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ITB on WBCB: Eagles Hall Of Fame OT Tra Thomas Breaks Down Eagles Win Vs. Rams, Previews Week 4 Vs. Bucs · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 3: I am Jeff Moser from Inside the Birds alongside Andrew
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  Speaker 3: de Checko Inside the Birds dot Com and our special
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  Speaker 3: guest tonight.
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  Speaker 2: He is a Hall of Famer, an Eagles Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 3: I am offensive tackle trade Tom.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody. How you do it? Man, I'm fantastic. Well that's
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  Speaker 4: great man. We're Florida status back. Come on, that's you
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  Speaker 4: know what. You're not giving me enough cheer? You can't, right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a penn Stater, man, we're top three.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you got a whiteout game right now?
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  Speaker 2: We have a whiteout gamers.
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  Speaker 4: I want to go to a whiteout game.
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  Speaker 2: I have been. It is fantastic trail.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, thank you. Yeah, I have to go check out
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  Speaker 4: that experience one time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tallahassee State College is probably very different.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very different. Yeah, absolutely, but the atmosphere yeah incredible. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, it's great to have you. We're here in Martin,
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  Speaker 3: New Jersey at Chicki's and Pete's awesome show tonight Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: We got listen. You know, Andrew and and Trey. You
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  Speaker 3: guys know, Eagles fans ride or die every Sunday, Thursday
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  Speaker 3: Monday night, whenever the Eagles playing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that Eagles fans are yet.
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  Speaker 3: Like the color has returned to their face from that
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  Speaker 3: game Sunday, that thirty three twenty six win over the Rams.
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  Speaker 3: You Andrew and I were there as reporters. Trey, I
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  Speaker 3: saw you.
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  Speaker 2: At the game.
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  Speaker 3: But I think we need to do a check around
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  Speaker 3: the delvo to make sure pulses are okay.
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  Speaker 2: Do that was pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 4: That was a wild game, you know, to just see
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  Speaker 4: the ebbs and flows of it, you know, to see
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  Speaker 4: how okay you come out of the gain, come right
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  Speaker 4: out the gate, drive down and score and then you're like,
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  Speaker 4: wait a minute, hold on, you know, you know you
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  Speaker 4: see that Lane Johnson goes down. And I think that
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  Speaker 4: when Lane went down, you could just see how much
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  Speaker 4: he means meant to this team. I think it took
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  Speaker 4: a lot of win out of the sales, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to see a leader like that go down. But these
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  Speaker 4: young guys, your young core guys, where you're looking at
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  Speaker 4: what's going on on the defensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 4: And then Jalen Hurts just saying, all right, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: rally the troops. This right here is what that team
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  Speaker 4: is all about. And to go out there and fight
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  Speaker 4: and find a way to win that game. It was
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  Speaker 4: absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 3: This is how far Andrew and you know this that
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles have come over the last three to four
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  Speaker 3: to five years. There used to be there was a
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  Speaker 3: guarantee in life, right, what do they say, death taxes?
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  Speaker 3: And if Lane Johnson and doesn't play for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: They lose, That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Their record without Lane Johnson was terrible compared to their
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  Speaker 3: record with But as Howie Roseman has built the roster
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  Speaker 3: up and the depth on the offensive line, we know
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles focus on it more so than most teams.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that way anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And you get guy like we'll talk about Matt Pryor
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  Speaker 3: in a second. But Fred Johnson comes in absolutely and
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  Speaker 3: he holds the four down and plays so well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was kind of I guess it was kind
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  Speaker 5: of surprising to me that the Eagles didn't go to
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  Speaker 5: Fred Johnson initially, because I mean, I was under the
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  Speaker 5: assumption that he was going to be their sixth offensive linemen,
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  Speaker 5: their you know, swing tackle on game day. But Fred
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  Speaker 5: Johnson did not rep at right tackle at all that week.
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  Speaker 5: That was Matt Pryor. Matt Pryor had repped at right
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  Speaker 5: guard and right tackle in training camp. So you gotta
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  Speaker 5: give credits to the Eagles for pulling the plug when
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  Speaker 5: they realized after fifteen snaps that it wasn't working out
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  Speaker 5: with Matt Pryor.
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  Speaker 2: But that's why Fred Johnson's here.
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  Speaker 5: That's why the Eagles went out and got him before
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  Speaker 5: the season to bolster the depth and give them someone
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  Speaker 5: who they can count on in a critical moment like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, true, that's an interesting point he's making
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  Speaker 3: because and you know, just out literally, well you've coached
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  Speaker 3: on a team with him. I haven't seen him put
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  Speaker 3: a guy in and then pull a guy as quickly
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  Speaker 3: as he did. With Matt Pryor, he's generally, I want
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  Speaker 3: to say, stubborn in a good way where he feels
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  Speaker 3: like the guy and the decisions he makes will work.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he gave him two quarters. He did. He
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  Speaker 4: gave him two quarters, and I think he waited until
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  Speaker 4: after halftime. You know that last sec fumble. He was like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, that's it, you know what, I got to
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  Speaker 4: make the pull. But okay. So one of the things
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  Speaker 4: that you have to go look back at is how
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  Speaker 4: coach Stotland coaches his offensive line. He does not flip
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  Speaker 4: you know, so guys. He usually if Matt Pryor is
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  Speaker 4: your right side guy, Matt Prior is your right side guy,
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  Speaker 4: that's how he's going to train. Fred Johnson is your
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  Speaker 4: left side guy. He does not allow guys to really
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  Speaker 4: go from left to right. And that's just how he
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  Speaker 4: trains it. I think it's smart to do it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: just because the muscle memory that has to happen once
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  Speaker 4: guys switched sides, it's very difficult to bounce back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: So that was one of the things that made it
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  Speaker 4: so impressive for Fred Johnson to step in and say,
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  Speaker 4: all right, I'm gonna play right tackle. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think he's taking a rep on the right side
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  Speaker 4: since he's been back, you know what I'm saying, because
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  Speaker 4: he's always been the left side guy. That's it. So
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  Speaker 4: it has been weeks. He probably only had had a
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  Speaker 4: chance to take a couple of sets when when when
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  Speaker 4: Stout said, hey, man, if these things go bad, I
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  Speaker 4: need you to get ready to go, he probably took
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  Speaker 4: a couple of sets on the side. All right, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: You got to go, and to go out there and
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  Speaker 4: to hold it down the way he did. Fred Johnson
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  Speaker 4: played a hell of a game. Yeah, absolutely did I
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  Speaker 4: love it.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing I like about Fred, and by the way,
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  Speaker 3: it was probably I'm gonna congratulate you on saying something
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  Speaker 3: nice about a Gator. I know, I know that I
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  Speaker 3: know them probably I know you know Winter's inside.
