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- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome on in this off edge me, your host Cam
- 0:08Speaker 1: Jordan's Ah, I appreciate y'all for tuning in. We didn't
- 0:12Speaker 1: catch a win this past week, but it's all right.
- 0:14Speaker 1: We're moving forward. I'm already looking forward to the San
- 0:16Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, where they may have some trouble
- 0:19Speaker 1: in their health depth chart coming up anyway, So like,
- 0:22Speaker 1: I like that for us. They got to flip up
- 0:25Speaker 1: the page the last couple of days, watch the film,
- 0:28Speaker 1: get after it. And now we're tuning in to the Niners,
- 0:31Speaker 1: Bang Bang Niner Gang. They gotta go down the Saints
- 0:34Speaker 1: way either way. I've got a special guest coming in.
- 0:36Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy who really started like a
- 0:39Speaker 1: memorable iconic SAX celebration as an edge guy, as a
- 0:42Speaker 1: defensive end. You know about the Jack Cameron now he
- 0:45Speaker 1: used to love that joint and you know with without
- 0:49Speaker 1: further adude talking about San Diego charge is great legend.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Sean Merriman University of Maryland product. I appreciate you coming in,
- 0:56Speaker 1: Big Dug. Appreciate it man. Thanks having me. Yeah, Bro,
- 1:00Speaker 1: Like I mean I just think about you know, just
- 1:02Speaker 1: just earlier playing days, Bro, you you was you was
- 1:05Speaker 1: jacked the way back there, so it only made sense
- 1:07Speaker 1: to come up with a celebration. Where'd the celebration come from?
- 1:09Speaker 1: Was that? Was that something you brought from University of Maryland?
- 1:11Speaker 2: It was before then actually, So in high school, I
- 1:14Speaker 2: end up knocking your four kids out, you know, my
- 1:16Speaker 2: sophomore year, and I went I actually go end up
- 1:20Speaker 2: going home that day and asking, well it was at
- 1:23Speaker 2: that that school. The next day on Monday when we
- 1:27Speaker 2: went to school, and I went home and asked my
- 1:29Speaker 2: mom because everybody just called me lights out, like you
- 1:31Speaker 2: knock those kids lights out?
- 1:33Speaker 1: And I didn't, you know, it was funny.
- 1:34Speaker 2: I didn't really expect for the cats like that, you know,
- 1:37Speaker 2: because when I went to school, it's like, yo, what's up?
- 1:39Speaker 3: Lights It caught on that fast.
- 1:41Speaker 2: I went home and this like before social media, before
- 1:44Speaker 2: like all that your YouTube, So it wasn't like out
- 1:46Speaker 2: there like it was just in school. I went home
- 1:48Speaker 2: and I asked my mom. It's like, yo, can I
- 1:50Speaker 2: get a lights out tattoo or switch on my right
- 1:52Speaker 2: fore arm? Everybody called me lights It's gonna be a thing.
- 1:55Speaker 2: One day she looked at me and she was like, boy,
- 1:58Speaker 2: you get the hell out the wrong right, just like that,
- 2:00Speaker 2: and I was like, okay. So every day for two
- 2:02Speaker 2: weeks I bothered. I went home after school, Mom, can
- 2:04Speaker 2: I get this tattoo? Can I get this tattoo? She
- 2:06Speaker 2: ended up, let me get it.
- 2:08Speaker 3: But it went to my my freshman year in Maryland,
- 2:11Speaker 3: got tattoo at sixteen.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Let me.
- 2:13Speaker 2: She took me to a tattoo of sixteen. And so
- 2:16Speaker 2: now my son asked for one at fifteen sixteen. So
- 2:19Speaker 2: I got to bite the bullet hit right. But now, man,
- 2:23Speaker 2: on my freshman year, we played Georgia Tech on ESPN
- 2:26Speaker 2: and actually this hit is on YouTube and Watkins.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Whyever, she was going across the middle and I was
- 2:31Speaker 3: dropping the coverage.
- 2:32Speaker 1: I had a big hit.
- 2:33Speaker 2: It was my first time pointing to the tattoo, and
- 2:36Speaker 2: so I didn't really yeah, I didn't really expect it,
- 2:39Speaker 2: and then I got hyped up. I just started kind
- 2:41Speaker 2: of jumping up it down a little bit, as if
- 2:42Speaker 2: I'm going to the sideline. The crowd got louder, and
- 2:45Speaker 2: so that's where the whole thing started. Man, I was like,
- 2:47Speaker 2: I can't do it in college, but you're gonna get
- 2:49Speaker 2: flagged back then.
- 2:50Speaker 3: So when I got to the pros man.
- 2:51Speaker 1: It was on. Yeah, that's truly truly iconic. Huge Jared
- 2:57Speaker 1: Allen before they made him not that job like this,
- 3:00Speaker 1: there's a there's a funeral.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Man.
- 3:02Speaker 1: It gets a side where you see other kids do
- 3:03Speaker 1: your stuff like some people like, man, I can't believe
- 3:05Speaker 1: you did your SAX celebration. I love when somebody come
- 3:07Speaker 1: up and hit mine. I'm like, hey need respect, Hey
- 3:10Speaker 1: me what you own?
- 3:11Speaker 2: And you know what, man, the thing is when you're
- 3:13Speaker 2: a defensive player too, because you know when I was
- 3:15Speaker 2: a kid, I was.
- 3:16Speaker 1: In the backyard.
- 3:17Speaker 2: You know, I had the the the head band around
- 3:19Speaker 2: my neck like Dion and you do Dig Prime, you
- 3:21Speaker 2: know Prime's dance, and so you know as a kid,
- 3:24Speaker 2: when other kids do that, man, it's like that's a big,
- 3:27Speaker 2: big sign of respect.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Man. That's why I love it the most. Absolutely immlation
- 3:31Speaker 1: is is the biggest sign of flattery. You know what
- 3:33Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, let's allude to all the greats out there,
- 3:37Speaker 1: which you know comes me out of SAX celebrations. Take
- 3:40Speaker 1: me into you know, your rivalries, because you know the
- 3:43Speaker 1: Saints got a rivalry with uh, the trash Land of Falcons,
- 3:47Speaker 1: the Falcons, the failed cons. You know, uh, but y'all,
- 3:52Speaker 1: y'all should have got a story rivalry somehow with the Raiders.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Seemed like I'm not gonna lie. Raiders and charge for
- 3:58Speaker 1: some reason beef a lot, which but the Nighters and
- 4:00Speaker 1: Raiders beef a lot too. So like I'm like, how
- 4:02Speaker 1: many beats can you have in lead? I'm always I'm
- 4:04Speaker 1: always on the verse of like you can only hate
- 4:06Speaker 1: one person, dude.
- 4:08Speaker 2: So I didn't know when I got there my year
- 4:12Speaker 2: how stone that beef was. And then Marty Schaanenhammer was there.
- 4:15Speaker 2: And so Marty remember he was at Kansas City, yep.
- 4:18Speaker 2: And so you know, going through the week, we had
- 4:22Speaker 2: regular practice. Week, we had regular games, and then the
- 4:25Speaker 2: practice was hard because Marty Shaanhammer he was he was
- 4:27Speaker 2: tough all the time.
- 4:29Speaker 3: And that first Wednesday of Raider Week, you start seeing
- 4:33Speaker 3: it like this whole pace everything changed. The guys are
- 4:36Speaker 3: taking each other to the ground. I'm like, what the
- 4:38Speaker 3: what's going on? You know, I'm trying. I'm cracked back
- 4:41Speaker 3: in practice, bro crackback block. It was wild.
- 4:44Speaker 2: And then I just saw the intensity of Marty and
- 4:47Speaker 2: so like Marty put that put that in us to
- 4:50Speaker 2: really hate the Raiders.
- 4:52Speaker 1: So I understood that week what raided week was.
- 4:55Speaker 2: It was just a different kind of rouperry Man, where
- 4:57Speaker 2: I was like, dude, this is this is nothing I
- 4:59Speaker 2: seen in previous previous weeks. Because the NFL is already fast.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Martins a tough coach, it's already a physical.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Practice, but now you got guys lining up with you know,
- 5:09Speaker 3: on the five yard line full go.
- 5:11Speaker 1: During the season. So it was just it was a
- 5:14Speaker 1: different kind of time, man, Broun. You know when that
- 5:16Speaker 1: was happening, mm hmmmm. The coach set the tone and
- 5:19Speaker 1: you just falling in. You got to the game. It
- 5:21Speaker 1: was like it's you. I mean, is is there a
- 5:24Speaker 1: moment or play between that? You know? Those charges raided
- 5:26Speaker 1: games that like stood out like yeah, I hate y'all. Yeah, man.
