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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's victory Monday, December ninth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Jet Home
- 0:15Speaker 1: Loans and now a guy who can ease the pain
- 0:19Speaker 1: of Titans fans everywhere by sending each and every one
- 0:23Speaker 1: of them a packet of mayonnaise. J. P.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Chegar, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour on a
- 0:32Speaker 2: victory Monday. The first hour presented by Jet Home Loans
- 0:37Speaker 2: from the Hundai Studios. A busy two hours ahead. After
- 0:41Speaker 2: Jaguars ten Titans six, a pillow fight of sorts. Jaguars
- 0:47Speaker 2: get it done. JAG's defensive performance was strong. Jaguars second
- 0:51Speaker 2: half and fourth quarter especially offense was good enough, keeping
- 0:56Speaker 2: it real, draft position effect it after this win, we'll
- 1:01Speaker 2: get to that and we keep it real. Fanatics, fan questions,
- 1:03Speaker 2: we'll go around the National Football League. The Jaguars snapping
- 1:07Speaker 2: a five game losing skid. Head coach Doug Peterson after
- 1:10Speaker 2: the game, very happy.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Feels great, feels great to get back in the win.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Calling it's been a while. Hats off to the players.
- 1:29Speaker 3: Battled their tails off defense, I thought all day kept
- 1:32Speaker 3: us in the football game. Came up big with some
- 1:37Speaker 3: you know, with some some PBUs and obviously they're at
- 1:39Speaker 3: the end. And yeah, offense, we we got you know,
- 1:42Speaker 3: slow start, but we we gained momentum as the game
- 1:45Speaker 3: went on. And proud of the guys for you know,
- 1:48Speaker 3: ten points in the fourth quarter and obviously you know,
- 1:51Speaker 3: you know, finishing the game that way. So hats off
- 1:54Speaker 3: to those guys. They battled their tails off and you
- 2:00Speaker 3: can see all of my excitement right here head.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Coach Doug Peterson after the game. More from him coming
- 2:06Speaker 2: up later. We welcome in Hall of Fame left tackle
- 2:08Speaker 2: Tony Boselli and CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, who,
- 2:12Speaker 2: by the way, Tony, as you know, is a proud
- 2:16Speaker 2: alumnus of Arizona State University. The Sun Devils won the
- 2:19Speaker 2: Big Twelve title, earned a first round by in the
- 2:21Speaker 2: twelve team College Football Playoff. They'll await the winner of
- 2:24Speaker 2: Clemson Texas in the Peach Bowl New Year's Day. Pete,
- 2:27Speaker 2: congratulations and good afternoon.
- 2:30Speaker 4: You know, for how many years we've been doing this show,
- 2:32Speaker 4: I've had to deal with Bisselli's USC team and your
- 2:34Speaker 4: Alabama team and neither one of you in the playoffs.
- 2:37Speaker 4: So it's nice that my team is actually in the postseason,
- 2:41Speaker 4: and I'm.
- 2:42Speaker 5: Excited about it. You know, nobody saw this coming.
- 2:44Speaker 4: I didn't see it coming, and it's just it's whatever
- 2:48Speaker 4: they get from here on Al's gravy. But now that
- 2:50Speaker 4: you're there, go win the damn thing.
- 2:51Speaker 6: Is Dillingham that good of a coach?
- 2:54Speaker 5: He's yeah, he's good at what he does.
- 2:57Speaker 4: He's good of the at delegate and he's you know,
- 3:01Speaker 4: one of those guys that gets you emotionally, gets the
- 3:03Speaker 4: guys going. I don't love his end of game management
- 3:07Speaker 4: type of situation sometimes, but he's the right guy for
- 3:10Speaker 4: the job. He's got two good assistants both the offensive
- 3:13Speaker 4: coordinator Marcus Royal.
- 3:14Speaker 5: Used to be the head coach at UNLV, really good coach.
- 3:17Speaker 4: And by the way they take chances, I mean, they
- 3:19Speaker 4: had a fourth and one in their own end and
- 3:23Speaker 4: instead of running the football, took a shot down the
- 3:25Speaker 4: field and hit a big play and that kind of
- 3:26Speaker 4: got him going for the day.
- 3:27Speaker 5: So I like the team.
- 3:28Speaker 4: I don't think they're great, but you know what they
- 3:30Speaker 4: are Tony for the first time ever, big and physical
- 3:34Speaker 4: on the offensive line.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Shocking that works. I mean, I can't believe imagine that.
- 3:39Speaker 6: Running the ball and being good up on the line
- 3:41Speaker 6: of scrimmage is a recipe for victory.
- 3:45Speaker 4: You know who the left guard is, by the way, No,
- 3:49Speaker 4: Ben Coleman Jr.
- 3:51Speaker 6: Oh Big Ben the Sun, big Ben Junior, little bit.
- 3:56Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean that that kid wasn't even bored when
- 3:59Speaker 5: you guys were.
- 4:02Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 4:03Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like, he's good too. He's like a fifty
- 4:06Speaker 5: year seat suiting might come back for six years. He
- 4:09Speaker 5: loves it so much.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Well, Pete, what about the Jacks?
- 4:15Speaker 6: What about that Titans game?
- 4:16Speaker 2: To win? It's a win. I know you were you
- 4:20Speaker 2: said you were disappointed.
- 4:21Speaker 4: Yeah, that's stupid. That's a bad that's a bad, bad win.
- 4:25Speaker 4: I mean, look, come on, what did a comp what's it?
- 4:27Speaker 4: A look at JV.
- 4:29Speaker 5: What's the accomplished jad wins?
- 4:31Speaker 2: Come on, it's a bad win.
- 4:33Speaker 4: If there's such a thing as a good win, it's
- 4:34Speaker 4: a bad I mean a good loss.
- 4:36Speaker 5: It's a bad win. I mean.
- 4:39Speaker 6: The reason I'm gonna disagree with you is because anytime
- 4:42Speaker 6: you beat the Titans up there, it's good.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't happen too often. I mean, and.
- 4:47Speaker 6: I you know how I hate the Titans, so just
- 4:50Speaker 6: beating them and I get what Pete saying, draft position.
- 4:52Speaker 2: You know what.
- 4:55Speaker 6: It wasn't like you came out and said, Oh, we've
- 4:57Speaker 6: got it figured out on offense or this or that
- 4:59Speaker 6: or this. You know, it wasn't. It wasn't a dominating victory,
- 5:05Speaker 6: no or anything like that. But you beat the division rival,
- 5:09Speaker 6: a team that this whole fan base and the organization.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Dislikes greatly, and you did it on the road.
- 5:17Speaker 6: So I get what you're saying, Pete, but I do
- 5:20Speaker 6: disagree because it was the Titans, and it's a good win.
- 5:23Speaker 2: By the way.
- 5:24Speaker 4: You know, it sounded like their crowd I didn't, you know,
- 5:26Speaker 4: you couldn't really tell from TV.
- 5:27Speaker 5: It sounded like their crowd was awful.
- 5:29Speaker 2: There was. It was yeah, half full, I'd say sixty six.
- 5:38Speaker 4: Normally that's a game where a lot of Jaguar fans travel, No,
- 5:41Speaker 4: and I can't imagine there were many of them there either.
- 5:43Speaker 6: No, when you have a two, when you have a two,
- 5:46Speaker 6: when you have a two and ten team going against
- 5:48Speaker 6: a three and nine team at one pm in December,
- 5:53Speaker 6: you're gonna have a lack of interest.
- 5:56Speaker 4: You got two bad teams playing next week in Jacksonville,
- 5:59Speaker 4: so you're probably gonna have a lack of interest for
- 6:00Speaker 4: that one.
- 6:01Speaker 6: It'll be interesting. I will say this, though, Pete you
- 6:05Speaker 6: are you need to stop on the quarterback You should
- 6:09Speaker 6: just you should have stopped picking quarterbacks and guys you
- 6:12Speaker 6: like after you nailed Josh Allen, because since I mean
- 6:15Speaker 6: outside of that.
- 6:16Speaker 5: This might be Trevor Lawrence. Are you saying he's no good?
- 6:18Speaker 6: No, I didn't say that, but I'm saying.
- 6:20Speaker 5: Okay, down the Trevor Lawrence.
- 6:22Speaker 6: No, but I'm talking about guys who everyone liked. Trevor Lawrence.
- 6:26Speaker 4: You the way you always picked the tape of that
- 6:28Speaker 4: game today terrible. That team is terrible. They don't get
- 6:32Speaker 4: nobody open. They run two man routes.
- 6:35Speaker 5: I'm worried.
- 6:36Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you. I'm gonna be pretty frank.
- 6:39Speaker 4: I'm worried about the head coach. I thought Brian Callahan
- 6:44Speaker 4: when I saw him and met him and talked to him,
- 6:47Speaker 4: and I came away impressed by him. But I don't.
- 6:50Speaker 4: I don't like the way that team plays at all,
- 6:52Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you. And and they have a
- 6:55Speaker 4: lot of the same sins that Jacksonville has in their offense.
- 6:58Speaker 5: By the way, the Max for tech two man routes.
- 7:01Speaker 4: How many times you know you had to criticize Lebis
- 7:05Speaker 4: the one throw and going back and watching the whole
- 7:07Speaker 4: take Tony the one throw missed, He missed the tight
- 7:09Speaker 4: end on the fourth down play wide open, missed him.
- 7:12Speaker 5: Never saw him.
- 7:12Speaker 2: How did you not see him? He was looking right
- 7:14Speaker 2: at him.
- 7:15Speaker 5: He threw to the back guy.
- 7:16Speaker 6: I mean he had he had to throw it over
- 7:19Speaker 6: the head of the open guy to go throw it
- 7:22Speaker 6: to the covered guy.
- 7:23Speaker 4: Okay, the pass in the end zone, the receiver said
- 7:26Speaker 4: he should have caught it.
- 7:27Speaker 5: He should have for the touchdown, should have called what
- 7:32Speaker 5: was Ridley doing on the ball?
- 7:33Speaker 4: Well, but he had to Trayvon Walker in his face
- 7:36Speaker 4: and he threw it to him. And he said today,
- 7:38Speaker 4: he said yesterday I watched him. He said he thought
- 7:41Speaker 4: the defensive back was on his hip, So what if
- 7:43Speaker 4: he's on your hip?
- 7:44Speaker 5: He still got to try and get the first down.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Yeah, that was bad.
- 7:47Speaker 6: I thought will Levis could have thrown it a little
- 7:48Speaker 6: bit earlier to give him more room. But yeah, that's
- 7:52Speaker 6: I mean, I'm just telling you watching it.
- 7:56Speaker 4: Like, he made it good, made some good. The throat
- 8:00Speaker 4: on the crosser was a great throw.
- 8:02Speaker 5: And really should have scored.
- 8:04Speaker 4: It was actually a really good play by I think
- 8:05Speaker 4: it was Monterarek Brown who dove at his legs and
- 8:07Speaker 4: tackled them.
- 8:09Speaker 5: But they were I mean, I think they're very predictable.
- 8:14Speaker 6: On that last drive when they got the ball back,
- 8:17Speaker 6: he missed Calvin Ridley on an over route wide open
- 8:21Speaker 6: might scored.
- 8:22Speaker 4: He missed the tight end. The tight end fell down
- 8:24Speaker 4: on a long pass too.
- 8:26Speaker 6: But I'm talking about at the end of the game.
- 8:29Speaker 6: There's a deep he's wide open. We've heard that all
- 8:34Speaker 6: season long on the depots.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Plus, their offensive line stinks. It was a look.
- 8:43Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's played great, but he he has
- 8:46Speaker 4: no chance in that offense zero.
- 8:50Speaker 5: The line stinks.
- 8:51Speaker 4: Did you see Jeffrey Simmons came out after the game
- 8:53Speaker 4: yesterday and said, I'm tired of seeing my quarterback getting
- 8:55Speaker 4: hit all the time. I mean, what was his stupidity?
- 8:58Speaker 4: And by the way, that's a bad look for the
- 9:00Speaker 4: head coach too. What was his stupidity on that hail
- 9:03Speaker 4: mary at the end of the half?
- 9:04Speaker 2: Let him get.
- 9:05Speaker 5: Blasted like that? What was that?
- 9:07Speaker 2: No idea?
- 9:09Speaker 5: I mean, it's just dumb. They do dumb things.
- 9:11Speaker 6: I'll say yesterday, no, no.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Awful, Yes he was. You're not writing him off, Pete.
- 9:17Speaker 2: You're still still believe it. But I'm working him.
- 9:20Speaker 5: I want to see him play fast and loose and
- 9:22Speaker 5: free once in a while.
- 9:23Speaker 2: I mean, we've heard that before, Pete. I was.
- 9:25Speaker 6: I thought it was interesting where and they were just
- 9:28Speaker 6: showing the hit of where he got hammered. The best
- 9:32Speaker 6: the best thing for the for us yesterday was that
- 9:36Speaker 6: Mason Rudolph did not come in because I think he
- 9:37Speaker 6: would have been more effective.
- 9:41Speaker 2: With than Will Levis. But I'll say this, Pete.
- 9:44Speaker 6: You talk about Brian Callahan, I have no idea. In
- 9:49Speaker 6: the first half, they are second in goal from the
- 9:53Speaker 6: two and they've been running the ball with Tony Pollard
- 9:57Speaker 6: pretty dang well, and they threw it three straight times
- 10:01Speaker 6: and come away with no points.
- 10:03Speaker 2: I didn't get that they ran the first eight snaps
- 10:06Speaker 2: of the game in a row right at them.
- 10:08Speaker 5: By the way, that was a questionable hold of the
- 10:10Speaker 5: touchdown that was called back.
- 10:11Speaker 6: I thought it was hold though, Yeah, questionable though.
- 10:15Speaker 5: He didn't need to he was by him already.
- 10:18Speaker 6: But the bottom line is, I don't understand how you
- 10:20Speaker 6: do throw it and run it three times if you
- 10:23Speaker 6: know you're going for and fourth down, just run it.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Run, Yeah, get the yard and that's fourth and one. Yeah.
- 10:30Speaker 5: I don't understand that either. I mean that was a
- 10:32Speaker 5: good tackle by.
- 10:33Speaker 6: A great play by Trayvon Walker because he was scoring.
- 10:35Speaker 6: I thought, and Trayvon showed his strength and power there.
- 10:40Speaker 6: And I thought him and Josh played well. They both
- 10:42Speaker 6: rushed the passer well.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I thought.
- 10:45Speaker 5: I thought the rookie played okay in some spots too.
- 10:48Speaker 6: Mason Smith, Yeah, yeah, he was physical.
- 10:52Speaker 4: He's they got themselves a good I think he's gonna
- 10:54Speaker 4: be a good player.
- 10:55Speaker 5: You know.
- 10:55Speaker 4: Look, Hamilton made a few plays in the room. Yeah,
- 11:00Speaker 4: I mean they have some I think getting Mason Smith
- 11:03Speaker 4: going in by the way, he's gone from a healthy
- 11:05Speaker 4: scradge to starter.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Yeah. He had the most snaps of any defensive tackle
- 11:12Speaker 2: in the game.
- 11:12Speaker 5: Mason was Darby not a starter yesterday.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Let's see Ronald Darby defense. He is not listed as
- 11:21Speaker 2: a starter. No Mont, So he's been benched Tamble and Brown.
- 11:26Speaker 6: Yeah, but they all play a time because they're you know,
- 11:29Speaker 6: it's our hockey team. We know that, well, they and
- 11:31Speaker 6: he comes out he comes in for on Nickel and
- 11:33Speaker 6: Mont k Brown goes inside.
- 11:35Speaker 4: Ronnie Ronnie, Ronald Darby over the boards, Get over the boards.
- 11:39Speaker 5: You're on the shift.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Darby played seventeen snaps in the game.
- 11:44Speaker 6: ACTI, I'm wrong. Darby does not come in Nickel because
- 11:46Speaker 6: Jaron Jones to Nickel. Yeah, he didn't play much seventeen.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Yeah, he played seventeen snaps and Cisco did he started?