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  Speaker 4: And then seeing him going against my former seminole as well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm like, oh, yeah, they're so torn, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But but Fred, man, I mean, he just came out there.
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  Speaker 4: He played really extremely well. It was very balanced. When
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  Speaker 4: you saw him go out there, he played with extension.
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  Speaker 4: That's what you want to see when you're talking about
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  Speaker 4: offensive line play. I want you to play with long arms.
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  Speaker 4: You're not bodied up, and then you start to see where. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: they felt like, you know what, we don't have to
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  Speaker 4: slide this line to you. We don't need to have
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  Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley protect you, because when you try to protect
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  Speaker 4: a play on the offensive line, then you expose the quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Because one of those sacks happened because Saquan was there
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  Speaker 4: trying to help Matt pryor get inge and then you
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  Speaker 4: got a guy come up to be gap Boom, that's
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  Speaker 4: a sack. So anytime you try to protect the play
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  Speaker 4: on the offensive line, you expose the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So the Eagles, as we all know, we
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  Speaker 3: all saw it, they get down twenty six to seven
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  Speaker 3: after being up seven to nothing. They go three and out,
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  Speaker 3: then three and out, then three and out.
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  Speaker 2: Then they kneel down it before the half. Then they
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  Speaker 2: go three and out again.
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  Speaker 3: And I can't believe it, the defending Super Bowl champs,
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  Speaker 3: Andrew you were there, how loud you could hear the
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  Speaker 3: booze already coming down in Week three for a two
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  Speaker 3: and zero team, But it was ugly. The offense just
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  Speaker 3: had no life to it after that first touchdown. When
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  Speaker 3: you look back on it, right and you've seen this
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  Speaker 3: offense be explosive, was there anything in your mind that
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  Speaker 3: might have triggered you that something was coming or were
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  Speaker 3: you thinking this might be the day they don't figure
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  Speaker 3: it out?
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  Speaker 5: Well, when you don't, when you see the Rams not
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  Speaker 5: be able to capitalize and settle for field goals, you
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  Speaker 5: get into halftime and you think, well, if the Eagles
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  Speaker 5: are able to figure this out again, any semblance of
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  Speaker 5: offense going, they're going to fight their way back into
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  Speaker 5: this game. And there's if there's one thing that I've
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  Speaker 5: learned from covering this team under Nick Sirianni, it's that
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  Speaker 5: they are a brasilient bunch. They don't flinch no one
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  Speaker 5: and they realize that it takes a collective effort to
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  Speaker 5: get it done.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what you saw on the second half. As
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  Speaker 2: soon as they.
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  Speaker 5: Put Fred Johnson in there and they're able to run
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  Speaker 5: their offense and not be limited.
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  Speaker 2: You saw what they were able to do. They open
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  Speaker 2: things up.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, and Trey, just from your own experience, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you've been a player, You've been in situations like that.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles had some unbelievable comebacks during your heyday. What
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  Speaker 3: is it like when you kind of have a period
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  Speaker 3: of a game like that where the offense cannot do anything.
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  Speaker 2: Do guys pull together? Do they get frustrated? What's that feeling.
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  Speaker 4: I think there is some frustration because you're trying. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you're trying to make that play work. But I think
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  Speaker 4: you also look at all right, hold on, we're running
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  Speaker 4: these plays into some bad situations. I think the Rams
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  Speaker 4: that an excellent job of defending in the run. They
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  Speaker 4: came in and they loaded the box. They played five
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  Speaker 4: down whenever they could, and everybody says, all right, well, hey,
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  Speaker 4: just run the ball. It's not to me, all right.
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  Speaker 4: As an offensive lineman, I'm a pass first guy. Look,
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  Speaker 4: I want to pass first because if I can spread
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  Speaker 4: you out, then I can light you up in the
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  Speaker 4: run game. And that's why, to me, I feel like
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  Speaker 4: pass opens up the run. I don't want to use
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  Speaker 4: run to open up the pass. I want to use
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  Speaker 4: pass to open up the run. Especially when you have
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  Speaker 4: aj Brown, you got Slim on the other side, you
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  Speaker 4: got Dallas Goddard, you have way too many weapons and
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  Speaker 4: an offensive line that is extremely good at protecting. I
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  Speaker 4: would I would to me I would air it out
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  Speaker 4: as much as possible, make you play me in a
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  Speaker 4: six man box, and then then now come and light
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  Speaker 4: you up with the run.
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  Speaker 3: Does it feel like Auskin is both of you trail
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  Speaker 3: star with you? Do you feel like I hear what
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  Speaker 3: you're saying? And that's certainly some Andy Reid Era's let's
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  Speaker 3: do that. But under Nick Sirianni and with Jillen as
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  Speaker 3: the quarterback, they've never really, outside of a game here
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  Speaker 3: or there, decided they were gonna come out and throw
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  Speaker 3: the ball to sixty five seventy percent clip they general.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying, well, that's what I was asking you.
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  Speaker 3: How do they find that balance between passing more to
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  Speaker 3: be less conservative, as aj Brown would say, and yet
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  Speaker 3: not coming out of their their comfort zone of what
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  Speaker 3: who they are.
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  Speaker 4: I would say that let's go more, a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more eleven personnel, let me spread you out a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more. All I need is a tight end on
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  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage every now and then. I don't
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  Speaker 4: need two tight ends. This offensive line does not need
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  Speaker 4: everybody petted into the box. If you could give me
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  Speaker 4: one tight end every nine and then I'm good And
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  Speaker 4: Coach Stoughton is one of them. This when you go
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  Speaker 4: back and you look at the runs that have been
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  Speaker 4: extremely effective for this offensive line have been inside zone runs.
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  Speaker 4: And the only way you can make inside zone run
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  Speaker 4: is you spread everybody out and you make it that
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  Speaker 4: five to six man box.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I agree.
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  Speaker 5: I think you go eleven more eleven personnel in that situation.
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  Speaker 5: Spread spread them out a little bit, which you can
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  Speaker 5: run from by sure, of course, it gives you optionality,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that that's something that as the Eagles
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  Speaker 5: start to work through the season, you have to wonder
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  Speaker 5: if that's something that they're going to implement a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more of.
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  Speaker 3: Right, are you guys into analytics like EPA Expected points?
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  Speaker 2: Nahna?
