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Community Hour LIVE Replay (April 21st, 2025) · Beyond Labels Premium

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so we already have um Ethan, do you want to go ahead please with your question or comment?
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_03: Whoops.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um so um I've got two questions.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_02: I hope the first one's kind of easy for you to answer.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_02: So I was gonna ask a couple.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't want to gross anybody out, but I have this warp on my finger.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_02: I was wondering like what I could do.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: That's just an answer.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_02: Get rid of that.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think we get anything in here for it.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh good.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, there's a lot of feedback.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: So um anyway, I was wondering what to do for that.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_02: I've actually tried some essential oils on it, but maybe I didn't do them for long enough or like the right concentrations or something.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then like I had another like more complex question that I was wanting to see if you could help me with.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I've been trying to figure out something that's like wrong with me um as far as um or a condition, however I'm supposed to speak about it in a positive manner.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but like I have like really low blood counts, like white blood cell and red blood cell and stuff.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um not really low, but like on the low end of normal.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I'm wondering if maybe it was like some toxins in my system that are left over from when I like lost because I was I was 360 pounds in high school, um, and then I dropped to like 220 in like four years.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm wondering if like that toxic load like has still kind of been in my system over these past however many years.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's probably like I guess 10 years at this point.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh no more than that.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, about 10 years.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um I was just kind of wondering if there's any like low-hanging fruit I could do, maybe to like bind the toxins or maybe try to detox or something, just in case that's what it is.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I've done like several things already, um, but I'm just trying to figure out if there's any other like things that could possibly linger.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: But if that's like a more complex question, I'm mostly like the wart thing I'm interested in because I want to get a dairy cow, and like that's gonna be like right where my milking is, is like right there.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_03: So oh, yeah.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, what essential oils have you tried for the warts?
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think I've tried like I kind of tried like a blend because I got on the internet and it was like here's like five different ones that are supposed to work, and I was just like, well, try them, but I don't I don't I think I've tried like tea tree, eucalyptus, I think I've even tried frankincense, but I don't know if I did them for long enough or like consistently enough.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay, so uh here's uh just a few suggestions, and usually what I like to do with the natural remedies is I pair different ones together.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't usually just do one thing, and I use my intuition to ask my body in that moment what it wants.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so which of these combinations it wants, and that can change actually like from morning till evening.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_03: So I ask my body each time.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I do use a toolbox, um, like I create a toolbox for myself of different remedies, and then I go through and ask my body what it wants.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_03: So for warts, for example, one thing that you can do is you can use raw garlic.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_03: So if you take a fresh clove of garlic and you crush it up and you apply it to the wart, and you would cover it with like a bandage overnight, and you you're gonna you would repeat that daily as long as the body wanted it.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_03: And one reason why that works is because um garlic contains alicin, um, which is you know an antimicrobial.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um another thing you can do is you can use apple cider vinegar.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you can you can either put your finger, like if it's on your finger, for example, you can put it directly in, like a little shot glass of apple cider vinegar.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but you can also soak the vinegar like on a cotton ball.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I would use organic cotton balls, obviously.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_03: And then um you could actually put that on the wart and bandage it.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you could do that overnight if you wanted to alternate what that with the garlic, or if you, you know, if your body wanted to break from the garlic, but you can also do that during the day.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um sometimes applying tea tree oil directly, so not diluting it amongst other oils, but um putting it it, the teacher oil individually on the wart can actually help.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_03: But you would need to do it like several times a day, each day.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um one thing that actually I found interesting in terms of um working with warts is banana peels of all things.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: So if you um if you peel a banana, like a ripe banana, and you rub the wart on the inside of it, and then you can tape a piece, you could take a piece of it and put on the wart and then you know, tape it onto it.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_03: There's enzymes and different antioxidants inside that peel that it can actually help um break down the the wart itself.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_03: So that's kind of an interesting one.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_03: So, and that would probably be one that I would do during the day.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like I would try for my body, it's saying that it would rather have things like the garlic, the apple cine and vinegar, tea tree, but the banana peel, it's something that's not gonna really smell.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I mean, if anything is a sweet smell, you could just put that on during the day.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_03: Um, some some other things that you can use would be like um a castor oil with baking soda.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you can mix it into a paste and cover it, you know, put it on the warrant, cover it with a bandage.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_03: Some people have great success with aloe vera.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so and also always boosting your own natural um immunity.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_03: So vitamin C could help, elderberry syrup, reducing stress, right?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_03: Because stress is usually what triggers these types of um events from to happen.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_03: So you want to work on the inside as well as the outside uh simultaneously.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_03: But that's just some um, you know, initial did any of those resonate with you as I was saying them out loud?
