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Fake Radio Names and Poop Knives · Rik and that Michele Chick

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  Welcome to Rick and that Michelle chick.
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  I'm that Michelle chick. That I'm Rick.
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  So I thought before we get into our fake radio names, I have
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  some business to take care of of the last podcast.
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  So episode 5, because I said the the Palm Springs of Washington
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  sign, we talked about it that you wanting to steal it for the
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  stunt. I said the Palm Springs of
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  Yakima, which correction this sign says welcome to the Palm
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  Springs of Washington to Yakima, which everybody jokes about
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  that. I just for those for those
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  people who don't live here and see the sign and understand, I
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  wanted to make that correction and.
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  I think the sign is still there, right?
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  Yes, it is. I just passed by it the other
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  day. He.
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  He passed away sadly and I think there I bet there's some clause
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  in his will that said basically what to do with that sign.
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  And I don't think it's it's his property.
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  He owns that spot. On the because it sits right
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  next to the freeway. But he, but I pretty much
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  believe he owns it. He owns the sign.
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  He owns the leg that's on the sign, Yeah.
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  I mean, it's technically a billboard, so he probably has
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  some kind of billboard license because you can't just put him
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  billboards everywhere, so. Yeah, interesting.
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  I think that I believe he actually owns that land.
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  That's where the sign's located. So you just can't come and take
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  it or the city can't just do away with it because it's
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  technically private property. Right.
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  The city can't come and tear it down because they're tired of
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  people making fun. Of us it's cool because I, to me
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  it's a landmark sign. I know a lot of people don't
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  agree with it, but I, I, I think it's a landmark sign.
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  I think it makes Yakima unique and God knows Yakima needs
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  things to make it unique besides meth and and you know, drive by
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  shootings. That's all I'm saying.
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  We're better now. Oh.
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  Absolutely. You know what, I learned a very
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  valuable lesson, Michelle, about Yakima because when I first
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  moved, when I first moved there, no, it was the mid 2000s and
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  Mike Bastinelli, I was saying, gosh, I go, I go God, Yakima's
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  such a horrible place to live. And he, he educated me.
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  He says you don't realize it was way worse.
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  And, and they called downtown the whole back in the day and
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  that and, and crime was triple or quadruple the rate it is
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  today. So I mean, the good news, you
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  get a shooting or a, you know, a murder every every couple days.
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  Yeah. No, we don't have that.
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  So we're good. Right.
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  And so I was educated on that. So I couldn't just you know, but
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  it was so funny my my tenure in Yakima, it was funny when we
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  moved away, my ex-wife Pokey said, man, I'm so glad to be out
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  of there. And I go, what do you mean?
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  She goes, well, she goes there was a killing every single day
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  and I went there was so I was oblivious because we were doing
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  all the radio stuff all the time.
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  So I so my first time around, I was totally unaware of its crime
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  rate. I didn't know, but she knew.
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  But back then we we had to play the news, the recorded news,
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  even on KFFM. I was a kid.
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  I was 28. I didn't, you know, Now I'm way
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  much more into the news today now that I'm old.
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  But back then, yeah, I didn't, you know, unless it affected me,
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  I didn't really care, I guess, you know, call it, call it.
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  You just call it age. Right.
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  I think that just goes to show that you shouldn't just assume
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  things or think things about certain places or people or
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  everything in general. It still does have triple the
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  crime rate of the national average.
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  I'm not picking on it. That is the truth.
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  I mean we do, but there are other places.
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  I'm sure Tacoma is worse so. Of course, I think, yeah.
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  I mean, there's always going to be actually Fife, WA.
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  Right. Fife right outside of Tacoma has
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  actually got the highest crime rate right but.
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  There because we, yeah, there we, we, the population is, is
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  five times greater than Yakima, so.
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  Absolutely. And.
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  Every place you live has good or bad, you know Beverly Hills, you
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  had OJ, come on. And the, the, you know, the
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  Brent, what is it? The Brentwood.
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  Brentwood. Yeah, Brentwood, part of town.
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  Exactly. No one, no one expected that.
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  So there's bad people everywhere.
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  It doesn't matter if you're rich.
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  Poor just happens to be. It seems like more poor people
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  die than rich, but it still happens.
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  Yeah, OK. Following that.
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  Great. Great little.
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  Great little segment, a great way to start off our podcast.
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  So let's talk about our fake radio names.
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  You can go first if you want. OK, well, it doesn't matter.
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  Interesting. I always tell people, RIKMIKALS,
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  come on, does that not look fake to you?
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  Like I said, when I searched for our podcast, there were a lot of
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  Rick that that came up that were Rik and I was a little bit
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  shocked thinking, wait, like I have never seen this other than
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  your name. Somebody spelled that way.
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  So. So it's really interesting.
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  When I first got started in radio 1988, Clarkston, WA, I,
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  my, my first radio name wasn't Rick Michaels.
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  I I think you know that it wasn't Rick Michaels.
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  I think so. I think we'll talk.
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  To so when I first started, it was a country radio station and
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  we were, we were Radio Rangers. So.
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  So you had to be. So you would have been Ranger
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  Michelle. Oh, so everything had to be
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  Ranger Ranger. Right.
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  And so to me, I was like and and my middle name is Frederick.
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  So I and I've always liked the name Rick.
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  I I do like that name. So I want to be Ranger Virgil.
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  Right and absolutely not. That was not even a a
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  consideration. My real name is Virgil and I
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  really had a it took me a long time to accept my name and now I
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  love it. I mean, I wish I wish more
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  people would call me Virgil. They don't always surprise me
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  when they do call me Virgil. But and it's my great
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  grandfather's name. If you're just curious.
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  So, but, but coming out of high school and being made fun of, it
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  was like, I did not want to start my day on the radio as,
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  oh, there's Virgil. Oh, and then they, and then they
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  would have made fun of, I mean, it's interesting.
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  They don't make fun of me now. They think it's pretty cool.
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  But back then they probably would have made fun of me if I,
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  if, oh, there's Virgil on the radio.
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  And so, and so I was Ranger Rick.
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  So my first radio name was Ranger Rick.
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  And we did that for about 6 months.
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  And then the program director came to us and goes, OK, scratch
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  that, scratch that. We're not, we're not Radio
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  Rangers anymore. And so you, you got to come up
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  with the last name. And so my first, so I sat down
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  and remember back in the day, we did midnight to six.
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  It wasn't like we weren't doing the good shifts.
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  You're not middays, you're not mornings, you're not afternoons.
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  And so I had written, so I had written on a piece of paper.
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  So I had the RIKI, always had the RIKI, always had the Rik.
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  And then I went with Rick V So my second name was Rick V and so
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  V for Virgil. Great.
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  Rick V. So I stopped by my dad's
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  transmission shop. Rick.
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  DS right? Rick V, Rick V Rick V in the
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  morning. That sounds cool, right?
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  Rick V, Actually, that's a pretty good name actually.
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  Right. So interesting enough, I stopped
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  by my dad's mechanic shop or his transmission shop, and he goes,
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  he goes, what's your name on the radio?
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  What are you saying? I said, I'm Rick V Rick V, He
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  goes, oh, it sounds like you're saying Rick Bean.
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  Rick Bean. Now, there was a kid I went to
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  high school with. His name is Scott Bean, who beat
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  me out for the editor of the school newspaper.
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  So I had an intense rivalry with Scott Bean.
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  And when my dad said, oh, you're Rick Bean, I almost wanted to
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  like that was it? So.
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  So I sat down and I started trying to, to think of the radio
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  name. So Rik always had Rik, Rick V
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  And so I was sitting there and so I was like Rick McAdams.
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  I mean, I was doing a bunch of different, you know, Rick Scott,
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  I was doing a bunch of it. And I don't know how, but I, I
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  wrote Michaels, Rick Michaels. And then I went, oh, RIKMIK.
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  And that's where it came from. So and then I've been almost 40,
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  I mean, almost 40 years now, Rick Michaels and that I mean,
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  that's really that's my air name, Rick Michaels.
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  But it was so funny how that I looked at it, went Rik and then
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  Mik, and it was almost like a light went off.
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  Great. And he went, oh, Rick Michaels
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  and that works. And so many people, the good
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  news about it is through my career is people that don't even
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  know me in or in our industry, they see that name.
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  They're like, well, I know that name.
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  I've seen it in the trades or I've seen it in interviews and
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  different things like that. So the nice thing is it does
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  stand out. I mean, there's other versions
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  of that Michaels, but not mine. But not if you do Rick Michaels.
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  No other Rick Michaels like that shows up but me.
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  So that's the nice thing about it.
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  So I was, I was branding myself social, influencing myself long
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  before I didn't know it at the time.
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  Yeah, I didn't know it. I just thought it was a quirky
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  way to spell Michaels. And then interesting enough, my
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  son's middle name is Logan Michael, which the MIKAL.
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  So he does have a, a version of my radio name in his middle
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  name. And I have to suspect Michelle
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  with your name because your first son's name is Matthew.
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  Yes. So did that happen?
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  I. Yeah.
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  Is that where it's kind of because I look at your name
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  like, OK, that had to come from somewhere?
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  Yeah, so my real first name is Michelle and it is spelled with
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  1L. Literally my parents, that's how
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  they spelled it. But in my grade there were 4
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  Michelle's and the other three all had two L's.
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  I mean, it sucked because you know the little name, license
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  plate. Oh yeah.
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  You can't find yourself. Trinkets.
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  Yeah, You cannot find your name. You.
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  Can't find Virgil. In the gift shop with 1L.
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  And so also like you, my, my radio name, Michelle Matthews
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  wasn't my first one. So when I was at skill center,
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  the radio broadcasting class, you know, we were taught that we
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  had to come up with a radio name.
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  And I was 15 at the time. So I thought that I was going to
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  be Cookie. That was my radio name at the
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  Skill Center. Cookie.
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  Interesting. And then when then when I got a
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  real job at KX Double D doing the overnight weekends, you
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  know, I had to come up with a real radio name, you know, you
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  can't be called Cookie. And so that.
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  That could have been popular. I bet it would have.