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, usually they'll tell you something, even if
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  Speaker 3: they're misleading. The Eagles did lead the NFL last year
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  Speaker 3: an EPA out of eleven personnel when they ran the ball,
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  Speaker 3: so they certainly don't have to be in as much twelve.
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  Speaker 3: Which is two tight ends for those listening at all,
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  Speaker 3: as much as maybe they feel like they need to be.
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  Speaker 4: Well, because everybody plays a version of nickel where you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna get four down linemen and two linebackers and the
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  Speaker 4: rest of these secondary players. So if I can line
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  Speaker 4: up in an eleven personnel and maybe had that tight
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  Speaker 4: end there every nine, then then now I'm getting a
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  Speaker 4: six man box, and I like my five or six
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  Speaker 4: against your five six all day. And then if you
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  Speaker 4: try to bring a safety in there, I got receivers
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  Speaker 4: that can come up there and we'll light you up.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why I feel eleven personnel it suits his
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  Speaker 4: team a lot better, especially when you're dealing with a
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  Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley, the type of running back that you're.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely all right.
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  Speaker 3: So the big question coming out of this sort of
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  Speaker 3: jeckle and high performance that a lot of fans and
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  Speaker 3: people want to know is was that dormancy in the
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  Speaker 3: first half play calling, execution, or play design what Andrew?
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  Speaker 5: In my opinion, it's always a culmination of both or
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  Speaker 5: all three in your case, because I mean, it's hard
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  Speaker 5: to just pinpoint it solely on play calling because there
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  Speaker 5: are plays there to be made.
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  Speaker 2: There are in every game.
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  Speaker 5: So I think to to kind of put the onus
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  Speaker 5: on Kevin Pittulo as being I guess him being the
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  Speaker 5: anchor that's holding this offense back, I think that's a
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  Speaker 5: little short sighted, but I saw a lack of execution
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  Speaker 5: as well. We had a unique vantage point watching it
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  Speaker 5: pretty much an all twenty two view in the press box,
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  Speaker 5: and there were plays there to be made.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, before you answered that, I also want to throw
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  Speaker 3: into this because you have the experience of having to
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  Speaker 3: go from one offensive coordinator to another to another.
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  Speaker 2: Who was who was the first one for you? Was
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  Speaker 2: it came out when Andy came well?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And then was it Brad Childrens after that or that
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  Speaker 3: bire May?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Right. I was just like, I don't know who's calling,
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  Speaker 4: call it and let's go. I didn't care.
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  Speaker 3: But did you ever feel like a guy needed a
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  Speaker 3: few games to figure it out?
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  Speaker 4: Even even after you know what, I wasn't the type
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  Speaker 4: of player to think about that. You know, I had
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  Speaker 4: my hands full. I got the baddest pass rush over me.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't got time to be worried about what you call.
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  Speaker 4: Just call it, and then half the time it was
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  Speaker 4: going to be a pass anyway, So you know, right, right,
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  Speaker 4: But I think that it was a little bit of both.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you have lane go down, I'm just
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  Speaker 4: saying I think the importance of lane going down was
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  Speaker 4: extremely important. With this offense, and then you got my
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  Speaker 4: Matt Pryor going out there. He probably thinking, in this game,
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  Speaker 4: you know what Lane is going to play. This is
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  Speaker 4: gonna be one of those games that he's gonna play
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  Speaker 4: the entire game. You know, he wasn't ready to get
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  Speaker 4: in there and step in and have to hold down
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  Speaker 4: the fort. But you never know when your name is
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  Speaker 4: gonna be called, and that's what you should always be ready.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, to me, I think that that took
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  Speaker 4: a lot of win out of the cell and then
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  Speaker 4: they felt like, all right, you know what you can't protect,
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  Speaker 4: so you're gonna have to run, so we're gonna load
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  Speaker 4: the box. And I think a lot of that effected
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  Speaker 4: hod this offense was going for the first half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing, I think we can all like calm
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  Speaker 3: the best the masses the best we can, which is
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  Speaker 3: kind of crazy because the team's three and zero, but
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  Speaker 3: there is a lot of Kevin Batulo doesn't know what
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  Speaker 3: he's doing. But just like the coordinators we said under Andy,
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  Speaker 3: whether it was Dana or Marty or Brad, they were
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  Speaker 3: running an offense Andy wants. They were running his version
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  Speaker 3: of the West Coast. When you watch them succeed along
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  Speaker 3: with when they're they're still running the same play concepts,
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  Speaker 3: the same play design. This is still the Eagles offense
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  Speaker 3: that we've seen the last three years. It's just I
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  Speaker 3: think when when you have a new play caller, it's
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  Speaker 3: just does have a fuel for when to call those
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  Speaker 3: same plays that somebody else might have called at a
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  Speaker 3: different time.
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  Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Yeah, I mean a fuel.
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  Speaker 5: He just called his third game ever as a play caller,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that's really important and whether or not
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  Speaker 5: folks like to accept it or not, I mean, the
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  Speaker 5: month of September by and large in the NFL is
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: viewed as an extension of the preseason. It's preseason for
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: the play caller. It's preseason for offense, defense, and special teams.
