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Will Lamar Jackson ever win a SB? NFL & CFB Playoff Reactions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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Speaker 2: ninety four of the so called sports analysts. Josh, how
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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right, man, stay up till three o'clock
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Speaker 1: in the morning, playing some two K made a new build. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's just where I'm at right now. My energy is low.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to sleep after we do this.
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Speaker 1: It's cold, as I don't it's cold. It's cold, and now,
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Speaker 1: yeah it's really cold. But you know, other than that,
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Speaker 1: I've been pretty good. Arrowhead Invitational is once again in effect.
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Speaker 1: The season starts now. Our preseason is finally over. So
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Speaker 1: all the games that matter start today start start this
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Speaker 2: But let's go ahead and get this thing started. So
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Speaker 2: a bunch of big games happened. Obviously NFL, we'll talk
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Speaker 2: about that in a second. But the College Football Championship
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Speaker 2: between Ohio State and Notre Dame and Ohio State they
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Speaker 2: won thirty four to twenty three and one more quick
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Speaker 2: stat so whenever the first four team playoff opened up,
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Speaker 2: Ohio State won that championship, and the first twelve team playoff,
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Speaker 2: Ohio State won that championship as well. So I guess
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Speaker 2: history kind of does repeat itself. But what did you
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Speaker 2: take away from this game?
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Speaker 1: I think for a lot of I think, putting my
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Speaker 1: bias aside, I feel like this would have been the outcome.
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Speaker 1: I was just for sure pushing the Notre Dame agenda
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Speaker 1: and I'll do it to the day I die. But honestly,
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Speaker 1: there's just too many weapons on the side for Ohio
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Speaker 1: State no matter how you look at it. I think
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Speaker 1: having to especially a team like Notre Dame, who's I mean,
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Speaker 1: they played a good competition, but not to the level
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Speaker 1: of an Ohio State game in and game out, and
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Speaker 1: then they don't just they just don't have the players
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Speaker 1: on offense. I mean, their defense is a very good
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Speaker 1: defensive football team in this in this game alone, though
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Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't look the part for the majority
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Speaker 1: of it until really the second half, and we'll get
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Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in a minute, the second half
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Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. But for the most part, it was
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Speaker 1: just too much to do with. Jeremiah Smith had four
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Speaker 1: receptions in the first half, he only had one in
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Speaker 1: the second and make a Buka had six receptions. Quinchawn
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Speaker 1: Judkins had a crazy day. Let's just say he had to.
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Speaker 1: He had that one big run he ripped off I believe,
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Speaker 1: to open up the second half, and then he had
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Speaker 1: he had a red zone touchdown in the first half.
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Speaker 1: In the receiving touchdown off of a scramble out by
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Speaker 1: Will Howard. So this is Ohio State team. They came ready,
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Speaker 1: they have their weapons to get the job done. Notre Dame.
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Speaker 1: They really we talked about it. They really had They
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Speaker 1: really had to put up points. They had to be
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Speaker 1: played basically perfect football on offense, and that just didn't
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Speaker 1: happen til the second half, and it was just too little,
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Speaker 1: too late. And yeah, the Ohio State, Ohio State buck
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Speaker 1: Geys ended up winning this national championship this season.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just one more thing as far as like
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Speaker 2: with the Ohio State roster, So they spent twenty million
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Speaker 2: dollars just to keep their players back. They didn't necessarily
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Speaker 2: spend other than Will Howard. They kept everybody, but just
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Speaker 2: collectively and then Will Howard, it costs twenty million dollars
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Speaker 2: and you see the investment obviously payoff. And let's let's
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Speaker 2: be real here. As much as we wanted, we're Notre
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Speaker 2: Dame fanatics, they they realistically had no shot here, like
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Speaker 2: you were saying, unless they played perfect football. And I
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Speaker 2: just think that when Nordre Dame responded the very first driver,
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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, maybe this could be a game. They
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Speaker 2: took off eight nine minutes of the clock, scored a touchdown,
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Speaker 2: but Ohio State they responded right back, they were ready,
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Speaker 2: And just another thing, Ryan Day, he finally broke through.
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Speaker 2: He finally There's some coaches that they're not good until
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Speaker 2: they finally get over that one hump right there. And
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Speaker 2: now he just is that now and his resume speaks
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Speaker 2: for itself. They've been top ten, damn near every year,
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Speaker 2: top five almost every year, and now he has a
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Speaker 2: national championship under his belt. And just like you were saying,
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Speaker 2: as far as with the second half, Notre Dame, they
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Speaker 2: did that against Penn State and not necessarily Georgia, but
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Speaker 2: in some of their other games too when it was
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Speaker 2: top ranked teams. You can't do that against Ohio State,
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Speaker 2: not on this level. Right here and two hundred and
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Speaker 2: fourteen rushing yards on the ground, I'm sorry, you're not
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Speaker 2: gonna win that ballgame.
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Speaker 1: You're not.
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Speaker 2: And Will Howard to fifty three, Yeah, compared to fifty three,
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Speaker 2: that was another thing I didn't expect right there. I
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Speaker 2: don't know how you felt to about.
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Speaker 1: It, well, Jeremiah Love. They said he tweaked his acl
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Speaker 1: or something like that going into the cut. That he's
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Speaker 1: been dealing with it over the last couple of weeks,
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Speaker 1: but he's been able to play. But this week he
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Speaker 1: just couldn't give it a go, Like he had the
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Speaker 1: four rushes in the first like dry, the first couple
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Speaker 1: of drives in there, like yeah, I can't go bro.
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Speaker 1: So I think that had a lot to do with it.
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Speaker 1: You're start running back her run game's gone after that,
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Speaker 1: and Ronny Leonard and Jadarian Prince just isn't Jeremiah Love
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Speaker 1: and then body Leonard's rod Linard can only do so
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Speaker 1: much out of the quarterback position of rush rushing the football.
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Speaker 1: But I think what did help dam in the second
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Speaker 1: half is they got really aggressive, Like I mean, you
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Speaker 1: have to maybe if they started doing that early on,
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Speaker 1: where they started attacking Ohio States defense a lot more
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Speaker 1: than playing conservative, smart football, maybe this game would have
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Speaker 1: looked a little bit more different.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you. And like you were saying,
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Speaker 2: one more thing is that, well Howard, he played damn
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Speaker 2: near perfect football.
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Speaker 1: Hey, Jaden Greathouse is a dog.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jayden doesn't. Isn't he a sophomore right he still
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Speaker 2: has two years of eligibility. Let me see, Yeah, he's
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Speaker 2: a sophomore. Yeah, that dude, whenever he comes out in
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Speaker 2: the draft, he's gonna be a dog. No, but well, Howard,
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Speaker 2: he just played great, great football. And all right, quick,
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Speaker 2: just quick, quick prediction. I know we know nothing about
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Speaker 2: the college football landscape, but early prediction for next year.
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Speaker 2: Who's gonna be in the championship game?
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Texas Tech Notre Dame. All right, I'm just kidding.
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Speaker 1: Give me wait, actually, Cliff, that just in case, like,
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Speaker 1: give me Texas Tech versus Notre Dame in the National
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Speaker 1: Championship next year? Book it the Red Raiders win their
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Speaker 1: first one, all right?
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Speaker 2: Like tis Yeah, yeah, that was that was a good
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Speaker 2: That was a good little ten seconds right there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think as far as like the national championship standpoint,
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Speaker 1: I think Ohio State they're probably gonna lose too much
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Speaker 1: after this season, I don't. I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: players are gonna enter the draft. So Jack, what's his
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Speaker 1: first name, Jack Sawyer? Yeah, yeah, Jack Sawyer, He's for
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Speaker 1: sure entering the draft after this season. He was, and uh,
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Speaker 1: I'm Trevion Henderson's entering the draft for this season. I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure Judkins is gonna consider entering the d after
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Speaker 1: this season, meta book is gone for sure. He waited
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Speaker 1: a whole other season just to come back and play
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Speaker 1: for this football team. So yeah, he's gonna go. He
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Speaker 1: would have been a first round pick last year, so
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Speaker 1: he's for sure gonna go go this year early on.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs, they have those
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Speaker 2: guys come back a.
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Speaker 1: Lot of their guys. So I'm not gonna go for
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Speaker 1: the state right now, but I think maybe next season.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, bro.
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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, it's definitely is tough there. Well, there's one
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Speaker 2: team that's obviously there that I'm pretty sure you don't
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Speaker 2: want to say. There's one Texas, Texas with arch.
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Speaker 1: Mannon boys that boys are college football.
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Speaker 2: Brother, Hey, we will never make were we wouldn't even
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Speaker 2: get to the second the last game. We wouldn't get to,
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Speaker 2: No conference championship game. No, But obviously there's Notre Damn.
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Speaker 2: I think they'll be good next year. There's gonna be
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Penn State, Ohio State, the Longhorns, pretty much
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Speaker 2: the teams in the top four, they're they're pretty much
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Speaker 2: gonna be there for sure.
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Speaker 1: I really don't know who to pick, Like, I don't
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Speaker 1: I'm not leaning favoring any team, to be honest right now,
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Speaker 1: of who I think.
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Speaker 2: Is yeah, there's not no for sure team. It's like,
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, no, they're they're gonna be back here the
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Speaker 2: following year. Well, Texas, I'll say that Texas. That's the
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Speaker 2: only team that I'm confident in.