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  Been you don't know. I mean it sounds more like a
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  stripper name than a radio D JS name.
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  I didn't say it, you said it. Hey, hey, we were all thinking
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  it. Let's be real.
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  And so I was just sitting there eating some M&M's, which I love
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  M&M's. And so I saw, you know, the M&N
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  and I thought okay, well, I want my radio name initials to be
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  M&M. And so like you, I started
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  running through different and last names and somehow I ended
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  up on Matthew's. And normally in Matthew's or
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  Matthew is spelled with two T's. And so to be different, just
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  like my first name, I spell it with one T And I don't know if
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  it was like consciously that I did that to Matthew growing up.
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  I think. Well, I think like the reasoning
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  for that was so that people couldn't call him Matt, which I
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  don't really know if that's, you know, a good reason or not.
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  Good. I mean, people would call him
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  Matt if his real name was Matthew.
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  They'd call him Matt. Yeah.
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  People still called him Matt, so right.
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  I mean, it didn't eliminate that from happening, but so yeah,
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  that's nothing special. No big fancy story for how it.
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  Came Eminem. That was something new for me.
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  There's been some really great ones, radio names.
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  I had a friend named Laura, and she went by Abby Normal and I
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  oh, and I love that. Yeah.
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  That was my early day. I love that.
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  So. And then also, here's a little
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  behind the scene about I've always felt about radio names.
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  Now, you're pretty unique in your radio name by the fact that
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  you have a different last name, but a bunch of our friends.
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  So there, there's Todd Lyons, there's Kurt Cartier, there's
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  Timmy, there's all these people. One thing I learned and
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  discovered was generally, and this is just me speaking, if you
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  travel from town to town, those are generally the people who
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  have the fake names. But if you are born and raised
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  in a town, I've learned that Dave Edel, Lance Tormey, Todd
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  Lyons, they use their real names.
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  Right, but they have decent names that could, you know, be
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  radio names. Absolutely, absolutely.
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  And I always, and I always wondered about that.
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  Did they really want people to see?
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  I didn't when I first got started, I didn't want people to
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  know it's me, right? I didn't want them to know it
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  was me. I wanted to be, I wanted, I
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  mean, it's almost like having a secret identity.
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  I really, I really wanted to be a whole and, and, and, and for
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  me, even today, Rick Michaels is a real exaggeration of, of who I
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  really am in a sense. Because you know, I've had this
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  discussion before. I turn it on and off when it
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  comes to radio or being a radio personality, I turn it on and
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  off. So for me, it's like I'm an
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  exaggerated version when I'm Rick Michaels, when I'm out in
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  the public and they meet me, it's the the high energy, great
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  to meet you. Hey, buddy, how you doing?
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  You know, but but I would not talk.
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  I would not if you were in a grocery store, if I was at a
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  party, I would not be that exaggeration.
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  And and the reason why we talked about that is I feel that people
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  have an expectation when they meet you.
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  It's kind of like meeting their favorite celebrity.
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  And, and again, I'm not saying we're celebrities, but in a
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  sense, you know, we're, we're public figures in our, in our
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  home, in our own towns, I guess. And so I just, it's almost like
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  I never wanted people to have, I wanted to be the person they
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  heard on the radio in person as well.
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  So when you meet your favorite artist or your favorite painter
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  or whoever is your favorite, you really want that meeting to, I
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  guess, be special. And, and, and rather than
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  because you and I have, we've met people went, oh, that would.
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  Wow, that was yeah. Yes.
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  Like, Oh yeah, you know, and I and I, and I really believe it
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  takes so little of us to #1 be nice to be nice to people.
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  And I think you've seen that in my career.
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  I'm pretty much nice to almost every, everybody until, until
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  you make an enemy of me. And then I'm going to then I'm
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  going to gut you like a fish. Enemy for life.
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  Oh, I don't. Yeah.
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  I hold a grudge. I hold a grudge.
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  But I really believe that when people meet you, they.
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  When you say it's so, it's so funny because I don't know about
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  Jay, but when my wife goes out in public and they're like, oh,
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  what does your husband do for a living?
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  Oh, well, he, he, he works in radio.
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  The first thing they always ask is, is he on the radio?
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  Right. That's never.
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  Does he sell advertising? No, the radio stations.
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  Now I just want you. Even know that's a thing that
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  haven't worked in I know. Well, exactly, but the the
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  hilarity is the. Other jobs?
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  There are other jobs at the radio station, but the hilarity
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  is the salesperson and the general manager people.
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  Anybody involved with sales makes generally way more money
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  than the disc. Jockey, yeah.
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  Unless you're a big morning, unless you're a morning disc
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  jockey and you have a big contract.
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  So. But that's the first thing I
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  always ask. Is he on the radio?
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  And so I just have always felt that for meeting, you know, if
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  you meet me and they're like, oh, hi there.
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  Hey, this is Rick Michaels. And then they say, oh, he's on
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  the radio. I feel like I have an obligation
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  to be what they expect me to be, right.
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  Do you ever feel that way? Do you ever feel that way?
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  Do you feel like, Oh yeah, you know, like, do you feel like you
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  have to be on stage a little bit?
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  Right. You have to be on, you have to
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  turn it on for the people because a lot of us, like we've
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  talked about before, are introverts in our real life.
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  And then being on the radio allows us to have that other
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  side to our personalities. So it's like a Doctor Jekyll,
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  Mr. Hyde personality is how I always explained it to people.
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  And when you meet people like the celebrities that we've
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  talked about, that we've met, it's like, well, you know, when
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  you're rude to your fans, it's like that's how you got there.
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  Like people being your fans is how you got there.
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  And it's the same with our radio listeners.
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  It's like they're listeners because they like us for
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  whatever reason. And we need to be appreciative
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  of that. So that's kind of the mentality
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  I always went into. Whatever we did is like these
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  people love us and you know, we need to love them back in the
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  same respect. I think there's two ways to be
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  in and my favorite way to be is I was, I was watching ATV show
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  and it had it had William Shatner on it and it had Henry
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  Winkler who was the fawns and they were over and they were
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  overseas and they were, it was a, you know, about old guys or
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  whatever, but they were traveling the world and people,
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  of course, they were famous. And so any time Henry Winkler,
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  the fawns approached anybody, he was the nicest, kindest signing
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  autographs. Everybody loved Henry Winkler
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  and William Shatner even asked like he goes, your autograph's
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  worth money. And Bill or Bill Shatner or
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  William Shatner has a horrific reputation of of like, if he's
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  not working, he's not going to sign an autograph.
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  He's not going to stop down for a selfie.
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  He's not going to shake your hand.
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  And, and you even saw this in this TV show where he literally
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  goes, you know, my money, my autograph's worth money.
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  And, and I don't just, I just don't hand it out.
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  And I've, and I've actually, I've met William Shatter.
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  We met him at a Comic Con for 2.5 seconds Money, money and,
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  and, and, and I love Captain Kirk.
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  Captain Kirk's one of my favorites.
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  But luckily I knew that going in because I, I read enough stories
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  about him that he's not and they're again and they're and
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  they're but on. But on one hand, I kind of, I
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  kind of agree with it because I remember one time I saw Ted
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  Nugent, which I'm not a Ted Nugent fan right off the bat,
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  but Ted Nugent was outside a venue and the paparazzi were
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  giving him stuff to sign. And he goes, you got $300.00 and
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  the guy goes, what do you mean? And he's like, he goes, I know
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  you're just going to flip this on eBay, you know, you're not a
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  fan. So.
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  And so I think sadly, what's happened with a lot of
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  celebrities and even with comic cons and all these different
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  things is they now have to charge because people will turn
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  and flip it on eBay. And so and so you have to be a
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  true fan, I guess, if that makes sense, to get one of those
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  autographs. So I've always felt if you're
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  going to meet me, not that we have that, not that we have that
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  big of a fan club, but it's nice.
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  But it's nice to meet our fans. And again, I always, I try to
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  treat them, you know, with kindness and grace.
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  Shaylee calls us Z celebrities. We're not like D list, we're AZ
• 18:36
  list. She calls us AZ List.
• 18:39
  Absolutely. Trust me, I I, I do not put on
• 18:42
  arrows. I absolutely know it used to be
• 18:44
  the D list, but I guess we're going to be the Z list dropped.
• 18:46
  We have dropped down to the bottom of the alphabet.
• 18:49
  We're going to go. I know we're going to start
• 18:51
  talking about what your daughter said.
• 18:52
  I will say really quickly, my son one time said I was
• 18:54
  irrelevant. So he goes, he goes, He goes.
• 18:57
  Radio's irrelevant, dad. You don't matter.
• 19:01
  You don't matter. Something she would currently
• 19:03
  say about. Radio which leads right into
• 19:04
  your daughter because you recently.
• 19:06
  Well, I I don't know if my son has ever said that I was old at
• 19:09
  least the good news my son's never said I was old.
• 19:11
  My son I I'm very fortunate that my son thinks I'm going to live
• 19:15
  forever. Because I, I mean, that's.
• 19:17
  Well, because we've talked about, I said, you know, hey.
• 19:19
  I'm nice of him. Well, he.
• 19:21
  In his mind, he doesn't realize I'm getting older.
• 19:24
  I know I am. I'm, I mean, I know I am, but in
• 19:27
  him. And I said, hey, we got to
• 19:28
  prepare for when I pass away. So what do you mean, Dad?
• 19:30
  You're going to like, you're 97 years old.
• 19:32
  I'm like well, and I go, well. It's nice that you're an
• 19:34
  optimist, son, but I could croak tomorrow.
• 19:38
  Great. So she, I mean, she calls me old
• 19:41
  all the time, but she said I'm officially old because my
• 19:44
  husband and I finally broke down and decided that we needed to
• 19:48
  buy reclining furniture. So we're getting a reclining
• 19:51
  loveseat. We opted, yeah, we opted for the
• 19:55
  power reclining model, which it was only a a few dollars more
• 19:59
  than the manual. And so she told me that I am old
• 20:04
  and now I'm rich because all her.
