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Pebble Beach 2025: Monterey Historics at Laguna Seca & The Big Show · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  John Summers is the motoring historian.
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  He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept
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  sports bike rider hailing from California.
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  He collects cars and bikes built with plenty of cheap and
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  fast and not much reliable.
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  On his show, he gets together with various co-hosts to talk about new
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  and old cars driving motorbikes, motor racing, and motoring travel.
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  Good day.
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  Good morning, good afternoon.
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  It is John Summers, the motoring historian, part two of Pebble Beach
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  2025, as reviewed by me and the boy today looking at, uh, the time that
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  we spent at the Monterey Historics.
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  At Laguna Seka and the big show itself, that Pebble Beach, Concord de la go.
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  We didn't really do the auctions as thoroughly as we might
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  have done this year, did we?
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  Because the next day we went to Laguna Acre and camped.
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  I mean, I love the G of Seka.
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  All the categories.
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  Their categories are like all my favorites.
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  Like there's a group C category.
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  I love Group C Cars.
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  My favorite car ever behind the Licken house, oh oh seven LMH car
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  is the Porsche 9 6 2 in Texaco.
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  Liveries.
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  There was one there.
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  I You didn't know.
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  I didn't see that car.
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  Oh, there was a Texaco 9 6 2 there.
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  So, just to be clear, we went out on the Friday, didn't we?
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  We did the auctions on the Thursday.
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  There was, there was a Formula One class that was on the, on the Friday
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  we licked our wounds at the ridge Mark.
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  Then we came back on the Friday.
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  I got up, that was the day where I got up at the cracker of Scro.
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  You have a sleep in?
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  And I went shopping, didn't I?
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  I was back with the shopping before like eight o'clock in the morning.
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  Bacon with my Wagyu beef burgers that never break.
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  Never got eaten.
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  Yeah.
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  We're gonna have.
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  For dinner tonight, we're gonna eat.
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  We're and they're gonna be much better cooked up by your mother
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  than cooked up by, uh, cooked up on that Terrible cooked up by Jack.
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  No, I'm not knocking Jack.
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  I'm not knocking.
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  Jack.
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  Jack made our dinner, so I'm not knocking he for that.
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  He, yeah, he did.
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  Jason did.
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  The burgers that we ate were Jack.
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  Oh, the sausages with Jason.
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  I have a funny story about, but, but listen, but listen.
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  Right, so we went out to the track, the campsite, we camped, didn't we?
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  With Jack, with the, with the Joy Titus.
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  In the bed that now the Joy Titus is a custom air mattress.
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  I'm gonna add it then made for the 2016 Toyota Tundra.
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  This is not sponsored.
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  This is not sponsored.
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  You can get the Joy Titus at a price of it was 79 bucks.
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  Anyway, 79 bucks.
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  And to be honest, commend it.
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  Don't for a comfortable night's sleep.
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  I don't recommend it.
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  You don't?
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  I don't recommend it.
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  If it hadn't rained, we'd have been all right.
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  I don't recommend the joy if we hadn't have been right on top of the hill
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  where it was really windy, where I couldn't even get the canvas in the bed.
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  Right.
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  There were six men there.
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  There was Jack and his son.
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  And then there's another friend of my dad's who's has a son.
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  And then there is a man wearing a man wore shirt in this room who
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  also has his son because we were on the outside of the raining curves.
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  That's why Jack, there wasn't it?
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  There were, there was my dad and two of my dad's friends, they all had sons.
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  We were all about the same age.
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  And anyway, the point is we all brought bikes.
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  The place where we were like camping, it was like loose gravel basically.
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  And everybody's out there like sitting in their camping chairs.
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  You know there is one man, Jean shorts, jorts.
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  Plaid, is that what they call it now?
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  Short.
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  Sleep.
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  Yeah.
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  Jorts and Lucas loves them, dude.
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  Um,
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  well seriously, or in an ironic way?
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  Kind of both.