- 11:55Speaker 5: No, he didn't start either, right, he.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Was savage for the safeties Johnson.
- 12:02Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but Cisco played a lot of snaps and
- 12:04Speaker 4: actually may have played one of his better games.
- 12:06Speaker 2: For him forty six. Cisco.
- 12:11Speaker 5: What was your take?
- 12:12Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete, watching that game yesterday, what was your overall takeaway?
- 12:15Speaker 4: Two crappy teams. I mean, it's two bad teams, and
- 12:20Speaker 4: they look like two bad teams. You talk about there
- 12:25Speaker 4: are highlights. I mean, don't get me wrong, there were
- 12:27Speaker 4: things you saw from that game where you went away
- 12:29Speaker 4: and you go, Okay, Jacksonville's got some talent and mostly
- 12:34Speaker 4: the wide receiver who didn't touch the ball.
- 12:35Speaker 5: The first half.
- 12:38Speaker 2: The first half, no catchup.
- 12:39Speaker 5: That guy's the star.
- 12:40Speaker 4: Get him the ball. So that stood out to me.
- 12:43Speaker 4: I thought, Walker little again, Tony, it's two weeks in
- 12:46Speaker 4: a row playing a left tackle, did a nice job.
- 12:48Speaker 2: I thought he did too.
- 12:50Speaker 4: I mean he held up and passed protection, did some
- 12:53Speaker 4: really good things, got some interior problems.
- 12:56Speaker 5: You would admit that now, right, Would you agree with
- 12:58Speaker 5: me on that?
- 12:59Speaker 4: I think Mitch Morrise the last month of the season
- 13:01Speaker 4: has gone way backward.
- 13:04Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I mean him and Brandon Sherrifford played
- 13:06Speaker 6: a lot of football ten year guys, and they were
- 13:08Speaker 6: going against two big, powerful men. I mean that's a
- 13:10Speaker 6: tough matchup, no matter what was Sweat and Simmons. So yeah,
- 13:16Speaker 6: And I thought I give credit to Van Lanahan too,
- 13:19Speaker 6: coming in because Van van Lannon, I give him credit
- 13:23Speaker 6: coming in for Anton Harrison who's sick, really sick in
- 13:26Speaker 6: the morning.
- 13:27Speaker 2: And I thought he did a good job filling in.
- 13:29Speaker 5: He did a solid job. He played. Okay, that's exactly
- 13:32Speaker 5: what he's a swing tackle.
- 13:34Speaker 2: That's exactly what a swing tackle.
- 13:36Speaker 5: You're okay with it.
- 13:36Speaker 6: That's exactly what you want you out of your swing tackle.
- 13:39Speaker 6: Come in, Yeah, don't make it a problem, don't don't
- 13:43Speaker 6: be in an issue, be solid, do your job. And
- 13:45Speaker 6: I thought he did a great job at that.
- 13:47Speaker 5: Tody, did you watch the tape?
- 13:49Speaker 4: Yeah, did you did you see the play where where
- 13:53Speaker 4: Simmons came across and Ingram was supposed to trap him
- 13:57Speaker 4: and he kind of like blew him up and then
- 13:59Speaker 4: he like tapped him on the head said, hey, son,
- 14:02Speaker 4: I don't think you want to be doing that too much.
- 14:04Speaker 5: Did you see that?
- 14:05Speaker 6: That wasn't a great That's that play only works if
- 14:09Speaker 6: Evan catches him by surprise. But if Simmons sees his
- 14:12Speaker 6: Cup season coming, it's not good.
- 14:14Speaker 2: I mean, it's not good.
- 14:15Speaker 4: And here's another here's another thing that's perplexing to me
- 14:18Speaker 4: after watching the catch in the middle of the field.
- 14:20Speaker 5: Why aren't they use Strange more?
- 14:24Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought, I think Strange. I still think our
- 14:27Speaker 6: best personnel package is twelve. Like I think our best
- 14:32Speaker 6: personnel is Bigsby at back, Strange and Ingram on the
- 14:36Speaker 6: field with Brian Thomas Jr. And Parker Parker Washington.
- 14:42Speaker 4: Yeah, and they I mean, I just I thought that
- 14:45Speaker 4: they didn't use him enough. They still haven't used him enough,
- 14:48Speaker 4: you know, just a couple of quick notes from the
- 14:50Speaker 4: offense as I go through it. I thought Morrison Sheriff
- 14:53Speaker 4: had their problems. I think Van Lannon battled and I'll
- 14:56Speaker 4: give him credit for that. Uh, Walker Little was really good. Yeah,
- 15:00Speaker 4: it was good, really good pass protection. The left guard
- 15:02Speaker 4: was solid. I mean he was solid, solid game for
- 15:04Speaker 4: left guard. The tight end couldn't block anybody.
- 15:09Speaker 6: Yeah, especially down, especially when they were backed up.
- 15:14Speaker 5: Yeah, he couldn't block me. So that's a problem.
- 15:18Speaker 2: You know.
- 15:19Speaker 4: The running backs I thought had good days, solid days
- 15:22Speaker 4: running the football, not great, but solid days.
- 15:26Speaker 5: Did end a round double reverse to your backup wide receiver.
- 15:30Speaker 5: What the hell is that? I mean, seriously, what is that?
- 15:34Speaker 5: They had? Every Titans defender was standing over there waiting
- 15:38Speaker 5: for him. It didn't fool anybody.
- 15:39Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say no one was tricked. There
- 15:41Speaker 6: was no fake out and that play at all. They
- 15:44Speaker 6: saw it from the beginning and they were ready for it.
- 15:47Speaker 2: Guys, let's come back. We got plenty ahead. We'll break
- 15:50Speaker 2: down defense, how they played, especially in those fourth downs,
- 15:54Speaker 2: and a little more on the offensive play. Yes in
- 15:57Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, what changed and Brian Thomas Junior was
- 16:01Speaker 2: a big reason why things changed Yesterday. Coming up in
- 16:04Speaker 2: the second hour, fanatics fan questions, we'll keep it real
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- 16:28Speaker 2: like a little flat round and Yang kind of like
- 16:31Speaker 2: lost me.
- 16:31Speaker 7: So I kind of like slipped behind in the Max
- 16:34Speaker 7: teaming through Chrys Goobal and I can get the.
- 16:36Speaker 5: First this kind of place.
- 16:38Speaker 2: You guys been missing those big moments and you make more. Yeah,
- 16:41Speaker 2: for sure, Coach have just saying that a whole week,
- 16:44Speaker 2: were gonna get.
- 16:44Speaker 5: One of those plays.
- 16:45Speaker 2: I just gotta be ready for it when he comes,
- 16:47Speaker 2: and the Tanks kind of ready. Brian Thomas, Junior Jaguars
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- 17:12Speaker 2: this time after a Jaguars win ten to six over
- 17:16Speaker 2: the Titans, and it's actually you know, I was thinking
- 17:19Speaker 2: of I didn't even know this, but Kai Stevens brought
- 17:22Speaker 2: it up to me. It's the first time I've been
- 17:23Speaker 2: on this show after a Jags win this year. I
- 17:26Speaker 2: was out the other two times the Jaguars won and
- 17:28Speaker 2: we had a Monday show. So are you saying you're
- 17:30Speaker 2: not this It's just saying this is this is a
- 17:33Speaker 2: new thing for me this season, Pete. We haven't had
- 17:35Speaker 2: this yet.
- 17:36Speaker 5: I haven't they get They get wins that don't matter
- 17:39Speaker 5: when you're around.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Well, okay, geez.
- 17:42Speaker 5: So well, I mean, isn't that true?
- 17:45Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of, it's not wrong, Pete. Where'd you think
- 17:48Speaker 2: about the defense?
- 17:52Speaker 4: I thought you're right, the defensive ends played well and
- 17:54Speaker 4: hard and tough.
- 17:56Speaker 5: I thought, like I said, I thought Mason Smith did
- 17:58Speaker 5: some good things. I thought Hamilton did some good things.
- 18:01Speaker 4: All in all, it was a good I mean, it
- 18:02Speaker 4: was a solid show. But they got pushed around a
- 18:04Speaker 4: little bit early in the run game. Some fits not
- 18:07Speaker 4: good fits, but all on, I thought there was a
- 18:10Speaker 4: solid performance by the defense and again, not a great offense.
- 18:14Speaker 4: It's just their offensive line didn't very good there. You know,
- 18:17Speaker 4: their skilled players aside from Ridley aren't great and uh,
- 18:22Speaker 4: you know, and you said Lewis. He didn't play very well.
- 18:25Speaker 4: It's just not a good offense. But the defense was solid.
- 18:27Speaker 4: I thought, I thought, you know, guys ran to the football.
- 18:31Speaker 4: They played hard. It wasn't like there was any loafing
- 18:33Speaker 4: or anything like that. So I thought it was a good,
- 18:34Speaker 4: solid performance.
- 18:36Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought them playing hard. There's no doubt about it,
- 18:40Speaker 6: no doubt about it. They played hard. There was moments,
- 18:45Speaker 6: there was time during the game they really struggled. Stop
- 18:48Speaker 6: at the run. Yeah, Pallard had over one hundred yards.
- 18:53Speaker 2: Early.
- 18:54Speaker 6: They came out and said we're going to run the
- 18:55Speaker 6: ball and just and just went.
- 18:58Speaker 5: And then they run it like eight straight players they did.
- 19:03Speaker 6: They're passing attack is atrocious. They're not great protecting outside
- 19:11Speaker 6: of Ridley. O Kwonko is a good receiver.
- 19:14Speaker 5: I was, uh, hasn't done much.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Quonko Yeah, it's his name of Quonko saga kan quoquo. Yeah,
- 19:24Speaker 2: not a quanto con quo okan quo okonquo. Oh kN quo,
- 19:28Speaker 2: oh con quo, Yes, thank you yah.
- 19:30Speaker 5: But before you said, oh quonk quo.
- 19:32Speaker 6: Same thing. It is the same, literally the same, it's
- 19:37Speaker 6: exact same. Like he's starting time in it's exactly the same.
- 19:42Speaker 2: I thought. I thought, going to the game.
- 19:44Speaker 5: Your best selling then that's fine.
- 19:47Speaker 6: I thought they'd get a con Quo and Paul are
- 19:52Speaker 6: going in the past game just because of the struggles
- 19:55Speaker 6: we had had coming into the game at the linebacker
- 19:58Speaker 6: and safety position covering. And I'll say this, you look
- 20:04Speaker 6: at the tape, the coverage is pretty dann good. That
- 20:07Speaker 6: coupled with that, coupled with Will Levis is just not
- 20:10Speaker 6: very good. And the lion is not very good. But
- 20:17Speaker 6: if you if you, if you just watched the back
- 20:20Speaker 6: half on tape, there was not guys running wide open
- 20:24Speaker 6: with a lot of separation.
- 20:26Speaker 5: I thought they did, but there's nobody open.
- 20:29Speaker 6: I thought they did a good job in coverage.
- 20:32Speaker 2: Uh.
- 20:32Speaker 4: And like on the two man routes they had three
- 20:35Speaker 4: guys on on Ridley on the one player, you had
- 20:37Speaker 4: nowhere to go with it.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Yeah, but Will Levis is very good.
- 20:43Speaker 6: I just don't think they can do much with that quarterback.
- 20:45Speaker 6: I don't think he's very He's not very accurate.
- 20:48Speaker 5: Well, he played four games leading into that, he was
- 20:50Speaker 5: pretty good. I don't know what you're talking about.
- 20:53Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just telling you what I saw on Sunday.
- 20:57Speaker 5: I mean his numbers were weren't off.
- 21:02Speaker 2: They weren't they were. He was nineteen to thirty two,
- 21:06Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty eight.
- 21:07Speaker 5: Okay, take out the last three in this thirty second came.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Take him out people the stats.
- 21:12Speaker 5: Okay.
- 21:12Speaker 4: On the flip side, I can look at mac Jones's
- 21:14Speaker 4: numbers and say, oh, look at those great numbers. He
- 21:16Speaker 4: had an accidental flick where Brian Thomas got open. That's
- 21:20Speaker 4: an accident he had. He had the running back. How
- 21:24Speaker 4: many What was Etn's catch?
- 21:26Speaker 2: I don't think.
- 21:26Speaker 6: I don't think mac Jones had great numbers. No, but
- 21:30Speaker 6: Matt Jones was twenty two for thirty one, two twenty
- 21:32Speaker 6: with two picks.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Yeah, Thomas had a thirty one yarder receiving and then
- 21:36Speaker 2: Etn had a twenty one yard repete. Yeah.
- 21:38Speaker 5: I mean, look, and mac Jones isn't very good either.
- 21:43Speaker 5: Let's be real.
- 21:45Speaker 4: But I thought I thought the defense played well. I
- 21:49Speaker 4: thought the secondary played as good as they played all year.
- 21:52Speaker 2: If you ask me, and I'm with you, Pete, I agree.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Think it's because of the shakeup of the lineup.
- 21:55Speaker 6: Maybe maybe he got different people, you know starting, you know,
- 22:00Speaker 6: different safety combination for the first time starting Savage and
- 22:03Speaker 6: Antonio Johnson, you had Monterrek Brown getting the start over Darby.
- 22:07Speaker 6: I think Kevin, Jarry and Jones in there is very
- 22:09Speaker 6: I mean a Nickel. I think he's he's a really
- 22:11Speaker 6: good I think he's gonna be a really good player.
- 22:14Speaker 5: Can he be Can he be an outside starter for them?
- 22:18Speaker 4: I don't know, Pete, because that's kind of you know,
- 22:23Speaker 4: you'd like to think that that would be the progression
- 22:25Speaker 4: for him, because look, I know there are certain guys
- 22:29Speaker 4: who are Nichols and Nickel only like Mike Hilton with
- 22:32Speaker 4: the with the Bengals, But you do have guys that
- 22:36Speaker 4: start off as Nichols and then they end up being
- 22:38Speaker 4: going back outside and playing playing on the outside.
- 22:42Speaker 2: He's talented.
- 22:43Speaker 6: I mean he had excuse me, a nice PBu he
- 22:46Speaker 6: had the sack.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Two of them had to, yeah, breakup.
- 22:49Speaker 6: I think he's pretty he's pretty physical in the run game.
- 22:52Speaker 6: He's a good football player.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Attitude about him too. He flies around.
- 22:56Speaker 5: He's the one they got that they got right. You know,
- 22:59Speaker 5: you still need one more corner.
- 23:01Speaker 4: But I think as a whole, I think I think
- 23:04Speaker 4: if you had Campbell, Jones and maybe a high draft
- 23:08Speaker 4: pick corner with Monterrek Brown coming off the bench. That, yeah,
- 23:11Speaker 4: I think you'd be okay with that, you know what
- 23:13Speaker 4: I mean, That would be a good group.
- 23:17Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just yeah, I agree with that when we're
- 23:20Speaker 6: looking at the pass breakup right there in the first half.
- 23:23Speaker 6: And I thought the big part, the big thing in
- 23:26Speaker 6: this game, though, was is the Jaguars inside the red
- 23:31Speaker 6: zone played good defense and they got the two big
- 23:34Speaker 6: fourth down stops, one of the first half, one of
- 23:36Speaker 6: the fourth quarter, and that was the difference in the game. Now,
- 23:40Speaker 6: you could argue, if Callahan just takes the field goals there,
- 23:45Speaker 6: they win. He had no choice on the second one
- 23:48Speaker 6: he had to go for because they were down there
- 23:49Speaker 6: the first one.
- 23:49Speaker 5: I didn't understand why he didn't take the field goal.
- 23:52Speaker 5: I didn't get that one.
- 23:54Speaker 6: I didn't either, Pete, just based on the pace of
- 23:57Speaker 6: the game and how the game was going, right, But
- 24:01Speaker 6: I didn't understand the whole kind of series of plays
- 24:04Speaker 6: of throwing it three times when you're running it well
- 24:07Speaker 6: in your quarterbacks struggling.