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: I went on the record before the season started at
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: Circling Week five, is when you're really gonna get a
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: sense for what their identity is on the offensive side
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: of the ball and defensive side of the ball, and
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: what they're ultimately going to be.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Trey.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Also, to hammer home a point you made earlier about
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: what the Rams were doing defensively, they came into the
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: game blitzing at a twelve percent rate, Okay, that's really low,
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: third lowest in the league.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: In that game, they blitzed at over a thirty five
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: percent rate.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: So I think what you're seeing here is teams are
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: going a little bit out of character because it's really
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: hard to beat the Eagles, so they got to figure
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: out a way to do some different things. And that
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: causes the Eagles issues because, as you hear a coaches
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: say all.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: The time, unscouted looks things they don't prepare for.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: You know what. Okay, well, yeah, you go back and
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: you look at how this offense has handled the blitz. Now,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: I mean you go back and you look at what
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: they did against Kansas City and you're dealing with Steve Spagno.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: You're one of the best blitzers in the game, and
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: they locked him down. They did a heck of a
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: job of redirecting, making calls. Landon Dickinson is the one
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: that makes all the calls and he directs that offensive line,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: so he's extremely important when it comes to that. But
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: when you blitch this offensive line, Coach Dollen has prepared
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: these guys well enough that they pick up the blitz
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: a lot and they do a really good job with it.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: You go back and you look at this game. There
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: were some wild stunts that they switched off and was
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: able to handle it, and they would give him a
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: chance to get the ball out. But you know if
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: you blitz them, all right, cool, somebody has to be
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: open on the edge and you have the dogs out
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: there that can make those plays.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: And those dogs came through in the second half. Of course.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: All right, we gotta take a break. Here.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, we're joined by former Eagles offensive tackle, a
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• 17:43
  Speaker 3: when we talk about the injury report, obviously we talk
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: about the guy we've been talking about that they missed
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: for most of that game, Lane Johnson, who sustained a
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: neck injury in the game.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I don't believe he was in the locker room after
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the game now did he talk. I don't think he talked.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Usually the guys who get hurt don't talk. They don't
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: want to talk about it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I don't want to speculate, but Trey, you play the position,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: you hurt your neck. It's probably probably not great for
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: any position that you played, but I can't imagine it's
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: great for lineman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's about it, right, Yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I don't you know, so they said he had a stinger.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: That is an injury that has like a various degrees
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: of Yeah.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I've seen guys going.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, you know, I'm you know, oh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I know, I know you played.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: With I know, but you know, but hey man, you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: if you've never had one, it could be you know
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah yeah, so yeah, I don't know. I hope
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: he's back next week, you know, but if not, then
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: you give Fred Johnson a week to kind of get
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: himself together, so that gives coach Stoutland time to kind
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: of work with him, which I think Coach Stoutland was
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: one of the best in the game when getting guys ready.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: You know what, you know, when we had the Hall
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: of Fame game, you know, no, not the Hall of
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Fame game, the alumni game. We all came back and
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to go down on the field
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: and coach go see Coach Stotland, because I'm like, look, man,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: the biggest feather in Coach Stotland's cap to me is
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: what he did with Makai Beck then and making him
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: a left taking a left tackle and putting him in
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: right guard and what one game? Yeah, a preseason yeah,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: and making him a Pro Bowl right guard and into
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: what two weeks? And I think that that's when Coach
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Stoutland is one of the best in the game when
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: it comes to that. So if you if Lane can't go,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: all right, you have a full week to get Fred
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: ready to go. And I have I'm okay with that,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: and you.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Would have to think it would be Fred taking the
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: reps to right tackle this week.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, all right.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Other injuries that happened in the game, well, Darius Cooper
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: went out by the way, only like you know, us
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: three who kind of watched the tape and find things
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: that the common person might not see on TV. They
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: have snuck Darius Cooper into games as eleven personnel, but
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: they're using them. I don't want to say like Johnny Wilson,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: but they always run. Yeah, with him in the slot.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: They clearly like his strength and the push wide receiver.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the push. He's actually playing more snaps than than
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: John Metchi. Yeah. How about that over the last two
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: weeks because of a being on the in the short
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: yardage to push.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: They like his toughness and physicality.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Nick Sirianni talked about that after he had made the
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: team that he's sort of the grimy type of player
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: who can do some of the things that Johnny Wilson
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: was able to provide for the offense.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And now he left with a shoulder, shoulder right, right.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: And then the last that was one more injury, Dory Jackson.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Dorry Jackson. Yeah, that's gonna be an interesting one.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: He left with a groin injury and he did not
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: return that game. Ja, Cory and Bennett came in. Looked
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: like he may have gotten a little dinged on that
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: field goal block when he took out the punter.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Vic Fango said something interesting.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: Today about Keey Ringo said that at the end of
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: the summer, he said, I told I told Keeley to
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: you know your time' is gonna come, You're gonna play,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: so stay ready. He also said that about Jacorey and Bennett.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: After I asked him about him, what have you seen
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: from him? He said, oh, he was gonna play for
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: us this season. They also had mac mcway James, the
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: rookie corner from UCF who's mostly a nickel. He's mostly
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: been playing nickel, but he can play outside as well,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: so they have some optionality if a Dory can't go.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, now, we did have a fan walk up to
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: us and ask do you think the Eagles will bring
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: in another offensive tackle or cornerback? And I think we
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: automatically ruled out offensive tackle unless Lane was gonna miss
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: a long time.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: But corner now is an area Andrew where you just
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: said they have some bodies, but it's one also an
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: area where how he is just always poking, always lurking,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: seeing if there's.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: A better deal around the corner.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: As Adam Kaplan likes to say, you know, depth isn't
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: about how many players you have at one position.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It's about the quality of those players.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: This is a really good opportunity for them to learn
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: about what they have in Keeley, Ringo, Jacory and Bennett
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: right ahead of the trade deadline so that you can
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: get a better assessment of what that room is, what
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: kind of depth do you have there, and then you
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: kind of go from there. But if there's a better option,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: you know that Howie Roseman's gonna leave no stone unturned
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: for the betterment of that team.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: And then the last one he didn't play, but he's
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: starting to get I guess ramped. Back up would be
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Will Shipley, the backup running back who was supposed to
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: again we talk about some of the offense and the
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: newer concepts, but he's been hurt so they haven't been
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: able to really use them.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so will practice the last two days of last
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: week in a limited capacity. One would think that barring
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: you know, if he doesn't have a setback, he will
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: be able to go this week.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: And watching how they were unable to feel.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Those knuckleballs on the kickoffs, it made you really, you know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: wonder for how much Michael Clay missed Will Shipley back
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: there because he reads those those type of uh, those
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: type of balls and and and those type of.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Things very well.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Sure, what do you think we got dynamic kickoffs. Now
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: we got knuckleball kickers. Is this the further removed you
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: get from this game?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Are you worried about.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Like it's gonna I don't know if he'sa happy Gilmore too.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: And the crazy golf thing where they're playing in.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Snowy yeah weird. Yeah, I mean to have that problem though,
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: you know, as a kickoff.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: For come on, man, I'm with you. I get it once, right,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: because you can't practice against it. But this is time. Yeah,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: five times, two guys too. Five times.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: And they brought Tank Bigsby here with the primary objective
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: with him being the kick returner initially, and he had
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: at least one or two Metchi had a couple that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: I mean they Michael Clay, the Eagles special teams Cordator,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: talked about that today about how Jake Eliot and Braden
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: Man tried to really hone in on what Joshua Cardy