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  He only likes them 'cause his dad.
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  'cause Eric hates them a good, he's like, he, you were in the store and
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  he was like, my dad would love those.
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  And he points out like some army camo shorts.
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  Anyway.
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  Anyway, so there was a man in a Ferrari hat in a plaid shirt
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  with jorts on short sleeve shirt.
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  Anyway, like loose surface is really going to drift on, on your pedal Bikes
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  we're drifting around and I, on my bike came up and I drifted not in front
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  of the guy, but like in proximity.
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  How far away to the Ferrari house, how far away would you say you were from him?
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  Seven feet.
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  Six feet, probably six feet, and he was like.
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  Yo, fuck off man.
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  You're kicking up a bunch of dust.
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  And I was like, okay.
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  So I went over and I told my friend, Alessandro, he, he's a
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  little bit of a troublemaker.
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  As soon as I told him that story and what he said, Alessandro's
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  like, I'm gonna go and piss him off.
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  That's exactly what he said.
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  I'm gonna go and piss him off.
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  So me and Luca were watching him ride off and he drifted, you want me to
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  name the feet we need to go into, we need to go into inches for this one.
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  He drifted like eight inches away from his, away from him, and the dude in the
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  Ferrari hat went, he, he grabbed his leg and went, man, a little rock, kidney.
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  And these rocks are like the signs of pebbles.
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  He was like, ow, man.
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  This pebble just hit me.
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  Anyway, that was just the story of Mr. Ferrari hat.
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  Well, thank you for, for the, for the inappropriate Anglosaxon story.
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  Um, and you might well think if my mother's listening, she
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  would think, well, not only.
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  Where you were?
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  Where were you, Jonathan?
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  And I would say that I was nearby.
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  I was only a short distance away when this was taking place.
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  But you only heard until the following day?
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  Well, because I said to you that night when we went to bed, I was like, 'cause
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  you boys were riding around all the time.
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  I was like, you must have had some adventures.
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  Not all.
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  Did anything happen?
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  And you were like, no, no.
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  There were no incidents.
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  There were no incident.
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  And then in the morning, then in the morning when we were having coffee, you
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  were like, oh, that bloke over there.
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  He told me to off.
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  And the thing with it is those people on that side of the campsite, right?
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  If you were camping over there, you couldn't see the track.
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  Like why would you camp over there like where we were?
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  You could see down onto the track, right?
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  No, but the reason we, where they were recently, we took
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  the Ferrari, that was it.
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  The bloke with, was it the bloke with that escort mark?
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  What?
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  The bloke was near that escort mark one.
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  I don't know what you're talking about.
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  There was a car that was covered in a tar over there.
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  It was like an escort mark, one that had kind of two big wheels on it.
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  It was bluish.
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  We kind of took the Ferrari hatted guy for granted because at his word
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  and did well, I just wanna point out that if he would've said, Hey,
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  can you not drift in front of me?
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  And this all would've played out differently.
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  He wouldn't have swear, or maybe it would've 'cause he's annoying,
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  but, well, he swore at you.
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  If he hadn't have sworn at you, it, it wouldn't have stro wouldn't
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  have wanted that reaction.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  What else was memorable about the, uh, about the camping?
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  Walking.
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  Walking in the paddock that was very memorable.
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  Walking around in the paddock with my friends, that was fun.
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  What was cool about that?
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  I was, because we're kids.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  There's kind of like a free pass to sitting in cars.
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  Did you sit in a lot of cars then?
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  Yeah.
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  Or did you sit in Well, we sat in a bunch of mustangs.
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  'cause like Ford was there.
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  We sat in the new Mark four.
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  I should have said that when we were still talking about it.
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  No way.
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  I didn't know that.
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  Yeah, we did.
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  Wow.
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  Dude, that was Spro.
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  We saw, we sat in a gold one.
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  It was, I should say, I was the lights, I was tired by the time we got to, once
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  we got to the camp, I was like few.
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  I just like sat in the camp chair.