- 5:31Speaker 2: And in O six, matter of fact, because I think
- 5:33Speaker 2: I had like three or three or four sacks against him,
- 5:36Speaker 2: it was Monday night football and I remember going into
- 5:39Speaker 2: the stadium and it was a bunch of fans blocking
- 5:42Speaker 2: us from going in and it was throwing stuff at
- 5:43Speaker 2: the bus. So we had the police, had to be
- 5:47Speaker 2: doubled up, had to escort us in. And so I
- 5:50Speaker 2: was like, this is crazy. You going into the black hole,
- 5:53Speaker 2: and so people don't understand kind of the rivalry between
- 5:56Speaker 2: the fan base, like the Chargers fans hate the Raiders
- 5:59Speaker 2: fan vice. Like it starts with the fans and then
- 6:02Speaker 2: it just kind of trickled down to US.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Coaches front office.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Play calling was different, you know, having the tight end
- 6:09Speaker 3: the wire sheep going in motion, crack block in the
- 6:11Speaker 3: d N.
- 6:11Speaker 2: It was like it was a real hatred there that
- 6:14Speaker 2: I didn't know, you know, my rookie year, but by
- 6:16Speaker 2: six I already knew what time it was. So I
- 6:19Speaker 2: end up getting you know, three or four sacks on
- 6:20Speaker 2: one in the football and bro, when I tell you,
- 6:23Speaker 2: like I had a few hundred text messages after that game,
- 6:27Speaker 2: you know, my fault was blowing up, like those are
- 6:29Speaker 2: the ones you miss for everybody watching it on the
- 6:30Speaker 2: Sunday night or Monday night football where everybody's like, you.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Know, you go, life shine the brightest, absolutely crazy, come
- 6:37Speaker 1: on in you you catching you catching love and hate
- 6:39Speaker 1: at the same time. How are you gonna do my
- 6:41Speaker 1: dogs like that? You know, that's the way we put
- 6:44Speaker 1: on for the city, absolutely because you got thy.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Two we got you know, we still got boys and
- 6:49Speaker 2: the other team Now for those full coulters you hate,
- 6:51Speaker 2: you don't care. You'll go through the charity events only
- 6:54Speaker 2: all season. You know, after the game, you'll shake hands whatever.
- 6:57Speaker 2: But those full coarters, it don't even matter. They got
- 6:59Speaker 2: on a different colored element and their head gotta.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Come up a man. So that's just what it was
- 7:05Speaker 1: used to. Used to love knocking, knocking, the knocking, my
- 7:07Speaker 1: dogs blocks off. I went to col with I catch
- 7:09Speaker 1: Keenan in the slant, keen Ellen in the slant. I
- 7:11Speaker 1: need it, you know, I used to hit Stembreen everybody.
- 7:14Speaker 1: I need it. I'm gonna shay you like, yeah, yeah,
- 7:17Speaker 1: it ain't practice no more. I gotta take you to
- 7:19Speaker 1: the ground. Now. I love what I can see my friends.
- 7:21Speaker 1: I meet them, uh exclusively just for them. I need that.
- 7:26Speaker 1: But man, and that's that's crazy. I mean, uh, charges
- 7:29Speaker 1: Raiders play next Monday night in Vegas. Yeah yeah, Vegas
- 7:34Speaker 1: is starting to starting to turn that culture.
- 7:37Speaker 3: So you so you know what, man, the Ralfrey is definitely.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Still there for sure. So different though so far. Hits
- 7:44Speaker 1: different than the San Diego Stadium and Vegas and Vegas.
- 7:48Speaker 2: It's it's different, man, because you got all these like
- 7:51Speaker 2: new sets of fans, so they hatred. The dislike is
- 7:55Speaker 2: still there, but I don't know if that I don't
- 7:57Speaker 2: hare anymore. Yeah, that hatred I want, is there anymore?
- 8:00Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Hey, I'm gonna have to tune in because
- 8:03Speaker 1: I'll be watching. We used to.
- 8:04Speaker 2: We used to, man, it was fights, so many fights
- 8:06Speaker 2: in the stands during the games that we would stop
- 8:09Speaker 2: on the I'm on the solid, I'm watching the fight
- 8:11Speaker 2: in the stands. So I don't know if it's that
- 8:13Speaker 2: level of hatred anymore.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Oh, come on, I doubt it is. So far. It
- 8:16Speaker 1: is different. Man, It's an event now, you know, it's
- 8:19Speaker 1: it's a place to be seen versus like, really I
- 8:23Speaker 1: feel like buying in. But maybe that's just because we
- 8:25Speaker 1: saw preseason. Maybe maybe a change your season we went
- 8:28Speaker 1: to we were so far last year. I was like, huh,
- 8:30Speaker 1: So it feels like, you know, the Dallas Cowboys stadium,
- 8:32Speaker 1: like the fans are there more a line on the
- 8:35Speaker 1: lines to be like, hey, I went to the game
- 8:36Speaker 1: more than like that's my team, you know, like, and
- 8:39Speaker 1: there's a difference in the pheling like you come you
- 8:41Speaker 1: come to the to the SATs game and it's generations
- 8:44Speaker 1: of cats like my grandpa took me the first game
- 8:46Speaker 1: and my daddy came. We got the shame shits ticket
- 8:48Speaker 1: ships nineteen teventy eight, right, man, and a bout in.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you though, because I always you know,
- 8:55Speaker 2: because I still do a lot of stuff in the
- 8:57Speaker 2: Chargers and I'm always thinking, I'm like, dude, if I
- 8:59Speaker 2: got a chance of playing in the stadium, will come
- 9:01Speaker 2: out to this because Qualcom wasn't nothing like that in
- 9:04Speaker 2: San Diego. Qualcom was nothing like that for y'all, man,
- 9:07Speaker 2: when y'all walk in there, like, how how is how
- 9:11Speaker 2: is that? Playing in those stadiums, It's.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Easy, especially like especially when you come from playing with
- 9:16Speaker 1: like at the Superdome the season the season Superdome every week,
- 9:20Speaker 1: and like you that crowd noise is just like electric
- 9:23Speaker 1: and we're top. If we're not number one, we're number two.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Easily loudest stadiums in the in the league. Right when
- 9:29Speaker 1: everybody's bought in and they're they're going, that's rattling, especially
- 9:33Speaker 1: on defense because you're all in the field when it's
- 9:35Speaker 1: those times. So it's easily comparable to away games. It's crazy, right,
- 9:39Speaker 1: if you go to away game, it's silent one. The
- 9:42Speaker 1: office is on the field, so I'm not feeling anyways.
- 9:44Speaker 1: We get to the sidelines and then they start getting
- 9:46Speaker 1: loud like this is nice, like this is cute, but
- 9:51Speaker 1: you know, like it's not. I feel like it doesn't
- 9:53Speaker 1: really affect. We got speakers that can match this energy.
- 10:00Speaker 1: It's different, bro, when it's third down Saints versus Falcons
- 10:04Speaker 1: and you hear that crowd. There is no place that
- 10:06Speaker 1: has been close to being as loud as our stadium Seattle,
- 10:10Speaker 1: where they like, oh we've got the you know, we've
- 10:12Speaker 1: got the the stadium twelfth Man that funnels in towards
- 10:16Speaker 1: the field. Oh, Okays City, I hear you, brother, You
- 10:20Speaker 1: get me going in the good old Saint Nation Stadium. Yeah,
- 10:23Speaker 1: it's different. Everything else is like all right and we're rolling. Yeah.
- 10:28Speaker 3: Despros is telling me how crazy it was out there playing.
- 10:31Speaker 1: And y'all say, and he can he could be the
- 10:33Speaker 1: best comparison Philly Chargers Saints. You know, it's different. But
- 10:38Speaker 1: you know in terms of in terms of rushers, you've
- 10:42Speaker 1: seen what what past rush is getting paid these days.
- 10:45Speaker 1: We ain't gonna speak about it. We love to see it,
- 10:47Speaker 1: but what do you what do you think about the
- 10:48Speaker 1: guys this offseason, Miles gets paid, TJ gets paid, and
- 10:52Speaker 1: I'm like, n ain't the bar's been set so high?
- 10:55Speaker 1: And then Micah comes in with the hoe.
- 10:59Speaker 3: There.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, he's you know, during a Sack summit, man,
- 11:04Speaker 2: like ding during the summer. When I was with you
- 11:06Speaker 2: guys in the Sack summer. It was cool for me, man,
- 11:09Speaker 2: because I'm I'm in a different you know, kind of
- 11:11Speaker 2: business stuff now, so I don't get a chance to
- 11:12Speaker 2: hang out with a lot of guys. I'll go doing
- 11:14Speaker 2: ota sometime, I'll spend a day to a training camp,
- 11:17Speaker 2: but I don't really get a chance to be out there.