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Speaker 1: But all right, yeah, yeah, all right, for sure the
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Speaker 1: best built.
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Speaker 2: It's time to talk NFL playoff football and we're gonna start.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna start in reverse order. We'll talk about the
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Speaker 2: Chiefs last, because that was a Saturday game. We're gonna
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Speaker 2: talk about this game that had big potential MVP implications
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Speaker 2: right here, and I'm talking about Lamar Jackson versus Josh
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Speaker 2: Allen with the Ravens versus the Buffalo Bills, and the
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Speaker 2: Bills they won twenty seven to twenty five and go
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Speaker 2: on to the conference championship. And I'm also one more
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Speaker 2: quick sat Lamar Jackson is only five in the playoff
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Speaker 2: with his opponent scores more than fourteen points. So what
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Speaker 2: did you take away from this game?
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Speaker 1: Right here? I think this was not just a Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen not a good game. Not just a good game
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Speaker 1: by Josh Allen. I mean he got his you know,
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Speaker 1: rushing the football two touchdowns within the red zone. He
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Speaker 1: passed the ball without making too many mistakes. It was
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Speaker 1: the weather, you didn't want to pass the ball too much.
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Speaker 1: And uh so the Buffalo Bills just favored the run
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Speaker 1: game heavily. They ran the ball thirty six times in
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Speaker 1: this game. They just really slowed down the clock. They
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Speaker 1: didn't really give the Ravens an opportunity. But also what
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Speaker 1: this defense was able to do against the Baltimore Ravens offense, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they I'm not going to say that they shut down
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Speaker 1: this run game completely, but they definitely like halted it
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Speaker 1: a little bit to where it was just a little
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Speaker 1: too late for the Ravens to kind of make a
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Speaker 1: couple moves. Yeah, because when you go up what twenty
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Speaker 1: one to ten, Yeah, yeah, that's that's a lot of
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Speaker 1: room to make up. And the Bills and just scored
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Speaker 1: two field goals in the second half, but that was
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Speaker 1: just that's just a lot of points for the Ravens
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Speaker 1: to make up right there. And they put the Buffalo
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Speaker 1: Bills entirely, entire team as a whole, really put themselves
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Speaker 1: in good position to secure the win. Lamar Jackson didn't
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Speaker 1: look too hot. In the first half, it was. It
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Speaker 1: was pretty much a struggle fest, especially the ugly interception
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Speaker 1: that he had. I believe he overthrew who he overthrew,
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Speaker 1: but the safety and the safety ended up picking it
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Speaker 1: off for the Buffalo Bills, and that kind of ruined
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Speaker 1: A lot of them mentioned that that maybe the Ravens
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Speaker 1: could have built up and put the Bills back into
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Speaker 1: their into what they were doing and what they wanted
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Speaker 1: to do. Isaiah likely he had a big day. Mark Andrews,
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Speaker 1: he had a rough day. Let's just say Mark Andrews
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Speaker 1: had a fumble that was really costly in the second half,
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Speaker 1: and then also that big drop on on that two
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Speaker 1: point conversion that could have changed a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, So I really don't know if
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Speaker 1: it would have done a lot because you give Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen a minute thirty seconds to go down the field
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Speaker 1: and get a field goal. Yeah yeah, and three timeout,
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Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure that changes the landscape. The
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Speaker 1: entirety of the game still gives the Bills an opportunity,
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Speaker 1: but hey, you still give yourself a chance if you
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Speaker 1: catch that ball and score a couple more points. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews probably had probably one of the worst. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he didn't have a bad day statisically, if you're not
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Speaker 1: looking at fumble and you're not looking at drops, but
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Speaker 1: that that has to be one of the up there
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Speaker 1: for worst games of Mark Andrews' career.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure, it definitely is one of his
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Speaker 2: worst games. But there's a kind of a different tange
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Speaker 2: I want to get to. I was talking to you
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Speaker 2: yesterday whenever I was getting my haircut. I just think
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Speaker 2: that whenever the Ravens they're in big games like against
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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, whenever they're against the Bengals, or whenever
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Speaker 2: they're against the Chiefs, they try to showcase Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 2: like they want him to go throw for throw with
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Speaker 2: the other quarterback instead of sticking with their strength. It's
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Speaker 2: not a coincidence. In the second half, when they started
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Speaker 2: running the football, that's when they started to score points.
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Speaker 2: They started to move the ball down the field. And
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Speaker 2: also one more thing, as far as I know, we
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Speaker 2: don't necessarily talk about as far as other shows or
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Speaker 2: like the media, ESPN stuff like that, but people they
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Speaker 2: keep saying this is not Lamar Jackson's fault and he
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Speaker 2: did everything he could to win the second half, Yes
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Speaker 2: he did, but it takes four quarters worth of football
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Speaker 2: and sometimes if you don't turn over the football like
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen did, you're gonna win the game. So Lamar
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Speaker 2: Jackson he deserves every bit of blame because if it's
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Speaker 2: some other quarterbacks, it's if it's Justin Herbert, Jordan Love,
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, if it's Dak Prescott, if it's those guys
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Speaker 2: right Josh Allen too. If it's those guys right there,
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Speaker 2: they're gonna get scrutinized heavily. And since it's Lamar Jackson,
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Speaker 2: he's not gonna get scrutinized for it. So I'm not sure.
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Speaker 2: If it's supposedly this three time MVP, which it looks
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Speaker 2: like he's gonna be the favorite, then he should be
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Speaker 2: able to play a clean game of football. He should
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Speaker 2: be able to and just I think they just need
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Speaker 2: to stick to the run. You have Derek Henry and
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. Also, one more thing, Lamar Jackson, he didn't
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Speaker 2: use his legs to the second half either, so so
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Speaker 2: it just made no sense to me as far as.
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Speaker 1: When they started actually playing Ravens football, they were playing
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Speaker 1: catch up at that point, so it becomes tough to
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Speaker 1: continue to play slow football get back into the game.
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Speaker 1: I mean they did kind of.
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Speaker 2: But it was kind of like an arms reach pretty much.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they had that one drive in the third
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Speaker 1: in the third quarter, I believe where Derrick Henry touched
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Speaker 1: the ball four times out of the five or like,
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Speaker 1: he touched the ball at least like ninety percent of
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Speaker 1: that drive and they went down and scored a touchdown.
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Speaker 1: He had a big run. I believe he had his
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Speaker 1: seventeen year old on that drive and then he ended
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Speaker 1: up scoring the touchdown. And if you continue to do
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Speaker 1: that almost through the entirety of the game, what did
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Speaker 1: you have last game? What twenty six carries maybe something
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Speaker 1: like that. That's ten less carries in this game. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you go, you bring Derrick Henry there for a reason
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Speaker 1: to add another threat in that battle. Even just as
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Speaker 1: he'll had he had got some pretty good fish, a
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Speaker 1: good efficient game. The run game was clicking, but they
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Speaker 1: waited too long to get their run game going.
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Speaker 2: And one more thing, as far as like I think
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Speaker 2: how they're using I don't know necessarily if it's going
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Speaker 2: to work next week against the Chiefs. But what I
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Speaker 2: noticed what the Bills they are doing. They're saying, all right,
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, just be the facilitator. I'm not calling him
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Speaker 2: a game manager by any means, but be a game
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Speaker 2: manager in this game. And we have enough talent around
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Speaker 2: to win this game. Don't make that dumb mistake, you
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Speaker 2: know what I mean? And I've or we even said
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Speaker 2: this before. Whoever doesn't turn over the ball is gonna
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Speaker 2: end up winning this game because it comes down to
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Speaker 2: the margins. And like I was telling you, all the
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Speaker 2: teams that won in the divisional round had zero turnovers.
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Speaker 2: The teams that lost had ten turnovers. Maybe a favorite
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Speaker 2: one team aka the Lions a lot, but still it's
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Speaker 2: turnovers they kill you. You only have so many possessions
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and I just think the Ravens they
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Speaker 2: blew their chances. I know there's a coaching mismatch as
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Speaker 2: far well, I can't even say that they I think
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Speaker 2: Sean McDermott and John Harball they're kind of on the
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Speaker 2: same level in my opinion. But as far as like
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Speaker 2: how the game actually went, it looked like a coach
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Speaker 2: he mismatched in all honesty, but Okay, one last question
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Speaker 2: about this game. What does this playoff game say about
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Speaker 2: the Lamar Jackson playoff narratives here?
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Speaker 1: I think it answers the questions entirely. I think we
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Speaker 1: see a guy who's very talented. He can do all
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Speaker 1: things on the football field. Lamar Jackson is a very
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Speaker 1: is a great quarterback in the NFL. He's one of
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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks of all time. But there's certain guys
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Speaker 1: that are meant to win and certain guys that never
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Speaker 1: will win. And I think Lamar Jackson's right now in
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Speaker 1: that category of he'll never win. I think he's a
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Speaker 1: regular season quarterback at this point in his career, and
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Speaker 1: no one can argue with me otherwise, because what has
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Speaker 1: he done in the postseason to make you feel like
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Speaker 1: he's a postseason quarterback? What does he only have? He
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Speaker 1: only has like one playoff win in his entire career,
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Speaker 1: one or two playoff wins in his entire football three yeah, three?