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  You can see the CO from the spot where at we could see, could see porch,
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  the cos group and you can see 'em going right round the rainy curve.
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  Oh wow.
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  During the Group C group I was watching, of course, 'cause
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  it was my favorite group.
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  And whatever the Groupness Nissans called came down the corkscrew and spam.
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  He is a car length off or he's a car width.
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  Off of the apex or no off of the exit?
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Where you're going to be on the exit.
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  A Mazda 7 87 B comes down, spins, does like a J turn look
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  and move sneaks past the Nissan.
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  Nissan.
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  Then a pink 9 6 2 comes up.
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  And spins, barely avoiding the NI Nissan.
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  The NI Nissan has moved by then there's yellow flags out just after this.
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  The TransAm group and the Group C Group went at the same time
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  'cause they were both small groups.
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  A black TransAm car wasn't close enough to see what it was.
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  Came down and.
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  And then they closed it.
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  Apparently the Nissan, Nissan had came in the power too.
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  Early span dropped oil and that's why the 7 8 7 B span the 9 6 2
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  span and the Trans Am car span.
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  So there was an oil spill.
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  The kitty litter truck came out, poured down some stuff, work back to racing.
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  You boys went down to um, turn six as well.
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  Yeah, that is, Jack was saying he reckons that's the best place for
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  Jack was not lying when he said that was a really good place to.
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  Set up why we went down there for this historic Formula one class
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  and it's just, you're so close.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  To the cars, you feel like you could like reach out and touch them.
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  The spot where you're watching, you can also camp there.
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  If you're like 10 camping, you can camp there.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So there was a bunch of people come out their tents on the
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  inside of turn six or the outside.
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  Outside.
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  On the outside, that's the good place.
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  'cause then they're taking the racing line.
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  So they're on the outside of the track.
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  Yeah.
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  So then you're even closer to them.
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  Where we were standing, there was just like a big drop off.
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  And then the track there was just like, for me, and I'm
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  short, I'm like four, eight.
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  It's like neck height.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Uh, of a fence.
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  So if you really wanted to, you could climb down and just go down there.
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  But we didn't do that.
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  The historical one class, it was a very good spot for that class.
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  You can see them like as they're like pounding the brake, you can see their
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  body like shifted over to one side as they're trying to like downshift while
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  they're like one handed, like turning in.
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  It's just, it's a cool spot.
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  I'm disappointed.
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  I was too lazy to get down there.
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  I think I was building the campsite.
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  I was building the Joy Titus.
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  Well, let's take a minute to talk about the night really quick.
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  Oh.
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  I mean, it rained.
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  The night was a, was a adventure.
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  Yeah.
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  'cause when the sun goes, so they stopped racing about five 30 and it
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  seemed like by six 30 the sun was down.
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  We'd add like our burgers.
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  By that time we'd made friends with the people at the campsite next.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  These people, these people were cooking a pig and they'd be cooking
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  it all day and we were meant to go down there, but we didn't end up going
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  down to eat their pig sandwiches.
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  Well, that was because the blokes next to us, they were a bunch of
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  engineers and one of them his hobby.
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  Was making distilled liquors.
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  He made one especially called the Cork Screwed.
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  That's cool.
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  That's actually a good name.
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  Yeah.
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  The uh, but the, it was all like absent kind of flavors.
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  He assured us they weren't poisonous.
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  So, anything else about the overnight experience?
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  Well, it rained, didn't it?
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  So I could have bought a tent.
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  Terrible Joy.
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  Titus Terrible is just this inflatable mattress.
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  I did buy Canvas to go over it, but, but it was so windy you
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  couldn't get the Canvas card.
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  I couldn't put that down.
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  But I also bought bivy bags, which happened to be emergency single use thing.
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  So we had the sleeping bags inside the bivy bag, didn't we?
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  No.
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  No.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  And we went to sleep and I woke up and it was raining and I was cold,
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  and I realized I was cold because I was wearing a sweatshirt and jeans,
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  sweatpants or whatever, pajama pants.