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: the Rams kicker was doing, and they weren't able to
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: even replicate that because they hadn't seen it before.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: So I don't even know how you would practice that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: But you almost have to act like a shortstop I imagine,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: and being able to kind of square your body off
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: that that's kind of the way that he was acquitting.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: What's that The ball still.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Goes, it just doesn't spend, you know, Like that's one
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: of those positions that I really respect because I mean,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot that's happening. I mean, I mean,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: but you still got to kick. He's still just kicking
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: the ball, kicking the ball, all right, So he's putting
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: like a little curve on it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Right English, Yeah, I could change up.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I guess like you ever see a wider you ever
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: see a quarterback yet hit while he's throwing and the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: ball floats in the air and somebody figures out a
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: way to still catch it and run. It seems like
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the Eagles couldn't get that part of it. Like the
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: balls in the air, it ain't spinning like it normally spins.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: It's just kind of floating.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Just catch it. It's not that hard.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Well, you figure, I feel like the first or second one,
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: you figure you'd have a grasp on it on how
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: to get a better read on it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: But here we are.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if Michael Clay anybody played baseball here,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: you know, just looking for someone who's seen it change up.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I can understand a.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Knuckleball figure out, go ahead, go go go return it
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: tray two blocked field goals.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Now I want you to give us your most scientific
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: X and OH breakdown of how this happened to the
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Rams in the most important moment for them.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Offensive lineman hate field goal protection? Why because all you're
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: doing is just taking a leak. Everybody just sits there
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: and you like, all right, you know what you always talked,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: all right, I want to take my a gas b
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: gap or whatever. You want to step step and then
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: you just sit there and you just allow that defensive
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: lineman to just run through you, you know what I'm saying,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: and you're all just like you know, everybody's like, all right,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I want to just step step and then you just
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: take it. And you want to just die a slow
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: death because you're gonna die. You're dying, you know what
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. But you want to die a slow depth
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: because you're taking two guys to the chest and you
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: just like, Lord, please just hurry up and kick this
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: ball so we can get this over with. And a
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: lot of times guys kind of just coast through it
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: because you feel like all right, you know it's you
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: know it's a feel goal. Kick the ball, but man,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: these guys came through back to back.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I wonder does it make it different the
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: way the Eagles align Carter and Davis right next to
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: each other. And then I believe on the game winning
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: or losing for them kick that was a backup guard in.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Ken Kevin Dotson. It was Bolimmer. Bolimmer right, who was
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: a center, I think, right backup center.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's about I have the punch, punch and
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: die slow. He didn't have to die slow part. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: then you got Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis, who is
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: just absolutely massive running right down the middle of you.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Like what there's even if he was able to set
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: and bull and hop on it, there was nothing he
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: could do. And then I mean, Jordan Davis is what
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: he's what sixty six? I mean, that's a massive individual.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: And then he puts his hands up there blocks the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: field goal. First of all, you had Jalen Carter come
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: through on the first one and block it, who's a
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: beast of his own. And then Jordan David comes through,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: blocks the field goals, scoops it up and strikes whatever
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: it is to come to spread.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: He was clocked at eighteen point five to nine miles
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: per hour.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: How does he run faster than me by two hundred? Well, no,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I wish, but Jalen Carter said he's way faster than me.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty I mean, how many teams put their
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: starting dts out there on field goal kicks?
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Does everybody do that? Okay? I'm just making sure pretty.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Sure everybody you know goes out there for for field
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: goal block? Yeah, you know, because you got to have that.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: You just never know, right, you know. It's not like
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: an extra point where you're just like, all right, everybody,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: come off. This is gonna be a you know, a handy,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: you know. But for a field goal, now, we need
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: all hands on deck, especially in that particular situation. Right.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: And yet, despite what you said about how difficult it
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: is that people running at you, field goals are kicked
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: at a pretty much eighty five and higher percent regularity
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: these days. So even though the offensive lineman got to
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: take it on the chin, you don't see it let
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: alone once but twice in the same quarter, and then
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the Jets did it later. And of course, in Jets fashion,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: they've lost.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: And uh, Michael Clay highlighted Byron Young and Moro Jomo
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: also for what they were able to do on that
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: play as well.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Right, and did what specifically did you guys see from that?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Were they just getting through their gay because they did
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: collapse the entire side of that line.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they dominated their side of their their side of
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: the line, and it made it all It kind of
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: muddy things up. Yeah, Jordan Davis completely just walked bo
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Lemmer back into the kicker, and you saw what happened.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: We're gonna go to a break in a second. I
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: just have to ask this as we go in your
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: you're Sean McVay. You've done everything you absolutely can to
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: win this game and you lose it in that fashion.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: How do you sleep that night? We can do you
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: sleep that night?
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah he does?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he goes you know, he goes home.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Is it like Andy, Like I thought you were gonna
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: bring it up that he's married to a model.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So all right, great talk, great talk. In the next segment,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: we're gotta get talk about sakuon Barkley and how to
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: get this guy sprung.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: We'll do that. We gotta take a break.
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles, it does not get any easier, by the way,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: this schedule, it never does. They just went and beat
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: an undefeated team, and now they have to go and
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: play another undefeated team, one that has their number, so
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: to speak, especially in their stadium, Raymond Jayden Stadium, home
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who have really taken it
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: to the Eagles over the last few years. Now there
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: will not be a Mike Evans, it sounds like for
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: the Bucks. So that limits them. They still are without
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Chris Godwin. However, how do the Eagles get their offense
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: going quicker? And not just the pass offense. But the
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: run offense, Saquon Barkley, he is waiting to break out, Andrew,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: what's gonna happen here?
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, they have to find a way to
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: get him rolling. Honestly, it feels like they're like they're
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: just a play away. And Kevin Patulo spoke today about
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: the coaching staff need to collaborate and figure out a
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: way to create more space for Saquon. But while I
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: think some of that has to do with play calling,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: I can't help but wonder watching the tape if he's
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: pressing a little bit.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And I'm curious to get Trey's take on this.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley's averaging just three point three yards per carry
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: based off of tape study, Trey, what are you saying
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: and what can the Eagles do to get him rolling?
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Pass the ball? So to pass the ball, you need
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: to be able to spread it out. You need to
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: stop going with this twelve personnel trying to go with
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: two Titans. I think you go a little bit more
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: eleven personnel, spread everybody out, you get a six man box.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Because coach Stoutling is one of the best in the games.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: When you're talking about combination, blocks, and whenever you can
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: get combination blocks, that's where you're operating Coach Stotlin's wheelhouse.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: So for you to be able to do that, you
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: need to be able to air it out. You gotta
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: pass it. You're gonna have to get aj Brown, You're
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: gonna have to get Slim involved. You have to hit
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: some tight end runs, I mean tight end passes, get
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: Dallas involved. But for me, you got to spread this
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: out because if not everybody's gonna play you five down,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: put two linebackers in there. Theyre gonna make it hard
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: to run. And I don't care how many you can
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: sit up here and say, hey, we gottaet them going,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: we gotta get them gone, we gotta get it one. Well,
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: you got seven eight nine in the box, seven to
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: eight in the box. You're not gonna get him going.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: You've seen tape, you've watched it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering if you think at all, because there was
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: sort of a I don't know want to call it
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a narrative, because some of it is true.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: If you look at running backs who have touched.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: The ball as much as Saquon Barkley touched it last year,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: it's hard for them to duplicate that success and they
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: wear down. But when you're watching him on tape, you're
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: not seeing Are you seeing anything differently from me?