• 20:07
  Friends, parents who have the power reclining furniture are
• 20:12
  rich. And I was like, you don't have
• 20:14
  any rich friends, First off, So like, what are you even talking
• 20:18
  about? That's so funny.
• 20:20
  So, so yeah. So I guess I am officially over
• 20:24
  the hill now that I have reclining power, reclining
• 20:28
  furniture. I mean, which is kind of
• 20:29
  appropriate because we are expecting our first grandchild
• 20:32
  at the end of this month. Actually it could be any day
• 20:35
  now. And then Matthew is coming home
• 20:37
  this weekend, my oldest to go to his 10 year class reunion.
• 20:41
  So I guess it tracks. She's.
• 20:42
  Well, she's right. You can tell Shaylee when it
• 20:45
  comes to reclining furniture until you get 2 like recliners
• 20:49
  next to each other like old people have his and her
• 20:52
  recliner. See.
• 20:53
  Great. Because you said it was a love
• 20:55
  seat, so you both can sit on it, right?
• 20:56
  Well, that's not old yet. That's not old and.
• 20:58
  We were kind, well we were going back and forth like do we get
• 21:01
  the separate recliners or do we get the love seat, which we
• 21:05
  currently have a regular couch and love seat and we always sit
• 21:07
  next to each other on the love seat.
• 21:10
  So the whole of getting the reclining love seat is that we
• 21:13
  can sit together and you can't do that.
• 21:15
  No, no, you can still make out on that.
• 21:17
  You know I'm saying you can still you can still make out and
• 21:19
  have sex on it. So but but but when?
• 21:23
  You recliner. Bunker chairs.
• 21:26
  Then you know you're old. Right.
• 21:28
  Or the twin beds or separate bedrooms.
• 21:30
  Oh, twin beds. Which actually.
• 21:32
  Separate bedrooms is like a a pretty popular thing now that.
• 21:35
  I've have you guys talked about. Yeah, right.
• 21:37
  Exactly. Yeah, that.
• 21:38
  Yeah, you definitely then yeah, you know, you're old.
• 21:41
  But if you guys are in both separate bedrooms.
• 21:42
  Basically. I mean, luckily Jay doesn't
• 21:44
  snore so I haven't really had that problem.
• 21:46
  Had to kick him out of there. Great, so so I've been fortunate
• 21:50
  compared to some of my friends. You can still make shitty go
• 21:54
  once you say well mom and dad can still make out on the love
• 21:56
  seat. She would just walk out of the
• 21:59
  room. She wouldn't even say EW.
• 22:01
  She'd be gross. Gross.
• 22:04
  OK, well this is this will be a good transition into gross
• 22:07
  things because I wanted to ask you if you knew what a poop POOP
• 22:16
  knife is a. Poop knife.
• 22:19
  Yes. My gosh, don't tell me someone's
• 22:22
  like pooping and and cutting. I mean, you know.
• 22:26
  That's kind of what I thought too.
• 22:27
  OK, so I went. On TikTok.
• 22:30
  Right so I went on TikTok and I have not been on TikTok in like
• 22:32
  6 months and I don't even know why this lady came up in my for
• 22:37
  you page. OK so she takes this container
• 22:40
  that's on the back of her toilet.
• 22:42
  She takes it off the back of the toilet and she pulls out this
• 22:46
  like sponge looking thing that's on like a stick handle and it's
• 22:50
  like they're silosillium sponge. So one has like a longer handle
• 22:55
  and one has a shorter handle. And like 1 is for wiping for
• 22:59
  like pee, one is for wiping for like poop, right?
• 23:02
  OK. And she explains that they keep
• 23:05
  it in this vinegar and that's what keeps it clean and last
• 23:08
  longer blah blah blah. And then she pulls out this
• 23:10
  knife out, it's in like a sheave or whatever, the knife thing.
• 23:16
  And she says, and this is our poop knife.
• 23:18
  And but that's all she says. She doesn't explain what a poop
• 23:21
  knife is. So I go down this rabbit hole
• 23:23
  because I, I thought the same thing you did.
• 23:26
  Like what? Are you doing?
• 23:27
  Cutting the poop from your behind.
• 23:29
  Like I'm like what? My first.
• 23:31
  Thought on right, so no. So they a poop knife and this is
• 23:36
  a real thing again. I went down this whole rabbit
• 23:39
  hole that it didn't want to go down, but it's for when you poop
• 23:44
  and there's, you know, a lot in the toilet and you cut it up so
• 23:49
  that it goes down the toilet better.
• 23:52
  Who isn't that crazy? Well, yeah, I just went and
• 23:54
  looked at it on Amazon.com. No, they still.
• 23:57
  Actually. No, not, not going.
• 23:59
  No, no, no. At first I thought it was a joke
• 24:03
  when I saw her for you when it when I saw her video come on.
• 24:06
  Right. But it's close.
• 24:08
  I mean, I see it, it's right there.
• 24:10
  I mean, it's grub, become honest.
• 24:14
  Isn't that crazy? Only a 12 year old is
• 24:16
  fascinated. A 12 year old male is fascinated
• 24:19
  with their poop, I guess. I mean, that's.
• 24:21
  Horrified because like you I thought why are people cutting
• 24:25
  their poop up their butt? Like what is going on?
• 24:28
  Well, you, well, you, you know me.
• 24:30
  I I've never bathroom humor to me has never been.
• 24:34
  I don't know why, but it's like flatulence jokes. 12 year old
• 24:38
  junior high. I just, I've never even my my
• 24:41
  wife and Kyron and Logan, they just laugh.
• 24:43
  I'm like, what's so funny about poop?
• 24:46
  I mean, no, I'm like, yeah, I'm like what?
• 24:49
  You know, it's not that I'm above them.
• 24:50
  It's like what is you know, it's like I, you know what, what was
• 24:53
  it back in the day, the Jersey boys and they would have acd of
• 24:57
  people shitting in the shitter and no, but they thought that
• 25:00
  was funny. I'm like how I explain to me how
• 25:04
  somebody crapping and you recording it is funny, you know,
• 25:08
  or I remember seeing when it first came on, when the Internet
• 25:12
  first came alive, 2 girls in a cup.
• 25:14
  Have you ever heard of 2 girls in a cup?
• 25:17
  No, not no. I'm going to have to Google
• 25:19
  that. 2 girls, 2 girls crapping in a cup.
• 25:23
  That's what it is. Yep, Yep.
• 25:25
  No. I mean, I get the poop.
• 25:28
  I get it but. And it gets billions of views.
• 25:33
  Billions of views. So yeah, poop knife.
• 25:37
  I've never heard of a poop knife.
• 25:38
  Me either, Michelle. Getting one because you know,
• 25:42
  the Jones have one, so Michelle getting one.
• 25:44
  Absolutely not. I was like, I'm like, this is so
• 25:47
  I mean, I might buy one as like a joke gift for somebody now,
• 25:50
  but. I'm thinking stocking stuffers
• 25:52
  for the kids. Oh my gosh, I.
• 25:53
  Just think it would be so horrified I.
• 25:56
  Think stocking stuffers next year.
• 25:58
  Mom, dad, what's that? What the hell is this?
• 26:02
  I could just see Shaylee's face. She'd be like, Oh my God, we're
• 26:06
  gonna, we're going to commit you right now.
• 26:08
  Get her. Get her a poop knife, that'll be
• 26:11
  great. Which we've had the discussion,
• 26:13
  so did you have a puke bowl or a puke pot?
• 26:16
  What was that? Have you heard of that?
• 26:18
  Like having a puke bowl or a puke pot when you were growing
• 26:20
  up? Did you have one of those?
• 26:23
  I'm trying to think I we might have had a bowl.
• 26:26
  I think if anything, when you were, when you were sick.
• 26:29
  Yeah, right. You know.
• 26:31
  Right, like laying right next to your head in bed.
• 26:33
  Yeah, if I had the flu or something like that, I think my
• 26:36
  foster mom would bring in a a bowl of some sort.
• 26:38
  And that's where you would. Yeah.
• 26:40
  I mean, I've seen, I've seen bedpans and crap, but I've
• 26:43
  never, I mean, but even at even in this, even in the 70s and
• 26:46
  80s, to me that was old people stuff.
• 26:48
  Right, which I had a few, I had a few.
• 26:50
  I had a few pot growing up and then so I passed down that to my
• 26:55
  kids. Like, you know, when you're
• 26:57
  sick, like you said, you, you have a like, so I, we had like a
• 27:01
  like whatever the biggest pot my mom had.
• 27:03
  Wow. So that would be like laying
• 27:05
  next to us. And so I passed down the puke
• 27:07
  pot to my kids by by using like the biggest pot we had, which
• 27:12
  was usually like my pot for like soup or it was like Teflon pot
• 27:16
  that would easily wash all that that gross puke.
• 27:20
  And so one day it would be laying next to a kids head and
• 27:23
  the next day I'd be making stupid I.
• 27:28
  Mean again, you can wash it out, I guess, right?
• 27:30
  I guess you can. Yeah, a little hot water and
• 27:34
  Dawn dish soap and it's as good as new.
• 27:36
  Nobody ever. Nobody ever knew.
• 27:38
  Do you know how many times I made stuff for people and fed
• 27:40
  it? Oh, I'm sure.
• 27:41
  I'm sure I'm. Sure you did.
• 27:43
  Absolutely. Kids they don't know.
• 27:47
  They don't know. I mean, come on, there's the
• 27:49
  five second rule, different things like.
• 27:52
  Yes. Come on.
• 27:54
  Which when Shaylee was, she was probably probably about 3 and
• 27:58
  she had a whole bag of Skittles and she dropped it on the floor
• 28:02
  and she yelled. Hurry up, hurry.
• 28:08
  Up as we're trying to scramble to pick up all her Skittles, so.
• 28:12
  Yeah, I've got. I have a piece of piece of
• 28:16
  Reese's Peanut Buttercup drops in the ground.
• 28:18
  Like I say, I never didn't pick it up, wipe it off and say Nope,
• 28:21
  not going to waste. Yeah, now I never did that with
• 28:24
  poop. So there you go.
• 28:26
  That's good. Good to know.