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Speaker 1: Uh well, Holmes got his three Super Bowl MVPs. I'm
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Speaker 1: just saying, but Lamar Jackson, you have to be able
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Speaker 1: to win these big games. You have to put yourself
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Speaker 1: in the position where you're undeniably have that moment where
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Speaker 1: people were like, that's the day that Lamar Jackson solidified
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Speaker 1: himself as arguably the top quarterback in the NFL, solidified
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Speaker 1: him as as the second best quarterback in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: But there's gonna can continue to be these narratives where
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's still right there where, Joe Burrow, if he
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Speaker 1: gets back into it's going to be right there where
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Speaker 1: no matter how many MVPs Lamar Jackson wins because he
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Speaker 1: can't get it done in the playoffs. Now, until he
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Speaker 1: gets it done in the playoffs, then I don't care
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Speaker 1: how many MVPs you win. I don't care what stats
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Speaker 1: you put up. You're just not a winner. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So I think as of right now, he's like a
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Speaker 2: Peyton Manning esque quarterback. Still could be one of the greatest,
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Speaker 2: but still.
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Speaker 1: But at this point Manning had a ring, you know,
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Speaker 1: like from A ninety nine in his first six seasons.
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Speaker 1: He ended up winning a ring in two thousand and five.
16:55
Speaker 2: That is very true. And I'm looking at Lamar Jackson's
16:58
Speaker 2: playoff wins, sir. It's first which one was against Ryan
17:01
Speaker 2: Tannehill Tennessee in the wild card round. Then CJ. Stroud CJ.
17:04
Speaker 2: Stroud last year in the Divisional and then the wild
17:07
Speaker 2: card this year against Russell Wilson. So I'm just leaving
17:10
Speaker 2: it at that. That's all I want to say. I'm
17:13
Speaker 2: not trying to bring up nothing else, but yeah, no,
17:14
Speaker 2: it's something that Lamar Jackson he's gonna have. There's nothing
17:18
Speaker 2: he could do in the regular season from this point
17:20
Speaker 2: forward where it's gonna be like, Okay, Lamar Jackson, he's
17:23
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the NFL. Even if Mahomes, Joe Burrow,
17:27
Speaker 2: Josh Allen have worse years, they're gonna still say he's
17:30
Speaker 2: better because he's been in the playoffs and proved it,
17:33
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. But let's go ahead and get
17:36
Speaker 2: onto this next game right here, the other game that
17:38
Speaker 2: happened on Sunday, which I'm talking about the Philadelphia Eagles
17:41
Speaker 2: versus the LA Rams right here, and the Eagles they
17:45
Speaker 2: won twenty eight to twenty two. The Rams they had
17:47
Speaker 2: a last second drive where they could potentially win the game.
17:50
Speaker 2: Eagles they stopped him. And also, one more quick stat
17:53
Speaker 2: right here, Jalen Hurts and his four playoff wins, he
17:57
Speaker 2: averages one hundred and thirty four passing yards. So I'm
18:00
Speaker 2: just leaving at that. But what did you take away
18:03
Speaker 2: from this game right here? I don't know is your
18:05
Speaker 2: mic working, Josh?
18:07
Speaker 1: Can you repeat that last statement you make because of
18:11
Speaker 1: my mike disconnect?
18:12
Speaker 2: No, you're good. No, I was just asking you what
18:14
Speaker 2: did you take away from this Eagles and Rams game
18:16
Speaker 2: right here?
18:17
Speaker 1: Oh? But what was the stat you said?
18:18
Speaker 2: Oh, Jalen Hurts he averages one hundred and thirty four
18:21
Speaker 2: passing yards in this four playoff wins.
18:25
Speaker 1: I think this was a tell of playing, of a
18:29
Speaker 1: home field advantage, of a really looking at the entirety
18:31
Speaker 1: of the game, I mean, you play the game to
18:33
Speaker 1: get to put yourself in your own stadium and your
18:36
Speaker 1: own element, in your own environment, in that favorite of the
18:38
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, when one hundred percent in this game, when
18:41
Speaker 1: it comes to playing in the snow, when it comes
18:42
Speaker 1: to playing in the cold, when you're from LA and
18:45
Speaker 1: you're playing a dome in LA, which doesn't make a
18:48
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Yeah, you you kind of set yourself
18:53
Speaker 1: up for these type of games. And I'm not saying
18:54
Speaker 1: that the Rams played bad by any means, because if
18:56
Speaker 1: you really look at that, look at the game as
18:58
Speaker 1: a whole, the Rams are offense played great, the Rams
19:01
Speaker 1: defense played great stopping the pass at least, But on
19:06
Speaker 1: this I think the story for the Philadelphia Eagles is
19:10
Speaker 1: two guys, Sakwon Barkley and Jalen Carter. I think those
19:14
Speaker 1: guys definitely solidified this game for the Philadelphia Eagles. Sakwon Barkley,
19:19
Speaker 1: I mean, we're watching history at this point. He's close
19:22
Speaker 1: to passing Terrell Davis for all time season plus postseason
19:26
Speaker 1: rushing yards in one year. And Sakwon Barkley twenty six carries,
19:30
Speaker 1: two hundred and five yards, two touchdowns, four receptions twenty
19:33
Speaker 1: seven yards. You don't need anyone else if that guy's
19:36
Speaker 1: putting out those type of numbers. If we're being completely honest,
19:38
Speaker 1: there's a reason why I feel like, you know, MVP
19:42
Speaker 1: maybe can maybe looked at a little bit different because
19:46
Speaker 1: Sakuon Barkley definitely is the best fotball player on the
19:48
Speaker 1: field every time he's playing this season, and there's there's
19:50
Speaker 1: no there's no question about it. And even on this
19:53
Speaker 1: defensive side, Jalen Carter, what he was able to do
19:55
Speaker 1: in this game, forced fumble on Kyram Williams when it
19:57
Speaker 1: mattered most in the third quarter, third or fourth third,
20:02
Speaker 1: early four Yeah, oh, I think it was early fourth quarter.
20:07
Speaker 1: I think I want to say it was like the
20:08
Speaker 1: first game. First first play of the first fourth quarter,
20:12
Speaker 1: he was able to force Kien Williams to fumble. He
20:14
Speaker 1: created I believe, like five pressures eight five or five pressures. Yeah.
20:20
Speaker 1: On Matthew Stafford, yeah, he just had a hell of
20:23
Speaker 1: a game, especially along with the two sacks. He he
20:27
Speaker 1: really showed up for this defense, set the tone. Even
20:29
Speaker 1: though On Smith Junior in this game really got going.
20:31
Speaker 1: He was pressuring Matthew Stafford a lot. He even got
20:34
Speaker 1: a sack in his own right. I believe that this
20:36
Speaker 1: team they have a they can play with anybody in
20:39
Speaker 1: the NFL. They have the talent to compete with anybody
20:42
Speaker 1: in NFL, and they're definitely ready for this next game
20:45
Speaker 1: versus the command that's gonna be a fun one versus
20:47
Speaker 1: the Commanders. But as far as the Rams side, turnovers,
20:52
Speaker 1: I mean, turnovers really is what hurts this team and
20:55
Speaker 1: drops the drops. I understand, you're not used to playing
20:58
Speaker 1: in the snow. You're not used to these type of
21:00
Speaker 1: elements you used here and yeah, no, no, nothing nothing.
21:05
Speaker 1: The weather is going to decide when you play indoors
21:08
Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles Rams. But still you got to
21:10
Speaker 1: make some catches. You gotta you gotta be able to
21:12
Speaker 1: bring some some some of those in that that are
21:15
Speaker 1: hitting you directly in the hands. I believe Tyler Higby
21:17
Speaker 1: dropped a big first down. I want to say, yeah,
21:22
Speaker 1: dropped a couple. Marcus Robinson a lot of his were
21:25
Speaker 1: kind of hard throws to catch, but still they hit
21:28
Speaker 1: you in the hands. Man, you gotta bring bring, bring
21:30
Speaker 1: them in. Karen Williams had a good game from that
21:33
Speaker 1: from the from the full perspective of it, but that fumble,
21:35
Speaker 1: it hurts. It hurt that team quite a bit because
21:37
Speaker 1: that's when I feel like they were starting to get
21:39
Speaker 1: momentum going and then Jalen Carter just knocks it out.
21:42
Speaker 1: And then even the next drive, literally the next drive
21:45
Speaker 1: they get I think I think the Rams end up
21:46
Speaker 1: getting the ball back. I think they ended up getting
21:48
Speaker 1: the ball back, and then Matthew Stafford from helped them
21:51
Speaker 1: to a field goal. Then Matthew Stafford gets the ball
21:54
Speaker 1: back and he fumbles. So it's this team, as as
21:57
Speaker 1: much as they look good on paper, especially Nakua six
22:00
Speaker 1: ninety seven, Matthew Stepford three twenty four to two touchdowns,
22:03
Speaker 1: their turnovers when it came to fumbling and the drops
22:06
Speaker 1: really hurt this team completely in this comeback.
22:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, no it it definitely hurt them right there. And
22:11
Speaker 2: I think even whenever they had that chance late to
22:15
Speaker 2: win the game after that. Also another thing, penalties, penalties
22:19
Speaker 2: killed them. I don't know who number sixty nine is
22:21
Speaker 2: that right guards Okay Dotson, who whoever he is? Right there?
22:29
Speaker 1: Dude in the final drive, bro, like what are you doing? Okay?