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  I put my arm out of the sleeping bag.
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  I don't know why I put it onto what I thought was the joyus, but actually
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  there was a small gap between the Joyus and the bed wall and that had
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  filled with water, and I just dumped my arm into that pool of water.
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  My arm was like freezing like crazy.
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  I was like trying to pull up my bivy bag, but it was all wet.
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  It was like soaked, so it didn't really help you.
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  And then like, oh shoot, now my hand's all cold.
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  And it's like, oh no, I just touched a cold part of like a
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  wet part of my sleeping bag.
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  Shoot my other arm's freezing now.
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  Yeah, it, it was, uh, it was an adventure.
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  Not the best planning by me because when I woke up the second time, I really had to
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  pee, but I was like so afraid to get outta my bag 'cause it was so wet and I left my
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  shoes in the bed in between me and my dad.
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  So I could like grab them if I had to go to the bathroom.
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  But then I realized like, oh shoot, they're all soaked.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I had to hold it till the morning.
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  Yeah.
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  There was no way you, like, you couldn't move at all, like roll over at all.
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  'cause like you're worried you'll roll over into patch of wetness.
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  Yeah.
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  Well you would.
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  You would, you would.
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  Because uh, when we got up and we took our sleeping bags off, we had noticed
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  that the Joy Titus had changed color.
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  Yeah.
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  So the water there was just like.
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  Two imprints of dryness where our bodies had been.
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  And then everything else, like in between us and all around us was
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  just like this darker joy, tus color.
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  Alessandra had some kind of flight or something to do from Hong Kong.
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  Yeah, he was, he was gonna fly a plane or something, he said.
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  I dunno.
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  So, uh, they left he Jason and left really early, didn't they?
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  And then, um.
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  Jack and Luca hang on a little bit.
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  And then they went, and then by about lunchtime, we were the only people.
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  Yeah.
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  On there.
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  We were the only people on the campsite.
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  So we trotted down to, um, the paddock area, got some chicken tenders.
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  Well, you had some food.
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  I was over it.
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  By the time I couldn't eat anything by that time, slept properly.
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  And we were, we were so tired and like fatigued, we were
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  just like, oh, screw this.
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  And we buggered back to the ridge mark.
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  Yeah, we, uh, beat a hasty retreat back to the Ridge Mark Resort and Spa.
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  Slept, showered, watch tv, recovered ourselves.
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  And then what about the big show itself, Ollie, the first time biggest you
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  ever went to the Pebble Beach Concord.
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  So every year since I was like seven.
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  I had gone to all the things we had just talked about.
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  Instead of going back to the ridge mark, my dad would've took me home
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  and then he would've driven back.
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  'cause he was a docent.
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  He would work on the day and he couldn't deal with me.
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  But this year, the docent program had been canceled because
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  three buses had got stuck.
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  Explain that.
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  And then, well, that's rather political.
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  Actually, but the docent program has been downsized, hasn't they?
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  And we think it's partly because last year a lot of certain kind of ticket holder
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  had got stuck and had missed their tours.
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  So people had felt like there were lots of extra docents and
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  therefore, yeah, uh, fewer docent tours were required this year.
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  So meaning that I could do this, do show with you.
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  Definitely a silver lining in the cloud there.
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  Yeah.
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  So firstly it was nice to not have to get up at three o'clock to be
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  able to, and you know, in order to be there at like five 30 kind of thing.
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  It was nice to be able to get up at like, we drove right in, no traffic
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  at, yeah, that's a big thing.
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  Parked on, uh, yeah, drove right in without any like stoppy start and
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  it, we went in on the highway 68.
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  You know, highway one, highway 68 entrance.
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  We went in that way and just drove straight in, no Stoppy Starty parked.
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  They had us park up at the side of the road just round the
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  corner from the Inn, Spanish Bay.