- 11:19Speaker 2: But I saw, like being around y'all, how much the
- 11:22Speaker 2: game progressed, right, Like, the game is just progressed. And
- 11:25Speaker 2: I don't know if that's because the not more knowledge
- 11:27Speaker 2: is there or y'all had to progress because of the quarterbacks.
- 11:31Speaker 2: So I was out there, I was out there asking
- 11:33Speaker 2: more questions than I was, you know, really demonstrated for
- 11:37Speaker 2: the most part because the game has changed.
- 11:39Speaker 1: And so you see some of these.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Guys like even now, Bro, I probably could have played
- 11:44Speaker 2: still until I was like thirty five, you know, like
- 11:49Speaker 2: thirty like I was, I probably still could have went
- 11:51Speaker 2: out there, like thirty five, thirty six. I was still
- 11:53Speaker 2: working with some of the guys on y'all season when
- 11:55Speaker 2: I was training, and I'll go do some MMA stuff
- 11:58Speaker 2: and I'll go back to training, but with a bunch
- 12:00Speaker 2: of guys.
- 12:01Speaker 1: But I got out there.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Now, you know, seeing everybody just all see like them
- 12:04Speaker 2: young boys is out there doing the actual drills and
- 12:07Speaker 2: going through the whole process. He was like, nah, nah, bro,
- 12:11Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying that just to take off
- 12:12Speaker 2: the explosion. Guys now are more nimble, are more like
- 12:16Speaker 2: knowledgeable by using their hands and so you know, timing
- 12:19Speaker 2: and stuff and how they look at different like it's
- 12:21Speaker 2: now it's is more of a thinking man's game. Like
- 12:24Speaker 2: back when I was playing, I'll say, yo, if you
- 12:26Speaker 2: can't beat me up, if I get off the line
- 12:27Speaker 2: of scrimmage or or you get me, I'm a bull
- 12:30Speaker 2: rush you. I'm going side. That was That was the end.
- 12:32Speaker 2: That was the end game. Like you can get somebody there.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Now you gotta be more conscious about how you pass
- 12:38Speaker 2: for us rush lanes, rush lanes, and who are you
- 12:42Speaker 2: going against your quarterback?
- 12:44Speaker 1: I don't worried about the fat guy in front of me,
- 12:46Speaker 1: the officer lineman. That the guy who can't touch his
- 12:48Speaker 1: toes as belly goes over his belt, I'm not worried
- 12:50Speaker 1: about him. I worry about that real athlete back there.
- 12:54Speaker 1: We just played Kyler Murray. That man is out there
- 12:56Speaker 1: giving real life video game juke moves. Two steps up,
- 13:00Speaker 1: reverse spin out, show me up, shake back, some hare,
- 13:03Speaker 1: squeeze through, create a creative play like I'm worried about
- 13:07Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson some more. Even though your your lesser
- 13:11Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks, your bow Nixons, whatever, they can still slide,
- 13:15Speaker 1: still slide that. But see that.
- 13:17Speaker 3: That's what I was asking the camp, because I was like, man,
- 13:20Speaker 3: you either had back when I played you the had
- 13:22Speaker 3: either or you had a guy that could just run
- 13:23Speaker 3: the ball, or you had a guy who was gonna
- 13:26Speaker 3: stand the back like the statue.
- 13:27Speaker 2: You can get them, and now you gotta worry about
- 13:30Speaker 2: boat man. So that that just all dull thread is
- 13:33Speaker 2: your is your minimum? Is your minimum?
- 13:36Speaker 1: Now he don't take off a lot, but when he does,
- 13:39Speaker 1: he's still running four to seven. Oh he's he's a
- 13:41Speaker 1: slow one. Oh man, right, I mean he takes off,
- 13:45Speaker 1: you gotta watch out for Josh Allen he will run
- 13:47Speaker 1: through you, over you, and then he can also probably
- 13:49Speaker 1: match your speed, if not outrun yourick.
- 13:52Speaker 3: Bro Let me let me so you play long enough
- 13:54Speaker 3: when you start, when did that star happen? Who was
- 13:57Speaker 3: the first one O, My first super athlete was was
- 14:01Speaker 3: Cam Newton, and then right after him was Michael Vick.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Though you know so like Michael Vick was the bridge
- 14:08Speaker 1: of the old era of the new era where we
- 14:09Speaker 1: were like, man, it's Michael Vick. And I was like,
- 14:11Speaker 1: well that twenty twelve and I was like, dang, bro
- 14:13Speaker 1: I used to watch them Wether with the falcons. It's crazy.
- 14:16Speaker 1: This is like the Michael Vick and I had a
- 14:17Speaker 1: three piece off of them, and I was like, I
- 14:20Speaker 1: was all right, we hunting for real? You know. Cam
- 14:22Speaker 1: Newton was the first quarterback Like I hit and like
- 14:25Speaker 1: I thought, I smashed, and it like I bounced off
- 14:27Speaker 1: of him. He rolled out created like through a dot
- 14:30Speaker 1: down the I said, oh no, I said, yo, if
- 14:32Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are like this, I'm not gonna make it.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Like give me the Ben roethlisbergers. You know, six five.
- 14:38Speaker 1: He's gonna say he's two seventy, but come on, we
- 14:40Speaker 1: all know, yo. But he can't move like that, Like
- 14:43Speaker 1: he can't outrun you give me Tom Brady six five
- 14:46Speaker 1: six six, you know, stand in the pocket. He gets
- 14:49Speaker 1: the ball out quick, which irritates you. But once you
- 14:51Speaker 1: get them got it, you know you got the Pat
- 14:55Speaker 1: Mahomes Like as you're tackling him, he's doing these no
- 14:58Speaker 1: look slings and you know it' money. You know, the
- 15:01Speaker 1: Matthew Staffords, who was probably the least one of the
- 15:03Speaker 1: least mobile Quarterbackshi Many and Rogers, and they can still
- 15:05Speaker 1: sort of get out and maneuver in the pocket and
- 15:07Speaker 1: create these amazing talented throws like give me, give me
- 15:12Speaker 1: the guys that can't move it all.
- 15:13Speaker 3: So you could pick your poison right now. And I
- 15:16Speaker 3: was looking at that man and now it was it
- 15:18Speaker 3: was dope.
- 15:19Speaker 2: But you know, back to the guys that's really getting
- 15:21Speaker 2: paid right now, I thought about.
- 15:24Speaker 1: I got wass giv me back out. Yeah.
- 15:28Speaker 3: So I was like probably when I was thirty thirty,
- 15:30Speaker 3: two thirty three, I actually was gonna go back and play.
- 15:33Speaker 3: I wasn gonna go back and play.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Like when I was like four years out, I was
- 15:36Speaker 2: gonna go back and and uh I was training already,
- 15:39Speaker 2: and so we were talking at teams.
- 15:40Speaker 1: At that time, I was four years done.
- 15:42Speaker 2: And what made me think that Because it was some
- 15:45Speaker 2: dudes coming off the bench making seven ten million.
- 15:48Speaker 3: I said, hold on, what seven eight million? The most
- 15:51Speaker 3: I made in the year was five five and a half,
- 15:53Speaker 3: you know, in Buffalo in the year, So you got
- 15:56Speaker 3: to do this this not even getting in the game
- 15:58Speaker 3: making self. So I think, okay, hold on, that's that's
- 16:02Speaker 3: what I started thinking.
- 16:03Speaker 2: I said, I can go back and at least, at
- 16:05Speaker 2: bare minimum, give anybody, you know, eighteen or thirty players
- 16:08Speaker 2: a game, you know what I mean. I couldn't probably
- 16:10Speaker 2: play sixty like I did when when Ayden started doing
- 16:12Speaker 2: them then hurry up offenses and just just dumping down
- 16:15Speaker 2: the field the whole damn time. But I can go
- 16:17Speaker 2: and get you know, get twenty five thirty plays a game,
- 16:20Speaker 2: no problem at a high level.
- 16:22Speaker 1: So that's what my head was.
- 16:24Speaker 2: But I see this money now, man with Mica signs
- 16:26Speaker 2: for I said, yo, that that ain't even And I
- 16:30Speaker 2: know the game goes up every year, but you start
- 16:32Speaker 2: seeing those numbers bro for a pass rusher, I said, man.
