go look for the Ruby router and
• 1:34:47
  father is like, yeah, go ahead and do that Danny.
• 1:34:50
  You go with the women, Christian says wants to speak to you.
• 1:34:56
  It's like dear God. I hope this is the last time we
• 1:34:58
  speak. So Danny gets enlightened gets
• 1:35:03
  dressed. She gets her hair done because
• 1:35:05
  pretty little flower crown. And all of these dresses, I'll
• 1:35:09
  have like their own individual rooms and they're all supposed
• 1:35:11
  to represent the stories of the people wearing them really.
• 1:35:15
  Yeah Danny's got specific runes on her dress and her zurs if I'm
• 1:35:20
  remembering right I want to say it's like something about family
• 1:35:22
  and inheritance so interesting. Yeah that's that's nice little
• 1:35:26
  details. Yeah so they Drugs.
• 1:35:30
  So they can go dance around the maypole.
• 1:35:33
  Yes. Meanwhile Christian is having
• 1:35:36
  his discussion with Steve. Basically.
• 1:35:39
  She just spells it out like hold on.
• 1:35:42
  They're sitting like with their faces.
• 1:35:46
  Six inches from each other. Yeah, it is the most I like the
• 1:35:50
  chairs. They have fifth.
• 1:35:53
  They cannot both sit down at the same time and like they stand in
• 1:35:57
  between them together and they cannot sit down at the same
• 1:36:00
  time. They should has to sit down
• 1:36:01
  first and then since it's down there uncomfortably close.
• 1:36:04
  It's a it's almost like an intimidation move on her part
• 1:36:08
  and she's like, hey, you know what's that redheaded?
• 1:36:11
  Shout out there. You motherfucker and he's like,
• 1:36:15
  I think I hate her pube and she says that's probably right
• 1:36:19
  sounds about, right? You guys are perfect.
• 1:36:22
  Astrological matches and he's like, what?
• 1:36:26
  And she's like do you want to meet with her?
• 1:36:29
  And he was like, I'm here with somebody Danny, she's like, I'm
• 1:36:33
  not asking you to get married, you would never be approved for
• 1:36:36
  that. But what do you call it as
• 1:36:41
  anything to do with him? Also being I think it has to do
• 1:36:45
  with him being white. Yeah, probably.
• 1:36:49
  But she also mentions that she's like you can use it for your
• 1:36:53
  studying at. You can be immersed in this
• 1:36:56
  object, you can learn about our sexual activities and he's like
• 1:36:59
  can I witness the sex rights without being involved and the
• 1:37:02
  scene Cuts away? But you know that the answer is
• 1:37:04
  no. Yes and he goes and joins them a
• 1:37:09
  queen celebration. So basically it's a test of
• 1:37:12
  endurance. Else.
• 1:37:13
  They just dance until they drop the around.
• 1:37:15
  A maypole around going in circles.
• 1:37:17
  Yeah. So they're getting dizzy their
• 1:37:20
  drugs. They're all giggling and having
• 1:37:22
  fun. It's probably rigged and Danny's
• 1:37:24
  favors where I was going to ask. Like, most people assume it is
• 1:37:27
  seems like it but why would I mean do they need it to be an
• 1:37:30
  outsider like that doesn't make any sense to me.
• 1:37:32
  I think a big part of it is because it put because the ninth
• 1:37:37
  sacrifice is chosen by the May Queen.
• 1:37:40
  So I think putting her in that position where she Like has to
• 1:37:43
  make that decision. She was like, think it also puts
• 1:37:47
  her in a position where she feels.
• 1:37:50
  Like she is more obligated to stay.
• 1:37:52
  Yeah, probably. She's more obligated to say
• 1:37:54
  again. It's also more of that
• 1:37:55
  love-bombing. Yeah, true.
• 1:37:58
  But she actually ends up winning.
• 1:38:01
  So while she's doing this though Christian sits down next to Pele
• 1:38:07
  and Ola comes over with Some spring spring while drugs, she
• 1:38:13
  causes spring water with the special properties.
• 1:38:16
  Yeah. And he was like, no thanks.
• 1:38:18
  I'm worried about having a bad trip because I you know be fun.
• 1:38:21
  She is actually incredibly honest about because he's like
• 1:38:25
  what is this? There was this doing he's like
• 1:38:27
  she's like in additions. Yeah, it basically breaks down
• 1:38:30
  your defenses like basically we want to influence you to fuck
• 1:38:35
  Roofing. You.
• 1:38:36
  Yeah. And I'm going to say this now, I
• 1:38:40
  hate Christian. I don't think anybody deserves
• 1:38:43
  rape is Punishment. No, it's definitely.
• 1:38:45
  It's fucked up. What is about to happen to
• 1:38:48
  Christian has definitely rape. I think everything that happens
• 1:38:51
  to Christian from here on out. Now is bad, even if he is a bad
• 1:38:55
  person, he sucks as an individual.