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean, I'm definitely more interested in like the garlic and apple cider, vinegar, banana peel kind of stuff.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I really think I I was doing it like twice a day, like the essential oil stuff, and it didn't seem like it was doing anything.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'm definitely more interested in the other stuff.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, great.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_03: And then your to your second question, yeah, low blood count um it can definitely um be associated with toxins.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_03: So this is this goes along the lines of what Joel and I were talking about.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_03: The you know, it would probably be a good idea for us to host an episode where we walk through the different steps, like the roadmap, to actually so give you a roadmap of what it looks like to actually reverse any of these type of conditions.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_03: So, Joel, let's put that on our agenda.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_03: We'll definitely get that one done next time we record.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but there are things like like heavy metals.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_03: If you're exposed to heavy metals, that can cause um, you know, the blood low low blood counts.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_03: If you have chronic inflammation occurring in your body, it can actually downregulate your detox pathways.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_03: And so you won't be as efficient at detoxing.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so in other words, to say that if you have chronic inflammation, when the when your body's exposed to heavy metals, you they can actually hold on to it.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um, instead of because the body's very resilient, right?
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_03: So if the body's working the way that God designed it to, in its optimal health, its optimal state, um these environmental um factors won't negatively affect it chronically.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_03: But when it's bogged down by, as you now know, the root cause of stress, emotional imbalance, spiritual imbalance, mental imbalance, then it will tend to hold on to these things.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_03: And it's one indicator that the bottom is the body is in dysregulation.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_03: So heavy medicals can do that, pesticides, herbicides can do that, mycotoxins can actually cause low blood count.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and then some antibiotics, um anti-inflammatory drugs can cause low blood count.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_03: So you I would go through those um as starting points to see if you might have a history of those.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_03: Um and then the other ones to look for are going to be like certain nutrient deficiencies.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um and you know, especially like B vitamin deficiency, um, iron, a protein deficiency.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um Yeah.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: I've so the doctors have done all kinds of testing, like blood testing stuff, and they found nothing.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like I had a bone marrow biopsy too, because they thought it was cancer at one point.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what else could it be?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: But it it's not that either.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um my diet's pretty good for the most part.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess there's definitely things that maybe I could be lacking potentially.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but as far as that goes, so like I'm kind of always just drawn back to this like huge weight loss that I had, you know, and like I had a very, very terrible diet growing up.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_02: And so like that's kind of where I'm leaning.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because we've moved a couple times in between, like when I've had those, and it's uh so I don't think it's like mold or anything like that.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like we built our house like pretty clean, like formaldehyde-free as much as we could, and you know, formaldehyde-free pain, all like all that kind of stuff.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: So um I'm just wondering if it's something from my history that's not been detoxed like I should.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_03: So and what do you think preempted the weight loss, the massive weight loss?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I wanted to lose weight because like I don't like I stepped on a scale like in the doctor's office when I was 18 and it couldn't weigh me.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why I always say 360 because it's like the maximum.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: And so like that just like set me in emotion of wanting to actually lose weight.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I didn't do it very well at the time.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean it was basically like a starvation more than anything, and like even what I was eating wasn't like nutrient dense.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_02: So um it's probably only been the past two or three years where I've been like really nutrient dense stuff, but it they haven't improved, like it's always hovered around like that low end of normal.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um at least ever since 2017 when I had my first test that I can point back to.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_03: So have you um have you done a test for heavy metals?
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_02: Nobody's done a test for heavy metals on it yet, yeah.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so if you want, um I can even post it in Discord or you can email me and I can share what heavy metal tests um I use.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_03: So which one I use, which one I use for my family, and which one I um actually like.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't have any financial ties to it.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just the one that I think um, you know, has uh has good validity and it it's repeatable.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_03: So if you want, I can share that one because there's lots of different types of tests, and people often go down this rabbit hole not knowing which tests to do, and we waste a lot of money um on tests a lot of times.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_03: So if you want, I can share that with you if you want to do that that route.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I can also share with you the the tests I used to determine that I had nutrient deficiencies because the Western test um repeatedly showed up as me having zero deficiencies, nutrient deficiencies.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: But um, as we know, that that was not accurate, snapshot in time.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I used the functional test.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_03: So if you're interested, I can also share that one with you to see if you have some underlying nutrient um deficiency that could be contributing um, you know, to the condition that you're describing.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but as you have already indicated, in you explaining to me what brought this on, there's an emotional component here.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_03: So I think let's look at the physical, you know, that are causing this, but know that there's a root here of this emotional feeling of of lack, of inadequacy.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_03: And then I think that's if it was me, like if you were one of my clients, I would say, let's get you going on the physical level, but let's also make sure that we address um this emotional root cause that you you have identified yourself already um using your own intuition.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_03: So I think that's fantastic.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um somebody, I just looked down and somebody said, Um, this is uh I believe it's cremona.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry if I'm getting that wrong, but she's saying to Ethan, um, my daughter had many planters and warts.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_03: Once she started doing tinctures of dewormers, black walnut, warmwood, and clove, the 20 warts on her feet left, warms parasites, steal lots of energy too.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yes.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: And that's why I was saying that if this is a holistic approach to like a wart is not, to me, a wart is not just on the finger.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, sorry, I'm having to admit people to the room.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I keep looking over here and push admit.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so it's not this localized phenomena that occurs on the finger.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: Same with like fungus on nails.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_03: People will often ask me, how do I get rid of this fungus on my fingernail?