- 16:36Speaker 3: That's that's crazy to me. That's extremely crazy to me.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Yeah, we converting dreams. My son was like, Dad, I
- 16:42Speaker 1: can't wait to Uh, I can't wait to hit somebody.
- 16:45Speaker 1: I said, who do you want to hit? He's like
- 16:46Speaker 1: the quarterback like you. I said, hmm, I know. I said,
- 16:49Speaker 1: I don't want you to play football, but the hell
- 16:53Speaker 1: of a dream sign. And you see, after mikel gets
- 16:57Speaker 1: traded to the Packers, you saw Jerry Jones came out
- 16:59Speaker 1: and said, like, what do you say? So I'm like, yeah,
- 17:01Speaker 1: you know, uh, it was okay for us because like
- 17:04Speaker 1: you know, we're trying to we're trying. That doesn't help
- 17:05Speaker 1: us stop the run. Hey, bro, like you've been hyping
- 17:09Speaker 1: up this guy for three four years and I don't
- 17:11Speaker 1: do that. See.
- 17:13Speaker 3: You know it's funny, man, because you know, now I'm
- 17:16Speaker 3: in a position where I'm running a company and so
- 17:20Speaker 3: i'd be looking so now it's like I understand, you
- 17:23Speaker 3: know some of the fighters and all the you know
- 17:25Speaker 3: the business side of stuff and where they coming from,
- 17:27Speaker 3: Like you got to get your money, you got to
- 17:28Speaker 3: get paid.
- 17:29Speaker 2: I look at Jerry and I know that people gonna
- 17:31Speaker 2: say a lot because Micah is one of these dudes
- 17:33Speaker 2: like you. There's not gonna be another Micah parties for
- 17:36Speaker 2: ten years, Like, you're not gonna see somebody like that
- 17:39Speaker 2: with that explosion.
- 17:40Speaker 3: It can turn a corner. You can line up in
- 17:41Speaker 3: an eight gap, be gap, bring around the corner. I mean,
- 17:43Speaker 3: he could do everything.
- 17:45Speaker 2: So you're not getting you getting one of those guys
- 17:47Speaker 2: of that of that color, but like every ten years.
- 17:49Speaker 1: But in Jerry's standpoint, I'm.
- 17:51Speaker 3: Looking at all, right, cool, what if one of these
- 17:53Speaker 3: guys he drafts, you know, turn out pose something and
- 17:57Speaker 3: not even not even close to Michael Parsons. But you
- 17:59Speaker 3: get an other dude that's on the on the borderline
- 18:01Speaker 3: of a Pro Bowl guy in that third first round
- 18:04Speaker 3: pick they acquired or whatever it is. You get two
- 18:07Speaker 3: second round guys that end up being so now you
- 18:09Speaker 3: got a complete team. But right now you can't justify
- 18:12Speaker 3: it because this dude good to get on the field,
- 18:14Speaker 3: probably don't even know all the damn plays yet.
- 18:16Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying he knows you know some of.
- 18:18Speaker 3: The lingo, right, but you don't really know the plays
- 18:21Speaker 3: like that pure hustle production. That said, just pure hustle production.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Get on the field and chase somebody from behind like
- 18:28Speaker 2: a damn gazelle, you know what I mean. And so
- 18:31Speaker 2: right now, it's looking bad for Jerry, But give it
- 18:33Speaker 2: three four years that one of those draft picks or
- 18:35Speaker 2: two of those draft picks end up being something that
- 18:37Speaker 2: he I mean, he could be right right.
- 18:39Speaker 1: I mean he also got Kenny Clark, who's a who's
- 18:40Speaker 1: a mega run stopper, you know, push the pocket guy.
- 18:44Speaker 1: In exchange, he got what two first rounders, So like
- 18:47Speaker 1: you can you can hopefully justifight in three years, but
- 18:49Speaker 1: you can't just fight now. Down. Donas is down bad
- 18:52Speaker 1: right now? No, they lost it right now? What counter year?
- 18:55Speaker 1: They lost Luca from from the Mouse and you lose
- 18:57Speaker 1: Michael Parsons for the Cowboys, like Dallas is Dallas is
- 19:01Speaker 1: like God, what else do you want from bro Dallas?
- 19:06Speaker 1: Dallas taking the al all the way around. But they
- 19:09Speaker 1: can be a positive. Maybe they are better on the
- 19:11Speaker 1: floor without Luca. Maybe maybe they are better stopping the
- 19:14Speaker 1: run without Micah. But do they do they have that
- 19:17Speaker 1: that playmaker they can rely on? Now, okay, you got
- 19:20Speaker 1: somebody step up? Sure, sure you know that is to
- 19:24Speaker 1: be determined. I think you're two or three years out
- 19:26Speaker 1: from determining if it's the worst trade or a good one.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Who do you think is the best pass dresser in
- 19:31Speaker 1: the game right now. Pure you know, it's it's crazy, man, because.
- 19:39Speaker 3: You know I've watched Nick Nick, you know, watched some
- 19:41Speaker 3: of these guys, Nick Bosa, And I'm talking about like
- 19:43Speaker 3: the yellow guys who because I don't I don't really
- 19:47Speaker 3: say they established guys right because they're y'all, like, your
- 19:51Speaker 3: career is is set, what you've done, your body of work,
- 19:54Speaker 3: you've already you complete it to being who you are.
- 19:57Speaker 3: And I look at I look at some of the
- 19:58Speaker 3: other guys as planning it's going play six, seven, eight
- 20:01Speaker 3: more years or whatever, being bro.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I want to yeah, please don't throw me in that category.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Oh no, but I'm six more years. My wife, my
- 20:08Speaker 1: wife will hate me.
- 20:09Speaker 4: Oh dude, listen, we know, we know what they do
- 20:13Speaker 4: if you play too long. It takes a lot to
- 20:19Speaker 4: be who you are now. And she's like, hey, eventually
- 20:22Speaker 4: I need you to be mine.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Okay, I got you, baby.
- 20:27Speaker 3: You know you go to Brazil, Brazilian JIUJITSI coach, you
- 20:29Speaker 3: played a couple of six more years.
- 20:32Speaker 1: You can happen, now, Okay, happen.
- 20:35Speaker 2: But so I mean looking at looking at Miles though
- 20:38Speaker 2: the other day, and this this was my thing always
- 20:41Speaker 2: with Myles, I always felt like looking at Hi when
- 20:44Speaker 2: I met him at Jarvis Landry's charity softball event. This
- 20:49Speaker 2: is like in twenty eighteen or nineteen or something somewhere
- 20:52Speaker 2: around there. And now he walked in the room. I said, Yo,
- 20:56Speaker 2: this dude looks this is crazy. And I'm you know,
- 20:58Speaker 2: I'm not a small dude myself as a pass rusher,
- 21:00Speaker 2: and I'm looking at him. I say, yo, this is crazy,
- 21:03Speaker 2: and people look at me like I was crazy. I'm
- 21:05Speaker 2: looking at him like no, no, this is crazy, right.
- 21:07Speaker 2: And my thing with him was is just always having
- 21:10Speaker 2: that switch. I said, dude, it one day when he
- 21:12Speaker 2: figure out how to keep this foot of the gas,
- 21:14Speaker 2: I don't know how somebody gonna block him because he's
- 21:17Speaker 2: too big, too strong, too fast, is nimble, can turn
- 21:19Speaker 2: a corner, use his hands, duck under you at that
- 21:22Speaker 2: size at sixty five six, you know, sixty six whatever,
- 21:24Speaker 2: he is two seventy two seventy five and can move
- 21:28Speaker 2: and got fast twitching. I said, if he if he
- 21:31Speaker 2: decides to turn it on, there's nobody gonna be able
- 21:33Speaker 2: to do anything with them. So these last two years,
- 21:36Speaker 2: man like this for the first time in his career
- 21:38Speaker 2: where I've seen him trail somebody from the backside and
- 21:42Speaker 2: not give up on plates, you know, like that second effort,
- 21:45Speaker 2: that third effort.
- 21:46Speaker 1: Right now, what he did to Joe Bird the other day.
- 21:48Speaker 3: Is the first time probably says Hamlet that I prayed
- 21:50Speaker 3: for some you know what I'm saying for somebody. Sin's
- 21:53Speaker 3: what happened to Hamlet, right bro, I said, Yo, he
- 21:56Speaker 3: out like he's out. You know, he came down as
- 21:58Speaker 3: the stunt down the middle and I don't know if
- 22:00Speaker 3: they ran a tax or exit or something like that.
- 22:02Speaker 1: He can he got a clean shot on the clean shot,
- 22:05Speaker 1: and I was so I said, oh.