• 1:38:56
  He doesn't deserve to be raped and killed now, especially not
• 1:39:00
  the way he's killed. Yes.
• 1:39:01
  So he takes that and Danny is getting ushered away.
• 1:39:06
  They go to a dinner table. Whoa, whoa whoa, hold on though.
• 1:39:10
  Your No, well I didn't past pillai just walking up and
• 1:39:15
  platinum. Oh yeah, that one honor.
• 1:39:18
  Now Christian is behind us. The rest of the courgette have
• 1:39:20
  run to embrace Danny and take a picture and Christian sitting
• 1:39:24
  off by himself tripping balls. He's freaking out.
• 1:39:27
  Yeah, he doesn't know what's happening.
• 1:39:30
  They go to dinner Danny's at the head of the table.
• 1:39:33
  The table is a lot shorter. Now, I don't know if you
• 1:39:35
  noticed. There's much fewer people.
• 1:39:37
  Yeah, it's not even a Rooney more.
• 1:39:39
  It's just like a lion. Yeah.
• 1:39:42
  Christian is the only one not wearing white, and he turns to
• 1:39:46
  the guy next, this old man next to him and he says, what's
• 1:39:48
  happening in the old man claps it is.
• 1:39:51
  I love this so much, that is my favorite.
• 1:39:54
  Like just the fact that this guy knows that he's tripping.
• 1:39:57
  That's how you fuck with somebody that is on some
• 1:40:00
  psychedelic. And it's well-acted to buy Jack
• 1:40:03
  Rader here, because he goes, why did you do that?
• 1:40:08
  You can hear the fear and confusion in his voice.
• 1:40:11
  Well, I like the fact that they the way that they interpret that
• 1:40:15
  to from his perspective like a the clap happens, but it causes
• 1:40:18
  like Ripples and it's like slow motion.
• 1:40:21
  I give it something really trippy to him.
• 1:40:23
  Yeah. So Danny has to go bless the
• 1:40:28
  crops, the clean rides alone. She has to be in a carriage
• 1:40:31
  that's being pulled by these other women.
• 1:40:33
  I feel like the whole thing would go faster.
• 1:40:35
  If they all just walked, I mean, yeah, it's just a cool visuals.
• 1:40:38
  Like a fairy tales. Like this right here is straight
• 1:40:40
  up fairy tale. Women like mythology stuff.
• 1:40:43
  Yeah. And then everybody else
• 1:40:45
  wingman's Maya, so she can get some dick.
• 1:40:49
  Yes. Like they're like laying out a
• 1:40:50
  flower Trail to Christian like this would be so It's awkward
• 1:40:56
  for him or for her like for anybody.
• 1:40:59
  Like you go to your friends remote community in have to fuck
• 1:41:05
  his little sister and everybody is like guiding you there.
• 1:41:08
  Yeah. Like everybody's really
• 1:41:09
  pressuring it and she's also under age and she's underage and
• 1:41:13
  you're drugged yeah as this is all bad.
• 1:41:16
  Yeah and like the only like this it's It's a really like weird
• 1:41:23
  scene, it's fucked up because again, he is drugged, yes, it
• 1:41:27
  doesn't matter that he willingly took the drugs, you cannot
• 1:41:30
  consent Under the Influence like this, they also gave him the
• 1:41:33
  they give them another drug while he's walking in for
• 1:41:35
  Vitality which is basically like Viagra in like Steam for yeah,
• 1:41:40
  so he gets forced in there all of the women of the community
• 1:41:45
  are naked and singing and touching they titties.
• 1:41:48
  And She's just laying there in the center of the room.
• 1:41:52
  They unlike this program and they basically like he kind of
• 1:41:56
  just follows their lead and he goes there and he actually like
• 1:42:00
  starts to have sex and then it cuts back to Danny.
• 1:42:05
  She's blessing the crops. Yes, she's finishing that and
• 1:42:08
  then they're on their way back. As Christian is, I want to point
• 1:42:13
  out, is this scene finishes up as it transitions away?
• 1:42:19
  Ruben is Also in the room. Yeah.
• 1:42:22
  As it transitions away it's like a kind of transparent shot of
• 1:42:25
  Ruben and his nostril is right over.
• 1:42:28
  Cushions butthole. That's the real details, right?
• 1:42:35
  It's artistic. This is an art house film.
• 1:42:39
  This is what they mean by our house, strategic, but whole
• 1:42:43
  place. So Danny gets back and she
• 1:42:53
  supposed to go to sieve, that's like part of the May Queen
• 1:42:56
  tradition or whatever. And she hears, the sounds coming
• 1:42:59
  from this other building. She goes.
• 1:43:01
  What is that? And the girl?
• 1:43:03
  She's with is like, that is not for you.
• 1:43:05
  It's Collective moaning because they're all morning along with
• 1:43:08
  the girl and Danny knows. You can see it in her face.