22:32
Speaker 2: And then one more thing this is like as far
22:35
Speaker 2: as like just little things, like little details in between
22:38
Speaker 2: the game, like where it's like they matter a lot,
22:40
Speaker 2: but it doesn't look like it. Whenever he got that
22:42
Speaker 2: false start, not only does it bring you back five
22:44
Speaker 2: yards where ends up being second and fifteen something like that.
22:48
Speaker 2: So you're behind the sticks, but you let the defensive
22:51
Speaker 2: line catch catch their.
22:52
Speaker 1: Breath and then and they made us up.
22:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, and make us up. And you let Jalen Carter
22:58
Speaker 2: catch his breath and he ended up getting a sack there.
23:00
Speaker 2: If you don't do that, then I'm pretty sure he
23:02
Speaker 2: doesn't have the energy to go make a sack, you
23:05
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So and They even showed if
23:09
Speaker 2: Jalen Carter doesn't sack him, there's a wide open touchdown
23:11
Speaker 2: because somebody was guarding Higbee and he just completely fell
23:15
Speaker 2: obviously because the environment. But like you were saying, I
23:18
Speaker 2: feel like you're hitting every point here as far as
23:21
Speaker 2: this is the reason why you win games in the
23:22
Speaker 2: regular season, so you could play at play home field advantage.
23:27
Speaker 2: And the Eagles there use to this weather, not necessarily
23:29
Speaker 2: that they've played in snow games, but this offensive line,
23:32
Speaker 2: this defensive line right here, they're two of the best
23:35
Speaker 2: units in the NFL. And with Saquon Barkley there, Honestly,
23:40
Speaker 2: it's like you're saying, it's just there's nothing that you
23:45
Speaker 2: could do to stop him from getting that big play.
23:47
Speaker 2: I feel like any team that he plays, he always
23:49
Speaker 2: gets one big play in the game, and it's just
23:51
Speaker 2: game changing every single time. It's game changing. And I'll
23:55
Speaker 2: say this, if Jalen hurts, yes, I know I read
23:58
Speaker 2: that stat as far as one hundred and thirty four
24:00
Speaker 2: yards and his four playoff wins. But if you could
24:02
Speaker 2: continue to do this, I know there was some fumbles
24:05
Speaker 2: in there, but if you could play clean football kind
24:07
Speaker 2: of like what what Josh Allen did just played clean football.
24:11
Speaker 2: Then you're gonna give yourself more than a chance to
24:13
Speaker 2: win because this defense is more than talented enough, these
24:16
Speaker 2: weapons are more than talented enough, and I think you
24:19
Speaker 2: could overcome some coaching struggles. As far as Kellen Moore
24:23
Speaker 2: and how he calls some players, I don't honestly some
24:26
Speaker 2: of his play calls who are a little bit questionable there.
24:28
Speaker 1: And that's.
24:31
Speaker 2: No, I do not wish that into existence. No, do
24:33
Speaker 2: not wish that. Do not wish that. I don't want
24:36
Speaker 2: no parts with that guy. I think, honestly, I think
24:39
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore is great. He should stay with the Eagles.
24:41
Speaker 2: I think he's that good. He should stay with the Eagles.
24:43
Speaker 2: That's how I feel. Yeah, No, I if we get
24:48
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, if we get Kellen Moore.
24:52
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, bro cowboy.
24:56
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know who're probably gonna end
24:58
Speaker 2: up getting him. No, but yeah, yeah, I just think that.
25:01
Speaker 2: I just think that if Jalen hurts, he could stay
25:03
Speaker 2: out the way of this Eagles team, they could definitely
25:06
Speaker 2: win the super Bowl. Here and we're not talking predictions here,
25:08
Speaker 2: but there are two games away from winning the Super
25:11
Speaker 2: Bowl and you can't tell me Saquon Barkley cannot have
25:14
Speaker 2: two more great games because he more than he's more
25:17
Speaker 2: than capable enough to win those games right there. But
25:20
Speaker 2: all right, let's go in and get into this second
25:23
Speaker 2: to last game right here, in which it was Josh's
25:27
Speaker 2: beloved Detroit Lions who came off of a bye, refreshed,
25:32
Speaker 2: got some players back, David Montgomery back versus the red
25:35
Speaker 2: hot Washington Commanders, in which the Commanders upset the Lions
25:39
Speaker 2: forty five to thirty one, featuring five turnovers in this game,
25:43
Speaker 2: and also one more thing that remains true which Josh
25:47
Speaker 2: should have known not to go against, and that is
25:49
Speaker 2: the Brian Robinson stat He got more than twelve touches
25:55
Speaker 2: and they end up winning the game, which means they've
25:57
Speaker 2: only lost one game all year where he's got over
25:59
Speaker 2: twelve touches. So, Josh, would you take away from this game?
26:04
Speaker 1: Well? I took away is that Brian Robinson is a dog.
26:07
Speaker 1: Fifteen carrie seventy seven yards and two touchdowns with that
26:10
Speaker 1: with his second touchdown coming on the twelfth touch of
26:13
Speaker 1: the game. To to solidify things, he I just need
26:17
Speaker 1: when he scored the first touchdown, this game, wasn't gonna go,
26:20
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go the Lion's way. Let's just be honest.
26:22
Speaker 1: It's just history, it's just stats, it's just statistics. Y'all
26:25
Speaker 1: can y'all can hate on Brian Robinson, but the Commanders
26:29
Speaker 1: don't lose. Let's just say that Jaden Daniels Man, this
26:35
Speaker 1: is a guy. We gotta start talking about generational type
26:39
Speaker 1: of rookies, guys that came in. And I'm not saying
26:42
Speaker 1: he's gonna change the game, because we already have Lamar Jackson.
26:45
Speaker 1: But I am saying that he's gonna What he's doing
26:49
Speaker 1: is definitely changing a lot of I think heads turning
26:52
Speaker 1: a lot of heads when it comes to rookie quarterbacks,
26:55
Speaker 1: not only because he's playing great, but I think him
26:59
Speaker 1: the way that he waited a long time in college
27:01
Speaker 1: to come out. I think him being experienced already and
27:05
Speaker 1: playing significant football for the LSU for LSU and being
27:09
Speaker 1: able to come into the NFL and immediately transition. He
27:13
Speaker 1: was fully developed to play already for the Washington Commanders,
27:17
Speaker 1: so there was no growing pains. They could literally just
27:19
Speaker 1: throw him out there, and they did, and he was
27:21
Speaker 1: He's able to do these things for thirty one two
27:23
Speaker 1: nine nine two touchdowns and then rushing the ball sixteen
27:26
Speaker 1: for fifty one. This is this is him at his peak,
27:29
Speaker 1: I think, not him and his peak. This is him
27:31
Speaker 1: is what we've been able to see him do all season,
27:34
Speaker 1: and he's able to get other guys involved. He's definitely
27:37
Speaker 1: has scary terry feel in some type of way. For
27:39
Speaker 1: steps seven yards and a touchdown. Danmi Brown after kind
27:44
Speaker 1: of being non existent for almost all season, but these
27:48
Speaker 1: last two playoff games, he's definitely stepped up and became
27:51
Speaker 1: a whole different person. I believe last game he had
27:54
Speaker 1: like five for like eighty five in a touchdowns or something,
27:57
Speaker 1: and this week six for ninety eight. He's definitely stepping
28:00
Speaker 1: up for this football team. Even Austin Eckler stepping up
28:02
Speaker 1: for this football team when it comes bay off time.
28:04
Speaker 1: He was kind of non existent almost the entirety of
28:07
Speaker 1: the of the season. Six carries, forty seven yards for
28:10
Speaker 1: four receptions and forty one yards. He's kind of doing
28:13
Speaker 1: what he used to do in Los Angeles, but not
28:15
Speaker 1: to like the high level that he was doing, but
28:17
Speaker 1: definitely to a to a mediated second role as a
28:20
Speaker 1: running back, and it's helping this Commanders team out quite
28:22
Speaker 1: a bit. But the Lions. The Lions one of the
28:28
Speaker 1: what we thought was gonna be what I thought definitely
28:32
Speaker 1: was gonna be the season that they get over that
28:33
Speaker 1: home where they make the make the Super Bowl loose
28:36
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. I really I thought that this was
28:38
Speaker 1: going to be their season to do that. But when
28:41
Speaker 1: you have three turnovers by your quarterback, it's not going
28:44
Speaker 1: to help this team out, especially a couple of bad ones,
28:46
Speaker 1: especially the under thrown balls at Jamison and Williams in
28:48
Speaker 1: the end zone. I'm trying to remember a couple he threw,
28:53
Speaker 1: the pick six he threw in this game. These are
28:56
Speaker 1: just mistakes you can't make, as Jared Goff, especially experience
29:00
Speaker 1: quarterback like Jared Goff, who's been in the playoffs before,
29:02
Speaker 1: who's played significant football in the playoffs before, who's been
29:05
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl, who's been to a conference championship,
29:09
Speaker 1: you can't make these type of mistakes. I do think
29:12
Speaker 1: that they should have ran the ball maybe a little
29:13
Speaker 1: bit more. I think, especially at the beginning of the game,
29:16
Speaker 1: instead of trying to really go band for band because
29:19
Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs was getting anything he wanted. Let's just say that. Yeah,
29:24
Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs was not getting stopped at this football game.