• 28:27
  And I never either. I guess I'm just not weird that
• 28:30
  way because I know there's probably people that look back
• 28:32
  at the toilet and go I put out a big one layer.
• 28:35
  I mean, I can make jokes about it, sure, but I don't recall.
• 28:39
  Yeah, I'm like. But I'm not purposely buying a
• 28:42
  knife to cut it up. No.
• 28:44
  That's to go down the toilet. That's I mean.
• 28:47
  If there's issues with your plumbing, maybe.
• 28:50
  There might be. If you're putting out logs like
• 28:53
  that, you might want to go see the.
• 28:55
  Doctor. Go to the doctor.
• 28:58
  Say about that. Might want to go see your GI
• 29:01
  especially. You might want that, yeah.
• 29:05
  Oh, goodness. OK, let's move on.
• 29:06
  This. This is something not
• 29:09
  disgusting. It's going to gross out our
• 29:10
  audience. People are never going to listen
• 29:13
  to us again after this. But I know that the new Superman
• 29:17
  movie is going to start. Have you bought your tickets?
• 29:20
  I have not yet tried to negotiate with Megan on
• 29:23
  Superman. I, It's so funny is I definitely
• 29:28
  I, I'm trying to be conscientious of my wife rather
• 29:32
  than going to the very first showing.
• 29:33
  So back back in the day, back in the day when the Marvel movie
• 29:37
  started becoming the big thing, I'd go see the movie like the
• 29:40
  first showing. If it was at noon on Thursday, I
• 29:43
  would go see the first showing and then I would take them later
• 29:46
  and Megan would look over at me. And because I made no facial
• 29:50
  movements of any kind, she goes, you've already seen this.
• 29:54
  So I've tried to be a little bit better about not going
• 29:57
  immediately to the. You know, I do want to see it.
• 29:59
  So you can't go to the first showing, is what you're saying.
• 30:02
  You have to be. I mean, I thought about it, but
• 30:04
  I'm trying to be I'm trying to be more considerate in my old
• 30:07
  age and and not not having to rush out.
• 30:10
  Now here's the big and there's two kinds of people in the
• 30:13
  world. I don't know which one you are.
• 30:14
  Michelle is I already know the plot of the movie like I want.
• 30:20
  I want to say next question. OK, so yeah, not to deviate from
• 30:25
  what you're going to say because I've been seeing a lot of, well,
• 30:30
  basically it was a Fox News headline that the new Superman
• 30:32
  movie was woke. And I'm like, well, isn't it
• 30:35
  just a remake of the old one? So you tell me, is this a is
• 30:38
  this a whole new storyline or is this like a remake of the
• 30:42
  original Superman? I mean, we can.
• 30:45
  We can get down to brass tacks. So Superman was created in 1938
• 30:50
  by two kids out of Cleveland, OH.
• 30:53
  And they interested enough the very first issue of Superman
• 30:56
  Action comics #1 which is of course worth millions of
• 30:58
  dollars. He was a public crusader.
• 31:01
  So now he didn't have all the powers he has today, but he but
• 31:05
  he could jump, you know, 8th of a mile.
• 31:07
  He had super strength, different things like that.
• 31:09
  He had the red and white, red, blue costume, you know, with the
• 31:13
  S on it. And he looked more like a circus
• 31:15
  strong man in the very first appearance with a Cape.
• 31:18
  But and he you know, he lifted a car up over his head, but he in
• 31:23
  the first few issues, he fought wife beaters, corrupt
• 31:27
  politicians or was the Super villain Lex Luthor hadn't been
• 31:30
  created yet. So Superman is your very first
• 31:34
  super true superhero. Now, there was other pulp heroes
• 31:37
  at the time. There was the phantom, the
• 31:39
  shadow, The Lone Ranger, but they weren't super powered.
• 31:43
  So Superman is the archetype of the very first super powered
• 31:47
  being. And so and interesting enough,
• 31:51
  you know, he fought injustice and politicians was one of them
• 31:57
  that you don't think about and little and and corruption and
• 32:01
  city officials that are corrupt and different things like that.
• 32:03
  And Clark can't chase in a story, things like that.
• 32:07
  So has Superman always been woke?
• 32:09
  Yeah, I mean from 1938. I mean, I feel like like, OK,
• 32:15
  not everything is woke just because you don't agree with it.
• 32:19
  Like I feel like that is just getting slapped on everything
• 32:23
  regardless of whether it is or isn't.
• 32:26
  It's just because you don't agree with that particular
• 32:30
  whatever. So like whatever the storyline
• 32:32
  is in Superman, they don't agree with it so now it's woke.
• 32:36
  Well, I think what has changed is what the the tagline.
• 32:39
  They changed the tagline, which has upset a lot of people.
• 32:42
  So truth, truth, justice in the American way.
• 32:46
  So it got changed to truth, justice in the human way.
• 32:50
  Oh, and is that what they're upset about?
• 32:51
  Well, that well, oh, they're oh, yeah.
• 32:53
  But but again, what makes I at least what I feel about
• 32:57
  Superman, what makes Superman such a great character is he's
• 33:00
  supposed to be the best of us. You know, we're we're supposed
• 33:03
  to be as kind as super. And that's, and that's one thing
• 33:06
  that that even the reviews are saying in the movie, this
• 33:08
  Superman, even with animals, he's like, he's through the roof
• 33:13
  in terms of being kind to people.
• 33:15
  So he's true to true to the court Well.
• 33:19
  Yeah, you know, so it's like, so if kindness, if kindness is
• 33:22
  woke, then I guess we're, you know, I would like to think most
• 33:24
  people are woke. I mean, but that's what I what
• 33:27
  it comes down to. A lot of people think a lot of
• 33:30
  people think have an empathy makes you woke.
• 33:33
  Now, I can tell you that for me, and I even talked about it in my
• 33:37
  book about Superman is, you know, I don't necessarily have a
• 33:41
  favorite superhero because I love all the superheroes, but
• 33:43
  Superman was my first. And so for me as a foster kid
• 33:47
  being shoved from home to home, I could relate to Superman and
• 33:53
  his kindness. And no matter how bad people
• 33:56
  treat you, you know all you You should be able to turn around
• 34:00
  and just be nothing but kind to people.
• 34:03
  Right. So don't lose that humanity.
• 34:05
  Yeah, because he's supposed to be in my that's the that's the
• 34:08
  reason why I love, I do love Superman.
• 34:10
  I think that he's supposed to be the best of us and we should
• 34:13
  want to as the human race. But again, we're 5050 what
• 34:18
  happened in the world to where 50% of the people hate the other
• 34:23
  50% of the people. Why are why are we here and why
• 34:27
  are we not striving? It's the same thing that goes
• 34:29
  back to it's not to geek out, but it's even to go back to Star
• 34:32
  Trek that those, those philosophies like, oh, Star Trek
• 34:37
  has gone woke. No, 1966, the original Star
• 34:42
  Trek, you would not, you would not have, you know, you would
• 34:46
  not have Uhura on the bridge. You would not have Sulu on the
• 34:49
  bridge. You would not have a Russian on
• 34:51
  the bridge and in but they're showing in the future.
• 34:54
  All these contingencies are working together for a common
• 34:58
  for a common goal. And I love that.
• 35:01
  Yeah, there's some some great episodes of Star Trek where they
• 35:03
  talk about, well, you know, money isn't the pursuit.
• 35:05
  Money is not our pursuit. Betterment of ourselves is the
• 35:08
  pursuit. Because in the future,
• 35:10
  apparently, you know, they have the replicators and they can
• 35:12
  make stuff so they can make gold.
• 35:14
  So everybody's got gold. So the cool thing about that is
• 35:17
  the the message is to better yourself.
• 35:20
  And I think those messages are great.
• 35:21
  So. But that's what they call woke
• 35:23
  these days, right? Which might right which?
• 35:27
  Things woke. I have no interest in US going
• 35:30
  to Mars and all this money that we're spending on, you know,
• 35:34
  SpaceX or whatever it is. All these rockets that keep
• 35:36
  blowing up. I'm like, we, we need that money
• 35:39
  to help current people on this planet.
• 35:43
  Like, why are we spending billions of dollars to try to go
• 35:47
  to a different planet? It makes no sense to me at all.
• 35:50
  I mean, it's a lot of money that we're spending.
• 35:54
  I think at the and it's, it's sad at the, the at the end of,
• 35:58
  you know, at the end of the day, for me, it isn't, it isn't about
• 36:02
  going to Mars for the betterment of mankind, which I would love
• 36:05
  for that to be the true mission. It's how can we get gold, how
• 36:09
  can we get zinc? How can we get, how can we rape?
• 36:13
  How can we rape a planet of its natural resources?
• 36:16
  And, and how can I be the first to get there to make sure that
• 36:18
  I'm the richest? You know, I, I, I always, I
• 36:22
  always ask myself about the ultra wealthy.
• 36:24
  It's like, you have so much. So what is, why is there such a
• 36:29
  pursuit to get more, if that makes sense?
• 36:32
  Our company, it's interesting enough and I'll, I'll be blunt
• 36:35
  about it. Our company just announced a
• 36:36
  bunch more layoffs, you know, yeah, you know, just a much more
• 36:41
  layoffs. And I'm like, and the problem is
• 36:43
  it isn't the executives that are getting laid off.
• 36:46
  It's not even the middle management to get laid off.
• 36:48
  It's the people at the at the street level, the local level
• 36:52
  are the people that are getting laid off.
• 36:54
  Why is it that they get, you know, a gold parachute or, you
• 36:59
  know, Teflon coating? And I, I, it fascinates me on
• 37:02
  like how much wealth does your next door neighbor need to be
• 37:07
  happy and to be content? Now, you and I both grew up
• 37:09
  poor. So maybe our, what we need is
• 37:13
  probably different, is different than that.
• 37:17
  For me, I just wanted, you know, I just wanted to be able to put
• 37:20
  a roof over my head. I wanted to be able to have a
• 37:22
  couple comic books in the, in the, you know, and I want to be
• 37:24
  able to pay my bills. And so luckily, thank goodness,
• 37:27
  I, I've had a career where I can actually do that, but I haven't
• 37:30
  gotten rich. I'm not rich by any means.