• 1:43:11
  She knows what she's gonna go see.
• 1:43:13
  But she goes and looks anyway. Yeah.
• 1:43:15
  And she sees What's happening and she throws up and a girl
• 1:43:20
  walks through the throw up. I saw it.
• 1:43:22
  I saw you step in that vomit and they all take her back to the
• 1:43:27
  lake, the building, where the everybody sleeps in, and they
• 1:43:30
  try to get her into bed, so she can like cry it out and she
• 1:43:34
  like, is trying to walk away and they won't let her be alone.
• 1:43:37
  Yeah. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:43:41
  I do think this is part of a brainwashing tactic.
• 1:43:43
  Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:43:44
  Yeah. But I also think it's incredibly
• 1:43:47
  powerful, that for the first time in this entire movie, Danny
• 1:43:51
  has not been expected to handle the weight of all of these
• 1:43:55
  burdens on her own. Yeah.
• 1:43:57
  Because from the very first scene when she's calling her
• 1:43:59
  parents worried about Terry, you know, you get the sense that
• 1:44:02
  she's the one always trying to keep the family held together.
• 1:44:07
  Yeah. She doesn't want to burden.
• 1:44:09
  Ocean with her issues. Every time she has a panic
• 1:44:11
  attack, she goes off on her own. This is the first time that the
• 1:44:15
  people, she's with, have just cried with her and looked her in
• 1:44:19
  the face as she did it. And I want to say to that
• 1:44:22
  Florence Pugh had like, she had a wonderful time on this film
• 1:44:28
  and she talked about filming this scene.
• 1:44:30
  Specifically, she said it was one of the hardest days of
• 1:44:32
  filming, because they got really raw and emotional all of them
• 1:44:36
  together, they were all just gross and messy.
• 1:44:39
  And like, feeding off of everybody's energy.
• 1:44:41
  I'm sure. Yeah.
• 1:44:42
  Like, it's a really well active scene from everybody.
• 1:44:44
  Everybody does their part. Yeah, she said, it's one of the
• 1:44:46
  most intense change. She's ever filmed.
• 1:44:48
  I can see it. I mean, it's incredibly
• 1:44:51
  emotional. But yeah.
• 1:44:54
  So I feel bad saying about this because of the nature of the
• 1:45:02
  scene where he is drugged and everything it's kind of however
• 1:45:05
  you have referred to this in the past as the ultimate post nut
• 1:45:09
  Clarity is man he finishes and then he's like, oh my God, which
• 1:45:18
  is fight like this again. Is not consenting, you know,
• 1:45:22
  it's but he's like, yeah, it's really bad.
• 1:45:26
  I'm not gonna joke about that but his reaction on screen like
• 1:45:30
  the way. He like he kind of comically
• 1:45:32
  runs out of the building. He wasn't things, second he
• 1:45:35
  ejaculates. It's like he's in a different
• 1:45:37
  place. Yeah, like he's yeah, he
• 1:45:39
  finally. Oh, like, he's awakened like
• 1:45:42
  apparently, like having an orgasm like got rid of all the
• 1:45:47
  effects of the drugs, he runs out.
• 1:45:50
  And ye guess what? We get p p in a horror movie and
• 1:45:54
  PP Arrow here. Fake Mark, I know, but like we
• 1:45:57
  get daytime PP. Yeah, we've had, there's a lot
• 1:46:00
  of Today the Equal Rights nudity in this right here, we have
• 1:46:03
  plenty of Pep and plenty of boobies and even just straight
• 1:46:06
  up like all forms of genitalia. Yeah, I appreciate it.
• 1:46:11
  As he's running, he can't, he can't go back to where he just
• 1:46:14
  came from because. Yeah, my has and they're saying
• 1:46:17
  how she feels the baby already. That's not how that works.
• 1:46:21
  They don't emphasize sex at an orca.
• 1:46:23
  I think she seems she fellows his come inside her.
• 1:46:26
  No, she says I feel the baby? I think that's what it is.
• 1:46:31
  Well, she doesn't know the difference, she's yeah, yeah,
• 1:46:34
  okay, yeah, that's gross. So he can't go to the building
• 1:46:38
  because Danny's in there crying, and it's not liking me.
• 1:46:40
  Like, hey, can I squeeze past you to grab my clothes?
• 1:46:45
  Yeah, that would be awkward he so he runs towards the barn.
• 1:46:52
  Yeah, and while he's running, he passes Josh's foot just sticking
• 1:46:57
  out of the ground and the garden.
• 1:46:58
  And yeah, these any pauses for her.
• 1:47:00
  Second, when he goes into the barn, he finds Simon in the
• 1:47:04
  blood eagle. Like his lungs are pulled.
• 1:47:07
  There is debate about this scene about whether he is alive or
• 1:47:10
  not. And apparently, there was a
• 1:47:12
  actual torture technique where people would take their lungs
• 1:47:15
  and spread it on the body. Yeah, and keep them alive.