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  We were on a bus straight away, straight into the show, dumps you out
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  at the top of Peter Hay Hill, so you have to like walk down Peter Hay Hill.
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  So there is quite a walk.
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  But I realized that as we were getting there, you know, I was saying to Ali
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  that there are really three shows.
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  There's the actual concor.
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  Then there's the concept car lawn.
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  There's ca and then, then there's Casa Ferrari, because really Casa
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  Ferrari's like up the hill from the main show, but there'll be like
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  50, 60, maybe even as many as 80.
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  There's, so there's a Ferrari out there.
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  There's, there's a variety.
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  There was a Ferrari 4 9, 9 P was there, Michael Schumacher's Formula
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  One car was there, as we said earlier.
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  But then there's also like GTOs.
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  Yeah, there were three GTOs weren't there, that three 30 L and b that I
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  love the three Tour de France together.
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  So you could compare door handles and the color of the Loures
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  and light covers and yeah.
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  And so that was really cool.
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  You spent a while explaining the difference to me between
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  the four A eight gt I I, I said before, I love Group three cars.
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  And there at Casa Ferrari there was four iterations of Ferrari Group three cars
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  and I gave my dad a crash course on that.
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  Yeah, there was a Ferrari four 10.
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  That was probably my favorite car of the whole event.
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  I loved the 3 7 5 plus that they had at rm, but I loved even
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  more that X shall B four 10.
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  They they, that was on, that was Upper Cara Ferrari.
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  They also had Louis Hamilton's Ferrari Formula one car.
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  I don't know how they did, 'cause like he's meant to like use it, but it was
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  number 44, so it was definitely his.
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  So that, that was cool.
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  So the entrance of the show, there was the long look for Glick at house.
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  Oh yeah.
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  There was a, well it wasn't, it wasn't an LMH car, which was sad, but
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  it was oh oh three or three oh oh.
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  SC.
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  G Scooter.
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  Or Carmen.
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  Or Carmen, I can't pronounce it.
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  Licken house.
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  It was a stick.
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  So no paddles, which my dad was surprised by.
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  Honestly.
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  I was too.
• 17:55
  'cause it's, you could be seen or it is a super car brand.
• 17:59
  Little surprising.
• 18:00
  What'd you like on the concept Car?
• 18:02
  Well, it's hard to describe concept cars.
• 18:04
  Yeah.
• 18:04
  What did you like?
• 18:05
  That's why I said there was that Mercedes that are quite like Was the what?
• 18:09
  There was like that natural looking thing like, oh yeah.
• 18:12
  Yeah.
• 18:12
  It's hard for the viewers to know what's on the concept car.
• 18:16
  Along there was a, if you can name a car, I can put a link in and
• 18:19
  they can find it, but I can, well, that was that orange Mercedes.
• 18:23
  Something.
• 18:24
  Yeah, it was a tribute.
• 18:25
  Had six real tail lights, which I thought was cool.
• 18:28
  Two group three Porsches, one of which had like a tiger motif on it and two
• 18:34
  of the teeth were gold, which was cool.
• 18:36
  Oh yeah, yeah.
• 18:38
  Rexy.
• 18:38
  Yeah, Rexy.
• 18:39
  Yeah.
• 18:40
  Alright.
• 18:40
  Onto the lawn.
• 18:42
  Onto the lawn itself.
• 18:43
  Big show itself.
• 18:45
  Ollie, how was that for you?
• 18:46
  First time it was great.
• 18:48
  I will forever go on the lawn when I can if I can.
• 18:52
  Much bigger than I expected.
• 18:54
  So many more cars than what went on tour.
• 18:57
  There were at least like a hundred more cars that went on that went on the tour.
• 19:00
  But 'cause my dad has insider connections, as you could say, we got some influence
• 19:07
  on who was best in class from some of the judges that my dad is friends with.
• 19:12
  Yeah.
• 19:12
  Well, we Ted around, didn't we?