29:26
Speaker 1: You got to keep feeding your backs. And I think
29:29
Speaker 1: they waited too long to get David Montgomery involved it
29:30
Speaker 1: were being completely honest. I understand he's coming back from injury,
29:33
Speaker 1: but he only came back to play in the playoffs.
29:36
Speaker 1: So let's just say give him the football. And because
29:39
Speaker 1: we saw a couple of angry runs that he had
29:41
Speaker 1: in that second half where he was actually starting to
29:43
Speaker 1: get a couple a lot of yards, basically almost getting
29:46
Speaker 1: five yards per carry. Ever, being completely honest, this run
29:49
Speaker 1: game should have been the key factor for the Detroit Lions,
29:52
Speaker 1: and like it's been all season, but they wanted to
29:55
Speaker 1: throw the ball forty times and at less to three
29:57
Speaker 1: mistakes that costed this team. And raw, I mean really
30:01
Speaker 1: everyone played great except for Jared Goffer.
30:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the defense, and the.
30:05
Speaker 1: Defense really had no opportunity. You're playing in bad and
30:08
Speaker 1: bad field position. I mean there was a couple of
30:11
Speaker 1: plays where you mean the Commanders just took the top
30:13
Speaker 1: off or they just had some big runs. But as
30:17
Speaker 1: far as like the field position that they had, and
30:19
Speaker 1: then as far as just putt you're back against the wall.
30:22
Speaker 1: When you're down with a couple turnovers by the Lions,
30:25
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for you to do anything, especially
30:27
Speaker 1: them already being a depleted, depleted defense without their start,
30:31
Speaker 1: some of their star players. It hurts when when you
30:33
Speaker 1: had to play with your backs against the wall, especially
30:36
Speaker 1: versus the Commanders team who's basically at Washington Commanders right now.
30:41
Speaker 2: They're on fire right now. No, but okay, first I
30:45
Speaker 2: want to bring up, as far as Jayden Daniels, there's
30:46
Speaker 2: only been six quarterbacks that have been rookies and make
30:50
Speaker 2: the conference championship. The first one ninety nine s King
30:52
Speaker 2: oh four, Ben Roethlzigberger, oh wait, Joe Flacco, oh nine,
30:55
Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez, twenty twenty two brock perty and now twenty
30:59
Speaker 2: twenty four. And all I'm gonna say is that obviously
31:04
Speaker 2: the Sanchi shout out to the Sanchiz, No, but he's
31:07
Speaker 2: clearly I feel like he's right up there with Big
31:10
Speaker 2: Ben as far as one of the best rookie quarterbacks
31:12
Speaker 2: to come out. And I think when Big Ben he
31:15
Speaker 2: made the conference championship, it wasn't because of Big Ben.
31:18
Speaker 2: It was because that Steelers. It was because of the
31:20
Speaker 2: run game, and Jaden Daniels. Yeah, and Jayden Daniels. The
31:27
Speaker 2: reason why they're in this conference championship game is because
31:29
Speaker 2: of him. He's the reason they went on to beat
31:32
Speaker 2: the Bucks in or last week, and he's the reason
31:36
Speaker 2: they beat the number one seed in Detroit. So, Jayden Daniels,
31:40
Speaker 2: he's playing at a top five level right now. As
31:43
Speaker 2: of right now, I think that he's a better playoff
31:46
Speaker 2: performer than the likes of Lamar Jackson, a Dak Prescott,
31:50
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, Justin Herbert Kyler, Murray, all those guys who
31:54
Speaker 2: are maybe in the top ten. He's right there with them.
31:57
Speaker 2: And honestly, do you really want to talk He's up
32:01
Speaker 2: there with the likes as of right now. It's a
32:03
Speaker 2: short sample, it's a small sample size. He's up there
32:06
Speaker 2: as far as with Mahomes right now in the playoffs.
32:09
Speaker 2: And you know he is off of two games, short
32:13
Speaker 2: sample size, he's right there. He's right there with him.
32:16
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to admit it, but I.
32:18
Speaker 1: Can admit it because that's just crazy.
32:20
Speaker 2: I said, it's a small sample size off of two games.
32:23
Speaker 2: Off of two games, that's.
32:25
Speaker 1: All the guy that has sixteen playoff wins over the
32:28
Speaker 1: guy that just has to right now.
32:30
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Patrick Mahomes his first year, Look what, he
32:36
Speaker 2: made the conference championship his first year, same as Jaden Daniels.
32:39
Speaker 2: That's that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So
32:41
Speaker 2: he's on trajectory right now as far as with Patrick Mahomes, even.
32:46
Speaker 1: If it was winter Ring first, Winter Ring in the
32:49
Speaker 1: first two seasons first, and then we could start talking
32:51
Speaker 1: about a couple of things.
32:52
Speaker 2: Hey, that that's all. That's all I'm saying right there.
32:55
Speaker 2: But yeah, I know this is commander.
32:57
Speaker 1: Compared with Josh Allen. Right now, let's just compare with
32:59
Speaker 1: Josh Allen when.
33:01
Speaker 2: When Patrick Mahomes his first year, he made the conference championship,
33:05
Speaker 2: lost to the Patriots. Jayden Daniels his first year, Yeah,
33:09
Speaker 2: made the conference championship.
33:10
Speaker 1: You just got it. I want to see a year
33:12
Speaker 1: in the year out one one season, we're not making
33:14
Speaker 1: those type of we're not making those type of accusations
33:16
Speaker 1: and all the first time around, he's definitely up there
33:20
Speaker 1: with all the other guys for sure when it comes
33:22
Speaker 1: to playoffs. Let's just be honest.
33:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, he definitely is. And just
33:27
Speaker 2: as this.
33:28
Speaker 1: I'm not even being like a Chiefs fan right now.
33:31
Speaker 1: I'm just being like, all right, let's just give him
33:33
Speaker 1: a couple consistent years before we make that decision.
33:36
Speaker 2: Well, hey, it's just out it's just out there. The stats,
33:39
Speaker 2: the stats are there. But no, okay. As far as
33:42
Speaker 2: with the Commander's team, I just think they have all
33:44
Speaker 2: the momentum on their side and they have nothing to
33:47
Speaker 2: lose as of right now. In Cliff Kingsbury, he's dolling
33:50
Speaker 2: up perfect play call after perfect play call every single time,
33:53
Speaker 2: and Jayden Daniels is making the perfect greed. And like
33:55
Speaker 2: you were saying, maybe it'll affect the college football lands
33:58
Speaker 2: gape as far as QUARTERB coming out early, maybe they're
34:02
Speaker 2: gonna say, okay, I'll go all four years. I get
34:04
Speaker 2: an nil deal.
34:05
Speaker 1: I can make some extra money on Nick Shadon Daniels. Yeah,
34:09
Speaker 1: I've had good seasons.
34:10
Speaker 2: That's very true. They both made the playoffs. So maybe
34:13
Speaker 2: maybe you're onto something there. But as far as this
34:15
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions team, obviously, the defense, I feel like the defense,
34:20
Speaker 2: it does get blame, even if they're banged up, for sure,
34:22
Speaker 2: because you showed something against the Vikings. Who I know
34:25
Speaker 2: the Vikings. They kind of fell off in the wild Card,
34:28
Speaker 2: but they were still one of the best teams up
34:30
Speaker 2: to that point right there, so they still deserve some blame,
34:34
Speaker 2: rightfully so. But Jared Goff, he is not the answer here, Josh,
34:38
Speaker 2: He's not. This is the most talented team he's gonna get,
34:40
Speaker 2: as far as coaching wise, as far as talent wise,
34:43
Speaker 2: this is the most talent he's gonna have on a team.
34:45
Speaker 2: If you couldn't do it with this team right here,
34:48
Speaker 2: if you couldn't do it with the Rams back in
34:50
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen something along those lines, he definitely can't do it.
34:54
Speaker 2: He cannot win a super Bowl. Jared Goff, He's not
34:56
Speaker 2: the answer. I think you need superstars to get over
34:59
Speaker 2: the especially with Jayden Daniels. He's in that conference now
35:03
Speaker 2: where it looks like he may be that number one
35:06
Speaker 2: guy in the conference. Kayleb Williams. They're still young guys.
35:09
Speaker 2: Then obviously you have like the guys who are in between,
35:11
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts, Jordan Love. You have those guys
35:15
Speaker 2: in the middle. Jared Goff, he's not the answer. He's
35:17
Speaker 2: gonna go into playoff games where he's clearly not the
35:20
Speaker 2: better quarterback. So how do you feel about that?
35:23
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but it's kind of the
35:25
Speaker 1: truth at this point. I mean, he had a great
35:27
Speaker 1: roster and Los Angeles couldn't get the job done. Has
35:30
Speaker 1: a great roster here in Detroit can't get the job done.
35:35
Speaker 1: I just think. And then Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson being
35:40
Speaker 1: one of the best offensive coordinators in the entire NFL,
35:43
Speaker 1: arguably a top three offensive coordinator in the NFL. You have,
35:47
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, you have a good defense. Also,
35:49
Speaker 1: the defense is able to do a couple of things.
35:52
Speaker 1: I mean, not like they were doing at the beginning
35:53
Speaker 1: of the season when they were fully healthy, but definitely
35:55
Speaker 1: still even when they were hurt, they were still able
35:58
Speaker 1: to continue to be six sccessful on there. And you're
36:01
Speaker 1: not gonna get a David Montgomery and Jamior gives backfield again.