• 37:32
  And I'm one paycheck away from the street.
• 37:35
  But, but I am so much further along than I was when I started.
• 37:40
  But, but, but my, but it's never been about the procurement of,
• 37:44
  oh, I need a boat in the, the driveway.
• 37:46
  I need a camper. I need, I need to, you know, and
• 37:49
  we've talked about that. We've got friends that that's
• 37:51
  all they that that's what they live by, you know, so I think
• 37:54
  it's just a state of mind. And I think, and I think that a
• 37:57
  lot of people today, sadly, Michelle, if you don't agree,
• 38:01
  agree with them, you're woke, right?
• 38:04
  And then and, and interesting enough, there's a lot of,
• 38:06
  there's a lot of stuff on the Republican platform that I do
• 38:09
  agree with, you know, so one of the things which I find quite
• 38:13
  interesting, I am actually on Elon Musk's side when it comes
• 38:16
  to the fact that he says, hey, you promised to cut the debt.
• 38:19
  You promised to cut the debt. And now you turn around and
• 38:22
  raise the debt ceiling by $3 trillion to satisfy to satisfy
• 38:27
  the rich. Right, because that's.
• 38:28
  Where that money goes? My granddaughter and her kids
• 38:31
  are going to be paying for that. Yeah, absolutely so.
• 38:35
  Trillion there. Is some common ground with Elon
• 38:37
  Musk, even though I just think he's a despicable human being,
• 38:40
  you know, there are some common ground to where I'm like, OK,
• 38:43
  you know, and, and, and again, I don't have a problem paying
• 38:46
  taxes. I want to make sure the taxes
• 38:48
  are going to good worthy causes, not just, you know, not the
• 38:51
  military machine. I mean, how much, I mean, again,
• 38:53
  how many times do we need to blow the world up?
• 38:56
  I mean, how many times, how many nukes do we need?
• 38:58
  We have enough to blow the planet over a billion times.
• 39:02
  Right. So, so, so and then to continue
• 39:04
  to generate more and more and more and more.
• 39:07
  I don't get it. And especially even when we go
• 39:09
  to get in wars with Iran or all the other stuff that we do, it
• 39:13
  really is to satisfy those contractors and all the the
• 39:18
  warmongers and they and again they get, they get richer and
• 39:20
  richer and. Same with this Alcatraz
• 39:25
  Alligator Alcatraz or whatever that just popped up in Florida.
• 39:29
  My thought is if you can spring up this, you know, I call it a
• 39:34
  concentration camp, you know, within a week that will house
• 39:38
  these people, why can't we build something similar for all the
• 39:42
  homeless people all across our country?
• 39:44
  I mean, if it's that easy to just pop something up because.
• 39:47
  There's no money. Aren't we doing that?
• 39:49
  Because there's no money in it. See the the interesting thing is
• 39:52
  deporting people you know gets votes.
• 39:57
  Right. And it's big bugs so.
• 39:58
  If I could, yeah. So.
• 39:59
  So if ICE can come in and raid some place and deport, you know.
• 40:03
  And interesting, I always joke about this.
• 40:05
  How come ice if if if they're all lazy and not working, how
• 40:08
  come ICE goes to their work? Right.
• 40:11
  Or doesn't go after the employers.
• 40:14
  Like you cannot employ someone nowadays without knowing that
• 40:20
  they are undocumented. I'm sorry.
• 40:22
  Like there is enough checks and balances in our system that you
• 40:25
  know now compared to, you know, 20 years ago.
• 40:27
  And you see that a lot, I guess even in the Yakima Valley with
• 40:30
  the, a lot of the fruit companies, they know what
• 40:32
  they're doing. But guess what?
• 40:34
  Guess what's at the top of the fruit company?
• 40:35
  Very wealthy people. And it's the same thing.
• 40:38
  Interesting enough down here in tri-cities, Easter Day farms,
• 40:42
  the guy ended up sadly committing suicide.
• 40:44
  But they had over like 3000 head of cattle that didn't exist.
• 40:50
  This, this farm did, it didn't exist.
• 40:52
  And so they took, they, they got, you know, $20 million from
• 40:56
  the state and all these things to take care of this, these
• 40:59
  cattle that just didn't exist. They.
• 41:02
  They weren't real. And so they got all these, they
• 41:05
  got all these grants, they got all this money.
• 41:07
  I mean, even going back to the PPS loans, you know, the, it,
• 41:11
  it's ridiculous on how many business owners took advantage
• 41:16
  and didn't give that that money. That money specifically was
• 41:19
  supposed to go to employees and to keep them working.
• 41:23
  And they went and bought houses and boats and cars and yeah, we,
• 41:27
  we're cracking down on a few of them, but, but we're not, we're
• 41:30
  not getting them all. And then even from the
• 41:33
  government standpoint, you know, when you look at your
• 41:35
  representative, oh, there's their, their loan gets excused.
• 41:38
  So we talk about student loans or whatever.
• 41:40
  Oh, hell no. Pick yourself up by the
• 41:42
  bootstrap. But, but meanwhile, if I work in
• 41:45
  Congress, guess what? Oh my $200,000 loan forgiven.
• 41:49
  So right, which the PPE loan or PPP loan, whatever they were
• 41:52
  called, that's socialism too. At all, of course.
• 41:55
  It's a pan out. Absolutely.
• 41:57
  Well, if you give handouts to the rich, that's okay.
• 42:02
  It is, it is. It's perfectly fine because
• 42:04
  people are so convinced. But they're job creators.
• 42:07
  They're such job. Yeah, you know, sorry.
• 42:12
  They're job creators, so it's like I have to.
• 42:16
  They're doing stock buybacks and like you just said, your
• 42:19
  company's like, you know, laying off more people.
• 42:22
  They're giving it to their board members, shareholders.
• 42:26
  That's where all the money goes. And it's all public records.
• 42:29
  So it's so funny. It's all public records.
• 42:31
  So people are like, well, how do you know what your CEO makes?
• 42:34
  We're a publicly traded company. So when he does a big stock
• 42:37
  buyback for $5,000,000 and pays himself, I see it.
• 42:40
  It's not me. I'm not snooping into the books.
• 42:44
  It's it's public record. Your top, your top five CE OS,
• 42:48
  their bonuses, their salaries is all.
• 42:51
  And and again, all we ever hear is we got to get the stock price
• 42:55
  up, get the stock price up it the stock price.
• 42:57
  Yes, thanks. Thanks for keeping me employed.
• 43:00
  Great. But the average person does not
• 43:04
  benefit from the stock price going up.
• 43:06
  No. And then people are always like,
• 43:08
  it's so funny. People are like, well, buy
• 43:09
  stock, buy stock. Well, you have to understand,
• 43:12
  Michelle, you and I came from poverty.
• 43:13
  So I'm not, I'm not. I'm not.
• 43:15
  So you're so it's not even starting from zero for us.
• 43:18
  We're coming from behind. Yeah, right.
• 43:20
  We're so negative. Yeah, exactly.
• 43:23
  And. You are worth.
• 43:25
  Right. And I'm not, I'm not.
• 43:27
  And I'm not saying you know that that hard work, hard work,
• 43:30
  absolutely hard work absolutely counts for something.
• 43:33
  But I also know that when you're starting at OK, great example.
• 43:37
  You and Jay thankfully have done very well through the years,
• 43:40
  right? Yes, you just have that.
• 43:42
  That's just as honest as you can be.
• 43:44
  All four of your kids had the opportunity to do what?
• 43:47
  Go to college. Go to college.
• 43:48
  Go to college. That was that was never on.
• 43:51
  I mean, it's like at $600 a month in radio, that was never
• 43:55
  on the table. I mean, I guess I could have
• 43:57
  gone no, but I guess I could have gone crazy in debt to do it
• 44:01
  And and luckily the and luckily the radio thing worked out.
• 44:05
  But that but that option for Logan is like I offered to help
• 44:09
  like, hey, Logan, if you want to go to college, I'll help, but I
• 44:12
  couldn't pay. I couldn't pay today's well,
• 44:16
  even even back then, I couldn't pay the entire tuition.
• 44:19
  I mean, it was more like, hey, you're going to have to live at
• 44:21
  home. You have to.
• 44:23
  Live at home and get free food or get free food.
• 44:25
  Which is pretty reasonable. Which is nothing wrong with
• 44:28
  that. There's nothing wrong with going
• 44:29
  to a Community College. I, you know, I'm a huge, I'm a
• 44:32
  huge supporter of trade schools. If you want to be an engineer,
• 44:34
  if you want to be a Carpenter, if you want to be a radio agent,
• 44:38
  go to go to trade school. Yeah, doesn't all have to be
• 44:41
  college. But I also think I'm in that
• 44:43
  boat to where I think the betterment of mankind is
• 44:48
  educated people. So that's why I'm a huge fan of
• 44:51
  I think secondary education should be free now and then they
• 44:55
  misunderstand that. No, you want them to go to
• 44:58
  Harvard. No, if, if it's if it's if it's
• 45:02
  Basin City Community College, that should be free.
• 45:05
  A basic college education should be free.
• 45:08
  Now, if you want to go to a private college, if you want to
• 45:11
  go, you know, to the Ivy League's and all that, well,
• 45:14
  that's on your own dime. But your family usually, but
• 45:17
  your family has that money, I mean.
• 45:19
  Yeah, acceptance rate if you're not legacy for Harvard, Yale is
• 45:25
  3%, right? Right, exactly.
• 45:27
  All the kids going are because their parents went or they
• 45:30
  donate X amount of money. You know you have to be.
• 45:34
  Exceptional for that and that. OK, so be it.
• 45:36
  So be it. But but OK, so a great example.
• 45:40
  I know that and I love our I love our vice president of our
• 45:44
  company. He's great, right.
• 45:45
  But his son went to Yale, his son went to Yale.
• 45:48
  They he doesn't know any different.
• 45:50
  His son doesn't know any different.