• 1:47:18
  But other people in like I can see it both ways.
• 1:47:21
  Like, it could be other drugs because throughout this movie
• 1:47:23
  when they're drugged, you see the environment?
• 1:47:25
  Just kind of moving like, whenever Danny was there eating
• 1:47:28
  the food was like, Seeing basically, it was breathing.
• 1:47:32
  Yeah. So you don't know what to
• 1:47:33
  believe here. Well, and I think it's also
• 1:47:35
  worth noting it kind of draws back to the beginning of the
• 1:47:37
  movie. When Danny is leaving that
• 1:47:40
  message for her parents, it kind of pans over them in the bed,
• 1:47:43
  and you can see her parents are still breathing, just a little
• 1:47:46
  bit. Oh yeah.
• 1:47:47
  Okay. So they were still alive when
• 1:47:49
  she called them, but I think I like subtle breathing.
• 1:47:52
  It was kind of a callback to interesting.
• 1:47:54
  I could see ya, but while he's looking at this, he gets drugged
• 1:47:58
  again. Yeah.
• 1:48:00
  And then he gets woken up. He's in like a little chair
• 1:48:04
  wheelchair. Yeah.
• 1:48:05
  And he's finally in some of the horta Garb.
• 1:48:09
  Yeah. And the, I can't remember her
• 1:48:11
  name. Oh, she basically walks up to me
• 1:48:14
  and she's like, hey, you can't move, you can't talk by and then
• 1:48:18
  just walks away. Yeah, and Danny's up on stage,
• 1:48:23
  just in like completely enveloped in flowers.
• 1:48:27
  Yes. So many flowers, iconic.
• 1:48:30
  Yes. It's amazing.
• 1:48:31
  I love it so colorful and so what they're doing is, they must
• 1:48:36
  surrender. Nine Lives is offering for every
• 1:48:39
  new blood. They're going to dedicate one of
• 1:48:42
  their own. So for of the new blood were
• 1:48:45
  brought in. So that is Simon Connie Josh and
• 1:48:48
  Mark for we're already dedicated to be a part of our to already
• 1:48:57
  dedicated. So that's the two people that
• 1:48:59
  jumped from the cliff. To volunteered and that's ingmar
• 1:49:02
  and Olaf. They basically did like a raffle
• 1:49:06
  for this exhibition ingmar and off, we're volunteers.
• 1:49:09
  What was the raffle them? The raffle was for the ninth
• 1:49:12
  volunteer or as for the ninth sacrifice so it was either going
• 1:49:16
  to be Christian. Hmm.
• 1:49:19
  Or it was going to be the person that was brought was chosen
• 1:49:22
  through Lottery. Okay?
• 1:49:24
  I got you and the person I wrote down his name is thorbjorn, 3.4
• 1:49:34
  parent or beard. It's okay for being okay.
• 1:49:42
  So okay, yeah. So Danny has to choose between
• 1:49:46
  them and honestly like I know some people think she did this
• 1:49:50
  out of Revenge and maybe there's a part of that and I think the
• 1:49:53
  medically it's very important that it shows her cutting off
• 1:49:55
  those ties. But I Also, like from a
• 1:50:00
  practical standpoint if she chooses thorbjorn.
• 1:50:04
  She knows she's gonna die, too. Right?
• 1:50:06
  Like, I don't know, right? Like what would happen if she
• 1:50:11
  didn't, would they try and integrate Christian into the
• 1:50:14
  community? And I don't think so when he
• 1:50:16
  just be killed either way, like that, that maybe he'll be there
• 1:50:18
  at that point. Why not?
• 1:50:19
  Just make it him? Why?
• 1:50:20
  I like, give the other guy, the option?
• 1:50:22
  Is it a test for Danny? I can't think it's.
• 1:50:24
  Yeah. It's like one, one last step to
• 1:50:26
  get her fully a part of the community.
• 1:50:28
  Okay, interesting. Ting.
• 1:50:29
  Yeah, she she chooses Christian and we see them preparing for
• 1:50:34
  this final ceremony. And so we see the bear being
• 1:50:40
  like, it's organs being removed and we see Christian getting his
• 1:50:43
  appendages removed. We see all the bodies being put
• 1:50:49
  into the Temple. Christian cannot move.
• 1:50:53
  Like he's had his arms and legs cut off, and we don't see it on
• 1:50:58
  screen, but we You see the garage as they sent him on to
• 1:51:02
  the table? Yes, like being wrapped around
• 1:51:04
  his his ankle and yeah, you're doing.
• 1:51:14
  The audition is. Yeah.
• 1:51:16
  So we do know that everybody's getting set up in Mar and ol for
• 1:51:22
  in there. They're given the snap of the
• 1:51:24
  yew tree told. There will feel no fear feel no
• 1:51:27
  pain. They say by Christian, you don't
• 1:51:30
  get any you. Yeah.