36:04
Speaker 1: You're not gonna I mean you are obviously if you're
36:06
Speaker 1: gonna be the quarterback next season, like but like you're
36:10
Speaker 1: you're not gonna go to another team and be able
36:12
Speaker 1: to get alma uh, Sam Laporta, Jamison and Williams Jami
36:17
Speaker 1: or Gibbs a David Montgomery, even Tim Patrick were being
36:20
Speaker 1: completely honest line to you. Yeah, offensive line, like even
36:23
Speaker 1: the unders like Khalif Raymond, who just do their jobs.
36:26
Speaker 1: Tim Patrick, like, you're not gonna get a complete football
36:28
Speaker 1: team like you have and this was the year that
36:30
Speaker 1: you were supposed to do it. And I don't know,
36:33
Speaker 1: I don't know. Next season is gonna be a weird
36:36
Speaker 1: situation Without Ben Johnson, We're gonna see who he truly is.
36:39
Speaker 1: I think unless another offensive coordinator comes in, it really
36:42
Speaker 1: takes over. But right now, I think the Lions are
36:45
Speaker 1: questioning a lot of things with Jared Goff, And I
36:48
Speaker 1: mean Dan Campbell will never admit it, but yeah, let's
36:51
Speaker 1: just be honest. Let's just be honest. Yeah, for sure,
36:54
Speaker 1: when you when you need to be, when you need
36:56
Speaker 1: to be able to go play for play with the
37:00
Speaker 1: back that you may be better than at making decisions,
37:03
Speaker 1: you may be better than moving up and down the field,
37:07
Speaker 1: but we need to make a play and you need
37:09
Speaker 1: to play against someone that can make plays by himself.
37:12
Speaker 1: Jared Goff just can't do that. Jared Goff can't take
37:14
Speaker 1: over a game like a Jenden Daniels, like a Patrick Mahomes,
37:17
Speaker 1: like a Lamar Jackson, like a Josh Allen, even like
37:20
Speaker 1: a Dak Prescott, like a Joe Burrow. He just can't
37:22
Speaker 1: take over games like those guys. And I think that's
37:25
Speaker 1: where hurts the Lions at the end of the day.
37:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know for sure. And then one more quick thing,
37:29
Speaker 2: I want to say, You're not gonna find any coordinator
37:32
Speaker 2: who's gonna be one of the best scoring offenses the
37:35
Speaker 2: last three years like Ben Johnson was. Maybe he'll be
37:39
Speaker 2: like a little bit of a tier below, but he's
37:41
Speaker 2: not gonna be that good Ben Johnson. He's an experienced coordinator.
37:44
Speaker 2: He's been around the league. So you're gonna get a
37:46
Speaker 2: young coordinator unless you bring somebody else in, But I
37:49
Speaker 2: don't know who it would be. But anyways, let's going
37:52
Speaker 2: to get onto this last game right here, which it's
37:54
Speaker 2: Chiefs Football. Like you were saying, seven straight years of
37:58
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes making the AFC Championship.
38:00
Speaker 1: Game ever, know nothing else, And it's.
38:03
Speaker 2: Only one behind the dynasty New England Patriots, who have
38:07
Speaker 2: made the conference championship eighth straight times, So they're right
38:10
Speaker 2: there as far as with history. They need one more
38:12
Speaker 2: next year to tie. But Chiefs go on to win
38:15
Speaker 2: this game twenty three to fourteen. So first I want
38:17
Speaker 2: to ask you because I have to. I know we
38:19
Speaker 2: talked about it, But as far as those penalties, I'm
38:23
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. How do you feel about that? And then
38:26
Speaker 2: what'd you take away from the game?
38:27
Speaker 1: Here, win super Bowls, bring money to the league, You
38:31
Speaker 1: get those calls. That's all I gotta say. You can complain,
38:34
Speaker 1: you can do this, Tom Brady. Tom Brady got these calls.
38:37
Speaker 1: Even Peyton Manning got these calls when they were when
38:40
Speaker 1: they were quarterbacks in the NFL. Patrick Mahomes is in
38:43
Speaker 1: that level. Patrick Mahomes is higher than Peyton Manning. Let's
38:45
Speaker 1: just say that pay Manning is, yeah for his career
38:47
Speaker 1: than Peyton Manning. When you make the when you when
38:50
Speaker 1: you win money for when you get money for the league,
38:52
Speaker 1: when you win super Bowls, we need tolilify yourself as
38:55
Speaker 1: the best in the entire NFL. You get those calls
38:57
Speaker 1: because they're gonna protect you. Let's just be honest. That's
38:59
Speaker 1: just then of the game. That's just football. That's just
39:01
Speaker 1: how the NBA the exact same thing. It's it's every league.
39:05
Speaker 1: They protect their superstars and that's just what they do
39:08
Speaker 1: with the KENCA chiefs. I will say the first one,
39:10
Speaker 1: I can see why it's a penalty. I f like
39:13
Speaker 1: that was not that that serious to be arguing about.
39:15
Speaker 1: It looked like yeah, for sure, and they can't go
39:18
Speaker 1: review it like we can. The second one, he is
39:21
Speaker 1: a runner. I understand the play, I understand the hate
39:23
Speaker 1: on it. But do you think I gave a fuck? No,
39:26
Speaker 1: I don't care at all, So I don't care how
39:27
Speaker 1: we win. He can flop. I don't care. As long
39:29
Speaker 1: as we win the game. I do not care. I
39:31
Speaker 1: do not care what happens in that game, as long
39:33
Speaker 1: as we win another super Bowl. And right now where
39:37
Speaker 1: our preseason is finally over or are what is it?
39:42
Speaker 1: Nineteen game preseason is finally over? We are finally starting
39:45
Speaker 1: our season this week in the AFC Championship, the Arrowhead Invitational.
39:49
Speaker 1: I will say the offense looked a little rusty. They
39:53
Speaker 1: looked a little like the two weeks probably was a
39:55
Speaker 1: little too long for them to rest, except for one
39:58
Speaker 1: one man, and that was Travis Kelce.
40:00
Speaker 2: I mean I think he needed that rest.
40:02
Speaker 1: I think there's gotta be all time performers. There's gotta
40:07
Speaker 1: be guys that are just come up clutch in situations
40:10
Speaker 1: when it matters most, and Travis Kelsey has to be
40:12
Speaker 1: put in whatever list in the history of sports, he
40:15
Speaker 1: has to be put in that situation. And I think
40:18
Speaker 1: the stats back it up. He's top He's number one
40:20
Speaker 1: all time in playoff receptions, top two in receiving yards,
40:23
Speaker 1: top two and receiving touchdowns, and he's almost gonna be
40:27
Speaker 1: number one in every single one almost by the end
40:29
Speaker 1: of this playoffs. And the only guy ahead of him
40:31
Speaker 1: is Jerry Rice. And we're talking about Jerry Rice. So
40:34
Speaker 1: let's let's Travis Kelcey's definitely probably I think he needs
40:38
Speaker 1: three more touchdowns to pass him. I think he needs
40:44
Speaker 1: I think he like two hundred yards to pass, like
40:47
Speaker 1: a little less than two hundred yards to pass him,
40:50
Speaker 1: and receiving yards, so he's getting right there, and I
40:54
Speaker 1: think there has to be, uh, there has to be
40:57
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of arguments for him being
40:59
Speaker 1: one of them as clutch players of all time. But
41:03
Speaker 1: the rest of the team, I do think that rest
41:05
Speaker 1: probably did hurt them a little bit, and especially this
41:07
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think momentum is a big is a
41:10
Speaker 1: big swing, especially when you have to bench a couple guys.
41:12
Speaker 1: I think Joe Toney. He's a valiant effort again this week,
41:16
Speaker 1: but he's out of position. I think this week showed that,
41:19
Speaker 1: like he played great. Let's just say he did let
41:21
Speaker 1: up a couple pressures and a sack, but it wasn't
41:23
Speaker 1: nowhere near as bad as it was at the beginning
41:25
Speaker 1: of the season for the other left tackles that we
41:27
Speaker 1: had played. But you can tell, probably definitely that that
41:30
Speaker 1: rust ruining momentum for him, kind of still in the
41:34
Speaker 1: groove of playing left tackle, kind of left him a
41:36
Speaker 1: little bit in this game. I expect him, if he
41:38
Speaker 1: does play next week, to be at a playing a
41:41
Speaker 1: little bit more better, just because he has a he
41:44
Speaker 1: doesn't have as long to prepare for a week. But
41:47
Speaker 1: as far as the defensive side, I just gotta say,
41:51
Speaker 1: I love me some George carl Lafts football. I love
41:54
Speaker 1: me some George carl laft Is football. Eight pressures on
41:57
Speaker 1: one man is insane. Let's just say that, George, he
42:01
Speaker 1: was rattling C. J. Straut all game. But the three
42:03
Speaker 1: sacks to go along with it, I believe that this
42:05
Speaker 1: was probably the best performance by any player in the
42:07
Speaker 1: entire playoffs. George Carlafs has definitely had a career game
42:11
Speaker 1: against the Houston Texans. They just struggle a little bit
42:14
Speaker 1: to get pressure on CJ. Strout in that first half,
42:16
Speaker 1: But in that second half, Steve Spagnola reached deep into
42:20
Speaker 1: the bag of tricks and was like, you want you
42:21
Speaker 1: want to play me, you want to stop my guys.