- 24:08Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't understand. I don't understand why you wouldn't
- 24:11Speaker 4: just take the field goal there though, And like you said,
- 24:15Speaker 4: it's a pace of the low scoring game, you know,
- 24:17Speaker 4: but then again, we can look around the league and
- 24:19Speaker 4: see idiots all over the league going forward on fourth
- 24:22Speaker 4: down all over you know, it's become a Madden game,
- 24:24Speaker 4: and it's in its way.
- 24:25Speaker 6: That is that is the trend, though, I mean, everybody,
- 24:29Speaker 6: it doesn't work for the Lions. Hold on, hold on,
- 24:34Speaker 6: you say it works for the Lions. I could argue
- 24:38Speaker 6: the Lions aren't weren't in the Super Bowl last year
- 24:41Speaker 6: because they went that. They went on it for fourth down,
- 24:43Speaker 6: didn't take the field goal to make it a three
- 24:45Speaker 6: possession game at the end of the third quarter.
- 24:48Speaker 4: And and they could have taken a field goal late
- 24:50Speaker 4: in the game to tie the game, remember, and they
- 24:52Speaker 4: didn't take it, and the forty nine ers went down
- 24:55Speaker 4: and got a touchdown right off of that because the
- 24:56Speaker 4: momentum flipped.
- 24:57Speaker 5: Again. Look, you could talk to your blue the face.
- 25:00Speaker 5: He got it right, He got it right.
- 25:01Speaker 4: He also let's thot we can go back to Dallas too,
- 25:03Speaker 4: if you want to remember he went forward on fourth
- 25:05Speaker 4: down and they didn't have home field advantage in the
- 25:07Speaker 4: playoffs because he didn't win that game because of some
- 25:09Speaker 4: stupidity and let me go back to last week real quick,
- 25:12Speaker 4: and I know we're off on tangent here, but this
- 25:14Speaker 4: is just the idiot coaches around the league. He went
- 25:17Speaker 4: forward in his own end on fourth down. It was
- 25:20Speaker 4: I think it was at the thirty yard line.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Was yep?
- 25:23Speaker 4: Okay, just just for sake of argument, you get that
- 25:28Speaker 4: you still got to go forty more yards to get points?
- 25:31Speaker 5: Do you not?
- 25:32Speaker 2: Yes?
- 25:33Speaker 5: Is it worth the risk? You still need forty more
- 25:36Speaker 5: yards to get points?
- 25:37Speaker 6: Pete, This is where you and I actually agree and
- 25:41Speaker 6: everyone says, well, it's working for him, okay, but does
- 25:45Speaker 6: he need to do it? I think there are talents
- 25:47Speaker 6: enough team where he doesn't need to.
- 25:49Speaker 5: I'm gonna agreement with it, and.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Secondly to do it.
- 25:51Speaker 6: And secondly, last year it cost him a trip potentially
- 25:55Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl, correct, because they would have gone
- 25:57Speaker 6: up three scores and they would have gone up seventeen
- 25:59Speaker 6: if I'm not mistaken.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Correct, At the end of the third quarter they went
- 26:05Speaker 2: for it.
- 26:06Speaker 6: Everything flipped momentum and all of a sudden the forty
- 26:10Speaker 6: nine ers come back storm in and take the lead.
- 26:13Speaker 4: And then he had another chance to tie it name
- 26:16Speaker 4: late and didn't take it. And you know, the other
- 26:19Speaker 4: night when he went forward on fourth down. That was
- 26:21Speaker 4: one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. I don't
- 26:24Speaker 4: want him having the ball back. What wait if he okay,
- 26:28Speaker 4: let's just say you don't get that. Now, all he
- 26:31Speaker 4: has to do is get the field goal. You don't
- 26:32Speaker 4: want him to go get to tie you. Now, all
- 26:35Speaker 4: he has to do is go get the field goal.
- 26:36Speaker 4: You don't want them to go get.
- 26:37Speaker 5: To beat you. It made no sense to me.
- 26:41Speaker 6: The only reason beat the only reason I kind of
- 26:44Speaker 6: I think I would have kicked it, by the way,
- 26:46Speaker 6: but where I can see his reasoning. Didn't they have
- 26:50Speaker 6: like six or seven starters on defense out for that game,
- 26:53Speaker 6: and so they had a bunch of backups.
- 26:54Speaker 2: I think he might I.
- 26:55Speaker 5: Think, okay, but just get it.
- 26:58Speaker 6: He's taking I can't stop him.
- 27:00Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but the scenario is right, you probably couldn't
- 27:03Speaker 4: stop them, But they would have had the ball with
- 27:05Speaker 4: thirty something seconds left and no timeouts.
- 27:08Speaker 5: To go get a field goal to tie.
- 27:10Speaker 4: You, not to beat you, is what I'm saying. I agree,
- 27:13Speaker 4: I mean, it made no sense. He's out of control.
- 27:17Speaker 4: He's gotta rein it in or he's gonna end up
- 27:19Speaker 4: costing him big time at some point, and a lot
- 27:21Speaker 4: of coaches are Callahan was wrong yesterday, no doubt about it.
- 27:24Speaker 5: Flow of game, like you said, Tony, you gotta kick
- 27:27Speaker 5: that field.
- 27:27Speaker 6: Goal or just run it three times if you want
- 27:29Speaker 6: to go for and fourth down. Okay, run it three
- 27:32Speaker 6: times because you've been moving the ball and you.
- 27:35Speaker 5: Got a quarterback who can is big kid and can move.
- 27:39Speaker 4: Let him take a sneak and once you get to
- 27:41Speaker 4: the one yard line. These guys overthink it.
- 27:45Speaker 2: We're lacking a moment plenty ahead. Well yeah, when we
- 27:48Speaker 2: come back, I want to hear what Pete thinks. What
- 27:50Speaker 2: does this mean.
- 27:53Speaker 6: For the organization? This win against Does it mean anything?
- 27:56Speaker 6: Beating the Titans yesterday?
- 27:58Speaker 5: Well, JP was here for this literally means nothing.
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- 28:35Speaker 7: It was big obviously, you know everything that's been going on,
- 28:40Speaker 7: you know.
- 28:41Speaker 2: Considering last week.
- 28:42Speaker 7: I think we needed it as a team, you know,
- 28:44Speaker 7: so I'm happy we were able to be at our
- 28:46Speaker 7: best when our best was needed.
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- 28:53Speaker 7: the game, but it never lined up with me being
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- 29:34Speaker 2: of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Tony, what are you doing to
- 29:37Speaker 2: your microphone stand? My microphone's too low? How'd you get
- 29:40Speaker 2: your so high like that? Moved my chair?
- 29:44Speaker 6: Maybe moved your chair lower? Well, that's what I finally did.
- 29:47Speaker 2: I love my chair. It's real rocket science around here,
- 29:50Speaker 2: Like I like sitting up higher.
- 29:53Speaker 5: If we can have one of.
- 29:54Speaker 4: Those a week of him trying to do something in there,
- 29:57Speaker 4: it would be we could like film that and sell
- 29:59Speaker 4: that the people they'd left their ass off.
- 30:01Speaker 5: Because of it. I mean, my god, what I mean?
- 30:04Speaker 5: How do you get through life? Sometimes I can't figure
- 30:06Speaker 5: it out?
- 30:06Speaker 2: Angie? Yeah, well there you go, my Wif there's the answer.
- 30:10Speaker 6: Right there, I'm being honest. That's how I get through
- 30:12Speaker 6: most things.
- 30:13Speaker 2: That's right, you know.
- 30:14Speaker 5: By the way, you know, we never got to this
- 30:17Speaker 5: last week.
- 30:17Speaker 4: I wanted the I never heard how JP crashed your
- 30:20Speaker 4: Thanksgiving and how we.
- 30:22Speaker 6: Hold on before we go that I forgot. I buried
- 30:24Speaker 6: the lead Pete before the show. I played in a
- 30:29Speaker 6: little thing for the Jaguars. Some fans to Verizon won
- 30:34Speaker 6: a foursome with me and Scoby out at the stadium.
- 30:39Speaker 2: Course. Really, how'd you play Eagle? On sixteen, really really
- 30:47Speaker 2: tips from the from the back.
- 30:50Speaker 5: Of Now you're playing, well, then eagle.
- 30:52Speaker 6: How about this eagle on sixteen? Then I get up
- 30:54Speaker 6: on seventeen hit a pitching wedge to four five ft?
- 31:00Speaker 2: Was it the Thursday placement? This Sunday was in back.
- 31:04Speaker 6: It was like a Friday Friday back left.
- 31:08Speaker 5: So and then you went Birdie.
- 31:10Speaker 6: No, I hit a good putt the cat. I thought
- 31:13Speaker 6: it was going to break more right to left. The
- 31:15Speaker 6: caddy said, no, I was right, Caddy wrong, he was
- 31:18Speaker 6: right on the eagle putt. So I can't get mad
- 31:20Speaker 6: at that.
- 31:22Speaker 5: But you just called him out. You just called him
- 31:24Speaker 5: out for the for the butt on seventeen.
- 31:25Speaker 6: I didn't call his name out.
- 31:27Speaker 5: Well what was his What was your caddy's name?
- 31:29Speaker 2: I'm not saying. I'm not gonna say.
- 31:30Speaker 6: I don't want I don't want to hurt his feelings.
- 31:32Speaker 2: He was going to say it, how long was the
- 31:34Speaker 2: eagle put it?
- 31:35Speaker 5: If you were Caddy, call on him. We want to
- 31:37Speaker 5: hear him call he's bad mouth and no.
- 31:39Speaker 2: He's great Caddy.
- 31:40Speaker 6: I'm just saying, we misread it, that's all not we
- 31:43Speaker 6: he Ultimately we misread it because I got up and
- 31:47Speaker 6: hit the putt.
- 31:48Speaker 5: But you said you what you said is you read
- 31:51Speaker 5: it the right way wrong.
- 31:54Speaker 6: The bottom line is I made eagle on sixteen.
- 31:57Speaker 4: Okay, No, the bottom line is you called that your
- 31:59Speaker 4: caddy on seventh shot.
- 32:02Speaker 5: Give you a bad line there too.
- 32:03Speaker 6: No, I hit a below average drive and then I
- 32:08Speaker 6: was so. I was long, a long way out, like
- 32:10Speaker 6: two hundred and five yards out, and I tried to
- 32:12Speaker 6: hit a four iron and might have pulled it into
- 32:15Speaker 6: the water, and they ended up making double bogie to
- 32:20Speaker 6: shoot eighty one. I had to shoot at it par
- 32:23Speaker 6: to make seventy shoot seventy nine shot eighty one.
- 32:26Speaker 5: You're playing well, it must he must be playing a lot.
- 32:28Speaker 6: No, I'm not not playing a lot.
- 32:30Speaker 5: But hey, that's why you're playing well, because you're not playing.
- 32:33Speaker 6: A natural pete. I'm a natural athlete. Okay, So natural
- 32:37Speaker 6: athletes do well.
- 32:38Speaker 4: Maybe when your bionic hips and shoulders have helped you become.
- 32:41Speaker 2: A better golf were like four years old.
- 32:44Speaker 6: I do have fake hips, but the shoulders are still
- 32:46Speaker 6: the original crap.
- 32:50Speaker 5: So the hip did the hip surgery help your golf?
- 32:53Speaker 6: It hurts a lot less to play golf, and I
- 32:55Speaker 6: can walk playing golf now.
- 32:56Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 32:57Speaker 5: Okay, So that was today.
- 32:58Speaker 2: But back to Yeah, he didn't crash. He was invited.
- 33:02Speaker 2: He came over. He you know, I'm sitting right here
- 33:06Speaker 2: right he I said, you didn't crash.
- 33:08Speaker 6: I can like, No, I'm describing.
- 33:11Speaker 2: Like you're saying here, I'm trying to describe what we
- 33:15Speaker 2: I'm trying to you just say what we did.
- 33:18Speaker 5: Yeah, go ahead, J you do it because you'll get
- 33:20Speaker 5: to the point quicker.
- 33:21Speaker 2: He fried turkeys in the morning. I wanted to go
- 33:23Speaker 2: early before everybody showed up and get some time to
- 33:25Speaker 2: hang out. So we hung out. I watched him fried turkeys.
- 33:27Speaker 2: We had a cigar too, and then I went on
- 33:30Speaker 2: my way at like one o'clock. It was great. So
- 33:32Speaker 2: you didn't any No, he left.
- 33:35Speaker 6: He went over to our another friend of ours, Dave
- 33:37Speaker 6: vaultments Angie was offended that JP didn't stay. He showed up,
- 33:43Speaker 6: had a couple drinks, adult beverages. You did too, By
- 33:50Speaker 6: the way, that's what we did. See there you go
- 33:53Speaker 6: again like singling people out.
- 33:54Speaker 2: We did. We It's a team thing, man.
- 33:57Speaker 5: It's pretty interesting. On the bus, like he did the
- 33:59Speaker 5: cash bus.
- 34:01Speaker 2: I'm saying you, that's what you said, Like you're looking
- 34:04Speaker 2: down to me.
- 34:05Speaker 6: Ever, so last year this tradition started for me because
- 34:09Speaker 6: before last year I was doing Westwood one games every Thanksgiving, right,
- 34:13Speaker 6: and now that I don't have to do that anymore,
- 34:14Speaker 6: which is it's great love my guys at Westwood one,
- 34:17Speaker 6: but I'm glad I'm not doing it. Is get up
- 34:23Speaker 6: Thanksgiving morning, take a little family turkey trot, which is
- 34:26Speaker 6: a walk on the beach for an hour, and then
- 34:28Speaker 6: come back and I start prepping the birds, get the
- 34:31Speaker 6: birds ready, get the oil ready, heat the oil, and
- 34:36Speaker 6: then JP comes over, came over, sit down, have an
- 34:41Speaker 6: adult beverage cigar, and fried two turkeys. And we did
- 34:44Speaker 6: that for about two hours and then JP left.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Pete, you should have seen the I thought we were
- 34:49Speaker 2: gonna have one of those viral videos on the first.
- 34:51Speaker 5: One where it explodes.
- 34:54Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it was like I stepped away from the pot.
- 34:57Speaker 2: This thing was bubbling, like we had a little hot
- 35:02Speaker 2: the oil got a little hot. I mean he put
- 35:04Speaker 2: in there.
- 35:06Speaker 4: Yeah, he wouldn't be the guy I would pick to
- 35:08Speaker 4: be doing fried turkeys.
- 35:09Speaker 6: JP, give me some credit. Did I not have it
- 35:11Speaker 6: under control? Did anything go wrong?
- 35:13Speaker 2: Nothing caught fire? There might have been a little oil spilled.
- 35:17Speaker 2: It happened.
- 35:18Speaker 5: Okay, so how they turn out the first one?
- 35:22Speaker 6: So I'll be honest the first one. So what happened
- 35:25Speaker 6: was I have a thermometer, but the monitor wasn't all
- 35:27Speaker 6: the way in, so the oil got too hot. And
- 35:30Speaker 6: I should have waited for the oil to cool down,
- 35:33Speaker 6: but I was in a hurry, so I dropped the
- 35:35Speaker 6: first bird in and a little dry, a little overcooked.
- 35:40Speaker 6: Second bird. Perfect. That's why I always make two birds,
- 35:44Speaker 6: so you get two shots.
- 35:47Speaker 2: Got it?
- 35:47Speaker 5: Said?
- 35:48Speaker 8: You bad mouthed the caddy, I mean badmouth the caddies
- 35:52Speaker 8: thanks Giving next year to make up for it, Hey, Caddy,
- 35:56Speaker 8: if you county for Tony Boselli, I hope you like
- 35:59Speaker 8: fried turkey because next year you might be going to
- 36:00Speaker 8: his house for Thanksgiving.
- 36:03Speaker 6: JP laughed, and then thirty five of my family showed up.
- 36:06Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot OF's walking around, a lot of them.
- 36:09Speaker 4: But well, next year to be the thirty five and
- 36:12Speaker 4: the caddy you owe him.
- 36:15Speaker 5: You owe the caddy, Pete.