• 1:51:32
  Oh, and you also see Connie, being wheeled and she was, she
• 1:51:34
  sacrificed? Yes, she was the river
• 1:51:36
  sacrifice. Yes.
• 1:51:38
  So if you only saw the theatrical cut, you never know
• 1:51:40
  what happened to Connie. You just see her very
• 1:51:43
  waterlogged, body being brought into the temple.
• 1:51:46
  Yeah. But it provides context about
• 1:51:48
  what exactly happened to her. Yes.
• 1:51:51
  So they're all set up and the fire and the temple is set on
• 1:51:54
  fire and you see everything burning.
• 1:51:59
  Christian is burning. And like all you can really see
• 1:52:01
  is the panic in his eyes. He can't even scream.
• 1:52:04
  Yeah, he's completely paralyzed. Yeah, and then the Fire Hits
• 1:52:09
  wolf, has he a name are looking at each other and Olaf starts
• 1:52:13
  screaming in pain. I can see the fear in ingmar's
• 1:52:16
  eyes. Yes, freaking out.
• 1:52:18
  And then outside all of the horror Gus start convulsing and
• 1:52:22
  screaming as well because they all experienced these things as
• 1:52:25
  like a whole. Yes.
• 1:52:27
  And in that moment, Mint like Danny, like.
• 1:52:31
  She's freaking out to he's freaking out.
• 1:52:33
  And then she kind of accepts that she's with people that she
• 1:52:36
  can freak out with. Yes, exactly.
• 1:52:38
  It's with her. Like, just kind of like smiling.
• 1:52:40
  Yeah. She's happy.
• 1:52:41
  Now. She's found her people.
• 1:52:43
  Yep. And that's the end of the movie,
• 1:52:45
  that's the end. Okay.
• 1:52:48
  So wild fucking movie, do you feel any differently having
• 1:52:53
  discussed it? No, I love it so much.
• 1:52:56
  Okay, I don't either but I, you know, this actually Ali gave me
• 1:53:00
  new insight on certain things because like I just we've talked
• 1:53:04
  about this so many times, I feel like any time we talk about it
• 1:53:06
  like I'm learning more things about.
• 1:53:07
  Yeah, there's always new things to catch.
• 1:53:09
  Always new interpretations to make.
• 1:53:11
  You know, we've got we've got poor little Bear.
• 1:53:14
  Is this painting? That's in Danny's room at the
• 1:53:16
  beginning of the movie in her apartment.
• 1:53:19
  We've got that hanging in our living room.
• 1:53:22
  Yes. It's kind of a nod to the
• 1:53:25
  fairytale like nature of the movie.
• 1:53:27
  It was really cool watching that on them.
• 1:53:30
  See Like it was like directly underneath our painting.
• 1:53:32
  It was amazing. I've got the bear tattoo.
• 1:53:36
  And what I did was I have the bear in The Flames but it's also
• 1:53:39
  got the May Queen crowd on as kind of like, a reminder of like
• 1:53:44
  burn the toxicity, but don't get involved in other toxic shit as
• 1:53:48
  like a replacement. You know, toxicity comes in all
• 1:53:51
  forms. People always ask me why I have
• 1:53:54
  the flower crown on it and once I like that one, yeah, you have
• 1:53:58
  reasoning behind it. Well, and like, I joke around
• 1:54:01
  about this a lot, but I feel like it would be so easy to pull
• 1:54:03
  me into a cult specifically this one, because it's so pretty out
• 1:54:06
  there. Like, you don't have to deal
• 1:54:08
  with a Kana me like he's just yeah.
• 1:54:11
  Like I'm like, I'm like this seems really great.
• 1:54:14
  And then I have to like remind myself like I can't get rid of
• 1:54:16
  the toxic shit in my life by going on to other toxic shit.
• 1:54:19
  So the races also their racist. Okay yeah so I'm still 10 out of
• 1:54:27
  10. Okay, how does tell you feel
• 1:54:30
  about this one? Oh are you still 10 out of 10?
• 1:54:33
  Oh yeah, that's a nice and yes. Okay.
• 1:54:39
  The beginning of the movie tires, very concerned about the
• 1:54:41
  crying, every time there was crying careers would go back and
• 1:54:45
  she was like, very empathetic, she's the opposite of Christian.
• 1:54:49
  Yes, you cares. When you've jumps Talia.
• 1:54:55
  Also jumped tell he was. Yeah, she jumped when a murder
• 1:54:59
  there was. In fact, I think she also has
• 1:55:01
  some very intense Dreams. Yeah.
• 1:55:02
  And then, when pilate was given his being held speech, she was
• 1:55:06
  like, kicking you. Still held by me.
• 1:55:10
  Do I feel like homes? Hey, hold me right now so I
• 1:55:13
  think Talia also gives us a 10 out of 10.
• 1:55:15
  Okay. And Zoe did watch.