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: No? I know I'm not seeing any wearing down of Saquan. No,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: not at all. I mean you saw a play just
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: in that last drive that they had where Saquan comes
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: up in the hole. You got a defensive end that
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: crashes that he spins off of him and still hits
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: the front side gap. I think Saquan is still an
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: extremely great athlete. There's no slowdown in his you know,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: he's definitely haven't lost his step. It's just that you
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you're running him into a five six seven man box,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: right you know when they're playing five down with two
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: linebackers over the top that you know, it makes it hard.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: You need to be able to throw the defense out
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: of that, throw him out of it so that they
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: play the pass light in the box, and then now
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: you get this offensive line getting combination of blocks and
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: then you'll see Saquon really take off.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: And to your point on how they're playing a lot
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: of twelve personnel and putting two tight ends on the
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: field lately and trying to run their second tight end
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: is not a very good blocker, so I almost sometimes
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: wonder if if it's working against them. And to trace
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: point in, Drew, put three wides, spread out the defense
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: a little bit and give yourself some more lanes instead
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: of just trying to put grank Kalkatara out there and
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: ask him to block at the end.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm in agreement.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: I'm not so sure why they're going twelve heavy twelve,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: especially you know the previous week when Dallas Gotter wasn't there,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: there was a lot of twelve personality surprise. So you're
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: putting Grant Calcatara and Kylon Grants and there. Kylon Granson's
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: not an inline blocker, nor is Grant cal Katara. I'm
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: interested to see if they utilize Cam Latu, who they
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: elevated from the practice squad a little bit more. He's
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: a much more physical blocker at the point of attack.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: But they need to go more eleven. And so I'm
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: in full agreement with what Trey was saying. But to
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: kind of further debunk the narrative that that Sakuon barkleays
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: maybe running out of steam coming off that two thousand
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: yard season. You see the toughness and physicality and contact
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: balance that he's running with from first quarter to quarter four.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: So you're not able to do that if you're running
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: out of steam. I think he's got plenty of juice. Now,
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: it's just about execution and getting things rolling offensively to
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: better balance out what they're trying to do.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I think one of the things that you're going to
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: see as well, and this is just because all right,
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: so let's just talk about this real quick. Whenever you're
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: in a gun progression and you're in the gun formation
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: and you have running back to the right, nine times
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: out of ten, what you're gonna get is a three
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: technique away from him and a one technique that's on
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: his side. So I think one of the things that
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: you're going to have to start doing if you really
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: want to see this offensive line take off, is start
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: running the same side inside zone where you say, okay,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I want sae quant to just take a step left,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: and then we're going right back into that one technique
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: because now you're gonna get combination block combination block on
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: the back side. So that's how you start forcing some
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: of those matchups when everybody says, all right, you know
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: what he's in the right, we're gonna put the three
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: technique opposite of him, So that shuts down a lot
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: of that. And I think also one of the things
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: that you need to do is if you're gonna have
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: the tight end on the line of scrimmage and if
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: you have a possible combination block up to the second level.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I cannot have that tight end try to jump around
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: the defensive end to shoot up there to that linebacker
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: because it muddies everything up. I would rather than work
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: together with the tackle, get some push, and then now
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: we make something happen.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Sure, So the running a counter almost right where he
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: sort of runs in the same direction where he.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Just steps to the left, all you gotta do is
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: take a little step to the left, give the lineman time,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: and then you come right back to it. You saw that,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: You go back and you look at what the Fred
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Johnson to play. That they ran on the right side
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: where Fred Johnson not that defensive end and he went
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: up phel That was the same side inside zone run.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: It's just a defensive end crash. Fred knocked him down
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: and just kept climbing up to the second level. So
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: it's something that they're already doing. It's just that they
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: got to kind of keep going doing it a little
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: bit more.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: And by the way, while we're on the subject of
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: offensive lineman, Tray, i'd love to hear your opinion on
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: what you've observed from Tyler Stein through the first three games.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You know what, when you look at first of all,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: the right guard is the hardest position on that offensive line,
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: just because you're the one that has to do the
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: silent count. You have to turn and you're doing running
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: silent count at home, you know, So it's not just
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: you know, so sometimes you're operating as soon as you
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: turn your head around, you chat the center, and you
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: just got to trust whatever the call is that's there.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: But I think that he's been doing extremely well. I
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: think Seeing has been a really good guard. There at
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: times that I feel like he gets a little bit
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: off balance and gets lost in space, but I think
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: overall he's a really good guard.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I always felt bad, Tray to your point about those
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: right guards for teams like out in LA or when
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the Chargers of San Diego and they were playing the
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: East Coast team and their fans were they'd have more
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: East Coast fans right opponent fans in their stadium and
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: they'd be really loud, and then the home team.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Would have to go to a silent count.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: It's one of the advantages you should I know, sometimes
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: you do have to use a sound count at.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Home, but not always, and they just never had that advantage.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Well, you know what, for me, especially when we started playing,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: you know, I preferred the silent count. Oh you know
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying instead of cadence because at times sometimes
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: the quarterback they start, especially with me, now you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: he would get into your case. So it's blue Eddy
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: eight blueya said. So when we used to look at
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: these tackles and the way they get that jump, they're
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: not looking at the ball. They're off the rhythm of
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: that cadence. And if there's any lag in that cadence,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: if the if the quarterback sees the safety, he blew
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: it blue it, they're gone, you know, just because they're
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: used to the rhythm of it. But for me, I
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: preferred the silent count because I knew was his head turned,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: I was gone. So I prefer that rhythm, especially when
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: we're in no huddle. If we're in no huddle, I
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: want to do silent count just because I can time
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: that a little bit better than having to deal with
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: the cadence.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Interesting I would have not.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's flip sides because one of the biggest issues
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: for the Eagles when they face the Bucks is that
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Todd Bowles wakes up and gets out of bed thinking
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: of his next blitz, and he doesn't just know it's blitz.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: He disguised as blitz.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: He breaks down protection schemes as well as anybody in
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: the sport.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: So as an offense lineman, tray when you.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Know you're going up against the guy who's gonna put
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: a lot of guys a scrimmage, try to mess up
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: your blocking patterns. You're gonna go five zero at sometimes
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: and then he's not even gonna bring five if he
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: brings four. Right, how important is it to be? I
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: guess the communication? How difficult does that to deal with?