- 36:17Speaker 6: If you want to have a good time, you can
- 36:18Speaker 6: come join Pete and I, I mean JP and I.
- 36:20Speaker 2: It's we haven't loved that. We enjoyed it. It's a
- 36:22Speaker 2: pretty good. Uh, pretty good lady. Plus it was just beautiferfect.
- 36:26Speaker 2: The weather was perfect, perfect day. It was did you
- 36:29Speaker 2: do Pete? I was.
- 36:31Speaker 4: I worked that day. I had kid and then I
- 36:33Speaker 4: came home and had Thanksgiving here. I worked, I had
- 36:37Speaker 4: studio stuff that day. I'm like Tony when he used
- 36:39Speaker 4: to do Westwood one. You don't do Westwood one at
- 36:41Speaker 4: all anymore.
- 36:41Speaker 6: Nope, none, zero, zilch.
- 36:44Speaker 5: Did they fire you? Do you fire them?
- 36:47Speaker 6: I would say that it was, uh, I can tell you, yeah.
- 36:51Speaker 6: The truth is I left. I was trying to think
- 36:53Speaker 6: of a nice way to say I left.
- 36:56Speaker 5: It was just too much with everything.
- 36:57Speaker 6: It was too much travel. It was just I mean,
- 37:00Speaker 6: I'm travel it's too much. Obviously I'm jagged. Are my priority,
- 37:05Speaker 6: and then I'm running this company out on the West coast.
- 37:08Speaker 2: It's just I was.
- 37:09Speaker 6: It was planes, trains, automobiles, and I was like, enough
- 37:12Speaker 6: is enough?
- 37:13Speaker 4: Well, since you're since you're now in place here Jaguars
- 37:18Speaker 4: only you were going to ask the question about what
- 37:20Speaker 4: does this mean?
- 37:21Speaker 2: What does it mean? What does it mean to organization?
- 37:23Speaker 4: Well, it means it cost him. It cost him a
- 37:25Speaker 4: spot in the draft right now, So that hurts don't.
- 37:28Speaker 4: And people could say there's no number one pick, but
- 37:31Speaker 4: if you had the number one overall pick, you could
- 37:33Speaker 4: use it to bargain with.
- 37:34Speaker 6: I would say, I agree, pe, because you know, you
- 37:37Speaker 6: might say there's not a Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow
- 37:42Speaker 6: or you know, top wrong highly sought after quarterback Caleb Williams,
- 37:48Speaker 6: whoever it is this year, but there's still quarterbacks. Like
- 37:54Speaker 6: should the shade standers sedure? Should door standards?
- 38:01Speaker 2: Should? I asked?
- 38:02Speaker 5: I didn't.
- 38:02Speaker 2: I don't know. Say it with me? Should Shud door Sanders?
- 38:06Speaker 6: Yes, I'm just asking. I've not done college games this year,
- 38:13Speaker 6: dion Son.
- 38:16Speaker 2: Shure, we doing charre chedure?
- 38:25Speaker 5: Closed the door?
- 38:26Speaker 2: Shared?
- 38:27Speaker 5: I mean it's not that hard.
- 38:30Speaker 2: Nice. Oh it's door. I thought it was door. It's door,
- 38:33Speaker 2: Shador Sanders.
- 38:34Speaker 6: Okay, sure, Dore, thank you. It's much easier. I didn't
- 38:36Speaker 6: know it was door. Oh my god, Shador Sanders. Uh,
- 38:40Speaker 6: somebody's inna trade up because I mean teams need quarterbacks
- 38:43Speaker 6: and Cam Moore too, and Cam Moore, I mean, so
- 38:45Speaker 6: somebody's in right now.
- 38:47Speaker 4: But the way it is right now, the Raiders and
- 38:49Speaker 4: Giants both need quarterbacks, and so now they're going to
- 38:52Speaker 4: get them if they stay this way in Jacksonville's value
- 38:54Speaker 4: of that draft pick just went down the toilet.
- 38:56Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if it'll stay like this, Oh, Pete,
- 38:59Speaker 6: four games left, lock and go on. Although the Raiders
- 39:03Speaker 6: are down to the third quarterback Desmond.
- 39:04Speaker 5: Ryder, Giants are down to their third quarterback.
- 39:08Speaker 6: JAG's Raiders head to head coming up, that could determine
- 39:12Speaker 6: a lot in the draft.
- 39:15Speaker 4: So yeah, but the marketing went away because now if
- 39:18Speaker 4: you're picking it, if you have the fifth pick or
- 39:20Speaker 4: the sixth pick or the seventh pick.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna be able to trade down to
- 39:23Speaker 2: get picks.
- 39:24Speaker 4: Right, So that by winning, you lost. So I mean,
- 39:30Speaker 4: you look Tony, you guys talking about beating the Titans
- 39:33Speaker 4: and how grat it feels. Is a great, Well you
- 39:34Speaker 4: beat the Titans. Does anybody give a damn? You beat
- 39:37Speaker 4: the Titans and the team when they're they're awful and
- 39:39Speaker 4: you're awful. Nobody cares.
- 39:41Speaker 6: I will say this, Pete, I care. But you you
- 39:44Speaker 6: have an interesting point. The feeling around the city, at
- 39:49Speaker 6: least that I get like people didn't like there wasn't
- 39:53Speaker 6: a lot of buzz about Titans.
- 39:55Speaker 2: You know, usually Titans week, it's a big deal. There
- 39:57Speaker 2: are too and ten going in.
- 39:59Speaker 6: I get that, but it's always like, but nobody cared,
- 40:02Speaker 6: or I shouldn't say nobody, it was the people care.
- 40:05Speaker 6: The interest level wasn't where it typically is.
- 40:09Speaker 4: And you guys have gone to Nashville plenty of time
- 40:11Speaker 4: for that game, and even when they haven't been great,
- 40:14Speaker 4: there's been.
- 40:14Speaker 6: A it's a buzz, it's a it's a big deal.
- 40:17Speaker 5: Yeah. And then if they're.
- 40:19Speaker 4: Judging by what I saw on Twitter and stuff that
- 40:21Speaker 4: didn't or act it, it didn't seem like anybody was
- 40:23Speaker 4: there or few.
- 40:24Speaker 6: People and now and so then you beat them, you
- 40:27Speaker 6: would think people would be pumped. That's not the feeling
- 40:30Speaker 6: I'm getting today. Whether it's a X or UH local radio,
- 40:36Speaker 6: it's kind of people are like, Eh, okay, we're three
- 40:39Speaker 6: and ten. That that bothers me. That's what bothers me, because.
- 40:45Speaker 5: Because they're smart, they realize what happened.
- 40:49Speaker 6: I get that, Pete, And when I said, it bothers me.
- 40:52Speaker 6: Not that the fans reaction. The fans are the fans.
- 40:55Speaker 6: They have every right to react however the heck they want.
- 40:57Speaker 6: They are fans, They you know, love this. They look,
- 41:00Speaker 6: they wanted to win. They're frustrated this pointing. So I'm
- 41:03Speaker 6: not disappointed in their reaction. I'm disappointed that we're sitting
- 41:07Speaker 6: here in an NFL season that winning a game in
- 41:12Speaker 6: Tennessee is just like blah, like nobody's like huh okay,
- 41:16Speaker 6: well how bad this?
- 41:18Speaker 2: That's my point, Bete. That's what's bothered you. That I'm
- 41:22Speaker 2: with you.
- 41:22Speaker 6: That's where and this is not like our fans are great,
- 41:25Speaker 6: no shots fans.
- 41:26Speaker 2: I get it just for Tony Biselli's.
- 41:30Speaker 6: Frustration level, where I know what it means to go
- 41:34Speaker 6: play in Nashville against the Titans and win and to
- 41:38Speaker 6: beat them as ugly as it was. That there's just like, eh, okay,
- 41:46Speaker 6: month to go. Yeah, like when's it can be over?
- 41:50Speaker 6: That bothers me and that's not a good state to
- 41:52Speaker 6: be in.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment. We will get our
- 41:55Speaker 2: final thoughts in our opening hour and then, as we
- 41:59Speaker 2: always do, we can.
- 42:00Speaker 6: To our two is that what we do is chador listening.
- 42:03Speaker 2: I don't know to get his name wrong again? Got
- 42:06Speaker 2: it right? Is that the Caddies name?
- 42:08Speaker 5: Also?
- 42:09Speaker 2: Maybe what was the Caddies?
- 42:12Speaker 6: I'm not telling people not because because because you got
- 42:16Speaker 6: because you guys are saying I'm bad mouthing the caddy.
- 42:18Speaker 4: I'm not bad mouthing you did that about the cout caddy.
- 42:24Speaker 5: It his job is.
- 42:25Speaker 2: To read the putt. He misread the putt. We're back
- 42:29Speaker 2: in a moment he did. It's Jack presented by Jet
- 42:34Speaker 2: Home Loans.
- 42:42Speaker 5: Great calls, great communication.
- 42:44Speaker 2: I know Foyer was big on communicating the plays, and
- 42:46Speaker 2: you know, pre snap it allowed us to play a
- 42:49Speaker 2: little bit faster and guys in the back end making
- 42:51Speaker 2: the plays that one of them was being called Josh
- 42:54Speaker 2: Haines Allen might be wearing one of the biggest chains
- 42:57Speaker 2: I've ever seen since mister T. And that was him
- 43:01Speaker 2: after the game in the locker room in Nashville Welcome
- 43:03Speaker 2: Back Jaguars Happy Hour. That you know what he used
- 43:06Speaker 2: to call that. I don't know if the kids still
- 43:08Speaker 2: call it this the Mister T starter set.
- 43:12Speaker 6: I mean that's what we used to call it, like
- 43:14Speaker 6: I like in high school, or even maybe call it
- 43:17Speaker 6: the high school. You see a kid were like some chains,
- 43:20Speaker 6: we say, he's got the mister T.
- 43:22Speaker 2: Starter starter set. I don't even want to know what
- 43:26Speaker 2: you got that too, right, Yeah, it's on your shelf
- 43:28Speaker 2: back there.
- 43:29Speaker 6: But you've heard that, mister t star set.
- 43:32Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to have I have one right here.
- 43:34Speaker 6: Look pizza pizza chain where Yeah, look at that. Yeah,
- 43:39Speaker 6: it's one of those dog chains. That one is dog
- 43:42Speaker 6: I mean dog tags, dog tag. Yeah. Were you in
- 43:46Speaker 6: the military?
- 43:47Speaker 2: Feet I didn't know that.
- 43:48Speaker 5: No, No, I was not. My wife got me a
- 43:50Speaker 5: Tiffany dog tag because I was one to one.
- 43:52Speaker 2: Wow.
- 43:54Speaker 6: I'm not going to say anything because your wife got
- 43:55Speaker 6: it for you.
- 43:56Speaker 2: That's nice. It's a nice gift, Pete, very nice, Pete.
- 43:58Speaker 2: It is.
- 43:59Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 44:00Speaker 6: So on the break, we were looking, uh, we were
- 44:02Speaker 6: looking up. How do you actually pronounce Shoudre Sanders?
- 44:06Speaker 2: You were looking it up, we were not.
- 44:07Speaker 6: It's not uh you guys said Shadoor, it's Schaudre.
- 44:14Speaker 2: Should do well.
- 44:16Speaker 5: If you say door, I'm just jp.
- 44:23Speaker 2: You said.
- 44:26Speaker 5: You do well? How do you say when you go
- 44:30Speaker 5: through that thing over there?
- 44:31Speaker 2: What is it a door?
- 44:34Speaker 6: Or I'm looking at the pronunciation.
- 44:39Speaker 2: According to YouTube, do.
- 44:42Speaker 5: You watch his games? Ever? They say it?
- 44:44Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 44:45Speaker 5: J watches games?
- 44:46Speaker 2: How do they?
- 44:46Speaker 4: So?
- 44:46Speaker 6: Do you think all announcers get it right?
- 44:48Speaker 2: Pete Shoudre Sanders? Right?
- 44:52Speaker 4: Yeah, Well you're trying to put like a you're putting
- 44:54Speaker 4: like the Cajun accent on it or something like the
- 44:57Speaker 4: Louisiana what do they call that thing?
- 44:59Speaker 5: The this is what happened?
- 45:02Speaker 2: You talk about Sanders? Yeah, and you're three and ten because.
- 45:06Speaker 4: Your door Sanders was valid and really there's a reason
- 45:10Speaker 4: to talk to him until they won the damn game.
- 45:12Speaker 6: Would people trade up for yes, yeah.
- 45:17Speaker 4: Yes, and and somebody would trade up for cam Wood
- 45:21Speaker 4: probably too. So yeah, if you if you pick second,
- 45:23Speaker 4: you're still in a spot where you can move down.
- 45:26Speaker 4: And fine, you're not moving down and get it. You're
- 45:28Speaker 4: not getting any picks for that.
- 45:29Speaker 2: You think Milroe gets up there?
- 45:30Speaker 5: Pete ain't going that high.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Who's he was terrible this year. He's been hot and cold.
- 45:38Speaker 5: He's project.
- 45:39Speaker 4: He's a big physical kid, can run and he gets
- 45:41Speaker 4: hot and then he looks awful at time.
- 45:43Speaker 2: So I can come out.
- 45:46Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll come out.
- 45:48Speaker 4: But but again, though, nobody's going up to five to
- 45:51Speaker 4: go get mill Row. So that pick that was valuable
- 45:57Speaker 4: is no longer valuable anymore from an asset standpoint. It
- 46:00Speaker 4: can be valuable for views it the right way, and
- 46:03Speaker 4: that's the other part of this equation. We gotta get
- 46:06Speaker 4: into does a little bit of a winning streak and wins,
- 46:10Speaker 4: does that change the temperature on the people in the
- 46:13Speaker 4: building and the coach.
- 46:16Speaker 6: Okay, that's a great question, Pete, from who's standpoint, from
- 46:23Speaker 6: the only person who matters standpoint or from the fan
- 46:27Speaker 6: base's standpoint?
- 46:28Speaker 5: It Well, let's ask it from the only person that
- 46:30Speaker 5: matters standpoint.
- 46:32Speaker 6: I don't know the answer to that because I don't
- 46:34Speaker 6: know what he's stay. Yeah, I have no idea what.
- 46:37Speaker 5: Nobody has any idea what he's thinking.
- 46:38Speaker 4: If if let's be real, the majority of people thought
- 46:41Speaker 4: he would have fired somebody at the buy and he didn't.
- 46:43Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have no idea what he's thinking. From
- 46:48Speaker 2: the talk about that though. And yeah, when we come back,
- 46:50Speaker 2: we're gonna keep that real, is what we'll do. Okay,
- 46:52Speaker 2: keep it real. Like coming up in just a little bit,
- 46:54Speaker 2: Our one in the books, Hour two coming up it
- 46:58Speaker 2: is shag Wars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.
- 47:10Speaker 9: You can't get to five and zero unless you get
- 47:12Speaker 9: to one. Okay, all right, so hey, check the box.
- 47:17Speaker 9: Check the box. We gotta go back to work. No,
- 47:19Speaker 9: we got another one coming next week. Hey, just keeps rolling. Okay,
- 47:22Speaker 9: But I'm so proud of you guys for the way
- 47:24Speaker 9: you work, the way you hang together through and through
- 47:27Speaker 9: through highs, through lows, ad Birsty, whatever it is.
- 47:29Speaker 5: Through injury.
- 47:30Speaker 2: It takes every single one of us. So my hat's
- 47:32Speaker 2: off to your great job. But before we go, we
- 47:34Speaker 2: gotta get it back. Okay, we gotta get it back.
- 47:36Speaker 2: So are you ready?
- 47:38Speaker 3: One?
- 47:38Speaker 2: Two three? Head coach Chuck Peterson in the locker room
- 47:43Speaker 2: after the Jaguars win in Nashville. Welcome back. It's Jaguars
- 47:48Speaker 2: Happy Hour, the second Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings
- 47:51Speaker 2: before the game, after the game, and during the game.
- 47:54Speaker 2: We're on ten to nexts Lam Jaguars dot Com Jaguars YouTube.