• 19:14
  Well, I know one of the guys that judges preservation class, so we chatted
• 19:19
  with him a little bit, didn't we?
• 19:20
  Yeah.
• 19:20
  Um, about what he, uh, what he looked like.
• 19:23
  I also know somebody who prepared one of the cars that was in the COBRA class,
• 19:29
  so we talked a little bit about that.
• 19:30
  Yeah, I had a good chat with him.
• 19:31
  He was impressed by my knowledge.
• 19:33
  Which felt good.
• 19:34
  Good.
• 19:35
  He's an episode.
• 19:36
  He, he owns three Cobras.
• 19:37
  You know that Tom Cota show Bonfire Hunter?
• 19:40
  Yeah.
• 19:40
  There's an episode where he is on that show where Steve's on that show.
• 19:43
  That's cool.
• 19:44
  Doesn't own those cars.
• 19:45
  He looks after the for people.
• 19:47
  Um, well, yeah.
• 19:48
  Another feature Mark, other than 75 years of.
• 19:51
  Formula one was, um, cobra.
• 19:53
  So they had the best examples of every iteration of Cobra.
• 19:58
  So they had the closed top ones, they had the narrow hip ones, which those
• 20:03
  are the ones where the fender goes over the rear wheel, which I don't like.
• 20:06
  They had the classic open, top, regular hip, or straight, not over the wheel.
• 20:12
  And, uh, they had some, a race open top ones.
• 20:16
  They had like at least two of the best examples of every iteration.
• 20:20
  I was kind of surprised they didn't have Carol Shelby's actual car.
• 20:24
  'cause you're at Pebble Beach.
• 20:26
  I don't know.
• 20:26
  It's probably destroyed or something.
• 20:28
  Well, it was also big block cars only.
• 20:31
  It was four 20 sevens only.
• 20:32
  Yeah.
• 20:33
  But why would Shelby have a small block?
• 20:35
  Well, because he originally had a small block and the small block cars
• 20:37
  were always meant to be much more streetable than the big block cars.
• 20:40
  True.
• 20:41
  But yeah, I and Shelby must be handy.
• 20:44
  I take your point that you might have expected to be a car where
• 20:48
  the Shelby connection, there was a class of moretti's, wasn't that?
• 20:52
  Which is tiny, tiny cars.
• 20:54
  Like little.
• 20:54
  I feel like if I feel like that could be my, I could drive that if I had
• 20:58
  to pick a car to drive right now.
• 21:00
  I could drive that.
• 21:01
  The class of Invictus that was the best in one of the Invictus was best in class.
• 21:07
  Well, our best in in show.
• 21:09
  No, no.
• 21:10
  Yeah, it was that brownie.
• 21:12
  The best in show was the Hispano Swer tulip.
• 21:16
  Oh, I get these things mixed up.
• 21:17
  I should tell you a little story about that.
• 21:19
  I knew that car.
• 21:20
  But when I saw it on the field, I was like, oh, it's a tulip wood,
• 21:23
  but it is not as handsome as the one that was in the Blackhawk.
• 21:27
  Well, this is the same car, but it's been redone and in my opinion,
• 21:34
  it's been redone to be less elegant.
• 21:37
  The problem is what the problem is.
• 21:39
  It's been really done well.
• 21:40
  It's probably stock.
• 21:40
  It's probably stock.
• 21:41
  And that's why it's one.
• 21:42
  Yes.
• 21:42
  Because if the more, I mean that's what, that's the little bit of the
• 21:46
  confusing part of Pebble Beach.
• 21:48
  'cause it's like.
• 21:49
  Elegance, I'll take off the pony wheels and put on the American racing
• 21:54
  ones, and then it's like stalk.
• 21:57
  I take off the American wheels and put it back on the ponies.
• 22:01
  Yeah.
• 22:01
  The thought of a Fox Mustang appearing on the Concor audit
• 22:04
  Pebble is, is, well, that's just, that's just not, that's the first.