• 45:52
  Great. Yale was always in the plan for
• 45:54
  them. But but when you come from
• 45:56
  poverty like we did, Yale is not in the plan.
• 45:59
  No, but I but again, as and I had a boss.
• 46:04
  It was so funny. I had a boss that used to say,
• 46:06
  oh, you just want to spread the money around.
• 46:08
  No I don't, no I don't. I want you to pay me #1 what I'm
• 46:12
  worth. You know I shouldn't have to
• 46:14
  fight for a raise every year. It should be Rick's done really
• 46:18
  good work, let's give him a raise and a cost of living raise
• 46:21
  as well. I don't care how much ACEO
• 46:24
  makes. I don't care how much AVP makes.
• 46:26
  I don't care. But your people that work for
• 46:29
  you and work hard it, it should not be a begging situation.
• 46:32
  It should not be going, you know, it should be you work
• 46:35
  hard, here's a raise and you should be able to feed your
• 46:38
  family, put a roof over your head, send your kids to, to to
• 46:42
  school, or at least that schooling should be for that,
• 46:44
  for that level, because it's a better society.
• 46:49
  It's a better society. Yeah, I mean, Shaylee had
• 46:52
  applied to University of Irvine, CA, which was her number one
• 46:57
  school. She really wanted to go to this
• 46:58
  school, but out of state tuition for one year would have been
• 47:02
  over $60,000. That's for one year.
• 47:07
  And luckily she was a running start kid, which meant, you
• 47:10
  know, she graduated with her A A when she graduated as a senior.
• 47:14
  I can imagine right her going for four years at 60 grand a
• 47:19
  year like. Better, Yeah.
• 47:20
  What's the and and what's the job going to be?
• 47:23
  I mean again, what? What's shedding?
• 47:25
  She's going to school for genetics, so.
• 47:26
  I mean, because she's super smart.
• 47:28
  I mean, I get it. You're, you're very blessed to
• 47:30
  have smart kids. I I have not been that blessed,
• 47:32
  but. Oh, stop.
• 47:35
  My my kid is on the creative side.
• 47:37
  Logan's on the no my kids on the creative side.
• 47:39
  Yet you know he's he's a musician, a starving.
• 47:42
  Musician, Hopefully. Hopefully that will pay off big
• 47:44
  Someday. He's gonna have that hit number
• 47:46
  one song. It's gonna happen.
• 47:48
  It's gonna happen. Maybe.
• 47:49
  Someday so and but it but, but again, I don't begrudge your
• 47:55
  kids. I don't look at you and go, man,
• 47:58
  I were. I wish I you know, I'd been
• 48:00
  robbed. I and I and that is the no, that
• 48:03
  is the mentality of of the anti woke people in terms of you're
• 48:09
  getting something that I didn't get.
• 48:12
  I'm like, no, you're not. You are better made that you're
• 48:15
  making life better for people around you.
• 48:18
  Right When people bought their it's ridiculous.
• 48:20
  When you've got a 6570 year old person who bought their house at
• 48:23
  $15,000 bitching bitching about a kid who now has to pay $2000
• 48:31
  for rent, that's ridiculous. Right.
• 48:33
  Or all these millennials or Eden's ears even that are, you
• 48:38
  know, in their 20s now that are trying to buy a house and you
• 48:41
  cannot find anything. Depending on where you live,
• 48:45
  even here in Yakima, you can't find anything decent, you know.
• 48:49
  Under 40,000 like I mean. Yeah, 300,000 I mean.
• 48:53
  Like I'm sure it's 40 trash for us in the tri-cities.
• 48:56
  It's 400,000 just period. Because Megan and I've wanted to
• 48:59
  downsize. We've looked at places and it's
• 49:01
  like we can't, we can't afford to move from the house we have
• 49:04
  because we can't afford to buy a new house because I'm not paying
• 49:07
  $3000 a month for a mortgage that's not doing it.
• 49:10
  And you have. All these old people you know,
• 49:12
  well, you just stop buying lattes and save up some money
• 49:15
  and. Avocado there.
• 49:16
  Isn't enough of saving that savings that's going to make
• 49:20
  that possible for them like it? It just isn't.
• 49:23
  But we're going to support again, tax breaks for
• 49:27
  billionaires, plain and simple. You know, billionaire man,
• 49:31
  billionaires, man, they got it tough.
• 49:32
  They need more, they need more, they need more.
• 49:34
  And the ridiculousness of. It's so funny, the
• 49:37
  ridiculousness of that. They're just going to turn
• 49:40
  around and put it back into their business.
• 49:43
  It's such a lie. It's such a lie that is that I
• 49:46
  don't care what, what they, what they say.
• 49:48
  When I get, I'll be truthful when I get extra money, guess
• 49:50
  what I do, I stuff it into savings and that's, and guess
• 49:54
  what? That's what rich people do too.
• 49:58
  And, and so I, I remember that. Remember, were you part of it?
• 50:03
  So in 2008, we had that huge recession and so everybody had
• 50:07
  to take a pay cut. And so I was working at new NW
• 50:09
  Broadcasters and across the board we all had to take a 10%
• 50:13
  pay cut. And I remember the CEO coming to
• 50:16
  town and going well. Well, I took the pay cut too.
• 50:20
  Well, her salary was $300,000. In 2008, that's.
• 50:25
  In 2008, her pay cut, her pay cut of 10% is nothing compared
• 50:30
  to somebody that was making $30,000.
• 50:33
  Right. And she did, but she was
• 50:35
  oblivious to it. She was, she didn't understand.
• 50:37
  She goes, you know, she she didn't understand why as
• 50:40
  workers, we weren't grateful. I'm like, are you insane?
• 50:43
  Are you insane, lady? I don't understand this, this
• 50:46
  way of thinking. I again, you know, it's it, it's
• 50:49
  yeah. It's just the, it's the insanity
• 50:51
  of it's, it's being so far removed.
• 50:53
  I've always even said this, I've even said this about education.
• 50:57
  It's like the people in education who make the most
• 50:59
  money is not your teachers, It's the administrators.
• 51:03
  Great. And when they hire people, when
• 51:04
  they hire people, my goodness, they hire more administration
• 51:08
  people than they do teachers. More push.
• 51:11
  They need more. Teachers.
• 51:13
  Right, right, right. Stop the insanity.
• 51:17
  You don't need more assistance, Yeah.
• 51:20
  Teachers are Saints and they should be making well into
• 51:24
  150,000, depending on where you live.
• 51:26
  Obviously in San Francisco, that's not really going to pay
• 51:28
  the bills and hopefully they're making more, but I mean.
• 51:32
  It's all relative. Yes, and deserve to be making
• 51:36
  more than just, you know, barely hanging on.
• 51:41
  They should not have to buy their own school supplies,
• 51:43
  that's ridiculous. Any of any of that's ridiculous.
• 51:45
  And then this whole thing like, well, I wish I I wish I had
• 51:48
  three months off every year. Oh my gosh.
• 51:51
  Number one, they only get, they only get paid for what they
• 51:53
  work. Well their pay is pro rated out
• 51:56
  throughout the year so that they still get paid as the.
• 52:00
  The list goes on and on. It was so funny I saw this even
• 52:02
  about So you know, you have your high paid actors.
• 52:05
  You're right. You've got your movie stars, You
• 52:06
  got your Tom Cruises, you got your Robert Downey Junior's.
• 52:09
  The Z Lister's movie. But the average working, the
• 52:13
  average working actor doesn't. And I saw somebody put up online
• 52:17
  their royalty check from ATV show they did in the 80s, and it
• 52:20
  was a couple bucks, you know, whatever it was.
• 52:23
  And somebody had the audacity to get on there and go wish I got a
• 52:26
  couple bucks from a job I did 40 years ago.
• 52:29
  Oh, my gosh. That's how they live.
• 52:31
  Like, because you already know as being an actor, if you're
• 52:35
  not, if you're not a millionaire billionaire actor, guess what?
• 52:39
  You're a working actor. And it's like you're, you're
• 52:43
  living from paycheck to paycheck as well.
• 52:45
  So you need those royalties. So yeah, I'm the guy.
• 52:48
  Yeah, Radio, we, you already know radio has, we have no
• 52:51
  pensions. We have none of that stuff.
• 52:53
  We have no unions, only in the major, only in the major markets
• 52:56
  You have in union at the at this level, it's like it's sink or
• 53:00
  swim. And they, yeah, they just, they
• 53:03
  don't care about that. So Superman is it woke?
• 53:06
  I guess Superman's. I guess Superman's always been
• 53:08
  Wolf. That was the long way to reach
• 53:10
  that conclusion. Well, I think there was a lot
• 53:12
  of, I think there was a lot of Nuggets in there, Michelle,
• 53:14
  right. I mean, I want to go see that
• 53:17
  new Jurassic. What movie?
• 53:19
  I don't even know what it's called.
• 53:20
  Anymore like the world. Yeah, whatever it is.
• 53:24
  But I just read an article today that there are scientists that
• 53:26
  are going to clone this. I don't know the name of the
• 53:29
  bird, but it looks like a giant emu or ostrich or.
• 53:32
  And I'm thinking, why are we doing this?
• 53:34
  Like, we have movies that show we should not be doing this.
• 53:38
  I don't care if they're fiction. Like, this could really be
• 53:41
  happening. I don't want this bird, like
• 53:43
  this bird. This bird's going to make us
• 53:45
  bird food. I don't, I don't know.
• 53:47
  Well, maybe they clone part of me.
• 53:50
  Part of me roots for the dinosaurs sometimes because the
• 53:53
  because the human race can be pretty distant, no?
• 53:56
  Off. The planet I am, I am absolutely
• 53:58
  an optimist, but I I really believe the human race has done
• 54:01
  some of the cruelest, meanest things.
• 54:03
  Oh yeah. In the history, in the history
• 54:05
  of mankind. And, and again, we, we just
• 54:08
  talked about Superman's why? That's why I love Superman so
• 54:10
  much is we can be better. We should want to be better.
• 54:13
  Why don't we want to be better? Why?
• 54:16
  You know why? Why do we see the worst of us?