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's a it's a manifestation of what's happening systemically.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_03: So um, to her point, like uh to Cremona's point, I absolutely agree.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_03: It means there's something going on um systemically in the body, and it could be um an imbalance of the microbiome, which is what she's pointing out here.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so all the things that we look for, we're trying to you know rebalance the body and the mind and the spirit.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_03: Ethan, did that answer your question?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep, that's that was good.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm on the Discord, so um.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, that sounds great.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, um, let me go over to Kim.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_03: Kim Gentry.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_03: Hi, good morning.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_05: Or no, sorry, afternoon.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um so uh yeah, lots of different interesting layers there.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Ethan, I definitely think if you get on the Discord, I recently discovered it, so I've been chatting away there.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_05: Um But um I it's I don't want to get into uh it's it's it's one of those cans worms, worms of cans, uh, and it's the grains.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um the last uh podcast with the the new uh or proposed pyramid um was definitely an interesting one.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_05: Um definitely believe more protein.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_05: Um struggling with the low carbs from a standpoint of uh I know more people are getting on the bandwagon for fresh milk flour.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_05: I am, I have been doing it for a year for my family, and I still feel like everybody is still anti-grain or get off the breads.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_05: And I just have a hard time.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_05: Uh it's like I'm very resistant to that because in uh Dr.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_05: Cena, I don't know if you're familiar with Sue Becker.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um but so I mean, she's got thousands of testimonies of how much the grains have helped um heal um chronic diseases or malnutrition and other issues.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_05: So for me, I just I feel like everybody's always slamming the bread.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_05: And if I'm buying store-bought bread with dead flour, absolutely.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_05: I I've stopped, I cut that out a while ago.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_05: But if it's if if you have the capability of milling your own grains um and and and baking your own goods, I I strongly encourage it.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_05: It doesn't mean that you don't have gut health issues, but so again, I just from that episode, and then just I know that you are um not anti-grain, but I know you prefer less for yourself based on your own history.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_05: And I just kind of wanted to pick that scab a little bit and and talk about fresh milled grains and fresh mill or fresh milled flour and what your thoughts are on that.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: Kim, this is an excellent question, and we receive this one a lot.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_03: And so Joel and I actually have just recorded a podcast, what was that, last week or a couple weeks ago, Joel, uh, with Dr.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: Peter Osborne.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: And we asked all these questions that people have been bringing to us.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: I said, you know, why don't we, you guys have heard me talk about it, why don't we bring somebody else in who's an expert on gluten?
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: So we brought him in, and I I actually, for the first 30 minutes of that podcast, which was supposed to be about mycotoxins, we asked him all these hard questions.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_03: And um, and I think he did a really good job of answering these.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: I'm excited for the community to hear them.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: Um you know, both Dr.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: Osborne and I um we're not against grains, you know, as you as you pointed out, Kim.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not against like anything, right?
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_03: Because everybody gets to pick what they want to eat.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, we we both are sharing what we have experienced, what what has worked with clients, what hasn't worked with clients, and what we know from the literature.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I think there's a lot of different caveats.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_03: I think this is a very, very touchy topic, which is why we wanted to bring in a third person.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um but I think that I don't think anybody at this point would question the role of glyphosate and the role of the industrial food supply in making um grains kind of more toxic to us.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot, is anybody else here in the static?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_03: There's static.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, somebody's got their their mic not on mute.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: I just muted somebody because yeah, I because I feel like I'm having to scream over people.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I think, I mean, and that's well established too in the scientific literature.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_03: And Joel, feel free to jump in at any point here.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I don't even see Kim anymore.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: Are you still there?
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, there you are.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: I'm still here.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_03: Shuffled.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I think that's well established in the scientific literature that um the connection with glyphosate and zonnulin, for example, um, and that you know, milling, there's oxidation and there's nutrient losses and whatnot, and all that's established, mycotoxin uh problems with the way that the grains are stored, like all of this is is well established.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um the interesting uh aspect is that there were celiac disease, for example, in ancient times.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: So it it so this is not a it's I think they're somewhere in the middle, is what I'm trying to say.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm not against grains, um, but we do know that some people seem to have this predisposition.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: And we've seen it back since ancient times.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_03: There's records of it.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: So there's something that happens in some people where they're not able to either digest or absorb the, you know, the compounds, and particularly it seems to be the gluten.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we do know that that's how we got the the gluten label was going back to the war of starvation, right?
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: When the children who were starved during that time period, they healed um from celiac disease by removing what we now term those gluten-containing foods, which is inaccurate, of course.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_03: But we see this phenomena that when we take it away for some people, they do heal.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not, like I said, it's not just a modern phenomenon.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: It definitely has escalated in modern times, in the way that we grow our food and manufacture the food, process it, store it, all that stuff.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: So I think it's a it comes down again to individuality that it's we can't make these blanket statements that nobody should ever be eating grain.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I mean, I would not state that about anything.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: Just like I would never state that um a vegetarian diet can't work to heal somebody.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: We know cases in which it does, right?