• 22:08
  That, but that, no, but no, but that's example, that's a really
• 22:11
  great way of, of thinking about it.
• 22:12
  Ollie.
• 22:13
  Um, just back to the cobras, the close top is called the lm
• 22:17
  and Jim Farley was at Laguna.
• 22:20
  He's the CEO of Ford.
• 22:21
  If he didn't know he was at Laguna, he has a LM edition Cobra.
• 22:25
  So close top.
• 22:26
  He won his race pretty Hadley.
• 22:28
  He just drove off at the front, didn't he?
• 22:30
  And he, he owned, did he own a BRM?
• 22:33
  He owned that BRM that was on the lawn.
• 22:35
  Oh, really?
• 22:37
  The Graham Hill one, if you've seen the movie Grand Prix.
• 22:40
  What?
• 22:40
  What's, yeah, well name.
• 22:41
  That was my favorite car in the, oh, there's era, so sixties Era Bureau.
• 22:46
  Yeah.
• 22:47
  And it's the car that's driven by hot staar.
• 22:50
  Character, character, character.
• 22:51
  I get the, I'll get the pronunciation right in the end.
• 22:54
  Yeah.
• 22:54
  That tulip wood car, Ollie.
• 22:56
  It was built for the Targa Florio 1924 Targa Florio.
• 22:59
  We had it in the Blackhawk Museum and then I have a book about the history of
• 23:03
  the type of Flo and I was looking through it and I was like, it's a one of one.
• 23:07
  It looked nothing like it looked like in the museum.
• 23:10
  The car, it's one of one gold wheels and these ridiculous flairy arches put on it.
• 23:16
  That looks elegant.
• 23:18
  It's American wheels, dude.
• 23:19
  Exactly.
• 23:20
  They, it was more elegant with the American racing Wheels.
• 23:23
  What has happened to it since it's left?
• 23:25
  The Blackhawk is RM have put black wheels on it.
• 23:29
  They've taken the chuff mud flaps off it.
• 23:31
  Mudguards off it and now it's come to Pebble in Won.
• 23:34
  Yeah.
• 23:34
  So I was a buffoon to miss that it was potentially gonna win.
• 23:39
  There was that blue lancer that I thought was a potential winner.
• 23:42
  Yeah.
• 23:42
  We, we usually make predictions on like, who might be the best in show?
• 23:47
  Do that Ollie.
• 23:48
  I wouldn't, Ollie, I always get it.
• 23:49
  I, I know.
• 23:50
  I always miss it.
• 23:51
  I miss it.
• 23:51
  Look, you got it right.
• 23:52
  I literally just, you got it right a couple years ago in
• 23:54
  that black Mercedes, whatever.
• 23:56
  Oh, the auto barn courier.
• 23:59
  Yeah.
• 23:59
  When that one couple years ago on that one you said, oh, that could be best in show.
• 24:02
  Like we arrived late to the tour that year and you saw it driving by
• 24:06
  and you were like, that could win.
• 24:07
  Yeah, we followed it on the roads around Pebble, didn't we?
• 24:10
  Yeah.
• 24:10
  This was a couple years ago.
• 24:11
  Yeah.
• 24:12
  We'll, we'll do a link to that car.
• 24:13
  It was a lovely car.
• 24:15
  Is there anything else we need to cover about the week?
• 24:18
  I, I just wanna say this little, this little fact here.
• 24:20
  Pebble Beach used to be a kind of elegant whatever.
• 24:25
  The point is that it used to be one thing and now it's turned into this
• 24:29
  thing where it's like bring your McLaren six 50 s, bring your Ferrari SF 90 and
• 24:35
  it's become less of a bring your Porsche Boxster and you see more super cars.
• 24:40
  Then you do classic cars.
• 24:42
  I mean, I know I've only been going for however many years, and my dad's
• 24:45
  been going for, for like four years, and my dad's been going for like
• 24:48
  the last probably 20 years now, 20.