• 54:18
  We also see the best of us. Don't get me wrong, we see the
• 54:21
  best of us but, but wouldn't it be nice to see more of the best
• 54:25
  of us? Oh yeah, Which it blows my mind
• 54:27
  why we were talking about the billionaires and millions
• 54:30
  millionaires. And you know, back in the day
• 54:33
  they would reinvest that money in museums or donating it or
• 54:38
  building hospital wings or blah, blah, blah.
• 54:41
  It was reinvested back into the community in some way to help at
• 54:46
  the millionaires. And billionaires nowadays don't
• 54:49
  do that. Like what happened that there's
• 54:51
  this disconnect with them now compared to back then.
• 54:56
  Why doesn't? Elon Musk want his right, Yeah.
• 54:59
  Why doesn't he want his legacy to be?
• 55:01
  I built all these hospitals all across the country and they'll
• 55:04
  they will say Elon Musk on them for hundreds.
• 55:07
  Of years. Why wouldn't I?
• 55:08
  Why wouldn't I? Legacy to be I cured cancer.
• 55:11
  Oh yes, definitely. Like that would be huge.
• 55:13
  If you had unlimited, if you had unlimited wealth, wouldn't you
• 55:15
  not be? I mean, that's one thing.
• 55:17
  That's why I'm a huge fan of Michael J Fox.
• 55:19
  Growing up. I loved him.
• 55:20
  I mean, as even as an actor, if you're going to put my favorite
• 55:24
  actor of all time, it's going to be Michael J Fox.
• 55:26
  And then and then what he's done now that he had gotten
• 55:29
  Parkinson's, his story is is unbelievable.
• 55:33
  And that and for me, I look at him going, that's the betterment
• 55:36
  of mankind. Same with Christopher Reeve, the
• 55:39
  original Superman got crippled. You remember he got it.
• 55:42
  And it takes, it's sad, but it takes a humbling moment in your
• 55:47
  life to realize that you can be part of something way bigger
• 55:51
  than what you are and that. And at the end of the day, it's
• 55:55
  not all about you. And they both of them, Michael J
• 55:57
  Fox, Christopher Reeve, people that I love, Robin Williams.
• 56:01
  I mean, all my favorites. The growing up, they'll tell you
• 56:05
  that that you have that epiphany, that moment in your
• 56:07
  life where you're like, I need to be better and I need to be
• 56:10
  part of something bigger and not just the pursuit of me.
• 56:14
  When are all these millionaires and billionaires going to have
• 56:17
  this epiphany? Well, you got, you know the good
• 56:21
  news, You've got Bill Gates, who's going to give away a lot
• 56:22
  of his fortune. You got William Buff, Warren
• 56:27
  Buffett, who's going to give away a lot of his fortune.
• 56:28
  Now, here's the scary part of it is, again, even with your
• 56:31
  nonprofits, you can break down to where all the money goes.
• 56:35
  And you'd be shocked that you'd be shocked on how many CE OS
• 56:40
  take a huge, massive portion of, of a particular charity.
• 56:44
  So those are the charities that you don't, you know, so those
• 56:47
  are the charities you want, you want to do your research.
• 56:49
  If you're going to be living, leaving a bunch of money behind,
• 56:52
  I would do research and figure out what's going to be the best
• 56:55
  charity that that speaks to you. And also make sure that that CEO
• 56:59
  wasn't raking in huge, you know, because it's true.
• 57:02
  And nonprofits fight like radio stations for every dollar.
• 57:07
  I I did not realize that nonprofits are competitive.
• 57:11
  Yes. Tell me about it because I have
• 57:12
  been trying to get mine off the ground for like 5 years now and
• 57:15
  it's yeah, it's tough. It's tough out there.
• 57:18
  Yeah, well, you got to get that 5O13C and all that and just to
• 57:22
  just the hoops and then and then getting supporters, investors
• 57:25
  and all of that. Yeah, it's kind of crazy that
• 57:29
  way. So are you, I guess the
• 57:31
  question, are you going to go see Superman?
• 57:36
  I think. I.
• 57:51
  Think the movie. Experience has changed so much
• 57:57
  to where a lot of people just wait for streaming.
• 57:59
  So I think that to go to the movie, it really has to be
• 58:01
  something special. Not just to back in the day
• 58:04
  you'd go gosh, at least once a month or maybe every couple
• 58:07
  months. And now it's like, oh, I'll just
• 58:09
  wait for streaming. Everything you see is like, I'll
• 58:11
  wait for streaming, right? So it's fine.
• 58:13
  It's so expensive now and so yes, it's not really we can't
• 58:17
  really afford to go multiple times a month.
• 58:19
  And like you said, it's. Easier to watch back.
• 58:22
  Yeah. And it was right back to him.
• 58:23
  Even when you think about. I've done a lot of interviews
• 58:25
  with movie theaters and we've done tours and stuff, and you're
• 58:28
  shocked to discover that even the movie theater does not make
• 58:31
  a They don't make money on the movie.
• 58:32
  They make it concessions, hence the reason your pop and your
• 58:36
  your milk duds and all that are outrageous because that's where
• 58:39
  they make their money. They don't make it, you know.
• 58:41
  But how long? I guess the question is how long
• 58:43
  before movie theaters are automated too?
• 58:47
  I think, I think that's, I think that'll be around the corner
• 58:51
  someday to where they'll be one or two people at the theater and
• 58:54
  because you don't see the bodies like you used to, like the
• 58:56
  workers. Right.
• 58:58
  Or I mean, it could be robots. And that's the truth.
• 59:04
  And that's the truth. I think it's gotten to the point
• 59:06
  now when you when you pick a seat, you just pick your seat
• 59:08
  online, which, yeah, so. I do have to say.
• 59:12
  Yeah, no, that's a that is a good thing.
• 59:14
  So now you know where you're going to be sitting and you
• 59:16
  don't have to worry about that. So I wouldn't be shocked.
• 59:18
  Someday down the road, you get a ticket and it buzzes you in,
• 59:22
  buzzes you in the door. You go find your whatever it is
• 59:25
  and who knows what the what the future holds there but.
• 59:28
  Swipe your little like bracelet we're all going to have to wear,
• 59:31
  right? Isn't that what RFK wants us all
• 59:33
  to have? A bracelet.
• 59:33
  By Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that that nut job.
• 59:38
  Yeah, that. Goodness, yeah, let's.
• 59:41
  And I like, and I like, I like the Kennedys.
• 59:44
  I don't know. I I like the Kennedys.
• 59:46
  I don't like that. Too me either.
• 59:51
  Well, Shaylee is a huge Kennedy nerd.
• 59:53
  Like she probably knows everything about the family.
• 59:56
  I Shaylee Shaylee loves the Kennedy family.
• 1:00:00
  She probably knows anything and everything about them.
• 1:00:03
  But yeah, she despises. Well, for my birthday, John F
• 1:00:07
  Kennedy's, that's my birthday. So Bob Hope and John F Kennedy.
• 1:00:11
  So for me, whenever I was a kid, I would always do book reports
• 1:00:14
  on John F Kennedy because we share the same birth date.
• 1:00:17
  So that's my, that's my affinity towards my affinity towards John
• 1:00:22
  F Kennedy. And I love, I love Kennedy.
• 1:00:24
  And then I'm, and then a lot of people don't realize I'm a World
• 1:00:26
  War 2 buff. I love FDR and I especially love
• 1:00:30
  Winston Churchill. So I'm, I'm a big fan of Winston
• 1:00:33
  Churchill. So a lot of people don't realize
• 1:00:35
  that I was a huge history buff as a kid.
• 1:00:37
  And so with a special focus on World War 2.
• 1:00:42
  Fascinating. Math and science were not my
• 1:00:44
  strong suit. It was English.
• 1:00:45
  Not at all. Not at all.
• 1:00:47
  I talked for a living. 4 + 4. What's 4 + 4?
• 1:00:51
  Your kids could do it in their heads.
• 1:00:52
  I'm like, hang on. I go 1234.
• 1:00:56
  I'll even do it at the bank. I don't care.
• 1:00:58
  I'm embarrassing. I'm embarrassing.
• 1:01:00
  Like my fingers? Too.
• 1:01:02
  Yes, I could do. But if I'm cooking and like I
• 1:01:06
  need fractions, don't. I hate fractions.
• 1:01:09
  I hate. I don't do fractions.
• 1:01:10
  Yeah, I need no idea. If I'm cooking and I need, you
• 1:01:14
  know what's 11 fourth, the one, whatever it is and I'll just
• 1:01:19
  like yell it to the kids and they'll just like give me the
• 1:01:22
  answer like that right off the top of their head and I'm going
• 1:01:24
  no. In.
• 1:01:25
  The world. I don't know where you got this
• 1:01:28
  brain from because it's not me. No, I, I was so bad at math.
• 1:01:33
  It was so funny. I look back at my old report
• 1:01:34
  cards. I didn't realize I did have, I
• 1:01:36
  did have a year of algebra, which I got AD in, so I barely
• 1:01:39
  passed. So I had straight A's, straight
• 1:01:42
  A's and D and, and so it's so funny.
• 1:01:47
  I think back in the day, oh, back in the day in high school,
• 1:01:51
  so I didn't realize, I think you had to have three years of math.
• 1:01:54
  So I had so I had it was funny. So I had general math, which I
• 1:01:57
  got AC in. Then I had pre algebra, which I
• 1:02:00
  got AD plus in and then I had algebra, which I got AD and so
• 1:02:04
  that ruined my I had a pretty good grade point average.
• 1:02:06
  Everything else was A's like history and English and all
• 1:02:10
  that. I was advanced.
• 1:02:11
  I was AP. The hilarity is AP history, AP
• 1:02:15
  English, general math, dumb dummy math.
• 1:02:18
  There I was dummy math and today and today and then I'm like,
• 1:02:23
  well, but now we got this greatest creation ever.
• 1:02:26
  I just go, what is 3/4 of dot dot dot?
• 1:02:29
  Remember when they told you when you were a kid?
• 1:02:31
  Oh, you'll you, you won't have a calculator wherever you go, I
• 1:02:34
  mean. Oh OK I feel so bad because
• 1:02:37
  Benjamin and Shaley both really. We think they're dyslexic
• 1:02:41
  because the J was but we've never really had them tested.