• 1:55:19
  Yes. She was only there for about
• 1:55:20
  half, but to be fair, that's an hour-and-a-half, which is the
• 1:55:25
  length of a normal movie. See ya.
• 1:55:26
  So she's a cat. She has the attention span, she
• 1:55:30
  has. She has the attention span of a
• 1:55:32
  cat. Yeah, okay.
• 1:55:35
  Alright, I'm curious to hear what review you pulled for us.
• 1:55:39
  Yes, and I will say there is nothing.
• 1:55:40
  I would change about this movie. Oh I would not change anything
• 1:55:43
  either. Okay, so I obviously I pulled a
• 1:55:49
  more negative review, but I wanted to get one that had like
• 1:55:52
  some different viewpoints than the ones I knew I was going to
• 1:55:54
  talk about at the beginning of this.
• 1:55:55
  Okay, so this is from IMDb. It's a user review as four out
• 1:56:00
  of ten and says not for everybody.
• 1:56:03
  Let me first say this is not a bad movie, it utilizes creative
• 1:56:06
  camerawork and cinematography to add to the narrative, but I
• 1:56:09
  personally still didn't like it. Its main goal in my opinion is
• 1:56:12
  to disturb the viewers much. As possible through the use of
• 1:56:15
  sound gory visuals in the feeling of isolation and
• 1:56:17
  Insanity. While I can see how this can
• 1:56:19
  speak to a certain audience. It didn't appeal to me and made
• 1:56:22
  me want to turn the movie, turn off the movie quite a few times.
• 1:56:25
  If you are into these kinds of films, definitely give this a
• 1:56:27
  try. But if you like me, enjoy being
• 1:56:29
  scared by a horror movie, instead of weirded out and
• 1:56:31
  disturb, this might not be for you.
• 1:56:34
  You know, I actually appreciate that.
• 1:56:36
  They recognize that this wasn't a movie for them.
• 1:56:39
  Yeah. A lot of people just outright
• 1:56:40
  give like negative feedback for something because it's not what
• 1:56:45
  they appreciate. Normally like I don't go into,
• 1:56:49
  like, I don't know. Something that what's up horror?
• 1:56:53
  Genre that I don't like Full court, but this is folk or well,
• 1:56:58
  what am I most full most folk? Or you don't?
• 1:57:01
  Like, I don't go into that and I'm not like this is a shitty
• 1:57:04
  movie. Like, nobody should like this.
• 1:57:06
  Like, with the, which I understand why people love that
• 1:57:09
  movie. It just doesn't appeal to you
• 1:57:11
  just. Yeah, to me like, I would kind
• 1:57:13
  of like what that person said. I wanted creepy witch and
• 1:57:17
  there's not very much of that in that but it has other things
• 1:57:20
  that terrify people and make people feel unsettled.
• 1:57:23
  I respect that this movie is very much.
• 1:57:25
  Same. And I'm just happy that they
• 1:57:27
  recognize that. Yeah and I mean I will say like
• 1:57:32
  it's a very atmospheric movie and if you're not pulled into it
• 1:57:35
  you aren't going to get as much out of it.
• 1:57:38
  Yeah, it isn't necessarily action-packed.
• 1:57:42
  It's a bunch of little moments its ass like, it's slow Burn.
• 1:57:45
  Yeah. It requires you to actually be
• 1:57:48
  like it's it's immersion. It's, you know, much like what
• 1:57:53
  you know, I was saying that the student the the students needed
• 1:57:56
  to be doing like we as an audience member to get as much
• 1:57:59
  out of it. Yeah, be immersed.
• 1:58:01
  Okay, so we got a couple of with some reviews here.
• 1:58:05
  Okay, all right. I will start off with M storm,
• 1:58:13
  okay? He says, I respect what it's
• 1:58:15
  done for her but I just don't like it.
• 1:58:18
  That's fair and I appreciate I can understand people not liking
• 1:58:22
  I appreciate you recognizing that it's had an impact.
• 1:58:25
  Yeah I agree. I mean like like I said before
• 1:58:28
  like it may not be for you but like it can still make an impact
• 1:58:32
  on horror and it can like influence horror movies in a way
• 1:58:36
  that you might appreciate a different type of film, you
• 1:58:38
  know, I can have that impact Michael Lee Howard.
• 1:58:42
  Okay. He says atmospheric grabs.
• 1:58:44
  Hold of you and doesn't let go even to the end.
• 1:58:48
  Antenna often, absolutely agree. This is one of those movies that
• 1:58:51
  sinks its teeth into my brain. Every time I watch it and
• 1:58:55
  Incredibly atmospheric I think, like it's, I don't know, just
• 1:59:00
  the way that it works is like a whole element part of the story.
• 1:59:04
  Like it's just amazing. It is perfection.
• 1:59:07
  All right, now we we have Amber. She says stressed and disgusted,
• 1:59:12
  the whole way until the end with the bear suit.
• 1:59:14
  Then I loved it interesting too. On it.