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: I think everybody's so individualized.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: And as I hope we've been laying out on our program, that um it's the body, the mind, and the spirit, it it's all connected.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: And so if somebody believes this is the placebo and the nocebo effect, if someone believes the grains are bad, it's gonna probably hurt their bodies.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_03: Someone believes, um, and we know Sue Becker.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_03: We featured Sue Becker in our book, in our Beyond Labels book.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, she was in the chapter on um, if you're gonna eat grains, this is how we would eat grains.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: So she contributed to our book.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_03: We're friends.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I'm very well versed with her.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: I think she's a wonderful person.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_03: So um, and and Sue and I don't we had good conversations, you know, and we both see the we both feel that people are individuals and what works for one may not work for another.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: So if somebody believes, if someone reads the testimonies um on her site and they listen to her and they believe it's gonna heal her, well, we already know the power of placebo.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_03: It it I mean, it may even be that.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like, so what I'm saying is even if somebody has an issue with um grains that we can measure physiologically, if somebody's belief system is that the grain is going to heal me, I believe they can overpower the physiology.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_03: We've seen this before with, for instance, leptin.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, in telling people you have a genotype to protect you from obesity, it produces more leptin.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_03: Even if the person didn't actually have that gene, they produced more leptin when they ate the next meal.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: So we know that the power is there to overcome the genetics.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: And so what I'm trying to do is I'm I'm trying to say, I feel like I'm pretty well balanced on this that um that i'm not against the grains but what we're seeing is that there is a historic um phenomena that has occurred in some people i personally think you can overcome it which is what i'm trying to do in my own life in clinic what we're seeing is that people aren't there people aren't ready people who are chronically sick like really sick the ones with that she's talking about that would have like these metabolic conditions once you go down this sickness for so long you tend to be more detached from the spiritual right more detached from like your direct connection with God for example less able to listen to your intuition uh you tend to have more things like brain fog or just lack of um a de a decline in cognitive ability it is harder for you then to um be able to overcome the let's say your genetics or whatever you want to call that you know I know we're debating what DNA is you know um so so I think that when what she's pointing to is that in clinic in general what we see is that when we take when we go to a low carbohydrate diet then we're able to see reversal of many of these conditions.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_03: And my position is it doesn't mean you have to stay that way.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's just that this is one of the fastest ways that we're finding that we can get somebody to reverse a chronic or autoimmune disease.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: All right I I think that it can change once you're healed.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_03: That's why I tell people all the time once you're healed that's a whole new ballgame right so come to me and we'll talk about reintroducing foods once you're healed.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_03: We're just seeing this across many different clinics and as she outlined in that paper it's just one of the fastest ways.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't mean there aren't other ways to do it.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't mean somebody can't eat grains and still reverse a condition or eat vegetarian or eat vegan.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay all of those conditions um case studies exist.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_03: So did I answer your question?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_05: Now I'm like I'm wondering what the question is like yeah I I think and I I asked a question but also I think it was more kind of was was making a statement too and I I absolutely agree in the individualism too even for myself um you know I just I you know I I think it gets back to it there is no one size fits all but the emphasis being you know the priority should be first healing your body what your body needs to heal may be different from even within your own family um genetics.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_05: But you know I just I think it's one of those things where once you are healed, once you and and if you can get the right sources, you know, the organic hopefully it's glyphosate free do your own whatever it's there are so many you know vitamins and nutrients in you know and the fact that you know God gave us bread he gave us the grain he gave us among many other things like kefir and other things like that.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_05: So again I just um I just hear it more bashed than on the positive so I just wanted to kind of you know cover the positive side of it a little bit but just emphasize yes I absolutely agree on getting first to the root cause and and and healing before your body can take on um something more like that because it is an inflammatory by you know naturally too as well.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah yeah no I I agree Kim I mean I think we're both in agreement and um I love that the reason we we've talked about grains quite a bit and like because we don't like to keep talking about certain topics we like to move on to next topics you know move and do things but but we keep getting questions in from people and so that's why it's like okay well let's bring this on or and that's why we chose to bring Dr.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_03: Osborne on somebody who is more qualified than myself to I mean I I'm you know I'm a certified gluten-free practitioner study gluten in depth um but he's more qualified than I am he's he's he's a renowned expert in it I'm an expert because I didn't want to die so it's a little different you know but yeah I think you and I are in agreement but you will see that um that interview come out with um with Osborne soon so um you know I'd love to have your feedback on that too when that comes out okay thank you I appreciate it yeah so let's bring a question over to Joel um Joel this question comes from Glenn Holloway um he says um on a webinar with Ag Stewart last week uh they defined regenerative but did not exclude chemical fertilizers specifically and I submit that if we are still using chemical fertilizers that that does not that is not regenerative what are your thoughts that's a good question yeah I agree do I need do we need to expand I just talked for 30 minutes Joel like so so um I don't think that we should eat anything or apply anything to the soil or our plants that is not delectable to earthworms.