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Oh? Everything is from Landon Dickerson. Landon Dickerson controls that
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: offensive line. Now you know Cam Jurgen, he makes a
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: couple of calls, but Landon Dickerson is the one that
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: navigates a lot of what's going on when it becomes
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: protection and stuff. So you know, and he's extremely smart.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: You know you're not fooling Landing Dickerson. There are times
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: where everything looks like, all right, hey, we're becoming left,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: and Landon has called everybody and say no, we're going right,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: and he picks up the blitz Zude. Landon Dickerson is
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: extremely smart and he's gonna be in that meeting room.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: And that's one of the things that I don't think
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: a lot of people really understood when you had Cam,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Jurgen Kelsey, and Landon Dickinson. You had three centers in
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: the interior office of Line and Landon Dickinson is the
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: guy that's gonna be the cause. But you know he's
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: gonna sit in that meeting room. He's gonna be right
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: there with Cam. And I think that when Landon Dickinson
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: is going to be the guy that's gonna navigate a
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: lot of what's going on isrew.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that Todd Bowles saw what Trey was talking
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: about before, is that there are times where Saquon.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So he maybe he was helping Matt Pryor, but there
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: was a free rusher on that planet MC got him. Yeah.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: You usually the running back, I would think, is supposed
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: to be posible.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So so Saquon at times is not the best
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: of blitz pick up.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: He's not.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: And so this is an area where I think Todd
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Bowles is going to really try to say, Hey, if
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: we can, if we can get him confused as where
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: we're coming, that's what we're gonna do.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: That's the first thing I thought of when I went
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: back and rewatched the Rams game, is that Todd Bowles
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: is gonna look at that and try to exploit it.
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: So I'm I'm not quite sure Saquon Barkley is not
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: that adept and in terms of pass pro the Eagles
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: are gonna have to find a way around that because
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: they're gonna throw some things at him that that's gonna
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: have them guessing throughout the whole afternoon.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Is that then, to come on, Jaalen to understand that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: No, I think that what you're gonna find. You know,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: if Lane Johnson is playing this game, you don't have
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: to worry about it, you know.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Because he's played in some of the games that they
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: and plenty of the games that they've lost.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Yeah, I just worried about the free rushers.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're not. You don't have to worry about
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: the same You don't have to cover for him. True,
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying, Because on that particular
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: side where you had the secondary player come up the
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: B gap, that was because uh, Saquan went over there
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: to kind of help Matt Prior because he felt like
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: he was getting edged and I think that that was
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: something that was talked about. So he went over there
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: to try to say Matt Prior and then you open
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: up the B gap. So if you have Lane Johnson
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: out there, or even with Fred Johnson out there, you
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: don't have to worry about that. Then sa Quan can
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: go ahead. Because you go back and you look at
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: a couple of blitzes. I can't think of which one
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: it was, but you had where Fred Johnson's set out
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: took the widest guy and the bark I think it
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: was Saquan stepped in, took that backer that came the
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: BEG gap formed it up. So as long as he
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: doesn't have to try to protect the player, I think
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: he's okay.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: All right, we got one last break.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Then we'll come back and we'll continue to talk about
• 43:09
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• 43:12
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• 43:25
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• 43:27
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• 43:29
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• 43:31
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• 43:32
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  Speaker 1: and Andrew did check.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's right, and we're here in Marlton, New Jersey.
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  Speaker 3: Chicky's and Pete's great night. The windows are open. We
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I gotta ask you this, Tray Yea.
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  Speaker 3: As you know, observing now as a former Philadelphia athlete,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I've always felt that there is nothing better than being
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: around the Delaware Valley when the Phillies are in the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs and the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: Are rocking and rolling like they are right now. The
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: past few years has been really nice. This one could
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: be even greater.
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  Speaker 4: Do you do you appreciate that in this area absolutely,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: spirits are high. Man. You know, everybody is all well,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody's feeling good. Phillies. You know, I'm not
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: a big base, small guy, right, but you know I
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: know that they're doing well. Good job. You know, I
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: have no idea what the record is. So it's been said.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: I think you've heard when the Phillies are playing in October,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: every pitch okay, all right, yeah, I'm a ACC games,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: but I haven't been to a baseball Get you out,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I meant that. I just think every single team in
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: the Southeast is in the SEC. Now, forgot the ACC
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: still exists. That's okay, that's a right. Let's get back
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: to this Eagles game against the Bucks.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: The Bucks have had the Eagles number. Now, there was
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: a game two years ago in Tampa. I believe it
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: was a night game where the Eagles won.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, so it's not all doom and glue they have.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: This is historical. They have won each of their first
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: three games on the final drive of happened. So you
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: got Andrew two very resilient see house the horrors for the.
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: Eagles, it has and look, I think the real field
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: temperature is supposed to be.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: He want to hit the beach just in there.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: I just left Florida. I just left Florida Saturday and
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: it was beautiful, dude, Like it was eighty degrees really.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, it was cool man, little walks. And
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, anytime we get ready to
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: go down to Florida, it just turns into just like
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: it's hot. Like when we played down there, they were
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: frying eggs. I remember that year when they killed like
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: this ninety yard field goal and the wind yeah you
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and the pavement was so hot.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: But you know, but before last week, it was beautiful,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: beautiful down there.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: There's been some epic games there.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I mean think about the sorry to bring up the
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: bad ones, but obviously the sixty one yard field goal
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: by what's is that Bryant?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Right Bryant? You played in that game?