• 1:59:18
  Yeah, it is she said she would be, she said she had a very
• 1:59:22
  small text box to okay? Have right her view is so she
• 1:59:26
  said if we need clarification she'll gladly provide it, I told
• 1:59:29
  her she can if she will. So you know if I have that
• 1:59:34
  update I will provide that for next week's episode and I get it
• 1:59:38
  too and you know, maybe I'm extrapolating the wrong things
• 1:59:41
  from this but it is very stressful up until the end and
• 1:59:44
  then the bear suit is kind of a cathartic moment for us a not As
• 1:59:48
  an audience because we've been following Danny's character.
• 1:59:50
  Yeah. Because I mean, kind of like we
• 1:59:51
  said with what Arias or said like, you know, you're kind of
• 1:59:54
  there with her the whole way. There are you rooting for her
• 1:59:56
  that she's getting the resolution.
• 1:59:58
  Yeah, she's falling. Like you feel good for her
• 2:00:00
  there. Yeah.
• 2:00:01
  But I mean when you think about everything afterwards.
• 2:00:04
  Yeah. And it becomes even more of a
• 2:00:06
  horror movie when yeah of why. She, when she comes off the
• 2:00:09
  drugs, how she's going to feel? She's definitely going to be
• 2:00:12
  mated with Pelé. Yeah, oh my God, I don't even
• 2:00:15
  wanna think about that. And All right, and finally we
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  have Robert its own. Okay, he says.
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  So my favorite thing about Midsummer is how everyone
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  interprets it totally wrong, that director literally laughed
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  when an interviewer proposed it as a feminist movie.
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  He was like, oh, wow, that's how you interpret it.
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  Okay, I mean, I think that this movie, I mean, any movie,
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  really, like, it opens itself for interpretation.
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  I think people can take it. However, it is meant to them,
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  like, you can apply your own. Yeah, feelings towards it and
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  may not be what the director is going for.
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  But I mean, I feel like a lot of media like once you release it
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  out there and it has a certain effect on people.
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  If people kind of collectively, like take it as a certain thing,
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  I got think they can very much, you can have an argument for it
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  being that. But, you know, I think I think a
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  big part of what people see with that is that scene with all the
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  women crying together which is a very powerful moment.
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  Yeah, it's two-sided because I Said, it's also, you know, those
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  culty brainwashing moment. But I do think it's also
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  powerful to see her being lifted up by a group of women.
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  It's the first time she's been lifted up and the entire movie.
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  Yeah. However, when I think of
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  feminist films, this isn't the first one that comes to mind.
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  No. Because, I mean, this could
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  definitely be like the other way around, too, if you needed to be
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  like, yeah, it's swap the roles and swap the genders, and it
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  wouldn't make a difference like Danny and could very easily.
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  Easily be a man and Christian could be a woman and like you
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  can still have that emotional abuse and you can have.
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  I also just think that sometimes the bar is so low that if
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  something isn't misogynist dick, it's seen as feminist.
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  Yeah, which I mean, I don't know.
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  Yeah. If you take some like positive
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  feminists aspects from it, I don't think that there's
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  anything wrong with that. Yeah, I mean does again.
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  This is a discussion that we don't necessarily have the space
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  for on this podcast today. Yeah, because there's probably a
• 2:02:23
  lot of deep analysis we could do with it.
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  But yeah, I don't get the sense that that was re Esters goal
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  with most honest, most likely not.
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  But you know, I respect that people may see that in it.
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  Yeah, oh no. I definitely see the moments of
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  those kind of those interpretations.
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  I can see where those come from. But yeah, it's not.
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  The first thing that comes to my mind.
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  Jesse, who did you relate to? Do you have to think about this?
• 2:02:57
  Yeah, I related to Danny. Do you know any like say that
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  though? It just feels like the obvious
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  answer? No.
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  Okay. I mean, there's nothing wrong
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  with that. I mean if you relate to that
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  person, that's that's the game man.
• 2:03:10
  Yeah, I'll give a good answer. I relate to ingmar because I
• 2:03:16
  told you of one time like hey there's a bear and my backyard
• 2:03:19
  and you're like, you're just glossing over the fact that you
• 2:03:22
  have a bear there. And I'm like, yeah, I live from
• 2:03:25
  Southeastern Kentucky, like we have Bears here.
• 2:03:29
  You know, that's a good answer this.
• 2:03:31
  I mean, it's true. Like I mean, it's just that's a
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  bear, that's how it goes. Okay.
• 2:03:37
  Do we have any dream sequel ideas for this movie?
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  I want to say that. It's a perfect movie and doesn't
• 2:03:44
  need a sequel, but that's cheating at the rules of our own
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  game. It is no.
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  We need to. I don't care if it's stupid.
• 2:03:51
  So Danny realizes she fucked up. I want to see her as a mentor
• 2:03:56
  and her winter. Huh, when she's in her winter
• 2:04:01
  season from age 54 to 72? Oh, you think she's still there?