- 47:58Speaker 2: After the Jaguars snapped a five game losing skin a
- 48:00Speaker 2: ten to six win over the Tennessee Titans, all ten
- 48:03Speaker 2: points in the fourth quarter for the Jags. The Jags
- 48:05Speaker 2: d stopped three fourth down tries for the Titans, two
- 48:08Speaker 2: of those done around the goal line. Jags offense with
- 48:11Speaker 2: those late points ten in the fourth quarter. As we said,
- 48:15Speaker 2: after really struggling in the first half of the game,
- 48:18Speaker 2: rookies led the way of the game. Brian Thomas Junior
- 48:20Speaker 2: eight receptions, all in the second half. Jarion Jones, the cornerback,
- 48:23Speaker 2: with five tackles, a key sack, two passes defensed. Jaguars
- 48:27Speaker 2: now three and ten, four games to go, and Pete,
- 48:30Speaker 2: you can't win five until you win one. So there
- 48:34Speaker 2: you go.
- 48:35Speaker 5: Whatever the hell that means.
- 48:38Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, what is it they gonna feel
- 48:41Speaker 4: great about a five game winning streak going into the season.
- 48:44Speaker 2: I mean, well, Pete, what he saves their jobs?
- 48:48Speaker 5: Will?
- 48:48Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna say. Depends on the perspective, Right.
- 48:51Speaker 5: Whose job is it saving?
- 48:53Speaker 2: I'm assuming everybody's.
- 48:56Speaker 5: Do you think a five game winning streak saves the jobs?
- 48:59Speaker 2: I have no earthly idea. I have no idea.
- 49:06Speaker 5: They have this. By the way, they have the easiest
- 49:08Speaker 5: schedule in the league.
- 49:09Speaker 2: Yes, they do straight schedule. Yes, that's right.
- 49:12Speaker 5: I mean, so you got to take that for what
- 49:15Speaker 5: it's worth.
- 49:15Speaker 4: If you were going to make a change before the
- 49:19Speaker 4: soft part of the schedule, then I think you should
- 49:21Speaker 4: still make you change. I don't think what happens against
- 49:25Speaker 4: this part of the schedule should change at all.
- 49:28Speaker 5: The feeling of what you were going to do, if
- 49:30Speaker 5: you were going to do anything. That's all I'm saying.
- 49:35Speaker 6: So you don't think because we ended the last hour
- 49:38Speaker 6: in the last segment, you know, and I think all
- 49:41Speaker 6: of us agree, we don't know what Sead is thinking.
- 49:47Speaker 2: No idea, by the way, this is keeping it real,
- 49:49Speaker 2: presented by nobody, go ahead, proceed, So.
- 49:51Speaker 6: We don't know what Chad's thinking and Schod's. I mean,
- 49:54Speaker 6: this is this is how he operates it since he's
- 49:57Speaker 6: been here. He keeps a very close tight circle. He
- 50:00Speaker 6: he'll make up his mind when he wants to make
- 50:03Speaker 6: up his mind. He'll make a move when he wants
- 50:05Speaker 6: to make a move, and so until then it's going
- 50:07Speaker 6: to be very quiet, and so nobody should be surprised
- 50:11Speaker 6: or think this is out of the ordinary. I think
- 50:13Speaker 6: this is kind of since he's been the owner, how
- 50:16Speaker 6: things have worked, and every owner does it a little
- 50:18Speaker 6: bit different. And this is his personality and this is
- 50:20Speaker 6: how he does it. So I think it's ridiculous to
- 50:22Speaker 6: speculate what sed is thinking one way or another outside
- 50:25Speaker 6: of the fact that he's not happy being three and ten.
- 50:30Speaker 6: I think that's a safe assumption to make.
- 50:33Speaker 4: I mean, especially when he and he's not going to
- 50:35Speaker 4: be happy on Sunday when I was just looking you
- 50:37Speaker 4: can get tickets for fifteen bucks.
- 50:39Speaker 6: Yes, well it's not and you know against the Texans
- 50:44Speaker 6: at home, a division rival. Yes, it was the holiday weekends,
- 50:47Speaker 6: so maybe people are traveling. But I think he had
- 50:50Speaker 6: about forty thousand people in the building.
- 50:53Speaker 4: And now it's the Jets who are terrible and they
- 50:55Speaker 4: don't have a fan base that travels like like some
- 50:58Speaker 4: of those other fails like the past the Steam.
- 51:00Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe you get a little bit of a bump
- 51:02Speaker 6: because it's Aaron Rodgers from a couple of people want
- 51:04Speaker 6: to come.
- 51:04Speaker 2: See him play. It'll be the last chance to see
- 51:06Speaker 2: him here, So maybe that does it. And so you
- 51:10Speaker 2: know he doesn't like that.
- 51:11Speaker 6: But as far as what he's thinking about the organization
- 51:14Speaker 6: and whatever changes are are not in the future, we
- 51:19Speaker 6: don't know. And so I think the question that we
- 51:23Speaker 6: can should talk about it would be it's.
- 51:25Speaker 2: Interesting to me at least, is how does the what
- 51:27Speaker 2: is the overall fan base feel?
- 51:30Speaker 6: Does Does a five game winning streak get this fan
- 51:33Speaker 6: base excited about next year of basically running it back
- 51:37Speaker 6: with the same everyone in the same seats.
- 51:42Speaker 5: I don't think they do.
- 51:43Speaker 4: I think the fans, if they're smart enough to realize
- 51:46Speaker 4: what you look at on paper is they're beating a
- 51:49Speaker 4: bunch of teams that aren't very good, and like you
- 51:53Speaker 4: said today, there wasn't in Jacksonville. You said there wasn't
- 51:56Speaker 4: a big time feeling about beating the Titan.
- 51:59Speaker 2: I feel did you? Did you? JP? I mean, I
- 52:01Speaker 2: wasn't out a lot today, but I wasn't out a lot.
- 52:03Speaker 2: I mean I was this morning. It was about the
- 52:05Speaker 2: only time.
- 52:05Speaker 5: But on the radio.
- 52:06Speaker 4: You listen to the talk radio on there when you're
- 52:08Speaker 4: driving around, so I'm sure you heard some of that.
- 52:10Speaker 5: I guarantee you there wasn't a good feeling about it.
- 52:13Speaker 6: I'm a little bit I heard, Yeah, a little bit
- 52:16Speaker 6: I heard. And then out at the Sagress there was
- 52:19Speaker 6: no No one comes to me and says they had
- 52:22Speaker 6: great win or excited or anything like that.
- 52:26Speaker 4: You know, if they win the next four games, I
- 52:28Speaker 4: don't think it's going to be any different than the
- 52:29Speaker 4: feeling you had today in that town.
- 52:31Speaker 5: Because they're smart.
- 52:32Speaker 4: They're smart football fans are going to look at it
- 52:33Speaker 4: and say, Okay, read the schedule to me.
- 52:35Speaker 5: The Jets, they stink.
- 52:38Speaker 4: Jets, Raiders, Titans, and the Colts aren't a bad football team.
- 52:44Speaker 5: So if you went through there and won that one.
- 52:46Speaker 2: That the Colts could be playing for something then too.
- 52:49Speaker 5: Yeah, well we'll know this week because the Colts play
- 52:51Speaker 5: the Broncos.
- 52:51Speaker 4: And I think if the Broncos beat the Colts, I
- 52:53Speaker 4: think it pretty much puts a kibosh on anything they
- 52:55Speaker 4: can do.
- 52:55Speaker 2: So but.
- 52:59Speaker 4: You're right though, so there's no feeling now if they
- 53:02Speaker 4: beat the Jets, Raiders and Titans in a row, nobody's
- 53:05Speaker 4: gonna feel any differently about where that team went this year.
- 53:08Speaker 4: They just won't and and and the organization and the
- 53:11Speaker 4: coach can talk that talk all day wanted the fans,
- 53:14Speaker 4: the fans won't care one iota that they beat those teams.
- 53:17Speaker 5: None zero.
- 53:20Speaker 6: Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know the answer. I mean
- 53:24Speaker 6: the feel I get. And this is listen, small sample size.
- 53:28Speaker 6: You know what I listened to on radio walking around
- 53:31Speaker 6: you know the community. But a big thing is I'm
- 53:34Speaker 6: on several big text chains with you know, buddies and
- 53:39Speaker 6: people from the country club and guys play golf, and
- 53:42Speaker 6: the first half of the year on Sundays and around
- 53:45Speaker 6: it is all jags and almost nothing now nothing after
- 53:52Speaker 6: the game, Like it's that's like so e gauging it
- 53:55Speaker 6: from that standpoint.
- 53:57Speaker 5: It's checked out, the city's checked out. Let's be real
- 54:00Speaker 5: turn out and so that.
- 54:01Speaker 6: But I wonder winning cures everything and can you win
- 54:05Speaker 6: and that? No, I think you might be right, Pete,
- 54:09Speaker 6: But it will be interesting. I mean, let's let's hopefully.
- 54:14Speaker 2: We find out, you know, or hopefully you don't find out.
- 54:19Speaker 2: That's one option too. There's two views on this, apparently.
- 54:22Speaker 6: But my point is is that's a question I have
- 54:25Speaker 6: is how does that make the fan base feel? Does
- 54:29Speaker 6: winning out getting the seven wins, seven and ten? Does
- 54:34Speaker 6: that make like, Okay, we just had we lost some
- 54:37Speaker 6: close games and we're right on the verge of being
- 54:41Speaker 6: a team contending for the playoffs and winning the division.
- 54:45Speaker 4: No, because you're playing with a backup quarterback anyways, I
- 54:48Speaker 4: mean no, any No, it doesn't.
- 54:50Speaker 5: It won't mean a thing. It means nothing, zero.
- 54:52Speaker 6: Okay.
- 54:53Speaker 4: What what will mean something is seeing Jerry and Jones
- 54:59Speaker 4: and Mason's Smith and guys like that play well down
- 55:03Speaker 4: the stretch.
- 55:04Speaker 5: That will mean something. That means a lot. And so
- 55:08Speaker 5: that's something I will want to see. But wins the
- 55:10Speaker 5: law if you if you.
- 55:12Speaker 4: Have Mason Smith get two sacks in a game and
- 55:15Speaker 4: dominate from his run play and see Jones getting an
- 55:17Speaker 4: interception and maybe even a pick six and they still
- 55:20Speaker 4: don't win the game. That matters more to me than
- 55:23Speaker 4: wins and losses, because this team's out, they're done, they're buried,
- 55:26Speaker 4: they're gone.
- 55:27Speaker 5: It's over and that, like we always say, Tony, there's
- 55:31Speaker 5: no carryover.
- 55:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.
- 55:35Speaker 5: So I think the city is checked out. I think
- 55:41Speaker 5: you feel it, they know it.
- 55:42Speaker 4: I get the sense from when I get tweets from
- 55:44Speaker 4: people on X they're checked out. And so it won't
- 55:48Speaker 4: matter if they run the table, it doesn't matter at all.
- 55:53Speaker 4: Will it save jobs?
- 55:54Speaker 5: That's the other part.
- 55:55Speaker 2: Well, that's my question.
- 55:58Speaker 6: That's where I'm going, Pete, does the assuming the best
- 56:05Speaker 6: you win the next four, you get to seven and ten,
- 56:09Speaker 6: because you what you are building for, whether it's finishing
- 56:14Speaker 6: strong or if there are changes, you're trying to bring
- 56:17Speaker 6: hope for next year.
- 56:19Speaker 2: What the offseason is is for the teams that don't
- 56:21Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl is hope for next year.
- 56:26Speaker 6: Now that hope can be developed by a deep playoff run,
- 56:31Speaker 6: losing a close game of the playoffs, whatever.
- 56:34Speaker 5: Making changes, Oh, hold on, so that can that.
- 56:37Speaker 2: Can develop hope? Great?
- 56:40Speaker 6: It can be a first year head coach with a
- 56:42Speaker 6: young quarterback that gets better throughout the year and finishes
- 56:46Speaker 6: strong because that builds hope for the fan base, or
- 56:53Speaker 6: if it's going really bad, making changes can build hope
- 56:58Speaker 6: for the fan base because you have to do something
- 57:01Speaker 6: to get people excited, yes, going into next year. And
- 57:04Speaker 6: my question is is there enough runway of winning the
- 57:07Speaker 6: next four after beating the Titans in Nashville to build
- 57:11Speaker 6: that hope for the fan base where they say.
- 57:14Speaker 2: Yep, we're in like this is this is the direction.
- 57:19Speaker 6: We believe we have an organization, a football team that
- 57:24Speaker 6: we can go buy tickets and be excited for and
- 57:27Speaker 6: spend all off season talking draft and free agency and
- 57:30Speaker 6: can't wait for OTAs and get towards camp because that's.
- 57:34Speaker 5: What you need.
- 57:35Speaker 2: Yep.
- 57:35Speaker 5: No answer that question is no. The fan base is
- 57:38Speaker 5: checked out. They're done, and you don't think.
- 57:40Speaker 2: You don't think four in a row, four more in
- 57:42Speaker 2: a row gets some checked out.
- 57:44Speaker 5: That schedule that's like playing a JV schedule. No, it
- 57:46Speaker 5: doesn't count. It's no, no, no, no, no, no. Win
- 57:51Speaker 5: them all and you're still seven to ten. You had
- 57:53Speaker 5: a disappointing season and the fans have no hope going
- 57:56Speaker 5: into next year.
- 57:57Speaker 2: Zero.
- 57:58Speaker 5: They want I'll be with you and you feel it,
- 58:01Speaker 5: you get it on X.
- 58:03Speaker 4: They want blood, they want changes, they want it now,
- 58:06Speaker 4: and if they're not gonna get now, they want it
- 58:08Speaker 4: after season. The hope you're talking about comes if there's
- 58:10Speaker 4: wholesale changes, that's what they want. Whether that's right or wrong,
- 58:14Speaker 4: or whether Sean Cohn's is going to do it or not,
- 58:16Speaker 4: that's what they want.
- 58:17Speaker 6: I mean, I think that. I mean what you're saying,
- 58:19Speaker 6: Pete is consistent what's on my ex feed right now,
- 58:24Speaker 6: and I'm wondering if it changes, if you can win
- 58:25Speaker 6: enough to change it this year. Well, what Pete is
- 58:29Speaker 6: describing is what I experience on my ex feed and
- 58:33Speaker 6: I and what I experience and what I experience in
- 58:35Speaker 6: the community when I'm out.
- 58:38Speaker 4: Yeah, so four wins against that schedule is not without
- 58:42Speaker 4: your starting quarterback is not going to change the way
- 58:44Speaker 4: anybody feels at all.
- 58:45Speaker 5: It's done. That, it's over.
- 58:47Speaker 4: That part of it is over. Whether they're going to
- 58:49Speaker 4: make a change or not isn't decided. But what is
- 58:52Speaker 4: decided the fan base is checked out on who's running
- 58:55Speaker 4: that team and who's coaching that team.
- 58:56Speaker 5: Right now. That's the bottom line. They are you know it,
- 58:59Speaker 5: we know what. I get it.
- 59:00Speaker 4: I get it every Sunday during the game. I'm sitting
- 59:02Speaker 4: there doing my work and I get I start getting
- 59:04Speaker 4: during the game, I start getting, you know, tweets and
- 59:06Speaker 4: stuff about hey Pete, this thing's done. It's terrible, it's awful.
- 59:09Speaker 4: It's awful. It's awful.
- 59:10Speaker 5: You get the same thing. They're checked out. The fans
- 59:13Speaker 5: are done.
- 59:13Speaker 4: You could talk to winning a little streak five game
- 59:16Speaker 4: win streak, oh four more and we can get the five.
- 59:18Speaker 5: They don't care. They don't care. They will not care
- 59:22Speaker 5: one bit about that.
- 59:24Speaker 6: What is so you look at the next four games
- 59:27Speaker 6: starting this week with the Jets, pee, Why are the
- 59:31Speaker 6: Jets so bad?