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: I've kind of come to this new uh in fact I just did a blog on it uh this week where I um I said really we should only we should only use uh I I proposed a um and all this debate about what should you eat what should you not eat why don't we just take all the budgets for all the labeling all of everything and just um have a have an earthworm farm or a worm farm with a hundred a hundred different uh worm beds and just start systematically going through everything that we apply to the soil everything we apply to plants everything that we eat and um and do a one week test and um what the what the worms like uh be gets a green light and what the worms don't like gets a red light and we just let the worms vote and we can get rid of the eagle as our national mascot and we'll um and we'll we'll we'll uh put it to the worms and let the worms vote on what we should eat and then we'll just um then we'll just prohibit everything the worms don't like and we'll allow everything that worms do like uh that's about the only uh government regulatory uh standard I could see because worms don't watch TV they don't have political elections and they don't uh they don't finance their um their own um science so let the worms let the worms vote uh no glenn I I totally agree I I think I think if it's um uh if it's not friendly to worms and then um then it's not it's not regenerative.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Part of the problem with that Joel is the fact that you know how people love to label things kind of like they did with the organic and this this discussion went down the line to well maybe we should get a regenerative label.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well okay then you got something you're gonna label and how are you going to set standards and and and what does all that mean uh jim garish was there too jim and I got talking about the whole butcher baker and candlestick maker about how to how to get things back to the local community where they go is and back to where things were you know many many years ago.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just people start running amok with labels and it just bothers me.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah yeah I mean I've I'm I'm old enough to remember the the first one was natural then it was sustainable then it was organic and now you know then now it's uh regenerative and oh uh they just there's just never an end to it and and everyone tries to I mean you know Alan Savory has his eco uh the eco label and and um then you have Demeter Demeter that has the biodynamic Demeter uh certification label and um it just drives you and and what happens is to me that actually attracts farmers that love paperwork instead of farming and that's what I see I've seen in the organic certification tends to attract uh the the people that seem to be drawn to it are are people who who love paperwork instead of um you know actually producing things yeah uh glenn while you're on do you want to ask Joel your second question here about the profitability of thank you yeah I was I was gonna slide into that if I could be sneaky uh yeah we got into you know how do you get young people on the farms and we all know that buying a farm is is really prohibitive these days but they were really focusing on the fact that uh some of your I'm 72 so I mean I was about to say older farmers but I'm not in that group yet some of your older farmers believe that well if you just show them you're gonna be profitable that'll make you sustainable and that will attract you back to farming and I I submitted that that's not necessarily true that literally the quality of life and this the lifestyle that farming presents to people this day and age you can go out and make a lot of money you don't have to be a farmer to make a lot of money but if you want to be a farmer you're really doing it not because of the funds I mean although that's a component of it I believe you really got to develop a quality of life that will enhance and support those people wanting to come back and be farmers.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Daniel has stayed on the farm there my son stayed with with us because of the quality of life and we got talking about the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker and about the whole localization of farming and how it's got to support the local farmer.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: And Jim Garish actually says you know he said I taught that class once and we should teach it more that it's a farm I remember I came out to Joel's house one time with the Marines I don't remember if you remember that many years ago we were talking about the fact that you've got to have a quality of life for the family and the community it's all got to be brought back to being local and it's more than just profitability.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's a portion of it but really to get people attracted back to getting into farming and everything else you've got to get a local focus and a society locally that will support the farmer yeah well I mean I mean flourishing flourishing business has a lot of nuances to it I mean money is a component but um so is exactly like you said relationships uh community and and quality of life beauty aesthetics I mean who wants to who wants to be on a farm where every day you got to dress in a hazmat suit to go out and you know visit your animals and your plants and and so all those things are are wrapped up in attracting young people to it and um I mean here you know we run this formal stewardship and apprenticeship program and we every year we have and we don't do any advertising on the internet we don't do any we just use our website and every year we have you know a hundred uh applicants for basically 10 spots um and and so I and so I I yeah I think that if you have a you know a well-rounded uh system um that that actually that actually also wants this the next generation involved a lot of farmers uh they they're so independent minded they're hermit curmudgeons and they don't want anybody around until they hit about 60 and realize who boy it'd be nice to have another pair of hands around here and by that time they've run off their own kids they're you know they and they haven't built anything and their only friends are are are their old codger farming friends and so you know there's no I want to I want to come back support base.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: So that's where we are and um yeah I I think I think you're right on and um it is definitely more than money.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: Money's part of it but it is but it's definitely more than money.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like like most things in life.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well thanks for taking my question good to see you again I watched on Jordan Peterson last night.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Ah okay yeah did anybody else watch Joel on Jordan Peterson anyone yes i'm I'm gonna watch it that's my um that's my reward after today for recording all these podcasts well and tomorrow tomorrow is earth day and common ground is coming out I'm really interested to see how that turns out uh oh nice where can we find common ground I think it's on Amazon Prime.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_03: Okay awesome thank you Glenn um Joel you have another question this is from um Tracy H in Indiana Tracy says I've recently finished your book Family friendly farming I love the idea of having the kids maintain their own enterprise however dad says it will just put more work on us because they want to do animals but don't take care of the animals.