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Yes? I did.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: I had a friend at the game who said he
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: almost died in the third quarter of heatings on so
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: hot that that game. Yeah, Donovan actually threw up that.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: And then do you remember Nick Foles to Jeremy Macklin
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: at the buzzer?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: That must have been like in the Chip Kelly Aery. Yeah,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, right quarter of the end zone. Yeah, I
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: do remember that. Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: How much does that heat really matter as a home
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: field advantage for the Bucks at this time of the year.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think it should matter that much this early
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: in the year. Everybody's used to dealing with summer workouts.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: It's not that we're not that far into the cold season.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's eighty degrees now, you're practicing
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: in warm areas. When it affects you is when you're
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: talking about November December. You know what I'm saying, When
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: it's cold where you are, and then you got to
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: go and deal with that heat. That's when it becomes
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: a problem.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still pretty hot there in November.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, they're going out there a day early
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: to acclimate to the heat.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: So what that is amazing? I couldn't wait for They're
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: going out Wait a minute, they're going out on Friday.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they're flying out Friday.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Yep, what are we gonna what are we doing? We're
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: gonna go lay out on the beach, that's what. Excuse
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: in the sun. Just take some Sunday. Yeah, because the
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: kind of sunscreen.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure what one day is gonna make.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what one day is going to do. Like, man,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: that's a man. I love this new era of football.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah you got you know, you got knuckleball kicks, right,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: you got teams leaving a day early to go in
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: the same time zone the.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Same time so like we would have to fly to
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: like Alcatrass. You know what I'm saying to get to
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: leave a day early. They are leaving a day early
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: just to go to Florida.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: That's awesome, man. And what they're doing right now, that's awesome.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Good job.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but listen, you can't question it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: They keep winning, they keep winning. What can you say?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: You know, because at first I was one of those
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: guys that felt like, man, training camp needs to be physical,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: you know, And they're like, yo, I need I need
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: guys to play in the preseason game. No, we don't
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: need to do that. You know we're winning. Hey, hey,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: shut me up.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Did you happen to go out to any training camps
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: training camp pack?
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: I ain't going to training camp to watch do what.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to be at training camp when I
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: was a player. I'm not going as a fan.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: So I was always wanted to hear if they're what
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: the biggest difference was that you noticed.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: But no, I have no idea. I'm not going to
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: training camp. Don't in fight me to training camp. I
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: told her, I told you any time the train you
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: want to come to train No, I don't want to
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: come to training camp. Why do I want to go
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: to training camp? Memory?
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Scarred for life? What you're saying?
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: I never go to you know? I I worked training
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: camp last year with Kansas City with the Chiefs. I
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: went out there with Big Red and worked with their
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: offensive line. Fun experience, awesome time being back out there
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: in the trenches with that, but to come back here
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: and say, hey man, you want to go to camp. No,
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: I don't find a lot of things to do. He didn't.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: He didn't call you maybe two weeks before the Super
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Bowl and say hey, okay, so I'm really I'm really
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: hurting that left tackle here.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Here's the funny thing about that. Uh huh okay. So
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: in December I text it Red because I saw like,
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: all right, you know what, you're having some issues. They
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: had benched Wan Ye who was one of their tackles,
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: and I sent Big Red some film and I was like,
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: a Big Red, man, this is what i'm seeing. You
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying like this, this is what you know.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: And he was like he shot me your thumbs up.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: He mode you like, yeah, no, we're good. I was like,
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: all right, okay, no, you weren't good.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Well in his mind, he's like, I'm just gonna move
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: my Pro Bowl left guard to left tackle and I'm good, but.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: It doesn't work that way. It's gonna work out. Don't
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: worry about it. Thank you for your information. Uh yeah,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: we're gonna go ahead and go on with what we got.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, So you.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Know, listen, trying to tell you you did your best.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: You tried, and this was way back in December, but
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: you know it was awesome to see, Hey, how our
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: guys went out there and handle the business.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: We can't end this show without having a discussion about
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Eagles linebackers because for as long as you played for
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: the Eagles.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Trade there was Jeremiah Trotter and he was really good. Carlos, Carlos.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: As you started to yeah, as you guys started to
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: move on as a franchise, by your last few years there,
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: it wasn't the same. And then after you left, I mean,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: the level of linebacker play, off ball linebacker play really
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: started to deteriorate to a point where they were just
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: throwing street free agents out there one year to watch
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: what Zach Bonn and Jehand Campbell and na Kobe Dean
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: To watch the level that they've taken linebacker play here,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: what is that like for you?
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: You know what?
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I was just talking to Westbrook about this during the
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: game on Sunday. We were just sitting there, Yeah, yeah,
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: we were, I'm like, man, you know, linebacker played just
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: as in the Keio used to be. You know, yess,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: not the Jeremiah Trotters of the game senior. You know,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: linebackers that's gonna come downhill and kill anything that moves.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: It's not like that anymore. These guys are a lot
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: more skilled, I think because they're asked to do a
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: lot more. You know, where you have to go out
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: there and you have to take on a tight end.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: You gotta try to cover with some of these receivers
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: come across the minute. You gotta pick up these linebackers.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: I think Zach Bond is one of those type guys
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: that he can play downhill. You can see he's very
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: smart where he'll hit the gap and go make those
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: plays in the backfield, and then if you need him
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: to get dropped back in the coverage, he's extremely athletic
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: to do that as well. Jahi Campbell one of my
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: guys from IMG. I was on the staff when he
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: was down there. It's really amazing to see him come
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: back home and to play as well as his as
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: he's been playing. You know, I'm really proud of what
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: we're doing in that linebacker course.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: Shout out Timber Creek High School area on New Jersey
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: right around the corner from here.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: All right, Andrew linebacker play.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I think people have waited, you know the nature of
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: people around here, they can't love success. They always think
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: the shoes going to drop, the waiting for Zach Bonn
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: to like for.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: The coach to go back to a pumpkin, like this
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: can't be real. And each week he makes a play
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: that makes you say, no, that's just who he is.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, he's not going to turn into a pumpky.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: This is who he is.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: And I think you're seeing him grow more and more
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: comfortable within the system. Within Vic Vangio's defense. He's a
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: longer player. Trey talked about your hot campbell. He's also
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: a longer player. They can get after the quarterback, they
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: can cover in space. They're just really smart football players
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: that are having nose for the football. And then you
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: have Nikobe Dean who could be coming back at some
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: point amidst at the midway point this season smile mind,
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: and they drafted him. It's just a really well rounded
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: group of linebackers and I think that they have really
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: equipped themselves to have this, you know, in place for
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: the foreseeable future.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's gonna be a great future for the Eagles. Linebackers.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: It is a great current right now for Kyle Schwarbers.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: He goes deep and tries to chase that home run
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: record from Ryan Howard. We are out of time, quest,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I can save a minute for the great question. Yes,
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: what are we doing as past rushers? Well, let me
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: ask you this. The rams are We're only facing third
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: and five and longer three times. The whole game kind
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: of hard when you're getting run on.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: I need a little bit more pass.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need I need my guy.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: I need the guy to step up to say, you
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: know what, he can go get me one.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Listen. Zadarius Smith might be that guy. But let's see.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Let's see what happens this weekend Sunday, Tampa, Raymond James Stadium.
• 56:30
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