- 59:32Speaker 5: They have talent, Well, they made the coach and change.
- 59:36Speaker 4: Rogers have been hurt. He hadn't played well. The offensive
- 59:38Speaker 4: line has been awful. Defensively, they don't tackle. They've quit
- 59:41Speaker 4: in games. I mean, I can go on the laundry.
- 59:43Speaker 4: You should see some Jaguar's have bad tackling at times.
- 59:46Speaker 4: You see the tackling of the Jets. They'll tackle anybody.
- 59:50Speaker 2: Are they a dangerous team? Though?
- 59:51Speaker 6: Because of the talent they have coming in.
- 59:53Speaker 2: I mean it looks like they played halfway defense.
- 59:56Speaker 5: Their skilled players offer a problem, no question.
- 59:59Speaker 6: Because look like they've played halfway decent. I've watched the
- 1:00:01Speaker 6: tape yet, but just Adams, Garrett.
- 1:00:03Speaker 4: Wills, Jalen Ramsey had a rough go of it against
- 1:00:05Speaker 4: them on Sunday. He didn't play very well, but Rogers
- 1:00:08Speaker 4: hadn't been very good as the first three hundred yard
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: game he's had in almost like two years or two
- 1:00:12Speaker 4: and three and a half years. But yeah, I mean, yes,
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: they're a dangerous team. And to be honest with you,
- 1:00:18Speaker 4: I think they'll beat Jacksonville.
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: Interesting.
- 1:00:22Speaker 5: There you have it.
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- 1:01:22Speaker 2: come up with that Spider Jag. What was your assessment
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: of Cole Van Lannon future swing tackle?
- 1:01:27Speaker 6: Question Mark, Yeah, he's a swing tackle now, and I
- 1:01:32Speaker 6: think if you go into next year right now, look
- 1:01:34Speaker 6: at it. Anton's your right tackle, Walker's your left tackle,
- 1:01:39Speaker 6: and Cold Van Lennon is your swing I mean, that's
- 1:01:42Speaker 6: a that's a pretty good three tackle group right there,
- 1:01:46Speaker 6: if you look at the rest of the league.
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: Pete, Yeah, it is, particularly if Walker little continues to
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: play like he played right the last two games and
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: Anton Harrison still needs to get better.
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: But I surely has that.
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: Well, they all need to get better, Pete, I don't
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: think everyone's arrived.
- 1:01:58Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, but but Walk he admit.
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: I mean, Harrison, we thought he was going to go
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: to a different level this year and he hadn't gone there.
- 1:02:05Speaker 6: So yeah, I think Cole Van Lennon is a very
- 1:02:10Speaker 6: capable qualified and from what I saw yesterday, is the
- 1:02:15Speaker 6: perfect swing tackle.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: In this league.
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: Yeah, he battles, He battled. I give him that, and
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: and and Tony. So that takes him out of the
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: tackle market.
- 1:02:24Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it does. When you signed Walker Little,
- 1:02:25Speaker 6: it did took you out of the tackle marking.
- 1:02:27Speaker 5: You're out of the tackle market.
- 1:02:29Speaker 6: Well, which is you know, people were questioning and I
- 1:02:32Speaker 6: was one of them the timing of the Walker Little signing.
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: I didn't and I still argue you didn't have to
- 1:02:37Speaker 6: do it when you did it.
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: But based on the last best football since he got
- 1:02:41Speaker 5: the money, based on the last.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: Two games, you got a heck of a deal. Two
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: pretty good lines too, very quality players, quality pass rushers.
- 1:02:50Speaker 6: He did a very good job against and the week,
- 1:02:53Speaker 6: and that's not fair enough weakness. The strength of Walker
- 1:02:56Speaker 6: Little's game right now is his run blocking. He's a
- 1:02:58Speaker 6: good finisher, physical, old, strong guy, and his pass blocking
- 1:03:03Speaker 6: has been outstanding the last two weeks.
- 1:03:06Speaker 5: Yeah, he's kind of opposite of what Cam Robinson was outstanders.
- 1:03:10Speaker 5: It was better, better in pass protection than he was
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: in the run game.
- 1:03:13Speaker 6: But the way Walker's been pass walking last two weeks
- 1:03:16Speaker 6: very good.
- 1:03:17Speaker 5: He's good.
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: It's good, very good.
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: So yeah, which that takes it, Like I said last week,
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: I take you even whatever they're picking that takes them
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: out of the tackle market, and.
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: What that does then, because you need so the biggest
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: issue I have with offensive line.
- 1:03:32Speaker 6: Is you have all an old center, old right.
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: Guard who aren't playing great.
- 1:03:40Speaker 6: I thought Sheriff was okay, Okay, Yeah.
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: He's okay.
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: Horse has been bad the last not bad, but not
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: good the last four weeks.
- 1:03:48Speaker 6: And the bigger issue is I don't see one non
- 1:03:53Speaker 6: starter on this team stuck the interior that is a
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: starting caliber or has the potential to be a starting
- 1:04:02Speaker 6: caliber player in this league.
- 1:04:04Speaker 5: Nope, Nope.
- 1:04:06Speaker 6: They did with Cooper Hodges before he just completely trashed
- 1:04:10Speaker 6: his knee.
- 1:04:11Speaker 5: And you can't count on him.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, Pete.
- 1:04:16Speaker 6: So now, so that's the problem. You haven't developed guys here.
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: You haven't drafted and developed young offensivelignment. And that's so
- 1:04:26Speaker 6: you have to go build that in the draft. I'm
- 1:04:30Speaker 6: not saying you have to take it the first round,
- 1:04:33Speaker 6: but I still am in in the position rounds.
- 1:04:37Speaker 5: One through four.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: Unless there's some superstar.
- 1:04:42Speaker 6: That slides that you just say we have him, we
- 1:04:46Speaker 6: have him rated so much higher than we're drafting, and
- 1:04:50Speaker 6: there's not a corresponding big guy at that place, you
- 1:04:54Speaker 6: got to go big, and I would spend a lot
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: of my equity on the offensive line.
- 1:05:00Speaker 5: But you know it's funny, though, they like you.
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: Go to the two best offensive lines in the league
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: right now, the Eagles and the Lions. You would agree, right, Okay.
- 1:05:10Speaker 4: The right guard for the Eagles is a tackle reject
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: McKay Beckton. The right guard for the Lions was a
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: veteran free agent signed who was out there for anybody
- 1:05:26Speaker 4: who wanted him, Zeitler.
- 1:05:29Speaker 5: And yet they have the best offensive line in the league,
- 1:05:32Speaker 5: both of them.
- 1:05:33Speaker 6: Who's the who's the left guard for the Lions.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: What's his name?
- 1:05:38Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Glasgow plays the left guard when he's in there,
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: Graham Glasgow.
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: So but if you look at that Lions offensive line,
- 1:05:46Speaker 6: Pete right center, right tackle draft first round, first round
- 1:05:52Speaker 6: center draft left uh round, left tackle drafted, I don't
- 1:05:56Speaker 6: Glasgow is drafted, but he wasn't drafted by the Lions.
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: I don't believe.
- 1:06:00Speaker 5: Yeah, so so, but the five three of the five
- 1:06:04Speaker 5: hold on.
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: Okay, go to the to the Eagles right.
- 1:06:09Speaker 5: Tackle, first round pick, my first.
- 1:06:11Speaker 6: Round pick to take off your center drafted left guard
- 1:06:16Speaker 6: draft drafted left tackle, drafted, developed four of their guys starters.
- 1:06:21Speaker 6: And they have depth too, because when oh gosh, the
- 1:06:26Speaker 6: left tackles went out right, they've brought someone else in.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Didn't miss a beat.
- 1:06:33Speaker 6: No he's not.
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: They drafted Steam, who's a backup right guard who plays
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: right guard when the right guard's not in there.
- 1:06:38Speaker 6: That's exactly right. My point is you have to develop
- 1:06:41Speaker 6: big people. You have to develop those guys. That's why
- 1:06:45Speaker 6: every draft you should be drafting offensive alignment. Not at
- 1:06:48Speaker 6: the top, but you should have to draft them at
- 1:06:51Speaker 6: the top.
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: Though.
- 1:06:52Speaker 6: No, I'm saying not every draft, Pete.
- 1:06:53Speaker 5: I'm saying not every draft, but but if you need them,
- 1:06:56Speaker 5: you should draft if.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: You need them.
- 1:06:58Speaker 6: I'm saying, even if you have a strong I'm starting five,
- 1:07:00Speaker 6: you draft middle of the round to late in the
- 1:07:04Speaker 6: round big people and try.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: To develop them.
- 1:07:08Speaker 5: Yes, and you have to have and do a lot
- 1:07:11Speaker 5: of things, and you have to be.
- 1:07:12Speaker 6: Purposeful in how you develop them. You have to take
- 1:07:17Speaker 6: every moment that you are allowed according to the CBA
- 1:07:22Speaker 6: the Players Union, to use that time to develop them
- 1:07:27Speaker 6: because they're not going to get enough reps. And then
- 1:07:30Speaker 6: a lot of time you haven't practiced today so you
- 1:07:33Speaker 6: have to be very purposeful. And I'll give a great example.
- 1:07:37Speaker 6: You go watch the Philadelphia Eagles, who I think is
- 1:07:43Speaker 6: probably the best offensive line in football right now, and
- 1:07:47Speaker 6: before the game, anyone who's not playing practice squad backups
- 1:07:53Speaker 6: are all out there really early with the coach going
- 1:07:57Speaker 6: through drills, and then the starters come out and they
- 1:08:02Speaker 6: go through a full individual period.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: With the old line coach Bags Scotland.
- 1:08:10Speaker 6: Scotland, who's the heck of a coach with Bags and
- 1:08:13Speaker 6: everything going through technique Like I mean, I don't know
- 1:08:18Speaker 6: what the practices are like, but that's an indication that
- 1:08:21Speaker 6: they that's a guy who uses every second of every
- 1:08:23Speaker 6: day that he possibly can to develop his guys.
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: And so you have to development not one if.
- 1:08:34Speaker 6: You have offensive line. If you have good, strong offensive
- 1:08:40Speaker 6: line play, it covers a lot of sins. Yep, because
- 1:08:46Speaker 6: I'm gonna steal a quote from from John From Jim Harbaugh,
- 1:08:51Speaker 6: offensive line is the one position everyone else is dependent
- 1:08:54Speaker 6: on to do their job. The entire defenses dependent on
- 1:09:01Speaker 6: that group doing their job. That group is not dependent
- 1:09:06Speaker 6: on everyone else doing their job. They have to go
- 1:09:08Speaker 6: like their job is dependent on themselves. Receivers, backs, I.
- 1:09:13Speaker 5: Was there that day when he said it. I was
- 1:09:15Speaker 5: standing right next to him, and he.
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: Is dead on.
- 1:09:19Speaker 5: Yes, he is.
- 1:09:21Speaker 6: That there's not a more important thing you need to
- 1:09:23Speaker 6: get right, because if you get it right, it covers
- 1:09:27Speaker 6: a lot of issues after their part.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: The other side is the.
- 1:09:31Speaker 6: Defensive line, because if you can stop the run and
- 1:09:33Speaker 6: rush the passer with four guys, it covers a lot
- 1:09:36Speaker 6: of sins on defense.
- 1:09:38Speaker 4: But in looking at the both lines, Tony Mason Smith
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: gives them some hope there.
- 1:09:46Speaker 6: But let me ask you a question about Mason Smith
- 1:09:47Speaker 6: because I don't know this so this is not a
- 1:09:49Speaker 6: critique at all. Because he's a big body and he
- 1:09:52Speaker 6: is physical in the run game. He showed up on
- 1:09:54Speaker 6: tape this week he did some really nice things. Forget
- 1:09:57Speaker 6: about his early season struggles.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: Whatever they were.
- 1:10:00Speaker 6: There was ankle or just couldn't get on the field
- 1:10:02Speaker 6: because coaches decisions. Whatever that is, it doesn't matter. When
- 1:10:06Speaker 6: I watched the tape of Mason Smith today. Now he's
- 1:10:09Speaker 6: a rookie in the run game, he is impactful because
- 1:10:13Speaker 6: he's such a big physical body.
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: Right, I have not seen anything any suddenness.
- 1:10:20Speaker 6: In the past rush that makes me feel like now
- 1:10:25Speaker 6: he's a rookie, so he can develop where he's going
- 1:10:28Speaker 6: to be a dominating pass rusher from the three technique Pete.
- 1:10:33Speaker 4: I don't know if ever be a dominating three technique
- 1:10:36Speaker 4: pass rusher, but he could be a good one because
- 1:10:37Speaker 4: when you saw him before his injury at LSU ok
- 1:10:40Speaker 4: he pushed the pocket and he's you.
- 1:10:43Speaker 5: Know, then last year he came back and played.
- 1:10:46Speaker 4: It took him half a season to start looking like
- 1:10:49Speaker 4: even like he was before the injury, and now we're
- 1:10:52Speaker 4: a year removed from that exact spot. So I think
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: the best is you have to come with him. But
- 1:10:57Speaker 4: he's powerful. He takes on the double team, Yeah, hang
- 1:11:00Speaker 4: in there. He doesn't get collapse out of the double team,
- 1:11:03Speaker 4: and he sheds it a couple of times on Sunday,
- 1:11:06Speaker 4: and again it's not a great offensive line, but that's
- 1:11:08Speaker 4: a good sign going forward.
- 1:11:10Speaker 5: So you feel more encouraged watching him in the middle
- 1:11:14Speaker 5: of that line. Then you do the two veterans on
- 1:11:18Speaker 5: the middle of the offensive line.
- 1:11:20Speaker 6: Well, but people like I'm not even gonna I'm not
- 1:11:23Speaker 6: even gonna be critical of mitched in Brandon because I
- 1:11:26Speaker 6: think they've played good football this year at times, and
- 1:11:29Speaker 6: they've been they've never They've never been terrible. They've been solid,
- 1:11:32Speaker 6: they've been they've been okay, and at times I thought
- 1:11:35Speaker 6: they've played well.
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: I mean, I'm gonna give you the p I'm just
- 1:11:38Speaker 5: gonna be curious before you do that.
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: Let me finish this and come back with PFL.
- 1:11:42Speaker 6: My concern is they're both eleven year guys, and who
- 1:11:44Speaker 6: knows if they're they how much more football they want
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: to play, let alone can play. I mean, Brandon Sheriff
- 1:11:51Speaker 6: plays you some stuff that is unreal.
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: That is one tough dude.
- 1:11:56Speaker 6: But no matter how tough you are, father time catches up,
- 1:12:00Speaker 6: and especially when you're dealing with injuries.
- 1:12:02Speaker 5: Yeah, and he competes.
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you competes. Both people, they're both competitors,
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: are both pro.
- 1:12:11Speaker 5: They're strong enough anymore, Tony, I don't.
- 1:12:13Speaker 6: It's but at some point you get injuries on the
- 1:12:16Speaker 6: lower body. The legs just don't have the same juice
- 1:12:19Speaker 6: they once did. Yeah, and and so my concern is, Pete,
- 1:12:23Speaker 6: there's nothing behind them.
- 1:12:25Speaker 5: Well, here's the other part of that equation, Tony.
- 1:12:28Speaker 4: This group, this coaching staff likes offensive linemen who are
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: a little more athletic and a little lighter into behind
- 1:12:33Speaker 4: who can move.
- 1:12:36Speaker 6: Correct from what we see on the field.
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: Yes, okay, So if there's a change at coaching, what
- 1:12:46Speaker 4: does that do to your philosophy and your offensive line
- 1:12:49Speaker 4: depending on where you right. I mean that that's something
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: else to look at when you're building that offensive line.
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: For example, the Eagles like to move their guys like
- 1:13:00Speaker 4: they're big. They're big, but they're big, big moving guys.
- 1:13:04Speaker 5: I mean, that's a big The left tackle is a monster.
- 1:13:07Speaker 5: The right guard, he's a big man and he's played really.