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh I can relate to that that's how I got five dogs like two are my kids but now they're mine.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_03: So she says what suggestions would you have for a um help give dad on board and B ideas that the kids can do that don't involve living things until they learn to be more responsible oh this is a great question well you got a lot of you got a lot of little pieces there.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean one is you could uh I'm assuming your dad is these children's grandfather and that's that's my assumption uh in other words that dad is not the children's dad it's not your husband it's your it's the children's grandfather I'm assuming um oh okay their dad not mine oh are these children not your children are they're your husband's children well boy there's a there's a there's a lot of little little uh nuances here to unpack and and how old are the how old are the kids that makes a big difference too um they they're mine um I just refer to him as dad instead of by his name um but we've got an 11 year old a nine year old a seven year old and a four year old okay all right um and uh do any do any of them have cell phones nope not at all no cell phones all right that's good what do they what do they enjoy doing um the boys enjoy playing video games which I'm trying to break them of oh okay dad got them started on that was that that was what I was after with cell phones but I should have been more do they I guess my question is do they have you I know I keep I keep checking my little messages and I'm like okay I feel like I'm at the land seal like oh I know yeah yeah but I think I'm gonna eat my lunch I guess somebody's not muted um so so uh soft and will they eat those which we're not supposed to eat raw potatoes okay yeah do they have what honey I'm I'm trying to follow this with Tracy um so screens screens destroy the work ethic I'll just say that right offhand screens destroy work ethic so if your kids are have if there's a TV in the house if there's a screen in the house use it for target practice with your high powered rifle shoot the thing and get rid of it um I mean so so kids that are you know uh that are kind of I'll say normal uh like to interact with adult things the 11 year old is already starting to age out of where you can try to salvage him the nine year old is close to seven and four you can probably salvage so um so when you when you think about enterprises uh if once you get rid of the TV and get rid of the uh screens they're gonna they're gonna find new interests they're gonna find new stuff uh the eleven year old is gonna fight he's not gonna be happy um but that's where you know parents have to be strong and eliminate screens and um and let the kids discover something that they're excited and interested in and then that will form uh what they do and so the whole idea of the ch of the child entrepreneurism is to um is to take the natural desires or proclivities of a child and let them build a turn into a business.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_01: Man if your kids want animals um you know make it make it very clear that they can have animals but the second you have to bird dog them about taking care of them they're gone and make your budget get the animals their money use their money or you you can loan them you can have a be a banker you can loan them no interest money that's fine but make a formal agreement and uh create their accountability and responsibility so that they know that you know they have to toe the line and um and here's the problem if you if you think they're gonna mess up they probably will and so don't be fulfilling your own prophecy um make it very make your expectations clear write them down have them sign a contract expectations and protocols and if it violates then you know then it's over.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: But I I think I think that generally people step up they step up to a bar when we make the bar really visible easy to see and and it's um and it's kind of arrived at by both parties.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: Parents and kids agree this is this is where the bar can be this is where the bar uh should be and um and that's and that's where we'll that's where we'll jump okay.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_04: Did you have a follow-up to that a follow-up question or I imagine just how to get dad on board I guess because he he's very much into the video games himself um and feels like if we take the games away from the kids that they are going to be socially ostracized because that's the normal these days and I can't convince him that that's okay.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well you you've got you've got a marriage problem not a child problem.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: I can agree with that one I'm I'm I'm I'm just I'm not trying to be difficult.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying the you know if you and if you and your husband are not in agreement where the rules and boundaries are for the kids um you've got to you've got to get on the same page or this ain't gonna work.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna be a really really frustrated person and um and there's gonna be there's gonna be resentment resentment's gonna build if it hasn't already I think it already has but um uh yeah I mean I I'm not a marriage counselor but I've I've been married almost 45 years and um I know if you're not on the same page it uh it doesn't get better until you until you get on the same page.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_05: So would it be okay if I chimed in with a quick comment?
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if that's my place or not I'm sorry.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah mainly to the point I I have a 17 and a 19 year old and a seven year old my 17 and my 19 year old we let them video game and I regret it.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_05: And I think maybe maybe talking with your husband as far as video games leads to isolation they're they're socially awkward because they don't know how to go out and make friends or they say their friends are on the video games but it's an easy go to so if they want to socialize if they want to be their friend with their friends they have to go to the video games but at some point those kids will grow up and they will join the military they'll go get a job and they'll be isolated again.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_05: I mean how many friends does your husband have does he have a network of friends and if the answer is no because he isolates on the game does he want that for his sons in their future Sure.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if that would help.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_04: That's a good way to look at it.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I Kim, I love that you chimed in because that's what Joel and I are trying to create a community here, right?
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: Where it's not just Joel and I like pontificating, but where the community works together and you know gives advice.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_03: And and I love that's starting to happen on Discord, right?
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: As people are giving different homesteading advice and whatnot.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_03: And I love it.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_03: So thank you, Kim.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: Can I hop in too for just one second?
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_03: Is that Ethan?