• 2:04:04
  Yeah. Okay.
• 2:04:06
  I was going to propose that she is.
• 2:04:07
  Like, it's like a Escape movie. Like, she's trying to break free
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  of the cult. I don't know that she would do
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  that until she's with the mentor stage.
• 2:04:15
  Oh yeah. Yeah, she's planned it out.
• 2:04:18
  Yeah. Like, she has to, like, she's
• 2:04:20
  there as they're pulling in more new people.
• 2:04:22
  She pulls somebody aside that she thinks like she sees herself
• 2:04:26
  and she's like, we need to get out of here.
• 2:04:27
  Yeah. That kind of thing.
• 2:04:29
  I can see that. All right.
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  Cool. All right.
• 2:04:34
  Well now we are officially done with this week's episode.
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  Okay. Hope everybody enjoyed it.
• 2:04:42
  Hope everybody is excited for next week's episode because
• 2:04:44
  guess what? Folks were going 824 again?
• 2:04:46
  Yeah, eggs gon give it to you, go to?
• 2:04:50
  Yeah? What less artsy-fartsy, we're
• 2:04:53
  going with. Ty, West X, I mean, I think
• 2:04:58
  They're still artsy-fartsy. It is ours and they're still
• 2:05:01
  slow burn because it's Thai fucking West.
• 2:05:04
  But it's a slasher and there's a lot of like nudity is it's about
• 2:05:08
  people making a fucking porno. Yeah.
• 2:05:11
  You know, like it. We also get peepees next week,
• 2:05:14
  peepees Galore like a 24 is all about PP.
• 2:05:19
  What's your least favorite scary movie podcast, bringing the dogs
• 2:05:22
  to you. What's your least favorite scary
• 2:05:24
  PP? The new name of the show, Scott?
• 2:05:28
  Scaredy's. Yeah, that's a shadow dong
• 2:05:35
  prosthetic PP. Yeah.
• 2:05:37
  Okay. We'll talk about that next week,
• 2:05:39
  but I'm excited for it. It's gonna be a good time.
• 2:05:42
  We're obsessed with this movie. We are, it's great.
• 2:05:45
  I mean, if you haven't watched it, people are going crazy about
• 2:05:48
  it this year. I think it's when it's going to
• 2:05:50
  be one of the best horror movies of this year and we're only
• 2:05:52
  halfway there, but I think it's going to have some yeah,
• 2:05:55
  anything else that comes out this year has really stiff
• 2:05:57
  competition already. Do I have by obler less shirt
• 2:06:01
  that you got for me for our anniversary?
• 2:06:03
  Yeah, I've been wanting one. And I made you listen to Mungo
• 2:06:07
  Jerry this morning, you see, I'm excited.
• 2:06:13
  I've been waiting to talk to Head West on the show for a
• 2:06:14
  while now, so it's going to be good.
• 2:06:16
  Don't think you can stream this anywhere for free.
• 2:06:18
  Currently, let me double check real quick.
• 2:06:21
  Okay, I got that. I needed to look that up.
• 2:06:23
  We're also doing next week is to be or not to be.
• 2:06:28
  Yes. And that's going to be Travis's
• 2:06:30
  pick. Yes.
• 2:06:31
  I'm excited. Obviously, don't know because we
• 2:06:34
  pick those on a whim. Yeah, so That'll be fun.
• 2:06:37
  Okay, so it's not streaming. So X isn't streaming anywhere
• 2:06:41
  but it is available for five dollars to rent through YouTube.
• 2:06:44
  Google play Voodoo or prime. Absolutely.
• 2:06:48
  Rent this movie watching with it.
• 2:06:50
  I mean, even if I mean, just, I would recommend it to anybody.
• 2:06:53
  It's a great movie. I mean, it's a slasher, but it
• 2:06:56
  is like a deep slasher and it's a no Maj to Texas, Chainsaw
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  Massacre and a lot of weight and just exploitation segmentation
• 2:07:03
  in general. Yeah, it's great.
• 2:07:05
  It's great. Eight.
• 2:07:07
  Also, we fully recommend to be as a streaming service to
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  everybody. It's free.
• 2:07:11
  There's a lot of interesting stuff there.
• 2:07:13
  Yes, I'm curious to see what Travis picks out.
• 2:07:16
  I was very own brand with what I chose last week.
• 2:07:19
  I was a little bit let down. Yeah, that's yeah.
• 2:07:22
  Okay. Well I hope I've got us a nice
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  little Jim. Yes.
• 2:07:25
  So and again if you follow us on social media you'll see what he
• 2:07:29
  ends up picking. Yes.
• 2:07:32
  Right in with your reviews for the movies.
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  Think of it. So we have you reviewed a rerun
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  Well be reviewing that way but until then we will see you guys
• 2:08:21
  next week. Bye.
• 2:08:38
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