- 1:13:11Speaker 6: Well by the way Michael becked them, is huge and
- 1:13:14Speaker 6: he looks and he's small. Mackay what I call Michael
- 1:13:17Speaker 6: McKayle Beckton Becton. That's what I said, Beckton, And.
- 1:13:23Speaker 5: I think you said that I messed up.
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: It's like the fourth one tonight. Well I messed up.
- 1:13:27Speaker 6: Mackay becked him beckt in beck then beck then.
- 1:13:35Speaker 5: He kept calling.
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: Like rect them Bectum, Becton.
- 1:13:44Speaker 6: And he looks small compared to Jordan. To the left tackle.
- 1:13:47Speaker 6: What's his last name, Malanna, It's.
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: We'll give him that, that's what his name is. Said
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: said like lad like Jordan makes him look small. That's
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: how big Jordan. My alett Is. I mean, it's like Atlanta,
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: it's been a tough He's got a couple more questions,
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: but hold on, I'm gonna go. Yeah, yeah, let's PFF.
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: Get a couple of questions, get a question, we'll get
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: the PFF. We got plenty of time in this show.
- 1:14:24Speaker 2: But okay, next question. Do we feel like Jorian Jones
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: has to play Nickel? He's clearly the second best corner,
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: has played very well season. Is he CB two next
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: year and we look for another Nickel? I don't know,
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: because we have seen him outside yet. I mean that's
- 1:14:40Speaker 2: you know, that's the coach is that.
- 1:14:42Speaker 6: But you also can have a scenario, and you see
- 1:14:44Speaker 6: this sometimes in the league where a guy plays outside
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: on first and second down and still can kick down
- 1:14:48Speaker 6: to Nickel if you have another outside corner at guys.
- 1:14:52Speaker 6: A lot of guys do that guys, And so I
- 1:14:55Speaker 6: don't think if the limit him, I think you want
- 1:14:56Speaker 6: to put him where he's most effective and where it
- 1:14:58Speaker 6: creates the biggest impact. And Nickels, you know, sixty five
- 1:15:02Speaker 6: the snaps nowadays, and you're if you're better have the on.
- 1:15:06Speaker 4: The field one hundred percent of the snaps. If he's
- 1:15:07Speaker 4: a true good outside corner and then play him in
- 1:15:10Speaker 4: the nickel.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: That's my point.
- 1:15:11Speaker 6: That's exactly what I'm saying, Pete, because if he's a
- 1:15:13Speaker 6: great blitzer, if he's good against a run, he's physical.
- 1:15:17Speaker 6: That's like that is Taylor made to play nickel and
- 1:15:21Speaker 6: not that he can't play outside early right, and then
- 1:15:24Speaker 6: kick down the nickel in sub situations.
- 1:15:27Speaker 4: But then with the current regime, he he's never going
- 1:15:29Speaker 4: to play one hundred percent of the snaps anyway, So
- 1:15:32Speaker 4: whole another issue.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: Next question at gt RG and seven to one. Congrats
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: Pete on Arizona State. Do you have any fan advice
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: you can give Tony for a Southern col comeback? Yeah,
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: the offensive line.
- 1:15:46Speaker 4: Yeah, get an offensive for the first time. I'm about
- 1:15:49Speaker 4: getting a defense Tony wants in.
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: Your life to hide. How about getting big people?
- 1:15:53Speaker 5: Yeah, how about that defense.
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: We're little, we're little, Yeah, not a big group.
- 1:15:58Speaker 6: You can't play in the big ten if you're little,
- 1:16:02Speaker 6: can't play in the SEC, if you're little anywhere.
- 1:16:05Speaker 2: If you're little, staying power, Pete, big behind you can
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: probably No, I don't think so. They don't. This is
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: the one and done. Look that quarterback's pretty good. Pete
- 1:16:15Speaker 2: that quarterbacks play.
- 1:16:17Speaker 4: He's a red shirted freshman, so he'll he'll be good.
- 1:16:19Speaker 4: But you know you mentioned staying power. How do you
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: compete with? Go look at the recruiting list, Georgia, every Alabama,
- 1:16:28Speaker 4: how do you compete with?
- 1:16:29Speaker 5: They can't compete with that.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: State has all kinds of money. Start paying up, Pete,
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: you're people now, Pete, you always wanted to do.
- 1:16:38Speaker 5: How much do you give usc of your money? Yeah,
- 1:16:43Speaker 5: that's what I give him.
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: And uh and so I just don't think you compete
- 1:16:47Speaker 4: with the southern schools and and and the big ten powers.
- 1:16:50Speaker 4: Ohio State, Oregon. We're okay, Oregon organ is the number
- 1:16:54Speaker 4: one team in the country. Right, Yeah, they were joking
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: the Pac ten and when Tony, when you were into
- 1:16:58Speaker 4: Pac ten, they weren't any good.
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: One year they were good. They won the Pack PA
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: with Rich.
- 1:17:04Speaker 5: Brooks, Right, was that Rich Brooks year?
- 1:17:05Speaker 4: But for most of their time that was got them
- 1:17:07Speaker 4: started on this thing, But most of their time they
- 1:17:09Speaker 4: were not.
- 1:17:10Speaker 5: Well, why are they good?
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: Now?
- 1:17:12Speaker 5: They got Nike money.
- 1:17:16Speaker 6: The state has money. Come on, Pete, get like that.
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: Come on, get your wallet.
- 1:17:23Speaker 5: They don't have that. If I gave him my money,
- 1:17:25Speaker 5: to believe me, they ain't got anybody.
- 1:17:27Speaker 4: You see what they're paying the quarterback to go to
- 1:17:28Speaker 4: Michigan Now, it's like ten million dollars.
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: Ridiculous has played it down.
- 1:17:33Speaker 4: But you know who can't pay it though, Well, Alabama
- 1:17:36Speaker 4: can pay whatever the hell they want to.
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's going to be. It's legal. They need
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: to change. That's itself. You were trying to do it
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: with stacks in a envelope for years, Pete.
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: I mean, well, think about this though. Okay, no slight
- 1:17:52Speaker 4: to Auburn. Okay, but over the years Auburn's had great, great,
- 1:17:57Speaker 4: great recruiting classes. Right have you been to Auburn being
- 1:18:01Speaker 4: compared it to like Tempe?
- 1:18:04Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?
- 1:18:05Speaker 6: I'd rather live in Tempe?
- 1:18:08Speaker 5: Where to Los Angeles?
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Auburn is the loveliest village of
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: the planes. Tempe is a different world. We're back in
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: a moment. We've got plenty ahead. I want to hear
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: in the PFF grade. We've got that we got and
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: we got two segments of around the league games and
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: on playoff picture coming up. Love it. It's Jaguars Happy
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- 1:18:38Speaker 3: You get asked a lot about your team and where
- 1:18:41Speaker 3: we are and our record.
- 1:18:42Speaker 4: And this and that.
- 1:18:43Speaker 5: But I mean, you guys see it when you watch
- 1:18:44Speaker 5: the game. Our guys they fight.
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: To the end.
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: They don't they don't quit.
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: They battle. Yesterday we were able to make the place
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: right at the end of the game. Defense stepped up
- 1:18:53Speaker 3: huge at the end to really you know that fourth
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: and two, you know, throw and then then the last
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: one at the end of the game. You know what
- 1:19:03Speaker 3: about the eight or nine yard line there, you know,
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: to to stop him on fourth down as well.
- 1:19:08Speaker 5: You know, those are all.
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: Plays and things that we keep talking about, and yesterday
- 1:19:13Speaker 3: we were able to finish that and finish the game,
- 1:19:15Speaker 3: and and that was really good to see.
- 1:19:19Speaker 2: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier today. Fulls press conference from
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: Monday at Jaguars dot com and Jaguars YouTube. I know
- 1:19:25Speaker 2: you'll be there soon, tell you check out what the
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: head coach had to say. Absolutely, Pete's probably already been
- 1:19:30Speaker 2: there today, so you can check it out as well.
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: We'll go around the league here in just a moment.
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: But we got to get the Pro Football Focus grades
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: you guys have been clamoring for.
- 1:19:37Speaker 6: Well, I'm not clamoring for Okay, I've been clamoring.
- 1:19:42Speaker 5: Who is who do you think give me the best
- 1:19:44Speaker 5: offensive lineman for.
- 1:19:46Speaker 6: The game Sunday?
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: Yeah? Walker Little correct?
- 1:19:52Speaker 5: Who is second?
- 1:19:58Speaker 2: Van Lamon?
- 1:20:00Speaker 5: Ezra was just barely.
- 1:20:01Speaker 6: I was going to say it was either Ezra or
- 1:20:03Speaker 6: Van Lannon.
- 1:20:04Speaker 5: And then Sheriff was fourth and Morse was That's.
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: How I would have rated him. That's how I would
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: have rated him, by the.
- 1:20:10Speaker 4: Way Morse's grades the last four weeks and this they grade.
- 1:20:14Speaker 4: You know, if you get his sixty something, you're decent.
- 1:20:17Speaker 4: Fifty one, forty eight, fifty one and forty five.
- 1:20:21Speaker 5: So something has happened. And I Toldally, I've been talking
- 1:20:23Speaker 5: about that for a while.
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: Where is he on the year, Pete? Do they have
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: like a yeah?
- 1:20:28Speaker 4: Grade like compared to his last year as great as
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: six points lower than it was last year.
- 1:20:35Speaker 5: When he was a Buffalo, So run blocking lower than
- 1:20:40Speaker 5: pass blocking for him.
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: Who's the highest rated on the season offensive line up
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: for the Jaguars?
- 1:20:46Speaker 5: Uh, I think it's little. He's got a sixty Yeah,
- 1:20:51Speaker 5: it's little. So, but now let's go to the defense.
- 1:20:58Speaker 2: This one.
- 1:20:58Speaker 4: I when I looked at it, I was a little smart.
- 1:21:00Speaker 4: Josh heines Allen number one.
- 1:21:02Speaker 6: That doesn't surprise me.
- 1:21:04Speaker 4: Cisco number two, that does Campbell number three, okay, Devin
- 1:21:10Speaker 4: Lloyd number four.
- 1:21:13Speaker 5: They loved, They love Devin Lloyd for some reason.
- 1:21:16Speaker 4: Monterrek Brown and then Devon Hamilton, keep going. Then A
- 1:21:22Speaker 4: Louis Jerry and Jones is tenth.
- 1:21:26Speaker 6: Where's Traymon Walker on that list?
- 1:21:29Speaker 5: Fourteenth? Wow? Man from the game and then from this
- 1:21:33Speaker 5: game overall? Oh no, from this game.
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: From this game? Wow?
- 1:21:38Speaker 5: Yeah. And Mason Smith is seventeenth. They rated him good
- 1:21:45Speaker 5: okay in the run defense, good in the run defense,
- 1:21:48Speaker 5: and okay in the past. But yeah, run defense was
- 1:21:52Speaker 5: better than pass rush, but not by much. Nothing great
- 1:21:54Speaker 5: either way.
- 1:21:55Speaker 6: How about on the year, who's the best defensive player?
- 1:21:59Speaker 5: I'd have to go, look, I think it's but I
- 1:22:02Speaker 5: mean I could do it. Hold on, that's not it.
- 1:22:05Speaker 4: It's not Sometimes they're grading like Cisco was okay yesterday,
- 1:22:10Speaker 4: I didn't think he was the third best defensive player
- 1:22:13Speaker 4: on the on the field, did you.
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: Uh No, no clarification, you know, no, I'm just saying
- 1:22:23Speaker 2: I'm trying to think through No.
- 1:22:24Speaker 6: I thought I thought Josh heinz Allen. I thought Foyer
- 1:22:30Speaker 6: played pretty well, I thought Devin Lloyd was good in.
- 1:22:33Speaker 5: The run game.
- 1:22:38Speaker 6: Jarion Jones, I thought was very good.
- 1:22:40Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:22:40Speaker 4: Their number one rated defender on the season is Josh
- 1:22:43Speaker 4: heines Allen. Number two is Devin Lloyd. That's surprising to me.
- 1:22:51Speaker 6: He's struggled, He's been in the run game, has been
- 1:22:53Speaker 6: pretty good this year.
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: Pete, he struggled.
- 1:22:55Speaker 6: He struggled in coverage.
- 1:22:57Speaker 4: Then then a Lua Kan, then Monterrek Brown and then
- 1:23:02Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker and believe it or not, in their rankings,
- 1:23:07Speaker 4: Eric Armstead is seventh. We have.
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: What is that?
- 1:23:14Speaker 5: The ranking for the guy who was the biggest robbery
- 1:23:17Speaker 5: of the year.
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: Is that what that is? We'll come back in a moment.
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: We'll do one big around the league segment and wrap
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- 1:24:03Speaker 2: Pete Briscoe Jaguars win. Uh, we'll go around the league
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: here in a moment, playoff picture all the games. But Pete,
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: what do you think of Bill Belichick talking to North Carolina.
- 1:24:16Speaker 4: You hear that he's trying to set his son up
- 1:24:20Speaker 4: like he make him the coach in waiting. You know,
- 1:24:23Speaker 4: the sons of the defensive coordinator at Washington. So I
- 1:24:25Speaker 4: think that has something to do with it.
- 1:24:28Speaker 5: Look, I don't know. I always thought he'd come back
- 1:24:31Speaker 5: to try and break Shoole's record. I don't think. I
- 1:24:33Speaker 5: don't know if this is something he'd want to do.
- 1:24:35Speaker 4: Really, when you look at it, every college coach he
- 1:24:38Speaker 4: here wants to get out of college and come to
- 1:24:40Speaker 4: the NFL because there's too much nil and transfer portal
- 1:24:42Speaker 4: and stuff going on right now.
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: The way I'm selling it today on McAfee's show, it
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: was interesting.
- 1:24:48Speaker 4: Make it like he make it like an NFL team. Yeah,
- 1:24:51Speaker 4: he eluded her Edwards when he was at Arizona State.
- 1:24:54Speaker 4: Remember Ray Anderson, they both came from the NFL. They're
- 1:24:58Speaker 4: going to make it like an NFL team didn't quite work.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, let's go around the NFL in the games
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: that happened this week. The Lions over the Packers on Thursday,
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: thirty four, thirty one Lions right away?
- 1:25:12Speaker 6: Great football game.
- 1:25:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:25:14Speaker 4: And by the way, the Packers have lost to the Eagles,
- 1:25:18Speaker 4: the Vikings, and the Lions twice by a total of
- 1:25:22Speaker 4: twenty points.
- 1:25:24Speaker 5: Do you think the three of the four best teams
- 1:25:26Speaker 5: in the league right, do you.
- 1:25:26Speaker 6: Think they're dangerous in the playoffs?
- 1:25:28Speaker 5: Peat?
- 1:25:28Speaker 2: Green Bay?
- 1:25:29Speaker 6: I do?
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: I do too.
- 1:25:30Speaker 9: I do.
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: The NFC playoff race of course, Lions in the number
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: one seed currently, Eagles, Seahawks, Bucks one through four.
- 1:25:42Speaker 5: By the way, this week the Packers play at Seattle.
- 1:25:45Speaker 4: That could be a rematch of what a game you'll
- 1:25:47Speaker 4: see in the first round of the post See that
- 1:25:49Speaker 4: could be it can end up playing again in the
- 1:25:50Speaker 4: postseason six to three.
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: Dolphins over the Jets thirty two to twenty six. The
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: final score of Vikings doubled up the Falcons forty two
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: twenty one.
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: Is is.
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: Her cousin a story man? Yeah? Donald, We's start with Darnald.
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: We'll get to cousins in the second, what about Darnald?
- 1:26:10Speaker 4: I mean five touchdown passes, playing really well, scrambling around,
- 1:26:15Speaker 4: making throws, keeping his head up, and and and I
- 1:26:18Speaker 4: said this all most of the season.
- 1:26:20Speaker 5: I've been saying it. When does he turn back into
- 1:26:22Speaker 5: Sam Donald? Well? Maybe he doesn't. Maybe maybe. Kevin O'Connell
- 1:26:26Speaker 5: is such a good coach that he's got this is
- 1:26:28Speaker 5: who he is. And if he is, do you re.