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it's Ethan.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_03: Hi, Ethan.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_02: I think that once we start seeing video games as more akin to pornography, then we will really actually get them out of our society.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I think they kind of function the same way if you really think about it.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: So it can you ex- I mean I'm interested in that comment.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_03: Can you elaborate on that, please?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that they isolate.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_02: I think that they give you like a a pleasure drive that is just unnatural.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: They give you like success, like time and time again, like little successes, um things like that.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like the reason I really started thinking about that way is um I was watching a podcast and he was mentioning something about pornography and how like it's bad for men because it does all these things, and it's like, well, video games do the exact same thing.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like video games really train your brain in a certain way.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I didn't want to believe that myself because I really enjoyed it too.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: But then I was realizing like I wasn't doing anything that I wanted to in my own life because I was so attracted to these video games and spending hours on those.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why was I doing that instead of like reading a book, like learning from Joel?
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, if I want to be a farmer, then how am I gonna spend an hour on video games a day?
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and I really think um that it is really akin to pornography when you really sit down and think about it, as far as like that reward system, that isolation, that this is what I do in my own time, this is my own thing, like it's really kind of scary whenever you start looking at it that way.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um and it it definitely is hard for your soul to take if you're somebody that plays video games, but once you kind of start feeling that way and moving away from them, I just think it's so much benefit for you in your life.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_03: And and Ethan, as somebody has been through it yourself, do you feel like it's something that the individual has to come to terms with and move past themselves?
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_03: Or do you think it's something like a mother or a father could help them recognize and help them move past it?
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_02: So, like I'm just now about to be a parent, so it's hard for me to say um as far as that part goes.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: But I think as far as me personally, like my wife would tell me these things, like you probably shouldn't be doing this, like you know, I think it's a waste of your time and things like that, and it just makes you more resistant to it.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: I think.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's not until you really realize that it's bringing you away from your own interests and what you'd actually like to do with your life, um, that it starts to really be something that you want to move away from.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_02: And even then, like it's something like you try to tell yourself, like, well, if I just play for an hour every now and then, that's fine, but it's really not, and that's why again, like it reminds me of pornography, like, well, if I just you know, every now and then, like that's just not how it works.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like you've really got to remove yourself from it.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um and so I I do think like as far as children are concerned with it, like they really need another interest.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I agree with Joel is that like and again I'm not a parent yet, but I really see these kids that I I teach religious preparation to them, and like they just identify so much with video games.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, do you play video games?
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh we play Rainbow Six Siege or whatever, and like all their lingo is around it.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's like it's so strange, like like that's not gonna help them in their life.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think that's I think that's another thing is like like what do you want to do with your life?
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's like kids these days just aren't being asked.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_02: So like I guess that's probably how I would try to approach it, is to try to find some interest that they have away from that and then kind of try to foster that.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_02: Because I think that's the reason why I ultimately don't really want to play anymore, because I've got I've got books to read and things to do outside.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I certainly think ha having a community helps.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_03: And I think you can also clump um into in some regards social media in in that, you know, not only do people spend a lot of time, especially, you know, particularly males on the video games, but social media can also lead to the same similar feelings of isolation um and and anxiety.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_03: And actually, I was just telling Joel today that I'm reading this book called The Anxious Generation.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_03: And it's it's really been eye-opening for me, uh, especially because I have teens, but also things that he points out in this book are things that I'm seeing um adults' behavior and how we're becoming more anxious as well, which, as you know, this is a very big concern for me because a lot of um uh underlying root cause of dis-ease is this level of anxiety, which basically boils down to fear.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_03: So we're actually gonna ask, um, we're gonna try to contact the guy who wrote this book and ask if he'll come on the program.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_03: And he does.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_03: He he brings this, he he brings this whole topic of why are we seeing these rising rates of like suicide and just mental imbalances and feeling of isolation.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_03: We're seeing these rising rates, and particularly um in this um Gen Z and beyond.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_03: And he's he's actually been able to pinpoint it in large part to um the smartphone, like not the flip phone, but the smartphone, where you have you know, gaming on there, you got the social media on there, um, and all that that entails.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_03: So so I was I was on the fence of where we're if we were gonna actually talk to this guy and you know, talk about this topic, but hearing comments from Tracy's and and others, I think that might be a topic that would resonate with us because he's also gonna talk about solutions, you know, how how you can help children who are already addicted to social media, video games, and whatnot, and how you can help parents and help yourself as well.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_03: So is that is that sound like something you guys would be interested, like having this guy on the show talking about all of these um these similar topics?