42:24
Speaker 1: He's like, hold up, let me cook. Because he cooked.
42:28
Speaker 1: Let's just say that Trim mcduffy, best cornerback at the NFL.
42:31
Speaker 1: Argue with your mom one reception twenty four yards for
42:34
Speaker 1: Nico Collins, shut down a whole half of the field,
42:37
Speaker 1: allowed Nico Collins to be doubled pretty much the rest
42:39
Speaker 1: of the whole game by Jenleen Watson in another safety.
42:42
Speaker 1: He shut down every other every other guy on this team.
42:46
Speaker 1: This this defense stepped up. Charles the Menu had a
42:48
Speaker 1: big game, Chris Jones had a big game, Leo Chanel
42:50
Speaker 1: had a big game. I mean, the list goes on
42:52
Speaker 1: and on this defense, they've they've they've been this, they've
42:55
Speaker 1: done this over the last two to three seasons already
42:58
Speaker 1: where they've stepped especially the last two seas and they've
43:00
Speaker 1: been the best unit in the entire NFL. They're really
43:04
Speaker 1: playing out of their minds right now, and I think
43:06
Speaker 1: they're playing at the best momentum they possibly could have
43:09
Speaker 1: going into Buffalo, the one team that kind of did
43:11
Speaker 1: give them the most, that did give them the most
43:13
Speaker 1: trouble this season, especially with Josh Allen being able to
43:15
Speaker 1: run the football himself as but as his Texans side,
43:20
Speaker 1: I think we knew this was the recipe, you know,
43:22
Speaker 1: like we we called it out. This defense would have
43:24
Speaker 1: to play out of their minds. They tried, but Travis
43:28
Speaker 1: Kelsey had answers for that. CJ see this shout. I
43:31
Speaker 1: mean the yards looks good, but you get to the
43:35
Speaker 1: red zone, you don't finish the job. And you can't
43:37
Speaker 1: finish the job. Kyami Fairburn has to make points, has
43:40
Speaker 1: to score his points. That ruins a lot of momentum
43:42
Speaker 1: for your team. Nico Collins, he did the do you
43:46
Speaker 1: mean outside of when he wasn't being guarded by Trup McDuffie,
43:49
Speaker 1: he had he had an okay game. It just wasn't
43:53
Speaker 1: this was Everyone knew this was going to be the outcome.
43:55
Speaker 1: I mean, no matter what penalties, what penalties there were,
43:58
Speaker 1: this was always going to be the outcome for the
44:00
Speaker 1: Kansaity Chiefs.
44:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and okay, I found this. So Travis kelce
44:04
Speaker 2: he's played eight or more than seventeen playoff games, but
44:08
Speaker 2: he's played seventeen officially with Mahomes now in his stats
44:11
Speaker 2: right now, as far as if it's a full regular season,
44:13
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty three reception receptions one five hundred
44:17
Speaker 2: and sixteen yards and eighteen touchdowns, and he's two away
44:20
Speaker 2: from tying Jerry Rice as far as all time touchdowns,
44:24
Speaker 2: an he's second in yards like you were saying, So
44:26
Speaker 2: he's right there as far as greatest playoff performer. If not,
44:29
Speaker 2: you could argue him as one of the best. But
44:32
Speaker 2: as far as with these penalties, as far as if
44:34
Speaker 2: it really affected the game, it did not affect the
44:37
Speaker 2: game in all honesty because the Texans, they weren't efficient
44:41
Speaker 2: in the red zone. You couldn't stop the Kansas City
44:44
Speaker 2: Chiefs defensive line from getting pressure on CJ. Stroud let
44:47
Speaker 2: alone eight sacks, and you left, like I was saying
44:50
Speaker 2: about Travis kelcey one of the greatest playoff performers wide
44:54
Speaker 2: open numerous of times. And even if they found a
44:58
Speaker 2: way to tie this game, I trust Patrick Mahomes. In
45:01
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, Travis.
45:03
Speaker 1: Kelce wasn't two years ago, Travis Kelcey. Let's just say
45:06
Speaker 1: that this game would have looked a little differently.
45:09
Speaker 2: If he could unhook that trailer right there, he would
45:12
Speaker 2: have had his long as touchdown. What was it, fifty
45:14
Speaker 2: yard fifty.
45:16
Speaker 1: Fifty it would have been fifty nine yards because he
45:18
Speaker 1: got stuff at the one like or at the two
45:20
Speaker 1: yard line. It would have been like, what sixty one
45:22
Speaker 1: yards sixty yards.
45:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. And I just think that as
45:27
Speaker 2: far as if Travis kelce or or I don't know
45:30
Speaker 2: why I'm saying, Travis Kelcey, if the Texans, even if
45:33
Speaker 2: they played a perfect game right here, because you have
45:35
Speaker 2: to play a perfect game against the Chiefs in all honesty,
45:38
Speaker 2: especially at Arrowhead, even if they did, I really think
45:40
Speaker 2: they had no shot of winning this game right here.
45:43
Speaker 2: And the Chiefs offensive did look rusty. And I think
45:47
Speaker 2: that's a mixture of being off three weeks. I think
45:50
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are used to having two weeks off, but
45:53
Speaker 2: usually or I don't know, do they usually wrest their
45:55
Speaker 2: guys the last week of the season.
45:58
Speaker 1: Last year they didn't because it came down to much
46:00
Speaker 1: the last week, the last game of the year, and
46:03
Speaker 1: then last year they didn't. They had to play, you know,
46:05
Speaker 1: they they had to play I think because for a
46:09
Speaker 1: playoff seating. I think because they didn't even didn't have
46:12
Speaker 1: the first seed, they ended up getting the second seed
46:15
Speaker 1: and then they usually do. But still, like you you
46:19
Speaker 1: rest two weeks, especially like with Hollywood who barely came back,
46:23
Speaker 1: and then you have d Hop who's don't. I just
46:27
Speaker 1: feel like this was just a weird week, especially like
46:29
Speaker 1: the pressures that the offensive line was under. I mean,
46:33
Speaker 1: obviously the interior doesn't really deal with that. It's the tackles,
46:36
Speaker 1: and it was the tackles, so it's like and and
46:39
Speaker 1: and also the run game kind of staggered a little
46:41
Speaker 1: bit when Joe Toni's not inside compared to outside. So
46:44
Speaker 1: when he's inside, this running game is clipped. Well, it
46:46
Speaker 1: is a lot better. I mean, right now, you gotta
46:48
Speaker 1: you gotta pick which with side do you want to?
46:51
Speaker 1: You want to protect the side? Do you want to? Really? Yeah,
46:54
Speaker 1: so right now I think they're still trying to. I
46:57
Speaker 1: think I think they they was just a little bit
46:59
Speaker 1: of out of play for the Kennessey Chiefs.
47:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was wondering that because three I understand
47:06
Speaker 2: two weeks worth the rest, but damn near three weeks
47:09
Speaker 2: worth the rest as far as with Week eighteen and
47:11
Speaker 2: then the wild card and then the Fathers are going
47:14
Speaker 2: up to the game. Yeah, so it's just three weeks.
47:17
Speaker 2: I definitely expect the Chiefs offense to look a lot
47:19
Speaker 2: better than what they were, and they still were good enough.
47:22
Speaker 2: And that's the thing about the Chiefs. You have to
47:25
Speaker 2: play a perfect game against the Chiefs, and the Chiefs
47:28
Speaker 2: they could be stagnant on offense, they can have some
47:30
Speaker 2: turnovers and they're still gonna have the benefit of the
47:32
Speaker 2: doubt because all his team is experienced. They've been there,
47:35
Speaker 2: they know how to win. They know when there's marquee
47:38
Speaker 2: situations as far as certain red zone stops or if
47:42
Speaker 2: they need to cash on the red zone, yeah, field
47:44
Speaker 2: goal blocks. They just know what they have to do.
47:47
Speaker 2: They just know what they have to do and they
47:48
Speaker 2: just play their job. And it's just Patrick Mahomes seven
47:52
Speaker 2: straight champion or seven straight conference championship games. It's damn
47:56
Speaker 2: near history right there. He's two away from breaking Tom
47:59
Speaker 2: Brady's And there's a reason why. Now you just talk
48:02
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, there's a reason for that now,
48:05
Speaker 2: and I think that's pretty much everything here. Josh. So,
48:09
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have anything else to take
48:10
Speaker 2: away from this game before we do MVP.
48:13
Speaker 1: No, I just think I just wonder where the Texans
48:16
Speaker 1: are gonna go. I mean, Tank Dale's gonna miss the
48:18
Speaker 1: entirety of next season for Surefree agent. Yeah, I don't
48:23
Speaker 1: know how what Joe Mixon's contract was. I can't remember
48:27
Speaker 1: exactly what it was, but yeah, they definitely have a
48:30
Speaker 1: couple of spots to fill. I mean Robert Woods, I
48:32
Speaker 1: think this may be his last year. Don't quote me,
48:34
Speaker 1: I think it may be. I mean the defense is
48:37
Speaker 1: still young, but as far as this offensive side, I
48:40
Speaker 1: wonder where where they're completely going with decisions. Yeah.