- 22:06Speaker 3: That's that's the seat. That's the seat for the for
- 22:08Speaker 3: the Bengals.
- 22:09Speaker 2: Right.
- 22:10Speaker 3: But just looking at that dude, that's how versatile he is.
- 22:13Speaker 3: And then you can line them up if you want
- 22:15Speaker 3: to put them in a three right like I created
- 22:18Speaker 3: a why three real mismatch. That's where that's where you
- 22:21Speaker 3: actually have fun.
- 22:22Speaker 1: If you got an edge that can get off the ball,
- 22:25Speaker 1: hear that out, that's where you start to have real
- 22:27Speaker 1: If you line up on a tackle and you're from
- 22:29Speaker 1: like you're almost lined up all you're lined up on
- 22:32Speaker 1: a guard and you're almost on the tackle. Are you out?
- 22:34Speaker 1: All this space?
- 22:35Speaker 5: And guards guards are massive hitting the videos. They're not
- 22:38Speaker 5: used to they're not used to ice on now. Yeah,
- 22:41Speaker 5: if there's somebody that can move right there. They they
- 22:44Speaker 5: used to doing everything in the box. Everything in the
- 22:46Speaker 5: box for them. They got stick you in the frame.
- 22:49Speaker 1: That's it. Nah, big fella come out to this island.
- 22:52Speaker 1: Oh you, oh, you big hull out there by myself myself. Hey,
- 22:58Speaker 1: they start sweating preaching. Now, what's the count? Big feelings?
- 23:02Speaker 1: You know what the count is. That's what I'm saying.
- 23:06Speaker 2: I think I think him right now, only only because
- 23:09Speaker 2: he's last These last two years, man, I've seen him
- 23:12Speaker 2: make a jump and really really his effort, his effort,
- 23:15Speaker 2: his efforts changed now. So I think he got something
- 23:18Speaker 2: something click with him. That in this coach who I
- 23:22Speaker 2: played with, Jock and he's coaching I played with. I
- 23:26Speaker 2: played with Joss and his D line coach, and he
- 23:27Speaker 2: called me one time on FaceTime and was like, man, listen.
- 23:30Speaker 2: When he first got there, he said, dude, if Miles
- 23:33Speaker 2: get this motor like you had, he's better than you.
- 23:37Speaker 3: And I'm like, shut up. I said, Yo, you don't
- 23:39Speaker 3: gotta throw shots already. I was like, bro, you don't
- 23:42Speaker 3: gotta throw shots. You could just leave it as he
- 23:43Speaker 3: gonna be a lot better, right, He's gonna be all
- 23:46Speaker 3: right now, he's gonna be better than you, all right.
- 23:48Speaker 3: But yeah, he was right, man, because he just got
- 23:51Speaker 3: this thing with him over these last two years where
- 23:54Speaker 3: he was he's capable of just keeping the gas from
- 23:56Speaker 3: keep it full of the pedal, no doubt.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Shout out to real defensive line, which is that actually
- 24:00Speaker 1: understand the game and then can help aggress their players.
- 24:04Speaker 1: And like you see, you see how Max Crosby's taking
- 24:06Speaker 1: off over the last couple of years. He's in my
- 24:08Speaker 1: top top tier two. You look at you look at
- 24:10Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson and what he's done. He's led the league
- 24:13Speaker 1: in sacks the last two years. I'm just gonna insert
- 24:15Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, which you know, I don't know how the
- 24:18Speaker 1: Bengals didn't just extend him because the price is only
- 24:21Speaker 1: gonna keep going up at that.
- 24:23Speaker 2: So I never understood that about teams, right, so you
- 24:26Speaker 2: know if that's gonna be your guy or not. And
- 24:29Speaker 2: if you know that that's not gonna be a guy,
- 24:31Speaker 2: and go ahead and make a move now because he
- 24:33Speaker 2: go out and get something double digits again.
- 24:36Speaker 1: He gets ten, he'll have forty five and three years.
- 24:38Speaker 1: You saw what Michael just got, so like, that'll be
- 24:40Speaker 1: the low end. Like, so you if he and you
- 24:43Speaker 1: knew that two years ago, when he s works lock
- 24:46Speaker 1: him in. If that's your guy, if he does everything
- 24:48Speaker 1: the right way, he works out, he leads a team,
- 24:50Speaker 1: he's in the community, he treats his family well, he
- 24:53Speaker 1: treats his teammates well, he's your guy. You're like, man,
- 24:56Speaker 1: this is such a great find. Two years in they're like, man,
- 24:58Speaker 1: we could have made a better sign. And then Trey Henderson,
- 25:02Speaker 1: you signed him that day, the moment his guaranteed get
- 25:04Speaker 1: close to running out. That's it. All guys want is
- 25:07Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Like hey, hey, get me good. It's it's
- 25:11Speaker 1: safe to the year. Say at minimum, you could have
- 25:14Speaker 1: signed them for thirty for the next three ain't even
- 25:18Speaker 1: locked in. But now you're looking at this number. Now,
- 25:21Speaker 1: Jerry Jones could have signed Michael after you, after your
- 25:25Speaker 1: after your your rookie contract. You have two ten plus
- 25:28Speaker 1: SAX seasons, and you see the motor you got. I'm like, hey, bro,
- 25:30Speaker 1: so you want this little thirty, like we'll make you
- 25:33Speaker 1: thirty two. You know, keep you relative at the time.
- 25:36Speaker 1: At the time, you'll probably take it right, take it
- 25:39Speaker 1: because it saved you fifty years. Or now you've traded them,
- 25:43Speaker 1: So now you're missing a huge piece of defense that
- 25:45Speaker 1: you don't know if you can replace. Now. You you
- 25:48Speaker 1: got you know, Peyton Turner, you got Kenny Clark and
- 25:50Speaker 1: you but you let Tank Lawrence walk. Can you let
- 25:53Speaker 1: market the Marcus get traded Mia, Mike could get traded.
- 25:57Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's why I'm glad. I'm saying
- 25:59Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about these issues. On defense side.
- 26:01Speaker 1: We got tomorrow. Chase Young's gonna be healthy soon, called Grannison.
- 26:06Speaker 1: My edge is great. My interior line Brandons Day's came
- 26:09Speaker 1: in and you've seen what he's done, you know over
- 26:11Speaker 1: the years defensive wise. Look, I love our defense and
- 26:14Speaker 1: what we can be and our offense is growing. Anyways,
- 26:17Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you know, I see I seen a video
- 26:19Speaker 1: of you training, bro, So what you what's your weighing? Now?
- 26:22Speaker 1: What did you play at your what your at your
- 26:24Speaker 1: at your peak? You was what like two fifty to
- 26:26Speaker 1: fifty five?
- 26:27Speaker 3: I played around two sixty five and I used to
- 26:29Speaker 3: walk around in the off season like too a little
- 26:30Speaker 3: over to seventy.
- 26:32Speaker 1: No, what is is different now? Man?
- 26:34Speaker 3: Because back when I was probably lifting a bunch of
- 26:36Speaker 3: weights and you know what I mean.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Whatever, So I slimmed up. Yeah you're you're forty now,
- 26:41Speaker 1: so you're like to thirty five.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of this do with
- 26:45Speaker 2: the mm A trainer though, So I saw getting the
- 26:48Speaker 2: MMA Jay Glades over the Fox Sports.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:51Speaker 3: I grew up so my uncle's with professional boxes and
- 26:53Speaker 3: so I grew up boxing in PC County, Maryland anyway,
- 26:55Speaker 3: Washingt DC area, and so we just grew up naturally boxing.
- 26:58Speaker 2: So one day I'm just hit the mit in the
- 27:00Speaker 2: gym and Jay look over like, oh shit, you can box?
- 27:03Speaker 2: I said, yeah, you know my uncle's box. I was
- 27:05Speaker 2: with him alive or whatever. I think you should try
- 27:07Speaker 2: him in May. It'll help you out in football. So
- 27:09Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, cool, no problem. Jay sends me
- 27:13Speaker 2: a text to a gym said meet me here tomorrow,
- 27:17Speaker 2: and so I go to this gym off off LaBrea
- 27:19Speaker 2: in LA. I walk in the gym and Jay Glazer's
- 27:22Speaker 2: right here to my right, and then Randy Coutour is
- 27:25Speaker 2: on my left.
- 27:26Speaker 3: Bro.
- 27:27Speaker 1: So I'm looking at and I'm a big inn May
- 27:29Speaker 1: fan at the time, so I know exactly who Randy
- 27:30Speaker 1: Goatour was.
- 27:31Speaker 2: He had just won a title at like forty one,
- 27:33Speaker 2: forty two years old, right, And so I walk in.