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_05: I think I I think I would like that.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_05: I would also encourage going back to as well.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_05: But uh I don't I I struggle with this because I'm uh uh fairly new into my Christian faith.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so I I've learned the secular ways of being not offensive.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_05: Um so but going back to the basics of the Bible, even with the role of the man and the role of the women, and we've walked away with that, and we've we've lost a piece of ourselves because of that.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_05: So um I think just again, like going back to finding our purpose as a woman, what is my purpose as a man, what is my husband's purpose, and our roles with each other and our children.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_05: So I think some of those things that I never learned when I was growing up, and and my parents never learned, um, you know, religion is not faith.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_05: Religion is a checkbox, it's a checklist, do's and don'ts, but true spiritual faith and the journey and what the Bible and God offers us and what that means.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_05: I think, you know, also going back into those realms too.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I love that.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll add, Shannon Welton wrote a comment here to Tracy.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_03: My nephews are 16 and 14, and they come out to the farm to help.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_03: We pay them a little bit per hour.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_03: Now, the 16-year-old has been bringing a friend.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_03: They were big gamers, but are motivated to be out here and find it more rewarding to work with their hands.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_03: If you can slowly create goals for them and maybe get them to bring their friends out and be a source of wholeness for them, I always cook for them too when they're out here.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I always feel good knowing that they get a nutritious meal and an education every time they show up.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_03: Every little seed you can plant in their hearts and minds can make a difference.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my goodness, Shannon.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_03: I I just almost started crying.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like, that's what we need.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_03: That's what oh, she's doing exactly.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_03: And that's she's creating the tribe there, and like Joel said, creating purpose for the kids, you know.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, Joel.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, chances are that the these boys' uh parents are on the same page about sending sending them out for that experience.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: And and um I'm my concern is here that that Tracy's got a a more a deeper, you know, a deeper issue uh than that.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, uh every every time kids get exposed to nature, to ecosystems, to a an aesthetically and aromatically pleasing farm with cool stuff to do, um they're they're not bored.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: They they they find plenty of stuff to do.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but you know, the the screen time is almost like an addiction.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: It it's really very much like an addiction.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: And it functions, I think it functions for us a lot like that.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's fantasy.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's fantasy and it's not real, and we're getting hits that we're not.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um Cena, I'm reading this uh question from Cody about the the ticks.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: The ticks.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see this um long?
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_03: I have not uh no, I have not seen that.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh let me deal with that right away because wow, I mean the thought of having your boots and your chickens covered with ticks and your cows covered with ticks um is is really uh uh quite dramatic.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: So um uh uh number one, I would ask, are you following the cows with egg mobiles?
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's how we deal with ticks.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um but it sounds like you have almost a you know um uh you know a plague type of situation here.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um another thought that I would have is guinea fowl.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_01: If you uh had some guinea fowl, they would eat a lot of these.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how much acreage you have, I don't know how big your place is, but um but but guinea fowl are the nice thing about guinea fowl is they can fly, they can roost up in the trees and stuff, and uh and they will eat you know boatloads of ticks a day.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_01: And um we we don't have guinea fowl here, but we do run the egg mobiles.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean I can tell you all our neighbors have ticks, and um and and we just don't here because of the the egg mobiles and the chickens running out.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: But if we had if we if we couldn't get ahead of it, my next step, what I'm saying is if if I had this situation and I had to do a next step, it would be to go into guinea fowl.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, okay, good.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad you answered that question because yeah, ticks can be k ticks can cause anxiety for us.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_01: They sure can.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_03: Not just video games, it's ticks.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but yes, and I wanted to say because we're almost out of time.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_03: We do have the next live QA planned out.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's Monday, May 12th.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_03: So Monday, May 12th at 4:30 p.m.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_03: Eastern time.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_03: So 4 30 p.m.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_03: Eastern time.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_03: Monday, May 12th is our next uh live QA.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I also saw some questions about um wondering about detoxing.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_03: So what I'll do is um on Discord, I'll post some detox products that I that I like as well.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe we can all just post products that have worked for us and give people ideas.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: That would be great.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um and then Joel, I wonder if you can close this out.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_03: We have I just couldn't not ask this question from Matt.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_03: This is for Joel.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_03: I'm meeting with my U.S.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: House representative next week.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_03: What legislation should I encourage him to support in terms of small-scale meat processing?
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he should support the Prime Act.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's still alive, it's got now, whatever, 67 uh co-sponsors with Thomas Massey.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: So the Prime Act would be uh would be a real simple one, the Prime Act.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody knows about it.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, everybody up there knows about it.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: Not not not necessarily all your neighbors, but you know, the the people in Congress know very very well know about the Prime Act.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, awesome.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_03: And Christopher, I love your view.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_03: I'm assuming that's from your phone.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_03: I want to go there.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, Savannah says, is there a link to Discord?
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Nolan, do you have the link to Discord so people can get on?
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, Nolan's gonna post it.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not that techie.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_03: I just as you noticed, just in the last few days, I realized how to get onto Discord.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_03: I how to get I got on it and I was like, how do I get back on this thing?
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_03: And so now I'm back on.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_03: That's how I started commenting again.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_03: So okay, great.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_03: Well, this has been fantastic.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_03: We hope you guys like the shows we have coming up for you um this month.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and just let us know.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_03: Keep giving us feedback, let us know when there's topics you want you want us to cover, like the ancient generation, the video gaming, any of these things.
• 58:08
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• 58:10
  SPEAKER_03: So we love you guys so much.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_03: And thank you for joining us.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_03: Joel, any last words?
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Nope.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks everybody for being with us.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_01: And um uh it it's um it's great to it's great to have this level of whatever visitation with everybody.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_01: We appreciate you taking the time and an hour to to be with us.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yay! Okay, Bill, we'll see you next month on your birthday, it seems.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, everybody.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_03: I hope you guys have a great rest of your day, and we'll see you over on Discord.