48:44
Speaker 2: Well, one thing I'll say is that if you want
48:47
Speaker 2: to be able to play at home, you need to
48:49
Speaker 2: be able to win some regular season games. You can't
48:51
Speaker 2: lose to the Jets, you can't lose to the Titans.
48:54
Speaker 2: You'd have up to twelve wins right there, so maybe
48:56
Speaker 2: you'd be playing somebody else. And one thing, CJ. Stroud,
48:59
Speaker 2: he definite needs to have a better year. I know
49:02
Speaker 2: in the playoffs he looked better than what he did
49:03
Speaker 2: in the regular season, but it's all about how your
49:06
Speaker 2: sample size looks throughout the season. It kind of gives
49:09
Speaker 2: you a telltale sign how good you're gonna do in
49:12
Speaker 2: the postseason. And if c J. Stroud he could get
49:15
Speaker 2: back to normal, get away from that sophomore slump. I
49:17
Speaker 2: still believe in Damiico Ryans, Bobby Slovak, He's definitely gonna
49:21
Speaker 2: be there. He cost himself a head coaching job because
49:23
Speaker 2: it was an alright year. But all right, Josh, we
49:27
Speaker 2: do him every single week. The so called MVP. The
49:30
Speaker 2: so called MVP is somebody who stands out from the
49:33
Speaker 2: entire week. So, Josh, who's your so called MVP here?
49:36
Speaker 1: I mean, we know my answer. Yes, George cart Laft.
49:39
Speaker 1: It's fury as George. It's the Greek freak, It's the
49:42
Speaker 1: Greek God. It's it's George carl Lafts. It's the water
49:45
Speaker 1: polo Greek national national player. It's a it's it's George
49:50
Speaker 1: carl Laft, his first round pick from Purdue. Two time
49:52
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion George carl laftis it's oh, I'm gonna
49:57
Speaker 1: say a two time Super Bowl champion, George. He's never
50:00
Speaker 1: not won Super Bowl in his entire career actually, so
50:04
Speaker 1: all he knows how to do is win. All he
50:06
Speaker 1: knows how to do is win and get the job
50:08
Speaker 1: done in the playoffs. So, George Carlaftis is my so
50:11
Speaker 1: called MVP of the week.
50:13
Speaker 2: So my so called MVP of the week, it's obviously
50:16
Speaker 2: going to go to to Saquon Barkley here had thirty
50:20
Speaker 2: thirty touches, two hundred and thirty two yards and two
50:22
Speaker 2: big touchdowns and just broke away this game for the Rams,
50:26
Speaker 2: and clearly one of the best players in the league.
50:29
Speaker 2: And every time he steps onto the field, he's easily
50:32
Speaker 2: the best player. He's up there with Patrick Mahomes, He's
50:35
Speaker 2: up there with Josh Allen. He's up there with those guys,
50:37
Speaker 2: and he's and he's a running back. He's a running
50:40
Speaker 2: backs or running backs nowadays they are not looked at
50:42
Speaker 2: as the same. And he's making impacts just as much
50:44
Speaker 2: as quarterbacks. But all right, Josh, any last words?
50:49
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about Ben Johnson? Really quick? Oh?
50:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely forgot about that. So this happened yesterday.
50:55
Speaker 2: I think it was around like two o'clock something like that.
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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, he went to the chicag Go Bears, and
51:01
Speaker 2: it's not official yet, but they're pretty much finalizing the deal,
51:03
Speaker 2: so it's there. Caleb Williams, he kind of struggled this year.
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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson one of the best offensive coordinators, been one
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Speaker 2: of the marquee prospects for the last two years. So
51:13
Speaker 2: how do you feel about that?
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Speaker 1: I kind of feel excited for KAILEB. Williams, to be honest,
51:19
Speaker 1: getting a type of offensive coordinator, that offensive mind that
51:22
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is. I think Keen Allen's probably gonna come
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Speaker 1: back after this. He said he's only gonna play for
51:27
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Bears. I'm pretty sure he's gonna
51:30
Speaker 1: come back to the Bears now. Romo Dunza, DJ Moore.
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Speaker 1: I definitely think they like the move. Cole kamed even.
51:36
Speaker 1: I just think they have they have the offensive weapons.
51:38
Speaker 1: I think the run game. They may make another move
51:41
Speaker 1: to bring in another guy offensive line. I can definitely
51:43
Speaker 1: see Ben Johnson day revamping immedia that whole offensive line
51:48
Speaker 1: to get to get Killer Williams protected. He's gonna bring
51:51
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen as defensive coordinator and like we say, some
51:53
Speaker 1: guys which is better as coordinators And when I think
51:55
Speaker 1: that's what Dennis Allen may be. He he may just
51:58
Speaker 1: be a better defensive coordinator than he has had, And
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Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a good move for
52:01
Speaker 1: them to have that type of experience, especially to the
52:04
Speaker 1: good defenses that New Orleans consistently had had through the
52:08
Speaker 1: entirety of his tenure there. So right now, it looks
52:10
Speaker 1: like the Bears are moving on the right track. And
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Speaker 1: I think Ben Johnson definitely is going to have this
52:14
Speaker 1: team in a whole different, whole different attitude, a whole different,
52:17
Speaker 1: whole different style of play, and it's really going to
52:19
Speaker 1: benefit who they have right now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ben Johnson even last year, well there was
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Speaker 2: even report saying Ben Johnson he wanted to go to
52:26
Speaker 2: the Bears the entire time, and he was waiting on
52:28
Speaker 2: that job to open up since last year and he
52:30
Speaker 2: just he waited all those all those reports they were true.
52:34
Speaker 2: And one more thing I think that is crazy is
52:36
Speaker 2: that he went in division against Dan Campbell. And I
52:39
Speaker 2: think that's more of like, I know I'm a better
52:41
Speaker 2: coach than you, and I'm about to prove that I'm
52:43
Speaker 2: a better coach than you in this division. I don't
52:46
Speaker 2: care if this is a younger team. We might might
52:48
Speaker 2: not have as much talent, but we have more upside
52:51
Speaker 2: as far as quarterback wise. And one more thing as
52:54
Speaker 2: far as with Ben Johnson, his his whole thing is
52:58
Speaker 2: as far as as far as with Jared Off, it
53:00
Speaker 2: may be something completely different with Jared Goff. It's one
53:03
Speaker 2: two three throw and that's definitely gonna help with the
53:06
Speaker 2: offensive line, even if he doesn't revamp it. It's gonna
53:09
Speaker 2: be something where he gets the ball out quick. And
53:11
Speaker 2: we already know how innovative Ben Johnson he is, and
53:14
Speaker 2: it's just finally they bring in an offensive mind. I
53:18
Speaker 2: know they brought in Matt Naggy, I know they brought
53:20
Speaker 2: him in, But as far as Matt Naggy, he wasn't
53:23
Speaker 2: this in my opinion, I don't know. I know he
53:25
Speaker 2: was on the Chiefs, but even at that he wasn't
53:28
Speaker 2: even the coordinator. It was Eric b Enemy. He he
53:32
Speaker 2: wasn't as hot of a name or as far as
53:34
Speaker 2: flashy name innovatives he was.
53:37
Speaker 1: There was Dougie p and then it was Naggy, and
53:39
Speaker 1: then and then it was and then it was being.
53:41
Speaker 2: Oh and then but the enemy was after Okay, Well yeah,
53:45
Speaker 2: well all I'm.
53:45
Speaker 1: Saying is out of here and bringing Dougie p back. Brothers.
53:49
Speaker 2: Hey, that's that's a possibility. That's a possibility. I didn't
53:52
Speaker 2: even think about that right there. No, but yeah, no,
53:55
Speaker 2: this is definitely gonna be good. And as far as
53:56
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams DJ Moore Dynasty, it's fixed would be over
54:00
Speaker 2: for you, guys, Damian, Ryan Marcos, just Hetoren, im doing
54:08
Speaker 2: and Keenan Allen and my dad. All I'm saying is
54:10
Speaker 2: that it's up Caleb Williams. The hype train is back.
54:13
Speaker 2: You thought Caleb Williams was done. You thought this Caleb
54:17
Speaker 2: Williams bandwagon I was off.
54:19
Speaker 1: With this bandwagony. We're not talking about last year. You're
54:25
Speaker 1: talking about last twenty four. This guy last place.
54:28
Speaker 2: Guys, Josh is talking about all this stuff from the past.
54:32
Speaker 2: He's not worried about the future. He's not worried about
54:35
Speaker 2: right now.
54:36
Speaker 1: He's not worried about who your favorit football team is. Bro.
54:40
Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, again, you're worried about the past right now.
54:42
Speaker 2: You're not worried about right now. You're not worried about
54:46
Speaker 2: right now. All I know is that Kobe White's a go.
54:48
Speaker 2: All I know is that Caleb Williams. He's fixing to
54:51
Speaker 2: be back have one of the greatest sophomore seasons. Forget
54:54
Speaker 2: no sophomore slump. He's fixing to be I don't have
54:58
Speaker 2: nothing around with sophomore so so no, I don't know.
55:01
Speaker 2: But he's definitely gonna have a better year and just
55:04
Speaker 2: look out the rest of the league. Cantibay is gonna
55:06
Speaker 2: be there. Yeah, yeah, they'll say that crazy. But all right, Josh,
55:12
Speaker 2: any last words before we get out of here.
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Speaker 1: Good night.
55:16
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're going back to bed, but all right, well,
55:19
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55:25
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