- 27:36Speaker 2: I'm looking at Jay, I'm looking at Randy. I'm looking
- 27:38Speaker 2: at j And I said, Jay, like, I hope you
- 27:41Speaker 2: ain't playing on me fighting Randy today.
- 27:43Speaker 1: That ain't happening. You know, I'm not you know what I.
- 27:45Speaker 2: Mean, I'm not getting in there with Randy. And so
- 27:48Speaker 2: he said, no, man, You'll get in there and do
- 27:49Speaker 2: a lot of hand in hand combat, a lot of
- 27:51Speaker 2: pumbling groundword.
- 27:52Speaker 1: Be it to open up your hips. And Bro, we
- 27:55Speaker 1: did a warm up for fifteen minutes and I was gassed.
- 27:58Speaker 1: That's all anyways, Well, mmm, a different for training is different,
- 28:03Speaker 1: go back to wrestling days. He went in there.
- 28:06Speaker 3: By the time I was thirty minutes into this workout.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Bro, I'm in there. He's laying on me. I'm trying
- 28:10Speaker 2: to get up. He keep taking me to the ground,
- 28:12Speaker 2: take me to the ground. I'm looking up in the
- 28:13Speaker 2: sky hoping that clock run out because I'm seeing the light.
- 28:17Speaker 1: I'm like, not for real. Yeah, I said the light.
- 28:21Speaker 1: I'm seeing the light because I can't breathe. He smothered me.
- 28:24Speaker 3: His pressures is crazy. And so we got down the
- 28:27Speaker 3: workout and I just walked out feel and defeated. I
- 28:30Speaker 3: was just like, man, I got my ass kicked today.
- 28:32Speaker 1: I was tired. I looked terrible.
- 28:33Speaker 3: I text Randy because I got his dember on the
- 28:35Speaker 3: way at the door, I said, what time are you
- 28:37Speaker 3: working out tomorrow?
- 28:37Speaker 2: I went down, back down and drove back back down
- 28:39Speaker 2: in San Diego. Do my because you know we had
- 28:41Speaker 2: the y y'all still have the all season workout?
- 28:43Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah put jo Yeah.
- 28:45Speaker 3: So I went down and did my workout, was saying Diego,
- 28:47Speaker 3: and I drove back to LA because I was furious,
- 28:50Speaker 3: you know, just that that competition in us we wanted
- 28:52Speaker 3: to get I wanted some get back, you know right,
- 28:56Speaker 3: you know I went up there.
- 28:57Speaker 2: I started training with him the rest of it all
- 28:58Speaker 2: season and then and tooothed, I was and six. I
- 29:01Speaker 2: came out and led led the league of sacks because
- 29:03Speaker 2: I got really good to use my hands. I was
- 29:05Speaker 2: I was terrible to use my hands before. And so
- 29:07Speaker 2: that's why I'm talking to a lot of a lot
- 29:09Speaker 2: of the younger guys that man. And that's one thing
- 29:11Speaker 2: you do too, man, like we when you come and
- 29:12Speaker 2: use your hands. You might not put your put yourself
- 29:15Speaker 2: up there this past rush category with some of these
- 29:17Speaker 2: other guys. Man, but you have always been great using
- 29:20Speaker 2: your hands.
- 29:20Speaker 1: I wasn't. I had to learn that.
- 29:21Speaker 3: That didn't come natural for me because I played off
- 29:23Speaker 3: the ball a lot and I wasn't really I wasn't
- 29:26Speaker 3: really going to use my hands. But when I picked
- 29:28Speaker 3: that up, man, it changed everything that I was doing.
- 29:31Speaker 1: Right. I mean, shoot, you over there training training with
- 29:33Speaker 1: other guys. Have you ever thought about training you know,
- 29:36Speaker 1: the next next pantheon, the Darius Robinson's, you know, the
- 29:39Speaker 1: the guys around you out there out there in LA.
- 29:42Speaker 1: You know whoever these young bucks from Maryland, Virginia. You know,
- 29:45Speaker 1: there's always always in next to you or the you
- 29:47Speaker 1: know Chase young look alike boys, boys be coming from
- 29:50Speaker 1: from ball Preacher County. Okay, we get it. You're a
- 29:53Speaker 1: swoll cat. No, we get it. You swollen light skin, No,
- 29:55Speaker 1: we get that. Yeah, it's funny. Man, Chase.
- 29:59Speaker 3: I used to watch him, says he was like a
- 30:01Speaker 3: freshman in high school.
- 30:03Speaker 2: My my my head coach in high school was his gym,
- 30:06Speaker 2: was his teacher when his school teacher in high school.
- 30:09Speaker 3: And so he would always come back and tell me
- 30:11Speaker 3: about this kid, Chase Yeah, you know that he had
- 30:14Speaker 3: when he was when he was younger, And I was like,
- 30:18Speaker 3: who He said, man, Chase Young.
- 30:20Speaker 1: You know this this kid. So he was talking about
- 30:22Speaker 1: him for years. This was and this was after.
- 30:24Speaker 2: This was after I left and graduated. But he would
- 30:26Speaker 2: always talking about this kid, Chase Young. So I didn't
- 30:28Speaker 2: even know how good he was until he got to
- 30:30Speaker 2: end up on Ohio State, you know what I mean.
- 30:32Speaker 2: But he was I know he had it had I
- 30:34Speaker 2: think he had a knee injury, right, he was coming back.
- 30:37Speaker 2: But Dugan Ball, he can he can go.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, especially when you said, oh I'll stay.
- 30:42Speaker 1: He put together one of the most most tantalizing, most
- 30:45Speaker 1: intriguing defensive end season you could ever have. But it
- 30:48Speaker 1: was went crazy that one year got him to number
- 30:51Speaker 1: two over row. You know, he first rounders US first
- 30:53Speaker 1: rounders and you know your top your top end of
- 30:55Speaker 1: the first rounders. Oh man, I'm just saying, bro, you
- 31:01Speaker 1: came out to he came out to pass or something.
- 31:03Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, yo, you should
- 31:04Speaker 1: probably start training some cats. You know you you had
- 31:07Speaker 1: so much input in there. I was like, it's in you,
- 31:09Speaker 1: like you. I don't think. I don't think that competitive
- 31:13Speaker 1: nature that we have as athletes ever leaves us. And
- 31:16Speaker 1: so it's almost great to have like a tutelage to something.
- 31:20Speaker 1: You know you you you funded all the lights out
- 31:22Speaker 1: into the m M A world. And I've we've been
- 31:24Speaker 1: watching sign him up or don't sign him up for
- 31:27Speaker 1: you know, five six seven years not ten fifteen here,
- 31:30Speaker 1: it's been a while. I remember, I remember you were
- 31:33Speaker 1: still playing talking about it and I was like, ain't
- 31:34Speaker 1: no way. I was like, nah, and yeah, no, you've
- 31:37Speaker 1: you've done that. But you catch you a protege a bro,
- 31:40Speaker 1: you might you might be able to turn top Robinson
- 31:43Speaker 1: into the next huh you know what man and chopped
- 31:47Speaker 1: you know, out of pas State.
- 31:48Speaker 3: He was.
- 31:48Speaker 2: He was another young cat that I was looking at
- 31:50Speaker 2: that I think he's gonna be really good. He needs
- 31:52Speaker 2: to get that on his hands and stuff like that.
- 31:54Speaker 2: I didn't really have that bug until I was out
- 31:56Speaker 2: there with y'all. I did you know what I'm saying, Like,
- 31:58Speaker 2: I'll go out there. But even when I go and
- 32:00Speaker 2: do stuff with the charters or do whatever, it's always
- 32:03Speaker 2: with you know, the ownership the marketing apartment.
- 32:05Speaker 1: And that's that's being respectful other people's faces. Man, Like,
- 32:09Speaker 1: whatever you need for me, I'm here for you. No.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Like you get out there, you really start. You got
- 32:13Speaker 1: to talking to those kids, and the kids like, hell you,
- 32:16Speaker 1: I'm like you Sean Marryman. Yeah, it's crazy, man.
- 32:20Speaker 2: I didn't really you know, I didn't really have that
- 32:22Speaker 2: bug before until I was out there with y'all. Because
- 32:26Speaker 2: you're right, man, you get one of these younger guys
- 32:28Speaker 2: a chop Robson or some some younger kid who really
- 32:31Speaker 2: take in you know what you what you're teaching them,
- 32:35Speaker 2: and then it gets fun for you, Like it gets fun.
- 32:37Speaker 2: Like being back out there around there with all the guys.