• 1:02:44
  But spelling for those two, oh, my gosh, we would sit at the
• 1:02:49
  table and have them write the words over and over.
• 1:02:52
  Or we would write in the shaving cream.
• 1:02:56
  Yeah, I tried everything to help them so that these words would
• 1:03:00
  stick in their brain for their spelling test.
• 1:03:02
  And I remember Benjamin, you know, he's like, why do I have
• 1:03:06
  to memorize these words? And I would tell him, well, you
• 1:03:09
  need to know how to spell. And so I feel bad now because
• 1:03:14
  again, you could spell check and spell it all these words on
• 1:03:18
  your. Family, you name it.
• 1:03:19
  It's all yes, yeah, we're going to be illiterate in the future.
• 1:03:22
  Basically, we're just going to, we're going to hit a button and
• 1:03:24
  it's just going to do everything for us.
• 1:03:26
  I mean, you know which sometimes that.
• 1:03:28
  That it's going to be, it's actually wait till they get,
• 1:03:30
  wait till they figure out how to hook it into your brain.
• 1:03:32
  Oh gosh. So where you just think it and
• 1:03:36
  it just types for you like oh, take and you just go take a
• 1:03:39
  letter and it just, you know, think about that crazy future.
• 1:03:45
  Let's move on because I did want to touch on the TSA.
• 1:03:48
  No longer do we have to remove our shoes.
• 1:03:51
  So I was like, thank you. It's been what, over 20 years,
• 1:03:57
  20 years since we've had to do this?
• 1:03:59
  And you cannot tell me the technology has not been there to
• 1:04:03
  be able to tell, you know, oh, somebody got a bomb in their
• 1:04:06
  shoe that we could have stopped doing this like 15 years ago.
• 1:04:10
  Like, why 20 years? But I'm so thankful it's finally
• 1:04:14
  happening. I just, I just did an article on
• 1:04:17
  the radio station about it and here's what I talked about more
• 1:04:19
  than anything else. Number one, I talked about my
• 1:04:20
  foster mom who told me always to wear clean underwear and, and
• 1:04:23
  matching socks because when you go out to these things, that was
• 1:04:26
  one of the things I talked about.
• 1:04:27
  Then I talked about the fact that for me, boarding a flight
• 1:04:32
  going through TSA can be one of the most stressful things there
• 1:04:35
  is on the planet. Because number one, it's like,
• 1:04:37
  so you have to take off your belt, you have to take, you have
• 1:04:39
  to put all your change, you have to get out your wallet.
• 1:04:41
  You have to do all these things and it's rapidly moving.
• 1:04:46
  So you've got cranky. So you've got cranky a hole
• 1:04:49
  peoples behind you, you know, And so you're so your shit has
• 1:04:53
  taken off without you as you're trying to get a shoe off.
• 1:04:56
  Right. You know, and so it's like,
• 1:04:59
  yeah, so I'm with you on this. I'm, I'm excited.
• 1:05:01
  The TSA number one, we don't have to smell smelly feet
• 1:05:04
  anymore. And then number two, you don't.
• 1:05:07
  It's like, it's just such an it's like, I guess when you
• 1:05:11
  board a plane, it's been a long time since I've been on the
• 1:05:13
  plane, but it's like, God, I just want let me get, let me get
• 1:05:16
  my shit out first, OK, Before my before it's gone.
• 1:05:20
  Right. And and then the guy behind me
• 1:05:23
  is going, hey, can you hurry, you know?
• 1:05:26
  Which, you know, we travel a couple times a year and I always
• 1:05:29
  feel bad for you can tell the people who don't travel and so
• 1:05:32
  they don't know a lot of the rules.
• 1:05:35
  You have to take your laptop out, your certain things that
• 1:05:38
  have to be taken out of your bag.
• 1:05:41
  And TSA is not nice about it to these people.
• 1:05:44
  They don't feel so bad. They they act like no and and
• 1:05:46
  again, they act like and and see it.
• 1:05:48
  It comes back to the betterment of mankind, because to me it's
• 1:05:52
  like, why can't you just be kind, be nice to people and,
• 1:05:56
  and, and, and the human experience there?
• 1:05:58
  Because like you said, TSA, they, they act like you're a
• 1:06:01
  moron. And it's like, well, so when you
• 1:06:04
  make a great point, I like what you said.
• 1:06:05
  A lot of the majority of people don't fly a lot.
• 1:06:08
  Right, they don't know what the rules are and they get there.
• 1:06:11
  And some guys like and then and they and then they act like
• 1:06:14
  you're putting them out. Or you should know this.
• 1:06:18
  I mean, there are all the signs. I talked.
• 1:06:21
  It was so funny. I used to say this about IT
• 1:06:23
  people back in the day, now that, you know, they're long
• 1:06:25
  gone from radio. But back in the day, you had a
• 1:06:28
  lot of IT people that would be like, yeah, yeah, Tim, this this
• 1:06:32
  laptop's not working. Move not.
• 1:06:36
  You, that's what they, you know what I'm saying, the engineer.
• 1:06:39
  Move right, right. You know, it's like, why can't
• 1:06:43
  you just, why can't you just be nice about it?
• 1:06:44
  Like, you know, not all of us are rocket scientists.
• 1:06:46
  Not all of us are, you know, right, computer illiterate and
• 1:06:50
  all the, you know, or you know, all these things.
• 1:06:53
  But right, which my son Benjamin, yeah, he works in IT
• 1:06:56
  and he got so tired of me Yeah, Benjamin, Benjamin when I do
• 1:07:01
  that he has my laptop set up to where he can remote in now
• 1:07:04
  because. He just got so dare to be.
• 1:07:06
  Bothering. He's like, Oh my God, mom, like
• 1:07:08
  I showed you this over and over. No.
• 1:07:10
  Well, teach him. Teach him that.
• 1:07:12
  Teach him the. He's never done that.
• 1:07:15
  He's such a great. When I when I talk to Benjamin,
• 1:07:18
  I want to know you want to irritate your mom.
• 1:07:22
  You want to irritate your mom. Don't move.
• 1:07:25
  And roll your eyes. That would be more what his
• 1:07:27
  sister would do. That's right.
• 1:07:29
  But yeah, he's really my friends.
• 1:07:31
  Yeah, Roller eyes. He's helped my friends with
• 1:07:33
  their cell phones, their computers, when he'll do it for
• 1:07:36
  free. And then they feel so bad, but
• 1:07:38
  they usually buy him gift cards. But.
• 1:07:39
  He's a. Well, yeah, he's a nice kid.
• 1:07:42
  Great. Great kid.
• 1:07:43
  But yeah, so that's telling you. Yep.
• 1:07:47
  But the little shoe thing, so remember when that happened,
• 1:07:50
  Matthew had flown down to Texas. So he had flown down.
• 1:07:53
  He was probably like 5 or 6. I can't remember what year, what
• 1:07:57
  year that whole shoe bomber incident happened.
• 1:07:59
  So he flew down to Texas to stay with my sister-in-law 'cause she
• 1:08:02
  lived down there at the time. And then coming back was when
• 1:08:06
  after it had happened. And that's when they were like,
• 1:08:08
  everybody has to take their shoes off.
• 1:08:10
  And he looked my sister-in-law because she's like, oh, you have
• 1:08:14
  to take your shoes and put them up on the thing and he goes,
• 1:08:17
  will I get them back? He didn't know what was going on
• 1:08:21
  and he was so upset he thought he wasn't going to get his shoes
• 1:08:24
  back. So.
• 1:08:25
  I've been walking around and stocking feet and all that, and
• 1:08:28
  that was people. That was 2000.
• 1:08:30
  Six. Yeah, in 2006.
• 1:08:33
  Even though I said 9/11, 911 kind of started, it was 2006
• 1:08:36
  after like you just mentioned that bombing that's.
• 1:08:38
  When the shoe bomber. Guy or whatever that was the
• 1:08:40
  one. So yeah.
• 1:08:40
  So now it's been, yeah, 20 years since that, but yeah, little
• 1:08:43
  kids, think about how traumatizing it is for little
• 1:08:45
  kids. You're rushing to get them.
• 1:08:47
  You know, you've got 4 kids, you had four kids.
• 1:08:49
  You're like trying to get all four shoes on.
• 1:08:50
  Trying to get a stroller and this.
• 1:08:52
  Goes on and on. Yeah, you look like a terrorist.
• 1:08:55
  Or you could be OK, OK, I'm I, you know, I'm just trying to,
• 1:08:59
  yeah, get these kids through the line.
• 1:09:01
  So. Got to make, got to make our.
• 1:09:03
  That's a good. But TSA, yeah, that's a that's a
• 1:09:06
  good thing. And, and I know pre-check had
• 1:09:08
  been doing it for a while, but if you don't fly, you don't know
• 1:09:12
  these things. Nope, Nope.
• 1:09:15
  So all right, well, I think we can end it there for podcast
• 1:09:19
  episode #6. I know it's a milestone.
• 1:09:22
  It's a milestone. Yep, since we're done talking
• 1:09:25
  about radio stuff now, we've moved on to regular stuff.
• 1:09:28
  And now you could cut a seat. Where are thinking?
• 1:09:31
  Whether like. Political leanings.
• 1:09:34
  Heath woke. I'm gone.
• 1:09:36
  Yeah, I mean, I'm sure we're going to lose some this episode
• 1:09:41
  between the poop and. The political poop knife.
• 1:09:44
  Poop knife, Exactly. There you go.
• 1:09:47
  When they, when they say that, when you say you learn something
• 1:09:49
  new every day. Well, I learned something new
• 1:09:51
  about poop knife and everybody's going to get that in their stock
• 1:09:53
  in this year. You're welcome.
• 1:09:55
  That's right, Superman is going to be dropping off some nice for
• 1:09:58
  everybody. Well, thank you for listening to
• 1:10:01
  Rick and that Michelle chick. Thank you for sticking it out
• 1:10:03
  with this episode. I stopped it.