- 1:26:31Speaker 4: Sign Sam Donald for thirty million dollars thirty five million
- 1:26:33Speaker 4: dollars a year?
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: What about j J? What's his last name?
- 1:26:37Speaker 6: Macarthorthy McCarthy?
- 1:26:40Speaker 5: I know, I know? What do you do? Would you?
- 1:26:42Speaker 4: I mean, you're a USC guy. You've watched Sam Donald closely.
- 1:26:45Speaker 4: He's never played like this.
- 1:26:47Speaker 5: He never.
- 1:26:49Speaker 6: Now he's fighting really well. He did not play well
- 1:26:51Speaker 6: against US down, No, he did. So that's the one
- 1:26:55Speaker 6: time I've seen him live in person. I've seen a
- 1:26:57Speaker 6: couple of games and he's played outstanding. Of O'Connell's a
- 1:27:00Speaker 6: really good coach, really good coach. He's a good football
- 1:27:03Speaker 6: coach and a good guy. I know, Kevin, really good guy.
- 1:27:06Speaker 5: Kevin's good dude.
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: Is Kirk Cousin's done in Atlanta after this year? You
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: can't they got guaranteed money next year.
- 1:27:13Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:27:13Speaker 4: Well, here's the other part of that, though. People want
- 1:27:15Speaker 4: to bench him and play Pennix in the middle. You're
- 1:27:17Speaker 4: in the middle of a run for the playoffs.
- 1:27:19Speaker 5: You're gonna put a kid in, right.
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: It's ugly, but they're in it.
- 1:27:23Speaker 6: Yeah, you're one Tampa, they're one game out of the
- 1:27:26Speaker 6: first place.
- 1:27:27Speaker 4: Well, Tampa Bay is a team nobody wants in the playoffs.
- 1:27:30Speaker 4: By the way, nobody.
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: Saints over the Giants who stink fourteen eleven. The Eagles
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: beat the Panthers twenty two to sixteen. It was closer
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: than the experts thought. Steelers see this, you know what.
- 1:27:43Speaker 5: By the way, JP, the Giants did the right thing.
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: They got the message. The guy called down on the
- 1:27:47Speaker 5: walkie talkie, Hey, hey, don't make the field goal, and
- 1:27:50Speaker 5: the guy kicked it right in happened?
- 1:27:52Speaker 4: Yeah, oh out over and out miss it, kick it
- 1:27:56Speaker 4: into the line, over and out.
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: Eagles over the Panthers. Steelers beat the Browns twenty seven
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: to fourteen, and the Bucks over the Raiders. As you mentioned,
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: Pete Buccaneers playing well, Seahawks over the Cardinals thirty to eighteen,
- 1:28:11Speaker 2: rams and over the Bills. What happened to scoring forty
- 1:28:14Speaker 2: two and losing forty four to forty two finals. Crazy Rams.
- 1:28:18Speaker 5: Yeah it was Josh Allen was unreal.
- 1:28:21Speaker 4: But they had a punt blocked and for a touchdown
- 1:28:24Speaker 4: and that kind of got him behind and then they rallied.
- 1:28:27Speaker 5: And then late in that game, they had a weird situation.
- 1:28:31Speaker 4: It would have been fourth and seven and they would
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: have been like long field goal up three, and he
- 1:28:37Speaker 4: decided to take the penalty and move him back ten yards,
- 1:28:41Speaker 4: and then they got twelve yards, so it was fourth
- 1:28:43Speaker 4: and five and they went for it and got it,
- 1:28:47Speaker 4: and kind of the Rams late in that game, I
- 1:28:50Speaker 4: think I would have kept him at the fourth and
- 1:28:52Speaker 4: seven and said, you make a fifty seven yard field
- 1:28:54Speaker 4: goal whatever it was to go up six. I'm gonna
- 1:28:57Speaker 4: take my chances with Josh Allen, you know what I mean,
- 1:28:59Speaker 4: I wouldn't have taken that.
- 1:29:00Speaker 6: That'll do great for Yeah, two good football teams to
- 1:29:03Speaker 6: give them Sean McVay credit. I mean, they play hard
- 1:29:08Speaker 6: and they had a bunch of injuries Pete early where
- 1:29:10Speaker 6: they had none of their skill guys.
- 1:29:13Speaker 5: And or their line or their offensive line.
- 1:29:15Speaker 4: They were they the four of the five offensive lineman
- 1:29:18Speaker 4: never played together the whole year, And what did.
- 1:29:21Speaker 6: The puka naka?
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: Hey you got a run?
- 1:29:23Speaker 6: Yeah, that dude is unreal.
- 1:29:26Speaker 5: How about this too. I looked at it today.
- 1:29:28Speaker 4: They had six rookies play thirteen or more snaps and
- 1:29:33Speaker 4: five of them played thirty five or more snaps on defense.
- 1:29:37Speaker 5: Just on defense.
- 1:29:38Speaker 6: That's that's crazy, Like, how does the whole league miss
- 1:29:45Speaker 6: on Pukaku? When are you going like the fourth or
- 1:29:47Speaker 6: fifth round peat?
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And he's one of the best receivers in
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: football now.
- 1:29:53Speaker 5: He's fantastic.
- 1:29:55Speaker 6: And his ability to run after the catch is like he's.
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: Like a running back.
- 1:29:59Speaker 5: Thought he was. I think people thought it because.
- 1:30:01Speaker 4: He didn't time very well, so they didn't think he
- 1:30:04Speaker 4: played fast enough. And the reality is he plays faster
- 1:30:06Speaker 4: than his forty times.
- 1:30:07Speaker 2: Yeah he does forty nine. Ers beat the Bears thirty
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: eight to thirteen, and the wild win last night. Chiefs
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: over the Chargers nineteen seventeen Fueld goal bangs off the left,
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: up right and end from Matthew Wright jag zero by
- 1:30:23Speaker 2: the way.
- 1:30:24Speaker 6: And the Chiefs just keep on winning close games, and
- 1:30:28Speaker 6: they win in the craziest way way.
- 1:30:30Speaker 5: And nothing matters, and none of it matter. Everybody keeps saying, well,
- 1:30:33Speaker 5: they don't look good winning.
- 1:30:34Speaker 4: That means that they're gonna have home field advantage of playoffs,
- 1:30:37Speaker 4: and they'll need to win two games in narrowhead to
- 1:30:39Speaker 4: go to the super Bowl.
- 1:30:40Speaker 6: Here and here's the thing, Pete, when it counts, Mahomes
- 1:30:45Speaker 6: makes a play that last play and he gets the
- 1:30:47Speaker 6: first down due everything's falling apart, he makes a free
- 1:30:51Speaker 6: rusher just w and then acts like he's gonna run
- 1:30:55Speaker 6: in the last second by Travis Kelcey for the first down.
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: It's not real. The team the last year, very good team,
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: very good team.
- 1:31:02Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Look, don't worry about the Chiefs. Everybody wh
- 1:31:05Speaker 4: says they play close games, they say it.
- 1:31:07Speaker 5: It's good. All they want to do is get to
- 1:31:09Speaker 5: the playoffs. It's all about the playoffs, sim it always is.
- 1:31:12Speaker 2: You think the Steelers have it off. They got a
- 1:31:13Speaker 2: tough schedule coming up, but do they have the States by.
- 1:31:16Speaker 4: The Eagles this week in the Battle of Philadelphia Pennsylvania.
- 1:31:19Speaker 4: That's gonna be a tough one. But it's weird because
- 1:31:23Speaker 4: this Steelers team doesn't run the ball like you think
- 1:31:25Speaker 4: they normally run it.
- 1:31:27Speaker 5: So I don't know if they can be the Steelers
- 1:31:29Speaker 5: that you expect them to be when it's time to
- 1:31:30Speaker 5: do that. I just don't.
- 1:31:33Speaker 2: They'll play the Chiefs in two weeks Christmas Day.
- 1:31:36Speaker 5: Correct, they got a tough schedule.
- 1:31:38Speaker 4: Their schedule is tough the raven But look, everybody talks
- 1:31:41Speaker 4: about the threats to the to the Chiefs. Buffalo lost
- 1:31:45Speaker 4: at at you know, and the Buffalo is a good team,
- 1:31:47Speaker 4: but they lost to the Rams. Now they got to
- 1:31:49Speaker 4: go play the Lions this week. The Steelers haven't looked
- 1:31:51Speaker 4: great in their wins, and they have a tough schedule.
- 1:31:53Speaker 4: The Texans certainly don't look good. They haven't looked good
- 1:31:56Speaker 4: all year. The Ravens have five losses and they're coming
- 1:31:59Speaker 4: off a game again Eagles where they didn't nothing on offense.
- 1:32:02Speaker 4: The Chargers now have five losses. The Broncos, you have
- 1:32:04Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback. Where's the real threat to them and
- 1:32:07Speaker 4: the other than the Bills. If they can get their
- 1:32:09Speaker 4: defense playing better, that where's the threat. I wanted to
- 1:32:13Speaker 4: say one quick thing. Jpalon Chase On In the last
- 1:32:17Speaker 4: two weeks, he started to make plays for the Raiders.
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: It's amazing, is he really yes? Yeah? Yes? How many
- 1:32:25Speaker 2: sacks do you have oh man, I.
- 1:32:27Speaker 5: Think he had one in each of the past two weeks.
- 1:32:29Speaker 4: But he also had a great interception where he tipped
- 1:32:32Speaker 4: it to himself and made a great play.
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, last week he had a sack and a half.
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: This week a half a sack, he had an interception.
- 1:32:39Speaker 2: This week he's tackle for loss. The week before three
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: quarterback hits. So yeah, he's he's kind of turned it on.
- 1:32:47Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know what, Taxville didn't need another pass rusher.
- 1:32:51Speaker 2: But in fairness, come on, Pete, I mean he did
- 1:32:53Speaker 2: nothing playing them right.
- 1:32:55Speaker 5: Maybe they weren't playing them the right way.
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: Then that's fair.
- 1:33:01Speaker 5: So with it, because everybody leaves and gets better.
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: You might want to take a long look at that.
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: It's it's Josh Oliver.
- 1:33:10Speaker 5: Oliver, Quincy Williams.
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: There's a couple of you probably should take a long
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: look at that, a long look at that. We can
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: do a whole another show on that.
- 1:33:20Speaker 6: Ben Bart starting take a whole look at that.
- 1:33:24Speaker 2: What uh, Pete?
- 1:33:26Speaker 6: So because we're playing the Raiders in two weeks, Desmond
- 1:33:30Speaker 6: Ritter Riders, he has a bone bruise.
- 1:33:35Speaker 2: Who Desmond does.
- 1:33:39Speaker 5: Play this week?
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: He got taken off on the cart, didn't he with
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: an air cast.
- 1:33:43Speaker 5: Yeah, he said he's gonna try and I just read it.
- 1:33:45Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nothing, nothing torn or anything. Why did they
- 1:33:49Speaker 2: put an air cast on? Usually the air cast means
- 1:33:51Speaker 2: like everything's gone.
- 1:33:53Speaker 5: It was a late hit too, by the way.
- 1:33:56Speaker 6: So he's going to try to play this week?
- 1:33:59Speaker 2: Is that's what it says? Has desben rhetor any good pete?
- 1:34:07Speaker 3: No?
- 1:34:08Speaker 2: M is Antonio?
- 1:34:11Speaker 5: Uh?
- 1:34:11Speaker 6: Antonio appears?
- 1:34:13Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:34:14Speaker 2: Is it?
- 1:34:15Speaker 6: Is it one and done for him?
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:34:17Speaker 4: Because Tom Brady's gonna go hire somebody he wants when
- 1:34:19Speaker 4: he gets in there. But it looks like the word
- 1:34:22Speaker 4: is going to be one and done for Tom Brady
- 1:34:23Speaker 4: in the booth and he's going to go be the
- 1:34:25Speaker 4: guy with the Raiders.
- 1:34:28Speaker 2: Hmm. But then, I mean.
- 1:34:34Speaker 6: The Raiders have a bunch of coaches on their payroll.
- 1:34:37Speaker 6: Josh McDaniels, Antonio Peers. I mean they're paid a lot
- 1:34:41Speaker 6: of guys not in the building.
- 1:34:45Speaker 5: Pretty amazing, goes. That's what happens when your your team
- 1:34:48Speaker 5: is bad.
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: Monday Night Football, Joe Burrow in the four and eight
- 1:34:53Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, clinging to a slim chance at an AFC
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: playoff berth, They'll head to Dallas to face the Cowboys,
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: who've won backed to games. They're five and seven. They'll
- 1:35:02Speaker 2: look to continue a late season Serge, Oh you got it,
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: Jerry's world. I'm going.
- 1:35:08Speaker 6: I'm going to the Bengals. They can't stop anybody, But
- 1:35:10Speaker 6: I don't think the Cowboys have a good enough offense
- 1:35:12Speaker 6: take advantage of it. And Joe Burrow right now is
- 1:35:16Speaker 6: on Fuego and that offense is the number two offense.
- 1:35:19Speaker 2: Oh you just mixed English and Spanish there, Yeah, he say,
- 1:35:25Speaker 2: on Flago on fire.
- 1:35:29Speaker 4: I'm going with the Cowboy. I think that I think
- 1:35:31Speaker 4: it's a close game. Begs probably win.
- 1:35:34Speaker 6: But it's gonna second best offense in the league anybody.
- 1:35:37Speaker 5: But they're giving up you know what.
- 1:35:38Speaker 4: The Bengals are giving up like thirteen yards for completion
- 1:35:41Speaker 4: that they in the last three games.
- 1:35:43Speaker 5: It can't stop in.
- 1:35:43Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Dallas the offense can't score Pete.
- 1:35:47Speaker 5: They But here's the other thing Cowboys get. This might
- 1:35:50Speaker 5: be the first game they've had all three corners play
- 1:35:51Speaker 5: together all year, Land, Diggs and Lewis.
- 1:35:57Speaker 2: That matters, all right, you got the Cowboys that got
- 1:35:59Speaker 2: the Bengal.
- 1:36:00Speaker 6: We'll find out next week who was right.
- 1:36:02Speaker 5: Yeah, you got it.
- 1:36:03Speaker 2: There's only one team on Fuego apparently, is that better?
- 1:36:08Speaker 4: Like, you know, don't we have a local butcher around
- 1:36:11Speaker 4: because he just butcher. We can make it the annual segment,
- 1:36:13Speaker 4: the Butcher segment of the week. We could get his sponsor.
- 1:36:16Speaker 2: Hey, listen, First of all, I bet I've been out.
- 1:36:19Speaker 6: I've been outstanding this year.
- 1:36:20Speaker 2: It was a bad show.
- 1:36:21Speaker 5: I own it.
- 1:36:22Speaker 2: It was bad to day. I own it. He's self scouting.
- 1:36:25Speaker 6: I'm saying, but I've been I've been rock solid this year. Today,
- 1:36:29Speaker 6: I think it was the golf got me all out
- 1:36:31Speaker 6: of whack I was.
- 1:36:31Speaker 2: I'm tired. Damn Caddy Caddy. He gave me a bad read, Pete,
- 1:36:36Speaker 2: the caddy gave me a bad read on seventeen.
- 1:36:38Speaker 5: Me calling you out for the caddy on seventeen it
- 1:36:41Speaker 5: got you all. I'm rattled.
- 1:36:42Speaker 2: It's bad show. I apologize to every person.
- 1:36:44Speaker 6: And there was a lot of them whose name whose
- 1:36:47Speaker 6: names I mispronounced today, So please don't don't worry.
- 1:36:50Speaker 5: The whole city's checked out. I just got plenty of
- 1:36:53Speaker 5: plenty of people telling me.
- 1:36:54Speaker 2: That thanks Pete, Pete Brisco, Tony Boselli. I'm J P. Shaddick.
- 1:36:58Speaker 2: And thanks to David cho Oh, Brent Reever, Joe Fortunato,
- 1:37:02Speaker 2: our entire crew, William P's Brook Coffee, Kate wake Manny
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