- 32:39Speaker 2: I was like, man, I missed the ship. You know,
- 32:41Speaker 2: I didn't have that before. You know, I pop out
- 32:44Speaker 2: to a Chargers came all day, like when Joey Boston
- 32:46Speaker 2: all them boys were younger, and Melvin Ingram when they
- 32:50Speaker 2: were younger. I had them and I go out there
- 32:52Speaker 2: for a day or two and I'm like, okay, I'm
- 32:53Speaker 2: going back to my business and do all the stuff
- 32:55Speaker 2: that I'm doing.
- 32:56Speaker 3: But when I was out there with y'all, I was like,
- 32:58Speaker 3: holy shit, you know what I'm saying, because it was
- 32:59Speaker 3: a lot.
- 32:59Speaker 2: It was every everybody. It was all pass fush. So
- 33:02Speaker 2: for me, it's like walking back into a candy facility.
- 33:05Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, look at it. But man, if he.
- 33:07Speaker 3: Started putting his hands here like he can bend, he
- 33:10Speaker 3: could turn the corner.
- 33:11Speaker 1: So I thought about it. Man.
- 33:12Speaker 3: I've been thinking about a lot since I was out
- 33:13Speaker 3: there with y'all, So it's definitely possible.
- 33:16Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh man. I mean it's just I love I
- 33:21Speaker 1: love doing it. I've been doing it since I got
- 33:22Speaker 1: to the league. I think think about my draft class
- 33:24Speaker 1: twenty eleven used to be like the auld Smith. It
- 33:27Speaker 1: used to be Von Miller early twenty eleven twelve, Like,
- 33:30Speaker 1: hey man, what you saw when you were about to
- 33:32Speaker 1: play them next week? What you all you gotta do
- 33:34Speaker 1: is set up this ben like you know now even
- 33:36Speaker 1: older no like Klais Campbell hit me up or whoever
- 33:38Speaker 1: like you know that Malcolm Rose be like, man, man,
- 33:41Speaker 1: I just know what what tip you head. I'm gonna
- 33:42Speaker 1: give it everything too. I'm snitching like that. Hey, they're
- 33:45Speaker 1: Tucker right there. This is what I saw and it
- 33:47Speaker 1: is how I got him. I'm snitching. I was bro.
- 33:50Speaker 2: I was laughing when y'all was talking because we never
- 33:53Speaker 2: shared information like that. Yeah, back in my time, it
- 33:56Speaker 2: was like you wanted to be the sactly you want
- 33:58Speaker 2: to be. Young boys is like this give you the hey, bro,
- 34:03Speaker 2: this hey. I want you to have whatever I can
- 34:06Speaker 2: give you because I don't think you can do what
- 34:07Speaker 2: I can do. And that's that's either the confidence or
- 34:10Speaker 2: the borderline arrogance that I have. But I want I
- 34:12Speaker 2: want every pass russuer to win. I want us all
- 34:14Speaker 2: to beat the dult like I treat Officer Lineman his ops.
- 34:17Speaker 2: The only people I won't give up is my people.
- 34:20Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'll be like Camraun and paid it for.
- 34:22Speaker 1: I ain't gonna give nobody up from you, because I'll
- 34:25Speaker 1: give you a couple of DC cats like I ain't
- 34:27Speaker 1: gonna give you the Saints office lineup. But then joker's
- 34:29Speaker 1: over there, Hey at Lant office line. This is what
- 34:32Speaker 1: I got on x x x x x X why
- 34:34Speaker 1: and this is where the quarterback likes to hike foot
- 34:36Speaker 1: ball by the way this, this is the time he
- 34:38Speaker 1: likes you to do. And what else I got on you? Like,
- 34:40Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it up because why I love to
- 34:42Speaker 1: see defense ride. I love it as long as they
- 34:44Speaker 1: ain't playing us. I love it. Now. If you ask
- 34:46Speaker 1: me about either one of my boys, I'm like, look, man,
- 34:48Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. They're the Codis mugs I've ever seen.
- 34:51Speaker 1: They ain't got no flaws. Yeah, no, I ain't got
- 34:53Speaker 1: no wings since you. Yeah, I watched the film. I
- 34:56Speaker 1: don't really see nothing on them. I don't see nothing
- 34:58Speaker 1: on them. But all right, man, how big do you
- 35:03Speaker 1: think lights Out can get? Because I remember when you were,
- 35:06Speaker 1: like you were doing those the tours like you. I
- 35:09Speaker 1: think I went to a lights Out back in like
- 35:11Speaker 1: fifteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen, but it was like the underground stuff.
- 35:14Speaker 1: It felt. It felt so surreal. Yeah, you know, it's crazy, man.
- 35:19Speaker 2: So when you know when I got when I retired,
- 35:21Speaker 2: I went straight into TV and NFL Network, Fox Sports, ESPN.
- 35:24Speaker 1: I was at them.
- 35:24Speaker 3: I was still to launcher the WW network. So I
- 35:27Speaker 3: really started to understand like the TV business.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Like before it started turning into streaming, you know.
- 35:32Speaker 2: And so there was like a combination of being able
- 35:34Speaker 2: to understand TV understand like how to who pays the
- 35:37Speaker 2: bills the commercials, so when you on there.
- 35:40Speaker 3: I remember when Draft Kings first came out and I was.
- 35:42Speaker 2: At Fox Sports and I'm already getting paid well by
- 35:45Speaker 2: Fox Sports, as you know, coming in three four days
- 35:48Speaker 2: a week, and then they would ask me to stop
- 35:50Speaker 2: off to the side and Draft Kings would pay me
- 35:52Speaker 2: like a couple grand for like a thirty second read,
- 35:55Speaker 2: and I was just thinking, like, hold on, they paying
- 35:58Speaker 2: this kind of money to them, what are they you know,
- 36:01Speaker 2: what are they getting well if they're paying me that,
- 36:04Speaker 2: you know, three four thousand dollars thirty second read. So
- 36:07Speaker 2: I started really like, okay, it's some money in this thing.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Like I just wanted to I wanted to figure out
- 36:11Speaker 2: where that money was. And so when I launched Lights
- 36:13Speaker 2: Out Extrage Fighting, we already know the UFC is the
- 36:16Speaker 2: big dogs, but that's like, so we know if we
- 36:20Speaker 2: can be in that circle of being the big dogs
- 36:22Speaker 2: for the UFC is like okay, they got the best
- 36:24Speaker 2: up and coming talent.
- 36:25Speaker 1: I feel like it was a market there for it.
- 36:27Speaker 1: So that's what we are.
- 36:28Speaker 2: You know, we got a big fight coming up September
- 36:30Speaker 2: twenty at then Long Beach Lights out of Strange Fighting
- 36:33Speaker 2: twenty seven. We got two dudes in this car, Tyre
- 36:35Speaker 2: our Fortune. Jake Babying is all this car too, Ronardo,
- 36:38Speaker 2: We got Scott Flores.
- 36:40Speaker 1: We have.
- 36:42Speaker 2: We got some of these next up and coming guys
- 36:45Speaker 2: in the US. They're probably a couple of fights away,
- 36:47Speaker 2: right the US SEA is like, okay, cool, come on
- 36:49Speaker 2: up here. So we got in their contracts. They can
- 36:51Speaker 2: get out of contract with us if they was looking
- 36:54Speaker 2: to go to UFC, which we want.
- 36:56Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I hope, I hope my
- 36:58Speaker 1: motown does buy out the come on get them. Yeah,
- 37:01Speaker 1: you know it's I look at it like man like,
- 37:04Speaker 1: you know, I drink. I drink coke.
- 37:06Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm a coke drinker. But
- 37:07Speaker 3: then again there's pepsi Ot. People love pepsi people love Sprite.
- 37:11Speaker 2: These are also big companies, and so my thing is
- 37:14Speaker 2: if I can introduce enough technologies, which we got a
- 37:17Speaker 2: lot of technology coming, and I can keep growing our
- 37:20Speaker 2: distribution hopefully the top of twenty twenty six, we got
- 37:22Speaker 2: a really really big TV deal. We're going out like
- 37:25Speaker 2: massive one, and so if I can continue to doing that,
- 37:28Speaker 2: then we can be big in our own outright without
- 37:30Speaker 2: actually having to go out worry about computer the UFC,
- 37:31Speaker 2: because we don't want you to.
- 37:32Speaker 3: We want to be bagging what we're doing that makes
- 37:35Speaker 3: us a success. You know, That's what the whole goal
- 37:37Speaker 3: of this thing is.