• 24:51
  Gosh, I think he can, I think he can back me on this, that there's
• 24:55
  less classic cars parked up and there's more super cars parked up.
• 24:58
  I don't know how, I think that's a, that is an interesting way of expressing
• 25:02
  how, how it's changed, I suppose.
• 25:03
  This is one thing that I've talked about in other post Pebble pods that
• 25:06
  I've done, where I've talked about how I feel like now there are many, many
• 25:10
  people who come to Pebble and who don't go to any of the same events that I do.
• 25:15
  Or that we do, they don't go to the star of the tour.
• 25:17
  They don't go to, they don't go to the main event.
• 25:20
  They definitely don't go to same.
• 25:20
  And they don't go to any of the auctions.
• 25:22
  They don't do any of the, most of the people at the track, the Ferrari hat.
• 25:25
  He was at the track for qualifying practice race one and race two.
• 25:29
  He was there for all four days.
• 25:30
  He was there for the Monterey Historics at Laguna Se and WeatherTech race wide.
• 25:34
  He wasn't there for Pebble Beach.
• 25:36
  Concourse de Yeah.
• 25:39
  And link to that.
• 25:41
  And we're gonna end on this note, Ollie, I cannot believe.
• 25:44
  We didn't mention the bedazzled Aston Martin Valkyrie that we stuff on the park.
• 25:49
  Oh yeah.
• 25:50
  So we went out to dinner to the Rio Grill.
• 25:53
  I stuffed my face with ribs and as we came out into the parking
• 25:56
  lot to hop into our $26,000 Toyota Tundra, $20,000 Toyota Tundra.
• 26:03
  We Konig Seg Rera, or I don't, I don't know.
• 26:08
  These supercar, there were three Konig Segs.
• 26:11
  Current.
• 26:11
  Just parked up, just parked like in Car Valley, just parked up in
• 26:14
  front of, in front of a Starbucks, in front of a Safeway in Car Valley.
• 26:17
  Next to that, there was a Aston Martin Valkyrie, which had, you
• 26:23
  must know those like sticker jewels.
• 26:25
  Cupboard in those.
• 26:27
  Yeah, I, I overheard the lady who had done it was just like parked up
• 26:31
  next to these outside of Starbucks.
• 26:33
  Um, so some whipper snapper, some lady, some lady teenage photographer
• 26:37
  guy was telling me that the guy that owned the Valkyrie is an influencer.
• 26:41
  Yeah.
• 26:42
  Everybody's like recording, like I'm standing next here to about $6 million
• 26:47
  worth of coning eggs and this bedazzled Valery and it's just like, shut up.
• 26:52
  But it was quite cool Sam witnessing that.
• 26:54
  It was cool.
• 26:55
  And I overheard this lady talking about, and she was like, this is my third car.
• 26:59
  I'm like, that she bedazzled the third car you've ruined
• 27:02
  it, added 15 pounds to the car.
• 27:05
  I heard.
• 27:05
  So, um, I was chatting to that teenage photographer Instagram type,
• 27:10
  um, and he was, uh, he was telling me that that Burgundy Kerig s that
• 27:15
  was the rera, the R two were left.
• 27:17
  Yeah, apparently he reckons that was the actual car.
• 27:20
  That set the production car record at 277 miles an hour.
• 27:25
  No.
• 27:25
  He, all he knows is, was the one a burgundy rera Did that.
• 27:29
  All right.
• 27:29
  That's all he knows.
• 27:31
  Well, about how many burgundy RAs are there?
• 27:33
  Well, every rera that's sold is either in like gray, like that
• 27:39
  carbon fibery look or burgundy.
• 27:41
  Oh, but burgundy's a common color for regret for kerig.
• 27:45
  Seg Re, is it?
• 27:47
  Yeah.
• 27:48
  Good Lord.
• 27:50
  On that note, thank you for your time and thoughts, Ollie.
• 27:54
  Yeah, thank you for bringing me on here.
• 27:57
  Thank you.
• 27:57
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