- 37:39Speaker 1: I say, more power to you, because, like I said,
- 37:41Speaker 1: I've been I've been a fan of the game, and
- 37:42Speaker 1: then how you turn lights out of it from a
- 37:44Speaker 1: light switch in high school to the lights out extreme
- 37:48Speaker 1: fighting now, I mean it's you. We think about the
- 37:50Speaker 1: fighting world. In my mind, of course, UFC is like
- 37:53Speaker 1: the NFL, but you still got you, you know, the XFL,
- 37:55Speaker 1: which is now you guys. You know, I'm sure there's
- 37:59Speaker 1: there's been a tour or something else similar to it.
- 38:01Speaker 1: Bere knuckle fighting as entered the Fray power Slap that's
- 38:05Speaker 1: it's actually a good time. Power slapp is fake. But
- 38:08Speaker 1: like nah that that next up level is pretty much
- 38:11Speaker 1: you guys, Yes now for sure will be that. Yeah,
- 38:15Speaker 1: I love it. I hope you continue growing. Go go
- 38:17Speaker 1: get all that money on y'all. Hey, but I appreciate
- 38:21Speaker 1: you tapping in the boss. I mean, it's it's off
- 38:23Speaker 1: the edge with the podcasts with me your host Cam Jordan.
- 38:26Speaker 1: But it couldn't be anything without guys like you, Sean
- 38:30Speaker 1: come back, sharing a little knowledge, have a little fun
- 38:32Speaker 1: with me.
- 38:32Speaker 4: Bro.
- 38:32Speaker 1: There's been nothing but a blessing having you on.
- 38:34Speaker 3: Appreciated, man, appreciate it. I'll see y'all again this this summer.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Yes, sir, at the Past Fresh Summit. Come on, it'll
- 38:41Speaker 1: be a third annuals of me Max meet Max, Crosby
- 38:44Speaker 1: von Miller altogether hosting that joint. But we got legends
- 38:47Speaker 1: that come through. We got the young guys come through.
- 38:49Speaker 1: One of these days, these Watt brothers are gonna have
- 38:52Speaker 1: to come through and share some of their sauce. Like
- 38:53Speaker 1: we get it. They're they're the old regime. I don't
- 38:58Speaker 1: know what bone mayo, broth I've been drinking. I can't
- 38:59Speaker 1: help you with that. No, that's not here. Come on, man,
- 39:02Speaker 1: just just let's let'spprove the game together. One passers shout
- 39:06Speaker 1: of time. Appreciate you, Sean Merrick, Big Doug lights out
- 39:15Speaker 1: on the forearm with the switch, turn it into a
- 39:17Speaker 1: whole lights out extreme fighting. I mean, come on, it's
- 39:22Speaker 1: that next wave now. And I just love talking football.
- 39:25Speaker 1: Love that he was able to come to our our
- 39:27Speaker 1: SAX summit with me. Max Vaughn. We've talked about it,
- 39:30Speaker 1: like I saw the the way his eyes lit up
- 39:32Speaker 1: as he was talking to other guys, young guys, rookiees
- 39:35Speaker 1: coming in, you know, me him just rapping about swipes
- 39:39Speaker 1: and how we how we come across the past or
- 39:42Speaker 1: how we attack quarterbacks. It's a thing of beauty. Anyways,
- 39:45Speaker 1: thank you, Tell your friends, tell everybody else, Tell anybody
- 39:49Speaker 1: you can about where to find our podcast in the
- 39:51Speaker 1: iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts, and please
- 39:54Speaker 1: watch it on the NFL YouTube channel. I'm telling you,
- 39:57Speaker 1: this was exciting. Everything that I want to do I do.
- 40:00Speaker 1: I do it for I do it for the cause
- 40:02Speaker 1: past rushing baby. But you know what, it's just been
- 40:04Speaker 1: so awesome to see the way he's taking something that
- 40:07Speaker 1: from his community into something a business model, and just
- 40:11Speaker 1: the way that he touched Maryland to San Diego. Man.
- 40:15Speaker 1: You love when somebody has an impact on the community.
- 40:18Speaker 1: We talked about community. I just like, I know that
- 40:20Speaker 1: we lost Sunday and I'm not excited about it, but
- 40:22Speaker 1: I still go to these school visits and now my
- 40:24Speaker 1: school visit this week. I mean I ran into you know,
- 40:27Speaker 1: I went to a super first school off on the
- 40:31Speaker 1: West Bank. I looked at the I looked at the
- 40:33Speaker 1: title and I couldn't even say it three times fast
- 40:34Speaker 1: if I tried. But I mean, if I think about
- 40:37Speaker 1: sharpernay Reu Elementary Middle School, you know, it was an
- 40:42Speaker 1: awesome event being able to talk to these kids start
- 40:44Speaker 1: off with pe and just talking about sports, how we lost,
- 40:48Speaker 1: whatever it was. It sort of helps process. We go
- 40:51Speaker 1: through these classrooms and I'm talking about, you know how
- 40:53Speaker 1: I went to the University California, Berkeley, which is a
- 40:54Speaker 1: number of public school in the nation. However, I was
- 40:56Speaker 1: able to get the conference I needed through the books
- 40:59Speaker 1: that I've read, through the to the history lessons that
- 41:01Speaker 1: I used to love that transferred over to me being
- 41:03Speaker 1: an undergrad legal studies major. Uh, and I had dreams
- 41:06Speaker 1: and aspirations toil football commandeered and I was like, yeah,
- 41:10Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going to u C. Berkeley, I'm going
- 41:13Speaker 1: to the NFL. I'm going to places with the Saints.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Uh to uh, just inspiring that knowledge. But I walked
- 41:19Speaker 1: into one particular classroom and missus t I'm gonna leave
- 41:22Speaker 1: it at missus t she as soon as I hit
- 41:24Speaker 1: the door, we made contact. As she started erupting, she
- 41:27Speaker 1: was looked at me, and I looked at her, and
- 41:28Speaker 1: I knew we had a Saints connection. And she ran
- 41:30Speaker 1: up and she got a she gotta excited. She was, Uh,
- 41:33Speaker 1: she was overcome with emotion. And that just tells you
- 41:46Speaker 1: a little bit about the Saints and their fan base.
- 41:48Speaker 1: Like it's real. The connection that we have is like this,
- 41:51Speaker 1: said Padac with Twins film, Like she saw me, she
- 41:54Speaker 1: was just like I was just talking about, you know
- 41:57Speaker 1: about how she had one of the Saints player to
- 42:00Speaker 1: come to a classroom. And there I am on a
- 42:02Speaker 1: Monday morning, bodies sore, voice gone from screaming, from cheering
- 42:07Speaker 1: and fighting to get it back, and I'm coming to
- 42:09Speaker 1: her class and she was appreciative, and I was just
- 42:12Speaker 1: I was just so overwhelmed with being appreciated and being
- 42:14Speaker 1: appreciative for her because not only is she getting up
- 42:17Speaker 1: every day dealing with twenty five kids a classroom and
- 42:20Speaker 1: she helping mold our youth, but she still has that
- 42:23Speaker 1: love for the Saints. Still. She ended up saying, like,
- 42:26Speaker 1: you know how much she loves the Saints, how much.
- 42:28Speaker 1: She has been a fan of the Saints for so long,
- 42:31Speaker 1: and I'm just overly appreciative of every time I walk
- 42:34Speaker 1: into a classroom, not only the kids are being receptives
- 42:37Speaker 1: a message, but the teachers are being receptive and appreciative.
- 42:40Speaker 1: Because we put our bodies on the line each and
- 42:42Speaker 1: every Sunday. We put our bodies on line each and
- 42:44Speaker 1: every day we go to practice. You never know when
- 42:46Speaker 1: it could be in the next play, could be a
- 42:47Speaker 1: last play. But the way we give our energy, the
- 42:50Speaker 1: way we give our time, the way we try and
- 42:52Speaker 1: give back to the community as football players. And it's tough,
- 42:55Speaker 1: it's tiring, and yet it's so rewarding when you walk
- 42:58Speaker 1: into a classroom like that. So mssus t over there
- 43:00Speaker 1: at uh charby nay are you I'm not even sure
- 43:03Speaker 1: if I'm saying that rel relux. I'm gonna say it's
- 43:07Speaker 1: for you as a French. But it's such a blessing
- 43:10Speaker 1: to be a blessing. On that note, appreciate y'all. Tune
- 43:14Speaker 1: in again wherever you get your your your podcast. iHeart
- 43:18Speaker 1: app you talk about you know, Apple podcasts. Wherever you
- 43:21Speaker 1: can find it off the edge with me your host
- 43:25Speaker 1: Cam Jordan. Appreciate your God, bless to the Niners.
- 43:28Speaker 3: We go